Cold Steel Voyagers: L vs XL, Drop Point vs Clip

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  • Опубликовано: 16 дек 2024

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  • @JamesThomas-gg6il
    @JamesThomas-gg6il 10 месяцев назад +10

    Oh now we are talking my language. Been a cold steel fan since the early 80s. I don't have every model but I've got a bunch. I love Lynn Thompson's ideas of HUGE blades and ultra strong locks. When the voyager series first came out , I saw them at a gun show and before I left swore I'd get a clip point XL. I did but the only one he had left was clip point with partial serrated blade. I got it any way, and have carried everyday since. Easily over ten years. Use it at work for opening pallets of paper and boxes, removing nails, digging splinters out of my careless hands. I've actually grown to like the serrated part because if a box on a shelf has a strap around it still, I can just slide it under until a tooth hooks and yank, works great. I can't wait to see what else you have of CS lines. Great as always Mike.

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks! Taking count, looks like I've got about 18 of these to do. And climbing...

    • @ronmax6220
      @ronmax6220 2 месяца назад

      Hi, do you think the Clip point large voyager is slightly lighter in the blade and faster in the hand when moving in a Martial Arts way than the Drop point voyager large ?

  • @shaunblevins3303
    @shaunblevins3303 10 месяцев назад +9

    Michael I stumbled on to your Channel by accident and let me tell ya, I’m glad I did. Out of all the RUclips Reviewers you are the Most In-depth Reviewer I Found. I’m a Huge Cold Steel Fan, I’ve Been Collecting and Using Cold Steel Since 1997. I’ve had Close to 60 CS knives over the Years and out of all the Knives I had, the Voyagers are on Top. I’ve had every Blade Shape in the Voyager line and I’ve had the 3” Mediums, 4” Large and the 5.5” XL. Out of the Entire Voyager Line the 5.5” XL Drop Point is my Favorite. It Doesn’t matter what situation arises and or where I’m at the Drop Point will do the Job Perfectly and I don’t have to worry about Breaking my Tip. Sorry for the Super Long Comment. You Gained a New Subscriber.

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  10 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks! I've been a fan of the drop points for a long time. I appreciate how this one has some belly in an almost leaf-shaped blade.

  • @jorgefernandez6407
    @jorgefernandez6407 10 месяцев назад +4

    I can SO relate to your "madness" here Michael! Tri-ad locking Cold Steel folders... Voyagers, LG & XL's, Counter points, Holdouts, Talwars, Espada's, even the Ti-Lites (you get where I'm going) and so on, are my favorite EDC folders to carry, and I have a "few" folders! Mike, I can safely say that I am going to enjoy this series just as much, if not MORE (?) than your GREAT large fixed blade series that you did last year!!! I haven't left my house without a Cold Steel XL folder in my pocket for the past 2 & 1/2 years (when I discovered Cold Steel!)! EXCELLENT video here to start and very much looking forward to the rest!!!

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks, my friend! I've got a Counterpoint XL and a Ti-Lite on my wish list. I keep adding to the collection as I'm catching up making these reviews.

  • @billclancy4913
    @billclancy4913 3 месяца назад +3

    I have one of the older 6" 2 XL Voyagers, which I carried while deployed in Afghanistan, along with a Raja2. Big folders rock.

  • @rcjoe406
    @rcjoe406 3 месяца назад +1

    Great info I can tell you put a lot of thought and time into this 👍

  • @minnesota-hk1vp
    @minnesota-hk1vp 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank You for sharing! I'm sold

  • @Ianwatchesyoutube
    @Ianwatchesyoutube 27 дней назад +1

    Fantastic video thanks for posting!

  • @masonmcelroy8125
    @masonmcelroy8125 10 месяцев назад +4

    I found your channel about 2 months ago and have watched a lot of your back catalog. REALLY looking forward to this new series. I have several Cold Steel XL knives and I like them quite a lot.

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks! I have a pretty big list to cover.

  • @Fishbag61
    @Fishbag61 2 месяца назад +1

    Great vid! Glad to see someone highlighting these classics...I love the Voyager line...I have every current model. The xl drop point has been my historical favorite, but the xl tanto sure is a force to be reckoned with....esp with the serrations, and man, are those Vaqueros growing on me! 😊
    I haven't been into knives very long...2 years, in fact, but I'm a huge Cold Steel fan...I just keep trying out new ones...
    I haven't counted lately, but a few months back, I was already well north of a hundred of them. I'll let you know if I start to get disappointed with them...meanwhile, keep making great content!😊

  • @mazyarkanani6708
    @mazyarkanani6708 10 месяцев назад +2

    Very Nice Michael !! ❤

  • @the_Ghost_Uchiha99
    @the_Ghost_Uchiha99 10 месяцев назад +3

    I had 3 now 2 bc I gave the tanto plain edge away as a B-day gift now slowly getting the recon 1 series nice video Mike.

  • @JoeSteel1
    @JoeSteel1 10 месяцев назад +3

    Great compare & contrast, i have the voyager XL drop point, its a great folding Camp knife, great edge retention on Aus 10a

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  10 месяцев назад +2

      Harder, more durable and better edge retention than expected.

  • @omarceriani
    @omarceriani 10 месяцев назад +4

    Very Nice! I love CS and the Voyagers... I have two Vaqueros, plain and serrated, and both cut exceptionally well! Just he point is a little thin... Thanks to the serrated voyager I started to think that probably a serrated blade could be better for daily cutting task... Unfortunately CS don't make the four inches serrated, a better size for carry... Next in my list is the four inches drop, it is a beautiful blade!

  • @JonasNorw
    @JonasNorw 5 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent video. Like listening to a good prof at university.

  • @bobgartin4165
    @bobgartin4165 10 месяцев назад +2

    Enjoyed your review. Just found your channel and subscribed today.

  • @cwsmith17
    @cwsmith17 9 месяцев назад +2

    The Voyager clip point has been an excellent EDC

  • @saltyguerrilla
    @saltyguerrilla 10 месяцев назад +2

    I carry an XL serrated Tanto daily. I would be lost without it. This year I’m going to pick up the Xl Vaquero serrated, and the XL Talwar serrated. After Watching Lynn and JoeX demonstrate the abilities of these Voyager XL’s you’d be hard pressed to find better.
    I’m really looking forward to this series of reviews from you. Happy new year!

  • @theweaponscollectiveedge863
    @theweaponscollectiveedge863 10 месяцев назад +2

    very sturdy knives, and I like both sizes. The XL would be a bit large for carrying in the pocket for long treks in the woods, but it works well as a camp knife. Looking forward to seeing more in your series of big martial folders.

    • @shaunblevins3303
      @shaunblevins3303 10 месяцев назад +1

      To be Completely Honest with ya, you don’t even realize that you are Carrying an XL Voyager. I’ve carried, Walked and Hiked Miles up and down Hills and in the Woods with my XL Voyagers and barely felt any Difference btw them and a Smaller knife. My New EDC Blade is a XL Drop Point Voyager. My XL will be the only Folder I will Carry and use.

  • @richardskinner4198
    @richardskinner4198 10 месяцев назад +2

    A great video as ever ,full of all the information anyone could need I love it . I do have voyager blades but they are over 15 plus years old and while they are still as functional as they were when they were new especially one called the X2 Voyager as it was then ,these new handle designs are much more grippy and more suited to self defence as well as utility purposes than the ones I have so it looks like I will be getting some more .Keep up the great work I am looking forward to your take on the Vaquero I had one of those too with the serrated edge but never really had a use for it though it is ideal for self defence woe betide you if you ever got found with one over here in the UK ..😀

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  10 месяцев назад

      I saw Matt Easton lamenting new potential sword restrictions. When he starts thinking about leaving the UK, you know it's bad.

  • @RandomName48
    @RandomName48 10 месяцев назад +2

    My most carried knives are the large Voyager and the Recon 1, both clip points. They're very similar, though I use the Voyager more as a working knife. The Voyagers definitely need sanding on the handle scales, but once that's done they're great. The Recon 1 is good to go out of the box and overall feels more refined.
    I think I need to get one of those XL drop point Voyagers.

  • @Kyle-bb9zp
    @Kyle-bb9zp 9 месяцев назад +2

    Yes sand them down on hoth sides with 80 grit be a lot more comfortable

  • @John..18
    @John..18 10 месяцев назад +2

    I used to have the large clip point, and the extra large tanto,, both were great, but the XL tanto was like a mini katana in your pocket,, 🤣🤣
    I had to get rid of them, for "reasons",,
    Boy, do I wish I still had the XL Tanto,, 🗡️🗡️,,

  • @bladetheatrics
    @bladetheatrics 10 месяцев назад +1

    There are aftermarket wave option that fits on the thumbstud

  • @Observer413
    @Observer413 7 месяцев назад +1

    You can make 'emerson' style opener with 2 small zipties on the thumbstuds, connected with one thick ziptie above the blade spine. Its a little bit finicky process of tighting them down slowly step by step, since you have to keep pressure on small ones until its all rigid so they dont slip off thumbstuds, while letting them move a bit around so you can keep them positioned properly, but its well worth it.
    (yes, i know about snaggletooth)

  • @DanielSmit-m4n
    @DanielSmit-m4n 2 месяца назад +1

    You can make your own snaggletooth for very little money. Buy electric ring terminals. Unscrew the thumb stud and screw it back in through the ring of the electric ring terminal with the shaft of the terminal pointed towards the tip of the blade. Paint it black for esthetics. If you buy good quality terminals, it should last. Make sure to screw thebthumb stud back very securely and add locktite. You will need the correct size, but they are so cheap, just buy a bunch of sizes.

  • @rtz549
    @rtz549 10 месяцев назад +3

    Add a Counter Point to the collection.

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  10 месяцев назад +1

      Considering one. I have an old mini version.

    • @omarceriani
      @omarceriani 10 месяцев назад +2

      The CP XL is one of the best CS!

  • @4449John
    @4449John 10 месяцев назад +2

    Been waiting for this series, funny, never got a notice on this video, but I did for the newer vid you released this date. Laws where I dwell sound the same as yours, folders are okay, fixed has to be open carry, length issues vary from city to city. Have you looked into the blade openers made by SnaggleTooth Tactical; I am in love with them for the most part. I have them on my SR-1LITE and 4 MAX Scout. Any other CS's have the Demko type "wave" openers from the factory; I'm a fan of the Spartan's for EDC. I do have my eyes on a Voyager VaqueroXL, just for the fun of it, but that trigger seems to be locked in the safe position. You may change this with this series, only time will tell. Carry On Sir.

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks! Spartan is on the list. I think I'll have to look into some Snaggletooths.

    • @4449John
      @4449John 10 месяцев назад

      @@michaelrizzo5523 The "TOOTH" works very well, in fact after seeing the new Vaquero video, I think I may get one and add the 'tooth', it draws very well that way, or so my other CS's tell me. I found a guy on ETSY, actually 2, that make titanium deep carry pocket clips for a few Cold Steel's, adding those in black, and a tightly tied snake knot lanyard makes drawing the big knives a snap.

  • @peterchristiansen9695
    @peterchristiansen9695 10 месяцев назад +2

    Curves in the bellies and the unflattering waistlines - it’s a strong kickoff for 2024, Mike! 👍🏻☺️
    With the overall aesthetics of this particular type of folder, I personally lean towards the clip point version; but the basic design seems really well thought out and executed.
    One question, considering that extra reach (and thus effective distance) of the XLs: Are there less tears involved when chopping onions?! 😁

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  10 месяцев назад +1

      I'm still thinking of doing that "Food Prep with Big Tactical Knives" series.

  • @josephfarrugia2350
    @josephfarrugia2350 2 месяца назад +1

    May I ask for help:
    what do you guys prefer about clip vs drop (or tanto) point?
    I still can’t decide whether it’s Recon 1/Voyager in tanto or spear/clip;
    for everyday use.

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  2 месяца назад +1

      With the Voyagers the full flat grind on the Clip makes for a slicier edge geometry. Otherwise it's whether you want a more robust (drop) or more acute (clip) point.

  • @TheMotoCat1k
    @TheMotoCat1k 3 месяца назад +1

    Hey Michael, which tip is stronger in your opinion between the xl voyager clip point and the large espada? Which one do you trust more in a martial situation? Thanks!

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  3 месяца назад +1

      The tip of the Espada is more acute but has more steel behind it. The Voyager, while broader in tip, thins out a lot. I do prefer the Espada martially. Somewhat better penetration, more belly, more mass, more "hook back" in the clip point. I'd say the Voyager is lighter carry and a little better at utility cutting. Hmmm... I may need to compare these side-by-side.

    • @TheMotoCat1k
      @TheMotoCat1k 3 месяца назад +1

      @@michaelrizzo5523 That would be cool! I'm loving the content, I'm a Cold Steel fan boy. Thanks, Espada!😄

  • @DurzoBlint178
    @DurzoBlint178 3 месяца назад +1

    How does the voyager large compare to the Recon 1? I know there is a difference in material, but is there significant difference in the feel and balance?

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  3 месяца назад

      Good question! I may have to add one to my collection to compare.

  • @fightpsych
    @fightpsych 23 дня назад +1

    Can you please rank the voyagers based on their blade profiles?

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  23 дня назад +1

      My personal favorite is the Clip, followed by the drop, then the tanto. The Vaquero is kind of an outlier, better for martial, though the drop and the tanto are the most durable stabbers.

    • @fightpsych
      @fightpsych 23 дня назад +1

      Thank you for the quick reply!
      I really like the clip point and vaquero 👍

  • @kilencventiz
    @kilencventiz 4 месяца назад +1

    hello could you help me what is the difference between the COLD STEEL Large Voyager Clip Pt. Plain 29ACZ an the COLD STEEL Large Voyager Clip Pt. Plain 29AC Model's could you send me a picture of the two knife models because I want to buy them but somewhere the two part numbers are mixed up on some sites thanks for your help

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  4 месяца назад

      As far as I can tell on Amazon and other sites it's the difference between a box and a blister pack packaging, same knife. You might want to ask Cold Steel directly to be sure.

    • @kilencventiz
      @kilencventiz 4 месяца назад

      @@michaelrizzo5523 thanx the ACZ version tichness..AC modell better ;)

    • @kilencventiz
      @kilencventiz 4 месяца назад +1

      @@michaelrizzo5523 I used to be a big spyderco fan but I finished my new endura4 version the blades thinned out and the more expensive versions can't do much more, I had the comd steel kukri machete, almost cut my leg off with it :))) but the devil was with me :))))) vg10 blade I liked the good stuff the chinese D2 is a bit unsharp..everything is flooded with Chinese D2 knives 90% useless..Coldsteel is Cold steel..

  • @Pollyanna-cc3et
    @Pollyanna-cc3et 2 месяца назад

    It's funny a cooks knifes is where most of experience 8"
    Ti-lite 6 ...

  • @JCOwens-zq6fd
    @JCOwens-zq6fd 10 месяцев назад +2

    Blade restrictions do suck. Though here in Cali im pretty sure you can open carry a machete on your belt but not a 7inch knife. Ffs Cali laws are stupid.

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yup, dealt with those Cali laws for years.

    • @4449John
      @4449John 10 месяцев назад +2

      State laws here in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia are not the worst I've heard of. Problem is every little Podunk jurisdiction adds their .02¢ to things and hardly ever publishes their ever changing rules so their minions all have an easy time making up rules as they roll merrily along.

    • @michaelrizzo5523
      @michaelrizzo5523  10 месяцев назад +2

      @@4449John I spent many years working in far NorCal, but traveling to the Bay Area always made me check my carry length. And, yes, I've experienced LEOs making up their own interpretations of the local statutes.

    • @4449John
      @4449John 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@michaelrizzo5523 Well then, I'll call ya Brother....

  • @chrisdyck6524
    @chrisdyck6524 4 месяца назад +4

    My absolute favorite is the Voyager Vaquero XL serrated. But I never sharpen it. Is only for self-defense.And I live in Germany. Unfortunately I'm not politically correct Lynn 😅😉🫡