Pine64 kinda reminds me of how Microsoft experiments with device form factors for Windows (like the Surface Devices). But for Linux. I currently use an HP Elite x2 G1 for taking notes at school with Stylus Labs Write 3. But I imagine that people will want to use their PineNotes for notetaking. The PineNote, being a new form factor for Linux, will probably push the envelope in terms of foss stylus notetaking apps on Linux (which other than Xournal++, currently seems to be a category which is nonexistent), which is something I'm excited for!
Do you if this version of the RK3399S SoC have a built in NPU (AI hardware)? I know the RK3399 pro SoC has a NPU built in, and it is rated at around 2.4 - 3.0 TOPS. If this RK3399S versions has a NPU, then I could use it for speech recognition (language processing), or for the camera, do some Image recognition, or object detection? I would definitely get this phone for sure.
This looks pretty sweet - could be the one. So I guess for a user that wants a Pinephone as the daily driver, but maybe isn't super techy, then we just need to sit tight for a while and wait for software to develop a bit more? And perhaps Manjaro won't be the best OS for this type of customer.
I wonder how far the battery goes and how warm the back gets in comparison to the Betas they have out in the world. I haven't been able to daily mine, though the parts upgrade!
Honestly as long as it doesn’t overheat the battery life doesn’t matter all that much to me Just get a pretty big portable battery doc Should last for like 5-10 charges easily enough to last all day even is the normal battery life is only like 3 hours
@@EthanLR not sure what unironically means, I'm not a native English speaker so not sure if this was a serious question on mine, but I'll treat it as such anyway. The Pinephone is an awesome product for anyone, including the pen test community. For me it would save me the hassle of walking around with an RPi with monitor mode enabled antenna and GPS module. In other words, walk around and enjoy scanning while inside a large building to ensure your wireless network are up to standard.
@@zlrivo How i can disable hole in a screen or a panel of iphone that requires space? And you must know that everything cost money, why should i pay 5$ for cheap camera that will never work
@@real_PAL In mass production it's more expensive to offer a model without a front camera than just building a camera into every device produced. The cheapest of course would be to have no front camera at all.
Good update, but screen resolution should be at least 1080p and not 720p, which is definitely not enough nowadays. Also front camera only 5MB instead of minimum 8mb, 6 cores instead of 8 cores. Sorry this is absolutely not for us normal folks. I am using Linux since 1999 and fully since 2004, and it would be a dream to use Linux on the cell phone too. But for now it seems like most of us unfortunately need to stick with shitty spying pro-Google Android Phones.
6 cores is as good as 8 when you don't have spyware and unwanted background processes occupying two cores all the time ;-) You can double (or more) the screen resolution by just holding the phone a centimeter further away from your eyes without even needing more battery power to do that. Regarding the cameras you should start judging their quality based on other units of measure than Megabytes LOL. If you want to run Linux on mobile on better hardware get an Android device which can run Linux or pre-order the Purism Librem5.
@@armorgeddon Ich habe unbloated LineageOS 14 bis 17 auf Samsung Phones am Laufen gehabt, aber trotzdem genug RAM und mindestens eine Upper Midrange CPU sind auch dann noch wichtig, um ein flüßiges Handling zu haben. MP in einer Camera sind nicht das alleine Kriterium für Bildqualität, da gebe ich dir vollkommen recht. Aber Brennweite, Sensorgröße und Camera Software auch nicht, MP gehören definitive dazu. Gute Idee das mit einem Handy, welches Linux unterstützt, deshalb schaue ich regelmäßig bei Ubuntu Touch nach, ob neuere Geräte unterstützt werden. Aber bis jetzt sind die voll unterstützten Geräte nicht besser als 5 Jahre alte Geräte. Muß also weiter warten.
Not a developer but I'm very interested. Can't wait to get one.
Dang. The pinephone pro looks great. Once my current phone dies I'm definitely getting one!
Pine64 kinda reminds me of how Microsoft experiments with device form factors for Windows (like the Surface Devices). But for Linux. I currently use an HP Elite x2 G1 for taking notes at school with Stylus Labs Write 3. But I imagine that people will want to use their PineNotes for notetaking. The PineNote, being a new form factor for Linux, will probably push the envelope in terms of foss stylus notetaking apps on Linux (which other than Xournal++, currently seems to be a category which is nonexistent), which is something I'm excited for!
Another #RK3399 machine, just got to love this! And this one is a version I don't own yet, the #RK3399S... Very very tempting!
Do you if this version of the RK3399S SoC have a built in NPU (AI hardware)? I know the RK3399 pro SoC has a NPU built in, and it is rated at around 2.4 - 3.0 TOPS. If this RK3399S versions has a NPU, then I could use it for speech recognition (language processing), or for the camera, do some Image recognition, or object detection? I would definitely get this phone for sure.
This looks pretty sweet - could be the one. So I guess for a user that wants a Pinephone as the daily driver, but maybe isn't super techy, then we just need to sit tight for a while and wait for software to develop a bit more? And perhaps Manjaro won't be the best OS for this type of customer.
As a piece of hardware, the PinePhone, especially in Pro form, does seem ready for primetime. But the software definitely needs time to develop.
pinephones can't run android apps yet, so for a user that isn't 'super techy', they are not ideal.
@@theodiscusgaming3909 I’m pretty sure you can run an android emulation app and get most functionality from most android apps
@@fossforever512 cool. I wonder how well will that work on the pinephone pro's hardware though.
I had to check the date just to make sure it wasn't April 1st again. Looks like i might have found my Christmas gift to myself!!!
I really like this kind of presentation, i doesnt try to appeal to the people that will never see it
Too bad we didn't get any news for the PineBook Pro, I definitely neeeeeeeed this machine in my herd...
we need a pinebook pro 2
I wonder how far the battery goes and how warm the back gets in comparison to the Betas they have out in the world.
I haven't been able to daily mine, though the parts upgrade!
Honestly as long as it doesn’t overheat the battery life doesn’t matter all that much to me
Just get a pretty big portable battery doc
Should last for like 5-10 charges easily enough to last all day even is the normal battery life is only like 3 hours
I want four things. Decent photos, quick web browsing, calls and text, GPS maps.
You give me those I will drop android and apple in a heart beat.
The single most important question of all: Does the wifi module support monitor mode? ;)
why is that an important question (unironically) ?
@@EthanLR not sure what unironically means, I'm not a native English speaker so not sure if this was a serious question on mine, but I'll treat it as such anyway.
The Pinephone is an awesome product for anyone, including the pen test community. For me it would save me the hassle of walking around with an RPi with monitor mode enabled antenna and GPS module. In other words, walk around and enjoy scanning while inside a large building to ensure your wireless network are up to standard.
@@Storin_of_Kel oh, thank you!
yes, unironically means seriously
DAMN
Does this Pinephone pro SoC RK3399S have a NPU (AI hardware) built into that version of the SoC? I know the RK3399 pro SoC has a NPU on board.
hyype
fuck yes!
This is so great! Can't wait to get one this Christmas. (if they aren't sold out by then lol)
The battery size is smaller than the size of the mobile battery I bought from five years ago
Sweet
Amazing.
Very good......whr & how 2buy tis . .....
A very cool project, now there is not enough diversity in the mobile OS market in mass use
Very cool!
Which OS is the best / most widely used and tested?
Is there any chance to see pinephone without front camera. Never needed that, never wanna pay for that
There's a privacy switch on the inside if that's what bothering you, you can easily disable that
@@zlrivo How i can disable hole in a screen or a panel of iphone that requires space? And you must know that everything cost money, why should i pay 5$ for cheap camera that will never work
@@real_PAL Unfortunatly I don't think they sell phones without front cameras
@@zlrivo That's why i asked
@@real_PAL In mass production it's more expensive to offer a model without a front camera than just building a camera into every device produced. The cheapest of course would be to have no front camera at all.
Pleae release a phone-sized phone instead of all those phablets.
Time to add another device to ExpidusOS
Looks great, needs to be even higher spec and compatible with normies, gaming blahblahblah. Make it shiny and trendy"""
I WANT A TRADE IN........
BOUGHT THE FIRST EDITION THAT NEEDS TO BE CRACKED...
SOOOOOOOO PINE64
The first edition was clearly marked as basically only for kernel developers.
Beta
@@BradLancaster86 The Braveheart edition was pre-alpha.
When is the Pinebook Pro available again?
Good update, but screen resolution should be at least 1080p and not 720p, which is definitely not enough nowadays. Also front camera only 5MB instead of minimum 8mb, 6 cores instead of 8 cores. Sorry this is absolutely not for us normal folks. I am using Linux since 1999 and fully since 2004, and it would be a dream to use Linux on the cell phone too. But for now it seems like most of us unfortunately need to stick with shitty spying pro-Google Android Phones.
6 cores is as good as 8 when you don't have spyware and unwanted background processes occupying two cores all the time ;-)
You can double (or more) the screen resolution by just holding the phone a centimeter further away from your eyes without even needing more battery power to do that.
Regarding the cameras you should start judging their quality based on other units of measure than Megabytes LOL.
If you want to run Linux on mobile on better hardware get an Android device which can run Linux or pre-order the Purism Librem5.
@@armorgeddon Ich habe unbloated LineageOS 14 bis 17 auf Samsung Phones am Laufen gehabt, aber trotzdem genug RAM und mindestens eine Upper Midrange CPU sind auch dann noch wichtig, um ein flüßiges Handling zu haben. MP in einer Camera sind nicht das alleine Kriterium für Bildqualität, da gebe ich dir vollkommen recht. Aber Brennweite, Sensorgröße und Camera Software auch nicht, MP gehören definitive dazu. Gute Idee das mit einem Handy, welches Linux unterstützt, deshalb schaue ich regelmäßig bei Ubuntu Touch nach, ob neuere Geräte unterstützt werden. Aber bis jetzt sind die voll unterstützten Geräte nicht besser als 5 Jahre alte Geräte. Muß also weiter warten.
if u dont know shit about tech get this phone n you will soon learn 👍
Pubg gameplay of this phone
it doesn't run android apps, so no pubg
so the piece of sh=it phone i already own is now worthless. and still don't work as a phone and the new one still sucks.
someone is mad at their own decisions i see
If it's *worthless* than gift it to someone who can use it for development. I'll take it.
Łukasz ≈ wookash