@@RobertOfStAlbans_ Dont assume anything in islamic text is an automatic giveaway that its material of Islamic Extremism, it might mean something totally different.
That flag says : lā ilāha illa llāh Which means "There is no god but Allah" Its a word to declare the believe to the one true god So its has Nothing to do with any extremist activity.
Were it not for the inward facing thorns, I would also agree, but their directionality clearly denotes intent. Whether they directly digest the animals with enzymes isn't relevant so much as the obvious deliberateness of entrapment.
Glad to see you listed the positives of the bramble plant as well! Not many people take into consideration how “pest” like thorny plants can be crucial in the conversion of a landscape
@@CaptainMyCaptain33 A friend of mine is a forester/hunter (as in actual profession) when he took me along his to get blackberries he told me that he often finds bones of rabbits and also even dear inside the bushes when he needs to cut them back down. He also got a dog out of a blackberry bush who went missing after their owners went to collect mushrooms. I was present with the search, tho not present when they found the dog. It was entangled in a blackberry bush unable to get out. It was a german shepherd mix, looked like a regular german shepherd to me, tho. It was in 2015, northern germany.
@@CaptainMyCaptain33 There is no reason why it wouldn't be true, bramble bushes that have spikes that are randomly pointing inwards would naturally catch more animals by accident. The more animals that die at it's base feed the soil with nutrients and the bramble bush is more likely to survive because it has a greater nutrient source. So when the brambles reproduce the ones most likely to survive to reproduce would be the ones with this extra nutrient source and they are ones with the inward facing spikes. This is simple evolution and would continue until all the bramble bushes grow with inward facing spikes.
Lots of people seem to miss one of the main points in this - the thorns face backwards. So they're not like vines/nettles/trees, ok? Also, look at the damage done to the plants by the sheep - if the thorns are purely defensive, then they aren't working very well, are they? Lastly, to all those people who automatically repeat the mantra that sheep are dumb/stupid - you obviously haven't spent much time with sheep. They are funny and intelligent. They have been bred to be calm and compliant - but that isn't the same as stupid.
***** the man was just showing a sheep caught in the brambles, its not to say sheep are the only ones effected by these plants and that the plant has evolved to catch sheep only.
+David R This is a none scientific video presented by a none scientist using no scientific methodologies on a none scientific forum and your commenting about it being unscientific....take care David R.
This was actually an interesting insight that I had not considered before - that some plants like this may be indirectly carnivorous - in that they don't digest the animal inside specialized plant parts, but rather trap the animal, to have it's carcass fertilize the soil in which they are rooted. Very interesting!
@@Anyayowoki You would be wrong. Many plants have adaptations to kill animals to enrich the soil. Not every carnivorous plant is one that eats flies. Ever heard of plants benefitting from having bonemeal put in the soil for farming?
Huh. That’s very interesting. The plant doesn’t “eat” the sheep as one would think, but rather they trap the sheep until they cannot escape and eventually die, then feed off the dead sheep, which provide nutrients to the plant as they die and decompose.
Brian Lin all carnivorous plants or rather insectivorous plants doesn’t technically eat their prey... they just trap it and kill it either by starvation or drowning...
Because this plant isnt considered a carnivorous plant, they cant produce digestive enzymes which carnivorous plant do, and even if that plant caught that sheep on purpose its called proto carnivorous, which are called to carnivorous plants that are somewhat carnivorous, did you know theres a flower that uses trigger systems to put pollens on insects..? How ever small insect aren't so lucky and get killed in the process, the flower will then produce digestive enzymes to digest it, but its not a carnivorous plant because the plant doesn't really need it to survive, carnivorous plant will die without a prey.
+vivelajonny, Well a scientific theory states that first one must observe then one can test one observation. Make a theory on one's observations. Then said data needs to have viable testable data that can be tested by another. then document your observation and then one has a workingTheory. This guy NEEEDS to wright this up. I do belive he is on to something very important!! :-)
+vivelajonny How, precisely, is it speculation? Have you watched it? Because stating that they have backward-facing spikes that draw anything caught in them inward (think of a ratcheting chain drive, or something similar) is certainly not speculation. Saying that the plants would benefit from the nutrients of the dead animals for quite a while is not speculation... People in the comments support the notion of finding animal remains in and near bramble patches... So either I'm missing how this video is "entirely speculation", you misunderstand what speculation means, or you didn't watch the video.
William Bostedt Saying that the plant "actively hunts animals" is completely speculation, its a theory based off the facts that he presented, but it is a theory, it is a SPECULATION. Apparently you don't know what it means. Speculation definition: ideas or guesses about something that is not known There is no concrete proof these plants actively hunt anything
I thought this was gonna be a clickbait video with a sheep stuck in a large fake Venus fly trap but it actually turned out to be informative. Good job.
To all the people who don't seem to understand this: A carnivorous being purpousfully consumes other living beings like lizards or mammals (essentially everything that has a blood flow), it does that either by feasting on a corpse or by killing / luring it's prey in to a trap. If a sheep happens to die next to an oak tree it does not necessarily make the oak tree carnivorous, it simply happens to use the sheeps nutrients, however if a plant is designed to function like a trap and as a result of that efficiently consumes it's prey then it is in fact carnivorous. A carnivorous being does not have to chew on it's prey with a mouth, it simply has to consume it and normally has a tactic that allows it to get to said meat. Great video and very fascinating topic, i never would have thought of that. Also it was so nice to see how you freed those sheeps :) (By the way by the dictionary's definition "carnivorous" simply means "flesh-eating" or "feeding on flesh", so it's actually even easier than i described it, still with my previous description there should be no doubt left)
'Carnivorous plant' it's has its own SEPERATE definition in the biological world. Darwin even studied carnivorous plants and there is many species and not all look like the flute bowl of fly trap, some release resin which insects get stuck in and decay.
HellsGun if you are talking about the sundew or as its also known the starfish plant it actually applys more resin to the insect once capured by the rest of the hairs on the leave next to the insect move twords the insect before the leave folds around it the starfish plant the one that looks like a succulant uses the same sticky resin but once an instect is caught it folds the outter parts of its leaves into a tight roll around it thats the difference from carnivorous they actually ATTEMPT to capture prayer unlike bramble here that just happened to have its thorns get caught in the sheeps unnatural fur and the sheep struggles and further tangles ITSELF the plant does nothing
I don't get people man. This guy demonstrates an interesting idea and people just spew shit and hate in the comments. Clearly two very different levels of human here.
Some do, most only watch, others never DO anything but criticize the do'ers as say how they "would've done it better." But they are merely annoying loud mouthed frauds. They could never do it better, because they'd never start to DO anything in the first place.
Some watch to be entertained, and act so; others watch to be informed - and aren't, simply don't understand, or are. So, of four, generally speaking only one out of four come for the purpose of the video. Such is cyberspace...
Are you criticizing people for being rude or for disagreeing? If it's the latter consider the following: "Haters" is a convenient internet colloquial used by ppl referring to those who say things they don't like, whether or not hate is actually involved. Is disagreement hate spewing? Brambles really don't kill that many animals, so it's debatable whether there's a niche of carnivorous rose bushes that gets a significant amount of nutrients from decaying animals. There aren't that many animals other than sheep which can be entangled by these bushes. Further, rose bushes grow in all sorts of environments, and plenty of people who grow them have noted they grow fine in the absence of dead, decaying animals. As one person pointed out on a stack exchange thread (biology.stackexchange.com/questions/58569/is-bramble-blackberry-bush-carnivorous): 1) domestic sheep with thick wool are a relatively new evolutionary phenomenon, not leaving wild organisms enough time to adapt. 2) it's not clear that rotting meat provides nutrients to these particular plants. 3) these plants aren't usually accompanied by dead animals. Many people on quora and stack exchange pointed our that brambles don't secrete digestive enzymes. If this is indeed a developing evolutionary niche the brambles that systematically "trap" animals are at most "proto-carnivourous" plants they do not digest dead animals. But they may through highly inefficient means absorb some of the byproducts of decay.
AdirondackNY herd of sheep loose in a Montana town. instant riot as all the horny guys start chasing them down. couple months later all you here is daa aady!!!!
Cal Anon Same. I don't know if you'd classify them as carnivorous, but the idea of the brambles being turned inwards as an adaptation to capture animals and use them for nutrients doesn't seem that far-fetched at all.
You killed your sarcasm. And yes I agree they shouldn't be called carnivorous. But his thesis IS sound. Compare his observation process to researchers on other topics.
It's more defensive than anything. Here's why: Carnivorous plants release digestive enzymes to digest their prey or have other adaptations specifically to pull nutrients from the things they kill. Brambles would have to rely on something else to rot the carcass and pick up whatever trace nutrients that get released into the soil like any other plant. Brambles tendency to tangle could just as easily be a defensive adaptation meant to encourage herbivores to avoid it. Without any specific adaptations to uptake the nutrients from killed animals, classifying them as carnivorous would be premature. plus- they grow (and most importantly) spread perfectly fine without the need of catching sheep.
Free Diugh and you take the definition of a carnivorous plants as proof for it to be none... which is pretty premature, how do you think carnivorous plants began to exist in the first place, that's the actual question, maybe it's just another kind that is passively carnivorous and the animal corpses would even attract more animals (even tho I think that sheeps are the most endangered ones because of their wool, it's like velcro fastener lol
This plant strategy has been documented in trees of the Pisonia genus a.k.a "bird catcher trees". They secret a sticky substance that usually is only annoying to the birds, but now and then birds get covered in it and can't fly and so they fall on the ground and die on the forest floor. This typically happens to fledgelings. These trees are found in tropical islands like in the Caribbean and near Australia.
The plant doesn't eat the sheep. It traps it so that it dies there, and then the plant can absorb the nitrogen and things like that from its decaying body. Just like venus fly traps.
Interesting hypothesis! Glad to see you know your farm and humanely check your sheep. When we lived in Kent, we would go for walks and regularly found sheep caught up. So much so, we started taking secateurs and gloves with us so we could get the daft (and often ungrateful) creature free! Nice vid and keep up the good work.
A lot of people don't know that tomato plants are also carnivorous plants. The fuzz on their spines and leaves actually tangles flies preventing them from escaping. The dead carcasses of flies will then fall to the ground and fertilize the plant.
That doesn't make them carnivorous. "Carnivorous plants release digestive enzymes to digest their prey or have other adaptations specifically to pull nutrients from the things they kill. Brambles would have to rely on something else to rot the carcass and pick up whatever trace nutrients that get released into the soil like any other plant. Brambles tendency to tangle could just as easily be a defensive adaptation meant to encourage herbivores to avoid it. Without any specific adaptations to uptake the nutrients from killed animals, classifying them as carnivorous would be premature." The same applies to your statement here. The fuzz is actually meant to protect the plant from creatures like caterpillars that consume the leaves.
The nutrients are added to the soil, which is where they get them from in the first place. They don't need to have additional adaptations as these would be superfluous. Another example of this kind of thing happening with plants is a certain tropical tree that produces seeds that stick to bird feathers. They can get to the point where so many seeds are stuck to a bird that it can't fly and eventually dies on the ground, providing nutrients to the plant. I think it would be more correct to say they are not carnivores by necessity. but opportunists. The adaptation of the brambles means that while they don't actively capture prey, if an animal just happens to get stuck and decompose into the ground around their roots that is all the better for them.
While technically correct you do realize that is only TECHNICALLY correct right? I mean the fact that the brambles probably are evolved to bring this eventuality to pass is undeniable. I'ts probably one of the reasons they are so prolific. How many rodents or birds get caught in them that we don't really find out about? Brambles might not be carnivores by the way humans have defined carnivores. But if that's the case tell that to the bones of the dead sheepies? Time to revise the definition I say. Don't get so caught on definitions my friend. They move .. That's why it's SCIENCE. And not say religion.
I opened youtube for a quick search about the current affordable CPU's, and twenty minutes later I ended up here. Now I'm going to search for a field to buy, and get some sheeps so I can save them from these silent killers. I'm a farmer now.
Andrew, I did my chores with my goats, cooked delicious food, and sat down to look up a video on cold frames, to find these lovable sheep being attacked by brambles. My next video is, "World's Hairiest Baby...(Gordon...a miniature donkey foal)." That's where I am headed......... Boy, that was great. Now I want a mini donkey.
Maria, You made me laugh. I have goats and I am allergic to hay. Well, probably a particular plant sometimes found in hay. If you want to dream, look up pygora goats. They look like fluffy sheep. Maybe you would not be allergic to fiber goats. I have two. Lint Eastwood, and Dirty Hairy..
He's talking about the farmer's voice. I'm pretty sure anyway. It's naturally calm, which induces a feeling of calmness. Not sure why you felt the need to type in all caps, though. Calm down. :^)
How does it make sense? Brambles have been around for a very long time, much longer than sheep have due to sheep being bred by humans. There is no other animal that has hair, fur, or wool that make it susceptible to being caught by brambles. Brambles did not evolve to kill sheep.
Right now it's only small wooly barnyard animals...next it'll be hipsters getting their beards caught as they attempt to steal the fruit from this savage killer.
People have laughed at me and thought me mad too for saying the very same thing for years. It is obvious to me too. Thanks for making me feel a little less crazy.
+El rey No, El Ray, it isn't false. It's a theory based on observation. You can argue against it, and others can judge the arguments and the evidence, but just stating something is false is just silly.
+WayOutWest Blowinblog I think it's false too. Or rather, simply inaccurate. There's more evidence to indicate they're not carnivorous than evidence to suggest they are. European blackberries were imported to the USA, and on the farm I grew up on, there was a large bramble hedge. There was a wide array of large wildlife present; raccoons, deer, coyotes, opposum, badgers, even black bears and the occasional mountain lion to name just a few. Not a single animal, not even our large dogs, were caught on this 1.5 mile long hedge. Thus, blackberry brambles couldn't have evolved with species upon which to regularly feed on. Even in the UK only sheep appear to be caught in brambles - NOT the native wildlife. The reason sheep fall prey so often to them is simple: They're domesticated. They're selectively bred to lack survival instincts and to have unnaturally long wool.
+MetalSlugzMaster He stated sheared lambs don't get caught, only the thick coated ones do. Can you state any animals on your list that have a curly coat of wool? There might not be those kinds of animals in USA because the bramble killed them all!
I want to take the time to comment on this upload to thank you for a really interesting and very professionally made video. So informative and you have a wonderful way of speaking clearly, intelligently and simultaneously sincerely about your subject, something about which you obviously care and know deeply. Consider me a subscriber.
But he's wrong. Brambles have no fitness advantage in consuming the remains of animals and have no digestive enzymes, AND does not rely on capturing and killing animals for nutrients. So sure, it's a good-looking video with an earnest attempt at making an argument. But he's wrong.
@@corcon6976Actually he’s not wrong. The animal decomposing underneath it would enrich the soil and increase its nitrogen content making the soil more fertile. The plant would directly benefit from the nutrients.
doesn't really fit though. www.sarracenia.com/faq/faq1260.html in order for it to evolve as carnivorous it must somehow benefit directly in reproductive fitness and it would maximize this especially if competing with other animals/plants. It survives perfectly fine without eating sheep but not fine if the sheep (or other animals) eat it- suggesting more of a defense than anything.
But why waste effort trying to evolve to fend off an attacker, when you can evolve in a more efficient way to consume the attacker without any more effort... That's my logic at least, doesn't mean you're wrong at all. Just what I think.
Natey 180- it's pretty enticing to think about it like that but you have to remember evolution is all about reproduction. Lots of plants (I mean LOTS) have defensive measures without a shred of carnivorousness, thus it's not as energy inefficient as you may think. Besides, the story that it's carnivorous falls apart when you realize sheep with fluffy wool are primarily a human invention, the sheep could be eaten by a million other things before eaten by the plant, and the plant has pretty much none of the hallmarks of an actual plant evolved to be carnivorous (that is, reproduced based on the selective pressure for carnivorousness). So all in all, the evidence heavily suggests it's not carnivorous. Totally OK to explore the carnivorous angle though, as long as we don't put what we think is true over what actually is true.
That's a very fair point. I have no knowledge at all on sheep as well for that matter, are you suggesting they didn't always have such wooly coats? Or is there a bit more to it? I literally have no idea. There is definitely much more to be explored in its direction in evolution. Hanging on to one fact about it and claiming it means this specifically would be... not naive but maybe wishfully ignorant, regardless of if it is the right. I kinda think though that it's already put the effort into evolving thorns. Maybe it started as defense and continued to evolve into something a bit more. Would it also be possible at all that (not sure if this happens in nature) it crossbred with another plant with thorns and held onto what it was freely given? Probably not, but even if it's not possible, the fact it can be considered also reminds me (and hopefully others) that there are many things to think about that are greatly outside of the box and known playing field. I feel like plants are harder to figure out than animals when it comes to evolution. Maybe I just get animals more than plants. But Animals just seem to be less mysterious as you can force situations to figure certain things out. And watching them is a little more responsive.
Natey- so here's a quick explanation of the sheep thing that I think does a good job: www.quora.com/If-a-sheep-needs-to-be-sheared-every-12-months-or-suffer-detrimental-health-effects-how-did-wild-sheep-exist-before-domestication-Was-their-fleece-different As for the thorns and crossbreeding, that's a good question. Lots of surprising things happen in biology that we may never have thought of so you're totally right that we should not be afraid to think outside of the box. But I would just add that while we can think outside the box, we should try to avoid leaping outside of the data. If the plant has thorns and you want to follow the hypothesis that it is carnivorous, that's great but make sure you can make biologically relevant predictions that can be proven false like "if carnivorous, then evolved other mechanisms to ensure nutrient gain that directly leads to increased reproduction" (just as an example). So yes, it's possible but I would make a hypothesis that if it happened we can find out by looking at the genetic data and finding out when and how or whether that is highly likely/unlikely. Cool to see someone else interested in biology and asking good questions!
@@yasbae4165 it was Isaac. Its in the "binding of Issac" narrative. YhWh orders Abraham to offer up his closest son Isaac, and just as he does upon the altar he was essentially told it was a test. Then Abraham found the ram caught in the bramble. Then both Abraham and Isaac sacrifice the ram as a burnt offering. Ishmael did not have any part in this narrative. Which is called "the binding of Isaac" for a reason.
not true Jebus my boy...but thanks for perpetuating at least ONE known myth (flat earth) and attempting to perpetuate what is highly like another (a God existing) due to lack of any evidence the proof of your god is the same proof i have for Unicorns...its just simply "beleive because i tell you to" ....thers no REASON to beleive, and outside you CLAIMING it, there is no actual evidence or proof which makes for quite the dubious claim im aware you religious types like to be desperatly looking for reasons why you are alive, because you cant just accept that you are a human, and that humans arent really all that special in the bigger picture of the universe but such desperate searching is both silly and a complete waste of perfectly good time, you could spend that time better, like feeding the homeless and helping the needy, volunteering to clean up trash in your community, and probably the biggest time-saver: not trying to convince people on the internet of your ancient mythology that doesnt hold up under modern logical or scientific scrutiny you say god exists and the world is flat...well im game, prove it to me! your making that claim so its up to you to prove it! ill wait and ill listen but i guarantee you wont say or do anything i havent heard 1000 times before but im at least fair enough to give you the opportunity
I don't know how I ended up here, I'm just glad I did. Saw some cute sheep and learned that brambles are bloodthirsty killers. Figures tho, even as a kid I could never stand these plants exactly because of their backward facing thorns.
Sound observations & logically this is a good arguement imo. A passive predatory plant, less elaborate & obvious as a pitcher plant but potentially deadly to any mid to large size animal caught. The benefit would be huge, the ease of which an animal can be caught & the angled spines make for a good arguement.
Those things have snagged me up rather well on more than a few occasions. Of course, I have hands, tools, and a pretty big brain so I can escape with their luring delicious berries. I do suggest against leaping into a bunch of them in short and a t-shirt. I did that once. I regretted it. Don't ask me why I did it.
There's a plant I discovered that thorn wise makes the black berry vine look tame. Its the contorted version of poncirus trifoliata or the flying dragon bitter orange. The normal bitter orange has inch long thorns but the flying dragon has inch long hooks that are so friggin sharp if you some got entangled in it you would probably die from lose of blood. Blackberries are bad but this small beautiful citrus tree has got to be deadly for anyone or thing that may accidentally get caught in it
Even tho this plant may not have digestive acids that put the sheep directly into the plant, I find it totally believable that a plant can adapt to trap and kill things around it to create fertile soil for itself. Having rotting animal corpses surrounding a plant would be VERY beneficial in the right circumstances, creating tons of nutrients to go right into the soil for the roots. Seems like a very balanced, natural feeding system for the entire ecosystem
commenter78 Was that sarcasm? I really hope so. What does intelligent design have to do with this plant? It adapted overtime to survive more when it happened to lure in and kill more animals. These dead animals provided nutrients, thus causing the plants that "kill" the sheep to survive more and breed more. Fast forward a few million years and you have a plant that murders sheep
Al Capone the invisible guy in the sky of the intelligent design and the magical primordial soup of the evolutionary theory are similarly logical. but i think it would have been more logical if a car naturally evolved over millions of years to become a car out of the soup than the infinitesimally complex animal organisms. our existence doesnt make much sense.
Eli G invisible guy in sky may be alien scientists. it is easy to imagine that if human technological advancement keeps its present rate of advancement in a couple thousand years it will be able to design whole ecosystems and creatures from scratch. i mean currently it is starting to happen with genetic modified organisms. so intelligent design is a very possible origin of life on earth.
Eli G Actually if you look deeper into it, you could build an argument for humans being "designed" and not fitting in with all other earth creatures. From our DNA, body design, brains, everything. I dont believe in a religious god at all, but I believe the best two theories for humans is random occurrence and evolution, or some "super aliens" designing us for one of many different reasons.
@@banditdoggo Idk if I trapped you in my basement until you died of dehydration, I think most courts around the world would agree that I directly "killed" you, no?
@alphaxard1 there is actually some plants that do indeed "kill" other plants. Sometimes you see some plants wrap themselves around others like a tree "suffocating it" and taking it's sunshine :C :x I'm bad with words.
Joker Deadman Speaking of salad fingers has David firth released any new weird shit yet? He did a tour or something but hasn't uploaded any sketches in ages
wow must be some variety of blackberry then. I have all sorts of blackberry bushes at my house, raspberries too and i don't recall them having deep interconnected root systems. Cause dad dug up a number of my bushes. Rolling the stems out of the dirt. Cause older brother wanted to plant potatoes at are house and decided to plant under the tree line too. And then didn't even plant and they didn't grow back.
"Ahhhhh *evil smile* Anotha sheep caught by the merciless brambles....let's have a look shall we? Oooo I'll snip this one, and maybe even that one.....but I get such pleasure seeing you struggle Mr.Sheep ...I think your new name shall be ....... REEK. yessssssss dance for me REEK muah HAH HAHAHAaaaa
MODERN / FROGGY if the astronaut didnt want us to eat meat , then explain why leave animals with a MANDITORY MEAT CONSUMPTION on the planet :) ( cats and dogs )
Vegans who try to convert people are just as bad as religious nutsacks who do the same. I truly believe in, and wish to be fully vegan, but I am too addicted to salt and fat and oil. I will break it someday. Keep your finger in your own girlfriend I always say.
That’s honestly a really good hypothesis on the evolution of ‘Brambles.’ It convinces me at least :) Now I wouldn’t say they are technically carnivores since they do not actually digest the meat, but I do believe they gained the trait to trap animals and gain nutrients from their decomposition! Really interesting idea! Love it!
I'm not even into botany and all but I loved this video because he has an extremely good point and a well though theory with sharp arguments. It feels like he got antagonized by someone when he first came up with this idea and it really fed him into finding more evidence to prove it beyond ordinary doubt.
Marcos Gomes I find interesting to explore the margines of a definition or classification, and the biopolitics and exclusion estructure of science, and hence, language. And at the end, as Agambem express, the beauty of ideas.
okay you shouldn't be using words with more characters than your IQ m8 and the plant doesn't gain any nutrients from the animal therefore calling it carnivourous is wrong, we classify things as such for a reason. By his logic any plant which has a way of using spines to deter predators is carnivourous (which it isn't)
I get what you're saying. The plant is very close to being a carnivore, but it just does not ingest the material of the animal like a carnivore does. Instead it relies on the natural decomposition of the animal, or other organisms to do the work for it. This is a lot different than an organism having the means to decompose and extract the nutrients of something by itself. Personally I'm in favor of adding a new classification for these kinds of organisms that can catch and kill, but do not directly consume other animals. This is a very interesting video nonetheless! I've never thought of these kinds of plants in this way before.
Evolution is a fact, a fact that has been accepted by the scientists as a pillar of biological study. If you have the evidence and proof that it's wrong, please show us your Nobel and accredited scientific papers. Please display your ignorance for everyone to laugh at.
While studying horticulture the question "what is your favourite plant?" often came up. I always said the one I admire most was the Blackberry, not that I like them, just that they are so resilient, so well designed. Now I'm even more impressed!
They're not strictly carnivorous. But you could argue they're protocarnivoros. They cannot directly digest protein from the animal instead relying on the carcass to rot and provide the nutrients. However this is NOT a primary source of food meaning you'd be hard pressed to call them carnivores.
he means they are getting food via photosynthesis, so obviously they're are not an actual carnivorous plant. Big difference between us surviving on rice. It's a plant, it turn energy from the sun into its food. The only thing a dead animal seeping into its roots would do is provide fertilizer for it, but it could not survive on that fertilizer alone.
makes sense, it's the effect of evolution, one generation of plant mutated and grew its thorns backward and due to the fact it "trapped animals" gave it an advantage and it became dominant over the years, this plant isn't necessarily "carnivorous" the way we usually encounter this word, it doesn't hunt, but it does trap and "eat" animals by using their bodies as a catalyst/boost to the plant, didn't expect that, i did sneer at this upon first hearing it but it makes sense
Id wait to see if its observed among the wildlife--sheep were domesticated for, among many things, theyre wool. Perhaps its the sheeps wool causing their entanglement.
Yes but sheep and brambles are as old as Jesus so they probably evolved together and as he said, sheep still die from getting trapped in those bushes. Like it or not, being able to trap nutritious cadavers is always an advantage in nature so I'm gullible to believe that brambles actually evolved with these hooks for a reason rather than just by accident.
I have, my dad and his family are very country and my dad calls it bobwire.. but we're also from the south too.. so we technically mispronounce everything anyway.
@Wolfexer: The OP's proposition is biologically and evolutionarily sound. There are a species of plants that grow in Bogs and swamps in the US called "Sundew" plants. They have long flat leaves covered with a sticky resin-like sap that smells very sweet. Insects and even small vertebrates in larger species are drawn to the sap, and when they touch it, they're stuck. The leaves then curl up and cover the prey in even more dew which starts the breakdown process. The nutrients from the digestion of the prey, as well as the nutrients its corpse might provide, are taken in and the plant propagate. Thanks to its carnivorous diet, it can tolerate poor soil conditions and low sunlight; things that occur in the habitat in which the Sundew thrives. Look at the similarities here. The bramble is hearty, meaning it can tolerate "eating" slowly, and go longer periods without food, accounting for the fact that the proposed "prey" item here is medium sized mammals, which are strong and weary. To account for size and strength, the brambles are thick and woody, and grow tall. Secondly, they grow two forms of a sweet sugar-rich grazing item that many mammals would be attracted to, Blackberries, and pollen. Sheep are the obvious example, but many other older mammals had very thick fur, and would be just as susceptible to being snared. His "Woolly Rhino" suggestion is a perfect example. The reverse facing thorns are the most appreciable aspect of the proposition. There is zero reason, from an evolutionary standpoint to grow thorns that face backwards unless they were growing to let things in, but not out. Sure, a wolf or wild boar might be able to nestle into a bramble, but the thorns themselves serve as a painful negative stimulus, which could trap smaller mammals inside despite the fact that they have no thick for or wool to get tangled in the thorns. And finally, the more you struggle or move, the more you get stuck, or the more likely you get caught, and that is a defining trait of almost every other species of carnivorous plant.
You don't need to be a biologist to see that it's a theory. It is not a fact like the guy in the video makes it out to be though, which gives this video a dislike for providing false information.
I have been looking a lot at thorned plants lately because of this. I wonder if all the rose family have this adaptation... was looking at some tea roses the other day - vicious great thorns on it and all facing backwards to permit some inward access to the stems but resist drawing back out again.The thorns even have an asymmetrical form which gives a buttress re-enforcement against forces acting in the outwards direction... looks very sus
@@flutedscissors9655 Not really. If the plan was to repel & discourage Browsers, the barbs would grow outward & away from the plant in a defensive posture. Inward facing thorns face that way for one purpose - to draw inward.
@@bobbofly if you get stuck in the rose bush it'll hurt like a bitch and then you won't want to go near roses again, if you eat a thorn it'll also hurt. Just cause it happens to face a way doesn't mean it isn't for whatever purpose
@@flutedscissors9655 I don't think this idea for the thorns' applications apply in the the smaller plants because the smaller plants aren't big enough to catch something with the type of hair that would get entangled like a sheep's would.
Anyone who has ever worked in the wood business or who have picked blackberries knows from painful experience the very scary ability of thorns to hold what they catch. It always feels like it's out to get you.
I am a berry picker, my favorite berries are black raspberries because of the flavor and the bushes don’t tend to get as large as blackberry bushes ...however after watching this I have a new respect for blackberry bushes
Eric Davis Lay for behold he, who is trodden into the dirty daily... behold he who is eaten alive every day! behold he whoes seed is swon to be butured by the season under an ever mowing blade!?!?!? ...let-him-have-his-vengance-upon-us... FOR IT IS JUST!!! @ _ @
Interesting, I'm in college and a little more than halfway to earning my masters degree in zoology and biology.And I've never seen or heard of anything like this before. Thank you for uploading this, perhaps I'll show it to my professors and see what they think.
Leopardus jacobita any chance you have an update for us? I am very interested in the opinion of a professional zoologist on this idea. I have a feeling that many others are also interested too.
Tragic Lynx They'd tell you it's definitely not a carnivorous plant. One is that bramble does not have any means of directly digesting the sheep and would rely on outside processes for nutrients to reach its roots. It also does not have any specialized means of obtaining the nutrients from the prey. Therefore bramble cannot be a carnivorous plant. It could be classified as a protocarnivorous plant, but that too seems highly suspect. First, sheep are a domesticated animal and have only existed for a short period of time. It is also the quality that we have selected for, the wool, that is causing the problem. It's almost certain that the anti-herbivorous defence mechanism the plant is employing is just too effective for sheep. This doesn't make them carnivorous or even proto. We'd have to establish that they benefit from the such action (which any benefit being unlikely significant, as I have tons of wild blackberries growing in my fields and have never come across a dead ungulate in them. And trust me, if they were there I would know as I breed Dalmatians and Weimaraners and they'd sniff them out so fast it wouldn't even be funny). Rotting carcasses in the bramble could actually hurt the plant being exposed to too much nutrients in fact. You should classify this one as extremely unlikely.
To those who are saying this isn't a carnivorous plant: There is a youtube video floating around that came out recently about an archaeological dig. In it they are digging up a mass grave from WW2. They were pulling skulls out of the ground and some of the skulls were broken, with roots coming out of the eye sockets and neck, so they opened a skull to reveal that roots had taken the place of brain matter a long time ago. They removed an entire chunk of roots that literally was the shape of a brain. Other videos showing experiments floating around buried animal carcasses at the base of trees and came back later to discover the roots had grown in the exact shape of the carcass when the animal was later dug-- they only found roots in the shape of the body, and the bones were gone. Plants will benefit from carcasses. Certain types of plants, the ones that can produce salicylates, are highy toxic to animals as well, and the chemicals are produced as anti-animal toxins specifically. Bonemeal is a soil amendment for growing vegetables for a reason; plants benefit from it, and some plants have adapted to take advantage of it. Not every carnivorous plant is one that eats flies.
We've made a new video in response to all the comments we've had on this one - you can see it here... ruclips.net/video/uMHpz6PS5Ek/видео.html
after seeing her the only thing i crave is a good fat steak bloody meat xd
Cool reply though👌🏼👍🏻
Interesting! Thanks
ruclips.net/video/ydRwNxrpc2A/видео.html The Bramble Plant could Really be Carnívorous according To Botanist Carolina García Luna
you should prune it and keep it outside the fence I mean
Sheep: oh look, a dinner
Plant: no u
That flag! 👆🏽
@@RobertOfStAlbans_ Dont assume anything in islamic text is an automatic giveaway that its material of Islamic Extremism, it might mean something totally different.
@@PadecMaybeReal Yeah but he didn't say that it was muslim extremism .-.
@@toshi2623 well it does seem like it. What else would it mean?
That flag says : lā ilāha illa llāh
Which means
"There is no god but Allah"
Its a word to declare the believe to the one true god
So its has Nothing to do with any extremist activity.
I beg to differ. Those are obviously sheep-growing trees. You haven't allowed them to ripen yet.
The MeméLord Yes, uwe trees.
The MeméLord I love you for this comment xDDD
you think they would figure that out by now...
That would make lamb a vegan diet, and wool an ethical option. I love that plant.
You think a farmer would know that.
*_*Sheep Eat Plants_*
*_*Plants Eat Sheep_*
*_*Vegan Eat Plants_*
*_*Food Chain has Left the Chat_*
Aldo Zulfikar ** DOES NOT COMPUTE**
Confused increase to 99%
*Plant eats vegan*
Vegan plant sheep
R
I think this plant would be put into the “proto carnivorous” category rather than just carnivorous because it does not digest the animal directly
I would have to agree with that.
@@grimmrider638 hmm yesyes agree, science
I also concur. Indubitably. Higgs boson, super conductor, bunsen burner.
Gang gang
Were it not for the inward facing thorns, I would also agree, but their directionality clearly denotes intent. Whether they directly digest the animals with enzymes isn't relevant so much as the obvious deliberateness of entrapment.
He should totally be one of those people that narrarates those nature videos.
that's what he just did
fuckin lold
Nikolas Young I know that's what he just did, but I mean, on an David Attenborough Level.
+lateblossom rhffk
But things he says are not true.
"they make blackberries! But they are also deadly killers"
Never thought i'd hear those words uttered in a row.
Chinese special ops?????
So make the choice. You like blackberries more than sheep or vice versa?
I'm sure there's a good way to cook mutton with blackberry sauce.
Hm, yeah, that would sound pretty random without context
Not surprising since black symbolizes death and darkness...
When you thought you had an understanding of the food chain... boom, plot twist.
But really, this has to be the most brutal plant in the world. Dang.
Rach H Edjewmacation will do that to you
You mean plant twist
@A Fucking Weaboo :(
Nova Traveller yes
Glad to see you listed the positives of the bramble plant as well! Not many people take into consideration how “pest” like thorny plants can be crucial in the conversion of a landscape
*Sheep caught like this stop struggling quite quickly and just stand there, calmly waiting for death to arrive.*
Peeper Gumball I was so shocked by that I had to hear him say it again :(
@@CaptainMyCaptain33 A friend of mine is a forester/hunter (as in actual profession) when he took me along his to get blackberries he told me that he often finds bones of rabbits and also even dear inside the bushes when he needs to cut them back down. He also got a dog out of a blackberry bush who went missing after their owners went to collect mushrooms. I was present with the search, tho not present when they found the dog. It was entangled in a blackberry bush unable to get out. It was a german shepherd mix, looked like a regular german shepherd to me, tho. It was in 2015, northern germany.
This plant is metal as fuck
CabinDoor what
@@CaptainMyCaptain33 There is no reason why it wouldn't be true, bramble bushes that have spikes that are randomly pointing inwards would naturally catch more animals by accident.
The more animals that die at it's base feed the soil with nutrients and the bramble bush is more likely to survive because it has a greater nutrient source.
So when the brambles reproduce the ones most likely to survive to reproduce would be the ones with this extra nutrient source and they are ones with the inward facing spikes.
This is simple evolution and would continue until all the bramble bushes grow with inward facing spikes.
the narrator's voice is so calm and monotone that now as I read each comment below in my head, his voice is there reading them for me.
Same
milky teaway your voice also might be angelic and i m felling for you
Creep^
Lots of people seem to miss one of the main points in this - the thorns face backwards. So they're not like vines/nettles/trees, ok?
Also, look at the damage done to the plants by the sheep - if the thorns are purely defensive, then they aren't working very well, are they?
Lastly, to all those people who automatically repeat the mantra that sheep are dumb/stupid - you obviously haven't spent much time with sheep. They are funny and intelligent. They have been bred to be calm and compliant - but that isn't the same as stupid.
+WayOutWest Blowinblog very interesting observation. glad to see you haven't demonized the plant either, nice one.
*****
the man was just showing a sheep caught in the brambles, its not to say sheep are the only ones effected by these plants and that the plant has evolved to catch sheep only.
lol yeah multifloral rose us a bitch fell in it as a kid but get thrashed by it all the time
they stop the sheep and animals from fucking eating them and tearing them apart intentionally
+David R
This is a none scientific video presented by a none scientist using no scientific methodologies on a none scientific forum and your commenting about it being unscientific....take care David R.
He’s gives out such a great Narration,Well done man.
That moment when your food's food eats your food
oh shit it's that boi
+Krispysquare lets make a baby
+jose fermin LoL! I Think you're missing a few vital key steps for 'mating'...
Lol
Arik Kutselev hhhhhh
This was actually an interesting insight that I had not considered before - that some plants like this may be indirectly carnivorous - in that they don't digest the animal inside specialized plant parts, but rather trap the animal, to have it's carcass fertilize the soil in which they are rooted. Very interesting!
You understand this insn’t a carnivorous plant. It’s just a sheep stuck in a bush
@@Anyayowoki agreed ,its fake those plants dont move
Protocarnivorous is the term a Bramble Bush falls under.
@@eskimo9754, neither do Sarracenia move.
@@Anyayowoki You would be wrong. Many plants have adaptations to kill animals to enrich the soil. Not every carnivorous plant is one that eats flies. Ever heard of plants benefitting from having bonemeal put in the soil for farming?
Huh. That’s very interesting. The plant doesn’t “eat” the sheep as one would think, but rather they trap the sheep until they cannot escape and eventually die, then feed off the dead sheep, which provide nutrients to the plant as they die and decompose.
Brian Lin all carnivorous plants or rather insectivorous plants doesn’t technically eat their prey... they just trap it and kill it either by starvation or drowning...
apdroid geek Most carnivorous plants produce digestive enzymes after the prey is trapped to digest the prey.
Brian Lin yes but dont exactly eat them...
the very definition of “eat” is the ability to chew...
apdroid geek I suppose you’re right. But at least carnivores plants digest their prey
Why do people dislike this? He saved the sheep.
They dislike it because he’s wrong. Brambles are certainly not carnivorous.
The tree clicked dislikes
@@jarretdietzler7750 he did a response video to the comments. Have a look see what you think.
Vegans are the reason
Because this plant isnt considered a carnivorous plant, they cant produce digestive enzymes which carnivorous plant do, and even if that plant caught that sheep on purpose its called proto carnivorous, which are called to carnivorous plants that are somewhat carnivorous, did you know theres a flower that uses trigger systems to put pollens on insects..? How ever small insect aren't so lucky and get killed in the process, the flower will then produce digestive enzymes to digest it, but its not a carnivorous plant because the plant doesn't really need it to survive, carnivorous plant will die without a prey.
I don't know how I got here but it was quite interesting and informative.
Don't take this video as fact. This is 100% speculation
vivelajonny
Well yeah. Still interesting nonetheless.
+vivelajonny, Well a scientific theory states that first one must observe then one can test one observation. Make a theory on one's observations. Then said data needs to have viable testable data that can be tested by another. then document your observation and then one has a workingTheory.
This guy NEEEDS to wright this up. I do belive he is on to something very important!! :-)
+vivelajonny How, precisely, is it speculation? Have you watched it? Because stating that they have backward-facing spikes that draw anything caught in them inward (think of a ratcheting chain drive, or something similar) is certainly not speculation. Saying that the plants would benefit from the nutrients of the dead animals for quite a while is not speculation... People in the comments support the notion of finding animal remains in and near bramble patches... So either I'm missing how this video is "entirely speculation", you misunderstand what speculation means, or you didn't watch the video.
William Bostedt Saying that the plant "actively hunts animals" is completely speculation, its a theory based off the facts that he presented, but it is a theory, it is a SPECULATION.
Apparently you don't know what it means.
Speculation definition: ideas or guesses about something that is not known
There is no concrete proof these plants actively hunt anything
I thought this was gonna be a clickbait video with a sheep stuck in a large fake Venus fly trap but it actually turned out to be informative. Good job.
123457474869 do you know what a Venus flytrap looks like lol? And it's clearly not fake.
To all the people who don't seem to understand this: A carnivorous being purpousfully consumes other living beings like lizards or mammals (essentially everything that has a blood flow), it does that either by feasting on a corpse or by killing / luring it's prey in to a trap. If a sheep happens to die next to an oak tree it does not necessarily make the oak tree carnivorous, it simply happens to use the sheeps nutrients, however if a plant is designed to function like a trap and as a result of that efficiently consumes it's prey then it is in fact carnivorous. A carnivorous being does not have to chew on it's prey with a mouth, it simply has to consume it and normally has a tactic that allows it to get to said meat. Great video and very fascinating topic, i never would have thought of that. Also it was so nice to see how you freed those sheeps :)
(By the way by the dictionary's definition "carnivorous" simply means "flesh-eating" or "feeding on flesh", so it's actually even easier than i described it, still with my previous description there should be no doubt left)
'Carnivorous plant' it's has its own SEPERATE definition in the biological world. Darwin even studied carnivorous plants and there is many species and not all look like the flute bowl of fly trap, some release resin which insects get stuck in and decay.
HellsGun if you are talking about the sundew or as its also known the starfish plant it actually applys more resin to the insect once capured by the rest of the hairs on the leave next to the insect move twords the insect before the leave folds around it the starfish plant the one that looks like a succulant uses the same sticky resin but once an instect is caught it folds the outter parts of its leaves into a tight roll around it
thats the difference from carnivorous they actually ATTEMPT to capture prayer unlike bramble here that just happened to have its thorns get caught in the sheeps unnatural fur and the sheep struggles and further tangles ITSELF the plant does nothing
.......That is a sheep's natural fur. The unnatural shorn sheep don't get caught in the brambles.
+hzuiel sheep have been bred so they have an unnatural amount of fur
The term is "proto-carnivorous". They are on the evolutionary path to being full blown carnivorous plants.
I don't get people man. This guy demonstrates an interesting idea and people just spew shit and hate in the comments.
Clearly two very different levels of human here.
People just like arguing on YT, it's like this itch they have to "tell it like it is" or some shit.
Some do, most only watch, others never DO anything but criticize the do'ers as say how they "would've done it better."
But they are merely annoying loud mouthed frauds. They could never do it better, because they'd never start to DO anything in the first place.
Some watch to be entertained, and act so; others watch to be informed - and aren't, simply don't understand, or are. So, of four, generally speaking only one out of four come for the purpose of the video. Such is cyberspace...
Such a pleasant voice and accent.
Are you criticizing people for being rude or for disagreeing? If it's the latter consider the following: "Haters" is a convenient internet colloquial used by ppl referring to those who say things they don't like, whether or not hate is actually involved. Is disagreement hate spewing?
Brambles really don't kill that many animals, so it's debatable whether there's a niche of carnivorous rose bushes that gets a significant amount of nutrients from decaying animals. There aren't that many animals other than sheep which can be entangled by these bushes. Further, rose bushes grow in all sorts of environments, and plenty of people who grow them have noted they grow fine in the absence of dead, decaying animals.
As one person pointed out on a stack exchange thread (biology.stackexchange.com/questions/58569/is-bramble-blackberry-bush-carnivorous):
1) domestic sheep with thick wool are a relatively new evolutionary phenomenon, not leaving wild organisms enough time to adapt.
2) it's not clear that rotting meat provides nutrients to these particular plants.
3) these plants aren't usually accompanied by dead animals.
Many people on quora and stack exchange pointed our that brambles don't secrete digestive enzymes. If this is indeed a developing evolutionary niche the brambles that systematically "trap" animals are at most "proto-carnivourous" plants they do not digest dead animals. But they may through highly inefficient means absorb some of the byproducts of decay.
Explain that vegans
de cauchy -😂. 🏆
HAHAHAHA!!
de cauchy vegans minds would be blown if they knew what nature is ACTUALLY like
Lmao
😂😂👏
Your voice sounds so.... Classic, like a storyteller, maybe fairy-tale story telling, love it!
I just realised its Ramsay Bolton!
Agreed
WingMeTips Llama?
He reminds me of everyone in Hot Fuzz. "Mornin' Angle, no luck catching them killer plants then?"
Agreed
Hate to see a herd of sheep let loose in a Velcro factory
Where's the kickstarter for this?
AdirondackNY herd of sheep loose in a Montana town. instant riot as all the horny guys start chasing them down. couple months later all you here is daa aady!!!!
this XD
Daniel Alvarez What a disgusting bigot you are!
CaptainLumpyDog m
Sheep: I want this plant for dinner
Plant: Reverse Uno Card
*visible confusion*
@@TheGreyFeather0707 what’s confusing??? You don’t get the joke?
I was almost eaten by my wife's bush. It was only a close shave that saved me. Lol
White Van Man and here i thugt That you are ment to eat her Bush 😂 i guess it works both ways 😂
Lmfao 😂💯
White Van Man giantess vore
White Van Man nah, you screwed it up. Fail.
slow clap
And that's why blackberries taste so damn good
But then iphones come out. (Bad joke I know 😂)
fuck i’m a vegetarian
You’re not if you eat blackberries.😊✌️
Indeed, because it has shoarma mixed in it.
@@bluebloodcell9420 *apple
...actually, mate, I get you. Completely. It makes perfect sense! No joke. Your thesis is sound.
Cal Anon
Same. I don't know if you'd classify them as carnivorous, but the idea of the brambles being turned inwards as an adaptation to capture animals and use them for nutrients doesn't seem that far-fetched at all.
Perhaps, then, we should not call them "carnivorous" but "predatory" and, as they "feed" on the rotten meat, "predatory carrion feeders"?
You killed your sarcasm. And yes I agree they shouldn't be called carnivorous. But his thesis IS sound. Compare his observation process to researchers on other topics.
It's more defensive than anything. Here's why: Carnivorous plants release digestive enzymes to digest their prey or have other adaptations specifically to pull nutrients from the things they kill. Brambles would have to rely on something else to rot the carcass and pick up whatever trace nutrients that get released into the soil like any other plant. Brambles tendency to tangle could just as easily be a defensive adaptation meant to encourage herbivores to avoid it. Without any specific adaptations to uptake the nutrients from killed animals, classifying them as carnivorous would be premature.
plus- they grow (and most importantly) spread perfectly fine without the need of catching sheep.
Free Diugh and you take the definition of a carnivorous plants as proof for it to be none... which is pretty premature, how do you think carnivorous plants began to exist in the first place, that's the actual question, maybe it's just another kind that is passively carnivorous and the animal corpses would even attract more animals (even tho I think that sheeps are the most endangered ones because of their wool, it's like velcro fastener lol
It's crazy how that plant tied it self into a harness
That was the sheep’s doing
Lmao
This plant strategy has been documented in trees of the Pisonia genus a.k.a "bird catcher trees". They secret a sticky substance that usually is only annoying to the birds, but now and then birds get covered in it and can't fly and so they fall on the ground and die on the forest floor. This typically happens to fledgelings. These trees are found in tropical islands like in the Caribbean and near Australia.
I think you mean " secrete " . 😊
Of course one has to be in Australia...
a plant eating a sheep - seems like reverse food chain ....good example of parallel universe.
dextor0000 wouldn't a parallel universe be in another dimension?
The plant doesn't eat the sheep. It traps it so that it dies there, and then the plant can absorb the nitrogen and things like that from its decaying body. Just like venus fly traps.
Ariyan Ahmed CARNIVOROUS PLANES!
MANDELA EFFECT
Started expecting total bullshit, but you totally convinced me.
NGorso1 you're top comment
Interesting hypothesis! Glad to see you know your farm and humanely check your sheep. When we lived in Kent, we would go for walks and regularly found sheep caught up. So much so, we started taking secateurs and gloves with us so we could get the daft (and often ungrateful) creature free! Nice vid and keep up the good work.
I love this guy's voice.
uxtalzon it's called Asmr
uxtalzon search it up
uxtalzon search it up on RUclips
A lot of people don't know that tomato plants are also carnivorous plants. The fuzz on their spines and leaves actually tangles flies preventing them from escaping. The dead carcasses of flies will then fall to the ground and fertilize the plant.
Dont Afk like many plants yeah. I'd say so
Morbidly efficient. EEEEW!
That doesn't make them carnivorous.
"Carnivorous plants release digestive enzymes to digest their prey or have other adaptations specifically to pull nutrients from the things they kill. Brambles would have to rely on something else to rot the carcass and pick up whatever trace nutrients that get released into the soil like any other plant. Brambles tendency to tangle could just as easily be a defensive adaptation meant to encourage herbivores to avoid it. Without any specific adaptations to uptake the nutrients from killed animals, classifying them as carnivorous would be premature."
The same applies to your statement here. The fuzz is actually meant to protect the plant from creatures like caterpillars that consume the leaves.
The nutrients are added to the soil, which is where they get them from in the first place. They don't need to have additional adaptations as these would be superfluous.
Another example of this kind of thing happening with plants is a certain tropical tree that produces seeds that stick to bird feathers. They can get to the point where so many seeds are stuck to a bird that it can't fly and eventually dies on the ground, providing nutrients to the plant. I think it would be more correct to say they are not carnivores by necessity. but opportunists. The adaptation of the brambles means that while they don't actively capture prey, if an animal just happens to get stuck and decompose into the ground around their roots that is all the better for them.
While technically correct you do realize that is only TECHNICALLY correct right? I mean the fact that the brambles probably are evolved to bring this eventuality to pass is undeniable. I'ts probably one of the reasons they are so prolific. How many rodents or birds get caught in them that we don't really find out about? Brambles might not be carnivores by the way humans have defined carnivores. But if that's the case tell that to the bones of the dead sheepies? Time to revise the definition I say. Don't get so caught on definitions my friend. They move .. That's why it's SCIENCE. And not say religion.
I opened youtube for a quick search about the current affordable CPU's, and twenty minutes later I ended up here. Now I'm going to search for a field to buy, and get some sheeps so I can save them from these silent killers. I'm a farmer now.
Andrew Spud Next time, you search for blackberries to get 'affordable CPUs', yeah that should work.
Hahaha!! 😂😃😄
Andrew, I did my chores with my goats, cooked delicious food, and sat down to look up a video on cold frames, to find these lovable sheep being attacked by brambles. My next video is, "World's Hairiest Baby...(Gordon...a miniature donkey foal)." That's where I am headed......... Boy, that was great. Now I want a mini donkey.
YES after watching this, Im a farmer now too! (Although I did bloodwork a few years back my doctor told me that I was allergic to sheep...?)
Maria, You made me laugh. I have goats and I am allergic to hay. Well, probably a particular plant sometimes found in hay. If you want to dream, look up pygora goats. They look like fluffy sheep. Maybe you would not be allergic to fiber goats. I have two. Lint Eastwood, and Dirty Hairy..
This is a great depiction of that plant. Every other video I saw didn’t show them effectively.
I don't care about the debates and arguments people are having, I just love how calm this entire video is, it just makes me happy
IT'S NOT CALM AT ALL WERNT YOU EVEN WATCHING!?!
He's talking about the farmer's voice. I'm pretty sure anyway. It's naturally calm, which induces a feeling of calmness. Not sure why you felt the need to type in all caps, though.
Calm down. :^)
aMARKan comment Would you like to type that out again so that it makes sense? I think you missed some words out bud :)
Jen Donally good job on correcting someones writing mistakes when you made some yourself in your comment. what a dumbass
@ Jen Donally
Just Ew, Get a life hun. 😂
Thankfully we have hands!
And knives
CHAS1422 and brains
And chicken
TR EA not all humans have penises so your comment is invalid
Lazy Filmer everything living has a brain
Now I know where to send my mother in law to go berry picking.
Jebus Christ HaHaHa😀
lmao not if you want blackberries
make sure she's wearing a big wool sweater ^^
Jebus Christ I died!!!💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Laila Brown actually he was forced to wear a crown of thorns...hmm black berries had a hand in killing Jesus.. Jews mainly..
“You look a bit stuck, don’t ya?”
*”OH I’M DEFINITELY NOT STUCK DON’T WORRY ABOUT ME”*
I want this guy to read me bedtime stories 😴😪🙃
I dont, ever
Dont want him in my bedroom 😂
C Sparklingeyes he has an amazing animal planet voice
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hahaha
At first I thought this was a joke but it actually makes sense.
I thought the same thing
Jadin Andrews Why would it be a joke, didn't everyone learn about carnivorous plants in school? I didn't but didn't everyone else?
It makes tons a sense! Im still being in awe.
How does it make sense? Brambles have been around for a very long time, much longer than sheep have due to sheep being bred by humans. There is no other animal that has hair, fur, or wool that make it susceptible to being caught by brambles. Brambles did not evolve to kill sheep.
Had me thinking about it logically.
"Stand there patently waiting too die"
Sounds like a highschool
DimWinterss sss how about middle school
How about the military
How about human trafficking
Definitely me in high school 😂
LOL
Plant really was like “I mean you guys weren’t gonna eat it and I was hungry “
The humble blackberry: not quite as innocent as you might have thought. :D
Java Jones dude, I swear that I read that as soon as he said it
Same!
Right now it's only small wooly barnyard animals...next it'll be hipsters getting their beards caught as they attempt to steal the fruit from this savage killer.
this needs a ytp
i just did the same that was weird!
That’s the biggest Venus sheep trap I’ve ever seen😲 . Dirty plants get away from me sheep.
FPV FREAKY
Venus is a planet
Massa 10/10 for that one 👍🏽
Massa ever heard of 'venus flytrap'?
Massa I hope you're joking...
Whooooosh
" . . . not quite as innocent as you might have thought" :)
This is the first thing you learn while working with sheep, they just wanna die
😂😂
How does it even catch an animal? Do the vines just move and grab them or somethin'?
@@musahaque2000 the sheep walk into it while eating it.
sheep eat plant, plant grab sheep
@@Boreas- Oh yeah I see, thanks for explainin' it.
So kinda like most of us
People have laughed at me and thought me mad too for saying the very same thing for years. It is obvious to me too.
Thanks for making me feel a little less crazy.
Nope you are still very crazy.
@@974cerebrate found the vegan.
@@974cerebrate veeeeegan?
@@radthadd LMFAOOOOOO YOOO IDK WHY I READ THAT IN SOULJA BOYS VOICE
I thaught I was the only one trying to convince people . Glad to hear my logic being shared thanks for your great vids
I literally expected clickbait, and was surprised when I actually learned something. Thumbs up!
Me too! *high ten
Brilliant insight!!
After seeing how tightly those sheep were trapped, I tend to agree with WayOutWest's theory. Simply fascinating.
+danh5150 It's false.
+El rey No, El Ray, it isn't false. It's a theory based on observation. You can argue against it, and others can judge the arguments and the evidence, but just stating something is false is just silly.
WayOutWest Blowinblog
As silly as stating that something is true without major evidence than a sheep entangled.
+WayOutWest Blowinblog I think it's false too. Or rather, simply inaccurate. There's more evidence to indicate they're not carnivorous than evidence to suggest they are. European blackberries were imported to the USA, and on the farm I grew up on, there was a large bramble hedge. There was a wide array of large wildlife present; raccoons, deer, coyotes, opposum, badgers, even black bears and the occasional mountain lion to name just a few. Not a single animal, not even our large dogs, were caught on this 1.5 mile long hedge. Thus, blackberry brambles couldn't have evolved with species upon which to regularly feed on. Even in the UK only sheep appear to be caught in brambles - NOT the native wildlife. The reason sheep fall prey so often to them is simple: They're domesticated. They're selectively bred to lack survival instincts and to have unnaturally long wool.
+MetalSlugzMaster He stated sheared lambs don't get caught, only the thick coated ones do. Can you state any animals on your list that have a curly coat of wool? There might not be those kinds of animals in USA because the bramble killed them all!
Sheep: cool, a source of food
Plant: right back at ya buckaroo
Solution: Clear the hanging brush around your fence line. Problem completely solved.
11/10 expected the sheep to get eaten alive but this its still pretty good
AuroYugen lol
吸う Tofu if it can do that, then we humans would be an epic food source for them.
immobile predator wont pose much challenge for human..
the bigger the threat ....there more human wants to hunt them down.
ikr
Your voice is so satisfying, if that's even possible
False. It's not possible to be satisfied by someones voice.
curtsher11 Ever heard about ASMR?
Sam Eijkenboom You called?
That's It ikr
That's It it's called asmr
plant: *catches sheep*
sheep: "guess i'll die"
I want to take the time to comment on this upload to thank you for a really interesting and very professionally made video. So informative and you have a wonderful way of speaking clearly, intelligently and simultaneously sincerely about your subject, something about which you obviously care and know deeply. Consider me a subscriber.
This might just be one of the most polite commenter ever
But he's wrong. Brambles have no fitness advantage in consuming the remains of animals and have no digestive enzymes, AND does not rely on capturing and killing animals for nutrients. So sure, it's a good-looking video with an earnest attempt at making an argument. But he's wrong.
coming from a murderous, soulless, polydactyl, magical man-child, that's pretty nice.
@@corcon6976Actually he’s not wrong. The animal decomposing underneath it would enrich the soil and increase its nitrogen content making the soil more fertile. The plant would directly benefit from the nutrients.
You make a good argument here, I'm inclined to believe your theory.
doesn't really fit though. www.sarracenia.com/faq/faq1260.html
in order for it to evolve as carnivorous it must somehow benefit directly in reproductive fitness and it would maximize this especially if competing with other animals/plants. It survives perfectly fine without eating sheep but not fine if the sheep (or other animals) eat it- suggesting more of a defense than anything.
But why waste effort trying to evolve to fend off an attacker, when you can evolve in a more efficient way to consume the attacker without any more effort... That's my logic at least, doesn't mean you're wrong at all. Just what I think.
Natey 180- it's pretty enticing to think about it like that but you have to remember evolution is all about reproduction. Lots of plants (I mean LOTS) have defensive measures without a shred of carnivorousness, thus it's not as energy inefficient as you may think. Besides, the story that it's carnivorous falls apart when you realize sheep with fluffy wool are primarily a human invention, the sheep could be eaten by a million other things before eaten by the plant, and the plant has pretty much none of the hallmarks of an actual plant evolved to be carnivorous (that is, reproduced based on the selective pressure for carnivorousness). So all in all, the evidence heavily suggests it's not carnivorous. Totally OK to explore the carnivorous angle though, as long as we don't put what we think is true over what actually is true.
That's a very fair point. I have no knowledge at all on sheep as well for that matter, are you suggesting they didn't always have such wooly coats? Or is there a bit more to it? I literally have no idea.
There is definitely much more to be explored in its direction in evolution. Hanging on to one fact about it and claiming it means this specifically would be... not naive but maybe wishfully ignorant, regardless of if it is the right.
I kinda think though that it's already put the effort into evolving thorns. Maybe it started as defense and continued to evolve into something a bit more.
Would it also be possible at all that (not sure if this happens in nature) it crossbred with another plant with thorns and held onto what it was freely given? Probably not, but even if it's not possible, the fact it can be considered also reminds me (and hopefully others) that there are many things to think about that are greatly outside of the box and known playing field.
I feel like plants are harder to figure out than animals when it comes to evolution. Maybe I just get animals more than plants. But Animals just seem to be less mysterious as you can force situations to figure certain things out. And watching them is a little more responsive.
Natey- so here's a quick explanation of the sheep thing that I think does a good job: www.quora.com/If-a-sheep-needs-to-be-sheared-every-12-months-or-suffer-detrimental-health-effects-how-did-wild-sheep-exist-before-domestication-Was-their-fleece-different
As for the thorns and crossbreeding, that's a good question. Lots of surprising things happen in biology that we may never have thought of so you're totally right that we should not be afraid to think outside of the box. But I would just add that while we can think outside the box, we should try to avoid leaping outside of the data. If the plant has thorns and you want to follow the hypothesis that it is carnivorous, that's great but make sure you can make biologically relevant predictions that can be proven false like "if carnivorous, then evolved other mechanisms to ensure nutrient gain that directly leads to increased reproduction" (just as an example). So yes, it's possible but I would make a hypothesis that if it happened we can find out by looking at the genetic data and finding out when and how or whether that is highly likely/unlikely.
Cool to see someone else interested in biology and asking good questions!
Actual footage of Abraham finding a substitute for Isaac
🤣💀💀 na this sent me
@@desiree7633 😐😐
@@yasbae4165 it was Isaac. Its in the "binding of Issac" narrative. YhWh orders Abraham to offer up his closest son Isaac, and just as he does upon the altar he was essentially told it was a test. Then Abraham found the ram caught in the bramble. Then both Abraham and Isaac sacrifice the ram as a burnt offering.
Ishmael did not have any part in this narrative. Which is called "the binding of Isaac" for a reason.
read another book
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Great Logic behind your theory
Wow Every day I find some amazing story on the internet and this is just amazing!!!!
Debbie Parzych here you have one of the most important ones, the earth is flat, and God exists, and both can be proven.
not true Jebus my boy...but thanks for perpetuating at least ONE known myth (flat earth) and attempting to perpetuate what is highly like another (a God existing) due to lack of any evidence
the proof of your god is the same proof i have for Unicorns...its just simply "beleive because i tell you to" ....thers no REASON to beleive, and outside you CLAIMING it, there is no actual evidence or proof which makes for quite the dubious claim
im aware you religious types like to be desperatly looking for reasons why you are alive, because you cant just accept that you are a human, and that humans arent really all that special in the bigger picture of the universe
but such desperate searching is both silly and a complete waste of perfectly good time, you could spend that time better, like feeding the homeless and helping the needy, volunteering to clean up trash in your community, and probably the biggest time-saver: not trying to convince people on the internet of your ancient mythology that doesnt hold up under modern logical or scientific scrutiny
you say god exists and the world is flat...well im game, prove it to me! your making that claim so its up to you to prove it! ill wait and ill listen but i guarantee you wont say or do anything i havent heard 1000 times before but im at least fair enough to give you the opportunity
A sheep gets tangled up in foliage and now the world thinks we got plants who catch and kill sheep! Stay in school kids
+Username Not Found a very simple yet effective way to put it!
Even Jesus knew the Earth was round. That was discovered long before Jesus was born.
A+ narrator.
So basically this is what parenting feels like.
I fell asleep on my living room floor barefoot while my kids were playing Legos.... I was trapped for 3 days
I don't know how I ended up here, I'm just glad I did.
Saw some cute sheep and learned that brambles are bloodthirsty killers.
Figures tho, even as a kid I could never stand these plants exactly because of their backward facing thorns.
Well it's how nature works. :)
You need to narrate for BBC Earth. Perfect voice and diction.
firmly grasp it I am
great episode of spongebob... "FIRMLY GRASP IT!!!"
Steve Trini I know right? His accent is just beautiful!
Steve Trini He sounds too girly
Sound observations & logically this is a good arguement imo. A passive predatory plant, less elaborate & obvious as a pitcher plant but potentially deadly to any mid to large size animal caught. The benefit would be huge, the ease of which an animal can be caught & the angled spines make for a good arguement.
Those things have snagged me up rather well on more than a few occasions. Of course, I have hands, tools, and a pretty big brain so I can escape with their luring delicious berries. I do suggest against leaping into a bunch of them in short and a t-shirt. I did that once. I regretted it. Don't ask me why I did it.
Mark R because our big brains still like berries🙂
A transgender man went to a male prison he claims he got raped 2000 times
DangerMouSe I can’t remember which ones, but I think there’s some evidence that some other common plants are also carnivorous
There's a plant I discovered that thorn wise makes the black berry vine look tame. Its the contorted version of poncirus trifoliata or the flying dragon bitter orange. The normal bitter orange has inch long thorns but the flying dragon has inch long hooks that are so friggin sharp if you some got entangled in it you would probably die from lose of blood. Blackberries are bad but this small beautiful citrus tree has got to be deadly for anyone or thing that may accidentally get caught in it
it makes a strange kind of sense. its not something one would expect at first glance.
Fascinating definition of carnivorous. Thanks a million for the perspective.
I love his voice and his explanation
Even tho this plant may not have digestive acids that put the sheep directly into the plant, I find it totally believable that a plant can adapt to trap and kill things around it to create fertile soil for itself. Having rotting animal corpses surrounding a plant would be VERY beneficial in the right circumstances, creating tons of nutrients to go right into the soil for the roots. Seems like a very balanced, natural feeding system for the entire ecosystem
+Al Capone sounds like intelligent design to me.
commenter78 Was that sarcasm? I really hope so. What does intelligent design have to do with this plant? It adapted overtime to survive more when it happened to lure in and kill more animals. These dead animals provided nutrients, thus causing the plants that "kill" the sheep to survive more and breed more. Fast forward a few million years and you have a plant that murders sheep
Al Capone the invisible guy in the sky of the intelligent design and the magical primordial soup of the evolutionary theory are similarly logical. but i think it would have been more logical if a car naturally evolved over millions of years to become a car out of the soup than the infinitesimally complex animal organisms. our existence doesnt make much sense.
Eli G invisible guy in sky may be alien scientists. it is easy to imagine that if human technological advancement keeps its present rate of advancement in a couple thousand years it will be able to design whole ecosystems and creatures from scratch. i mean currently it is starting to happen with genetic modified organisms. so intelligent design is a very possible origin of life on earth.
Eli G Actually if you look deeper into it, you could build an argument for humans being "designed" and not fitting in with all other earth creatures. From our DNA, body design, brains, everything. I dont believe in a religious god at all, but I believe the best two theories for humans is random occurrence and evolution, or some "super aliens" designing us for one of many different reasons.
I’m really in trouble if I can’t tell whether a video about a carnivorous blackberry bush is serious or not.
It is.
The plant just traps them it can't actually kill them it just waits for it to die then get its nutrients from the ground
@@banditdoggo Lmfaoo
@@banditdoggo Idk if I trapped you in my basement until you died of dehydration, I think most courts around the world would agree that I directly "killed" you, no?
That's a real shepherd there.
Paragon commander shepherd always saves his crew.
dear vegans,your food is eating my food
Vegans don't eat carnivorous plants, because they're non-vegan. They only eat herbivorous plants lol
a green plant by any other name still wants to eat a sheep. and what the heck is a 'herbivorous' plant,FAITH? I thought the sheep was
@alphaxard1 there is actually some plants that do indeed "kill" other plants. Sometimes you see some plants wrap themselves around others like a tree "suffocating it" and taking it's sunshine :C
:x I'm bad with words.
Rom Kin they are called vines
alphaxard1 It isn't just vines :x
he sounds like Salad Fingers before he went insane
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LOL YES
Joker Deadman Speaking of salad fingers has David firth released any new weird shit yet? He did a tour or something but hasn't uploaded any sketches in ages
Joker Deadman was just about to say this
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0:35 such a pleasant way of describing animals just giving up and dying.
This looks like something from a horror movie. I was not aware at all of the existence of these plants.
They are everywhere in Australia they eating our bushland up, blocking sun and nutrients for native species. They are killers
Mandela Effect welcome to your new world
wow must be some variety of blackberry then. I have all sorts of blackberry bushes at my house, raspberries too and i don't recall them having deep interconnected root systems. Cause dad dug up a number of my bushes. Rolling the stems out of the dirt. Cause older brother wanted to plant potatoes at are house and decided to plant under the tree line too. And then didn't even plant and they didn't grow back.
Because they are fake.
ferna2294 brambles? They are everywhere where I live .😬
Damn this guy sounds like Ramsay Bolton.
Samuel Hoh haha That was this first thing I thought too!
The Boltons took back Winterfell when those naiive starks lost it. put some respeck on their name boi
Samuel Hoh Exactly what I thought!!
"Ahhhhh *evil smile* Anotha sheep caught by the merciless brambles....let's have a look shall we? Oooo I'll snip this one, and maybe even that one.....but I get such pleasure seeing you struggle Mr.Sheep ...I think your new name shall be ....... REEK. yessssssss dance for me REEK muah HAH HAHAHAaaaa
His voice reminded me of Francis in the channel Cooking with dog. But with slightly better English.
Even plants crave delicious lamb. Checkmate, vegans.
MODERN / FROGGY
if the astronaut didnt want us to eat meat , then explain why leave animals with a MANDITORY MEAT CONSUMPTION on the planet :)
( cats and dogs )
Hint: the plant has no brain
wow, so witty
Vegans who try to convert people are just as bad as religious nutsacks who do the same. I truly believe in, and wish to be fully vegan, but I am too addicted to salt and fat and oil. I will break it someday. Keep your finger in your own girlfriend I always say.
Hahahaha what a shout
That’s honestly a really good hypothesis on the evolution of ‘Brambles.’ It convinces me at least :) Now I wouldn’t say they are technically carnivores since they do not actually digest the meat, but I do believe they gained the trait to trap animals and gain nutrients from their decomposition! Really interesting idea! Love it!
If anything, they're kind of like fungi when you think about it.
The sheep are just getting stuck in some brambles. The biggest carnivorous plant can only eat mice and frogs. Complete FAIL!
You obviously didn't watch the video.
Pink Poison or read your comment... honestly I think the entire concept and theory went right over his head
I'm not even into botany and all but I loved this video because he has an extremely good point and a well though theory with sharp arguments.
It feels like he got antagonized by someone when he first came up with this idea and it really fed him into finding more evidence to prove it beyond ordinary doubt.
puntastic.
Marcos Gomes I find interesting to explore the margines of a definition or classification, and the biopolitics and exclusion estructure of science, and hence, language. And at the end, as Agambem express, the beauty of ideas.
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okay you shouldn't be using words with more characters than your IQ m8
and the plant doesn't gain any nutrients from the animal therefore calling it carnivourous is wrong, we classify things as such for a reason. By his logic any plant which has a way of using spines to deter predators is carnivourous (which it isn't)
charlie ward how is he...
I get what you're saying. The plant is very close to being a carnivore, but it just does not ingest the material of the animal like a carnivore does. Instead it relies on the natural decomposition of the animal, or other organisms to do the work for it. This is a lot different than an organism having the means to decompose and extract the nutrients of something by itself. Personally I'm in favor of adding a new classification for these kinds of organisms that can catch and kill, but do not directly consume other animals.
This is a very interesting video nonetheless! I've never thought of these kinds of plants in this way before.
Its a good start though. Its easy to imagine how a few hundred million years of evolution would shape it into being an actual carnivorous plant.
Some Guy so?
I'd call them Predatory Plants. Has a better ring to it, eh?
Denis Lipatnikov evolution is completely false
Evolution is a fact, a fact that has been accepted by the scientists as a pillar of biological study. If you have the evidence and proof that it's wrong, please show us your Nobel and accredited scientific papers. Please display your ignorance for everyone to laugh at.
While studying horticulture the question "what is your favourite plant?" often came up. I always said the one I admire most was the Blackberry, not that I like them, just that they are so resilient, so well designed. Now I'm even more impressed!
Do you believe in God?
They're not strictly carnivorous. But you could argue they're protocarnivoros. They cannot directly digest protein from the animal instead relying on the carcass to rot and provide the nutrients. However this is NOT a primary source of food meaning you'd be hard pressed to call them carnivores.
how about omnivores?
scavenger?
he means they are getting food via photosynthesis, so obviously they're are not an actual carnivorous plant. Big difference between us surviving on rice. It's a plant, it turn energy from the sun into its food. The only thing a dead animal seeping into its roots would do is provide fertilizer for it, but it could not survive on that fertilizer alone.
+Lusifer Sofia No you can't live on just bread or rice.
You can live like that, but you'd be extremely weak which isn't ideal in the wild. you need energy to hunt, walk and think properly.
makes sense, it's the effect of evolution, one generation of plant mutated and grew its thorns backward and due to the fact it "trapped animals" gave it an advantage and it became dominant over the years, this plant isn't necessarily "carnivorous" the way we usually encounter this word, it doesn't hunt, but it does trap and "eat" animals by using their bodies as a catalyst/boost to the plant, didn't expect that, i did sneer at this upon first hearing it but it makes sense
Id wait to see if its observed among the wildlife--sheep were domesticated for, among many things, theyre wool. Perhaps its the sheeps wool causing their entanglement.
Yes but sheep and brambles are as old as Jesus so they probably evolved together and as he said, sheep still die from getting trapped in those bushes. Like it or not, being able to trap nutritious cadavers is always an advantage in nature so I'm gullible to believe that brambles actually evolved with these hooks for a reason rather than just by accident.
I've heard bob wire are a very carnivorous fence
barbed
Country people have always called it "bobwire".
I've never heard a single person ever call barbed wire bobwire.... and I'm as country as they come.
I have, my dad and his family are very country and my dad calls it bobwire.. but we're also from the south too.. so we technically mispronounce everything anyway.
Andrew Mellan
I don't know what "country" part you are from, but it was and is still called "bobwire" by country folk.
Plant: *eats sheep
Sheep: *eats plant
Human has entered the chat
Plant and sheep: *nervous sweating
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if u pat sheep do he bite
if the sheep have a liking towards you,no they shouldn't,but it varies when sheep may like you enough
Generally sheep are pretty docile animals. But like any animal, you piss it off, it'll probably try to take a chuck out of you. heh
Rams can be grumpy and some headbutt, especially if ewes are in season. The big breeds can be dangerous.
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yes
As a biologist, I can tell you that's actually a great theory :)
Yeah right if you were a biologist you wouldn't accept that this plant is carnivorus.
Oken111
same here! leading ideas associated with both ecology and evolution.
nice post!
@Wolfexer:
The OP's proposition is biologically and evolutionarily sound. There are a species of plants that grow in Bogs and swamps in the US called "Sundew" plants. They have long flat leaves covered with a sticky resin-like sap that smells very sweet.
Insects and even small vertebrates in larger species are drawn to the sap, and when they touch it, they're stuck. The leaves then curl up and cover the prey in even more dew which starts the breakdown process. The nutrients from the digestion of the prey, as well as the nutrients its corpse might provide, are taken in and the plant propagate. Thanks to its carnivorous diet, it can tolerate poor soil conditions and low sunlight; things that occur in the habitat in which the Sundew thrives.
Look at the similarities here.
The bramble is hearty, meaning it can tolerate "eating" slowly, and go longer periods without food, accounting for the fact that the proposed "prey" item here is medium sized mammals, which are strong and weary. To account for size and strength, the brambles are thick and woody, and grow tall.
Secondly, they grow two forms of a sweet sugar-rich grazing item that many mammals would be attracted to, Blackberries, and pollen. Sheep are the obvious example, but many other older mammals had very thick fur, and would be just as susceptible to being snared. His "Woolly Rhino" suggestion is a perfect example.
The reverse facing thorns are the most appreciable aspect of the proposition. There is zero reason, from an evolutionary standpoint to grow thorns that face backwards unless they were growing to let things in, but not out. Sure, a wolf or wild boar might be able to nestle into a bramble, but the thorns themselves serve as a painful negative stimulus, which could trap smaller mammals inside despite the fact that they have no thick for or wool to get tangled in the thorns.
And finally, the more you struggle or move, the more you get stuck, or the more likely you get caught, and that is a defining trait of almost every other species of carnivorous plant.
As a bio chemo physio doctor scientific philosopher, Your theory is very thought good :).
You don't need to be a biologist to see that it's a theory. It is not a fact like the guy in the video makes it out to be though, which gives this video a dislike for providing false information.
How did you get Ramsay Bolton to do the voiceover?
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Funny rafael!!! :D
My first thought aswell!
It does tho
rafael lewis sounds just like him!!!
I have been looking a lot at thorned plants lately because of this. I wonder if all the rose family have this adaptation... was looking at some tea roses the other day - vicious great thorns on it and all facing backwards to permit some inward access to the stems but resist drawing back out again.The thorns even have an asymmetrical form which gives a buttress re-enforcement against forces acting in the outwards direction... looks very sus
They defiantly didn't teach us everything in school. lol stay woke !
Maybe they're there so it hurts to eat them and they won't get eaten, sometimes you can't teach people
@@flutedscissors9655 Not really. If the plan was to repel & discourage Browsers, the barbs would grow outward & away from the plant in a defensive posture. Inward facing thorns face that way for one purpose - to draw inward.
@@bobbofly if you get stuck in the rose bush it'll hurt like a bitch and then you won't want to go near roses again, if you eat a thorn it'll also hurt. Just cause it happens to face a way doesn't mean it isn't for whatever purpose
@@flutedscissors9655 I don't think this idea for the thorns' applications apply in the the smaller plants because the smaller plants aren't big enough to catch something with the type of hair that would get entangled like a sheep's would.
your voice is relaxing
Naoum Chaimaa oh my gay
ikr!!
John eckleston i have no interest in such business
He sounds like a granpa I never had.
ASMR my dude
Anyone who has ever worked in the wood business or who have picked blackberries knows from painful experience the very scary ability of thorns to hold what they catch. It always feels like it's out to get you.
And they like to sprawl across logging roads hoping to snare an unfortunate animal.
I am a berry picker, my favorite berries are black raspberries because of the flavor and the bushes don’t tend to get as large as blackberry bushes ...however after watching this I have a new respect for blackberry bushes
Rose Lee, are you going to share with the class? Those tricks might be useful.
I identify as that plant and I'm offended that you cut its arms off!
XD
I identify with your offended feelings! Someone should sacrifice a lamb to the bramble god!
I agree I identify as grass and feel the pain of humans every day
Eric Davis Lay for behold he, who is trodden into the dirty daily... behold he who is eaten alive every day! behold he whoes seed is swon to be butured by the season under an ever mowing blade!?!?!? ...let-him-have-his-vengance-upon-us... FOR IT IS JUST!!! @ _ @
The Dark master xD
i thought the plant was goint to devour the sheep like sucking blood through thorns😂
I had no clue that blackberry's came from brambles or that they killed animals.Thanks for this.
Leafgreen1976 I might go out and kill a lot of bramble babies.. blackberry eating spree! Lol
hahaha
WonkaaVision I wanted to make the same joke. My nigga! :D
Interesting, I'm in college and a little more than halfway to earning my masters degree in zoology and biology.And I've never seen or heard of anything like this before. Thank you for uploading this, perhaps I'll show it to my professors and see what they think.
Leopardus jacobita any chance you have an update for us? I am very interested in the opinion of a professional zoologist on this idea. I have a feeling that many others are also interested too.
Leopardus jacobita I am also interested in what your professors think about this ^-^
He's busy trying to remove them from the brambles.
G0Chiefs he might have gotten trapped along with his professors in the brambles xD
Tragic Lynx
They'd tell you it's definitely not a carnivorous plant. One is that bramble does not have any means of directly digesting the sheep and would rely on outside processes for nutrients to reach its roots. It also does not have any specialized means of obtaining the nutrients from the prey. Therefore bramble cannot be a carnivorous plant.
It could be classified as a protocarnivorous plant, but that too seems highly suspect. First, sheep are a domesticated animal and have only existed for a short period of time. It is also the quality that we have selected for, the wool, that is causing the problem. It's almost certain that the anti-herbivorous defence mechanism the plant is employing is just too effective for sheep. This doesn't make them carnivorous or even proto. We'd have to establish that they benefit from the such action (which any benefit being unlikely significant, as I have tons of wild blackberries growing in my fields and have never come across a dead ungulate in them. And trust me, if they were there I would know as I breed Dalmatians and Weimaraners and they'd sniff them out so fast it wouldn't even be funny). Rotting carcasses in the bramble could actually hurt the plant being exposed to too much nutrients in fact. You should classify this one as extremely unlikely.
Damn nature.. what else you hiding from us?
the truth
Zach Van Harris JR ass
Aids n stuff ;(
To those who are saying this isn't a carnivorous plant: There is a youtube video floating around that came out recently about an archaeological dig. In it they are digging up a mass grave from WW2. They were pulling skulls out of the ground and some of the skulls were broken, with roots coming out of the eye sockets and neck, so they opened a skull to reveal that roots had taken the place of brain matter a long time ago. They removed an entire chunk of roots that literally was the shape of a brain. Other videos showing experiments floating around buried animal carcasses at the base of trees and came back later to discover the roots had grown in the exact shape of the carcass when the animal was later dug-- they only found roots in the shape of the body, and the bones were gone. Plants will benefit from carcasses. Certain types of plants, the ones that can produce salicylates, are highy toxic to animals as well, and the chemicals are produced as anti-animal toxins specifically. Bonemeal is a soil amendment for growing vegetables for a reason; plants benefit from it, and some plants have adapted to take advantage of it. Not every carnivorous plant is one that eats flies.
What Is the name of the Video?