Let Me Expose The Unspoken Truth On Karate "KIME"
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This is excellent. I was a Karateka for many years earlier in life, becoming a Nidan. I transitioned to Gong Fu about 25 years ago. Hardest thing for me was to change the way I used my energy…from the “kime lock down “ force to a relaxed flowing energy that exits only at the end…which is just what you are talking about. What you say here is very useful and insightful. Thank you.
I'm glad you liked it;
I feel like you just answered a question that I did not know how to phrase properly. Thank you for this!
No worries!
Very innovative way of teaching the physical feeling of transmitting energy. I haven't seen something like that in 30 years of practice. Oss!
I can also offer another way to explain this and how it makes your strikes more “impactful” or feel “heavier”. When we strike, we are creating a kinetic chain starting at our base and rolling through the links of that chain out of our striking weapon into our target. Two negative effects are happening by staying rigid during this process.
First, at every point there is flexibility (in our case the joints) it requires energy to stabilize that link in the kinetic chain, this is energy that is not being transferred into your target. So the more rigid you are trying to remain the weaker the final output during this process of transferring energy.
Second, when two objects collide and energy is being transferred from one object to the other and due to the physics involved there is a type of bounce back as the energy seeks to balance it self between moving (the strike) and unmoving (the target). The more rigid you are the further the energy can travel back into you to resolve this balance. By relaxing, the energy will only flow as far as the rigidity and contact that is maintained before bouncing back into your target. So by remaining relaxed and loose while striking, the resulting impact feels heavier and the effect is more explosive.
A good way to experience this effect is to take a hammer and first grip it as tightly as possible and then using all of your strength hit a brick with it, then do it again only this time gripping the hammer enough to maintain control but letting the hammer’s weight do most of the work. Or swing a two foot wood dowel at a solid target and then put a pool ball or a snooker ball into a gym sock and swing that at the same target.
Great having you back!
Thank you! This is a fantastic concept.
Yes. Being fluid with techniques is best when working and applying them. Thanks for this, Yusuke
A brilliant explanation; thanks!
As someone starting all over on my karate journey where I left off 30 years ago, now at age 42 - this information is invaluable to help me get the correct technique and "meaning" behind the things I'm learning. Thank you!
Nice. I love it. I can’t wait to give this a try. God bless.
Excellent lesson! Thank you for sharing.
Thank you!
Cool tutorial! Good to see that you are still making these.
Thank you!
You have a gift for illustrating and breaking down a technique that makes it easier to understand. Thank you!
Haha thanks!
Interesting. Thank you!
Great advice. Good seeing ur back.
Thanks!
Thank you! That was super helpful.
Thanks!
Interesting concept, thanks!
Thank you!
Great explanation of a very difficult concept to grasp. Good to see you back Sensei with you great insights into becoming really good at Karate.
Thanks for the warm welcome!
Kime, comes from the word kimeru, if I'm not wrong. It means "decide" or "to conclude".
Kime means focus of power.
This doesnt mean we have to be in tension. To understand that we must be relaxed maybe we should start talking about CHinkuchi, and would take us to talk about shoshin, fudoshin, zanshin and mushin.
That means we need to unite Mind, Body and Spirit.
This is why karate is not only karate jutsu.
Great video! would be great to follow-up one explaining blocks!
Cool! This is what Rick Hotton refers to as "relaxed heaviness". Combine with dropping into your stance for added effect.
The dropping into stance is the same concept but different technique like the Dempsey Roll.
Thanks for the insight!
@@KarateDojowaKu no, thank you! That bottle was genius to explain the concept of inertia in punching!
What a great way to explain this!
Thank you!
excellent demonstration
Thanks!
Great sir. Please keep it up.👍
Thanks!
Your demonstration was great, the difference in power when starting with a relaxed body can be dramatic. Great video!
Thank you! It really helps when you hold the bottle in your hand, so I suggest you give it a try!
I like that feeling of controlled momentum in my punches; using the looseness and some bounce keeps everything loose, yet controlled for balance. Thank you! ❤
Loose yet controlled! I love the way you phrased that!
@@KarateDojowaKu I had done martial arts in all capacities from ages 12 to 46, had to stop because everything is polluted with MMA.
This discipline is really important to maintain stability. Thank You Dojo Waku for hinting the tips! 👍
Thanks!
I am glad that Shotokan practitioners like Mr. Nagano above have discovered this "secret" even as late as now. This has been taught for over 80 years now already in the authentic Wado-Ryu style as promoted by the founder Master Hironori Otsuka !
Great!
Very interesting concept! Relaxed heaviness is the key to proper martial acceleration.
I agree!
I think this is kind of what the Makiwara and heavy bag work can teach if you listen to the feedback of the training tool. I know in the decades of Shotokan practice I've done, doing kihon in air for so long, it was quite an adjustment to hit something with resistance. First, point of impact is all wrong. In class we stop techniques just short of the opponents chin, or whatever. In practice, you're aiming that finish point at more of the back of their skull past their chin. So timing and distance is way off from kihon and kumite in class, vs. real application. Same with body, you aren't hitting the surface, your mindset needs to be hitting deep inside their body. The heavy bag is good for feeling the effectiveness of that penetrating power. The makiwara is good for knowing how much power you impart through a hard surface (ribs, etc) to the point beyond (liver, diaphragm, etc).
With that being said, the "focus" point where your muscles finally go from relaxed to fully tense for an instant is quite different. If you are hitting a soft target, or wanting to spin a head to KO an opponent, you are hitting "past" the point of impact. If you are trying to impart force past a hard object, such as a rib, to damage inside, then the point of impact is very sharply at that hard object. (E.g. difference between heavy bag vs. makiwara; soft target vs. hard target).
Opponents also aren't stationary! So you must stay fully relaxed during the technique to guide it home because the opponent isn't going to stand still for you. If you focus terminate your technique at a specific point in space where the opponent no longer is, they will open you up! Ippon kumite can train bad habits in this fashion, unless the attacking side is reminded to continue tracking their opponent when they shift position.
Domo! good information, Osu!
Great explanation!
Great video, great advice!
Thanx a ton for reminding me of something that our Sensei used to try & drill into us when l was beginner almost 50 years ago.
I still practice (independantly) in a dojo; will use the bottle technique to remind myself of the effect of keeping relaxed & calm.
Thank you once again.
I hope you enjoy!
Awesome video, Sensei! 🥋 He dives into these crucial topics during his online live class, making it a must for anyone interested in martial arts!
Thank you Sam!
Have missed you. Glad to have you back.
Thanks!
Just what I needed when I needed it! 感謝致す。
Glad it came at the right timing!
@@KarateDojowaKuhey sensei how old you
This is the core principle of Wado Ryu Karate. Which differs from the other styles of Karate.
Ohtsuka Sensei was brilliant. He applied his Jujutsu sense, and blended with karate techniques and created the system called Wado.
We called it as 'Nukeru".
Thanks for sharing Waku Sensei!
Peace and harmony,
Sensei Maharaj 😊
Thank you Sir! OSU!
I just watched dojo etiquettes. One of your first videos. You did an awesome job in that short time!
Thank you!
Great explanation and I think it gives you the right feel. Kyusho and Systema work with those same concepts of relaxation, and it's nice to see karate returning to its roots. :-)
That is one of the best explanations.I'm throwing a good punch that i've ever heard. The mechanics are slightly different for boxing but same principle. I've heard a lot of coaches.Will there be online or in person But I've never heard one explain it like that. I've to pass this video along to some coaches I know.
Thank you!!!
due to disability i have to be looser and slower anyway. i wish you were coming to Aberdeen in Scotland
Very interesting video. I'm really struggling to find the "power" in kime. But after watching your waterbottle-example I feel like I could do better. Thank you ^^
It's more about letting go of your power! Let me know how it goes!
@@KarateDojowaKuHey Sensei I Am Your Big Fan Shotokan Karate Is Best Karate And Martial Arts In World
Seems like a good way to save energy, but it may also take a toll on the joints. Feels like a good option for more seasoned practicioners to experiment, since the joints are kinda "reinforced" already.
As long as you align your bones, you don't need to put any additional power :)
Good video
Whenever I punch, or block, I have my body completely relaxed and in balance over my feet. I rotate my hips and let my torso and arms to get dragged by their rotation and when I'm about to complete the punch/block, at the very last moment I give a slight counter-movement with my hips. This makes flex almost every muscle that I have, it's like becoming a tower for a very small moment. Then, I return to be completely relaxed. What do you think? Is this Kime?
This can apply to Gung Fu people too 😳Thanks, Sensei 😬
This is a very interesting way to demonstrate kime. It’s also nice that you can also drink your equipment once you are done with your training!
A famous martial artist once said, "be water, my friend."
Good point
Thank you!
Super interesting! Is there a way to make a video to prove that?
Thanks for the explanation. I have a comment. I have trained for a long time in shotokan and then shitoryu- about 20 years now, and I have an input from my insignificant experience. Humbly- from my learning from teachers,
Kime is best expressed only at the moment of impact. So I was taught one has to be loose at the beginning and the duration of execution of the technique and super tight and strong for an instant at the end of the technique.
That achieves both the purposes - to be fluid and fast, and to be most impactful. Needless to say- behind that punch is the weight of the hips coming around, not necessarily too tight at the end.
Hard to explain I think, best comes from practice.
This video it’s a bit confusing. Of course you gotta be relaxed thru the punch. But at the end you have to tighten everything so that your punch has the power to do damage and you don’t break your hand.
I regularly assist with teaching the kids at my dojo. I will try the bottle experiment how you describe it.
So far when people have a 'stiff' technique, i will tell to imagine at the end of the motion a tennis ball has to be released, which has to fly as fast as possible.
Your fluidity explanation seems to be more elegant or precise. 😎
Good Idea. I would picture something a bit heavier than a tennis ball since it's hard to realize the weight of a light tennis ball!
This is actually a really good explanation. I need to show this to my husband - he is massive, really strong and really powerful, but he is stiff AF and doesn't get the ... liquidity of the karate motion and the power of the final moment. Granted, his hammerfall would kill three normal people, but he has no elegance, no grace to his movement. Thank you!
*Mindblown*
Thanks!
Hey Sensei I Am Your Big Fan
Thank you!
And we ARE 75% water...makes sense. Be water my friend.
He is dwn there, you can see it shaking 😋🤭
We call it balistic strikes
Incredible!!! Thank you, @KarateDojoWaku.
I have a question, though. Why does this mean that we don't need Kime? You can be released through the punch and still issue Kime, right?
I believe the point you made is that we need to be more released, but not that the ending of the punch isn't articulate.
I suggest you watch the next video!
@@KarateDojowaKu - I watched it now. I think It's a little clearer now. Looking fwd to the following videos in the series. Thank you for your content!!!
Relaxing body before the impact is necessary to get higher speed and maximum power but at the moment of the impact you must tight your body to transmit the kinetic energy to the target. I would like see you proving your point on the makiwara not on the "air".
Ever looked at 'Karate Do Shotokai' KDS Karate as tought by the late Mitsusuke Harada MBE ? 5th awaded by Genchin Funikoshi. We do not practice Kime in Kata or in our techneques.
An interesting try to make the concept of "heavy hand" visible. Though in my experience after over 35. years in Shotokan, just stop hitting air. Use focus mitts or heavy bag instead just like all other fighting arts on this planets do. At the end a Zuki is plain physics. F = m*a, nothing more, nothing less. That means as soon as parts of your body stop to move (which happens because ppl too often hit air and have trained to "capture" their own strikes to prevent injuries), the energy and force starts to drop, no matter how fast you accelerated in the beginning. The "classic" training in Shotokan which often over-emphasizes form and technique leads to a "stiffness", which has no real value especially not for actual fighting in a dynamic situation. The bag gives you all the feedback and it tells you straight, that you actually need "kime" to transfer the energy at the very end or it will injure your wrist (at least it did mine when i started). And sometimes it is far more fun to really hit something ;) You obviously know this, since you got one in your dojo :D
Do you think since we've put such a huge emphasis on the performance of Kata through competition, that maybe we've overused the concept of Kime as a distribution of power?
I agree with you 100%. Competition karate and karate have now become 2 different things.
This sounds like the concept of chinkuchi... sort of. Or, maybe Fa Jing is a better word. Explosive power, where the power is derived from the body (feet-hips-shoulders-fist). Releasing the power of the strike or block, not locking it in or internalizing it in a physical way. I see this in a lot of Uechi practitioners.
I think we're talking about the same thing! "Not locking" is the key most people seem to be confused about.
Please Sensei, come to India as well. I hope you'll feel good teaching other Karatekas...
Your first demonstration still looks better to me than the so-called "relaxed" version.
The first demonstration looked already relaxed to me; the "relaxed" version looked wa~y too loose.
I think, the best way to test this is doing Tameshiwari. How many boards can you break with either version? Or may be try a punching machine.
I wish I can let you feel the difference😂 Please try out the exercise and compare. I am sure you'll feel it!
Very good kimosabbee.
U made me think of what a root worker showed me.
If you take a spoon, hold the tip between forefinger and thumb, then move the back of the spoon, the round part, to running water, as from the kitchen spigot, it should deflect out like you'd think. But, if a spirit is near, you'll feel the spirit push the spoon into the flow of water. Which so many have spirits nearby and they never even know it.
I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing, but thanks for your insight!
That sprit's name? Coandă effect: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coandă_effect
@@RimantasLiubertas yep same thing that makes a plane fly, makes a carburetor atomize gas, but through acceleration of air through ventury.
@@KarateDojowaKu 🙂🙂🙂🙂, just some humor. Your example was great.
@@RimantasLiubertas Bernoullis law applies too.
Where the spirits create a low pressure high velocity due to their spirit energies.
Desde Perú...si me comporto como el liquido en la botella entonces mi freno deberia ser el cuerpo que es impactado?, kime deberia de ser entonces al impactar ese cuerpo?... Gracias
What about applying kime only at the end of this movement? Have you tried that? I wonder if this combination might increase the impact
That's how it's done.
could you explain me please: My sensei always thought us, that we must be relax at the beggining technique and during, but for the very small time at the end of it we must do Kime - strengthen all our muslecs wite strong exhale a push our diaphragm to the limits.
Is it the right performance of Karate technique ?
Thank you.
I think you shouldn't perceive the end as a "strengthening". It's more so the feeling I explained in the video that you should be looking for.
What is the correlation between kime and relaxing the muscles untill the last moment? 🤔
I guess I'm doing it wrong, but the notion that I have about this is something about control the tension of the hand and try to relax the arm as much as possibile. The feeling is like a whip, but it requires some caution because this dynamic can be dangerous for the joints, that's why I feel I'm doing it wrong.
Thank you for this brilliant video! As I'm a beginner I tend to stiffen up and get very tired as a consequence, and thus need constant reminders of these basics. Please keep posting videos like this! Thank you Sensei
I hope you enjoy the other recent videos too!
Isn't karate punch power is comming from the rotation of the upper body? Some say it's comming from the hips then the rotation of the upper body?
Catching up with Egami Shihan and Shotokai concepts basically.
Oh they mention the same thing too? That's good to know!
aahh i see some Kikuno influence in there
"Be water my friend"
Good idea with asweetvmeadow candle to lala by zuki.
Atobaya my friend. Atobaya.
The move don't stop at the hit, the hit comes before.
That's one way to transfer power. But there's also a snapping power, more suited for head shots because of the heads movement after a blow. Whereas the body will not move backwards as quickly as a head when receiving a blow for which the demonstration you just did is more applicable.
Thanks for your insight! Do you have a video of someone doing that? I'd love to learn it.
@KarateDojowaKu I do not myself. I don't make videos. One of those punching bag dummies with a head would work well. I use a double ended bag a whole lot. That would be great for you to work on to feel the difference. The double ended bag will feel much more like the head. If you punch it they way you just demonstrated, you will feel it's not suited for that target. And the inverse is true, if you snap your punches on the heavy bag which emulates the torso, you will also feel gow that's not very suited for it.
@@sonnystaton I will give it a try! Let me know if you see anything on the internet with that technique!
@KarateDojowaKu
This guy here does it pretty much the way I do it & for the same reasons. He doesn't specifically talk about the snapping, but that is the way he strikes it as you can see. You'll see him land some softer hits in his demo which is more for range finding & accuracy, but then unloads now and again with a harder yet still snapping blow. Both punching & kicking. Which is more realistic when hitting the head.
ruclips.net/video/7-gc5Ek-bys/видео.htmlsi=23uUmmNTpCKNCY9Q
"Muchimi, body like whip or total body snap, is how we can increase energy even when action space and momentum is limited.
Snap your techniques to make sharp shock and maximize power even in short space."
Right, you will get that as a result of doing the drill I explained here.
Great video, thanks a lot. However, the town you are going to see is Wiesbaden, rather than Wiesvaden. I hope you enjoy it anyway ;-)
The water bottle exercise 😁
Yes!
@@KarateDojowaKu I must have held it wrong the last time we did it in London... 😅
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I've felt Kime means focus.
You can of course see it that way, but how you make that focus is the key.
Weapon: Pole/ Whip?! ☯️
I think there is Confusion about what Kime is supposed to represent. I believe its "supposed" to represent, "explosive power" ..through whole body mass unification. What you are describing here, is the Engine to drive the punch... but Kime isnt the Drive itself. Kime is supposed performed at the very END of the strike. Be relaxed during the strike process... and only when your fist/hand/foot makes Solid contact with the OP.. that you quickly Tighten your muscles.
This description, is the highest level striking technology, called "Fajin" (Fahh Jinn), in Chinese Kung Fu. I never used to think that Karate had this... but after learning that Karate originated from Chinese White Crane Kung Fu... I later realized that its very possible that some elder forms of Karate still may have this technology within it.
The bottle example was good. But the Kime in the bottle example... would be if you placed a spring loaded bear trap on the back of the bottle. When the bottle hits a solid target.. the bear trap Snaps shut violently... causing a surge of Vibrational energy. This vibrational energy, is ADDED to the existing mass energy. Sort of like how Hammer-Drills are used to drill through certain materials, that other drills cant easily drill through.
Remaining relaxed though most of the movement... is to be able to drive your arms movements, with mostly the Triceps only. Where as... if you are too tight when you drive your movements.. you are also engaging your Biceps... and that pits Push and Pull muscles against each other. Its like pressing the cars Gas pedal to the floor... while also pressing the Brake pedal 20% down. It vastly reduces the acceleration, and top speed potentials. By locking your muscles through the punch too early.. you get a stronger overall structural strength "along the Entire pathway, of the strike"... but... you lose Acceleration and Speed.. and so, the impact potentials are vastly reduced.
The thing is... most of the time, you dont have to be "Strong" in the beginning, nor middle... of your punches. You know where you need to be firm/strong... and that is at the very END of the strike: "On Impact". It would be very different... if you were trying to push a heavy filing cabinet... starting out with your palms on the cabinets sides. For that motion... you need to be Structurally braced / "Strong" all throughout the entire movement. But thats a Slow Push, not a Strike.
As for the Vibrational Aspect.. Its like Break-Dancing's "Popping and Locking". The ability to instantly tighten all of your loose muscles... to create a powerful Surge of Vibration. A whole body vibration... with all of your mass involved... rather than merely a single limb / muscle group.
I'm not talking about the engine, I'm sharing more so the feeling you have during the impact moment of your punch.
If what I explained in the video is the engine, the power is too small. You use the power from the leg for the engine. I will further explain in my future videos
@@KarateDojowaKu A lot of Karate practitioners, punch with Tension through the entire Pathway. When you are tense, you cant generate the Concentrated / Vibrational forces on Impact.
Ever ride in Bumper Cars? You can simply allow your car to hit another.. But.. if you want a MUCH more powerful hit... as soon as your car makes a strong connection to the other car.. you thrust your own body mass forwards... adding to the impact potentials.
Yes, you Can still have a good impact, without doing that. Just as you can simply remain relaxed through the entire Punching motion... and still deliver a powerful hit. But if you want the Ultimate potentials possible.. then you want to add the Tension Burst at the very End. That end tension, from my understanding.. is supposed to be called "Kime" in Karate.
As for the legs go... it doesnt matter.
I can generate Knockout / Lethal level Fajin forces, while sitting in a Chair, with my legs crossed.
Have you ever seriously tried developing high level "Inch power" ?
In Bruce Lee's older books, he mentions the training behind it. One drill, was to punch a paper-tent, across a table with a gap in it. The other, was to fill a large coffee can with sand / rocks... and to try to Inch-Punch is as far down a long table, as possible.
Long ago... I had seen a tiny "Kime" developing practice bag, in a Martial Arts shop. It was a small 4x4? inch canvas bag, that was supposed to be hung by a chain / rope... and was supposed to be filled with BBs.
I made a much more robust version of that. I got a Chinese canvas Wall-Bag, that you typically fill with Sand, and mount directly to a flat hard wall. I filled it with over $100 worth of steel BBs. It probably weighs like 15 to 20 lbs. Its like 7 inches thick, at its thickest middle section.
I hung it by a single corner (at a diagonal), via a metal Chain (so I could adjust the height).
I started using vertical fist punches on it, from 12 inches away. You remain as relaxed as possible... until the very moment of solid impact... then you quickly tense your body up, for a fraction of a second.
If you do it POORLY... the bad makes a Squishy sound, as the BBs have time to move away from / around your fist. The bag will also swing very far away from your fist.
If you hit it with Fajin energy... It will feel like your fist hit a solid block of Steel. Your knuckles will be Stinging in pain, and will bright red. The bag will not have moved more than 2 or so inches, if at all.
When I first started out, it took like 50 tries, to get this effect, to occur ONCE. I practiced this for 1hr every single night, for like a month or two.
Eventually I got to the point, where I could generate Fajin expression, from 12 inches, every single time, without any failures. At that point, I moved closer... starting my fist at 8 inches away from the bag. At that point... I started having issues. I was generating Fajin, like 1 in every 25 attempts.
Eventually, I mastered Fajin at 8 inches, and moved on to 6. Repeat this process.. until I got down to a Single Inch worth of runway... and I fully mastered that.
At that point, it was easy to generate KO level impacts, from less than 6 inches of runway... and I never needed to use any more than about 15% of what I was capable, to do it.
I tested this successfully, with 4 different disrespectful fighters... via my LEAD guard hands vertical fist to their foreheads. I used less than 6 inches of extension, and I never used more than 15%, to get those KO's.
If you can KO a fighter at 15% at 6 inches... Its not unreasonable to assume, that at FULL power... you only need an inch or two, to cause instant brain damages.
Realize, these punches were done from a STATIC stance. I simply allowed them to Step in range.. and I struck. I never needed to step to add power. I never needed to use Shoulder nor Hip rotation, to add more power. SO like Ive said.. Its more than likely, I could still generate Lethal level potentials, while sitting in a chair.
I forgot to mention the Effect of Fajin on the BB bag. You see... when you are able to funnel your entire body mass energy into it correctly... the BBS dont have the time to be able to move around your fist/kunckles. This causes them to sort of lock together, like a single unit of mass... and thus, its like hitting a solid Steel block.
Slapping water with your hands, is somewhat similar. Water is fluid when you plunge your hands into it slowly... but when you hit it fast.. it can become hard like a rock. The BBS simulate this effect... but on a whole other level... because the BBS are far more Dense/Heavy.
The Fajin based impacts on this bag... both helps to condition your fist, as well as to develop your Precision Timing, to develop your Quick Twitch muscle fibers, and full body mass unification.
If you dont have enough Quick Twitch muscle fibers, you wont be able to generate Explosive Power. And if your Muscle Tension timing is off by a mere sixteenth of a second... you can easily lose up to 80% of your Fajin potentials.
It probably took me 1 full months to generate high level Fajin expression.. BUT... I was already a Masterclass level fighter, with an already mastered Vertical Fist strike.
Of course, Fajin can be added to any kind of strike... such as Chops, hammerfist..etc. It can also be used with Long Range strikes, such as in Karate / Longfist strikes. Its just that... if you have lethal level strikes within a mere inch or two... why bother using longer movements, which are slower and more Telegraphed? It then just boils down to combat application.
@@johndough8115 1st of all, thank you for your comments above, I have learned more from your 2 comments then from my entire "Karate learning history".
But from purely physical point of view, there is one point I do not agree with. The above sentence "As for the legs go... it doesnt matter."
The "Kime" moment, it is about delivering as much kinetic energy in as little time as possible (you gave a great example with the steel BBs). This "little time" you achieve by, as you very well describe, "quickly tense your body up, for a fraction of a second". But if you have no acumulated Kinetical energy in your body (in Karate some say in Hara), you will have to rely on your triceps pushing back against your tensed body (otherwise you have no source of kinetic energy except already accelerated hand, which is not much). I have no doubt you can stil delivered lethal punch as you describe, but the lethalness will be diminished by 2 factors, less kinetical energy available in your body, and strong dependance on triceps. Also in the famous video of BruceLee one-inch-punch, you can see his very strong use of legs (to charge his Hara with kinetical energy, and later discharge in a way you describe).
Once again, thank you for your great comment
@@stanislav3162 1st of all, thank you for your comments
- Im Happy to help, and to spread useful information, of the Higher truths / Almost Lost Technology.
But if you have no acumulated Kinetical energy in your body (in Karate some say in Hara), you will have to rely on your triceps pushing back against your tensed body (otherwise you have no source of kinetic energy except already accelerated hand, which is not much).
- You are not realizing the source of the Power. You see.. Im not merely tensing my Arms. Im tensing my ENTIRE body. The combined muscle tensions, of my legs, abs, arms, chest, etc... all at once. When all of those muscles and tissues have Tensed... they act as one giant Moving Mass. The speed at which they move... is in the Fraction of Second time-frames... so, it might equate to something like 500 mph. I couldnt tell you. All I do know, is that its a lot more power, than you can imagine as being physically possible. In fact, it sounds outright like Pure Fantasy. However... Im telling you the Honest Truth... that this is very real, and very Lethal, at Masterclass levels.
- Try this.. to understand: Get a 10 foot long 2x4. Place a few bricks under each end of it... to raise it off the ground a few inches. You want the 2x4, to be laid flat on its thicker sides, not vertical like an I-Beam.
- Now... Stand still in the Center of the 2x4. Relax your body, With Knees slightly bent from the start. Now... quickly thrust your entire body mass downwards, as if you are trying to crush a bug thats under the center of the 2x4. Part of this motion, will be to thrust your hips downwards, and bend your knees slightly more. But once you start the movement, you also want to TENSE all of your muscles... to create a powerful wave of linked downwards vectored energy.
- If you have done it correctly.. the 2x4 will have Flexed pretty deeply, and you will likely be sprung upwards right afterwards, like a spring, as the 2x4 recoils back to its original shape.
- Now, this time, repeat the same drill.. but also add in the motion, of thrusting both of your arms downwards, with double palm-strikes. Your vectored energy, will likely feel like it Doubled... and the flex will be even greater.
- Its much easier to understand this energy, while thrusting downwards, because you are naturally using Gravity, to help aid the movements. Its a bit harder to understand, feel, and use this energy.. in a combination of Vertically AND horizontally. With Internal based "Grounding" methods.. you have to Learn to feel and understand how to use "Ground Power" in your movements.
I have no doubt you can stil delivered lethal punch as you describe, but the lethalness will be diminished by 2 factors, less kinetical energy available in your body, and strong dependance on triceps.
- Firstly... realize that in most cases, the OP is stepping in towards me, to try to hit me. Thus, when I use my mostly-extended lead guard hand, to throw a short range stike to his forehead... The impact forces are already multiplied by his own energy of him stepping directly towards it.
- But even if they were standing still... and again, you were sitting in a chair... you still could generate lethal short range potentials.
- One time, I was doing a demo for an Asian dude, at an Asian restaurant. To show him my fist conditioning... I mildly punched the Brick flooring a few times. The Asian mother made a comment to her son... and her son said that she thought I was, or could be faking it. This kind of irked me a little, because I was literally 4 feet away from her... and the impacts were quite audible. I really wasnt thinking too much about it.. as I was a bit drunk... and I just decided to give her a short range strike demo. I had her hold her hand up...
- I was sitting in the seat directly across from her. I gauged about 4 inches, and then Snapped a short range fist strike to her hand. The sound was like that of a Cracking Whip! Very loud! I accidentally put way too much power into it.. due to me being a bit drunk. She let out a shriek, and reeled away in pain. I apologized, and massaged her palm for a little, to get the blood flowing better within it. It was kinda funny, because I was getting "tongue and Cheek" Shamed by everyone at the table.
- Of course, the Hand is very robust.. and there are no Organs within it to be "Ruptured", which is why I tend to demo short range power on it. Even females hands, are often decent enough to survive a mild strike to them, without issues... where as the same strike power to the head, chest..etc.. would utterly be unbearable, and potentially dangerous, even at mild levels.
Also in the famous video of BruceLee one-inch-punch, you can see his very strong use of legs (to charge his Hara with kinetical energy, and later discharge in a way you describe).
- Bruce demos a Push version of Fajin. The same demos can be seen performed by Tai Chi masters/practitioners. Bruce uses a fist shape, where as in Tai Chi demos.. its an Open Palm... but the energy is still exactly the same. Its an "Explosive Push".
- However, Lee also knew the IMPACT version of the technique. And sometimes... he added a little bit of Impact Potentials.. to his Fajin Push Demos.
- Realize this... If the OP is seen Accelerating away from a persons strike.. Exactly What is happening? Most of the damages done by a strike, occur at the Exact moment of Solid (compressed tissue) Impact. Once that moment occurs, most of the impact energy has exchanged, and done its work. Everything AFTER that impact.. is merely a Diluted push (largely wasted energy).
- You see.. once the fists hits the OPs hardened flesh... its already slowed down DRAMATICALLY, due to resistance and mass. And as your fist plunges past a few inches.. its not only getting progressively slower and weaker... but also.. the OPs body is accelerating faster and faster away from you and your fist... making any further potential damages, even more Diluted.
- This is why, the most powerful hits, are when you can drop ALL of your Body Mass energy, into like a Sixteenth of a Second timeframe. Its so fast, that the OPs body isnt going to move more than a few inches, at best... and likely only moved because they are in so much shock and pain.. that they completely lost track of their firm stance / footing. Unlike Lees demos.. a person thats attacking you, isnt standing squared.. with no rooting. He wont be easily pushed backwards.
- Bruce also chose to use a push demo... because fajin impact Power, cant be "SEEN", only "FELT". And anyone that witnessed a person simply dropping to the floor after being hit... the audience would simply thing that its "Fake"... because they cant FEEL it, to actually understand it.
- This was his way to show short range power potentials, without causing too much damages, as well as to be far more believable to the Spectators. He made the OPs stand with feet together, which makes it much easier to push them backwards past their center of Gravity.. and.. he placed a folding chair behind them... so that the chair itself would allow them to slide, with their momentum... rather than simply falling quickly to the floor, with far less distance, due to friction of their clothing dragging on the floor.
- Anyway.. one cant generate this level of Impact potentials, without a lot of Quick Twitch muscles, special Speed drills, and more. Your body has to develop double the standard acceleration potentials, develop fraction of second time unit precision control / timings, and has to already have understood and mastered "relaxed powered" striking methods.
- Interesting enough... Fajin is very similar to a Breakdancers "Pop and Lock" abilities. That vibrational surge that you see, from them... but added to a strike... and on a whole other level of potentials and precision.
Once again, thank you for your great comment
Thanks. Best Regards.
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This is the way a good boxer punches.
Yes indeed
Why didn't you use a funnel ? ;)
IMHO this is not an accurate analogy. The liquid in the bottle is moving free of the bottle, it is not attached like your ligaments bone and flesh so will not react in the same way as your body. It is however a very good demonstration of how weight adds to your force and 'piles up' on impact. I think we overthink kime, in that I only feel its relevance in things like tightening your fist, hardening your shuto or whatever technique you would like to make more rigid on impact. I think we do this in a lot of ways naturally.
Look into Chinese Iron Ball Training.
IMHO "Kime" is more a state of mind then the focus of how to coordinate physically the body. It's the mental attitude or determination that the blow is in place and the technique is carried out to the end. Something like "zanshin" within your technique without cramping (physically and mentally).
I disagree. Kime is a physical form, not a mental one.
@@lancecahill5486 have you ever heard of "心技一体 shingiittai"?
Inertia, right? 🤔💥