Neil Young's "unrepresentative" 80's Geffen albums are contentious to put it mildly, but I wouldn't want them out of my NY collection. Aside from Alive 1, I still maintain that Music From the Elder is the best thing Kiss ever did, and I'll die on that mountain.
Black Tie White Noise and Buddha of Suburbia are often over looked but are considered some of his best albums in the hardcore Bowie community. Well worth searching out - though I don't think Bowie brought out an album that I would classify as Bad with a capital B. Love your channel btw
@@Augenleberwurst I respect your opinion however I couldn't disagree with you more. Buddha of Suburbia and Outside are my two favourite Bowie albums of all time.
Not a must-have but "Earthling" is a wonderful David Bowie record. All electric and was released during the height (hype) of NIN and Ministry. Also features a version of "I'm Afraid of Americans" with Trent Reznor. A strange addition to the Bowie discography because of it's electronic sound but worth hearing once in a while.
I absolutely played Earthling to death in the 90s. Little Wonder was a fantastic single and it was so good to see Bowie full of piss and vinegar, enthused about what he was doing again after losing direction for a while.
Funny, I kept thinking of this one. I've tried to warm up to it on many occasions, but hate it every time. Of course, I'm the guy who finds another angle of Bowie by putting on some Tin Machine...
Interesting comment about remixing bad albums, as this has happened posthumously with two Bowie records, approved by Bowie before his death. The notorious Never Let Me Down got a complete rerecord apart from Bowie's parts, performed by Bowie's latter-day band members. Lodger from 1979 was an album I liked very much, but apparently when it was being made there wasn't a top-grade facility available to do the mastering, so it always sounded kind of thin. Producer Tony Visconti has gone back to the original recordings and fixed this.
Elton's always singing about girls because they are his lyricist Bernie Taupin's favorite topic. He's basically singing about Taupin's three ex-wives on half of them.
1. Outside is a dense album and not for everyone, but I love it and consider it a masterpiece. And The Buddha of Suburbia is practically a lost masterpiece. It is not a soundtrack, only the title track was, for a TV series. But it was not marketed properly as an album like it should have been. With all those evocative instrumentals, it's like LOW part II
I don't know if you see comments on older videos but I must say this one is magnificent! Please do more of these! Also, I regret not buying that "Motley brew", but if I remember correctly it says on the bottle that it turns your number 2 blue! 😂
My favorite thing about “Summer of Love” used to be that it was supposed to be a duet with Bart Simpson, and was turned down down by The Simpsons’ producers. But now my favorite thing about it is Brian Wilson’s face in the video.
Dude that cocaine drink is insane lol. I think it has like 400mg of caffeine or something. Great video Robert!! And PS: for the David Bowie albums, Earthling is VERY underrated. It has an electronic/drum and bass tone to the entire thing and I love it. Probably one of my favorite Bowie albums just for how crazy it is. Would be so cool for you to get it and share your thoughts on it!
I like the MICK of "Stupid Girl" and "Pain't It Black" - basically the London singles. At their very height, around 1982 or 83, they had sustained a 20 year career, which is more than a lot of bands can ask for and which is more than a lot of bands had gotten. Poor old John Lennon didn't even live to see 20 years in the business. Stones post-Tattoo You had put out some good songs here and there, but I'm hard-pressed to find a really great Stones album since then. By the way, "Sexy Mick" makes me sick. I roll my eyes and scoff, "what...?" 🤢
The sexy Mick thing is gross. Ain't nothing sexy about any of them, lol. Brian was the only one who ever looked decent in that band! We call them the "Rolling Uglies."
@@H-mu4bo it had synthesizers and drum machines and was far from their classic sound. It was an attempt to 'update' their sound, Jethro Tull tried that too.
it was a bit better than VooDoo Lounge, and I bought that later stuff to support a band I've respected for many years, but one only has so many limits.
David was genius. Uniquely different from his early years. RIP David. I hope you're bouncing from station to station and making wonderful stardust noise wherever you are.
Great video. The only one of these I have in my collection is Generation Swine, and I had Bridges to Babylon for a short time but got rid of it because I immediately hated it. This brought back the bad memories hilariously. And I think you also nailed what's right and wrong with the Motley Crue album. I think it's a lot better than their next one New Tattoo, which I bought as a cutout CD and got rid of quickly.
I had a feeling it's going to be David Bowie. You had so much more fun bashing all the other albums. Earthling is worth a try. I can sense you don't like electronica, and that album really embraced that mid/late 90s revolution/trend (plus "Cool Britannia"). Probably didn't age as well as some others, but still a strong album, with some killer hooks. I'm a little biased, because that was the tour I got to see him at Sziget Festival 1997.
I think Bridges to Babylon is really good actually. I can't believe you don't like Keith's songs on this. They make the album to me. Thief in the Night is one of my favorite Keith songs. It's so beautifully haunting.
Bridges is a little long, but the songs do work. "Saint Of Me" and "You Don't Have To Mean It" are the two standouts for me, but you get a lot of good second-tier Stones and no chaff.
It had 3 good songs, which in post "Undercover" records is OK. "Voodoo Lounge" and "Steel Wheels" don't have any, "Hackney Diamonds" has about 4 which is equal to "It's only rock and roll" and "A Bigger Bang" at 4.
Actually I do think there are some albums that are worse than a few of those, although I do agree with some of them. I do actually like Bridges to Babylon as I will say that's very underrated and not one of the weaker albums as I do defend it. Don't get me started on the Beach Boys album as I do despise it lol I think the worst Rolling Stones album is Dirty Work though. Also thank you for subscribing and what a surprise to see me in a video of yours lol
Excellent. Watched the whole thing. LMAO at some of the critiques you made. That dead bit in the Motley Crue breakdown was great. Funny shit plus informative in probably the obvious way. Loved it. Nice job.
@@RobertFithenThanks for doing the clip. I definitely had to agree. I am a huge Stones fan, and actually think B2B is the best of the 4 post '89 albums. But I like the way you were reviewing the songs ice cold. You said you you've done radio. 3 x listens - great idea. I'm going to go watch your 2 Best of '22 clips now.
I've never seen or heard what was so bad about Hot In The Shade. There are a lot of great songs on it...maybe fans don't like it much because there are A LOT of songs. I used to have the vinyl and saw so many tracks on one side, it looked like a K Tel album.
"Summer in Paradise" is the worst album by the Beach Boys and I'm a Beach Boys fan. Carl even walked out at one point, but rejoined at the last minute. If you look closely on DJ Tanner's wall on "Full House" you will see the poster of this album.
I like "Forever" and "I Was Made For Lovin You". I didn't back in the 80s, but the worst of post-1993 music helped me appreciate all or almost all of the 70s and 80s beyond my AOR radio and alternative preferences.
i would pick music from the elder over hot in the shade any day of the week and for me personally Aerosmith from 1987 on had lost that hungary rock sound most bands have early in their careers ,where they give it their all on the first couple of lps,i love the Rolling Stones but i agree with you on bridges to babylon some artists get lazy over the years as to how much they put into the album,or it may be a lack of ideas or inspiration sometimes i guess? we will never know ? anyway good video Robert ,take care !
Thanks! I saw "Hot In the Shade" on more worst lists than "The Elder", but you're probably right because I didn't hear anything on "Shade" that was as bad as whatever that song is on "The Elder" that makes Gene cry in the video!
The 180gm of Hot In The Shade sounds pretty good. Album is basically an album of polished demos. Nowhere near the sonic crunch of Revenge. Album is probably 4-5 songs too long. And you nailed it, Read my body is them attempting to do Pour Some Sugar on me. Dreadful song. But I still think there are some bangers on the record. If you want the worst Kiss album, go to Carnival Of Souls. Pure shit. Maybe a good song here or there, but no. PS - I still want to be trapped in your music room with a bottle of Jack and some KFC lol
Thanks! I'm surprised they didn't re release it as a double album. I saw that "Carnival of Souls" was on a lot of lists, too. But, I don't think that's considered a "real" album. Just a rush-released stopgap with some bootleg-quality artwork. That's why I chose "Hot In the Shade".
I loved this video! I hope you do another one like this down the line. I’m kind of biased because kiss is my favorite band so of course my pick out of all these would be hot in the shade 😂😂
Never been a fan of "Just Push Play" - until I removed the vocals and now I have a bigger appreciation of the album! Always liked "Bridges To Babylon".
To answer your question: every Bowie studio/live album from 1969-1983 are essential, except Pinups. Earlier stuff is hit and miss but not to be missed. Tonight is underrated. Never Let Me Down is the worst.
in my opinion both of Bowie's live albums "David Live" and "Stage" are just awful. Bowie wrote "All The Young Dudes" and yet his version is the worst I've ever heard.
While the album overall is not great, Never Let Me Down has one of my favorites EVER by him " shining star ( making my love)", I still play that song to death almost daily
Lol I forgot about ‘Just push play’! I remember wanting to like it but just couldn’t. I saw Aerosmith in concert when I was 11 in ‘97 for their Nine Lives tour, and they were phenomenal. I still love that record.
About "Bridges To Babylon". Here in DFW, Texas, we had kind of a rogue "quality rock" station called "93.3 The Zone". They and other stations got an advanced promo EP of "Bridges" songs. All stations were instructed not to play it until the date authorized. Well, The Zone purposely ignored those instructions and started playing it immediately. "Anybody Seen My Baby" with Babyface is the only one I remember. It didn't take long for word to get out, and they may have gotten a bit in trouble for that. I don't think the band was amused. I liked the single.
That John Stamos version of Forever became a little popular from being performed on Full House a few times. It should’ve been a single rather than tacked onto a Beach Boys album.
Elton's worst is unquestionably the 1979 Victim Of Love. Makes Leather Jackets seem like a masterpiece on a par with Tumbleweed Connection. Elton goes electro-disco with Giorgio Moroder henchman Pete Bellotte, Opening with a disco version of Chuck Berry's 'Johnny B. Goode', which is as awful as you could possibly imagine it to be. Elton didn't write a note for the album. Nuff said. Even though he still defends it (somewhat) in his autobiography Me.
@@RobertFithen Torturous is the right word. But that's exactly what makes the whole album so much more fascinating than the merely mediocre Leather Jackets: it's like a car crash in progress that you can't take your eyes off.
I have a pressing of the 1989 release of Hot in the shade. It sounds okay, nothing special but not unbearable. It has been a while since I’ve spun it tho.
Out of the David Bowie albums you don't have I'd definitely say try Black Tie White Noise. I have a real soft spot for it probably because it was the first Bowie cd I bought. There's a lot of covers, it's very glossy and an obvious attempt to claw back some Let's Dance success but there's some great songs on here - the title track, They Say Jump, Nite Flytes, Goodnight Sailor, the bombastic Morrisey cover and Bowie's voice sounding amazing when he belts it out toward the end of Don't Let Me Down and Down
On "hours..." a key point to make is that it's essentially a video game soundtrack. Nomad Soul on the PC and Dreamcast. It's a sort of cyberpunk science fiction rpg adventure so that's why it's got a lot of synth in it.
Thanks for the info. I don't really know much about video games, but I assume the game has been forgotten about at this point. All the better reason to remix the album without the game soundtrack concept.
@@RobertFithen David Bowie was really in this game. He voice act there, create some visuals. Not only him but his wife and his band at this moment too do voice acting. Game contain songs but with little bit altered lyrics.
@@RobertFithen It's quite cult, you can get it on modern platforms like Steam and GOG so it's fairly well known. By the way, Buddha of Suburbia will be a weird one for you since it's another soundtrack album - this time for a British TV series. It's actually quite good though l;ike a lot of original soundtracks the production on each track all have the same soundboard levels. Mainly notable for having a less good version of the most excellent "Strangers When We Meet" from Outside on it.
Victim of love is widely considered garbage by Sir Elton. It’s horrible. The Beach Boys under that douchebag Mike Love’s direction is beyond cheesy and predictably trash. But what do you expect from this time frame when Brian was mostly gone and Mike battled Carl from this era from 86-95 when years later Love would call his solo album “ unleash the Love” 🤢🤮
The most amazing thing to me is that the Kiss grunge album (Carnival of Souls) is not their worst. It's wildly out of character but the songwriting is pretty solid.
I never thought of Bridges as being particularly bad. Most late-era Stones albums only had a couple of half-decent tracks on them. Isn't Victim Of Love Elton's worst album? Summer In Paradise is on my "to buy" list but I have yet to pull the trigger on it! It sounds so bad that it I don't want to hear it. Even their weaker albums had a charm but this almost seems tragic. Bowie's worst are generally thought to be Tonight or Never Let Me Down. Hours was the first of his late-era return to form albums after over-experimenting with Earthling and Outside. You should get Buddha of Suburbia.
In the 70s, music was all about experimentation, because it was all virgin territory, and artistic license ruled. Come the 80s, it was Reagan and Thatcher, and all about the money. Rock split into genres and you had to sound like everyone else in your genre, follow the trend. The decade that rock began to die. Bowie carried on experimenting while most of his contemporaries just simply lost their way.
I might add that if there is one post-Girls album that represents the Stones well, it'd be 1989's Steel Wheels, with Mixed Emotions, their best single post Start Me Up.
There were 2 Baywatch episodes promoting Summer In Paradise, one in 1992, where they acted and performed, and one 3 years later in 1995, they were still trying to get listeners. Kinda pathetic. Also, an episode of Full House tried to promote that album. Radio didn't touch it
Check out "Golden Throats" put out by Rhino, I think. Bill's on it as well as Leonard Nimoy and others NOT known for their vocal abilities or any relationship to what might be "cool" back in the day.
There are 2 different versions of the beach boys Summer in Paradise. They are radically different in spots. The uk version has John Stamos singing forever. The USA version is better.
My most valuable vinyl is that Beach Boys Korean vinyl.i bought it ages ago, for $50, and I thought that was outrageous. Its sentimental tacky crap, but i have a soft spot for it. The only people really shelling out a thousand for it, are completists, that want the whole discography on vinyl. Stars and Stripes is their only one not available on vinyl
If the Beach Boys want some redemption, which they are in sorry need of after almost everything they have written so far, perhaps they could write about the beaches of California today. I can even recommend some song titles: 'OD OK,' 'Narcan Sniffing Blues,' 'You bitch, you bitch, I'm going to kill you, you bitch!' 'NNN, JJJ,' 'Who's Been Crapping in My Pants?' Those topics set to crazed upbeat tunes - I'd listen to that album. I suffer a bad case of toddler's object impermanence, whereby, if I stop listening to a band, I assume it no longer exists. It turns out that is not strictly true. I have just listened to David Bowie's 'Hours,' thanks to you, and really enjoyed it. Classic David Bowie, I would say, this time with a nostalgic, world weary theme. You say its tempo is rather pedestrian, but most of Bowie's songs have languid pacing, and I think the production matches the jaded mood of the album, and nearly all the songs are seriously beautiful and layered. Good pick for best of the worst, but it was always a cuckoo in the nest for this topic as it is actually a very fine album.
See I always felt like hide your heart was a mix between pour some sugar on me and then that musical refrain you referred to that you said sounded like the bullet boys always sounded like the stroke from Billy squire to me.
I only like one song Kiss ever did, on their debut. Never could get into them and the hype. Babylon CD has a cool slip cover, that's it. Stones lost their touch after Goatshead Soup/Its Only RocknRoll. (maybe up to Some Girls) Elton lost his way after Goodbye Yellowbrick Road. His first three or four albums were great. Motley who? LoL. David Bowies worst was the Tin Machine efforts. Like I've said he was a genius at songcraft. Saw Aerosmith when they were new. They sort of fell off after Toys in the Attic. It's all subjective!
I had to revisit Bowie's "Hours" after watching this. Sure, it's in the bottom half of his album rankings, but there are several that are easily worse. "Hours" is better than Black Tie, White Noise, Buddha Of Suburbia, and Tonight, but really the lowest of Bowie lows is Never Let Me Down. So, in pitting "worsts" against each other, sorry but you picked the wrong Bowie. This was fun to watch though, thanks!
Hours is only disappointing compared with the two albums that preceeded it, which were bold and experimental. This pulls things back into a more traditional songwriting mode and seemed a bit staid at the time.
I still haven't heard it. I don't know if it would be that much of a disappointment because he was well into his low phase by then, and expectations wouldn't be very high at that point.
I saw B2B on tour in Rio, with Bob Dylan, in 1998. Great concert. But Robert's comments on sexy Mick and sexy Keith really are funny! :) By the way, You Dont Have to Mean It is a good song
Did you really just say that those 4 songs are all you need of the Beach Boys in their prime??? Dude, they have like 9 albums of gold from -66-'72! :-)
How about a video on bands that were quickest to lose credibility? I'm a big fan of early-Chicago, but their stuff from 1979 on is embarrassing to listen to even when I'm alone.
Bridges to Babylon to me always sounds. Like three E. P,"s one Jagger one Keith and a stones all subpar. Hours is just meh although his other latter day albums have some great tracks especially 1.outside on.
What? No Metal Machine Music by Lou Reed? I've never heard it but I was kind of feeling nostalgic for my impacted wisdom tooth and was looking forward to re-living the experience.
Being an Elton fan . If I remember correctly. Leather Jackets was the last album he owed Geffen. Not an excuse mind you. But it is what it is. The back of the album pic was weird. Elton in leathers was like seeing a photo of your dad trying to look sexy.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with" Hours." The Tin Men stuff is a lot worse..I love "Thursday's child" and several other tracks on "Hours" like "The pretty things are going to hell"..To me,it's Bowie coming back strong after years of mediocrity..
I'm probably going to have a running commentary on this video because I want to watch the whole thing.but will have to do so in sections. So yeah, "Hot In the Shade" is awful, "Sonic Boom" being one step worse. "Rise To It", "Forever" and IMO "Little Ceasar" are the only good songs on this. It is technically good music wise (It's Kiss, ya know) but so boring 😴. Anyway, on to the Stones. Oh God help me, I see it now.
Life is full of ups and downs. One minute you're up the next you're listening to Kiss.
A few days after that, you're listening to the Beach Boys "Summer In Paradise". Lesson: It can always get worse.
@@RobertFithen That Beach Boys LP is a true A Grade stinker.
Mike Love should have been credited as Mike Hate
Sounds like a Taylor Swift fan to me
After feeling burned by Steel Wheels and Voodoo Lounge I vowed to never buy another new Stones album. I've not regretted that decision.
I Agree... they were the end for me too. Actually "Dirty Work" was the end for me and "Steel Wheels" reinforced they clocked out!!
You should check out Todd in the shadows review of summer in paradise on his trainrecords segment lol he really rips into it pretty good lol
Todd in the Shadows "TRAINWRECKORDS" episode on Summer in Paradise is the first thing I thought of when Robert brought it up.
Neil Young's "unrepresentative" 80's Geffen albums are contentious to put it mildly, but I wouldn't want them out of my NY collection. Aside from Alive 1, I still maintain that Music From the Elder is the best thing Kiss ever did, and I'll die on that mountain.
i really like the extremely heavy drums on Landing on Water
Black Tie White Noise and Buddha of Suburbia are often over looked but are considered some of his best albums in the hardcore Bowie community. Well worth searching out - though I don't think Bowie brought out an album that I would classify as Bad with a capital B. Love your channel btw
I'm with you on Black Tie White Noise, a huge improvement on Tonight and Never Let Me Down.
Agreed. None of his albums was really bad. Just everything after 87 was mediocre.
@@Augenleberwurst I tend to disagree. There is an uptick in quality from the 1990s. Most of the 80s stuff is pretty disposable
@@Augenleberwurst I respect your opinion however I couldn't disagree with you more. Buddha of Suburbia and Outside are my two favourite Bowie albums of all time.
Not a must-have but "Earthling" is a wonderful David Bowie record. All electric and was released during the height (hype) of NIN and Ministry. Also features a version of "I'm Afraid of Americans" with Trent Reznor. A strange addition to the Bowie discography because of it's electronic sound but worth hearing once in a while.
I absolutely played Earthling to death in the 90s. Little Wonder was a fantastic single and it was so good to see Bowie full of piss and vinegar, enthused about what he was doing again after losing direction for a while.
Funny, I kept thinking of this one. I've tried to warm up to it on many occasions, but hate it every time. Of course, I'm the guy who finds another angle of Bowie by putting on some Tin Machine...
Interesting comment about remixing bad albums, as this has happened posthumously with two Bowie records, approved by Bowie before his death. The notorious Never Let Me Down got a complete rerecord apart from Bowie's parts, performed by Bowie's latter-day band members. Lodger from 1979 was an album I liked very much, but apparently when it was being made there wasn't a top-grade facility available to do the mastering, so it always sounded kind of thin. Producer Tony Visconti has gone back to the original recordings and fixed this.
Bowie liked a thin sound because he believed it played better over the radio.
Elton's always singing about girls because they are his lyricist Bernie Taupin's favorite topic. He's basically singing about Taupin's three ex-wives on half of them.
1. Outside is a dense album and not for everyone, but I love it and consider it a masterpiece. And The Buddha of Suburbia is practically a lost masterpiece. It is not a soundtrack, only the title track was, for a TV series. But it was not marketed properly as an album like it should have been. With all those evocative instrumentals, it's like LOW part II
1. Outside is indeed a masterpiece. It is incomprehensible to me, that it's not recognized as such by everyone.
I don't know if you see comments on older videos but I must say this one is magnificent! Please do more of these! Also, I regret not buying that "Motley brew", but if I remember correctly it says on the bottle that it turns your number 2 blue! 😂
My favorite thing about “Summer of Love” used to be that it was supposed to be a duet with Bart Simpson, and was turned down down by The Simpsons’ producers. But now my favorite thing about it is Brian Wilson’s face in the video.
Fun Fun Fun 🤣 Pun intended? You See Me Crying is my favorite track on Toys In The Attic. Another great video 👍
Another thought, as far as worst Elton John, "Leather Jackets" is a close second to the worst being in my opinion "Victim Of Love" from 1979
Dude that cocaine drink is insane lol. I think it has like 400mg of caffeine or something. Great video Robert!!
And PS: for the David Bowie albums, Earthling is VERY underrated. It has an electronic/drum and bass tone to the entire thing and I love it. Probably one of my favorite Bowie albums just for how crazy it is. Would be so cool for you to get it and share your thoughts on it!
Thanks! Yeah, I knew that crazy drink with that name was not going to last so I kept the can.
I like the MICK of "Stupid Girl" and "Pain't It Black" - basically the London singles. At their very height, around 1982 or 83, they had sustained a 20 year career, which is more than a lot of bands can ask for and which is more than a lot of bands had gotten. Poor old John Lennon didn't even live to see 20 years in the business. Stones post-Tattoo You had put out some good songs here and there, but I'm hard-pressed to find a really great Stones album since then. By the way, "Sexy Mick" makes me sick. I roll my eyes and scoff, "what...?" 🤢
The sexy Mick thing is gross. Ain't nothing sexy about any of them, lol. Brian was the only one who ever looked decent in that band! We call them the "Rolling Uglies."
The Beach Boys did an album that has Stevie Wonder, Ringo Starr and Culture Club on it and I couldn't even sit through it once
Ooh yeh, "Beach Boys" self titled from 1985. Boy George wrote a Beach Boys song, but fairly forgettable. Still a good album, pretty hard to find too.
@@H-mu4bo it had synthesizers and drum machines and was far from their classic sound. It was an attempt to 'update' their sound, Jethro Tull tried that too.
I like bridges to Babylon. I think its a good album.
it was a bit better than VooDoo Lounge, and I bought that later stuff to support a band I've respected for many years, but one only has so many limits.
@Farrell McNulty I liked Voodoo lounge, has some good songs on there. Anyway each to their own 👍
With Bowie I find that I want to keep everything I get of his because I'll want to hear a deep cut or something different.
David was genius. Uniquely different from his early years. RIP David. I hope you're bouncing from station to station and making wonderful stardust noise wherever you are.
Great video. The only one of these I have in my collection is Generation Swine, and I had Bridges to Babylon for a short time but got rid of it because I immediately hated it. This brought back the bad memories hilariously. And I think you also nailed what's right and wrong with the Motley Crue album. I think it's a lot better than their next one New Tattoo, which I bought as a cutout CD and got rid of quickly.
It's not a total disaster but cannot compare to the perfection of Dr Feelgood or Shout at the Devil.
Midnight Rambler meets Perry Como. 😁
I had a feeling it's going to be David Bowie. You had so much more fun bashing all the other albums.
Earthling is worth a try. I can sense you don't like electronica, and that album really embraced that mid/late 90s revolution/trend (plus "Cool Britannia"). Probably didn't age as well as some others, but still a strong album, with some killer hooks. I'm a little biased, because that was the tour I got to see him at Sziget Festival 1997.
Thanks! I will check it out. I never got to see him live.
I think Bridges to Babylon is really good actually. I can't believe you don't like Keith's songs on this. They make the album to me. Thief in the Night is one of my favorite Keith songs. It's so beautifully haunting.
It's not a total mess.
Bridges is a little long, but the songs do work. "Saint Of Me" and "You Don't Have To Mean It" are the two standouts for me, but you get a lot of good second-tier Stones and no chaff.
It had 3 good songs, which in post "Undercover" records is OK. "Voodoo Lounge" and "Steel Wheels" don't have any, "Hackney Diamonds" has about 4 which is equal to "It's only rock and roll" and "A Bigger Bang" at 4.
Fantastic video! Since you asked, Earthling is essential Bowie for me. Thanks! 🙏
Actually I do think there are some albums that are worse than a few of those, although I do agree with some of them. I do actually like Bridges to Babylon as I will say that's very underrated and not one of the weaker albums as I do defend it. Don't get me started on the Beach Boys album as I do despise it lol I think the worst Rolling Stones album is Dirty Work though. Also thank you for subscribing and what a surprise to see me in a video of yours lol
Thanks! I just went by worst of lists that others had assembled. "Dirty Work" and "Bridges" seem to have been tied.
Anytime and I am digging your content. I really thought that Victim of Love was known as Elton's worst lol
Excellent. Watched the whole thing. LMAO at some of the critiques you made. That dead bit in the Motley Crue breakdown was great. Funny shit plus informative in probably the obvious way. Loved it. Nice job.
Thanks!!
John Stamos on drums !!
The real geeeenius behind the Beach Boys !!🤣
as for the Stones, they made albums during periods of time when they were uninspired. "Steel Wheels" and "Dirty Work" both put me to sleep.
I would recommend Pinups from the Bowie albums that you asked about
David Bowie "Reality" is the worst...dreadful from start to finish. "Earthling" is still the best since "Let's Dance". The rest are dreadful.
Great clip. I laughed several times. And that was actually pretty deep, the whole ruminating on what is funny, funny/bad.
Thanks!!
@@RobertFithenThanks for doing the clip.
I definitely had to agree. I am a huge Stones fan, and actually think B2B is the best of the 4 post '89 albums. But I like the way you were reviewing the songs ice cold. You said you you've done radio.
3 x listens - great idea.
I'm going to go watch your 2 Best of '22 clips now.
I've never seen or heard what was so bad about Hot In The Shade. There are a lot of great songs on it...maybe fans don't like it much because there are A LOT of songs. I used to have the vinyl and saw so many tracks on one side, it looked like a K Tel album.
"Summer in Paradise" is the worst album by the Beach Boys and I'm a Beach Boys fan. Carl even walked out at one point, but rejoined at the last minute. If you look closely on DJ Tanner's wall on "Full House" you will see the poster of this album.
I like "Forever" and "I Was Made For Lovin You". I didn't back in the 80s, but the worst of post-1993 music helped me appreciate all or almost all of the 70s and 80s beyond my AOR radio and alternative preferences.
I've never hated "I Was Made For Lovin' You", but I can see people's issue with it.
The David Bowie Album with the Blue cover is the original release of The Space Oddity album so yes I would recommend it.
Seconded.
The worst Stones is still much better than most current garbage.
There is a level of expectation with the Rolling Stones, though.
i would pick music from the elder over hot in the shade any day of the week and for me personally Aerosmith from 1987 on had lost that hungary rock sound most bands have early in their careers ,where they give it their all on the first couple of lps,i love the Rolling Stones but i agree with you on bridges to babylon some artists get lazy over the years as to how much they put into the album,or it may be a lack of ideas or inspiration sometimes i guess? we will never know ? anyway good video Robert ,take care !
Thanks! I saw "Hot In the Shade" on more worst lists than "The Elder", but you're probably right because I didn't hear anything on "Shade" that was as bad as whatever that song is on "The Elder" that makes Gene cry in the video!
The 180gm of Hot In The Shade sounds pretty good. Album is basically an album of polished demos. Nowhere near the sonic crunch of Revenge.
Album is probably 4-5 songs too long. And you nailed it, Read my body is them attempting to do Pour Some Sugar on me. Dreadful song.
But I still think there are some bangers on the record.
If you want the worst Kiss album, go to Carnival Of Souls. Pure shit. Maybe a good song here or there, but no.
PS - I still want to be trapped in your music room with a bottle of Jack and some KFC lol
Thanks! I'm surprised they didn't re release it as a double album. I saw that "Carnival of Souls" was on a lot of lists, too. But, I don't think that's considered a "real" album. Just a rush-released stopgap with some bootleg-quality artwork. That's why I chose "Hot In the Shade".
I loved this video! I hope you do another one like this down the line. I’m kind of biased because kiss is my favorite band so of course my pick out of all these would be hot in the shade 😂😂
Thanks!! I plan on a making a follow up at one point.
Never been a fan of "Just Push Play" - until I removed the vocals and now I have a bigger appreciation of the album!
Always liked "Bridges To Babylon".
To answer your question: every Bowie studio/live album from 1969-1983 are essential, except Pinups. Earlier stuff is hit and miss but not to be missed. Tonight is underrated. Never Let Me Down is the worst.
in my opinion both of Bowie's live albums "David Live" and "Stage" are just awful. Bowie wrote "All The Young Dudes" and yet his version is the worst I've ever heard.
While the album overall is not great, Never Let Me Down has one of my favorites EVER by him " shining star ( making my love)", I still play that song to death almost daily
great point about Bowie ‘Hours’. the songs are solid. vocals are solid. just strip it down.
Lol I forgot about ‘Just push play’! I remember wanting to like it but just couldn’t. I saw Aerosmith in concert when I was 11 in ‘97 for their Nine Lives tour, and they were phenomenal. I still love that record.
About "Bridges To Babylon". Here in DFW, Texas, we had kind of a rogue "quality rock" station called "93.3 The Zone". They and other stations got an advanced promo EP of "Bridges" songs. All stations were instructed not to play it until the date authorized. Well, The Zone purposely ignored those instructions and started playing it immediately. "Anybody Seen My Baby" with Babyface is the only one I remember. It didn't take long for word to get out, and they may have gotten a bit in trouble for that. I don't think the band was amused. I liked the single.
Young Americans, stationtostation, zuiggy stardust, hunky Dory, Low...
That John Stamos version of Forever became a little popular from being performed on Full House a few times. It should’ve been a single rather than tacked onto a Beach Boys album.
hair-metal and butt-rock died instantly. it’s like everybody woke up one day and said : this shit sucks.
Elton's worst is unquestionably the 1979 Victim Of Love. Makes Leather Jackets seem like a masterpiece on a par with Tumbleweed Connection. Elton goes electro-disco with Giorgio Moroder henchman Pete Bellotte, Opening with a disco version of Chuck Berry's 'Johnny B. Goode', which is as awful as you could possibly imagine it to be. Elton didn't write a note for the album. Nuff said. Even though he still defends it (somewhat) in his autobiography Me.
I haven't heard it, but from my understanding the "Johnny B Goode" goes on for a torturous 8 minutes.
@@RobertFithen Torturous is the right word. But that's exactly what makes the whole album so much more fascinating than the merely mediocre Leather Jackets: it's like a car crash in progress that you can't take your eyes off.
I have a pressing of the 1989 release of Hot in the shade. It sounds okay, nothing special but not unbearable. It has been a while since I’ve spun it tho.
Out of the David Bowie albums you don't have I'd definitely say try Black Tie White Noise. I have a real soft spot for it probably because it was the first Bowie cd I bought. There's a lot of covers, it's very glossy and an obvious attempt to claw back some Let's Dance success but there's some great songs on here - the title track, They Say Jump, Nite Flytes, Goodnight Sailor, the bombastic Morrisey cover and Bowie's voice sounding amazing when he belts it out toward the end of Don't Let Me Down and Down
I definitely toasted more than one of the good stuff for you having to listen to a lot of this stuff. Lol thanks for doing this Robert!
Dude I LOVE “Too Rude” from Keith Richards. This is actually the first time I’ve ever heard anyone praise it. It’s one of Keith’s best for me
when people say or talk about “worse albums” i think about Ringo Star’s 1977 album “Ringo The 4th”… i dare you check it out
It's one of his albums that I've still never heard.
2 words. Love Beach. 😂
The over-the-top cheesy, blow dried LeBaron ad album cover photo announced they had strayed into Barry Manilow meets the Soft Machine territory...
On "hours..." a key point to make is that it's essentially a video game soundtrack. Nomad Soul on the PC and Dreamcast. It's a sort of cyberpunk science fiction rpg adventure so that's why it's got a lot of synth in it.
Thanks for the info. I don't really know much about video games, but I assume the game has been forgotten about at this point. All the better reason to remix the album without the game soundtrack concept.
@@RobertFithen David Bowie was really in this game. He voice act there, create some visuals. Not only him but his wife and his band at this moment too do voice acting. Game contain songs but with little bit altered lyrics.
@@RobertFithen It's quite cult, you can get it on modern platforms like Steam and GOG so it's fairly well known.
By the way, Buddha of Suburbia will be a weird one for you since it's another soundtrack album - this time for a British TV series. It's actually quite good though l;ike a lot of original soundtracks the production on each track all have the same soundboard levels.
Mainly notable for having a less good version of the most excellent "Strangers When We Meet" from Outside on it.
Victim of love is widely considered garbage by Sir Elton. It’s horrible.
The Beach Boys under that douchebag Mike Love’s direction is beyond cheesy and predictably trash. But what do you expect from this time frame when Brian was mostly gone and Mike battled Carl from this era from 86-95 when years later Love would call his solo album “ unleash the Love” 🤢🤮
I have got to check out "Unleash the Love"! That's got to be awful.
One of the best Keef songs is, You got the silver on Let it bleed
The most amazing thing to me is that the Kiss grunge album (Carnival of Souls) is not their worst. It's wildly out of character but the songwriting is pretty solid.
as somebody who dislikes Kiss mostly I actually was surprised to find that album is kinda enjoyable? credit where credits due
I never thought of Bridges as being particularly bad. Most late-era Stones albums only had a couple of half-decent tracks on them. Isn't Victim Of Love Elton's worst album? Summer In Paradise is on my "to buy" list but I have yet to pull the trigger on it! It sounds so bad that it I don't want to hear it. Even their weaker albums had a charm but this almost seems tragic. Bowie's worst are generally thought to be Tonight or Never Let Me Down. Hours was the first of his late-era return to form albums after over-experimenting with Earthling and Outside. You should get Buddha of Suburbia.
In the 70s, music was all about experimentation, because it was all virgin territory, and artistic license ruled. Come the 80s, it was Reagan and Thatcher, and all about the money. Rock split into genres and you had to sound like everyone else in your genre, follow the trend. The decade that rock began to die. Bowie carried on experimenting while most of his contemporaries just simply lost their way.
Pick any Stones album post Some Girls. They're not bad albums, just really cliché and stale, the 90s and beyond releases especially.
I might add that if there is one post-Girls album that represents the Stones well, it'd be 1989's Steel Wheels, with Mixed Emotions, their best single post Start Me Up.
Great video. Now I kinda want to here the whole aerosmith album
I thought everything after Let’s Dance was crap from Bowie
i'm glad you picked bowie...i actually love that album....be well...peace...rocky
I am not a fan of bands that put out really long albums. 45 minutes tops!!and thank God I never got into the Beach Boys 😆
If you like psychedelia, try "Feel Flows", a later Beach Boys track.
Worst band/albums ever… Angel! Hands down. Musically, it’s the Wicker Man of movies.
You need everything Bowie recorded between 1970 and 1980 .
There were 2 Baywatch episodes promoting Summer In Paradise, one in 1992, where they acted and performed, and one 3 years later in 1995, they were still trying to get listeners. Kinda pathetic. Also, an episode of Full House tried to promote that album. Radio didn't touch it
How about obscure horrible but fun albums, like The Shaggs "Philosophy Of The World"? Or Lou Reed "The Bells"? Or any William Shatner album? 😂
Check out "Golden Throats" put out by Rhino, I think. Bill's on it as well as Leonard Nimoy and others NOT known for their vocal abilities or any relationship to what might be "cool" back in the day.
There are 2 different versions of the beach boys Summer in Paradise. They are radically different in spots. The uk version has John Stamos singing forever. The USA version is better.
My most valuable vinyl is that Beach Boys Korean vinyl.i bought it ages ago, for $50, and I thought that was outrageous. Its sentimental tacky crap, but i have a soft spot for it. The only people really shelling out a thousand for it, are completists, that want the whole discography on vinyl. Stars and Stripes is their only one not available on vinyl
PinUps Bowie- easential- I didn’t know the bands he covered ( Small faces) so for me thwy are his songs
If the Beach Boys want some redemption, which they are in sorry need of after almost everything they have written so far, perhaps they could write about the beaches of California today. I can even recommend some song titles: 'OD OK,' 'Narcan Sniffing Blues,' 'You bitch, you bitch, I'm going to kill you, you bitch!' 'NNN, JJJ,' 'Who's Been Crapping in My Pants?' Those topics set to crazed upbeat tunes - I'd listen to that album.
I suffer a bad case of toddler's object impermanence, whereby, if I stop listening to a band, I assume it no longer exists. It turns out that is not strictly true. I have just listened to David Bowie's 'Hours,' thanks to you, and really enjoyed it. Classic David Bowie, I would say, this time with a nostalgic, world weary theme. You say its tempo is rather pedestrian, but most of Bowie's songs have languid pacing, and I think the production matches the jaded mood of the album, and nearly all the songs are seriously beautiful and layered. Good pick for best of the worst, but it was always a cuckoo in the nest for this topic as it is actually a very fine album.
Starting out with a "thoughtful" analysis of the "music" of KISS is a real credibility builder.
All of these David Bowie albums are essential. I even really like Never Let Me Down. Perhaps Pin Ups is not essential. And the first one.
See I always felt like hide your heart was a mix between pour some sugar on me and then that musical refrain you referred to that you said sounded like the bullet boys always sounded like the stroke from Billy squire to me.
Bridges to Baylon is much better than A Bigger Bang
I was going by the general opinions I saw on various boards, etc. I don't think a lot of those people had heard "A Bigger Bang".
I only like one song Kiss ever did, on their debut. Never could get into them and the hype.
Babylon CD has a cool slip cover, that's it. Stones lost their touch after Goatshead Soup/Its Only RocknRoll. (maybe up to Some Girls)
Elton lost his way after Goodbye Yellowbrick Road. His first three or four albums were great.
Motley who? LoL.
David Bowies worst was the Tin Machine efforts. Like I've said he was a genius at songcraft.
Saw Aerosmith when they were new. They sort of fell off after Toys in the Attic.
It's all subjective!
Dammit, now I have to get a Generation of Swine CD so I can work through the tutorial.
Nice, thanks for watching until the end!
@@RobertFithen I may have fast-forwarded through the Beach Boys part.
No one has to get any M.C. albums... There are good albums by good bands available. Now you know.
Def Leppard did that with their 1987 album Hysteria. Over 62 minutes. Sounded thin and low volume. Had to turn up the stereo to get anything out of it
Same thing with GNR Appetite.
I had to revisit Bowie's "Hours" after watching this. Sure, it's in the bottom half of his album rankings, but there are several that are easily worse. "Hours" is better than Black Tie, White Noise, Buddha Of Suburbia, and Tonight, but really the lowest of Bowie lows is Never Let Me Down. So, in pitting "worsts" against each other, sorry but you picked the wrong Bowie. This was fun to watch though, thanks!
I picked it based on different lists I saw. It ended up winning.
Hours is only disappointing compared with the two albums that preceeded it, which were bold and experimental. This pulls things back into a more traditional songwriting mode and seemed a bit staid at the time.
Surely “victim of love” is Elton’s worst album
I still haven't heard it. I don't know if it would be that much of a disappointment because he was well into his low phase by then, and expectations wouldn't be very high at that point.
B2B is a killer record. The stones have 7 or 8 worse albums than that one. And the tour for that record (97-99) was one of their best.
I saw B2B on tour in Rio, with Bob Dylan, in 1998. Great concert. But Robert's comments on sexy Mick and sexy Keith really are funny! :) By the way, You Dont Have to Mean It is a good song
Where did you get that Pirates World Pink Floyd T shirt?
It was a gift, but they probably got it at some super popular discount store like Target or Wal-Mart.
Getting juiced always meant to get drunk in Rock ( like a Rolling Stone) having juice or earning juice was that 90s hip hop concept
Did you really just say that those 4 songs are all you need of the Beach Boys in their prime??? Dude, they have like 9 albums of gold from -66-'72! :-)
He hates The Beach Boys. He said "Pet Sounds" was the most overrated album of all time. So, take his comments about them with that in mind.
How about a video on bands that were quickest to lose credibility? I'm a big fan of early-Chicago, but their stuff from 1979 on is embarrassing to listen to even when I'm alone.
Bridges to Babylon to me always sounds. Like three E. P,"s one Jagger one Keith and a stones all subpar.
Hours is just meh although his other latter day albums have some great tracks especially 1.outside on.
What? No Metal Machine Music by Lou Reed? I've never heard it but I was kind of feeling nostalgic for my impacted wisdom tooth and was looking forward to re-living the experience.
Just DON'T push play is better.
🦓
My all time 80,s fave is ....Sleeping with the past.
Elton J
Being an Elton fan . If I remember correctly. Leather Jackets was the last album he owed Geffen. Not an excuse mind you. But it is what it is. The back of the album pic was weird. Elton in leathers was like seeing a photo of your dad trying to look sexy.
I have the cassette so I wasn't familiar with the back cover and had to look it up.
I don't have a problem with Hot in The Shade, not their best, but I can't get into Sonic Boom and Monster. They're not bad, just bland and predictable
Just found your channel, I really like it
Thanks!!
You should do the best of the best next!
I rate Bridges to Babylon as the 23rd-best Stones album, so only listen to a few tracks.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with" Hours." The Tin Men stuff is a lot worse..I love "Thursday's child" and several other tracks on "Hours" like "The pretty things are going to hell"..To me,it's Bowie coming back strong after years of mediocrity..
That's probably why it was the winner.
I'm probably going to have a running commentary on this video because I want to watch the whole thing.but will have to do so in sections. So yeah, "Hot In the Shade" is awful, "Sonic Boom" being one step worse. "Rise To It", "Forever" and IMO "Little Ceasar" are the only good songs on this. It is technically good music wise (It's Kiss, ya know) but so boring 😴. Anyway, on to the Stones. Oh God help me, I see it now.
You’d like/love Pinups.
I'm surprised Songs From the Elder wasn't the Kiss album picked.