Jamie, the bearing damage is caused by babbitt worm. That short block is gonna be full of babbitt worm eggs now, so you better have everything baked. Oh yeah, and wash the shop floor with WD-80, which is twice as good as WD-40 to kill babbitt worm eggs.
What did we learn? Keep buying old engines until we score one that can be built from all the stockpiled parts! Hoarding old engines isn't an addiction, it's soothing therapy for the soul.
I like to watch automotive sorts of videos. I watch Derek and I watch you and I watch Questionable Garage to learn how they work and I watch Hoovie to see how NOT to buy them. I am old now and I bought the car I wanted exactly once in my life and the rest of the time I bought the most useful vehicle I could afford. I like it all and I'm sorry people want to correct you. Even when you are right. Just do what you do. Your audience is out here.
People don't think you are not smart. They give advice because they don't know what you actually know and what you do with mopars makes them accessible to average people and everyone wants to see you do awesome!
After a year & a half search, I purchased a complete 325 Hemi from a '57 Dodge Sierra wagon in Kansas City Missouri. I paid to have it removed, had a pallet made for it, used two truck companies to transport it to Seattle, then eventually shipped to me in Australia. Just getting it to me took one year at vast cost. Once I started to dismantle it, I found the same frost crack/split as you have. I was crushed for over 15 years. I now have another, a good one this time, plus a 325 Poly block, so I may build another engine from all the leftovers. [I still have new .030" pistons, bearings & other parts left over] The damaged block had an engine number starting with 13xxx. This was a bad omen from the start. Build one engine from your best parts. You will be so glad that you did. P.S. There are a ton of parts that interchange from the LA engines & the Poly cam & Hemi truck cam use more 'pedestrian cam timing. I also believe that the 315 & 325 cam blank is the same as LA, but lifter bore included angle is different. More PS. LA main caps are interchangeable with two proviso's The LA center cap uses a wider thrust bearing, so when using LA caps, the center one needs to be narrowed to use the Dodge bearing. Also, it's possible that the LA caps have the bearing locating tabs on the wrong side. When I used an LA rear cap in mine, the tab was good. I used the rear LA cap so that I could use the LA pump & drive shaft without adapter.
I don’t think it could be the same cam blank. They should be different lengths - and the rear cam bearing is definitely smaller. I can confirm this though.
@@DeadDodgeGarage While I bought so much Dodge engine stuff from a company in Florida, just after 'Katrina', I have wondered ever since if even the cam bearings are the same as LA. I know that the tower bush is the same & of course as it is universal from 1951 through all Mopar engines till the last of the big blocks. Fit a new one to avoid possible distributor damage. With a little lengthening of the distributor shaft [there are several methods] any original or aftermarket LA distributor can be used. The original 315 & 325 Hemi passenger distributor models were dual point. Suggestion. Use an LA rear main cap, oil pump & drive shaft. I'm pretty sure that you will have all of that stuff left over somewhere, & yes, get it all line honed before assembly. When I was sent all of the good Hot Rod bling stuff from Hot Heads, [$9k Au worth] included was a cam with a tag that said '315 Hemi, mild grind'. It was way too long & had a larger rear journal. I assumed "Chrysler" Hemi. Your lower main bearing damage could have arisen from the fact that it was a truck engine. They take an absolute nasty flogging over the years & all of the load is on the lower half of the mains. To ensure absolute block cleanliness, I had mine hot tanked, then put it through the Redi Strip process. It came out so clean, no rust in the coolant galleries at all. Oh soooo clean & worth every penny.
You should check out Hot Heads - they have everything for early Hemis. I’m sorry - couldn’t resist. 😂 Dude, you rule. Don’t change a thing. Some things I know, but I generally learn something every time I watch. You rock!!!!👍🇺🇸🏁🔥
@@DeadDodgeGarage I think it’s your droll wit and dead pan delivery combined with the somewhat nasal, droning, monotone nature of your speaking voice. It sort of lulls me into something like a torpid stupor that I find oddly pleasant. Of course it might be something else. 🤔
@dgeGarage They are in line. There is 1 listed on the bay ( I just searched ). I believe these are for 241-315 low deck though. edit : the one on the bay is for a Chrysler but the same configuration .
I would use the 1st block, the freeze damage is , ah ,no. Ya got pistons, enough rods,and a crank. The other stuff can all be worked out. I dig it, keep goin',,,Love,,,DUBS,,,,
I saw bearings like that from my time in auto parts. Owner claimed it was anti-freeze contamination????? Glad to see your're not giving up on the hemi. If you keep buying them up you may end up finding my 56 D500 that was stolen off a friends porch in the mid 90's. Lower end was all assembled. Heads were all done with new intake valves and all new guides. They were just not on the block. Happened in Chehalis so not far from you. Often wonder. So an early A body would be perfect...esp a road toad. Maybe a wagon???? BTW there used to be a 57-9 Dodge pickup with the station wagon bedsides that had a 315 hemi running around lewis county. Had a push button power flyte. Was too cool.
I’m a big mopar fan myself. But my favorite 50s overhead valve engines are the early Oldsmobile. I have one in my Model A coupe. Lots of torque for a 303. Also have all the bits for a 371 J2. Thanks for sharing the knowledge Jamie! And I appreciate the Archer humor!
@@DeadDodgeGarage I'd still reach out, I've seen this work before for a couple of lesser known people than you. You might also contact Nick's Garage in Montreal he is in the mix with many people in the more average power fans. Nick knows of many resources as well that could be useful to this build. I'd give either a try it's free. Don't just think that you are so low on the pole that true enthusiasts won't lend a hand.
I wasn’t expecting a video today! Thanks very much, this makes my day. You’re doing an awesome job!! Ignore the idiots, most of them commenting probably can’t even change their own wiper blades.
westport wa.state here sir. one of my favorite things to do is read comments. remember that show kids say the darndest things. or was it dumbest things anyway, you got this. watching.
Jamie don't give up, we all want to see it run. You remind me of a guy over here in Aus, Coopzcarz on RUclips, he builds tidy cars out of his pile of junk Valiants, and does some great sheet metal work. You have great content and your commentary is funny.
Some people would have parts in there sheds for that motor it’s just a matter of word of mouth or advertisement may dig up some good bits for that motor . Great clip . 👍🏻🇦🇺.
I like the direction this is going!!!! I have a couple of comments that might be helpful.....or not LOL. Most of my experience has been with the Chrysler Fire Powers and as you noted the Dodge Hemi is a different animal. They do have a few things in common though so this might help. If you want to eventually want to put the engine in a MOPAR with torsion bars you will need to use a 1957-58 325 Dodge passenger car oil pan and pickup. These are a center sump pan and a bolt on for the 315. There are a lot of different manual transmission adapters out there, but are a bit on the pricey side. Years ago I built my own adapter to mate a SB 4 speed bell housing to a Chrysler Gen 1 Hemi. It was pretty simple; I cut down a factory spacer plate (used between the engine and transmission on the late 50s MOPAR engines.....there are different widths I used the 3/4" one). It has the dowles to center the spacer on the block.....but it may take a bit of giggling to get the transmission input shaft centered in the pilot bearing. For a flywheel I used a poly flywheel (which are the same between Chrysler, Plymouth and Dodge) and had it turned down to to 318/340 dimensions and installed the later SB ring gear. The Poly flywheels are only 6 bolt but index properly to the 8 Bolt HEMI flange. The combination uses a standard Chrysler starter (either the older gear reduction unit or the later smaller Hi Torque units (the starter will need to be spaced out about 1/8"). I have also heard the flat head six flywheel is also an 8 bolt flywheel and will bolt to the HEMI crank, but I don;t know for sure. If you are using a cast iron bell housing it should be rigid enough to that I wouldn't worry about the lower 2 bolts. I used this setup on my old 57 Plymouth with a 354 HEMI for about 15 years with no problems. This is the build video on the 354 HEMI I'm putting in a 68 Valiant ruclips.net/video/SzFdDWr1XcY/видео.html The spacer and flywheel is shown at to 5:00 mark. I'm currently putting the 354 in the video into a 1968 Valiant. It's tight the 2 issues I ran into were the passenger side inner fender to valve cover and driver side exhaust to steering interference. Due to the Dodge being physically smaller it may not be an issue for your 315.......I'd try it LOL. I'm using a set of Schumacher /6 to SB conversion mounts as a starting point on my build and except for the interference problems mentioned above it puts the engine right where it needs to be with the center sump pan. Anyway just an old mans 2 cents. I'll be watching to see where you go with the engine.
AVE is good, was wondering where you got your box opening skills. You gotta love all the expert comments. Seen bearings soaked in salt water, run with a mix of glycol and oil, none looked like those bearings. Hmmm,cool. Did those early hemi's use the direct drive starters like the 66 426?
I watch these videos with a novice skill level, so a lot of its over my head. It's quite interesting to see what goes into making these engines run. Especially with the history that Hemi's have. Good luck with this one Jamie!
What happened to them main bearing , looked beat to death . Anyway I cant ever comment on whats right or wrong re. what you say . Im in the UK and run nothing you do however I find your commentary very enjoyable , im learning with every video and find all of it very interesting
Yeah I’m pretty sure you’re right… I don’t understand how the crank could be this good either. My current working theory is that this is a collection of different parts that were put together into an engine and never run.
Huh. Admittedly, "Skip your meds Monday" was a complete failure, but today I see that several of the commenters seemed to have doubled up on their meds! That's a great idea! Funny stuff! Why didn't super me think of that?!!!!!!!!!
I used to be a mechanic, you know, an actual mechanic in a shop with a phone number and things. Back in the early 80`s I boarded with an old couple named Paul and Mary. Yep there`s a song related to this story but it`s not the same Paul and Mary. Anyways, Paul had a wrecker and his front and back yard was full of old cars. They were in their 70`s btw. Paul loved cars as did I. Mary worked at the local hospital as the clean up lady and sold marywanna joints to the locals for extra side cash. Two bucks a joint back in the 80`s wasn`t bad money. The front yard had no grass on it. Anyway I was meandering about the local junkyard for what ever reason. It was a common thing for me to junk a perfectly good car to get $40 for a bag of weed. On that particular day I rambeled upon a huge Desota /Dodge or something station wagon that was scheduled to be scrapped that day. I popped the hood and discovered it had a fire dome Hemi in it. Complete, never touched. I jumped in the car and raced back to Paul`s and told him about it and he begged and ended up arguing with Mary for $250 dollars of her pot money so we could go buy the drivetrain out of the Desota. Long story short...we took Pauls wrecker and saved the Hemi from the scrap yard that day. That was sort of hell and satisfaction all rolled into one in a few hours of history. One Hemi saved is the moral of the story at the expense of Mary`s pot enterprise at two dollars a joint.
There is an old video of an engine made of parts (connecting rods, bearings, pistons, etc) from different companies, it used Ford, GM parts to make a torque monster engine. Some of the parts were oversize, had to be machined, etc. It was a 350 block using a small 283 crank, I believe.
Oh yeah. There are all kinds of possibilities. It’s pretty common to go for a Chevy sized rod bearing, rod, and a piston with a compatible pin size in some of these old engines where parts are hard to get.
I understand that the comments section can be a little rough at times, but on the bright side the more people who comment (wrong or not) the more traction your channel is going to get. Also there is some value in addressing to comments because when you explain yourself I learn something new.
@@DeadDodgeGarage that’s awesome man, and the algorithm is swinging in your direction because it got recommended to me last week. I look forward to watching your channel grow, you’re doing good things.
I’ve pondered the same question for a long time, I’ve got a Dodge 270 marine top end, adjustable rockers, dimpled valve covers and the head castings, but like you, if I built it, what could I do with it. I think it would be more of a novelty thing, it needs to be seen, not enclosed in an engine compartment.
I always run grooved rod bearings in all my engines. Even if I have to add gravel during start-up. What the heck? Never seen a main bearing that looks like that!
When i was in Washington state everett Washington there was a speed shop that bought hemis and rebuilt them to sell. He sold them with 3 head gaskets under the heads you sarted out with 10 to 1 compression and as you took them off you went up to 14 to 1 niiiiiiiiice .
You should try to be more like Vice Grip Garage. He would have gone down to O’Reilly’s and gotten some compression in a can and had that thing running by now. Love ya’ Jamie.
Totally enjoyable as usual. Ive learned a ton from you and been entertained the whole way. Got a couple 315s (same exact numbers as yours!). Keep after it! Question for you. 383 or ‘99 5.9L for a junkyard ‘70 Challenger? You love both so, would love hear your opinion. Intended use is basic hot rod/cruiser…never to be restored. Thanks, Bergie in East Wenatchee
Oof, that’s a tough call. Is that car yellow by chance? Haha. If it’s a small block car and already set up for it I would be very tempted to go with the Magnum 5.9. It will fit great, and will make similar or better horsepower with very little effort. But I do love a 383… dealer’s choice! There is no bad answer.
No, it was Hemi Orange black vinyl top, 383-2v, AC, had bent (torn!) front rails, but not a rust bucket. No engine or drivetrain. Your basic junkyard dog. It WILL run again!!!
Jamie, I recall you mentioning that retrofitting magnum heads to an LA block "doesn't really work right" could you maybe share your experience with that? Im planning on running magnum heads on my 360 circle track engine, amc lifters and custom length pushrods w/ 340 cam
That will work fine. Our problem was with pushrod length. I don’t know the precise difference between the two, all I know is stock magnum heads and pushrods on an LA roller block resulted in a bunch of valve train noise. As long as you’ve got oil through lifters and pushrods the right length, it will work great.
"Hello, is this Andy Bernbaum?" Let's see if you get that reference, Google boy.... 🙂 (By the way, I catch every damn reference you use in making your videos. No, that's not a brag....) - Ed on the Ridge
Do you still have a mid 70's Dodge clubcab 4x4 with a manual trans and no motor sitting beside your shop? That had a small block mopar in it right? What kind of torque does a 315 Hemi make anyway? At least it would fit without cutting up a firewall or inner fenders (maybe) and it would be easier to bolt in possibly. You could build your very own version of a Hemi Powerwagon
It’s still here but I sold it back to Dave, from whom it came. We’ll be putting a big block in that. I had the thought that my ‘48 would be pretty awesome with Hemi power, and at least one other commenter has thought the same thing so far.
I'm sure you're familiar with Egge Machine, but what you may not know is that they make the pistons in-house from oversize blanks, and may be able to make you what you need. In addition, if you call them, they have the nicest staff imagineable who are perfectly willing to dig through their stockpile of ancient NOS stuff thats not listed on the site, to see if they have what you need. Like undersized crank bearings that aren't 'supposed' to exist. They've dug up some flathead harley stuff for me that they certainly don't advertise, all hiding in their archives. Good luck with the project(s)
I second Egge. I’m building a 301 Plymouth poly that I was warned I’d never find all the parts I needed. The folks there had pretty much all of the hard to find stuff including a set of.060 over pistons. None of it was listed on their site.
No… the early ones drop valve seats, the later ones lose lifters that then destroy camshafts. They make great power and do truck stuff. There are zillions of them on the road. But sooner or later they will probably all have issues, and for that reason I can’t really recommend one.
You know, I had the same thought… I’ve got the right bellhousing, the right engine mount bracket, and the engine in it now suddenly has a bunch of moisture in the crankcase.
So the crank can’t be welded and re ground? And the block re sleeved? Just asking, I’m a novice. I understand there not really worth rebuilding for horse power the older hemi, but be just for a street cruiser.
Yes, those things are absolutely possible - but the amount of money it would take is just ridiculous, when there are better blocks and cranks out there to start with. If one couldn’t find a replacement, that could be done. But I’ve got other options. Thank you!
In order to go from poly to hemi you might have to have new valve reliefs cut into the poly pistons and something about the compression ratio too, I can't recall 100% from memory atm but I remember reading something like that about the common Dodge poly/hemi pistons. Might look into it just to be careful...
@@DeadDodgeGarage I figured you knew, you know a lot! I remember reading something about it when I had a 57 Dodge Coronet with the KD500 325 and a rough parts motor so I figured I'd comment.
I have great hope that if you mix and match all the parts you have, you will end up with a running engine. As far as what to put it in, don't you have a 55 or 56 Dodge pickup? That would be a very natural home for it. Or any Dodge pickup for that matter.
Babbit worms😢 seriously. Lets call it what it is. Sodium glycol. Anti freeze that layed there for a long ass time. But all said lots of good parts if a 315 is your thing. They would be ok and easy to install in a swept body or 1st gen dodge. They are dependable motors but personally 354 or 392 if i was to have any 1st gen stuff. I have had 331 354 and 392. Several of the 392s. They do fun things when you shove a gmc blower on them lol. My advice is find a street rod guy they love them ol hemis. Investing a ton of money in them is good money after bad. The heads are going to cost a fortune to get done😢. If they can save the valves. Neat motor but a money pit. Like i said to the right guy its lots of good parts. Remember space is a premium so dont space out over this and let it take up space in someone elses garage that will never finish it😂
With the similarities to a 3rd gen Hemi, how hard is it to get a 6-speed manual behind the block(s) you have? 315 Hemi + Tremec 6-speed + '64 Fury = party? Not that this sounds like a cheap endeavor...
It’s an adaptor/spacer and a special flywheel away! But doesn’t it just sound wrong to put a modern six speed behind a 70 year old engine? It would be cool, I’m sure.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I was thinking about use as an everyday cruiser and life on highways would be a lot better with an OD gear. Whatever you figure out will be just fine.
We called it bearing fatigue and is due to the materials used in the babbit. The dissimilar white metals used just did not adhere to each other properly.
4:40 After a search of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, it appears Fel-Pro never received a patent for this gasket. Having a patent "pending" is a cheap, effective way of preventing someone from copying it for a while. To apply for a patent and have it "pending" is only a hundred bucks or so and prevents any copies by competition in the interim. Getting it fully patented is thousands of dollars. They did start patenting their manufacturing method of head gaskets in 1988. Much easier to group them all that way instead of patenting each individual gasket. Is that a yellow gasket? Fel-Pro states they started making their blue head gaskets in 1976.
It is yellow, and the others which do not say patent pending are silver. These are multi layer gasket as opposed to composite / paper type gaskets, and they do not tend to be blue despite being made by Felpro.
That’s a freeze crack. Overheating could never create enough pressure to crack an iron block, as even without the over pressure bypass function of the radiator cap, radiator hoses and such would be blowing off long before that ever happened. I have been told by several commenters that chemicals created by antifreeze sitting in the oil can cause that crazy bearing disintegration. That makes sense to me.
Some folks get so bent out of shape over absolutes. Then there are those of us who obsess over minutia. They don't read the small print where it says things like "Hemi production continued in 1958 for Imperials and even later into '59 for trucks. Though, truck engines were 354's, not 392's. Hemi production almost didn't stop as they were still being produced in small batches for export, agricultural use and replacement engines! There is no single definitive date when Hemi production ceased. I like blowing peoples' minds when I tell them that the old 413 didn't disappear in 1965. Chrysler made 413's deep into the 70's outliving even the 440! Though, the caveat being most of these engines (if not all of them) were destined for buses, motor homes, agricultural implements, etc. I bet you could save that engine, but at what point do you reach the point of diminishing returns? Sure, you could sleeve the block. But now you've gotta find a near-virgin crank because chances are, it's going to need to be turned. Unless you had a specific project that screamed Baby Hemi.... or you're dating the daughter of a guy who owns a machine shop.....
Actually the crank from this engine looks beautiful. The rods are my real problem now… Yeah! I’m aware 361s and 413s stuck around! It’s hard to rule anything as an absolute in Mopar world.
Jamie, the bearing damage is caused by babbitt worm. That short block is gonna be full of babbitt worm eggs now, so you better have everything baked. Oh yeah, and wash the shop floor with WD-80, which is twice as good as WD-40 to kill babbitt worm eggs.
What's worse than pulling a bearing and finding a babbitt worm? Pulling a bearing and finding HALF a babbitt worm.
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I dated a Girl that had that once. Luckily I wore a MotorKote......my crank was good as new. 😂
@@jonathanfreedom1st Was it a stroker?
@@clembob8004 damn right she was. She was rusty at it tho. 🤣
What did we learn? Keep buying old engines until we score one that can be built from all the stockpiled parts! Hoarding old engines isn't an addiction, it's soothing therapy for the soul.
I like what ur doing, don't let the haters get to you
I like to watch automotive sorts of videos. I watch Derek and I watch you and I watch Questionable Garage to learn how they work and I watch Hoovie to see how NOT to buy them. I am old now and I bought the car I wanted exactly once in my life and the rest of the time I bought the most useful vehicle I could afford. I like it all and I'm sorry people want to correct you. Even when you are right. Just do what you do. Your audience is out here.
Thank you!
I always wanted a Henry J or Willys with a blown early Hemi. Very cool.
People don't think you are not smart. They give advice because they don't know what you actually know and what you do with mopars makes them accessible to average people and everyone wants to see you do awesome!
After a year & a half search, I purchased a complete 325 Hemi from a '57 Dodge Sierra wagon in Kansas City Missouri. I paid to have it removed, had a pallet made for it, used two truck companies to transport it to Seattle, then eventually shipped to me in Australia. Just getting it to me took one year at vast cost. Once I started to dismantle it, I found the same frost crack/split as you have. I was crushed for over 15 years. I now have another, a good one this time, plus a 325 Poly block, so I may build another engine from all the leftovers. [I still have new .030" pistons, bearings & other parts left over]
The damaged block had an engine number starting with 13xxx. This was a bad omen from the start.
Build one engine from your best parts. You will be so glad that you did.
P.S. There are a ton of parts that interchange from the LA engines & the Poly cam & Hemi truck cam use more 'pedestrian cam timing. I also believe that the 315 & 325 cam blank is the same as LA, but lifter bore included angle is different.
More PS. LA main caps are interchangeable with two proviso's The LA center cap uses a wider thrust bearing, so when using LA caps, the center one needs to be narrowed to use the Dodge bearing. Also, it's possible that the LA caps have the bearing locating tabs on the wrong side.
When I used an LA rear cap in mine, the tab was good. I used the rear LA cap so that I could use the LA pump & drive shaft without adapter.
I don’t think it could be the same cam blank. They should be different lengths - and the rear cam bearing is definitely smaller. I can confirm this though.
@@DeadDodgeGarage While I bought so much Dodge engine stuff from a company in Florida, just after 'Katrina', I have wondered ever since if even the cam bearings are the same as LA. I know that the tower bush is the same & of course as it is universal from 1951 through all Mopar engines till the last of the big blocks. Fit a new one to avoid possible distributor damage. With a little lengthening of the distributor shaft [there are several methods] any original or aftermarket LA distributor can be used. The original 315 & 325 Hemi passenger distributor models were dual point.
Suggestion. Use an LA rear main cap, oil pump & drive shaft. I'm pretty sure that you will have all of that stuff left over somewhere, & yes, get it all line honed before assembly.
When I was sent all of the good Hot Rod bling stuff from Hot Heads, [$9k Au worth] included was a cam with a tag that said '315 Hemi, mild grind'. It was way too long & had a larger rear journal. I assumed "Chrysler" Hemi.
Your lower main bearing damage could have arisen from the fact that it was a truck engine. They take an absolute nasty flogging over the years & all of the load is on the lower half of the mains.
To ensure absolute block cleanliness, I had mine hot tanked, then put it through the Redi Strip process. It came out so clean, no rust in the coolant galleries at all. Oh soooo clean & worth every penny.
10:43 “…that’s because its not a Ford, hmmm…” 😆
Yea, but overall way easier to work on IMO.
Don't listen to those people that say you're a moron Jaimie..listen to the people that say you're crazy.!.lol Thanks for the tech on the poly/hemi's
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You should check out Hot Heads - they have everything for early Hemis.
I’m sorry - couldn’t resist. 😂
Dude, you rule. Don’t change a thing. Some things I know, but I generally learn something every time I watch. You rock!!!!👍🇺🇸🏁🔥
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Love your videos. Don't change a thing on how you do them.
Watching this guy is strangely calming….
I tend to elicit the opposite reaction among certain groups. Haha.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I think it’s your droll wit and dead pan delivery combined with the somewhat nasal, droning, monotone nature of your speaking voice. It sort of lulls me into something like a torpid stupor that I find oddly pleasant. Of course it might be something else. 🤔
If they don’t like it…no one is spoon feeding it to them so they should just watch something else. It’s my happy place at the dead dodge garage
Archer is my spirit animal
I have a crazy intake manifold for these. It is a Weiand aluminum 4 - 2 bbl . I got it in a pile of parts that I acquired a few decades ago.
Oh dang! That’s cool. I could see triple twos in line, I’m guessing that one has them staggered? It sounds awesome
@dgeGarage They are in line. There is 1 listed on the bay ( I just searched ). I believe these are for 241-315 low deck though. edit : the one on the bay is for a Chrysler but the same configuration .
I would use the 1st block, the freeze damage is , ah ,no. Ya got pistons, enough rods,and a crank. The other stuff can all be worked out. I dig it, keep goin',,,Love,,,DUBS,,,,
Nice Hemi's, looks like there turning into Hemi-ryoids. Good luck
Archer is awesome, and that man appreciates a fine Mopar!
Little by little. Seems like a project not to rush. On the other end, maybe you should have a shop cleaning video, lol.
I have done shop videos before but no one cares 😅 I would love to have an excuse to work on the shop.
Hemi needs to go into the Power Wagon!
That seems to be the consensus - and honestly… I was already thinking it.
I really enjoy your responses to comments 😂😂😂
Me too 😅
I saw bearings like that from my time in auto parts. Owner claimed it was anti-freeze contamination????? Glad to see your're not giving up on the hemi. If you keep buying them up you may end up finding my 56 D500 that was stolen off a friends porch in the mid 90's. Lower end was all assembled. Heads were all done with new intake valves and all new guides. They were just not on the block. Happened in Chehalis so not far from you. Often wonder. So an early A body would be perfect...esp a road toad. Maybe a wagon???? BTW there used to be a 57-9 Dodge pickup with the station wagon bedsides that had a 315 hemi running around lewis county. Had a push button power flyte. Was too cool.
I’m a big mopar fan myself. But my favorite 50s overhead valve engines are the early Oldsmobile. I have one in my Model A coupe. Lots of torque for a 303. Also have all the bits for a 371 J2. Thanks for sharing the knowledge Jamie! And I appreciate the Archer humor!
Hello... just saying you can re weld the crank then turn it back down to size, cool vid as always!
I know, and I meant to mention that too - because I know what the closest guy charges to do that… it’s just not worth it.
I'd talk to Jay Leno, he has so many contacts connecting people with the right parts. Jay appreciates keeping these original gems running.
Yeah something tells me he won’t answer my calls. And the right parts are at Hot Heads - it’s a question of money.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I'd still reach out, I've seen this work before for a couple of lesser known people than you. You might also contact Nick's Garage in Montreal he is in the mix with many people in the more average power fans. Nick knows of many resources as well that could be useful to this build.
I'd give either a try it's free. Don't just think that you are so low on the pole that true enthusiasts won't lend a hand.
Thought my garage was a disaster area ! After seeing your i'm feeling better about my garage . 🤣🤣
Omg it's so bad. I keep tripping on stuff. I make mention of the horrible mess in tomorrow's video. Lol.
keep on MOPARing @@DeadDodgeGarage
I wasn’t expecting a video today! Thanks very much, this makes my day. You’re doing an awesome job!! Ignore the idiots, most of them commenting probably can’t even change their own wiper blades.
Hope to see it run .... good content and thanks
westport wa.state here sir.
one of my favorite things to do is read comments.
remember that show kids say the darndest things. or was it dumbest things
anyway, you got this. watching.
Haaahaha. Yeah, that. Thanks!
Jamie don't give up, we all want to see it run. You remind me of a guy over here in Aus, Coopzcarz on RUclips, he builds tidy cars out of his pile of junk Valiants, and does some great sheet metal work. You have great content and your commentary is funny.
No worries brother hood I see you have a liking for mawalkee tools should be interesting watching you build this hemi
Some people would have parts in there sheds for that motor it’s just a matter of word of mouth or advertisement may dig up some good bits for that motor . Great clip . 👍🏻🇦🇺.
Yep. I’m working on that. Thanks!
Awesome, another great learning experience! Thanks
I like the direction this is going!!!! I have a couple of comments that might be helpful.....or not LOL.
Most of my experience has been with the Chrysler Fire Powers and as you noted the Dodge Hemi is a different animal. They do have a few things in common though so this might help.
If you want to eventually want to put the engine in a MOPAR with torsion bars you will need to use a 1957-58 325 Dodge passenger car oil pan and pickup. These are a center sump pan and a bolt on for the 315.
There are a lot of different manual transmission adapters out there, but are a bit on the pricey side. Years ago I built my own adapter to mate a SB 4 speed bell housing to a Chrysler Gen 1 Hemi. It was pretty simple; I cut down a factory spacer plate (used between the engine and transmission on the late 50s MOPAR engines.....there are different widths I used the 3/4" one). It has the dowles to center the spacer on the block.....but it may take a bit of giggling to get the transmission input shaft centered in the pilot bearing. For a flywheel I used a poly flywheel (which are the same between Chrysler, Plymouth and Dodge) and had it turned down to to 318/340 dimensions and installed the later SB ring gear. The Poly flywheels are only 6 bolt but index properly to the 8 Bolt HEMI flange. The combination uses a standard Chrysler starter (either the older gear reduction unit or the later smaller Hi Torque units (the starter will need to be spaced out about 1/8"). I have also heard the flat head six flywheel is also an 8 bolt flywheel and will bolt to the HEMI crank, but I don;t know for sure. If you are using a cast iron bell housing it should be rigid enough to that I wouldn't worry about the lower 2 bolts. I used this setup on my old 57 Plymouth with a 354 HEMI for about 15 years with no problems.
This is the build video on the 354 HEMI I'm putting in a 68 Valiant ruclips.net/video/SzFdDWr1XcY/видео.html The spacer and flywheel is shown at to 5:00 mark.
I'm currently putting the 354 in the video into a 1968 Valiant. It's tight the 2 issues I ran into were the passenger side inner fender to valve cover and driver side exhaust to steering interference. Due to the Dodge being physically smaller it may not be an issue for your 315.......I'd try it LOL. I'm using a set of Schumacher /6 to SB conversion mounts as a starting point on my build and except for the interference problems mentioned above it puts the engine right where it needs to be with the center sump pan.
Anyway just an old mans 2 cents. I'll be watching to see where you go with the engine.
Nice! Lots of good info here. Thanks for that. I don’t know how far I am going to go with this project but we’ll see. It needs a lot…
AVE is good, was wondering where you got your box opening skills. You gotta love all the expert comments. Seen bearings soaked in salt water, run with a mix of glycol and oil, none looked like those bearings. Hmmm,cool. Did those early hemi's use the direct drive starters like the 66 426?
“TIME!”
Similar idea, but not the same starter - at least I don’t think.
I watch these videos with a novice skill level, so a lot of its over my head. It's quite interesting to see what goes into making these engines run. Especially with the history that Hemi's have. Good luck with this one Jamie!
What happened to them main bearing , looked beat to death . Anyway I cant ever comment on whats right or wrong re. what you say . Im in the UK and run nothing you do however I find your commentary very enjoyable , im learning with every video and find all of it very interesting
I have never seen main bearings look like that and the crank not be damaged. I don't know how that engine ran . But I bet you could hear it coming.
Yeah I’m pretty sure you’re right… I don’t understand how the crank could be this good either. My current working theory is that this is a collection of different parts that were put together into an engine and never run.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I have to agree with you.
This'll be fun. Super interested in watching this rebuild. This motor should go in that super cool green W100 or W200 you have out in the yard.
Oh, that’s a thought! Others were saying the ‘48, which was kind of my thought too - for some reason.
You are very multi talented....thanks for sharing your skills😊
Epic Innnernet Troll voice is Epic 😎👍
Huh. Admittedly, "Skip your meds Monday" was a complete failure, but today I see that several of the commenters seemed to have doubled up on their meds! That's a great idea! Funny stuff! Why didn't super me think of that?!!!!!!!!!
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I used to be a mechanic, you know, an actual mechanic in a shop with a phone number and things.
Back in the early 80`s I boarded with an old couple named Paul and Mary. Yep there`s a song related to this story but it`s not the same Paul and Mary. Anyways, Paul had a wrecker and his front and back yard was full of old cars. They were in their 70`s btw. Paul loved cars as did I. Mary worked at the local hospital as the clean up lady and sold marywanna joints to the locals for extra side cash. Two bucks a joint back in the 80`s wasn`t bad money. The front yard had no grass on it. Anyway I was meandering about the local junkyard for what ever reason. It was a common thing for me to junk a perfectly good car to get $40 for a bag of weed. On that particular day I rambeled upon a huge Desota /Dodge or something station wagon that was scheduled to be scrapped that day. I popped the hood and discovered it had a fire dome Hemi in it. Complete, never touched.
I jumped in the car and raced back to Paul`s and told him about it and he begged and ended up arguing with Mary for $250 dollars of her pot money so we could go buy the drivetrain out of the Desota.
Long story short...we took Pauls wrecker and saved the Hemi from the scrap yard that day. That was sort of hell and satisfaction all rolled into one in a few hours of history.
One Hemi saved is the moral of the story at the expense of Mary`s pot enterprise at two dollars a joint.
I was just gonna say that a table would be awesome. Please do it. Lol and great video.
I have no words for those bearings, or the maybe under size piston/rod pins, or... Or or 😅
That is a big hunk of steel!
There is an old video of an engine made of parts (connecting rods, bearings, pistons, etc) from different companies, it used Ford, GM parts to make a torque monster engine. Some of the parts were oversize, had to be machined, etc.
It was a 350 block using a small 283 crank, I believe.
Oh yeah. There are all kinds of possibilities. It’s pretty common to go for a Chevy sized rod bearing, rod, and a piston with a compatible pin size in some of these old engines where parts are hard to get.
Huh. Until today's puzzling video, I thought that ice cream fixes everything. Looks like you've got yourself another "RUNAWAY"!!!!!!!!!
You could put it in one of those dart convertables
I understand that the comments section can be a little rough at times, but on the bright side the more people who comment (wrong or not) the more traction your channel is going to get. Also there is some value in addressing to comments because when you explain yourself I learn something new.
Exactly. That’s why I’m responding here. They can comment all they want, I literally am making my living off of this now.
@@DeadDodgeGarage that’s awesome man, and the algorithm is swinging in your direction because it got recommended to me last week. I look forward to watching your channel grow, you’re doing good things.
I’ve pondered the same question for a long time, I’ve got a Dodge 270 marine top end, adjustable rockers, dimpled valve covers and the head castings, but like you, if I built it, what could I do with it. I think it would be more of a novelty thing, it needs to be seen, not enclosed in an engine compartment.
I always run grooved rod bearings in all my engines. Even if I have to add gravel during start-up. What the heck? Never seen a main bearing that looks like that!
When i was in Washington state everett Washington there was a speed shop that bought hemis and rebuilt them to sell. He sold them with 3 head gaskets under the heads you sarted out with 10 to 1 compression and as you took them off you went up to 14 to 1 niiiiiiiiice .
Huh. That’s interesting.
@@DeadDodgeGarage maybe it was 12 to 1. 10 - 11 - 12. That sounds more like it
Dude...... those bearings 🤯
Seriously! They’re amazingly bad… but the crank is super nice.
I don't get the VGG references at all. You are your own flavor of RUclips.
This is fun !
Thank you for your courage!
You should try to be more like Vice Grip Garage. He would have gone down to O’Reilly’s and gotten some compression in a can and had that thing running by now. Love ya’ Jamie.
Totally enjoyable as usual. Ive learned a ton from you and been entertained the whole way. Got a couple 315s (same exact numbers as yours!). Keep after it! Question for you. 383 or ‘99 5.9L for a junkyard ‘70 Challenger? You love both so, would love hear your opinion. Intended use is basic hot rod/cruiser…never to be restored. Thanks, Bergie in East Wenatchee
Oof, that’s a tough call. Is that car yellow by chance? Haha. If it’s a small block car and already set up for it I would be very tempted to go with the Magnum 5.9. It will fit great, and will make similar or better horsepower with very little effort. But I do love a 383… dealer’s choice! There is no bad answer.
No, it was Hemi Orange black vinyl top, 383-2v, AC, had bent (torn!) front rails, but not a rust bucket. No engine or drivetrain. Your basic junkyard dog. It WILL run again!!!
Currently daily drive a 1966 amc rambler with a 1956 354 hemi and it really fast it would definitely be worth it to stuff it in an A body for sure 👌
That’s excellent!
Yeah it's really mint thanks for showing me how to convert it to an hei ignition module works great 👍
I was once told that that bearing wear is caused by antifreeze in the oil
Interesting!
There are things to be hopeful about, and a some unknowns.
Jamie, I recall you mentioning that retrofitting magnum heads to an LA block "doesn't really work right" could you maybe share your experience with that? Im planning on running magnum heads on my 360 circle track engine, amc lifters and custom length pushrods w/ 340 cam
That will work fine. Our problem was with pushrod length. I don’t know the precise difference between the two, all I know is stock magnum heads and pushrods on an LA roller block resulted in a bunch of valve train noise. As long as you’ve got oil through lifters and pushrods the right length, it will work great.
@@DeadDodgeGarage ah I get you, Mopar performance used to sell special length pushrods for the swap, 7.625"
"Hello, is this Andy Bernbaum?"
Let's see if you get that reference, Google boy.... 🙂
(By the way, I catch every damn reference you use in making your videos.
No, that's not a brag....)
- Ed on the Ridge
Don’t know that one. But because you encouraged it I looked him up. Are you suggesting he has my Hemi parts? Lol
Go Jamie Go!!!! You tell them!!!
Will 331 hemi heads fit on the block you have? 1953. I have a couple. :)
Negative - The Chrysler heads are the longest of the three. Then DeSoto in the middle, then the little Dodge.
Do you still have a mid 70's Dodge clubcab 4x4 with a manual trans and no motor sitting beside your shop? That had a small block mopar in it right? What kind of torque does a 315 Hemi make anyway? At least it would fit without cutting up a firewall or inner fenders (maybe) and it would be easier to bolt in possibly. You could build your very own version of a Hemi Powerwagon
It’s still here but I sold it back to Dave, from whom it came. We’ll be putting a big block in that. I had the thought that my ‘48 would be pretty awesome with Hemi power, and at least one other commenter has thought the same thing so far.
noway flatheads rule@@DeadDodgeGarage
I'm sure you're familiar with Egge Machine, but what you may not know is that they make the pistons in-house from oversize blanks, and may be able to make you what you need. In addition, if you call them, they have the nicest staff imagineable who are perfectly willing to dig through their stockpile of ancient NOS stuff thats not listed on the site, to see if they have what you need. Like undersized crank bearings that aren't 'supposed' to exist. They've dug up some flathead harley stuff for me that they certainly don't advertise, all hiding in their archives. Good luck with the project(s)
I’m aware they exist, and that they make 273 pistons - but that’s good to know!
I second Egge. I’m building a 301 Plymouth poly that I was warned I’d never find all the parts I needed. The folks there had pretty much all of the hard to find stuff including a set of.060 over pistons. None of it was listed on their site.
Where to put the 315? The dream home for me would be a ‘61 Lancer wagon.
Didn't you know the internet peanut gallery knows way more than you ever will?
I’ve learned that!
The 325 poly will share many parts with the 315 which includes the hemi.... if you come across one grab it will give you more options....
Perhaps an early 70s D100 pickup? Truck engine(s) after all.
My cam bearings in my 318 look exactly like that. Not expecting that to last long.
I though you were trying to be Marty Stewart.ha ha.
Thanks.
I’ll never have that much style…
Junk blocks are great for the Dead Dodge Garage Pacific Northwest Cornhole Tournament! #kiddingnotkidding.
Ooohhhh… we’re gonna need a bigger tractor.
Ahh the rarely seen bearing termites, very elusive! 😂 how did the crank still look so beautiful on those bearings?
I don’t know! It’s suspicious. I don’t think this crank could have possibly run with those bearings. I think someone just bolted all this together.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I think you’re right, and no gaskets anywhere.
Jamie, an unrelated question. As a Dodge guy, any Ram 1500, 5.7 years you would recommend ?
No… the early ones drop valve seats, the later ones lose lifters that then destroy camshafts. They make great power and do truck stuff. There are zillions of them on the road. But sooner or later they will probably all have issues, and for that reason I can’t really recommend one.
@@DeadDodgeGarage thanks for taking the time to respond. You’ve most likely saved me from a world of hurt.
You could put it In The old power wagon
You know, I had the same thought… I’ve got the right bellhousing, the right engine mount bracket, and the engine in it now suddenly has a bunch of moisture in the crankcase.
@@DeadDodgeGarage and you have a truck oil pan could be fun.
Do it. 😃👍
Saves those Hemis 👍🏻🇦🇺
So the crank can’t be welded and re ground? And the block re sleeved? Just asking, I’m a novice. I understand there not really worth rebuilding for horse power the older hemi, but be just for a street cruiser.
Love your videos!
Yes, those things are absolutely possible - but the amount of money it would take is just ridiculous, when there are better blocks and cranks out there to start with. If one couldn’t find a replacement, that could be done. But I’ve got other options. Thank you!
That’s what I figured, there just not worth doing that much to get them going
In order to go from poly to hemi you might have to have new valve reliefs cut into the poly pistons and something about the compression ratio too, I can't recall 100% from memory atm but I remember reading something like that about the common Dodge poly/hemi pistons. Might look into it just to be careful...
I will. I cut my discussion about valve reliefs out of this video for time.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I figured you knew, you know a lot! I remember reading something about it when I had a 57 Dodge Coronet with the KD500 325 and a rough parts motor so I figured I'd comment.
I have an old wood chipper with a 318 Chrysler industrial engine. Just throwing that out there.
That’s cool!
Build a run stand and just admire it. Start it up once and a while. Collect more parts. The final plan will fall into place with time.
I have a run stand!
Oh, so you are an AvE fan. It all becomes very clear now!
I have great hope that if you mix and match all the parts you have, you will end up with a running engine. As far as what to put it in, don't you have a 55 or 56 Dodge pickup? That would be a very natural home for it. Or any Dodge pickup for that matter.
No, but I have a ‘48…
@@DeadDodgeGarage Hmm....I wonder if the flathead six would be offended if it lost its home...
Babbit worms😢 seriously. Lets call it what it is. Sodium glycol. Anti freeze that layed there for a long ass time. But all said lots of good parts if a 315 is your thing. They would be ok and easy to install in a swept body or 1st gen dodge. They are dependable motors but personally 354 or 392 if i was to have any 1st gen stuff. I have had 331 354 and 392. Several of the 392s. They do fun things when you shove a gmc blower on them lol. My advice is find a street rod guy they love them ol hemis. Investing a ton of money in them is good money after bad. The heads are going to cost a fortune to get done😢. If they can save the valves. Neat motor but a money pit. Like i said to the right guy its lots of good parts. Remember space is a premium so dont space out over this and let it take up space in someone elses garage that will never finish it😂
With the similarities to a 3rd gen Hemi, how hard is it to get a 6-speed manual behind the block(s) you have?
315 Hemi + Tremec 6-speed + '64 Fury = party? Not that this sounds like a cheap endeavor...
It’s an adaptor/spacer and a special flywheel away! But doesn’t it just sound wrong to put a modern six speed behind a 70 year old engine? It would be cool, I’m sure.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I was thinking about use as an everyday cruiser and life on highways would be a lot better with an OD gear.
Whatever you figure out will be just fine.
Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed today Jamie? 😂 kidding! Comment sections are, just fun, aren’t they?
I was wondering the same thing during editing 😅
Now you have two boxes of worn out hemi parts
Yaaaayy…
We called it bearing fatigue and is due to the materials used in the babbit. The dissimilar white metals used just did not adhere to each other properly.
Interesting. Everyone else is attributing that to coolant or similar.
Love your shows and the tude cracks me up,,, sharing with friends,,, good luck ✌️
A possible Hemi for the "Garbage can Cuda"?
I’ve had the thought…
4:40 After a search of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, it appears Fel-Pro never received a patent for this gasket. Having a patent "pending" is a cheap, effective way of preventing someone from copying it for a while. To apply for a patent and have it "pending" is only a hundred bucks or so and prevents any copies by competition in the interim. Getting it fully patented is thousands of dollars. They did start patenting their manufacturing method of head gaskets in 1988. Much easier to group them all that way instead of patenting each individual gasket. Is that a yellow gasket? Fel-Pro states they started making their blue head gaskets in 1976.
It is yellow, and the others which do not say patent pending are silver. These are multi layer gasket as opposed to composite / paper type gaskets, and they do not tend to be blue despite being made by Felpro.
I'm thinking it got hot🔥 and melted the babbitt bearings. Ya know, there is a crack in the block.
That’s a freeze crack. Overheating could never create enough pressure to crack an iron block, as even without the over pressure bypass function of the radiator cap, radiator hoses and such would be blowing off long before that ever happened. I have been told by several commenters that chemicals created by antifreeze sitting in the oil can cause that crazy bearing disintegration. That makes sense to me.
Hemi Duster👌
I was hot heads first non US customer 😅 the catalogue posted to me was hand written😅
Wooooah. Haha.
I know, you can put that 315 Hemi in the Power Wag ooooh 😢 ouch 🤕 Sorry Jamie, that wasn't fair 😢
Maybe that broken ring floating around
It wasn’t anywhere in the engine… and neither was the bottom one. And no damage to the piston at all.
If only there was a website where you could buy parts for this thing.
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Some folks get so bent out of shape over absolutes. Then there are those of us who obsess over minutia. They don't read the small print where it says things like "Hemi production continued in 1958 for Imperials and even later into '59 for trucks. Though, truck engines were 354's, not 392's. Hemi production almost didn't stop as they were still being produced in small batches for export, agricultural use and replacement engines! There is no single definitive date when Hemi production ceased.
I like blowing peoples' minds when I tell them that the old 413 didn't disappear in 1965. Chrysler made 413's deep into the 70's outliving even the 440! Though, the caveat being most of these engines (if not all of them) were destined for buses, motor homes, agricultural implements, etc.
I bet you could save that engine, but at what point do you reach the point of diminishing returns? Sure, you could sleeve the block. But now you've gotta find a near-virgin crank because chances are, it's going to need to be turned. Unless you had a specific project that screamed Baby Hemi.... or you're dating the daughter of a guy who owns a machine shop.....
Actually the crank from this engine looks beautiful. The rods are my real problem now…
Yeah! I’m aware 361s and 413s stuck around! It’s hard to rule anything as an absolute in Mopar world.
If you’re going to invoke Archer, we’re going to need a few more the “Sploosh” and the “Phrasing” side comments …
“Why are we not doing phrasing anymore?!” Yeah, you’re right.