I'm not much interested in historical wargaming as such, but I love researching historical wargame models as cheaper and more flavorful alternatives to _fantasy_ wargame models. Looking at these Afghan warrior boxes has me tempted to start a Warhammer: Age of Sigmar army, using these instead of the standard Landsknecht style human military forces in that game. Have the regiment's "lore" being that they were natives to Aqshy, the realm of fire, that survived for centuries during the occupation by the evil forces of Chaos. Engaging in guerilla warfare - hit and run tactics - and generally using their understanding of the arid Aqshy landscape to their advantage. I got inspired by reading up on the actual Afghan Wars, and how the tribesmen operated in such a manner against the British. I was also thinking I might vary the ranks of the force by sticking some Afghan heads onto the bodies of Napoleonic cavalry models. I don't know if Real Life Afghan tribesmen used horses. But since I'm making up a fantasy army with its own lore, I'd be able to give them whatever kind of help I like. Mounted scouts harrying invaders, pelting them with bullets from horseback, then racing away, leading Chaos forces into ambushes.
I do the same! I got the WGA Afghans to use in Warlords of Erehwon. If you want cavalry to match and can wait a minute I know that WGA is also working on a box of Afghan cavalry supposedly being released later this year.
The Wargames Atlantic minis are very good. I painted up a unit of teen and there were plenty of pose options and lots of spares for the bits box. I will mix in some of the Perry minis for variety. Good review. Thanks.
Thanks for providing this comparison. Very helpful. Given the historical era, the British accent gives this review something extra for Americans like me!
I bought a box of the WA one and really love them. I didn't know that Perry just did one too. I guess I'll have to pick up a box of those as well. I'm hoping Muskets & Tomahawks does a book for the Afghan Wars.
I think Perry shade it for me - although you get slightly less in a box but that box is £5 cheaper means for every £100 spent you actually get the best part of a box of figures ‘free’ for the same spend against WA. Also Martini- Henry’s weren’t commonly available to native forces. Indeed, even Britain’s own colonial troops weren’t issued any but were always kept one rifle design behind those carried by British Regulars...native forces, such as the Zulus, were only able to attain large numbers of MHs as a result of victory in battle (iSandhlwana and nTombe Drift).
Personally I would play first Afghan war so the modern rifles don’t matter to me. I’d go for style over price and I’m always a fan of Perry’s but some nice WA minis to mix it up is golden :)
@@WeightofFire my point about price is that native armies in the C19th colonial wars were always numerically superior to their colonial counterparts so from this perspective I would go for Perry as you can flesh out such armies more easily than with WA. I would still include WA if only to add some additional variety, as you point out both are pretty similar size wise. I’ve just bought a couple of sprues of their Napoleonic Riflemen to make Sharpe, Harper and the Chosen Men...great models, and a great match to my Perry French Dragoons and Victrix Light Company. As for the Afghan weapons - my point is that the Afghans were still fighting with pretty much the same weapons in the Second Afghan War as in the first.
Given the differences in height/proportions of human beings I'd to say that these figures are well done, being compatible btw them open a lot of possibilities for mixing parts. Plus I just saw on WGA site some STL files for converting in modern guerrillas, with modern weapons such as AK-47s and RPGs.
I'm not much interested in historical wargaming as such, but I love researching historical wargame models as cheaper and more flavorful alternatives to _fantasy_ wargame models. Looking at these Afghan warrior boxes has me tempted to start a Warhammer: Age of Sigmar army, using these instead of the standard Landsknecht style human military forces in that game. Have the regiment's "lore" being that they were natives to Aqshy, the realm of fire, that survived for centuries during the occupation by the evil forces of Chaos. Engaging in guerilla warfare - hit and run tactics - and generally using their understanding of the arid Aqshy landscape to their advantage. I got inspired by reading up on the actual Afghan Wars, and how the tribesmen operated in such a manner against the British.
I was also thinking I might vary the ranks of the force by sticking some Afghan heads onto the bodies of Napoleonic cavalry models. I don't know if Real Life Afghan tribesmen used horses. But since I'm making up a fantasy army with its own lore, I'd be able to give them whatever kind of help I like. Mounted scouts harrying invaders, pelting them with bullets from horseback, then racing away, leading Chaos forces into ambushes.
wow that sounds like an awesome idea
I do the same! I got the WGA Afghans to use in Warlords of Erehwon. If you want cavalry to match and can wait a minute I know that WGA is also working on a box of Afghan cavalry supposedly being released later this year.
@@atlasallen-manning6092 I know. I'm waiting for the cavalry box to come in before ordering.
This is great to see side by side. Thanks for the presentation choice!
The Wargames Atlantic minis are very good. I painted up a unit of teen and there were plenty of pose options and lots of spares for the bits box. I will mix in some of the Perry minis for variety. Good review. Thanks.
Thanks
Thanks for providing this comparison. Very helpful. Given the historical era, the British accent gives this review something extra for Americans like me!
Thanks for the review. I love it when the sizes of different sets work.
Yeah amazing to have so many good sets out at the minute
I bought a box of the WA one and really love them. I didn't know that Perry just did one too. I guess I'll have to pick up a box of those as well. I'm hoping Muskets & Tomahawks does a book for the Afghan Wars.
I think Perry shade it for me - although you get slightly less in a box but that box is £5 cheaper means for every £100 spent you actually get the best part of a box of figures ‘free’ for the same spend against WA. Also Martini- Henry’s weren’t commonly available to native forces. Indeed, even Britain’s own colonial troops weren’t issued any but were always kept one rifle design behind those carried by British Regulars...native forces, such as the Zulus, were only able to attain large numbers of MHs as a result of victory in battle (iSandhlwana and nTombe Drift).
Personally I would play first Afghan war so the modern rifles don’t matter to me. I’d go for style over price and I’m always a fan of Perry’s but some nice WA minis to mix it up is golden :)
@@WeightofFire my point about price is that native armies in the C19th colonial wars were always numerically superior to their colonial counterparts so from this perspective I would go for Perry as you can flesh out such armies more easily than with WA. I would still include WA if only to add some additional variety, as you point out both are pretty similar size wise. I’ve just bought a couple of sprues of their Napoleonic Riflemen to make Sharpe, Harper and the Chosen Men...great models, and a great match to my Perry French Dragoons and Victrix Light Company. As for the Afghan weapons - my point is that the Afghans were still fighting with pretty much the same weapons in the Second Afghan War as in the first.
Thanks for the review!
No probs, thanks for making such great minis!
@@WeightofFire many many more on the way. Have seven new ones in tooling right now
@@wargamesatlantic4740 wow literally wow!
Given the differences in height/proportions of human beings I'd to say that these figures are well done, being compatible btw them open a lot of possibilities for mixing parts. Plus I just saw on WGA site some STL files for converting in modern guerrillas, with modern weapons such as AK-47s and RPGs.
Good review. Any idea how well it'd work to kitbash them? Perry arms on WA bodies, or vice versa?
@@eddymercan7487 thanks. i think pretty well as the flowing robes are very easy to hide any issues with lines
Are the parts (with a bit of cutting and filing) interchangeable? Do you feel the two boxes are compatible?
Yes I’ve not tried myself but they look like they should be
Bit late, but WA are doing a box of mounted
Yes very exciting indeed
Nice video mate, what rules are you going for ?
To start with I’ll do skirmish with the man who would be king by Osprey. For larger games I’m not sure tbh
@@WeightofFire I’ve been working on some 6mm Zulus to use with that rules set.
Thanks for the video!
WELL DONE BUDDY
thanks man
I must ask how many does both of those miniatures pack cost?
pity atlantic games does not bring a commande farme and flages
I think you could make good chieftain models from what’s in the box. A banner bearer would need some modelling though