Legends of PV exiting showers... (wtf? ^^') and mine-fields on YT (because of EXPLOSIVE content ideas i guess... yeah, i know he wrote "mind filled", but at least my version had a pun) amalgamated into ONE weird sentence with a lot of sexual subtext. youtube everyone, yay! edit: "shower" because of his wet-gel-hairstyle? or do you mean a brainwashing shower that fills his mind? X_x (lol look at me taking potshots in the dark here ^^)
This is by far my favorite content on your channel, being able to listen to you break down your thought process is both really and interesting and just fun. Keep up the great work!
Whenever I watch these I go “yea, yea, yea, yea. (Usually think the same as he does) then I go whaaaaaaa” about turn 7-9 (and his analysis is chess when I play checkers ) where things tend to matter.
Your level of analysis just blows me away. I'm a gold league player who gets to platinum about 50% of the time. I am utterly amazed at the levels of strategy in the game that I am completely oblivious to.
Man, every time I think that I understand how to play this game at a more in depth level, PVDDR opens his mouth and spits pure genius analysis. This proves that there are levels to this game that only a select few can ever hope to achieve. Great analysis, thanks for this.
This kind of video is super interesting in my opinion. It's like an answer for how the person makes math in their mind and consequently understanding the thinking process and maybe why that person makes mental calculations so fast. This sort of video also helps people to learn from unseen possibilities (which for me were vast in this seemingly simple turns) and consider spending more time thinking and hypothesizing during matches, and therefore getting better.
Yeah I think a lot of the time people aren't even thinking that they have a decision, if it helps you knowing there was a decision to make to begin with that's already useful I think
Thank god. I've finally found an MTG creator that has really insightful replays instead of just playing draft over and over....or pack openings all of the time.
along with the red aggro play analysis, this is my favorite content so far (though its all been great). hope to see more videos like this in the future - its fascinating to hear you describe decision tress about plays/choices many people wouldn't even consider.
Thanks it's very interesting and inspiring. You showed me how you can make a bad mistake and still win by refocusing and adjusting your game plan on the fly. Can't wait to see more!
Hey, here's an idea: a video about how you evaluate deck selection. For example, how did you come to the conclusion that WW would be a good deck to play on this particular MPL, etc.
I mostly write about my thought processes in deck selection on starcitygames.com after every tournament, but I'll consider doing a video on a more general basis
The legend continues. I've heard other people talk about how good PV is at post game analysis. It's hard to look at your own games that way. I'm gonna try and do it more so I can not suck so much.
Dude, you're great! Keep it going, this is gold for us, smaller players 🤘 Never really had much pride on brazilian athletes, not a big soccer fan, but watching your videos makes me think again. Congrats!
Here is one idea (looking from outside and having your thought process information). In the turn where you think about the second alseid from the opponent you already have the game: You were afraid of the giant killer. But you have 5 lands, one alseid and the maul. Play the alseid. Put the maul on GIANT KILLER, avoiding the 4 power, give white protection to the hallowblade. Attack unblockable for 5 + 3 + 3. Hallowblade attacks then you protect it before declaring blockers, this way you could protect in response or make him indestructible in response. You had the game bro. Of course I wouldn't have lived so long. So well played!!
Awesome in deep analysis! Ty so much. I want myself to start getting into competitive scene, so your videos keep sticking myself to this plan. Thank you
I've been enjoying this content a lot! This time I really liked you laying out which cards they probably had in hand, and why they would hold instead of play those cards to potentially trick you into leaving yourself dead to second Alseid.
Amazing content, PVDDR! I remember reading one article of yours about Aggro Archetype in Channel Fireball, and in this text you divided aggro decks in two categories: decks with reach (using red and entering the "burn zone" comfortably) and decks without reach (usually green or white decks which does not splash red). This video is an excellent thought process explanation for aggro players like me.
It is super useful to get inside your head and experience the match turn by turn from your point of view. Especially with the mistakes you pointed out, which I wouldn't even be aware of. Muito obrigado, cara!
PVDDR! First, you are amazing! I first saw you play only very recently. The last World Championship in Hawaii was the first pro MTG event i have ever watched live. And it was a blast watching you play UW control (my favorite deck style but i am just too bad to be good with it for now). Second, I wanted to give credit to CGB because he is the only reason i learned that you have a youtube channel, and great work on the collab video with him. You are a good teacher, and maybe i will get lessons from you one day. But I am not quite good enough to justify your time yet, haha. Third, great job on this video! I used a similar list a few months ago on my first Mythic qualifier weekend. Did not do well, but i liked the deck. I absolutely love how much you think about the game and the detailed breakdown you did in this video. Also, its a super helpful thing that you kept pointing out in the video with CGB that what really matters is the concept of why you are making each decision, as the exact scenario will never come up again most likely. I have one question about the second to last turn of this game where you go in depth on all the only combination of cards you could lose to. I feel the best option here would be to lead with the Alseid that is in hand, and then that way if he has giant killer he would have to make the decision to play it on your hallowblade before alseid resolves, and then you get to know what is in his hand right then. And then if he casts giant killer you have more info to decide what to do next with attacks. But if he has it but decides to not cast it at that point and lets Alseid resolve, then you cant lose and you win that turn (unless I am missing something, which would not surprise me). But if it resolves, you then play your other land (leaving 4 untapped) and then play skymaul on your giant killer giving you 6 in the air. And then you can sac alseid to protect hallowblade and swing for 11 unblockable? The only thing that prevents you from winning that turn would be double giant killer? But then he doesn't have the 8th land plus Alseid to win next turn anyway? No worries if you never get around to seeing or responding to this. So grateful for your content, and looking forward to watching more of what you have done! Thanks!
Awesome video!! You got me with the breakdown of your second to last turn though! I was like 'how can he go thru every scenario like that in such a short time??' Then, suddenly, you attack with only the Archon. I laughed out loud
I think that this was a great match to analyze. It's shows that even the highest level of players can still lose to variance and how one, 1-mana play can shape a match. Also getting this stuff out from behind a paywall is huge for the Community. I miss the days where most articles and content was free.
PV, on that last turn, let's say you play a land (total 5) and Maul on Hallowblade. Opponent plays Chop Down pre-combat, you discard Alseid protecting Hallowblade and then attack only with the Archon. Opponent's at 6 life. On his turn he drops a land and another Alseid (the mentioned worst case scenario). If at any point he tries to sac an Alseid to give a creature protection, you can pay 2 and tap Giant Killer targeting that creature. So at worst he sacs Alseid 1 targetting his Luminarch, you try to tap it, he sacs Alseid 2 giving it protection. You will take 7 damage (or 8 with the new counter) but his Hallowblade can't become indestructible (no cards in hand). So if he attacks, it's a bad trade with the Apparition. In any case next turn you have Archon + any of the other creatures equipped with the Maul, dealing lethal damage. What did I miss?
Opponent can just go to combat and attack, if you activate giant killer before they attack they sac alseid in response. If you don't then they attack and sac alseid before blocks, at which point you can activate giant killer to tap in response, but their creature is already tapped and attacking.
Yeah, as the good Pedro Yochinori explains. Understanding when and how to 'make the first move' is a very subtle, but very important step of next lvl play, which Pedro describes perfectly.
Hey Paulo, really enjoyed this video, although I've been wrapping my head around your last turn and specifically the percentage play around attacking or not with a flying Seasoned Hallowedblade alongside Archon 30 mins into the video. I've run some math: With 43 cards in your opponent's deck, assuming he has an equal probability of having any card in hand, you'd have a next turn game loss of 1.2% if you didn't attack and 0.8% if you did (1.5x); if you assume he has a plains and a random card those percentages would go to 2.7% and 0.7% respectively (4x) which is already interesting seeing how attacking would be even a better odds play. With that said, what's REALLY interesting is if you assume he has a GK + random card in hand where the risk goes the other way: not attacking 9% vs attacking 14.6%; in essence, you'd be freeing up some of your opponent's next turn mana by allowing an efficient Chop Down on your attack and allowing 2 "draws" for the alseid (the random card in hand + top deck). One step further and assume GK + useless card in hand, the chance of losing drops to zero if you don't attack and to topdecking Alseid if you do; in prrallel, assume GK + alseid in hand, then you're giving yourself guaranteed loss by attacking this turn, reducing it to the chance of your opponent' drawing a plains next turn (13/41). If you assume GK and plains, than whatever you do, you'd lose to him topdekcing an Alseid. (NOTE: i've calculated this with plains probability, not plains OR haven prob of which there are 3 left but the idea is the same). So I think the decision depends a lot on your assumptions. Seeing how the game way playing out it seems suboptimal to assume random cards in hand. The most likely scenario is land + random card in hand which favors attacking, but assuming GK in hand shifts risk-reward the other way and the absolute percentual difference is enormous. I know you play to win but giving the possible outcomes it seems more sensible to not attack as you did. Thoughts? Corrections? --- Cards left in the deck: 43 Video: 30:30 Unique prob for each card Not attacking: 13/43 x 3/42 x 4/41 x 6 Attacking: (4/43 x 13/42 x 2 x 3/41) x 2 Land + random in hand Not attacking: 1 x 4/42 x 3/41 x 4 Attacking: 1 x 4/42 x 3/41 GK + random in hand: Not attacking: 1 x 13/42 x 3/41 x 4 Attacking: 1 x 1 x 3/41 x 2 GK + trash: Not attacking: 0 Attacking: 3/41 GK + alseid: Not attacking: 13/41 Attacking: 1 GK + land: Not attacking: 3/41 Attacking: 3/41 ---
Paulo, just WOW! Great video and explanations! I'm trying to get into competitive magic and your guides are just...... WOAH! I'm playing monowhite auras in modern and this video made me clear about an issue i was having: I thought that i was overthinking in an aggro deck! Oh god was I wrong.... haahahahah Thanks for so much help
Aaaah, eu adoro seus vídeos de análise, sempre aprendo muito contigo! E esse é um dos pontos que eu tenho que melhorar bastante, que são as minhas decisões e também não entrar em desespero🤣. Parabéns pelo conteúdo de ouro ✨✨✨✨✨
@@PVDDRMTG The way You try to cover every angle of what might happen is mind blowing. Thanks to Your videos I learned a lot about the game and how to improve. Keep it up and thanks! :)
It always amazes me how much thought you put into each play. One of the things I'm still getting used to is the "my opponent would've already played it if they had it" line of thinking. Don't worry about sharing mistakes man! You already have an established reputation :) There's a lot we can learn from your mistakes too, especially those of us who make them on a regular basis without even realizing it XD P. S. One of my "favorite" mistakes was losing the Zendikar Rising prerelease event because I forgot I could tap one Rogue to make the other Rogue I had unblockable... Got punished by a Leyline Tyrant next turn.
Yass, the 40 minutes breakdown. I Love It. It's a pity that pausing on Twitch makes the player darker and puts that giant play button. Great shoutout to highlighting improvement/mistakes on your own plays post-game. I do think a Lot of these fundamentals you talked about directly or indirectly are severely overseen in Magic Play (CA, Inevitability, Mana curve). People think it's 5D chess when it's actually a good foundation that makes a great thought process.
The highest ranks i've hit are with agro decks ,even though my favourite decks seem to be midrange. For me ,the best skill one good agro pilot has to master is when they have to go pedal to the metal , target face and start managing mana and top deck percentages(outs). It's that one point that you know you are losing board control and if you keep playing safely you will eventually get outresourced. Sometimes you have to attack into a horrible trade just for the 1-2 extra damage.
Good video, but I needed to be super focused to follow everything in the last discussion and I feel like just a paint piture or something showing the 3 most important scenarios would help alot. You could then point and say this first option is the most likley while this option leads to.. you get the point :) Would also love to see a video about decsison making around making mulligan or not, espcially in draft where I feel its so punishing so I always do it based on lands.
At 27:20 my thought is to wait until he goes to put a counter on his guy at the start of combat, then tap it with your Killer while that's on the stack. If he gives protection to get it through he loses a counter. Oh and play the Alseid first.
Thank you for this amazing and insightful video! Question - would it have been a better play at 20:00 in the video to use the apparition to take out the sword and take 3 from the archon instead of passing the turn? And then kill archon the following turn?
13:00 double block is very good, I was pretty surprised you didn't do it or advocate for it in the analysis. I'd love to make them spend mana to trade when I am a) trying to draw the game out, b) holding cards that make me want to get opponent's cauldron off the board and possibly get them tapped out of Alseid mana, and c) I'm tight on mana and don't expect my alseid to actually be providing protection in the coming turns as I hope to tap out. If they cauldron the 1/2 it takes cauldron off the board when you have archon in hand which is HUGE and consumes their turn which prolongs the game.
All good points, I think it's certainly reasonable to block - I did think a long time about it, but maybe I should have given it more consideration. I also think it's important that this is a trade that he chose to offer. I don't know how much weight to put into this but he thought for a long time and then attacked, so if this outcome is just bad for him he has to be veeery sure I won't go for it, otherwise attacking me for 3 when I'm at 23 doesn't seem worth risking it. Given that I don't think he can be very sure I won't go for it, I think it's reasonable to assume he's fine with this trade if it happens and has a good turn planned out regardless (or possibly really wants this trade), otherwise he just wouldn't have attacked. He can also choose to trade Alseieds instead of Cauldron if for some reason he wants to do that. Obviously he doesn't have perfect information about my hand, so he could be mistaken, but the 3 life is very unlikely to matter at this point, so I have to weight "capitalizing on a possible mistaken attack" versus "falling into his trap and giving him the 2x1 trade he might be looking for that is otherwise not accessible for him" and at the time it was very hard for me to identify which one was happening.
@@PVDDRMTG "My opponent wants X, therefore I bias towards wanting Non-X" is an important concept for sure, but hidden information and skill gaps are where it starts to be unreliable. Here, having Archon in hand creates a pretty big info discrepancy re perceived value of the Cauldron. (Btw, I would also nudge my probability that they have another Cauldron in hand up, given the attack). Without the Archon in hand, I like not blocking, with it in hand, I'd like to to invite my opponent to use their turn to take their Cauldron off board, since it's fairly likely they see us mana screwed and are trying to overweight on proactivity, discounting the value of cauldron on Archon later. But we have an entirely different vantage point on what's likely to play out. If they use Alseid I think that's also good, we get to use ours in response in a spot where we might be tapping out for the next several turns. Thanks for the video and the discussion.
Why didn't you block the Hallowblade instead of the 6/6 Aspirant at 27:00? That would effectively be paying 3 life (going from 11 to 8) to either kill the hallowblade or, more likely, force the opponent to discard a card. That seems like a favorable exchange to me; given the presence of giant killer it seems hard for the aspirant to get protected and kill you by the time it gets to 8 power, and you don't want to lose to throwing away too many resources and just getting out carded. Edit: Wow, incredible analysis a couple turns later on deciding whether or not to attack for lethal! Very precise, covered all the bases. Loving the great content!
@@PVDDRMTG I did just realize that giant killer doesn't help you not die in that situation, so I think I would have made the same play you did. It's still possible to avoid dying to that with Haven (which is a play you thought was correct on the relevant turn, as things ended up) but the difference between 11 and 8 for your freedom of movement on future turns was definitely worth giving up a card.
In my opinion or experience at least, aggro decks are the hardest to play. I find it incredibly tough to decide when to attack and block and decide on which combat lines to take. Casting heartless act, shadow’s verdict and emergent ultimatum is way easier :)
Yeah some control decks (especially tap out ones) are much more trivial to play than aggro, you just play the most expensive card you can at any point heh. Some can be quite hard too though
Haha it's not a new teddy bear, it's quite old! The camera just happened to capture it this time I think. It's a Panda that I brought my (now) wife when I went to China for a Bridge tournament in 2012
On the turn that you draw your third land, is there any consideration for playing the maul, equip it to hallowblade and pass? The first strike would ensure that the opponent can't easily gain life off of alseid and the next turn they also can't block as you can shoot down their archon with cauldron (also circumventing having to pay 1). It might be too agressive of a line and perhaps is too bad versus the opponent having a giant killer, glass casket or maul, but the trade-off potential of winning the next turn is there..I'd be interested to know what you think of taking a line like this versus the play of passing the turn and leaving cauldron up. I hope you will still see this PVDDR, love the analysis video's and thank you for making them!
That's an interesting play, I think there's merit. It's high risk high reward - if they dont have anything I win for sure next turn, but if they have any way to remove a creature I basically lose on the spot. Not sure if it's right to do but definitely something I should have considered more
On the turn you drew the 3rd land, why didn't you play the maul? If they drew a removal or a second archon they would have played it anyways and it would have been really difficult for you to recover from that position. You prefered to pass untapped just to play safer or is there any line of play I am not seeing?
Great video sir! Another amazing analysis and game! On the turn you played your 3rd mana, could you not have played maul and attacked and won? Being that his archon was tapped and he had no reach? Maybe im missing something here but it seems to me that was possible as it attaches when it enters for no cost. What a great game regardless. Depraz is a very, very strong player! We all make mistakes!!
@@PVDDRMTG hahhaahh OMG! i feel so shamed now! Why did I not think of this? I know that card as well. hhahahaahaa aaaaaand thats why you are you and I am me sir!! Thank you!
I don't get it, resp. I miss something. At around 18:00, after he played the Faceless Haven. Wouldn't it be lethal if he then just put the Maul onto the Hallowblade and then hit it in the air?
PV, don't you think there was some value in not exposing the cauldron and letting them play the Archon first, instead of something like a Halvar? Or was it actually wrong to favor the mana for Alseid in this case? 08:06
I haven't seen this consideration yet, but: on the last possible turn, if Giant Killer taps the creature targeted by Luminarch's ability while it's on the stack, wouldn't that stop the 11th power coming on the board because giving pro white by Alseid will fizzle the counter? Is there a timing trick the opponent can pull to avoid this?
Hm this is actually a very interesting play. I had not thought about it and you're correct that no one has mentioned it, not even the people I talked to privately. I'm gonna think about it some more but at first glance I believe this would work, yes. With this line you'd only lose to Giant Killer in hand + Alseied AND Luminarch aspirant (which then would produce the +1 damage you need by splitting the targets), which is a combination that's less likely than any one that involves land. Good find!
I love the analysis but I’ve got to the turn where you draw your 3rd land and I don’t understand why you didn’t just play the skymaul and swing for lethal? Am I missing something?
How would the metagame have to shape so Mono White would be the deck of choise again? At least I have seen in recent tournaments its popularity has dropped a lot compared to other decks.
esse é um tipo de video q me deixou confuso, nao pela falta de explicação, mas sim pelo excesso, porque no meu caso, coloco legendas para entender a explicação hahah, e como tinha um monte de coisas acontecendo no campo e varias linhas de pensamentos, ler e ver o campo e acompanhar a ideia foi dificil haha, mas foi um jogo mais dificil so pelo fato de não vir a terceira land
On Arena you are under rope pressure every turn. The real question is how likely was it that you would find the right play, identified by you, in a paper game.
Legend has it that PVDDR immediately exits the shower with his mind filled with MTG RUclips content ideas
Always :P
Legends of PV exiting showers... (wtf? ^^')
and
mine-fields on YT (because of EXPLOSIVE content ideas i guess...
yeah, i know he wrote "mind filled", but at least my version had a pun)
amalgamated into ONE weird sentence with a lot of sexual subtext. youtube everyone, yay!
edit: "shower" because of his wet-gel-hairstyle? or do you mean a brainwashing shower that fills his mind? X_x
(lol look at me taking potshots in the dark here ^^)
he's Brazillian, so he take A LOT of showers
Being honest with myself here: This video makes me realize that I’m mostly tossing cards around aimlessly.
Very helpful analysis! Thanks for sharing.
This is by far my favorite content on your channel, being able to listen to you break down your thought process is both really and interesting and just fun. Keep up the great work!
Thanks, I'm glad it's useful!
Agree!
The amount of detail and analysis you cover for each turn explains why I'm such a terrible magic player
lol :)
@@PVDDRMTG 💀💀💀
Whenever I watch these I go “yea, yea, yea, yea. (Usually think the same as he does) then I go whaaaaaaa” about turn 7-9 (and his analysis is chess when I play checkers ) where things tend to matter.
Your level of analysis just blows me away. I'm a gold league player who gets to platinum about 50% of the time. I am utterly amazed at the levels of strategy in the game that I am completely oblivious to.
Haha thanks, I'm glad :)
Man, every time I think that I understand how to play this game at a more in depth level, PVDDR opens his mouth and spits pure genius analysis. This proves that there are levels to this game that only a select few can ever hope to achieve. Great analysis, thanks for this.
Thanks, glad it was helpful!
This kind of video is super interesting in my opinion. It's like an answer for how the person makes math in their mind and consequently understanding the thinking process and maybe why that person makes mental calculations so fast. This sort of video also helps people to learn from unseen possibilities (which for me were vast in this seemingly simple turns) and consider spending more time thinking and hypothesizing during matches, and therefore getting better.
Yeah I think a lot of the time people aren't even thinking that they have a decision, if it helps you knowing there was a decision to make to begin with that's already useful I think
Thank god.
I've finally found an MTG creator that has really insightful replays instead of just playing draft over and over....or pack openings all of the time.
I've only seen 3 videos but it's already my favourite source for MTG learning
along with the red aggro play analysis, this is my favorite content so far (though its all been great). hope to see more videos like this in the future - its fascinating to hear you describe decision tress about plays/choices many people wouldn't even consider.
Thanks! I'll try to do more whenever the opportunity presents itself
Thanks it's very interesting and inspiring. You showed me how you can make a bad mistake and still win by refocusing and adjusting your game plan on the fly. Can't wait to see more!
Thanks, glad you liked it!
Hey, here's an idea: a video about how you evaluate deck selection. For example, how did you come to the conclusion that WW would be a good deck to play on this particular MPL, etc.
I mostly write about my thought processes in deck selection on starcitygames.com after every tournament, but I'll consider doing a video on a more general basis
@@PVDDRMTG I think hat would be great content!
Great! 40 minutes of match analysis! So excited.
Yeah it was a pretty long one heh
Great video! A very humbling match to post of RUclips. Aggro is not easy.
Yeah haha but I think it's worth it
The legend continues. I've heard other people talk about how good PV is at post game analysis. It's hard to look at your own games that way. I'm gonna try and do it more so I can not suck so much.
This video confirms for me that MTG will remain a casual hobby.
Dude, you're great! Keep it going, this is gold for us, smaller players 🤘
Never really had much pride on brazilian athletes, not a big soccer fan, but watching your videos makes me think again. Congrats!
Vlw :D
Here is one idea (looking from outside and having your thought process information).
In the turn where you think about the second alseid from the opponent you already have the game:
You were afraid of the giant killer. But you have 5 lands, one alseid and the maul.
Play the alseid. Put the maul on GIANT KILLER, avoiding the 4 power, give white protection to the hallowblade.
Attack unblockable for 5 + 3 + 3.
Hallowblade attacks then you protect it before declaring blockers, this way you could protect in response or make him indestructible in response.
You had the game bro. Of course I wouldn't have lived so long. So well played!!
Sou brasileiro, Paulo!
PV has the best magic content around.
Thanks :D
Awesome in deep analysis! Ty so much. I want myself to start getting into competitive scene, so your videos keep sticking myself to this plan. Thank you
Thx for sharing your detailed thought process, makes us all better magic players
I've been enjoying this content a lot! This time I really liked you laying out which cards they probably had in hand, and why they would hold instead of play those cards to potentially trick you into leaving yourself dead to second Alseid.
Very grateful you did decide to post this match! Thanks! :)
Amazing content, PVDDR! I remember reading one article of yours about Aggro Archetype in Channel Fireball, and in this text you divided aggro decks in two categories: decks with reach (using red and entering the "burn zone" comfortably) and decks without reach (usually green or white decks which does not splash red). This video is an excellent thought process explanation for aggro players like me.
Thank, glad it helped!
It is super useful to get inside your head and experience the match turn by turn from your point of view. Especially with the mistakes you pointed out, which I wouldn't even be aware of.
Muito obrigado, cara!
É impressionante ver o nível de profundidade de detalhes que você pensa e analisa cada jogada. Esses vídeos de review de partida são bons demais!
PVDDR!
First, you are amazing! I first saw you play only very recently. The last World Championship in Hawaii was the first pro MTG event i have ever watched live. And it was a blast watching you play UW control (my favorite deck style but i am just too bad to be good with it for now).
Second, I wanted to give credit to CGB because he is the only reason i learned that you have a youtube channel, and great work on the collab video with him. You are a good teacher, and maybe i will get lessons from you one day. But I am not quite good enough to justify your time yet, haha.
Third, great job on this video! I used a similar list a few months ago on my first Mythic qualifier weekend. Did not do well, but i liked the deck.
I absolutely love how much you think about the game and the detailed breakdown you did in this video. Also, its a super helpful thing that you kept pointing out in the video with CGB that what really matters is the concept of why you are making each decision, as the exact scenario will never come up again most likely.
I have one question about the second to last turn of this game where you go in depth on all the only combination of cards you could lose to.
I feel the best option here would be to lead with the Alseid that is in hand, and then that way if he has giant killer he would have to make the decision to play it on your hallowblade before alseid resolves, and then you get to know what is in his hand right then. And then if he casts giant killer you have more info to decide what to do next with attacks.
But if he has it but decides to not cast it at that point and lets Alseid resolve, then you cant lose and you win that turn (unless I am missing something, which would not surprise me).
But if it resolves, you then play your other land (leaving 4 untapped) and then play skymaul on your giant killer giving you 6 in the air. And then you can sac alseid to protect hallowblade and swing for 11 unblockable?
The only thing that prevents you from winning that turn would be double giant killer? But then he doesn't have the 8th land plus Alseid to win next turn anyway?
No worries if you never get around to seeing or responding to this. So grateful for your content, and looking forward to watching more of what you have done!
Thanks!
I think showing that you make mistakes makes you more human and a better teacher. Well done.
Awesome video!! You got me with the breakdown of your second to last turn though! I was like 'how can he go thru every scenario like that in such a short time??' Then, suddenly, you attack with only the Archon. I laughed out loud
Haha yeah unfortunately (or fortunately) we can't think about everything during the game
I think that this was a great match to analyze. It's shows that even the highest level of players can still lose to variance and how one, 1-mana play can shape a match. Also getting this stuff out from behind a paywall is huge for the Community. I miss the days where most articles and content was free.
PV, on that last turn, let's say you play a land (total 5) and Maul on Hallowblade. Opponent plays Chop Down pre-combat, you discard Alseid protecting Hallowblade and then attack only with the Archon. Opponent's at 6 life. On his turn he drops a land and another Alseid (the mentioned worst case scenario). If at any point he tries to sac an Alseid to give a creature protection, you can pay 2 and tap Giant Killer targeting that creature. So at worst he sacs Alseid 1 targetting his Luminarch, you try to tap it, he sacs Alseid 2 giving it protection. You will take 7 damage (or 8 with the new counter) but his Hallowblade can't become indestructible (no cards in hand). So if he attacks, it's a bad trade with the Apparition. In any case next turn you have Archon + any of the other creatures equipped with the Maul, dealing lethal damage. What did I miss?
Opponent can just go to combat and attack, if you activate giant killer before they attack they sac alseid in response. If you don't then they attack and sac alseid before blocks, at which point you can activate giant killer to tap in response, but their creature is already tapped and attacking.
@@pedroyochinori8371 See, I knew I was missing something. Thanks man.
Yeah, as the good Pedro Yochinori explains. Understanding when and how to 'make the first move' is a very subtle, but very important step of next lvl play, which Pedro describes perfectly.
Fantastic analysis PV! Hindsight is 20/20 for sure lol Always progressing, keep them coming good sir
Hey Paulo, really enjoyed this video, although I've been wrapping my head around your last turn and specifically the percentage play around attacking or not with a flying Seasoned Hallowedblade alongside Archon 30 mins into the video. I've run some math:
With 43 cards in your opponent's deck, assuming he has an equal probability of having any card in hand, you'd have a next turn game loss of 1.2% if you didn't attack and 0.8% if you did (1.5x); if you assume he has a plains and a random card those percentages would go to 2.7% and 0.7% respectively (4x) which is already interesting seeing how attacking would be even a better odds play. With that said, what's REALLY interesting is if you assume he has a GK + random card in hand where the risk goes the other way: not attacking 9% vs attacking 14.6%; in essence, you'd be freeing up some of your opponent's next turn mana by allowing an efficient Chop Down on your attack and allowing 2 "draws" for the alseid (the random card in hand + top deck). One step further and assume GK + useless card in hand, the chance of losing drops to zero if you don't attack and to topdecking Alseid if you do; in prrallel, assume GK + alseid in hand, then you're giving yourself guaranteed loss by attacking this turn, reducing it to the chance of your opponent' drawing a plains next turn (13/41). If you assume GK and plains, than whatever you do, you'd lose to him topdekcing an Alseid. (NOTE: i've calculated this with plains probability, not plains OR haven prob of which there are 3 left but the idea is the same).
So I think the decision depends a lot on your assumptions. Seeing how the game way playing out it seems suboptimal to assume random cards in hand. The most likely scenario is land + random card in hand which favors attacking, but assuming GK in hand shifts risk-reward the other way and the absolute percentual difference is enormous. I know you play to win but giving the possible outcomes it seems more sensible to not attack as you did.
Thoughts? Corrections?
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Cards left in the deck: 43
Video: 30:30
Unique prob for each card
Not attacking: 13/43 x 3/42 x 4/41 x 6
Attacking: (4/43 x 13/42 x 2 x 3/41) x 2
Land + random in hand
Not attacking: 1 x 4/42 x 3/41 x 4
Attacking: 1 x 4/42 x 3/41
GK + random in hand:
Not attacking: 1 x 13/42 x 3/41 x 4
Attacking: 1 x 1 x 3/41 x 2
GK + trash:
Not attacking: 0
Attacking: 3/41
GK + alseid:
Not attacking: 13/41
Attacking: 1
GK + land:
Not attacking: 3/41
Attacking: 3/41
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man... seriously reevaluating the concept of "mistake". This is insane
Paulo, just WOW! Great video and explanations! I'm trying to get into competitive magic and your guides are just...... WOAH! I'm playing monowhite auras in modern and this video made me clear about an issue i was having: I thought that i was overthinking in an aggro deck! Oh god was I wrong.... haahahahah Thanks for so much help
Aaaah, eu adoro seus vídeos de análise, sempre aprendo muito contigo! E esse é um dos pontos que eu tenho que melhorar bastante, que são as minhas decisões e também não entrar em desespero🤣. Parabéns pelo conteúdo de ouro ✨✨✨✨✨
vlw :D
This channel is truly some kind of magic.
Thanks for the video PV!I would love to see more of your game analysis!
Thanks! I'll try to have more whenever I have interesting games
My god, that was impressive.
That I managed to play so badly and still win? I agree =(
@@PVDDRMTG The way You try to cover every angle of what might happen is mind blowing. Thanks to Your videos I learned a lot about the game and how to improve. Keep it up and thanks! :)
It always amazes me how much thought you put into each play. One of the things I'm still getting used to is the "my opponent would've already played it if they had it" line of thinking.
Don't worry about sharing mistakes man! You already have an established reputation :) There's a lot we can learn from your mistakes too, especially those of us who make them on a regular basis without even realizing it XD
P. S. One of my "favorite" mistakes was losing the Zendikar Rising prerelease event because I forgot I could tap one Rogue to make the other Rogue I had unblockable... Got punished by a Leyline Tyrant next turn.
Thanks, glad you liked it :)
I've been looking forward to finding time to watch this video!
Amazing work, Paulo. Love your analysis. It provides a lot of value to all mtg players
Thanks :D
Yass, the 40 minutes breakdown. I Love It. It's a pity that pausing on Twitch makes the player darker and puts that giant play button. Great shoutout to highlighting improvement/mistakes on your own plays post-game. I do think a Lot of these fundamentals you talked about directly or indirectly are severely overseen in Magic Play (CA, Inevitability, Mana curve). People think it's 5D chess when it's actually a good foundation that makes a great thought process.
Yeah not sure how to improve the "lighting" on that =(
@@PVDDRMTG Probably you'd have to download the file and play in your pc or pause in the editor
Haha, this short circuited my brain, but I do enjoy the deep dive into decision making
"And after 5 minutes of consideration I did not do that" 😆
Why not play Maul on 20:00 and attach to Hallowblade?
It would threaten lethal with no blockers on the board
Had the same thought. Looks like lethal to me.
If he attaches maul, he can't attack because archon taxes 1 for each attacker.
Great analysis and being open about it. Great content.
Thanks!
Been playing magic wrong for the last 12 years.
Next : recording my games and accepting mistakes.
Thanks for the Good content!
Please do a booster draft guide! I'd love to see your general thought process to navigate a draft
I havent been playing much booster draft lately, but maybe in the future
The highest ranks i've hit are with agro decks ,even though my favourite decks seem to be midrange.
For me ,the best skill one good agro pilot has to master is when they have to go pedal to the metal , target face and start managing mana and top deck percentages(outs).
It's that one point that you know you are losing board control and if you keep playing safely you will eventually get outresourced.
Sometimes you have to attack into a horrible trade just for the 1-2 extra damage.
The panda behind Paulo is suuuuuper cute
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Good video, but I needed to be super focused to follow everything in the last discussion and I feel like just a paint piture or something showing the 3 most important scenarios would help alot. You could then point and say this first option is the most likley while this option leads to.. you get the point :)
Would also love to see a video about decsison making around making mulligan or not, espcially in draft where I feel its so punishing so I always do it based on lands.
Really, really interesting analysis. Thanks PV!
Thanks, glad you liked it!
At 27:20 my thought is to wait until he goes to put a counter on his guy at the start of combat, then tap it with your Killer while that's on the stack. If he gives protection to get it through he loses a counter.
Oh and play the Alseid first.
Thanks you for another vídeo PVDDR!
This video, my friend, is gold
Thanks!
Thank you for this amazing and insightful video! Question - would it have been a better play at 20:00 in the video to use the apparition to take out the sword and take 3 from the archon instead of passing the turn? And then kill archon the following turn?
13:00 double block is very good, I was pretty surprised you didn't do it or advocate for it in the analysis. I'd love to make them spend mana to trade when I am a) trying to draw the game out, b) holding cards that make me want to get opponent's cauldron off the board and possibly get them tapped out of Alseid mana, and c) I'm tight on mana and don't expect my alseid to actually be providing protection in the coming turns as I hope to tap out. If they cauldron the 1/2 it takes cauldron off the board when you have archon in hand which is HUGE and consumes their turn which prolongs the game.
All good points, I think it's certainly reasonable to block - I did think a long time about it, but maybe I should have given it more consideration.
I also think it's important that this is a trade that he chose to offer. I don't know how much weight to put into this but he thought for a long time and then attacked, so if this outcome is just bad for him he has to be veeery sure I won't go for it, otherwise attacking me for 3 when I'm at 23 doesn't seem worth risking it. Given that I don't think he can be very sure I won't go for it, I think it's reasonable to assume he's fine with this trade if it happens and has a good turn planned out regardless (or possibly really wants this trade), otherwise he just wouldn't have attacked. He can also choose to trade Alseieds instead of Cauldron if for some reason he wants to do that. Obviously he doesn't have perfect information about my hand, so he could be mistaken, but the 3 life is very unlikely to matter at this point, so I have to weight "capitalizing on a possible mistaken attack" versus "falling into his trap and giving him the 2x1 trade he might be looking for that is otherwise not accessible for him" and at the time it was very hard for me to identify which one was happening.
@@PVDDRMTG "My opponent wants X, therefore I bias towards wanting Non-X" is an important concept for sure, but hidden information and skill gaps are where it starts to be unreliable. Here, having Archon in hand creates a pretty big info discrepancy re perceived value of the Cauldron. (Btw, I would also nudge my probability that they have another Cauldron in hand up, given the attack). Without the Archon in hand, I like not blocking, with it in hand, I'd like to to invite my opponent to use their turn to take their Cauldron off board, since it's fairly likely they see us mana screwed and are trying to overweight on proactivity, discounting the value of cauldron on Archon later. But we have an entirely different vantage point on what's likely to play out. If they use Alseid I think that's also good, we get to use ours in response in a spot where we might be tapping out for the next several turns. Thanks for the video and the discussion.
22:30 The Arena shuffler can tilt even hall of famers into making silly mistakes
Why didn't you block the Hallowblade instead of the 6/6 Aspirant at 27:00? That would effectively be paying 3 life (going from 11 to 8) to either kill the hallowblade or, more likely, force the opponent to discard a card. That seems like a favorable exchange to me; given the presence of giant killer it seems hard for the aspirant to get protected and kill you by the time it gets to 8 power, and you don't want to lose to throwing away too many resources and just getting out carded.
Edit: Wow, incredible analysis a couple turns later on deciding whether or not to attack for lethal! Very precise, covered all the bases. Loving the great content!
I think going to 8 life would be too dangerous facing the Aspirant + the Alseied - that would just kill me in 2 turns as it was already a 6/6
@@PVDDRMTG I did just realize that giant killer doesn't help you not die in that situation, so I think I would have made the same play you did. It's still possible to avoid dying to that with Haven (which is a play you thought was correct on the relevant turn, as things ended up) but the difference between 11 and 8 for your freedom of movement on future turns was definitely worth giving up a card.
Caraca hein.. video top. Fiquei vidrado aqui nas análises e decisões. O mestre falou.
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This video is so incredibly helpful!! Thank you so much!!
In my opinion or experience at least, aggro decks are the hardest to play. I find it incredibly tough to decide when to attack and block and decide on which combat lines to take. Casting heartless act, shadow’s verdict and emergent ultimatum is way easier :)
Yeah some control decks (especially tap out ones) are much more trivial to play than aggro, you just play the most expensive card you can at any point heh. Some can be quite hard too though
New great video and new teddy bear in the background as well. Talking about a double whammy!
Haha it's not a new teddy bear, it's quite old! The camera just happened to capture it this time I think. It's a Panda that I brought my (now) wife when I went to China for a Bridge tournament in 2012
On the turn that you draw your third land, is there any consideration for playing the maul, equip it to hallowblade and pass? The first strike would ensure that the opponent can't easily gain life off of alseid and the next turn they also can't block as you can shoot down their archon with cauldron (also circumventing having to pay 1). It might be too agressive of a line and perhaps is too bad versus the opponent having a giant killer, glass casket or maul, but the trade-off potential of winning the next turn is there..I'd be interested to know what you think of taking a line like this versus the play of passing the turn and leaving cauldron up. I hope you will still see this PVDDR, love the analysis video's and thank you for making them!
That's an interesting play, I think there's merit. It's high risk high reward - if they dont have anything I win for sure next turn, but if they have any way to remove a creature I basically lose on the spot. Not sure if it's right to do but definitely something I should have considered more
Cara aprendo muito com você! Além de muito bem explicado, cada vídeo é muito divertido de assistir. Parabéns pelo conteúdo de excelente qualidade!!
Vlw :D
Nem comecei a ver e ja curti! Esse tipo de video vindo de voce nao tem como nao ser bom!
:D
Can you do a video on how to play tempo decks in modern or legacy? Something similar to Legacy Delver?
Is there a reason you didn't equip maul and attack when you drew the third land, or did I miss something?
Archon tax
We need a CGB reaction video to this.
I love this video
Ótimo video !!!! Muito raro criador de conteúdo fazer estas análises, parabéns man !!!
On the turn you drew the 3rd land, why didn't you play the maul? If they drew a removal or a second archon they would have played it anyways and it would have been really difficult for you to recover from that position.
You prefered to pass untapped just to play safer or is there any line of play I am not seeing?
Great video sir! Another amazing analysis and game! On the turn you played your 3rd mana, could you not have played maul and attacked and won? Being that his archon was tapped and he had no reach? Maybe im missing something here but it seems to me that was possible as it attaches when it enters for no cost. What a great game regardless. Depraz is a very, very strong player! We all make mistakes!!
I couldn't attack because the Archon forces me to pay 1
@@PVDDRMTG hahhaahh OMG! i feel so shamed now! Why did I not think of this? I know that card as well. hhahahaahaa aaaaaand thats why you are you and I am me sir!! Thank you!
I don't get it, resp. I miss something. At around 18:00, after he played the Faceless Haven. Wouldn't it be lethal if he then just put the Maul onto the Hallowblade and then hit it in the air?
PV, don't you think there was some value in not exposing the cauldron and letting them play the Archon first, instead of something like a Halvar? Or was it actually wrong to favor the mana for Alseid in this case? 08:06
I think using the mana is just more important
I haven't seen this consideration yet, but: on the last possible turn, if Giant Killer taps the creature targeted by Luminarch's ability while it's on the stack, wouldn't that stop the 11th power coming on the board because giving pro white by Alseid will fizzle the counter? Is there a timing trick the opponent can pull to avoid this?
Hm this is actually a very interesting play. I had not thought about it and you're correct that no one has mentioned it, not even the people I talked to privately. I'm gonna think about it some more but at first glance I believe this would work, yes. With this line you'd only lose to Giant Killer in hand + Alseied AND Luminarch aspirant (which then would produce the +1 damage you need by splitting the targets), which is a combination that's less likely than any one that involves land. Good find!
The hardest thing for me to overcome is getting stuck on two lands and still having the will to fight on. Hahaha.
Wow that's insane! Great content, curently mythic and trying to grind to the billboard. I wish you could coach me!
I do coaching, just msg me on twitter if you're interested :P
I love the analysis but I’ve got to the turn where you draw your 3rd land and I don’t understand why you didn’t just play the skymaul and swing for lethal? Am I missing something?
Yeah, I can't because of the Archon attacking tax
So at 19 min in what was wrong with casting the skyclave and putting it on the hallowblade and swing in for 7 while the archon was tapped?
Brilliant, thanks a lot
PV Legend
How would the metagame have to shape so Mono White would be the deck of choise again? At least I have seen in recent tournaments its popularity has dropped a lot compared to other decks.
Paulo vitor dance dance revolution
Mindblowing
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caramba, que video! inacredit[avel, depois de um erro daqueles ainda desenvolveu o jogo tod, e cada detalhe
! muito legal!
Obrigado, que bom que gostou!
AMAZING video!
esse é um tipo de video q me deixou confuso, nao pela falta de explicação, mas sim pelo excesso, porque no meu caso, coloco legendas para entender a explicação hahah, e como tinha um monte de coisas acontecendo no campo e varias linhas de pensamentos, ler e ver o campo e acompanhar a ideia foi dificil haha, mas foi um jogo mais dificil so pelo fato de não vir a terceira land
Ver como um profissional pensa o jogo é incrível. Make mono W great again kkkkkk
Vlw :D
Can't you just maul and hold up giant killer activation to play around 2nd alcied?
I feel I'm back to chess
Thanks, glad you liked it!
On Arena you are under rope pressure every turn. The real question is how likely was it that you would find the right play, identified by you, in a paper game.
Really depends on the play, at the end there likely wouldn't be enough time for an analysis either
At 19:45: why not play the Maul on the Hallowblade and attack for the win?
Because I have to pay 1 for the Archon
@@PVDDRMTG thanks. Confused it with the other archon.
I am sorry, but why not attaching Maul to Hallowblade and swing in for the win at 19:50 ? What am i missing here?
I need to pay 1 for Archon
nevermind you answered it already in 31:00 , thanks for your content, i love it!
@@PVDDRMTG oh right! Wow I am totally in the right rank with platin 😁 thank you for the teaching
thank you
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Po, podia gravar algo em português também 🥺
Senti falta das legendas em PT-BR ;-;
Would you play this deck this weekend in an event? If so, would there be any changes to the list?
Right this moment I don't think I'd play it
@@PVDDRMTG Thank you for the reply! So what would you play? Give me that super secret tech please.
Wait, why can’t we just equip the maul when we draw the third land at 20 min in and kill them?
Archon makes it costs 1 mana to attack for each creature
Salve pv, queria saber pq em alguns vídeos a legenda ptbr fica bugada.
Oi, esse video nao tem legenda em PT! A partir de agora nao vai ter
@@PVDDRMTG triste, porém entendo que deve dar um trabalho do inferno pra legendar o vídeo todo