The AX3000 also has 1 less core than the AX56U which makes the AX3000 actually slower than the AX56U meaning it is a Tricore at the same 1.5GHz speed where as the RX56U has a quad core 1.5GHz
Probabil cel mai bun router Wifi 6, internet Digi 1Gbs + TP-LINK XZ000-G3 (GPON primit la instalare noua, automat in mod bridge). Setari recomandate: - AiProtection - Network Protection: On - Adaptive Qos - Bandwidth Monitor: Off - Adaptive Qos - Qos: Off - Traffic Analyzer: On - Wireless - General - Enable Smart Connect: Off (Recomandat, evitati probleme si incompatibilitati pe diferite dispozitive) - Wireless - General - Target Wake Time: Disable si pe 2.4 si pe 5 Ghz (Enable - activeaza internetul peste noapte, functie sensibila) - Wireless - Professional - Roaming Assistant - si pe 2.4 si pe 5 Ghz: Disable sau -70 dBm (Nimic diferit) ) - Wireless - Professional - Modulation Scheme - si pe 2.4 si pe 5 Ghz: Up to MCS 11 - Wireless - Professional - Multi-User MIMO: Disable (2.4 Ghz) Enable (5 Ghz) - Wireless - Professional - OFDMA/802.11ax MU-MIMO: DL/UL OFDMA + MU MIMO (5Ghz only) - LAN - DHCP Server - Lease Time: 86400 (pentru cei care fac streaming, live-uri sau joaca jocuri online) - LAN - Switch Control - Jumbo Frame: Disable (Recomandat) (Jumbo frame este de fapt NAT hardware - Daca selectati Enable boostează viteza (nu este necesar la Digi) însă poate cauza lag si delay în jocuri online deoarece internetul este filtrat prin procesorul routerului. Pe alte routere precum TP-LINK/TENDA/MERCUSYS functia este activata si ascunsa). - WAN - Internet Connection - UPNP: No - WAN - Nat Passthrough: PPPoe Relay: Disable - IPv6: Disable - Administration - System - NTP Server: time. Cloudflare. Com sau 1. Ro. Pool. Ntp. Org - Administration - System - Enable Reboot Scheduler: In fiecare zi (De preferat intre 6 si 8) Info: - nu setati securitatea parolei Wpa3 (unele dispozitive gen: aer conditionat, robot aspirator, tv, tableta, telefon, etc nu suporta Wpa3 si veti spune ca e de vina routerul). Semnalul trece prin tot apartamentul cu pereti grosi (bloc vechi). Pe banda de 2.4 Ghz dau net si la vecini 4-5 etaje.
The graphic at 1:12 is misleading. It shows the difference between the AX3000 and all other 802.11ac routers (note the *AC*). That graphic doesn't include the AX56U which uses the *AX* standard, not AC.
I have the AX56U, It works amazing. I highly recommend any Asus router that is still getting WRT-Merlin updates However ill probably end up moving to a dedicated pfSense box in the future.
Hi, Pat. I have the RT AX56U model. It gives me a lot of "Network access denied" error while connecting to the router. It is using the latest firmware. Settings are correct and it has been rebooted several times. At the moment, the router's dashboard shows 1 device which is my laptop and another one, my phone, it shows network access denied. Last night it is OK.
what is the best device for AiMesh only. because i already have a AX86U Gaming router as my main router. i wanted to get rid of my TP-link Power Line / Range extender that is capped at 100mbps. (and that's over both Wired & Wifi) AX1800 Seems decent value, money wise. But how much range am i sacrificing with two less antennas compared to the AX3000
The interchangeable pronunciation of the word "router" grates against my ears, though having married an American, I understand the use of both. I still feel the need to complain.
@@TechManPat mmmm.... I don't get that impression. Certainly even noobs building their computers for the first time always have m.2 drives. I think youtube/forum build guides in the last year have all had nvme because there is very little price difference.
@@a9503128 well I've spent a month trying to work out what you mean, and I've given up lol. are you asking why computers in the same house need to communicate with each other? or why do people have a NAS? Something like that?
hey,, im having trouble at my current internet connection,, my pc having high packet loss everytime im playing any online game, it ussualy stays around 10-15% which make it unplayable and it spikes to 60-70% sometimes, vpn such as exitlag or wtfast does help me quite alot but not completely. but then i notice my brother's pc having no issue at all 0% packet loss and stable connection, we are currently connected directly to the modem via cable,, our house have like 8-10 devices (only 3 wired) and 20mbps down and 8up most of it is just light use of the internet.. do i need these kind of router for better internet connectivity? should i buy some decent router anyway?
If your brother is having no issues - it might be a waste of money. Better to investigate other things. For example, swapping out the ethernet cable is a cheap thing taht's worth trying (check the rating of the cable too). It *could* be the router, although it's strange if your borther is getting no issues, but other things need ruling out first. It's also worth running some packet loss tests using a Live USB of Ubuntu on your computer. This will allow you to try another OS without messing with your current install. Note that download speeds will likely much slower on a USB install, so don't try testing speed on it, just packet loss and stability related things.
can you do a review on the best router/s for ofmodemsandmen openwrt alternative to stock firmware. I currently use a TP-Link Archer C7 v5 with that firmware to allow my phone's 4g hotspot to be used if wan port goes offline to allow my tv and other devices to continue working. It is also very handy for taking on international trips and hotel wifi has hard limit on number of ip's given out etc.
@@LockheedMartinF-22Raptor-y8i Its hard to say because they all make junk. You have to do research on different model numbers. I know I'm never buying Asus again. Another great company went down the drain. TP-Link has always been junk
7:47 ASUS really want you to think you can have a wireless mesh, wirelessly connecting multiple routers, but the wifi strength/speed to do this doesn't actually exist even with the AX3000. You really only have enough wireless bandwidth (or processing power?) for one person to receive (or send) wifi at full speed, and if it has to share the bandwidth maintaining a link to another router your experience will start to degrade. Also intermittent interference will cause connection to drop between routers causing the connection to drop and then it won't retry (to reconnect between mesh routers) and you will have to reboot your routers every day 👍. --I HAVE solved this problem by connecting my aiMesh with a wired connection using Ethernet-Over-Power (powerline) to get the convenience of a completely wireless system though with 2xAX3000 routers.
8:10 By saying "end up buying separate mesh devices to extend wifi..." vs "you can connect it directly to this with other Asus mesh devices" do you mean that if buying mesh routers separately from different brand requires efforts to setup and troubleshoot while using Asus routers with AiMesh, we can simply get it done via the menu by just few clicks?
Asus branded ai mesh devices will be controlled by the single router if you have different brands you will have two seperate admin panels to control. And it won’t utilise this modem as part of the mesh
Thanks for the video! While you’re right that I’d be fine with the AX1800 speeds, my main concern is range. Disregarding mesh, would the AX3000 give further range since it’s got more speed to drop off from? Is the much significance in that?
Very confusing the difference between brands, let alone between the same brand. There is the Asus AX3000 router and an Asus TUF AX3000 router. Not that I can see much of a difference with the specs sheet, at first glance the TUF version says it has _a 1.5GHz tri-core processor, and that data rate transfer is 802.11ax (5GHz) : up to 2402 Mbps_ whereas the one mentioned in your review has _a 1.5GHz quad-core processor, and that data rate transfer is 802.11ax (5GHz) : up to 1201 Mbps_ Everything else "seems" to be the same specs (without a more indepth reading of the specs), so would you say the TUF version would be a better version because of the data rate transfer on the Wifi 6 or would the quad core processor be the better option? Price difference between both is basically negligible with the TUF being about $10 more. Any thoughts on this?
but it doesn't seem like it looking at stock levels... I guess I was wrong. But there is a third version now, that's called a "gaming" version (RT-AX86U AX5700) for $430... it has 4x4 antenna array instead of 2x2... I would definitely get that if you have multiple people gaming. I am having issues with the ax3000 with multiple people playing killingfloor2, people furthest away from the router start lagging.
With FTTN have have tried expensive ones and made 0 difference in speed compared to free one from ISP. I even found the free one ran faster than an $300 TPlink
THAT particular higher speed transfer rate for the more expensive router - you must've mentioned that, from the very beginning - is useless, actually for both routers, since WiFi 5, and especially WiFi 6, doesn't broadcast their WiFi signal to a very wide range ! Which is why the Mesh technology has been invented, so that you can have covered a much bigger area even with high frequency - WiFi 5 and 6, that is - than with the 2.4Ghz! Why Mesh technology? Beside that fact that the producers gets bigger sales with the additional routers they also provide - like I said - bigger areas with relatively weak broadcasting radio signal, BUT, in comparison with the classic Access Points and Repeater connection, that can be done with different brands, Mesh insures seamless connections in the designated area with no need of logging to different SSID's, setting different classes of IPs for each device, not to mention updating each and every time every device! Hence, the Mesh configuration is much simpler with greater outputs.
Golden rule of Wi-Fi, the more aerials, radios, airtime, processing power and direction of the black pointy things you have under your control the better. More users and devices = need more radios More Wi-Fi / router features = need more processing power More speed = need more airtime (clean) More home coverage = need more aerials to point in different directions (where you placed the device also matters) In my experience
Depends on on how your hone is connected.I got 0 benefits on FTTN to go from a free ISP supplied gen 5 with no external antennas to an expensive one with multiple antennas. Free one handled Netflix; PlayStation; and 3 iPads and downloading just as good if not better
So, you start by using a crappy NAS with limited bandwidth? WTH? Then you bring up USB ports where most people need one, but less than 5% of anyone plugs stuff in permanently to their router, let alone need two. Its ultra cheap to get a one to many USB adapter anyway. Then you talk about separating the 2.4 Ghz vs 5 Ghz and say it does fine combining them. It does, but if you buy smart home devices you learn many can't handle mixed bands, or you may simply realize that switching technology is overhead that makes it more glitchy. Everyone should have each band on its own SSID. Then, you start to go into real differences, yet test one download. I have more than 5 devices wanting full bandwidth with dozens of others. When I add in my WiFi cameras, they really hog bandwidth. Supporting multi devices simultaneously is HUGE. This whole review was from a one user with limited devices perspective. Again, I routinely have two X-boxes streaming, three TVs, and multiple cell phones... and PCs, cameras, smart devices, pool equipment, etc., etc.
depends on the speed of the hard drives, you average 50Mbps when coming from 5400 rpm hdd 100Mbps on a 7200rpm hdd faster the drives are the more data they can push, however whether it be raid or not speed.. this also becomes a moot point because you aren't going to exceed 100Mbps unless you are using ssd's across the entire network..
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The AX3000 also has 1 less core than the AX56U which makes the AX3000 actually slower than the AX56U meaning it is a Tricore at the same 1.5GHz speed where as the RX56U has a quad core 1.5GHz
Ax56u or rx56u
Great video, thanks for updating us with helpful facts in determining the specs!
There is so much info on the AX300. I didn't know there was a v2 until I bought 1. V2 has a Quad core 1.7ghz the same as TUF gaming V2.
Hm good to know, i didn't much about the cpu , it's definitely better than the v1 now
@@wendellbanks6243 How to tell the difference between versions?
Can you also discuss the wifi coverage?
What are the range differences between the two?
I just started using the ASUS AX55 yesterday which is very adequate.
Yo Tech Man Pat, can you do a review of the download speeds and coverage range as well ?
Great review mate
The AX3000 is under 200 oil dollars and readily available at local retailers nationwide. The other one is even cheaper, but usually has to be ordered.
All else being equal, will there be any noticeable performance advantage going from an Asus RT-N66U to the Asus RT-AX82U?
Wait for 6e ones to come along
Probabil cel mai bun router Wifi 6, internet Digi 1Gbs + TP-LINK XZ000-G3 (GPON primit la instalare noua, automat in mod bridge).
Setari recomandate:
- AiProtection - Network Protection: On
- Adaptive Qos - Bandwidth Monitor: Off
- Adaptive Qos - Qos: Off
- Traffic Analyzer: On
- Wireless - General - Enable Smart Connect: Off (Recomandat, evitati probleme si incompatibilitati pe diferite dispozitive)
- Wireless - General - Target Wake Time: Disable si pe 2.4 si pe 5 Ghz (Enable - activeaza internetul peste noapte, functie sensibila)
- Wireless - Professional - Roaming Assistant - si pe 2.4 si pe 5 Ghz: Disable sau -70 dBm (Nimic diferit) )
- Wireless - Professional - Modulation Scheme - si pe 2.4 si pe 5 Ghz: Up to MCS 11
- Wireless - Professional - Multi-User MIMO: Disable (2.4 Ghz) Enable (5 Ghz)
- Wireless - Professional - OFDMA/802.11ax MU-MIMO: DL/UL OFDMA + MU MIMO (5Ghz only)
- LAN - DHCP Server - Lease Time: 86400 (pentru cei care fac streaming, live-uri sau joaca jocuri online)
- LAN - Switch Control - Jumbo Frame: Disable (Recomandat)
(Jumbo frame este de fapt NAT hardware - Daca selectati Enable boostează viteza (nu este necesar la Digi) însă poate cauza lag si delay în jocuri online deoarece internetul este filtrat prin procesorul routerului. Pe alte routere precum TP-LINK/TENDA/MERCUSYS functia este activata si ascunsa).
- WAN - Internet Connection - UPNP: No
- WAN - Nat Passthrough: PPPoe Relay: Disable
- IPv6: Disable
- Administration - System - NTP Server: time. Cloudflare. Com sau 1. Ro. Pool. Ntp. Org
- Administration - System - Enable Reboot Scheduler: In fiecare zi (De preferat intre 6 si 8)
Info:
- nu setati securitatea parolei Wpa3 (unele dispozitive gen: aer conditionat, robot aspirator, tv, tableta, telefon, etc nu suporta Wpa3 si veti spune ca e de vina routerul).
Semnalul trece prin tot apartamentul cu pereti grosi (bloc vechi). Pe banda de 2.4 Ghz dau net si la vecini 4-5 etaje.
The graphic at 1:12 is misleading. It shows the difference between the AX3000 and all other 802.11ac routers (note the *AC*). That graphic doesn't include the AX56U which uses the *AX* standard, not AC.
There both AX routers. But there both backward complient.
I have the AX56U, It works amazing.
I highly recommend any Asus router that is still getting WRT-Merlin updates
However ill probably end up moving to a dedicated pfSense box in the future.
Hi, Pat. I have the RT AX56U model. It gives me a lot of "Network access denied" error while connecting to the router. It is using the latest firmware. Settings are correct and it has been rebooted several times. At the moment, the router's dashboard shows 1 device which is my laptop and another one, my phone, it shows network access denied. Last night it is OK.
Hello, thanks for the review
I' hesitating beetween AX56U and Ac88u wich one is better for same price 80 dollars
Awesome video. It’s very concise and helpful for viewer to understand more about these 2 routers. Well done!
On sale now in JB HI-FI, still a good router for 2023? 1000/50 NBN plan.
If I have an ONT installed on my house and fiber is coming in, I will only need a router correct? Not a modem and a router.
I know someone that will be happy you're reviewing Asus routers... maybe this will make them happy?
Is there an equivalent with a modem, or what modem do you recommend for fiber to the node?
Yes...my house has a Fiber to the Node and my ISP provider " demands" router with Protocol PPPoE. How do we know this unit matches this unit?
what is the best device for AiMesh only. because i already have a AX86U Gaming router as my main router. i wanted to get rid of my TP-link Power Line / Range extender that is capped at 100mbps. (and that's over both Wired & Wifi)
AX1800 Seems decent value, money wise. But how much range am i sacrificing with two less antennas compared to the AX3000
Does it support OpenVPN?
Yes
These do not have Bridge Mode?
The interchangeable pronunciation of the word "router" grates against my ears, though having married an American, I understand the use of both. I still feel the need to complain.
Haha luckily I’m not an American.. ohew
bro you need to get fiber. 40 Mbps internet speeds are terrible in the 2020s
Would you recommend RT-AX55, I have no use of USB port?
Yeah I personally have only used the USB port for a printer 7 years ago… not since the.
The numbers Mason, what do they mean?!
Thanks for sharing mate, 'bytes' referring to file sizes while 'bits' is for speed
2:23 a bad NVME drive hits a thousand, and a decent one, hits three thousand....
Unlike ssds I think nvme is taking awhile to become main stream, I think we’re a year or two away
@@TechManPat mmmm.... I don't get that impression. Certainly even noobs building their computers for the first time always have m.2 drives. I think youtube/forum build guides in the last year have all had nvme because there is very little price difference.
@@knifeyonline yes correct, but that is a very small percentage of people still, ethusiasts, new laptops are starting to get it now
And why would you attach a hard drive to something that’s attaching you to the Internet 🤯
@@a9503128 well I've spent a month trying to work out what you mean, and I've given up lol. are you asking why computers in the same house need to communicate with each other? or why do people have a NAS? Something like that?
for this particular comparison, does more antennas mean better signal coverage?
hey,, im having trouble at my current internet connection,, my pc having high packet loss everytime im playing any online game, it ussualy stays around 10-15% which make it unplayable and it spikes to 60-70% sometimes, vpn such as exitlag or wtfast does help me quite alot but not completely. but then i notice my brother's pc having no issue at all 0% packet loss and stable connection, we are currently connected directly to the modem via cable,, our house have like 8-10 devices (only 3 wired) and 20mbps down and 8up most of it is just light use of the internet..
do i need these kind of router for better internet connectivity? should i buy some decent router anyway?
If your brother is having no issues - it might be a waste of money. Better to investigate other things. For example, swapping out the ethernet cable is a cheap thing taht's worth trying (check the rating of the cable too). It *could* be the router, although it's strange if your borther is getting no issues, but other things need ruling out first.
It's also worth running some packet loss tests using a Live USB of Ubuntu on your computer. This will allow you to try another OS without messing with your current install. Note that download speeds will likely much slower on a USB install, so don't try testing speed on it, just packet loss and stability related things.
Lol I just bought the ax 3000 for 85 €
This router sucks bad as it chops the upload speed really bad on wifi 6 5g!
can you do a review on the best router/s for ofmodemsandmen openwrt alternative to stock firmware. I currently use a TP-Link Archer C7 v5 with that firmware to allow my phone's 4g hotspot to be used if wan port goes offline to allow my tv and other devices to continue working. It is also very handy for taking on international trips and hotel wifi has hard limit on number of ip's given out etc.
For FTTN gen 6 will bring pretty much no benefit to the average person imo
Asus is junk
what is better brand for router? except asus and tp-link
@@LockheedMartinF-22Raptor-y8i Its hard to say because they all make junk. You have to do research on different model numbers. I know I'm never buying Asus again. Another great company went down the drain. TP-Link has always been junk
7:47 ASUS really want you to think you can have a wireless mesh, wirelessly connecting multiple routers, but the wifi strength/speed to do this doesn't actually exist even with the AX3000. You really only have enough wireless bandwidth (or processing power?) for one person to receive (or send) wifi at full speed, and if it has to share the bandwidth maintaining a link to another router your experience will start to degrade. Also intermittent interference will cause connection to drop between routers causing the connection to drop and then it won't retry (to reconnect between mesh routers) and you will have to reboot your routers every day 👍. --I HAVE solved this problem by connecting my aiMesh with a wired connection using Ethernet-Over-Power (powerline) to get the convenience of a completely wireless system though with 2xAX3000 routers.
I tell myself... one day in the future somebody will read this and I will have helped somebody. Probably not though... probably not.
@@knifeyonline is it true now its fixed?
6:22 broadcomm chimp?
Apes strong together
Just get good ubiquity access Point and firewall
8:10 By saying "end up buying separate mesh devices to extend wifi..." vs "you can connect it directly to this with other Asus mesh devices" do you mean that if buying mesh routers separately from different brand requires efforts to setup and troubleshoot while using Asus routers with AiMesh, we can simply get it done via the menu by just few clicks?
Asus branded ai mesh devices will be controlled by the single router if you have different brands you will have two seperate admin panels to control. And it won’t utilise this modem as part of the mesh
At this point, Is it better to wait for more Wifi 6E routers ?
Thanks for the video!
While you’re right that I’d be fine with the AX1800 speeds, my main concern is range. Disregarding mesh, would the AX3000 give further range since it’s got more speed to drop off from? Is the much significance in that?
Same question here!
So good 👍👍👍
Thx for such as a great video ! Thx
Very confusing the difference between brands, let alone between the same brand. There is the Asus AX3000 router and an Asus TUF AX3000 router. Not that I can see much of a difference with the specs sheet, at first glance the TUF version says it has _a 1.5GHz tri-core processor, and that data rate transfer is 802.11ax (5GHz) : up to 2402 Mbps_ whereas the one mentioned in your review has _a 1.5GHz quad-core processor, and that data rate transfer is 802.11ax (5GHz) : up to 1201 Mbps_
Everything else "seems" to be the same specs (without a more indepth reading of the specs), so would you say the TUF version would be a better version because of the data rate transfer on the Wifi 6 or would the quad core processor be the better option? Price difference between both is basically negligible with the TUF being about $10 more. Any thoughts on this?
I thought the TUF version depricated the plain AX3000 version, *and the one pat is reviewing is leftover stock that they're trying to get rid of now
but it doesn't seem like it looking at stock levels... I guess I was wrong. But there is a third version now, that's called a "gaming" version (RT-AX86U AX5700) for $430... it has 4x4 antenna array instead of 2x2... I would definitely get that if you have multiple people gaming. I am having issues with the ax3000 with multiple people playing killingfloor2, people furthest away from the router start lagging.
With FTTN have have tried expensive ones and made 0 difference in speed compared to free one from ISP. I even found the free one ran faster than an $300 TPlink
THAT particular higher speed transfer rate for the more expensive router - you must've mentioned that, from the very beginning - is useless, actually for both routers, since WiFi 5, and especially WiFi 6, doesn't broadcast their WiFi signal to a very wide range ! Which is why the Mesh technology has been invented, so that you can have covered a much bigger area even with high frequency - WiFi 5 and 6, that is - than with the 2.4Ghz! Why Mesh technology? Beside that fact that the producers gets bigger sales with the additional routers they also provide - like I said - bigger areas with relatively weak broadcasting radio signal, BUT, in comparison with the classic Access Points and Repeater connection, that can be done with different brands, Mesh insures seamless connections in the designated area with no need of logging to different SSID's, setting different classes of IPs for each device, not to mention updating each and every time every device! Hence, the Mesh configuration is much simpler with greater outputs.
using an oculus quest 2 to stream wireless pc vr is a reason for faster transfer speeds
dont forget bootlegging 4K blu-ray films and the latest AAA video games
Baaaaaaaaai ❤️ Nice video
good video
Golden rule of Wi-Fi, the more aerials, radios, airtime, processing power and direction of the black pointy things you have under your control the better.
More users and devices = need more radios
More Wi-Fi / router features = need more processing power
More speed = need more airtime (clean)
More home coverage = need more aerials to point in different directions (where you placed the device also matters)
In my experience
Depends on on how your hone is connected.I got 0 benefits on FTTN to go from a free ISP supplied gen 5 with no external antennas to an expensive one with multiple antennas. Free one handled Netflix; PlayStation; and 3 iPads and downloading just as good if not better
So, you start by using a crappy NAS with limited bandwidth? WTH?
Then you bring up USB ports where most people need one, but less than 5% of anyone plugs stuff in permanently to their router, let alone need two. Its ultra cheap to get a one to many USB adapter anyway.
Then you talk about separating the 2.4 Ghz vs 5 Ghz and say it does fine combining them. It does, but if you buy smart home devices you learn many can't handle mixed bands, or you may simply realize that switching technology is overhead that makes it more glitchy. Everyone should have each band on its own SSID.
Then, you start to go into real differences, yet test one download. I have more than 5 devices wanting full bandwidth with dozens of others. When I add in my WiFi cameras, they really hog bandwidth. Supporting multi devices simultaneously is HUGE. This whole review was from a one user with limited devices perspective. Again, I routinely have two X-boxes streaming, three TVs, and multiple cell phones... and PCs, cameras, smart devices, pool equipment, etc., etc.
depends on the speed of the hard drives, you average 50Mbps when coming from 5400 rpm hdd
100Mbps on a 7200rpm hdd
faster the drives are the more data they can push, however whether it be raid or not speed..
this also becomes a moot point because you aren't going to exceed 100Mbps unless you are using ssd's across the entire network..