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  • Nine Inch Nails Terrible Lie Reaction and Analysis
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  • @roberthoughton7127
    @roberthoughton7127  4 года назад +31

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    • @curtis8966
      @curtis8966 4 года назад +7

      You should follow this video up with the song Find My Way by NIN as well, which was made roughly 25 years after Terrible Lie. It would make for a great companion piece to this video because both songs are tangentially related, with Find My Way being a reflection on who he used to be.
      ruclips.net/video/IfSUlIsMTZs/видео.html

    • @murrayguitarpickups9545
      @murrayguitarpickups9545 4 года назад

      Done

    • @yomo1690
      @yomo1690 4 года назад

      NIN "Heresy" is what you SHOULD react to.

    • @mregamlat
      @mregamlat 4 года назад

      Metallica - The Good That Failed, or Devil's Dance

    • @wearenotamused6455
      @wearenotamused6455 4 года назад

      You may want to steer clear of "Closer"... But listen to "Something I can Never Have".

  • @cartilago7594
    @cartilago7594 4 года назад +637

    "Heresy" by Nine Inch Nails is the song to react

    • @Grunger19
      @Grunger19 4 года назад +9

      K this is also about religion.

    • @Mintycreature
      @Mintycreature 4 года назад +28

      Cannot like this comment any harder!

    • @DrFinkelstein99
      @DrFinkelstein99 4 года назад +8

      100% agree

    • @fulldisclosureiamamonster2786
      @fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 4 года назад +21

      --Hel-- Heck, why not God Given and Find My Way too? And to round out the list of religion-themed NIN songs, Closer :p

    • @74810Eric
      @74810Eric 4 года назад +5

      @@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 Find my way would be so interesting to analyse in context with past songs and see some kind of evolution in his faith.

  • @brianlawrence8314
    @brianlawrence8314 4 года назад +140

    One of the greatest albums ever made, every song is perfection

  • @ManBurningTTV
    @ManBurningTTV 4 года назад +198

    Thank you for FINALLY doing NIN. I've been requesting it for months, lol. But, I was hoping to see "HERESY" by NIN. Either way, I'll take what I can get, haha.

    • @imtrieco2483
      @imtrieco2483 4 года назад +1

      TheCube360 i was going to request NIN also, but i was gonna say terrible lie or head like a hole.

    • @griffisjm
      @griffisjm 4 года назад +13

      Heresy tho is from the middle of a concept album by Reznor about a guy who is tearing down everything around him in a "downward spiral" where as terrible lie is more of an honest look into his feelings toward religion

    • @moonlily1
      @moonlily1 4 года назад +2

      @@griffisjm Yeah, but who is that guy? It isn't NOT Trent. And there isn't the only difference in the sentiments in each song is the tone is more sad in the former and angry in the latter. But the underlying conclusion is the same: Christianity is bullshit. Which it is.

    • @stonecold5373
      @stonecold5373 3 года назад +1

      NIN is so good....

  • @darkcognitive
    @darkcognitive 4 года назад +108

    "Makes me wonder if they deserve the label industrial metal"
    You have much to learn, young padawan. Much.

    • @mcnulty555
      @mcnulty555 4 года назад +10

      So true! NIN is Industrial Metal. Still my favorite band!

    • @HarlowTheoryX
      @HarlowTheoryX 4 года назад +3

      Yeah I lost it at that as well.....

    • @lolitalo7793
      @lolitalo7793 3 года назад

      Isnt it actually Nu metal?

    • @mosskey
      @mosskey 3 года назад +4

      It's valid imo, especially with PHM. There's a lot of early NIN that's rooted in Trent's previous group and music that's more "dance/electronic". "Down in it" and "kinda I want to" are. what I think, other good examples of that
      But 100% definitely that changes. I just wanted to mention that there's a lot of awesome 80s bands that influenced NIN that a lot of fans of NIN might initially look into because it is considered pop or dance music from then.
      Cheer friends

    • @nataliam9764
      @nataliam9764 3 года назад +3

      NIN created Industrial metal, lol. 🤦‍♀️

  • @suffersystemstudios
    @suffersystemstudios 4 года назад +234

    I would have actually loved to hear your thoughts on Nine Inch Nails Heresy. That would have been quite the reaction I think

  • @pjsin9472
    @pjsin9472 4 года назад +37

    Absolutely love this song. People don't understand Reznor. He wrote this entire album on an Apple computer by himself

  • @everdownwardandon7124
    @everdownwardandon7124 4 года назад +60

    As someone who is not religious in anyway, I still very much enjoy and appreciate these reactions and in depth conversations you have. I respect the passion and your wants to teach and analyze one of mankind's most influential forms of expression, music. Also NIN is my favorite band of all time, so thank you especially for that too!

  • @gressfes5911
    @gressfes5911 4 года назад +66

    Also...the lyrics "can this world really be as sad as it seems?" That hits deep. As someone in my mid 30s, hearing this song again for the first time in YEARS, it makes me wonder. It seems there is more hate and ugliness as time goes on.

    • @gressfes5911
      @gressfes5911 4 года назад +1

      @Brian Cairns since I was quite young growing up with them, I really didn't understand/appreciate the lyrics until I started listening to them again in my late 20s.

    • @taffysaur
      @taffysaur 4 года назад +2

      Jennifer White Actually if you look at the metrics, things like violent crime, extreme poverty, infant mortality, starvation, they’re all steadily going down. Every year is the new low point in history for all these negative things. Take heart, it is getting better, though it might not sound like it from what the... ahem... “news” tells you every night.

    • @Len_M.
      @Len_M. Год назад

      @@taffysaur Unfortunately, violent crime is going up and it's getting worse. They don't even keep criminals in prison anymore it seems. They do something and they are back out the next day to do it again. While they try to crucify People that were only trying to defend themselves. It's sad.

    • @6Haunted-Days
      @6Haunted-Days 4 месяца назад

      lmfao yea there was no hate violence and ugliness 800yrs ago ..as an example. My god..I can TELL you’re massively uneducated in ANY HISTORY…..😂🙄🤡

    • @6Haunted-Days
      @6Haunted-Days 4 месяца назад

      @@Len_M.what TF. WRONG. Ya do know there’s stats…..it was WAY WAY more violent in the 80s and 90s violent crime and murder was 30% HIGHER than now. But you ignorant uneducated people wanna claim is o so much worse now. Can’t stand willful ignorance you can stats up ya know….🙄🤡

  • @ethan9590
    @ethan9590 4 года назад +23

    In 1994, I was 13 and I gave my friend "The Downward Spiral" for his birthday. His family was very religious and his mother immediately read the lyrics. They were very upset with me and confronted me with anger and dismay. They didn't understand how I could think this was an okay, and how my parents would buy this for me to give as a gift. To me the lyrics meant nothing and I never thought twice about them. When I got older, told this story to some friends, and we all I realized how bad the lyrics would come across to a deeply religious person. They were so angry. Still, it is one of the best albums ever made.

    • @Someone-hv7tv
      @Someone-hv7tv 2 года назад +8

      I kinda see that album as a warning not to go down that path. I mean the protagonist loses everything he loves and kills himself. I am not justifying the lyrics but I understand some, not all, of the feelings in them.

  • @Isaac_Davis_
    @Isaac_Davis_ 4 года назад +90

    “Makes me wonder if they deserve the label industrial metal”
    nine inch nails was never really categorized wholly as industrial metal, just..industrial. If you want a harder song by NIN check out Wish, it’s badass. You want to review industrial metal check out Fear factory... in particular Fear Factory - Resurrection. It’s a good one for y’all to discuss.

  • @dalenewberry4610
    @dalenewberry4610 4 года назад +70

    One song o would really like to a lyrical analysis of is the NIN song “Wish.” Musically way different than this too

    • @xenophagia
      @xenophagia 4 года назад +13

      You just want them to hear the "fist fuck" part 😂

    • @tompaauwe4565
      @tompaauwe4565 4 года назад +2

      How about Heresy? :)

    • @troytalbot5746
      @troytalbot5746 4 года назад

      Yes! An HD live version of Wish, or just the one off of Beside you in time.

  • @MrFatbad
    @MrFatbad 4 года назад +118

    So, confession time, I don't believe in the Christian God, I'm agnostic leaning athiestist, but I've always enjoyed the well thought out and articulated views you express on these videos

    • @empress9554
      @empress9554 4 года назад +6

      ⬆️ same

    • @IceKoldKilla
      @IceKoldKilla 4 года назад +7

      Agreed. Same here.

    • @Hexx_Iztenze
      @Hexx_Iztenze 4 года назад +7

      Same here I'm more agnostic. This is the first reaction of his I'd seen (probably came up as I am a huge NIN fan) and I really enjoyed it which was a surprise TBH.
      He seems like a chilled out guy.

    • @clipcalhoon
      @clipcalhoon 4 года назад +3

      Eve Marie Post I just like seeing how the devout frame things and perceive the world, it’s not for me but it’s interesting nonetheless

    • @danielbrunner7730
      @danielbrunner7730 4 года назад +4

      Yes I love how they both don't belittle others beliefs and feelings that may be different than theirs! I myself was raised Catholic and even went through school till hs. My feelings and beliefs have changed drastically mainly because of how hipocritical alot of christians are. Especially the ones that act and let people think they are so religious and pious. Money amongst many different religions is also another! I feel in a way I'm mjk in reverse as far as beliefs go very religious first and then angrily not almost! Not sure how to really explain what I mean? I think I'm agnostic really? Especially when you look at how most religions really have the same major outline as if was created to control the masses by fear in a way. I just really enjoy how they compare and then explain what and why they may believe differently without acting as if they are better and they are terrible people. Early tool and even APC had MJK expressing his anger directly at God for how his mother was made to live incompacitated for most of her life and no matter how bad she had it she didn't waiver on her beliefs. Anyway sorry for rambling on there! Lol

  • @gressfes5911
    @gressfes5911 4 года назад +16

    I'm so glad to see you back! I hope all is well with you and your family.

  • @DrFinkelstein99
    @DrFinkelstein99 4 года назад +25

    As a huuuuuge Nine Inch Nails fan, I'd suggest looking into the song "Heresy" by NIN. With a chorus of "God is dead and no one cares
    . If there is a hell, I'll see you there," I'm sure the two of you would have plenty to say about it.
    Also, listen to a live version of "Terrible Lie." It really amps up the rock/metal in comparison to the Pretty Hate Machine original version.

    • @cooperbaird1192
      @cooperbaird1192 2 года назад +2

      Finally someone said it! The live version of Terrible Lie is unmatched. Give me chills every time

    • @snakeplissken6649
      @snakeplissken6649 4 месяца назад

      @@cooperbaird1192 The Woodstock version of Terrible Lie & Reptile are some of the best i've seen from NIN.

  • @logananschell188
    @logananschell188 4 года назад +61

    I recommend Marilyn Manson: Antichrist Superstar

    • @DaRabbit_3
      @DaRabbit_3 4 года назад +8

      Also Say10

    • @Starr_Apathy
      @Starr_Apathy 4 года назад +12

      Or The Reflecting God!!:)

    • @edpin00
      @edpin00 4 года назад +5

      Logan Anschell Idk if that’d be a good discussion because everything about he song would be refuted. He’d just say the exact opposite of everything Manson expressed in the song.
      More interesting would be to interview him lol

    • @sirmang9032
      @sirmang9032 4 года назад +3

      Man That You Fear would be a good choice for this channel to react to.

    • @replicaofsurreal
      @replicaofsurreal 4 года назад +1

      Seconding The Reflecting God.

  • @miketrg
    @miketrg 4 года назад +11

    The lyric “Hey God” before each line is left out. The lyrics make more sense with that part in there as he’s speaking to God asking these questions.

    • @joshburns4611
      @joshburns4611 4 года назад

      I personally like that the Hey God part is silent or synthesized because then the lyrics can take on different interpretations depending on who's listening.

  • @mikkalbreeden956
    @mikkalbreeden956 4 года назад +67

    What always caught my attention in this song was still having a belief in god. Despite the anger, lack of understanding, and feeling neglected in the darkest moment, he’s left pleading with god.

    • @eastlake93
      @eastlake93 4 года назад +8

      My story. And, Im a minister. Despite encouraging others, making the case, but feeling ignored. Every word.

    • @christinav3964
      @christinav3964 4 года назад +11

      Trent is one of those artists that i pray for. I know these artists have been wronged by God's lousy ambassadors. Their hearts and souls have been "somewhat damaged" in so many ways. We need to have mercy and grace for these people. Those that have been hurt by Christianity.

    • @dark_sunset
      @dark_sunset 2 года назад +3

      @@christinav3964 Why pray just to feel like you're helping when you actually are doing nothing useful

  • @CajunCoyote88
    @CajunCoyote88 4 года назад +2

    Really enjoyed this.
    Number one, I loved watching someone listen to this song for the first time, being shocked by the lyrics and also admiring the unique sound. Bravo.
    I also really enjoyed the conversation afterwards. Thanks guys

  • @kingblue5393
    @kingblue5393 4 года назад

    Wow, this was an wonderful video. Thank you for this episode and please keep doing more videos guys!!!!!!!

  • @MarcusL1995
    @MarcusL1995 4 года назад +35

    This is off their first album “Pretty Hate Machine” which is more synth pop-influenced. Their next album “The Downward Spiral” had very dark themes in it which marks their change to their recognizable sound
    “Head Like a Hole” is from the same album

    • @brandenlucero
      @brandenlucero 4 года назад

      @@youarerightandstuff Broken wasn't an LP, it was an EP. The Downward Spiral is the second true full length album.

    • @garymcmullin4825
      @garymcmullin4825 4 года назад +1

      But there are songs off of Broken that would be excellent to review, and are more guitar driven. Wish, Gave up, Happiness in Slavery

    • @archer60x43
      @archer60x43 3 года назад

      I’d say more EBM influenced. Since this is the music that I listen to alongside a few other genres, this just sounds like a more hard-core sounding Front 242

  • @dalenewberry4610
    @dalenewberry4610 4 года назад +9

    I really like this entire album front to back. I liken the mood of this song to “restrained angst.” You can feel the angst but it isn’t as viscerally aggressive.

  • @jeffgo5742
    @jeffgo5742 4 года назад

    Glad to see you guys making videos again. Hope everything is well with your family.

  • @TheHappiestGoth
    @TheHappiestGoth 4 года назад +25

    You might be interested in a newer Nine Inch Nails song called “Find My Way”. The lyrics are a really interesting progression from the guy he was when he wrote “Terrible Lie”.

    • @replicaofsurreal
      @replicaofsurreal 4 года назад +1

      Yes, this

    • @colinmelton3815
      @colinmelton3815 2 года назад +2

      As a die-hard bleed on the flag to keep it red nine inch nails fan, I was absolutely gobsmacked just f****** astonished when I heard that song. This from the man who wrote terrible lie and Heresy?
      One of the angriest seemingly most bitter apostate people I've ever heard from? Just shows you how life can change how you can grow as a human being? That song was legit like a prayer.
      Maybe someone who's lost and they don't know how to pray anymore but now they want to. It blew my mind it gave me hope

  • @Dom_Smalls
    @Dom_Smalls 3 года назад +10

    I just showed someone this reaction based on the fact that we both share a love of Nine Inch Nails. She and I also differ fundamentally in our faith, where she could be considered a pagan or agnostic and I'm as a spiritual christian (catholic-born). Although knowing the reaction I would get is less-than-loving, I would like to share what she said just to give some context, coming from someone that doesn't share the same thought pattern as me: in so many words, she thinks you may have missed the point. In her view, the Terrible Lie isn't generally the quid-pro-quo relationship that "if I am good then I must be given something", the Terrible Lie is putting 'too much' faith in an institution that doesn't give anything back-- that it's a crisis-of-faith that arises when someone has doubts that their best-laid foundation has been shaken and has nothing else to fall back on than to come crawling back to their church and surround themselves with people that support their victim complex. The "Lie" isn't in the fundamental teachings of the church or the bible, it's in the institution. She commended your willingness to believe that it was a metaphor for something, but did not think you applied the metaphorical lens in the correct way. It was a metaphor, not for love and not for drugs, but the nothingness that someone feels when they're left without any answers and are FORCED to come back to something that they don't believe in because they weren't given the chance to develop their own moral compass or coping mechanisms for the world being as fear-inspiring as it is. They've lost all their life's meaning because the only thing they've put any effort into is their faith, kind of like if you bet all of your money on one horse in a race. It's the culture of "believe in Him and nothing else, not even yourself" that is the Lie. The supposed character in the song (Trent or someone nameless) eventually doesn't have a choice but to throw up their hands and say "I'm afraid, and I'm afraid of the hopeless alternative if this is how the world really is, and I don't know how to express that in a healthy way, so all I can do is just go back to church".
    An example she gave was women who save themselves for marriage, who are told by everyone that they should and it is the Godly thing to do, and during their wedding night they start to panic because nobody has actually taught them or told them how to behave during their honeymoon and still think they're disappointing their savior because they're simply unprepared for what sex calls for, then are traumatized by the whole ordeal for years to come afterwards.
    This is probably pretty late in the game because this is like seven months later, but I figure that you're one of those folks that likes to read comments, so I'll leave this one here.

  • @jaycoffelt
    @jaycoffelt 4 года назад +24

    Nine Inch Nails (according to Reznor) were heavily influenced by very techno/synth/new-wave artist Gary Numan (who is best known for the song "Cars" from the late 1970s).

    • @tacticalcenter8658
      @tacticalcenter8658 4 года назад +4

      They were influenced by so many heavy artists, including skinny puppy, ministry, but also David Bowie and other lighter synth groups from the time

    • @mjonesuk
      @mjonesuk 4 года назад +6

      Saw them live at the 02 arena in London, 2009 and Gary Numan joined them on stage for a surprise set. It was incredible, Reznor playing the synth parts.

    • @fulldisclosureiamamonster2786
      @fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 4 года назад +2

      This album was from 89 as well; it was pretty ahead of its time for synth pop.

    • @taffysaur
      @taffysaur 4 года назад +2

      He pays lip service to Skinny Puppy and Throbbing Gristle and all that, but when he does cover songs it shows where his heart really lies; same place as mine, all synthpop/new wave, all the time (Numan, Adam Ant, Depeche Mode, etc)

    • @jaycoffelt
      @jaycoffelt 4 года назад

      @@taffysaur, I like your taste in music (genre and artists)!

  • @davidsisk9013
    @davidsisk9013 3 года назад

    The time is special that you and your son spend together,God bless you both:)

  • @bachsoutdooradventures
    @bachsoutdooradventures 4 года назад

    Glad to see you back! Hope all is well

  • @TsmithJustin
    @TsmithJustin 4 года назад +44

    We're gonna need to hear a reaction to tools new song invincible.

    • @Flyanb
      @Flyanb 4 года назад +6

      Justin Smith how about pneuma?

    • @bigchungus8294
      @bigchungus8294 4 года назад +5

      @@Flyanb 3 individuals 3 opinions. I'm for descending :D

    • @daverenken1371
      @daverenken1371 4 года назад +1

      Justin Smith I agree. I’d love to hear what pastor might have to say about it.

    • @murrayguitarpickups9545
      @murrayguitarpickups9545 4 года назад +2

      Ima throw in a 4th opinion, "fear innoculum" seems to have spiritual element he seems to be coming to accept either God or maybe Satan. My money's on the latter

    • @Digitalbath570
      @Digitalbath570 4 года назад +3

      Full album from start to finish

  • @bigguy1164
    @bigguy1164 4 года назад +29

    you should definitely check out 'Find My Way' where a much older and wiser Reznor tacitly returns to God and admits he may have gone too far in some places.

    • @sporkpilot
      @sporkpilot 4 года назад +5

      AGREED!!! I saw this song live in at a show in Cleveland (where NIN began) a few years ago and was nearly in tears!!! Very interesting side of Trent!

    • @spangsman
      @spangsman 4 года назад +4

      @@sporkpilot I was there at that concert in Cleveland during the hesitation Mark's tour. They killed and find my way

  • @christinmcclure7544
    @christinmcclure7544 4 года назад +1

    Grew up listening to NIN.
    I love hearing your perspective on it. Great videos. 💜

  • @judemendoza2666
    @judemendoza2666 4 года назад +51

    “Forest” by System of a Down is a great song and I would love to know the biblical interpretation of it.

    • @keldrifdarkflame8364
      @keldrifdarkflame8364 4 года назад +4

      Good song! I would also like to hear some thoughts and opinions on "Holy Mountains" by SoaD .

    • @lupuionut6286
      @lupuionut6286 4 года назад +2

      Or Suite Pee

    • @InMediasRes_vo
      @InMediasRes_vo 4 года назад +2

      @@keldrifdarkflame8364 Holy Mountains! Such a good song! Hits hard every time I hear it.

  • @TheLostBoy1974
    @TheLostBoy1974 4 года назад +5

    When I was in high school 1989, PHM was my favorite album. Let me be clear, METAL HEADS hated this band. I don’t think they were ever metal.

  • @GhostFaceVillian
    @GhostFaceVillian 4 года назад +6

    I've been hoping for a NIN reaction! So pumped for this, definitely do another one! See a lot of people recommending "Heresey" I agree 100% that it would be a solid song. The lyric content from Trent Reznor is something to dive into. BUT as a recommendation for another band I would love to see somehing from Norma Jean.

  • @BearKlaw
    @BearKlaw 3 года назад

    LOVE this song! So glad I got to hear Trent perform it live back in the day.

  • @parkerlewis2007
    @parkerlewis2007 4 года назад

    Love you channel Rob. Best wishes for u and your family.

  • @darkstreakaia5267
    @darkstreakaia5267 4 года назад +10

    Nin and tool exists on the same plain because both Trent and Maynard possess genius artistic talent.

    • @mbelma6329
      @mbelma6329 2 года назад

      The guy from Tool? He didn’t play any instruments or write nearly as much as Trent Reznor did
      It’s not really close in terms of artistic talent

    • @darkstreakaia5267
      @darkstreakaia5267 2 года назад

      @@mbelma6329 one could argue that while maynard has less talent or no talent at producing records and writing music he has superior vocals and lyric writing. Still both are genius in the music industry. I appreciate and love them both equally.

    • @nathanabeyta3873
      @nathanabeyta3873 Год назад

      @@darkstreakaia5267 have you listened to any Puscifer? Maynard is a great producer.

    • @ImYourPusherman
      @ImYourPusherman Год назад

      TAPEWORM. If you don't know what this is, look it up.

    • @darkstreakaia5267
      @darkstreakaia5267 Год назад

      @@ImYourPusherman such an odd comment. I know what a tapeworm is, I just don’t see it’s relevance. Your point?!

  • @pr073u569
    @pr073u569 4 года назад +4

    This was one of my "comfort songs" in the downward spiral that only God's redemptive act can reverse.

  • @colombianchick111
    @colombianchick111 4 года назад

    love and enjoy your content!

  • @jadec.4068
    @jadec.4068 4 года назад

    Great conversation guys!👍

  • @DrFinkelstein99
    @DrFinkelstein99 4 года назад +5

    Also curious of you mentioning NIN and Tool being the same, Trent Reznor and Maynard James Keenan collaborated at one point. Their project called Tapeworm went unreleased and a lot of the songs wound up as A Perfect Circle songs, which you guys have covered. APC also opened for NIN in the early 2000s.

    • @christinav3964
      @christinav3964 4 года назад

      The Fragility Tour...
      BEST CONCERTS OF MY ENTIRE LIFE.
      (also a person of faith that believes in Christ)

  • @ericdesjardins.8081
    @ericdesjardins.8081 4 года назад +21

    He sewed his eyes shut because he is afraid to see
    He tries to tell me what I put inside of me
    He got the answers to ease my curiosity
    He dreamed up a god and called it Christianity.
    First verse, the rest gets very deep.
    Please review "Heresy". Also keep in mind Trent was very honest about his feeling and issues at the time. He is a different man now, however nothing can take away his musical genius writing, producing and not being afraid to speak his mind about religion, or his questions about religion.
    Also, be prepared, as the remark that you were expecting a more heavy sound will be fulfilled, in a deep and dark way. You will hear his voice a bit muffled as he was at the time shy of the words he was saying, but sang them anyway.
    Off topic, when he wrote "hurt" he was one step away of suicide, and writing that song helped him through it. And to answer your question if he was on drugs during that time, yes and heavily. You can read some David bowy interviews when he collaborated with Trent back in the day.
    Trent is probably the most interesting and inspiring artist I've ever known, even if today he regrets his past. That song writing was the best I've ever come across from any artist. Another side note, Trent played every instrument on the pretty hate machine album, apart from drums, which was a drum box.
    Wrote, produced and played every instrument, all while being torn inside, and this was his first album.
    My all time best album. By far.
    Oh, and and 31 years later, the lyrics are still VERY relevant to what is going on in this world.
    Thank you very much for this video.

    • @Starr_Apathy
      @Starr_Apathy 4 года назад +1

      In short, I think you are amazing!!:)

    • @barneyrubble8255
      @barneyrubble8255 4 года назад

      @@Starr_Apathy Pretty hate machine had a few producers and egineers, he also had help programming drums from his friend, and the hey man nice shot guy is even credited with little guitar nuance on pretty hate machine.....The only recording of Trent alone, without help is his demo, purest feeling....but even there i think he had help from his drummer. Not taking anything away from trent, he's one of the very best artists of the nineties......but nobody sounds like that without help

    • @ericdesjardins.8081
      @ericdesjardins.8081 4 года назад

      @@barneyrubble8255 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Hate_Machine

  • @sagetim
    @sagetim 4 года назад

    Nice to see y’all back 👍🏼

  • @justanotherandrew7421
    @justanotherandrew7421 4 года назад

    Great video. Interesting as always.
    Lots of love from a respectful agnostic. 🖖

  • @mobrien7211
    @mobrien7211 4 года назад +13

    The lyrics video didn't mention the "Hey God!" Right before the verses
    Edit: 10:20 good catch

    • @tappytibbons735
      @tappytibbons735 4 года назад +1

      Yeah seems like the main point of the song, also many of the lyrics are pretty clearly wrong.

    • @dvs620
      @dvs620 3 года назад

      The live version on "All That Could Have Been" you can hear the "Hey God!" Between verses so much better. Makes the song far more powerful.

  • @dalenewberry4610
    @dalenewberry4610 4 года назад +23

    Yeah, “Wish” is way more guitar oriented and aggressive

  • @cemetarygates79
    @cemetarygates79 4 года назад

    I would like to start by saying how happy I am you guys are back and covering material I not only love/have loved for years, but also so openly.
    Having grown up throughout NIN start and run, I've always admired how it's all actually just Trent Reznor and his musical brilliance and all his inner battles thru the decades with random band members he hires for live shows.
    Pretty Hate Machine is one of my personal favorite albums of theirs/his.
    I had to sneak listen to them growing up as my parents caught wind of Trents utter/open resentment of God/Christianity and his firm atheist/nihilist words/beliefs thru the years.
    But I've always love his music and was very excited to see you guys cover this one as well. I thoroughly enjoy your open dialogue on the wide array of genre/bands you guys do.
    Would love to see some of the darker or alleged to be darker titles from some bands and to get your take on some of the newer Christian rock bands like Demon Hunters 'God Forsaken'.
    Even titles from Manson, Danzig, Avenged Sevenfold etc. I was surprised to see you cover Ghost's Square Hammer the other day too. Being that they/their gimmick anyway is openly 'satanic'. I liked how you stayed relative and open about the context at hand instead of judging them based on that alone.

  • @Zoofa188_Qe
    @Zoofa188_Qe 4 года назад

    It’s extremely good to see you again!

  • @kzed.
    @kzed. 4 года назад +6

    You're not going to get many if any other requests for this but the message is so strong The Chariot - "The City". It's chaotic but the lyrics are forever important

    • @eatkinkpegs
      @eatkinkpegs 4 года назад

      I agree- I wish they would do more in that realm. Including The Showdown, awesome band!

  • @dvdthomas10
    @dvdthomas10 4 года назад +4

    I find it interesting that much of this kind of music has been labeled as “satanic” by some throughout history - even though it is written from the point of view that god indeed exists and by someone who is deeply seeking some sort of salvation.

  • @daniellehurrell6620
    @daniellehurrell6620 4 года назад

    Missed you guys! 💚

  • @Jeff-bs8uc
    @Jeff-bs8uc 4 года назад

    Thanks for posting listening to the song I've felt a good chunk of the lyrics in feeling into some stuff I've been dealing with, and it was good to hear the analysis

    • @Jeff-bs8uc
      @Jeff-bs8uc 4 года назад

      Check out JFC by the acacia strain forewarned it's a doozy

  • @sickmessiah
    @sickmessiah 4 года назад +12

    The live version from “ and all that could have been “ is 10x better

  • @davidgillespie4278
    @davidgillespie4278 4 года назад +7

    Should of been "Heresy" by NIN so we could of watched your jaw hit the ground when you heard the lyrics

  • @smileygladhands
    @smileygladhands 8 месяцев назад +2

    I'm glad you caught the background "hey God!". That's an important part of the song. I take it that he's speaking directly to God. Of course, that's what meaning I take away. Hearing this song in the throws of addiction back in 2008 brought me to my knees, sobbing like a baby. Very powerful song.
    Edit: you should watch the Woodstock 94 version of this song. Hits hard.

    • @lizardking8516
      @lizardking8516 7 месяцев назад

      yeah, the lyric video leaving it out irritated me

  • @michaelparylak5649
    @michaelparylak5649 4 года назад

    Awesome analysis for an awesome song

  • @shaunhallonquist3483
    @shaunhallonquist3483 4 года назад +30

    Have you done " Christian Woman " by type o negative, I think it would be a good watch. Thank you, love your videos.

    • @marcguidetti3081
      @marcguidetti3081 4 года назад +7

      if they do it they have to do the long version and not the radio version

    • @archer60x43
      @archer60x43 3 года назад +3

      As a type o fan as well I can agree

    • @stonecold5373
      @stonecold5373 3 года назад +3

      Duuuude.......Christian Woman, Type O.......You've made my day....
      I think they will....do it. Christian Woman is FLAWLESS.

    • @archer60x43
      @archer60x43 3 года назад

      @@stonecold5373 yeah! The entire bloody kisses album is amazing!

    • @nataliam9764
      @nataliam9764 3 года назад +1

      No real Christian would be able to listen through that crap. There are limits.

  • @HBC423
    @HBC423 4 года назад +10

    Y'all should really do noose by a perfect circle.. Maynard sings about halos

  • @coreysmith9847
    @coreysmith9847 4 года назад

    Love you guys! Hope all is well

  • @extendedpinky
    @extendedpinky 4 года назад +1

    Finally got to watch. Good as usual. Jesus loves us. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼

  • @levitibbit4899
    @levitibbit4899 4 года назад +6

    Please do one for "for today - break the cycle" or "POD - murdered love"

  • @debwallace100
    @debwallace100 4 года назад +3

    I'm a Christian, a 55-yr-old grandma, and I love metal. I love a wide variety of genre, but metal has a special place in my heart. I love your videos, and how you break down the lyrics. God bless, and keep em' coming!

  • @Xanict
    @Xanict 3 года назад

    "we'll get to that a little bit more"
    *great, can't wait.*

  • @The_Knight_Mayor
    @The_Knight_Mayor 3 года назад +2

    The lyrics are missing
    "HEY GOD!"
    Having those left out it's kind of important in a pastor reacts video

  • @aerobolt256
    @aerobolt256 4 года назад +6

    Head Like a Hole would be an interesting one to see you tackle, as he makes overt religious references and criticisms

    • @christinav3964
      @christinav3964 4 года назад +2

      Right, but that's more directed toward capitalism and consumerism...how people have made these things their god that they're serving.

  • @dalenewberry4610
    @dalenewberry4610 4 года назад +12

    Okay yeah since you mentioned the “prosperity gospel”
    You really need to analyze the lyrics for head like a hole. I have known several people that left the church and turned away because the bought into that and were left empty handed.

    • @jonathanoneill8011
      @jonathanoneill8011 4 года назад +4

      Yeah, that’s why I couldn’t understand why the good pastor kept going back to the wealth thing. Gage (forgive the spelling if I’m off) was spot-on in picking up on that biting sarcasm. “Head like a hole” is a patently anti-capitalist critique and would confirm that “terrible lie” is not about wealth or any other temporal desire. I think this song is more about an interior struggle than a material one; trying to make sense out of the senseless (can this world really be as sad as it seems?), etc.

    • @Swim_Jonse
      @Swim_Jonse 4 года назад +2

      I would still posit HLAH is not about religion. It's about human greed.

    • @jonathanoneill8011
      @jonathanoneill8011 4 года назад +1

      Rod Jonse oh yes, undoubtedly! I was just saying that HLAH (its themes: a god/money or money *as* god, as the object of adoration) makes it less likely that Trent’s singing about lost wealth or opportunity in “terrible lie”. I think the latter song is much more about internal struggle and coming to terms with the world as it is, age old concept.

    • @sstaners1234
      @sstaners1234 4 года назад +1

      Temple of the Dog Wooden Jesus has another great commentary for that.

    • @jonathanoneill8011
      @jonathanoneill8011 4 года назад

      s staners ooo, great song! You should suggest that one to Robert. Would make for interesting discussion. Definitely touches on that prosperity gospel notion. RIP Chris Cornell.

  • @davidedipaolo8640
    @davidedipaolo8640 3 года назад +1

    "the "riff" at the beginning of each line says HEY GOD, and that makes It so fucking Better overall

  • @sirMAXX77
    @sirMAXX77 4 года назад

    "great keyboard solo" lol
    This is one of my favorite songs. You can feel the emotion in it.

  • @jaycoffelt
    @jaycoffelt 4 года назад +7

    Another "Industrial" group from the 1980s that was "heavy" in their own certain way is/was Front 242. Check 'em out!

    • @archer60x43
      @archer60x43 3 года назад +1

      Oh my gosh you’re another front 242 fan. It was hard finding your comment past all the heresy comments and Marilyn Manson comments. I’m happy there is another person here who listens to EBM.

    • @jaycoffelt
      @jaycoffelt 3 года назад

      @@archer60x43 Hey, sorry for the much belated acknowledgement of your comment and my reply.
      All right! Awesome! Another Front 242 fan! Glad to meet you!

  • @lindseyapplegate9121
    @lindseyapplegate9121 4 года назад +3

    I'll be real I've been hoping you would do a NIN song for a long time aaand i was very scared to watch this video lol. This is one of my favorite nine inch nails songs and it is very emotionally connected to me. Their genre is more industrial rock than metal, but the song Last from the EP broken is has more metal elements in my opinion but there isnt much to debate on that song in the way of religion.

  • @murrayguitarpickups9545
    @murrayguitarpickups9545 4 года назад +1

    I'm loving Guage's input, you're a solid wingman Guage. A good 'everyman' character. The guy who clarifies for the folks at home. Keep the vids coming and God bless

  • @Eggsandtacos
    @Eggsandtacos 4 года назад

    Listen to Heresy by NIN. That will be a wild discussion!!!! Great video as always Gentlemen! Love the channel! Keep it up!

  • @stephenwatson7730
    @stephenwatson7730 4 года назад +5

    You guys should check out NIN- God Break Down the Door it's off their newest release

  • @sc8tty
    @sc8tty 4 года назад +4

    "Makes me wonder if they deserve the label: industrial metal" lolololol

    • @WouldYouKindlyPls
      @WouldYouKindlyPls 4 года назад +2

      That comment actually physically hurt me.

    • @hanaboskova
      @hanaboskova 4 года назад

      Right? And you, industrial specialist, Listen to Trent, he said a looot about it.

    • @13crazydaisies
      @13crazydaisies 4 года назад +2

      @@WouldYouKindlyPls "I thought Tool and Nine Inch Nails were the same thing". That one did me in 😅

  • @itafushi_
    @itafushi_ 4 года назад

    I would love a video on closer and heresay! both have some interesting points for analysis

  • @AtomicToaster27
    @AtomicToaster27 4 года назад +1

    "That's a good truth... instead of a terrible lie." Legit laughed out loud. 👍

  • @matiasrenerodriguezrojas3740
    @matiasrenerodriguezrojas3740 4 года назад +7

    React to Heresy by NIN...you will have a lot to talk about that song in a "biblical perspective"

  • @ethanj5699
    @ethanj5699 4 года назад +10

    React to “The Sinner” by Memphis May Fire. MMF is a Christian band from U.S.

  • @Hexx_Iztenze
    @Hexx_Iztenze 4 года назад

    First I'd like to say I loved that you were into the Music and grooving. You came across as a fun open guy which is pretty cool.
    NIN was always more Industrial than Industrial Metal. It's all down to one guy Trent Reznor. He did everything himself and usually does but has a band for live shows.
    Trent/NIN like myself has struggled with depression and been through many issues in his life, has battled drug addiction.
    Some of us go through such dark times that we continue to fight through and feel we are fighting alone.
    We can often love but hate someone or something.
    You spoke well, you weren't dismissive of the feelings behind the song which is great.
    I am more an agnostic myself and was hesitant to click when this came up in recommendations but honestly I really enjoyed your reaction as well as your perspective.

  • @Sparrow141420
    @Sparrow141420 4 года назад

    Hey! I found this because of the NIN song, love what you're doing. Would love to see you guys do Heresy.
    Just fyi some of the stuff you said scares me too, the idea that this earth is a waystation (and therefore somewhat disposable) and that our citizenship isn't here feels misplaced. But that's me.
    Anyways! Thanks for putting your stuff out there! You guys seem cool.

  • @pietersourbron2528
    @pietersourbron2528 4 года назад +4

    That is what great great songwriters do: make the lyrics that way that you can apply it to your situation. In thiscase whether it is directed at god, an ex, a friend, parents... Trent and Maynard are masters in this and that is why they havean overlapping fanbase according to my humble opinion

    • @gressfes5911
      @gressfes5911 4 года назад

      THIS.

    • @pietersourbron2528
      @pietersourbron2528 4 года назад

      Jennifer White , not everyone has english as their mother tongue ;)

    • @gressfes5911
      @gressfes5911 4 года назад

      @@pietersourbron2528 I was agreeing with you, so I'm not sure what your response is supposed to mean.

    • @pietersourbron2528
      @pietersourbron2528 4 года назад

      Jennifer White haha lost in translation 😂 I started with “that” and i thought you pointed out it needs to be “this” 🤔👍

    • @gressfes5911
      @gressfes5911 4 года назад

      @@pietersourbron2528 oh I'm sorry...I didn't even think about it that way. I just simply meant I agreed with you.

  • @justinhoffman4267
    @justinhoffman4267 4 года назад +4

    I love your channel. I've been a born again Christian most of my life, strayed for a few years but came back to the faith a few years ago. Im a guitarist and metal head of twenty some years, so your channel really speaks to me. I love the demon hunter videos as Im a huge fan of the band. I used to love System Of A down and would LOVE it if you guys did one of there videos. Aerials or Spiders would be awesome. God bless your ministry. Jesus is Lord!!!

    • @joshuaspencer432
      @joshuaspencer432 4 года назад +1

      I'm right there with you man. Keep pursuing the one true God. He will not fail you!

  • @WmRike
    @WmRike 4 года назад +2

    I lived this song. What's important to note is that Trent Reznor wrote this song coming out of his teens and early twenties. The sense of betrayal is the realization, especially if you grew up in a religious household, that your parents and other authority figures were not honest with you. Maybe they were misled, too. But the version of religion we're taught is rarely as potent or authentic as the one we end up finding for ourselves.

  • @byransaul4325
    @byransaul4325 4 года назад

    Good analysis and made clear in different aspects of point of view.
    Interested in hearing your thoughts of
    Gemini Syndrome - Zealot

  • @marcinpaul1981
    @marcinpaul1981 4 года назад +3

    Well....Nine Inch Nails "Heresy" if we wanna stay in the topic of faith.

  • @LuciferMorningstar-eo9pn
    @LuciferMorningstar-eo9pn 4 года назад +4

    I really want to see you react to Muse - Exogenesis part 1,2 and 3.

  • @lilzak1121
    @lilzak1121 4 года назад +1

    Welcome back.

  • @charliet.sanford2495
    @charliet.sanford2495 4 года назад +2

    Thank you so much for addressing this. The church has failed the people by telling them that getting saved will fix everything in your life. I ran from God for years because that was the theology instilled in me. I watched my dad be miserable and angry 6 days a week, but act like life was perfect on Sunday mornings because it was expected of him. A relationship with God isn’t an immediate fix-all. It’s more like farming. It takes time, effort and patience to see the harvest.

  • @samanthagolding3876
    @samanthagolding3876 4 года назад +33

    Honestly Robert, I've realty REALLY been struggling spiritually. When you said "Jesus saves" and explained that it is from the wrath of God, a MASSIVE amount of weight lifted off of me. An insane sense of relief and I'm really glad I got to hear that. Thank you so much. God bless. 🙏
    Edit: I honestly cannot remember the last time I opened my Bible. I did tonight and guess what I stumbled across? Isaiah 1:18 Once again, thank you so much. I'm going to ignore any hate comments I might get, because I commented this, because I hope you get to see it and know how thankful I am. Keep doing what you're doing.

    • @elsieoliver1671
      @elsieoliver1671 4 года назад +2

      Not a religious fella but love Robert's content and always makes me think. I'm really happy for you I hope u found the peace you needed!!

    • @roberthoughton7127
      @roberthoughton7127  4 года назад +8

      Samantha, thank you for being bold enough to post your comment. I am greatly encouraged by your words. I am thankful to have been the conduit to deliver you a truth you needed to hear. Praying God continues reveal himself to you and that the gospel frees you from the burden and guilt of sin.

    • @anthonygaby8858
      @anthonygaby8858 4 года назад +2

      Also, can't say I'm religious guy myself but I agree with that other dude. The videos rob and Guage do are exactly what people need now. For the simple fact of creating dialogue outside your affirmation bubble, which is apparently impossible for the majority of youtube. Just because something doesn't agree with you 100% doesn't mean it needs to just not exist. People are limiting themselves so much and it's really inspiring to see these 2 guys acknowledge these things exist, give it the fair chance of an objective listen, and add their own perspective. So for that same reason it's cool of you to put yourself out there and say what you mean

    • @murrayguitarpickups9545
      @murrayguitarpickups9545 4 года назад +1

      Wow! I just read Isaiah 1 18.....I really needed to hear that. I feel God has been very reasonable with me as I work to stop sinning. Thank you sister

    • @murrayguitarpickups9545
      @murrayguitarpickups9545 4 года назад +4

      I agree with Anthony the reason these vids are so valuable is because they get the gospel out to those that wouldn't normally be exposed to it. And because people often get their worldview from the musicians and artists they love. Pastor Rob corrects the false views we get from our influences

  • @kmbrooksbank
    @kmbrooksbank 4 года назад +3

    You guys need to dissect the NIN song Heresy.

  • @drapdv
    @drapdv 4 года назад

    Kudos for, if nothing else, stepping out of your comfort zone and allowing your faith to endure scrutiny.

  • @aWOKEn1445
    @aWOKEn1445 3 года назад

    I didn't know there were so many sub-genres of metal: "industrial" metal etc. Thanks for getting me educated!

  • @prodigal71
    @prodigal71 4 года назад +5

    NIN & AIC were the soundtrack to my 20s & spoke to me like few other bands...a very dark time in my life but they made me feel not so alone in my struggles...I was a senior in high school when this song came out....great reactions guys

    • @FWDSUXARSE
      @FWDSUXARSE Год назад

      Both are my favorite bands for the very same reasons. Still listen to them 30+ years later.

  • @aaronpotton2641
    @aaronpotton2641 4 года назад +7

    Dude you need to react to "sunspots" or "head like a hole" by NIN

    • @marksolano3485
      @marksolano3485 4 года назад +1

      Aaron Potton sunspots is so badass

  • @wolftaco5975
    @wolftaco5975 4 года назад

    peace to you rob :)

  • @roadkill3405
    @roadkill3405 4 года назад

    Would love to see you both react to Lower Still by My Epic.
    Glad to see you both back in studio and keeping your family in prayer.

  • @deadpopstar
    @deadpopstar 4 года назад +27

    Marilyn Manson "The Reflecting God."

  • @macena94
    @macena94 4 года назад +3

    Perhaps 'Heresy' would be a great song for discussion

  • @an7ici7izen64
    @an7ici7izen64 4 года назад

    Definitely explore the rest of the immense NIN discography. Prolific and amazing evolution of their music. Trent did this entire album by himself essentially locked in an apartment with a few people sending him samples and helping with mixing later... He's a badass.

  • @themissingpatient
    @themissingpatient 4 года назад +2

    This is the 2nd song of an album. The first song, Head Like A Hole, sets it up. He repeats "God Money" over and over again. Pretty Hate Machine can be interpreted many ways but overall it's a break-up/loss of faith story. NIN didn't really establish the sound they are famous for until The Downward Spiral in '94. If you want to go really deep with it, The Becoming or Underneath It All. If you want to hear how far Trent has continued to explore themes of faith, The Good Solider or Find My Way.