I'm an American but I was raised internationally( my parents were diplomats) back during the height of the natural hair movement I had to BEG my parents to let me wear my hair out and do it on my own, I have 4chair as well. You do get bad treatment and nasty comments and it usually comes from your own people( it is punishment for not upholding the norm). My parents were very under handed to me while the foreigners I went to school with thought I looked amazing. For black Americans it is the older generation that make you think you're hair is ugly. the comments and treatment makes it seem like your hair is a burden but it's not. Now at 24 I can hold my head high no matter what MY PEOPLE say, but back when I was 16 not so much. I love your content by the way!
Your comment speaks a lot of truth. It reminds me of how there was a whole trend a while back, people were upset/mocking black women with natural hair who were with other racial partners. “You can tell when a black woman has a non black man, by her hair” and it’s literally just a natural hairstyle. It’s such an embarrassing self own that I don’t even know how these people who were mocking these women didn’t realize that they are in essence saying that black men hate natural black hair. I mean, it’s very much the case for a significant portion of them when it’s on a woman, but these people SWEAR that it’s not the truth, and it’s actually other races who hate black hair the most. In all communities you will find people who don’t like x y z however you’d think considering the black community is black they would be more accepting of the hair that is natural to them and yet they aren’t. And majority of the nasty comments comes from OTHER black people. other races if they have a problem/dislike it when they aren’t being loud mouthed they usually keep their comments to themselves. But a black person HAS to let you know how “nappy” they think your hair is. They they first to call you “bald headed”. It’s a serious illness throughout this community
Oh also, I think I'm mildly allergic to shea butter, since it's derived from a nut. People with nut allergies should keep almond/shea/etc based products in mind IMO. (I have a very similar skin condition on my hands and it's been interesting figuring out what triggers it and I think that contributes)
“An echo chamber”…my thoughts exactly. I think a lot of us have forgotten the “shock” and inner work of first getting used to seeing ourself with natural hair, especially if we big chopped from having a relaxer and had a twa. She was referring to those who may have been still in that space. It’s been a number of years and we’ve learned to accept and appreciate our tresses, especially us 4c girlies. ☺️ I don’t think Ashling had missed the mark, it’s just that most of us are unapologetically team natural already. 🌺
@@caribanna Just discovered it this year. If I use shea based products and wash my hands immediately I'm okay, but if I let it sit they flare up. Doesn't seem to make a difference if it's hair or body care products. Which is annoying because when my hands are dry I want to put lotion on, but all the lotions make it worse because 99% of them have it in these days especially Bath & Bodyworks 🙃
My worst experiences with my natural hair have been with other black women😢😅 But the overall response has indeed been positive!❤ The men and non black people I've met also really love natural hair. I think the saddie "not being picked" is coming from internally. But also, despite the positive reactions to my hair, the concept of goid vs bad hair is still very prevalent. It can affect you if you're not comfortable with yourself, especially when you're young. I had to grow into my hair confidence and I'm sure a lot of us did.
Nah men gave me helllllll about my natural hair when it was short. When it got longer I started seeing love all over. I’m not going to lie to cover for other people
@@jasminscarbrough2596Short hair has more to do with your face and bone structure than the hair itself. If you don’t have good bone structure, short hair will draw attention to it. It’s easier to hide behind long hair regardless of texture.
I think a lot of the messaging we hear about natural hair is propaganda to keep us from loving our natural selves. It kept me from wearing my own hair all my life. Ive had a good experience wearing my own hair now. Especially after I stopped taking advice from all the natural hair girlies who make it seem like box braids, wigs, and 15 hour wash days are the only ways to manage natural hair.
I love this so much! I’ve been using EWG for ingredients and it’s shocking. I want to make my own hair care line for coily hair and I’ve been weeding out potential ingredients with this. Especially with black women experiencing high rates of reproductive issues in the last 15-20 years. We need to pay close attention to ingredients.
I'm American, but my parents are Nigerian (born and raised - they moved to America after they were already adults) and my mom and every other Nigerian woman I know (personally) in and outside of the country don't like their natural hair. My mom was my first hater and didn't even want me to go natural which is why I waited until I went to uni. In the USA I don't think my natural hair hindered me at all. After moving to South Korea almost a decade ago, it definitely does hinder me somewhat. And I do get unsavory comments about my natural hair sometimes. But I've heard other people have different experiences than me here with their natural hair so who knows. I do think that in corporate spaces in the USA, natural hair definitely does hinder people in that aspect. Hence why laws had to be made yet many women still have to wigfish to get those kinds of jobs, but my job in the usa (and here in Korea) is a teacher so I had no issue in that regard.
Ur first video was not wrong! I still see content like this where people feel like that it really does hold them back or they don’t feel pretty enough or people tell them it’s not pretty enough. People i grew up with or who took care of me growing switched so fast on me when i went natural, i was a teen so it was hurtful but i knew what i liked so i never went back. Not everyone is that mentally strong imo. I love yinka’s content btw! Im not a big fan of edw because they can be a fearmongering source. But using it with that in mind i think it can get a nice tool
I’m going to try Soapnuts/ Soapberries as a natural shampoo. They are dried berries (not actually nuts lol) with a ph similar to our hair and skin that has been historically used as soap. RUclipsr Kayla Swann Mélange has a video showing how to boil them to use as a shampoo.
Re the last video and commenters describing strong self-love and positive treatment from others… I think you attract a very specific audience that wants to or already is actively working towards radical self-acceptance. Unfortunately my experience is that most people I know with my hair texture actively dislike and mistreat it. I do not think you missed the mark. Hope your period goes smoothly!
Your treatment depends on your texture. There are coils waaay beyond what is average or regular or 4c and waaaay beyond what you showing in the vid. Those hair types shown are accepted among black people. We aren't an incestuous tribe, we don't have "black hair", we have our own hair and unlike chinese no two seem to be the same. When we stop showing exceptional hair as goals( and yes exceptional hair can also be short), then we can be genuine about all hair being acceptable. Those that have hair that shrinks to 2 inches, need ro stop with trying to grow our hair long when it doesn't grow lengthwise and appreciate the fact that it SUPPOSED to be shrunk not on our butt unless you have lengthwise hair. We need to stop looking at each other and saying and thinking what its going to be eventually. People esp men give me unsolicited advice about other people that have my hair (when u cant know blk hair by looking at it) and changed the texture and how their"s is down their back. its equivalent to telling me to bleach my skin. my hair doesn't grow down my back its insane that people assume tight peezy hair will fall one day. My hair NEVER sweeps the bottom of the shampoo sink, it doesn't move under water swimming, my ends never point down, no matter what and i cant shake my braids nor loose hair. My hair grows down and is completely collapsed not shrunk, it also does not grow big away from my face or to the sun it grows into compact and dense coagulated pile which it remains in several inches later. length is a moot point and a nightmare for my hair type so I keep it cut. people hate it cut they hate it grown and still say it needs to be longer. Its the exception. Length will never weigh my hair down, every one is waiting for my hair to finally fall, without a relaxer, its Insanity.
All hair grows in length. With 4c hair the coils just make it look like that’s not the case. With 4c hair movement happens on a minute level. There’s nothing wrong with shrunken 4c hair, short or otherwise and I think the mindset and language about 4c hair needs to change. Your hair is not peezy! Yes accept your hair for how it is but see it as gorgeous! It can just be your hair is low porosity and takes more effort to absorb water and hence why it doesn’t “fall” when wet depending on your length of hair. It just takes opening up the cuticles of the hair. The falling when wet is usually because of absorption of water in your strands and not solely because of anyone’s curl pattern. Also 4c hair falling looks different based on porosity because the water can just run off the strands and not absorb.
@@caribanna my hair is Peezy and is beyond a 4c. Peezy and nappy aren't curse words. we need to be able to love ourselves without being marginalized to the pretty or attractive desirable box as women. Thats real esteem.
@@Candyrock15 yes its necessary. we need to emphasize blk hair has more genetic diversity its a scientific fact look it up and stop using catch alls like 4 c and blk hair . why are hair facts always offensive and sensitive??
@@caribanna yes my hair is peezy nippy that are not bad words as women lets free our selves from needing to check the pretty attractive box to have annesteem
I'm an American but I was raised internationally( my parents were diplomats) back during the height of the natural hair movement I had to BEG my parents to let me wear my hair out and do it on my own, I have 4chair as well. You do get bad treatment and nasty comments and it usually comes from your own people( it is punishment for not upholding the norm). My parents were very under handed to me while the foreigners I went to school with thought I looked amazing. For black Americans it is the older generation that make you think you're hair is ugly. the comments and treatment makes it seem like your hair is a burden but it's not. Now at 24 I can hold my head high no matter what MY PEOPLE say, but back when I was 16 not so much. I love your content by the way!
Your comment speaks a lot of truth. It reminds me of how there was a whole trend a while back, people were upset/mocking black women with natural hair who were with other racial partners. “You can tell when a black woman has a non black man, by her hair” and it’s literally just a natural hairstyle. It’s such an embarrassing self own that I don’t even know how these people who were mocking these women didn’t realize that they are in essence saying that black men hate natural black hair. I mean, it’s very much the case for a significant portion of them when it’s on a woman, but these people SWEAR that it’s not the truth, and it’s actually other races who hate black hair the most.
In all communities you will find people who don’t like x y z however you’d think considering the black community is black they would be more accepting of the hair that is natural to them and yet they aren’t. And majority of the nasty comments comes from OTHER black people. other races if they have a problem/dislike it when they aren’t being loud mouthed they usually keep their comments to themselves. But a black person HAS to let you know how “nappy” they think your hair is. They they first to call you “bald headed”. It’s a serious illness throughout this community
I definitely feel like online ends up becoming an echo chamber.
"My hair is Princess hair" Need that on a T-Shirt! 👏🏼👏🏼
Oh also, I think I'm mildly allergic to shea butter, since it's derived from a nut. People with nut allergies should keep almond/shea/etc based products in mind IMO. (I have a very similar skin condition on my hands and it's been interesting figuring out what triggers it and I think that contributes)
“An echo chamber”…my thoughts exactly. I think a lot of us have forgotten the “shock” and inner work of first getting used to seeing ourself with natural hair, especially if we big chopped from having a relaxer and had a twa. She was referring to those who may have been still in that space. It’s been a number of years and we’ve learned to accept and appreciate our tresses, especially us 4c girlies. ☺️ I don’t think Ashling had missed the mark, it’s just that most of us are unapologetically team natural already. 🌺
@@esthertjonesoh man, I never knew! I’m going to keep this in mind for my formulations
@@caribanna Just discovered it this year. If I use shea based products and wash my hands immediately I'm okay, but if I let it sit they flare up. Doesn't seem to make a difference if it's hair or body care products. Which is annoying because when my hands are dry I want to put lotion on, but all the lotions make it worse because 99% of them have it in these days especially Bath & Bodyworks 🙃
I haven’t received bad treatment either and I have been natural for 28 years. I think it is about your mindset and what rhetoric you consume.
My worst experiences with my natural hair have been with other black women😢😅
But the overall response has indeed been positive!❤
The men and non black people I've met also really love natural hair. I think the saddie "not being picked" is coming from internally. But also, despite the positive reactions to my hair, the concept of goid vs bad hair is still very prevalent. It can affect you if you're not comfortable with yourself, especially when you're young. I had to grow into my hair confidence and I'm sure a lot of us did.
Nah men gave me helllllll about my natural hair when it was short. When it got longer I started seeing love all over. I’m not going to lie to cover for other people
@@jasminscarbrough2596Short hair has more to do with your face and bone structure than the hair itself. If you don’t have good bone structure, short hair will draw attention to it. It’s easier to hide behind long hair regardless of texture.
I think a lot of the messaging we hear about natural hair is propaganda to keep us from loving our natural selves. It kept me from wearing my own hair all my life. Ive had a good experience wearing my own hair now. Especially after I stopped taking advice from all the natural hair girlies who make it seem like box braids, wigs, and 15 hour wash days are the only ways to manage natural hair.
I love this so much! I’ve been using EWG for ingredients and it’s shocking. I want to make my own hair care line for coily hair and I’ve been weeding out potential ingredients with this. Especially with black women experiencing high rates of reproductive issues in the last 15-20 years. We need to pay close attention to ingredients.
I'm American, but my parents are Nigerian (born and raised - they moved to America after they were already adults) and my mom and every other Nigerian woman I know (personally) in and outside of the country don't like their natural hair. My mom was my first hater and didn't even want me to go natural which is why I waited until I went to uni. In the USA I don't think my natural hair hindered me at all. After moving to South Korea almost a decade ago, it definitely does hinder me somewhat. And I do get unsavory comments about my natural hair sometimes. But I've heard other people have different experiences than me here with their natural hair so who knows. I do think that in corporate spaces in the USA, natural hair definitely does hinder people in that aspect. Hence why laws had to be made yet many women still have to wigfish to get those kinds of jobs, but my job in the usa (and here in Korea) is a teacher so I had no issue in that regard.
Ur first video was not wrong! I still see content like this where people feel like that it really does hold them back or they don’t feel pretty enough or people tell them it’s not pretty enough.
People i grew up with or who took care of me growing switched so fast on me when i went natural, i was a teen so it was hurtful but i knew what i liked so i never went back. Not everyone is that mentally strong imo. I love yinka’s content btw! Im not a big fan of edw because they can be a fearmongering source. But using it with that in mind i think it can get a nice tool
I’m going to try Soapnuts/ Soapberries as a natural shampoo. They are dried berries (not actually nuts lol) with a ph similar to our hair and skin that has been historically used as soap. RUclipsr Kayla Swann Mélange has a video showing how to boil them to use as a shampoo.
Re the last video and commenters describing strong self-love and positive treatment from others… I think you attract a very specific audience that wants to or already is actively working towards radical self-acceptance. Unfortunately my experience is that most people I know with my hair texture actively dislike and mistreat it. I do not think you missed the mark.
Hope your period goes smoothly!
I love this commentary.
Hey girl, Research the mirror principle. It will change your entire life.
Love Yinka!
Ooooo I love being this early ❤️
Your treatment depends on your texture. There are coils waaay beyond what is average or regular or 4c and waaaay beyond what you showing in the vid. Those hair types shown are accepted among black people. We aren't an incestuous tribe, we don't have "black hair", we have our own hair and unlike chinese no two seem to be the same. When we stop showing exceptional hair as goals( and yes exceptional hair can also be short), then we can be genuine about all hair being acceptable. Those that have hair that shrinks to 2 inches, need ro stop with trying to grow our hair long when it doesn't grow lengthwise and appreciate the fact that it SUPPOSED to be shrunk not on our butt unless you have lengthwise hair. We need to stop looking at each other and saying and thinking what its going to be eventually. People esp men give me unsolicited advice about other people that have my hair (when u cant know blk hair by looking at it) and changed the texture and how their"s is down their back. its equivalent to telling me to bleach my skin. my hair doesn't grow down my back its insane that people assume tight peezy hair will fall one day. My hair NEVER sweeps the bottom of the shampoo sink, it doesn't move under water swimming, my ends never point down, no matter what and i cant shake my braids nor loose hair. My hair grows down and is completely collapsed not shrunk, it also does not grow big away from my face or to the sun it grows into compact and dense coagulated pile which it remains in several inches later. length is a moot point and a nightmare for my hair type so I keep it cut. people hate it cut they hate it grown and still say it needs to be longer. Its the exception. Length will never weigh my hair down, every one is waiting for my hair to finally fall, without a relaxer, its Insanity.
All hair grows in length. With 4c hair the coils just make it look like that’s not the case. With 4c hair movement happens on a minute level. There’s nothing wrong with shrunken 4c hair, short or otherwise and I think the mindset and language about 4c hair needs to change. Your hair is not peezy! Yes accept your hair for how it is but see it as gorgeous! It can just be your hair is low porosity and takes more effort to absorb water and hence why it doesn’t “fall” when wet depending on your length of hair. It just takes opening up the cuticles of the hair. The falling when wet is usually because of absorption of water in your strands and not solely because of anyone’s curl pattern. Also 4c hair falling looks different based on porosity because the water can just run off the strands and not absorb.
"unlike Chinese no two are the same" was that really necessary?
@@caribanna my hair is Peezy and is beyond a 4c. Peezy and nappy aren't curse words. we need to be able to love ourselves without being marginalized to the pretty or attractive desirable box as women. Thats real esteem.
@@Candyrock15 yes its necessary. we need to emphasize blk hair has more genetic diversity its a scientific fact look it up and stop using catch alls like 4 c and blk hair . why are hair facts always offensive and sensitive??
@@caribanna yes my hair is peezy nippy that are not bad words as women lets free our selves from needing to check the pretty attractive box to have annesteem