Literally yesterday I i ordered parts to a practically identical PC to the 1000$ one (5 7600 non X, gigabyte 7800xt) with just a different motherboard and SSD. Fills me with confidence to see a recommendation so similar at around the price I ordered my parts
I'd say the 1000$ PC is where it happens. GPU is the main factor, and anything past a $430 7800XT is going to cost more per frame. Though it also depends on your use case, like if you're buying a PC for 4k. A 4080 will give you a worthwhile upgrade to your 4k experience even if it's technically more expensive per frame than a 7800xt, though you could argue that a 1440p monitor would be a sweet spot in it's own rite.
The best value per dollar today is the Ryzen 5600x and the rx6600/rx6650xt (100usd CPU/200usd GPU) going lower or higher you'll see diminishing returns.
For gpu diminishing returns happen at 4070 super imo. For 600 that card is unbeatable. U can game 1440p 144hz and 240hz for esports titles easily on it, or even 4k just dont expect higher fps than 70-80 or so (before frame gen) and dont expect path tracing or giga ray tracing. After 4070 super the d>minishing returns happen very fast. The 4070 ti super is 10-15% faster and 4gb more vram for 900, 300 more, not worth it. The 4080 super and 4090 for 1100+ and 1600+ are clearly not worth it. For cpus diminishing returns dont really happen. A 7800x3d is great for most uses, but a 7950x3d (and soon 9950x3d) allow u to have games run on the 8 cores with the 3d v cache while other demanding programs run on the other 8 cores without the v cache, making sure ur gaming 3d cores are fully reserved for ur game. So even 12 and 16 cores isnt a waste. For motherboard the asrock x870 pro rs for 200 is all u need, even for 9950x3d. If u want better audio just use a DAC. So unless u specifically need smth on the higher end mbs like 10 gigabit ethernet, theres not much of a point of getting a higher motherboard. For ram 2x16 ddr5 for 150-200 and 2x24 ddr5 for 200-250 with hynix a-die and m-die respectively for overclocking is best. 2x32 dont overclock as well, and 4 sticks overclock worse than 2. For psus theres never diminishing returns either. The more wattage ur psu has, the longer it takes before its fan turns on, as most modern psus have zero rpm fans now, but only until 50% of the wattage capacity of the psu. After that it quickly becomes loud. So having 1200w psu means ur psu fan isnt turning on till 600w, so u can game 100% silently. For 1600w that's 800w. And ofc platinum and titanium offer more silence. And then atx 3.1 and pci-e 5.0 compatibility is just nice to have. And ofc modular cables.
@@Fede-z7d what about the rx6800 for $330-$360 for literally double the performance? or the 5700x3d for double the performance of the 5600x at twice the price?
@@nillilamos3152 not really just order direct from the usa and once you paid exchange rate ,shipping, borders fees etc... your price is probably the same or very close to it
I am a PC builder, I run a business doing essentially what yall have done here, words cannot describe how happy it makes me to see yall actually have put together some proper parts list!! so many times ill watch other tech channels (i wont call anyone out) that just have blatantly mismanaged budgets and are advertising it to a large audience who will follow them and end up with sub par builds, either way I'm glad yall have made this one and it renews my faith in your ability to stay up to date with pricing and availability!
Coming from someone who games at 1440p on an 11 year old socket I can guarentee to all budget gamers that you do not need to worry about AM4 being 'old' You're far better off putting that money into a GPU rather than an AM5 system
@@nobility3416 No worries, for further reference I'm using a 4th gen i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads. The single game that's hard for me to run is Baulder's Gate 3 where I manage down to 30FPS at ultra 1440p in the middle of the big city and 60fps outside of it. Every other game is 80+ easy That's the best processor I can get for this socket, AM4 on the other hand still has modern CPUs being released as of this year that are far and beyond more powerful than my ancient i7 that released over a decade ago
For you viewers, We just bought and built a bundle from Canada Computers last week. (kinda like a microcenter) "pre black friday bundle" Combo was: 9700x / B650 Tomahawk / 32 gig DDR5 6000... Total was $767cad after taxes We have on hand both a 4070 and basic 3070 and its a beast with either card. With the 3070 were talking 500-800+fps in Minecraft boys!!!! Was caving and saw it breach 1000fps haha. I noticed from watching a few CPU videos, on the graphs, the 9700x was always floating around as a potential. Absolute banger bundle if your looking to upgrade or have a decent card on hand.
Nice I have just purchased Parts here in the UK for nearly the same system Lian Li Mesh II C Performance case, MSI B650 Tomahawk, 9600X CPU, CX650 PSU, 32GB Corsair DDR5 6000mhz memory, Corsair P3 Plus 2TB NVME, Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE Cooler all for just under £700, will be using my current 3060 12GB card initially but plan to upgrade to a 4070 Super or maybe a 5060 in the next 12 months price dependent, can't wait to get it built.
I still think I got the deal of a decade when in Nov of 2022 I got a 12700k, 3080 10gb, 2tb ssd, 32gb ram desktop for $1300, then price adjustment down to $1050 after thanksgiving. NH so no sales tax, $1050 for a 3080 12700k build is insane even today, brand new.
Finally! An actual “here is what to get” video. I hate those theoretical guidance videos where they teach you how to shop. I don’t have time to sort and research. I would love to see LTT to do a best for the buck PC video every quarter or so. Just don’t forget the non-gamers like myself. Streamers, video editors, and cpu-hungry professions also need some love 😊
Go high end from a few gens ago maybe 12th gen intel, a 12 core is plentiful so probably a 12700k on a ddr4 platform so u can get higher capacity ram, probably a 64gb kit and the put any and all money you have left over into a decent nvidia gpu as you will want the cuda acceleration which is used in most applications, I’d recommend a 3080 12gb if you have the budget for it. The exact parts don’t really matter but something in this range will be able to play triple a titles at 1440p no problem and will be an excellent work station. You can even go older if you want to save more but you are going to give up modern features like pcie gen 4 and 5. Tldr: ideally a 12 core cpu but you can work with an 8 core that has hyperthreading, min 32gb of ram and an nvidia gpu that has at least 8gb of vram, any less and you are going to be stuck at 1080 esp in newer titles
well, thats actually a specific case scenario, as an editor and gamer my self i know the struggle, but you will be looking for that informatin elsewhere, bc the state of the art is a bit more complicated than just the gaming experience. I recently upgraded mi PC for editing and i had to purchase a 2 generation old processor from intel, bc the integrated graphics are quite useful on the video editing programs. and in this specific case could purchase a amd chip for more gaming performance, but amd was not an option for me in the price range i can afford.
I'm so out of touch with pcs today built on back in 2003 when amd athlon came out & pci express was the business but out my budget, these specs today just blow my mind
Recently bought a machine in 500 euro price point. Went with 12400f, with GTX 1070 ti. Plenty of horsepower to play even modern game at lower settings and 1080p. Sometimes struggle to get 60 fps but for 500 euros, it is a killer and I am planning to slot 4070 super with next year or so.
Built an awesome rig this summer with R9 7900X3D and RX 7900 XT and it's been a quiet little beast of a machine ^_^ (Shoutout to Elijah's Thermaltake Tower Micro 300 video that pushed me to finally build my first rig!)
Just finished buying all the parts for my first build legit a day or 2 ago. Really cool to see I got some matching parts with the last build CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor CPU Cooler - MSI MAG CORELIQUID E360 75.04 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard - Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard RAM - G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory Storage - Crucial T700 W/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive GPU - PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Case - NZXT H9 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case PSU - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Case Fans - Thermalright TL-C12C-S 66.17 CFM 120 mm x7 - Wallets still crying so I'm cheaping out on case fans lol
Loveeee this type of content. Even when you dont need to upgrade, knowing in the back of your mind “hey i remember a video that might be helpful” when someone asks about this is wonderful
I don’t need another ratcheting screw driver but I’ve always wanted an LTT one! Can’t wait for mine to arrive! Update a week later! I got my mystery one and it’s the Retro (Purple)! I love it!
That was truly an entertaining performance. Linus, this was one of the best hosting job you did in a while in my opinion. I didn't think I'd be laughing in a PC build recommendation video. Aight, back to playing games in my Ryzen 5 1400 + RX 550 4 GB PC.
How about a 1000$ nonGaming-PC? Like something my parents could use for the next 6 or 8 years as they did with their actual one. The hardest task they do is light photo editing of their holiday snapshots
In that case I don't think you even need to spend close to $1000. The $500 'Game Tomorrow' build with integrated graphics and optimized for longevity would probably be way more than enough. If you wanted to upgrade anything then I think the storage would be most helpful. If the most you do is light photo editing, you probably won't even notice an upgrade to CPU or RAM as long as it's decent, but going from 500gb to 2tb storage would make a big difference in how long they could use it without needing to upgrade.
Either get a cheap used gpu like $70 gtx 1070, or an integrated gpu with the ryzen G cpus, those are pretty good compared to intel's which suck. Photoshop benefits a decent amount from a faster gpu, and so does generating images with upscayl, so depends on how light u mean.
As @Snappy1143 said, they don't need $1000 PC. Just go with "Game Tomorrow" build. CPUs are not aging as quickly as GPUs. Just because newer CPUs are faster doesn't mean the older ones are so slow you can't use it. Buy AMD APU today and when GPU performance won't be up to task then just add whatever the entry level GPU is at the time. My guess is that they will use 1080p monitor anyway so even the Intel integrated graphics from 10th gen CPUs would be able to handle that. If you have extra budget then you can buy better or more ram and don't forget the storage so they can store their holiday snapshots.
I love these winter buying guides. I especially enjoyed the series of videos that covered things like keyboards and monitors. Really helps a lot just in general when I am looking at parts later on in the year just to know what is truly good and what’s not
Though I really like my new PC, I wish i did things differently as I know so much more now. I have already upgraded my case and fans (which had more to do with aesthetics). The only thing I truly regret at this point is that I didn't go for a 4070ti super instead of my current 4070ti when picking parts. The 4080S would be nice too but seems a bit overkill for my uses. I guess there's room for some improvements before moving on to a new GPU.
NO GPU at 500$ can be alright if the person is playing esports titles only but I think it is a MUST to get a gpu preferably used at this budget because you can actually play decently demanding games with it.
If you squeeze a gpu in the 500$ budget you will need to make a lot of sacrifices on other parts, like an older cpu/motherboard combo, less efficient power supply, slower SSD / RAM... And if you want to upgrade later you will need to replace a lot of parts. Whereas with their 500$ setup they have already a lot of great things, if you add a 300$ GPU on sale in a few months you will have an excellent setup.
Agreed, seeing the 4060ti be the 400€ price range is painful. That's how much i spent on my second hand 3080 and that thing runs circles around it in everything but power efficiency. Honestly if u arent getting the 1000€ cards in the 40 series bracket there is no point when the 30 series second hand has gotten so incredibly cheap
@@mitsuhh i literally live in europe and bought a 3080 for 400€ + shipping, it was the 10gb version but considering it gets similar performance to the 4070 for 100-200€ less im more than happy
@@bastienx8 not necessarily, you could get an r5 5500, rx 6600, b450 mobo, 16 gb 3600mhz ram, and a 512 gb nvme drive for around 500 USD. It'll give you a much better gaming experience while you wait for the money to upgrade, and when you do, you could get a better gpu and PSU and retain the other parts and it'll still be great. (Im from India so prices are according to what they are here) This is considering new parts only, used is ofc a LOT better
I almost skipped this video because of the overused tiering pricing system. But this actually has explanations and comparisons behind the tips rather than just picking items. It's hard connecting with the videos because pricing is too evergreen without helping find alternatives because specs can be baity or important.
Just purchased a Power Spec Beast. My first high end system. It sparked my interest in learning more about how everything works. I have learned a lot from your videos. Thank you for the content.
Imho a buying guide becomes worthless when it depends on catching deals. Who's the target audience of this video? If you're familiar enough with a product category to hunt for bundles you don't need a guide. Just show how to most efficiently hit the relevant price points at msrp and if aunt Marge happens to stumble into a good deal while shopping for her sons first PC, even better.
6:25 FF7 Remake was briefly shown in this video to demonstrate 4k performance. It's worth noting that FF7R has dynamic resolution scaling always enabled so the game may not have been running at native 4k in the clip in this video. There are mods that can disable DRS to get more accurate performance metrics, but I don't think that's really the point of this video. Most people use resolution scaling when targeting 4k anyways.
While I prefer to build my own PCs.When I was getting a ham at Sam’s Club for thanksgiving, came across an insane clearance deal and had to pick it up. i7 13700f with a 240mm aio, 32gb ddr5, and a rtx 4060 ti for $509. Sometimes going in store will get you crazy deals
I played for a long time and so did many people back then, I think you really can play at 20 FPS even if it's not a good experience. I still would call it playable tho, back then I wanted to play some games and my GPU didn't support Shader Model 4, that is what I would call not able to play them.
Less than 45 is not playable, between 45 and 60 is choppy and shitty but its still playable. I absolutely would not go below 40-45, it's just pure misery. The integrated gpus are only for esports titles and older or super light games like hearthstone
I think it would be nice to include a quick pre-built tip before or after the "diy" parts. Let's say for parents who want to buy it as a surprise but don't want to build it. May give you a wider viewer range ;)
I'm so glad you posted how to read the motherboard names chipsets.. maybe a video of how to read Motherboard names, AMD / Intel CPU names since they can be so overwhelming when trying to find the difference between them all, and graphics card names like TI / super/ and AMD names
9:26 Something to add on here, is that a person could potentially go for a used power supply as well from some of the 'known to be better usually' brands. But I would suggest looking into the manufacturers warranty on it first before buying. If it's got one of the 10+ year warranties, you'll probably be fine buying that unit. Probably. Always are exceptions, and so it's probably best to just buy a new PSU instead. But there are old ones that work well, will do you just fine for the most part, and still have a few years warranty left on them no less. If someone is selling one of those units for a good price, consider buying it. Just make sure to ask for a print out of the receipt if they have it available, for warranty purposes of course. Again, this is one of those things where it's probably best to just buy new. But if you really need to save 20-40$... or want one that is normally more expensive new but found one for a deal; go ahead and grab it if it has warranty left on it. Just be sure to put aside some money for later when you need to replace it. 200$ should cover ya even with some of the more pricey units usually. And you'll notice I don't mention any brands specifically, because ultimately a bunch of them will do well enough for most people, but my own preference would be considered a bias if mentioned. I tend to stick to just one company, because aside from one bad run they had a while back, they've been great all other times and seem to do better than most other brands. But that could also just be sample bias on my part. PS. And whatever you do, do not mix and match cables from different PSU's to make up for any missing cables that unit you are buying might not have anymore. Only buy what has all cables included. No cablemod cables, nothing 3rd party. 1st party only. Again, warranty purposes. Cablemod stuff might be fine otherwise in most cases aside from the whole GPU power connector situation for Nvidia, but you don't need those extra variables to deal with potentially causing problems without any immediate way to tell... aside from them puffing smoke suddenly.
Meanwhile I am spending $4000+ on a PC in January Case: Lian Li Dynamic EVO XL (White) MOBO: GIGABYTE X870E AORUS PRO ICE RAM: Kingston Fury Beast White RGB XMP 64GB 6000MT/s DDR5 CL30 Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 420 A-RGB (White) Case Fans: Lian Li UNI Fan SL-LCD Wireless 120 (Reverse Blade) ARGB Fan x6 Lian Li UNI FAN SL120 V2 RGB x3 PSU: Super Flower Leadex VII XG 1300W 80+ Gold (White) CPU: AMD 9950X3D (When it releases in January) GPU: Nvidia RTX 5090 (When it releases in January) Random accessories: Lian Li Strimer Plus V2 24 Pin (PW24-PV2) - Non-Wireless - Addressable RGB Power Extension Cable (MOBO RGB Power Cables) Lian Li Strimer Plus V2 12+4Pin (12VHPWR) - Non-Wireless - to 3 x 8pin - PW168-8PV2 Black (GPU RGB Power Cables)
knowing what you ACTUALLY NEED for what youre expecting, and shopping around the internet / watching vids like this will save you lots if you dont need the latest and greatest
Why does every single PC build video have to be about gamers? What about doing some for the variations of other computer-demanding usecases? Would love to see more builds for Video editing, photo editing (color calibrations and monitor reviews?), music production etc....
@ I'm not trying to claim that gaming isn't more popular. I'm just saying they could ALSO do other types of builds. Not telling them to stop making gamer content either. Okay?
There are so few differences between a computer that is made for gaming and a computer made for production. If you're making money using your computer you're probably gonna go for something like the 1000 or 2000$ builds since all that means is you need a better gpu and cpu. The only thing that would change for audio or video or photo production would be things that connect into the computer such as a good monitor or a good DAC. There is no such thing as a photo editting edition gpu or cpu. You can get ram optimized for music production (Though maybe you need more of it? ...in which case thats an easy solution!! just buy more of what ever you got!)
I really appreciate the infographic using the 4090 as 100% and showing the comparative performance of the 4080 super and the 7900xtx as a portion of that. Really helps highlight how much more of a premium you're paying for such a small jump in performance, or in this case how much you save in total build cost for such a minimal 'sacrifice' in performance.
These are “conditional” prices. No good case was $40 on Black Friday. The B650 series cards are at least $125. So, the idea of the video is to plan PC build for a year and then pray that prices fall sometime.
You don't need to go that high for a decent case. You can find decent to good ones on newegg alone for under $75. Like the nzxt H5 flow currently on sale for $59. The Sama sv02 for $58 and ARGB-Q5-BK Black for $54. The montech AIR 100 For $59. Salman T7 compact for $39.
Building a computer for a friend (In Europe, prices are through the roof) we got really good components, 32gb of DDR5, a 7800XT and a 9600X, the whole computer + a screen for less than 1200€. Really happy with it. Especially when I see prebuilt with a 7800X3D and a 4060 for nearly 2k here.
Just built a $1000 PC for my daughter for Christmas. 7600x and 7800xt basically the same as the recommendation, took a special trip to micro center for their bundle deals
Thank you so much for doing such a video again! The last time was in like... 2019? And back then it helped me out immensely with determining how I should allocate my money when buying different parts and what parts are a good bang for the buck.
I’ve been using an EVGA BP750 power supply for almost a year now. Can confirm it’s decent if you’re on a budget and need something from a brand that’s trust worthy.
At 12:53 we mistakenly spell "RTX 4080 Super" incorrectly. There is in fact NO Z in RTX. But there is TWO in RIZZ. Makes you think.
I'll hold this against you forever /s
LinuzRizzTips
this is deep 😔😔
Brainrot LTT.
holy shit
we need a monitor buying guide :D
monitors unboxed
Use your TV that is mounted over the fireplace 😂
Monitor Unboxed is a great place for that
I just bought Samsung Odyssey G5 34 from best buy its 310CAD off.
Asus PG32UCDM, done.
Literally yesterday I i ordered parts to a practically identical PC to the 1000$ one (5 7600 non X, gigabyte 7800xt) with just a different motherboard and SSD.
Fills me with confidence to see a recommendation so similar at around the price I ordered my parts
There's actually a website called logicalincrements, which does exactly the same as this video.
yeah i just purchased (like this morning) a r5 7600x, and 4070 super. nice stuff
I am helping my Brother build his son his first gaming PC. I went with a 7600x and 7800xt. Some pretty good deals for black friday.
7800xt is a great card I got one for 430 like 6 months ago unbeatable value
Quick, replace the MB and SSD with the ones from the video! /s
3:34 a shaft extension? Sounds like just what I need.
LMAO
Same, bur mine has great personality
💀💀💀💀💀💀
Yeah can I just get shaft extention on its own. Idk what that has to do with a screwdriver anyway
It's not how extended it is that matters, it's what you do with it.
Seems like they actually did what they talked about in one of the last WAN-shows with a video category for every price point.
There is no way they changed their whole plan for the video and released it in 6 days 😅
@Ugoonsquad-j1i ok
@Ugoonsquad-j1i how does RUclips still allow these bots?
Yeah curious to see how it will do
Seems so, they put in a lot of work. Gotta love the grind
We just need a highest value per dollar video. Like when does diminishing returns start to creep in. Passmark got a pretty good list
I'd say the 1000$ PC is where it happens. GPU is the main factor, and anything past a $430 7800XT is going to cost more per frame. Though it also depends on your use case, like if you're buying a PC for 4k. A 4080 will give you a worthwhile upgrade to your 4k experience even if it's technically more expensive per frame than a 7800xt, though you could argue that a 1440p monitor would be a sweet spot in it's own rite.
1000-1200 USD is where things really start being hard to justify unless you really need the extra power.
The best value per dollar today is the Ryzen 5600x and the rx6600/rx6650xt (100usd CPU/200usd GPU) going lower or higher you'll see diminishing returns.
For gpu diminishing returns happen at 4070 super imo. For 600 that card is unbeatable. U can game 1440p 144hz and 240hz for esports titles easily on it, or even 4k just dont expect higher fps than 70-80 or so (before frame gen) and dont expect path tracing or giga ray tracing. After 4070 super the d>minishing returns happen very fast. The 4070 ti super is 10-15% faster and 4gb more vram for 900, 300 more, not worth it. The 4080 super and 4090 for 1100+ and 1600+ are clearly not worth it.
For cpus diminishing returns dont really happen. A 7800x3d is great for most uses, but a 7950x3d (and soon 9950x3d) allow u to have games run on the 8 cores with the 3d v cache while other demanding programs run on the other 8 cores without the v cache, making sure ur gaming 3d cores are fully reserved for ur game. So even 12 and 16 cores isnt a waste.
For motherboard the asrock x870 pro rs for 200 is all u need, even for 9950x3d. If u want better audio just use a DAC. So unless u specifically need smth on the higher end mbs like 10 gigabit ethernet, theres not much of a point of getting a higher motherboard.
For ram 2x16 ddr5 for 150-200 and 2x24 ddr5 for 200-250 with hynix a-die and m-die respectively for overclocking is best. 2x32 dont overclock as well, and 4 sticks overclock worse than 2.
For psus theres never diminishing returns either. The more wattage ur psu has, the longer it takes before its fan turns on, as most modern psus have zero rpm fans now, but only until 50% of the wattage capacity of the psu. After that it quickly becomes loud. So having 1200w psu means ur psu fan isnt turning on till 600w, so u can game 100% silently. For 1600w that's 800w. And ofc platinum and titanium offer more silence. And then atx 3.1 and pci-e 5.0 compatibility is just nice to have. And ofc modular cables.
@@Fede-z7d what about the rx6800 for $330-$360 for literally double the performance? or the 5700x3d for double the performance of the 5600x at twice the price?
I'm looking to build a new pc in the next two months. This video will definitely saves me a whole lot of time. Thank you.
You're building a PC to use for just 2 months??
oh I think "in" is the right word 😅
I would say these are good starting points.
Tip #1: disregard everything in the video and wait until January when the new RTX 5000 series is launched.
depends on if they actually found the best of each price or if they just made the best of what they had in the warehouse...
WTF THIS IS PERFECT TIMING, Me and my friend were just discussing about a mid-grade pc
@@mochisharvey aa we too
Linus is listening in on your phone...
its unbelievable how much different the prices are in the US compared to here in the Netherlands. Its way more expensive here!
it's because US price are without taxes. every county in the USA has different taxes for common goods. dollar prices are always net prices.
Its not that much more. its around 25% and that's because of vat... The none tax prices are not that different
@@nillilamos3152 buy with Amazon?
@@nillilamos3152 not really just order direct from the usa and once you paid exchange rate ,shipping, borders fees etc... your price is probably the same or very close to it
I might be wrong but the average tax paid in the US is considerably less than EU VAT - so it’s still more money
Literally upgrade now before tariffs cause everything to be 25% more expensive. Once those prices jump, you know they won't come down
Going to have Americans smuggling cheaper GPUs out of Canada soon.
@@Sebastian-fn1qg It's going to impact everyone in North America, not just the US.
Not sure anyone should be building a game tomorrow machine that's less than 8 cores
Seriously. I’ve been buying parts each week just to have for a future build while stuff is still cheap😢
@@JesseArt let me dream. Just for a little.
0:16 It's the Dacia Sandero
@@leksaaq hehehehehehe
Very good, I see you are a cultured fellow.
You beat me to it!
Anyway...
Very culture indeed
James may X ltt collab would be great. Something about high tech model trains or somethin
I am a PC builder, I run a business doing essentially what yall have done here, words cannot describe how happy it makes me to see yall actually have put together some proper parts list!! so many times ill watch other tech channels (i wont call anyone out) that just have blatantly mismanaged budgets and are advertising it to a large audience who will follow them and end up with sub par builds, either way I'm glad yall have made this one and it renews my faith in your ability to stay up to date with pricing and availability!
So, this is the first video I am seeing of LTT after (I think) 3 years. It gets me so happy that the intro didn't change. Such a throw-back!
Some videos doesn't have the intro anymore
I miss his beard tho
0:17 Bro hit us with a Professor Farnsworth from Futurama
Coming from someone who games at 1440p on an 11 year old socket I can guarentee to all budget gamers that you do not need to worry about AM4 being 'old'
You're far better off putting that money into a GPU rather than an AM5 system
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i was just debating this when i decided to check the comments thanks for the re-assurance!
@@nobility3416 No worries, for further reference I'm using a 4th gen i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads. The single game that's hard for me to run is Baulder's Gate 3 where I manage down to 30FPS at ultra 1440p in the middle of the big city and 60fps outside of it. Every other game is 80+ easy
That's the best processor I can get for this socket, AM4 on the other hand still has modern CPUs being released as of this year that are far and beyond more powerful than my ancient i7 that released over a decade ago
Orrrrr they can build on am5 today by spending a little extra and play 10+ yrs confidently
@@NoName5589 what GPU are you using?
For you viewers, We just bought and built a bundle from Canada Computers last week. (kinda like a microcenter)
"pre black friday bundle"
Combo was: 9700x / B650 Tomahawk / 32 gig DDR5 6000... Total was $767cad after taxes
We have on hand both a 4070 and basic 3070 and its a beast with either card.
With the 3070 were talking 500-800+fps in Minecraft boys!!!! Was caving and saw it breach 1000fps haha.
I noticed from watching a few CPU videos, on the graphs, the 9700x was always floating around as a potential. Absolute banger bundle if your looking to upgrade or have a decent card on hand.
Nice I have just purchased Parts here in the UK for nearly the same system Lian Li Mesh II C Performance case, MSI B650 Tomahawk, 9600X CPU, CX650 PSU, 32GB Corsair DDR5 6000mhz memory, Corsair P3 Plus 2TB NVME, Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE Cooler all for just under £700, will be using my current 3060 12GB card initially but plan to upgrade to a 4070 Super or maybe a 5060 in the next 12 months price dependent, can't wait to get it built.
I still think I got the deal of a decade when in Nov of 2022 I got a 12700k, 3080 10gb, 2tb ssd, 32gb ram desktop for $1300, then price adjustment down to $1050 after thanksgiving. NH so no sales tax, $1050 for a 3080 12700k build is insane even today, brand new.
A 3080 is like $350 used, its not as insane as u think
@ in 2022 during the gpu shortage? Yes it was, also all new not used
@@kerkertrandov459 Thats today, not almost 3 years ago.
@@tamparockout17 yeah but right now ur 3080 is not as good as u think. So get ur ass to work and buy a 4080
@@kerkertrandov459 a 3080 can run everything a 4080 can
Would have liked a 1500$ pricepoint
Same that's literally my budget for a new 2025 pc
why buy new system to run new games that suck ass?
the same as 1000 but with a better gpu, maybe get 32gb of ram if you want and the rest to the cpu or storage
@@ryanmitchell6827 GTA6
So you can play older games at higher framerates and resolutions, duh. @@ryanmitchell6827
That "Good News everyone" gave me futurama flashbacks 00:16
Professor?
@@SparkyDabs i was just about to say that
Finally! An actual “here is what to get” video. I hate those theoretical guidance videos where they teach you how to shop. I don’t have time to sort and research.
I would love to see LTT to do a best for the buck PC video every quarter or so.
Just don’t forget the non-gamers like myself. Streamers, video editors, and cpu-hungry professions also need some love 😊
I’m glad there’s someone like Linus to help those who are looking for a good PC at every price range this holiday season.
The question that's always on my mind when I watch these videos is what about us video editors who also game? What is the best bang for buck pc build?
It depends on which is more important to you, I guess. Either way, it’s going to look pretty similar.
Go high end from a few gens ago maybe 12th gen intel, a 12 core is plentiful so probably a 12700k on a ddr4 platform so u can get higher capacity ram, probably a 64gb kit and the put any and all money you have left over into a decent nvidia gpu as you will want the cuda acceleration which is used in most applications, I’d recommend a 3080 12gb if you have the budget for it.
The exact parts don’t really matter but something in this range will be able to play triple a titles at 1440p no problem and will be an excellent work station. You can even go older if you want to save more but you are going to give up modern features like pcie gen 4 and 5.
Tldr: ideally a 12 core cpu but you can work with an 8 core that has hyperthreading, min 32gb of ram and an nvidia gpu that has at least 8gb of vram, any less and you are going to be stuck at 1080 esp in newer titles
well, thats actually a specific case scenario, as an editor and gamer my self i know the struggle, but you will be looking for that informatin elsewhere, bc the state of the art is a bit more complicated than just the gaming experience. I recently upgraded mi PC for editing and i had to purchase a 2 generation old processor from intel, bc the integrated graphics are quite useful on the video editing programs. and in this specific case could purchase a amd chip for more gaming performance, but amd was not an option for me in the price range i can afford.
Get a ps5 and a m4 mac Mini!
@@adamturtle69 worst advice
make a pc building price point but with a monitor and all other accessories included.. could be a fun video idea
I'm so out of touch with pcs today built on back in 2003 when amd athlon came out & pci express was the business but out my budget, these specs today just blow my mind
For the $119 bundle on the ltt screwdrivers, I wish they included the precision screwdriver instead of the stubby
Recently bought a machine in 500 euro price point. Went with 12400f, with GTX 1070 ti. Plenty of horsepower to play even modern game at lower settings and 1080p. Sometimes struggle to get 60 fps but for 500 euros, it is a killer and I am planning to slot 4070 super with next year or so.
Built an awesome rig this summer with R9 7900X3D and RX 7900 XT and it's been a quiet little beast of a machine ^_^ (Shoutout to Elijah's Thermaltake Tower Micro 300 video that pushed me to finally build my first rig!)
@@meganwalker9148 are you playing 1440 p?
@EltonFilms on average, yeah
Wow the charts for the power supplies is something I’ve never seen before. Really helps visualize why it’s important to buy a good quality unit
Hey guys, not watched the video entirely, but thankyou, this is sure to help lots of us that struggle with gift ideas for tech related family
Just finished buying all the parts for my first build legit a day or 2 ago. Really cool to see I got some matching parts with the last build
CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler - MSI MAG CORELIQUID E360 75.04 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard - Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
RAM - G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Storage - Crucial T700 W/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
GPU - PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB
Case - NZXT H9 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case
PSU - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Case Fans - Thermalright TL-C12C-S 66.17 CFM 120 mm x7 - Wallets still crying so I'm cheaping out on case fans lol
What's the GPU ?
@ oh sorry. Copy paste error lol. Fixed it
3:56 But Doctor. Christmas IS my birthday!
@@nirast2561 if this channel was made the same time a kid was, It would be a rebellious teen by now 😂
This should en done every year regardless of view count. Comprehensive and extremely usefule to anyone looking up these kinds of thinds
Great video right before Black Friday. Thank you
The first 500$ PC guide cleared many of my doubts.
Thanks LTT 🙏🏼❤
The video optimization for download at 1080p is excellent 👌🏻 Thank You LTT team ❤🎉
The “more money” TIMAH impression was excellent
Loveeee this type of content. Even when you dont need to upgrade, knowing in the back of your mind “hey i remember a video that might be helpful” when someone asks about this is wonderful
10:15 David's scream there got me so good lmao
I don’t need another ratcheting screw driver but I’ve always wanted an LTT one! Can’t wait for mine to arrive!
Update a week later!
I got my mystery one and it’s the Retro (Purple)! I love it!
I would argue $1,500 is also a price point worth showing
Yes, many people are looking to buy in that price range.👍
So instead of 450$ gpu for the 1000$ build, get the 950$ gpu from the 2000$ build, that would be great 1500$ set
That was truly an entertaining performance. Linus, this was one of the best hosting job you did in a while in my opinion. I didn't think I'd be laughing in a PC build recommendation video.
Aight, back to playing games in my Ryzen 5 1400 + RX 550 4 GB PC.
How about a 1000$ nonGaming-PC? Like something my parents could use for the next 6 or 8 years as they did with their actual one. The hardest task they do is light photo editing of their holiday snapshots
In that case I don't think you even need to spend close to $1000. The $500 'Game Tomorrow' build with integrated graphics and optimized for longevity would probably be way more than enough. If you wanted to upgrade anything then I think the storage would be most helpful. If the most you do is light photo editing, you probably won't even notice an upgrade to CPU or RAM as long as it's decent, but going from 500gb to 2tb storage would make a big difference in how long they could use it without needing to upgrade.
Either get a cheap used gpu like $70 gtx 1070, or an integrated gpu with the ryzen G cpus, those are pretty good compared to intel's which suck. Photoshop benefits a decent amount from a faster gpu, and so does generating images with upscayl, so depends on how light u mean.
As @Snappy1143 said, they don't need $1000 PC. Just go with "Game Tomorrow" build.
CPUs are not aging as quickly as GPUs. Just because newer CPUs are faster doesn't mean the older ones are so slow you can't use it. Buy AMD APU today and when GPU performance won't be up to task then just add whatever the entry level GPU is at the time. My guess is that they will use 1080p monitor anyway so even the Intel integrated graphics from 10th gen CPUs would be able to handle that.
If you have extra budget then you can buy better or more ram and don't forget the storage so they can store their holiday snapshots.
loving the Actual lab tests in yalls recommendations now. cant wait to buy a computer and KNOW what im getting from top to bottom. Keep it up!
10:24 linus doing his best Canadian accent
Game tomorrow was the strategy I made for my first pc, it's one of the most logical and great options
We need a tv buying guide for every price
fantastic video! please make this a yearly event if possible
Bro took floatplane chat advice seriously 👏🏽👏🏽
I love these winter buying guides. I especially enjoyed the series of videos that covered things like keyboards and monitors. Really helps a lot just in general when I am looking at parts later on in the year just to know what is truly good and what’s not
12:49 "RTZ 4080 SUPER" What? 😅
Upper left corner
First time witnessing a typo?
Though I really like my new PC, I wish i did things differently as I know so much more now. I have already upgraded my case and fans (which had more to do with aesthetics). The only thing I truly regret at this point is that I didn't go for a 4070ti super instead of my current 4070ti when picking parts. The 4080S would be nice too but seems a bit overkill for my uses. I guess there's room for some improvements before moving on to a new GPU.
Yeah, I wish I didn't threw away 1k British Pounds for PNY 3080Ti in 2022 🥲
Great card but I could get 4080 not long after 😂
NO GPU at 500$ can be alright if the person is playing esports titles only but I think it is a MUST to get a gpu preferably used at this budget because you can actually play decently demanding games with it.
If you squeeze a gpu in the 500$ budget you will need to make a lot of sacrifices on other parts, like an older cpu/motherboard combo, less efficient power supply, slower SSD / RAM... And if you want to upgrade later you will need to replace a lot of parts.
Whereas with their 500$ setup they have already a lot of great things, if you add a 300$ GPU on sale in a few months you will have an excellent setup.
Agreed, seeing the 4060ti be the 400€ price range is painful. That's how much i spent on my second hand 3080 and that thing runs circles around it in everything but power efficiency. Honestly if u arent getting the 1000€ cards in the 40 series bracket there is no point when the 30 series second hand has gotten so incredibly cheap
@@darthpotato1987 if you're in the usa
@@mitsuhh i literally live in europe and bought a 3080 for 400€ + shipping, it was the 10gb version but considering it gets similar performance to the 4070 for 100-200€ less im more than happy
@@bastienx8 not necessarily, you could get an r5 5500, rx 6600, b450 mobo, 16 gb 3600mhz ram, and a 512 gb nvme drive for around 500 USD. It'll give you a much better gaming experience while you wait for the money to upgrade, and when you do, you could get a better gpu and PSU and retain the other parts and it'll still be great. (Im from India so prices are according to what they are here)
This is considering new parts only, used is ofc a LOT better
Amazing Video LTT! Love the multiple tiers and motherboard explanations on which ones are actually worth it. 👌
We need the same for workstations please
Just built my friend a perfect Budget PC. Right in this ballpark. 🎉
0:43 wait a minute, i though JAWA is an island in Indonesia 😅
I thought it was a creature from Star Wars
@SiOreng tbf Indonesia needs some love too
that’s Java
this is litterally what i needed rn
10:25 - the Canadian Prime minister South park joke did not go unnoticed
Yup
I need Rileys guide with titles such as "the gentleman" back! Still one of the best videos you made
I almost skipped this video because of the overused tiering pricing system. But this actually has explanations and comparisons behind the tips rather than just picking items. It's hard connecting with the videos because pricing is too evergreen without helping find alternatives because specs can be baity or important.
Just purchased a Power Spec Beast. My first high end system. It sparked my interest in learning more about how everything works. I have learned a lot from your videos. Thank you for the content.
Imho a buying guide becomes worthless when it depends on catching deals. Who's the target audience of this video? If you're familiar enough with a product category to hunt for bundles you don't need a guide. Just show how to most efficiently hit the relevant price points at msrp and if aunt Marge happens to stumble into a good deal while shopping for her sons first PC, even better.
Also buying a 6 core cpu on a 1000 build is so meh
💯 Next time they are going to use prices from used ebay auctions...
6:25 FF7 Remake was briefly shown in this video to demonstrate 4k performance. It's worth noting that FF7R has dynamic resolution scaling always enabled so the game may not have been running at native 4k in the clip in this video. There are mods that can disable DRS to get more accurate performance metrics, but I don't think that's really the point of this video. Most people use resolution scaling when targeting 4k anyways.
$500 Xmas gifts? I need better friends and family LOL
Every now and then you need to tickle yourself 😅
While I prefer to build my own PCs.When I was getting a ham at Sam’s Club for thanksgiving, came across an insane clearance deal and had to pick it up. i7 13700f with a 240mm aio, 32gb ddr5, and a rtx 4060 ti for $509. Sometimes going in store will get you crazy deals
That is insane lol.
3:12 now I’m worried about my power supply
I’m all about that Apevia life. 😂
It's amazing how every time I search for a specific tech related video, linus has uploaded it less than a day before.
2:01 I wouldn't call 20 fps "capable of playing modern titles"
Describe 'modern' loosely enough and avoid the AAA titles and it can.
Yeah I'm not sure what they were thinking when they put that in
I played for a long time and so did many people back then, I think you really can play at 20 FPS even if it's not a good experience.
I still would call it playable tho, back then I wanted to play some games and my GPU didn't support Shader Model 4, that is what I would call not able to play them.
Less than 45 is not playable, between 45 and 60 is choppy and shitty but its still playable. I absolutely would not go below 40-45, it's just pure misery. The integrated gpus are only for esports titles and older or super light games like hearthstone
Yeah, those apu are a trap.
I think it would be nice to include a quick pre-built tip before or after the "diy" parts. Let's say for parents who want to buy it as a surprise but don't want to build it. May give you a wider viewer range ;)
"every price" * skips from $1000 to $2000 *
bro almost everyones going to be buying a pc somewhere in between 1k and 2k...
I'm so glad you posted how to read the motherboard names chipsets.. maybe a video of how to read Motherboard names, AMD / Intel CPU names since they can be so overwhelming when trying to find the difference between them all, and graphics card names like TI / super/ and AMD names
Why is Linus wearing Russell Brand's magic anti-emf amulet?
👀👀👀👀 very serious review incoming?
9:26 Something to add on here, is that a person could potentially go for a used power supply as well from some of the 'known to be better usually' brands. But I would suggest looking into the manufacturers warranty on it first before buying. If it's got one of the 10+ year warranties, you'll probably be fine buying that unit. Probably. Always are exceptions, and so it's probably best to just buy a new PSU instead. But there are old ones that work well, will do you just fine for the most part, and still have a few years warranty left on them no less. If someone is selling one of those units for a good price, consider buying it. Just make sure to ask for a print out of the receipt if they have it available, for warranty purposes of course.
Again, this is one of those things where it's probably best to just buy new. But if you really need to save 20-40$... or want one that is normally more expensive new but found one for a deal; go ahead and grab it if it has warranty left on it. Just be sure to put aside some money for later when you need to replace it. 200$ should cover ya even with some of the more pricey units usually.
And you'll notice I don't mention any brands specifically, because ultimately a bunch of them will do well enough for most people, but my own preference would be considered a bias if mentioned. I tend to stick to just one company, because aside from one bad run they had a while back, they've been great all other times and seem to do better than most other brands. But that could also just be sample bias on my part.
PS. And whatever you do, do not mix and match cables from different PSU's to make up for any missing cables that unit you are buying might not have anymore. Only buy what has all cables included. No cablemod cables, nothing 3rd party. 1st party only. Again, warranty purposes. Cablemod stuff might be fine otherwise in most cases aside from the whole GPU power connector situation for Nvidia, but you don't need those extra variables to deal with potentially causing problems without any immediate way to tell... aside from them puffing smoke suddenly.
Here this is a vary good build
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor,Thermalright Phantom Spirit 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler,ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard,TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory,TEAMGROUP T-FORCE G50 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive,PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card,Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower Case,MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850| W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply,Base Total: $1506.00
This build is not 1500 lmao
@kerkertrandov459 yes it is lamo
USD?
Meanwhile I am spending $4000+ on a PC in January
Case:
Lian Li Dynamic EVO XL (White)
MOBO:
GIGABYTE X870E AORUS PRO ICE
RAM:
Kingston Fury Beast White RGB XMP 64GB 6000MT/s DDR5 CL30
Cooler:
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 420 A-RGB (White)
Case Fans:
Lian Li UNI Fan SL-LCD Wireless 120 (Reverse Blade) ARGB Fan x6
Lian Li UNI FAN SL120 V2 RGB x3
PSU:
Super Flower Leadex VII XG 1300W 80+ Gold (White)
CPU:
AMD 9950X3D (When it releases in January)
GPU:
Nvidia RTX 5090 (When it releases in January)
Random accessories:
Lian Li Strimer Plus V2 24 Pin (PW24-PV2) - Non-Wireless - Addressable RGB Power Extension Cable (MOBO RGB Power Cables)
Lian Li Strimer Plus V2 12+4Pin (12VHPWR) - Non-Wireless - to 3 x 8pin - PW168-8PV2 Black (GPU RGB Power Cables)
0:53 WHATSUP WITH THE LIGHT MODE? 🧑🦯
Linus is clearly a pro. The way he moved that front magnetic grill around 3:58 was elite.
Me after dropping $300 on a case: 👁👄👁
DO NOT buy Kingston NV2. EVER.
Unless you like your PC freezing for 2 hours randomly...
@@altaccount648 weird, i bought a nv2 in august 2024 and have been running it daily with 0 issues, you may have gotten a faulty unit.
The Lian Li 207 is $80 and it's on the top of the charts of gamersnexus
@@kerkertrandov459 I'm not proud of getting entangled in the HYTE Y60 hype...
knowing what you ACTUALLY NEED for what youre expecting, and shopping around the internet / watching vids like this will save you lots if you dont need the latest and greatest
Why does every single PC build video have to be about gamers? What about doing some for the variations of other computer-demanding usecases? Would love to see more builds for Video editing, photo editing (color calibrations and monitor reviews?), music production etc....
literally nobody cares about those
@@TechnoviousYT literally loads do
The majority of people care about gaming ure prob in the minority
@ I'm not trying to claim that gaming isn't more popular. I'm just saying they could ALSO do other types of builds. Not telling them to stop making gamer content either. Okay?
There are so few differences between a computer that is made for gaming and a computer made for production. If you're making money using your computer you're probably gonna go for something like the 1000 or 2000$ builds since all that means is you need a better gpu and cpu. The only thing that would change for audio or video or photo production would be things that connect into the computer such as a good monitor or a good DAC. There is no such thing as a photo editting edition gpu or cpu. You can get ram optimized for music production (Though maybe you need more of it? ...in which case thats an easy solution!! just buy more of what ever you got!)
I really appreciate the infographic using the 4090 as 100% and showing the comparative performance of the 4080 super and the 7900xtx as a portion of that. Really helps highlight how much more of a premium you're paying for such a small jump in performance, or in this case how much you save in total build cost for such a minimal 'sacrifice' in performance.
For the $500 build, I just want to chime in and say, avoid the crucial P3 series SSD. They fail fast and will let you down. I speak from experience!
@@Matthew-dp3hf jayztwocents said they use them all the time in their builds and crucial never failed them...?
how many have you had fail?
What's your sample size? I've had one running basically 24/7 since March and it's been rock solid and Crucial tends to be really reliable overall.
Literally the best content you made in right time
Keep up the good work
Better buy it now before the tariffs everyone voted for make everything 25% more expensive!
Awesome video.
I've been wanting to either buy a pre-built or build one myself so this will be really helpful.
These are “conditional” prices. No good case was $40 on Black Friday. The B650 series cards are at least $125. So, the idea of the video is to plan PC build for a year and then pray that prices fall sometime.
You don't need to go that high for a decent case. You can find decent to good ones on newegg alone for under $75. Like the nzxt H5 flow currently on sale for $59. The Sama sv02 for $58 and ARGB-Q5-BK Black for $54. The montech AIR 100 For $59. Salman T7 compact for $39.
Lian li 207 is 80 and top of the charts on GN
Built my own PC recently and it's good to see this video telling me I basically did a lot, if not everything, right.
Building a computer for a friend (In Europe, prices are through the roof) we got really good components, 32gb of DDR5, a 7800XT and a 9600X, the whole computer + a screen for less than 1200€. Really happy with it. Especially when I see prebuilt with a 7800X3D and a 4060 for nearly 2k here.
I suggested a video like this some time ago. Thank you LTT! You guys rock!
Just built a $1000 PC for my daughter for Christmas. 7600x and 7800xt basically the same as the recommendation, took a special trip to micro center for their bundle deals
Thank you so much for doing such a video again!
The last time was in like... 2019? And back then it helped me out immensely with determining how I should allocate my money when buying different parts and what parts are a good bang for the buck.
This is a SUPER cool video, and would love to see these more on a regular basis and some higher end builds as well.
Literally just started doing research on what to suggest for my brother's build. Thanks for this!
Best kinda buying guide and perfectly timed. Thanks LTT Team
With this one, the video targets all people interested in building a pc for Christmas
finally tech tips on linus tech tips XD
(ngl idc what u post ill still watch it cuz ure one of the few youtubers i watch almost everyday so)
I literally bought components for a new PC earlier this week 😂 Seems like I wasn't too far off though 🙂
This needs to be an annual video idea. But put it out mid October, so we have a way to research the components and wait for sales and whatnot.
Glad to see David is still here :(
I’ve been using an EVGA BP750 power supply for almost a year now. Can confirm it’s decent if you’re on a budget and need something from a brand that’s trust worthy.