Whether we wanted it to or not we lost our Commander. May the traveler's light guide you home. Rest in power Lance Reddick. Petition to make a "Reddick's Lance" exotic rifle to honor him
I was thinking a titan exotic helmet called ot the helm of zavala but it would have really tied the commemoration to a single class, your idea is better
If they really wanted to recapture some nostalgia, resurrecting the Speaker would have hit perfectly. Bill Nighy’s voice would send me straight back to 2015.
Bungie: "We want the Final Shape's location to be a mystery for you to crack the secrets of without any help" Also Bungie: "HERE'S OUR ENTIRE DESIGN PHILOSOPHY OF THE FINAL SHAPE'S LOCATION"
I hope the fireteam finder also has tags for learning differences. As someone with a learning difference myself, this would make it easier to find people who understand my condition and thought process.
Thats a really great point. Not sure how you'd quantify it in game - ie you could have a sherpa score, but what gives you sherpa points? maybe base it on number of clears compared to the number of clears other fireteam members have, but then you could have people that get carried and only ever do ad clear with tons of clears, and players who have only done it once or twice but have watched guides, read strategies and learned the mechanics. Not sure how you would do it, but if they did something like that then the reqard could be a boost to your chances of getting the raid exotic, or better stats on drops
When they say we'll be exploring "only a fraction" of The Traveler, that worries me, as Destiny 2 world sizes are already only a fraction of those compared to any other RPG, including Destiny 1. Bungie as always working their PR team hard to outdo The Sims 4 when it comes to marketing tiny-ass locales as warranting full-priced DLCs.
To be fair, the Traveler is HUGE. Like, “You could fit every destination space we’ve ever had inside it and have room for more” HUGE. If they were gonna let you explore the entire thing literally, they may as well make an entire game inside it.
They said it’s a linear destination so it’s not really open world is what I’m getting? Also looks like a whole location made from reused assets which is great 👍
@@domi7411 I think they were going for for like a “tube” or “Timeline” of sorts… You start at the D1 tower where the Saga begins, and at the other end there’s The Witness’s citadel.
@@domi7411If you watch the full presentation, they explicitly said it's only a linear destination until you complete the campaign, at which point it becomes a normal destination. I'm not saying this to be an ass btw, just wanted to clarify.
@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire They've had 10 years to make an entire game. But instead they yeeted half of it out the window, and sold off the other small maps as individual DLCs, just like The Sims 4. Bc why make a full game when you can just rip players off for more money?
Even though I'm not happy with how Bungie has handled the last year of Destiny, I can't bring myself to give up the decade that I've given to this game. I pray Final Shape is good and closes this saga in an epic way.
Played D1 and early D2. Forsaken was fantastic, after that it was downhill fast. Ive been back several times, but the game has no retention power at all. Atleast if you're not a casual...
I played destiny 2 first when the game launched, bought it a month later for the campaign, and since i didn't had the expansions i left the game. Came back in forsaken and did the same thing, came back in Beyond Light and I've been playing it since. Even though I've been on and off on this game and while it may have its bad moments like any other video game, its still a part of my teenage years. I was 15 when this came out, and now I'll be 21 this October, i hope this goes out with a bang.
So, this is what I took from this showcase: 1) All the light subclass will have new variants to them, but if they are for F2P or for players who buy the Final Shape, like Bungie did on Forsaken, Beyond Light, and Lightfall, is TBA. 2) Cayde is back, but most likely as the destination vender; he will not return to the Tower. 3) We're getting to replay missions through out D2 that is "important", but only on the current destinations in the game because Bungie can't just bring back old content (Red War, Curse of Osiris, Warmind, and Forsaken) with replayability for it falls under the "Over Delivery" umbrella. 4) A rework on Guided Games with many tags, but no tags like " Have No Mic", "Hunters Only", "Stasis Only", etc. 5) Replacing Seasons with Episodes, but it will cost the same as a season, will have season themed loot, and will be vaulted like a season. 6) Bring back Exotic missions that Bungie made, but not Whisper of the Worm or Outbreak Perfected, and they will be craftable and better then the ones you earned. 7) The Collector's edition is a model of the better Tower, not that inferior one, and it will cost at least three digits.
Lightfall was the only expansion in my entire Destiny journey that I didn't pre-order (and haven't bought to date) and that's a good thing, because after all the reviews and information that came out and everything I saw and followed (which was a lot) I would be very sad and upset right now. The Final Shape will be the second Destiny expansion that I won't pre-order. It's an important expansion, it's the last one, but that can't be the only reason for a purchase. I'm not going to let myself be beaten by FOMO. Unfortunately, I'm going to wait for reviews and information from trusted content creators who I know love Destiny more than anything. I sincerely hope that this will be the best season yet of Destiny and that it will bring me back to a game that I gave up with great sadness and dedicated many years of my life to.
preach. i tapped out a long time ago, waiting for the story to be finished before i touched Destiny again. If this last expansion isnt good i wont ever come back to any Bungie project.
Ok, so I've watched the entire showcase. You want past or present players to come back. Open every bit of content D1 and D2 in the aspect of The Final Shape. You're ending a legacy between D1 and D2, light and dark saga. Open everything from Destiny and Destiny 2 core content and DLC. Think of it as the "Master Guardian Edition".
After the last 3 years, my faith in bungie’s storytelling, production value and lore consistency is pretty low but I won’t lie when I say the final shape is looking great so far. I just really really hope it delivers.
@@dtps_champion6016witch queen was pretty mediocre compared to Forsaken and Taken King. You can see the lower production value in its cutscenes and content. The throne world feels empty and sort of unfinished compared to the Tangled Shore, Oryx’s ship and Dreaming City Losing activision’s support was a double edged sword
Y'all, just please remember that this time last year we were getting so hyped up about lightfall. What we're seeing and hearing is marketing dressed in the idea of a game. It could be fully representative of the actual game, or it could absolutely not... We have no way of knowing. Me personally? I'm checked out. Never thought I'd leave destiny but lightfall burned me too hard. I stuck around till Deep but started to realize that, nope, I really actually just can't trust destiny to deliver what I'm wanting, what it claims to be selling. Showcases from a corporation like Bungie should be assumed to be pure marketing and treated with skepticism. Buy and play the last shape! If you love the game, you don't have to leave it like I did. Just wait to see if it's what you were promised. Don't pre-order.
I feel exactly this way. I WANT to be excited, but I can't trust Bungie anymore. I booted up after 3 months or so, and just felt gross. The game just feels like a shell of what it once was.
Yes! Gross is the right word for the feeling I get too. And refreshing is the word for what it feels like to now have time for other games that also have a higher time-investment but without Bungie's... issues.
I’ve preordered every single expansion since Rise of Iron; I’m not so sure I can see myself preordering this. What they have shown has felt more than underwhelming for what’s supposed to be the final chapter of a 10 year saga. I admit, I had my expectations too high expecting something forsaken level or higher. How many times are they going to reskin or just completely copy and paste things from destiny 1? And was it too much to ask for a final darkness subclass? I saw the light supers and was immediately disappointed but I still kept my hopes up. Maybe it would be like forsaken where every subclass in the game got a whole new path with different abilities and new supers? Nope. We got 1 new super and 1 new aspect for 3 subclasses (And 1 super was copy and pasted from Destiny 1). Wow. Even after that I kept my head up. I’m honestly not so convinced about the new location either. And what happened with the exotics? I really hope that there’s much more weapons than what they showed. Half of what they showed were old exotics from destiny 1. And seriously? We don’t get a new enemy race. I could understand giving us 2 enemies but only 1?? I’m sorry I don’t understand game design in the slightest and I can recognize that; but where’s all this money going? Bungie has made more than they ever have and they have so much more staff than ever before. Why do the expansions feel smaller and smaller? What is going on?? As a whole, something just felt off and different about this showcase. In the past, Bungie never failed to make their trailers and showcases feel very hype. But now, I really only feel disappointed.
Don't think of the game as a Witcher 3 or Skyrim, and you get less dissapointed (not comparing the games, just throwing examples) I've had a certain mindset with this game for years. I don't expect god tier stuff from Bungie. I'll appreciate that we get at least something, but I won't praise Bungie for it unless they earn it.
Bro, something like a 12 player campaign to really make this feel like a finale and a gigantic war would be completely incredible Or make npcs of the main characters that actually do things, that could make it feel like a big war as well
It would be kinda cool if the entire Campaign was technically a patrol zone on the back end, so you would see other guardians completing the story alongside you.
Very excited for the final shape. I am hoping that the story in the campaign and the raid will provide closure and lead to new beginnings. Can't wait to see what's looming in the horizon and hopefully the universe will be as big and expansive as Star Wars.
I've always been hyped after every showcase so far but this time I'm.... I don't know. I'm not disappointed, I'm not mad, I'm not happy, I don't look forward to it, I just feel .... Nothing. No emotions really. Think my time is over for Destiny. Or at least I'm gonna have a really really really long pause. Never has a showcase left me so cold
@@zeroghost115 Why touching grass ? As I already mentioned, the showcase just did not touch me in any way. Neither good or bad. What I wanted ? I haven't had any hopes or something special in mind. I just wanted to see what they gonna show us. Maybe after over 3000 hours I'm just burned out for good. I can't say what's different this time around, why they could hype me up the years before but not this time
I'm not the most hardcore Destiny player, but definitely an all time fave and I can't wait to experience The Final Shape and the conclusion to this really long journey. Hope they land it well!
@@MumboJumboZXC not really, I'm just a fan. It's 3 letters as well but not the same. The animation and characters on this are so detailed I had to comment 😊
yall see the comments. It's good for the game because they are finally seeing that the people aren't happy with the state of the development. They have something to prove because it's that same "make or break" moment from Taken King release and Forsaken release. People seem to still not get this that it repeats in cycles.
Yeah I see the comments are a bunch of entitled children crying. People bitched at bungie that they wanted more content. Then when they got rushed content, they complain it isn't as good.
@@zeroghost115 what do you win for shiling for a company that explicitly said, in a public presentation, that they do the minimal effort and rip their customers off intentionally? and that they actually tell their team to not work more than the minimal even when they have the free time to do so?
That has been the theme since the season of arrivals, they have no other ways to make the story interesting it seems. But hey, why the hell were we expecting this lil indie studio to make sth good in the first place?
... I'm not sure how I feel about The Witness being locked behind a Raid. I've been unable to do Raids since Warmind, I lack the time to gear up (I have an actual job, I will not make Destiny a second one), the friends to group up (they all fled while Activision was in control), and the skill to complete (I'm becoming an old man, sue me). And before you go 'Just LFG!!!!!1!11!11' I've tried and have been told to F off dozens of times as recently as Deep Stone when I tried to get into the Raid scene. From what's being said here, I'm not going to be able to complete the journey, and if I can't, why bother at this point? I want desperately to finish, but I keep getting left behind. The end here is going to be locked behind something I cannot do and it's looking like Marathon is going to have a skill basement higher than I can probably muster as my carpel tunnel is getting worse so I'm not even going to try there, I might just have to be done with Bungie at this point.
Take this with a massive grain of salt, it’s been leaked that after the raid is completed plays can load into a 12 man mission finale so you might not actually need to do the raid.
They said in the post show that you'll get a satisfactory conclusion to the story. But I personally feel THE most satisfying ending should be achieved in the raid
Does anyone think that they will sell a Destiny: The Light & Dark Saga with all the storyline content (base, expansions, seasons, and peisodes) ever???
This axe super makes me think that either Well of Radiance or Dawnblade needs to do something similar. Leaving the sword behind for others, or the caster, to use.
Destiny always has been a very unique and fun game experience. Say what you want but there is plenty of activities to play with friends, and a lot of replay ability.
It's the same activities for 10years and it's LINEAR. you can't deviate from the path they want you to take. WE all know strikes are a joke in this game and Raid Quality has gone downhill.
What are you talking about dude. replayability is about variety. Activities in this game are sparse and static, they don't change or have RNG tied to them. Its a stagnant pool of grind.
It looks amazing but I am missing the music that usually goes along with these reveals. “Cruel World” and “Used to the Darkness” became part of my playlist and I am missing a new song
Eris is lowkey the best character in Destiny, it'll be criminal if they kill her off instead of doing something super interesting with her. Besides, Morla has an incredible voice for narration/exposition, they're shooting themselves in the foot if they make it so that she can't narrate any future trailers lol.
@@anthonysweeney5364I’m thinking partly the same. I don’t Xivu is gonna die anytime soon and the episode will deal with her and Eris again after the defeat of the witness what ever else may happen.
My question is, if I miss the act 1 of episode echo, like if I have a trip to go and gonna miss like few week or so of the 6 week, is it possible to go back and do it when act 2 come out?
People have been asking for it for years. If they go back and play D1 it is not. that great because our guardians have been power crept so hard over what they were back then. It's another sad nostalgia play and honestly most of the people asking for it are casuals that want self revive back. Just shows that they never knew the true power of that super was not using that node.
1:05:08 very important. key word being guardians. Lore card in 2015... Season of the lost opening cutscene... "Who is Savathun you ask? You already know, O' guardian mine..."
Honestly, as a returning player, I've missed so many "Campaigns". I want to go back and play those Story lines BEFORE i jump into the new content etc. Is that Finally actually gonna happen? I mean as of my Time Marker at 2hrs its kinda the gist I'm getting... always disliked how older story lines disappeared when a new Expansion dropped. Technically, I paid for that content... I wanna play it whenever I please Solo or with friends.....
Yea, the key word there is "Some". If i paid for all the previous content, i want to play all the previous content. Especially if I pay $80 Plus per Expansion. I get it though. but still being able to play "Some" of the content that I paid for is kind frustrating. I want everything i paid for, Missions, Cut Scenes etc. @@cerebralassassin2185
1:09:08 I’m thinking a horde like mode. Edit: please don’t be locked behind a pay wall, or a lightfall pay wall of which requires it to be bought, just like season 21 SoTD.
I'm just hoping that the Arc Blade for Hunters becomes a roaming Super since it wouldn't make any sense for it to just be that close and get shot in the face if it does ever get a Nerf in the future. From what I can see it is suppose to closen the gaps between you and the combatants around you, but it will add up to the Super's ability if it were a mix-hybrid of both "Golden Gun : Deadshot" and "Nightstalker : Spectral Blades" that gets limited time to use and free roam in third person. It would make more sense that way ideally, but we'll see I guess if it retains the D1 Bladedancer.
I want to make something very clear: The Witness is about to face a horde of Guardians, some who are former spartans, space marines, operators, etc. The Witness isn’t ready, cause we are all very dangerous.
If you never buy that travesty, it's a 100% discount that lasts forever 😀 (On Steam the discount is till September 5, I'm assuming it's the same on other platforms)
@@ethan_garrell46807 hmm I dunno... I feel like they danced around the details of that intentionally as they don't want to spoil the surprise. Will have to wait and see, but I feel like there's a twist!
@@ShadowFang24 Okay and? House of Wolves, Curse of Osiris, Warmind, Shadowkeep, Beyond Light, and Lightfall were all awful. 3 Bad expansions and 2 good ones in D2 (Forsaken, Witch Queen). Is that really a viable enough track record for you to safely preorder their next expansion? They have more genuinely BAD DLC/expansions than they do good ones.
Looking forward to coming back!
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Whether we wanted it to or not we lost our Commander. May the traveler's light guide you home. Rest in power Lance Reddick. Petition to make a "Reddick's Lance" exotic rifle to honor him
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Redricks lance and you should be able to sit on it too
RTL
I was thinking a titan exotic helmet called ot the helm of zavala but it would have really tied the commemoration to a single class, your idea is better
@@KindDmoN what you mean the way lucky pants got past on to the hunters?
0:00 pre show
56:46 final shape showcase
1:43:54 post show interview
2:51:16 season of the witch gameplay
1:16:39 "cayde is vergil"
1:55:05 please don’t make Vaal caour the hardest boss in the game
"at the end it'll cash out and you get a whole mess of rewards" - 2 legendaries and an engram
Nah just 2 tokens
I thought the same thing when I saw it
2 tokens and a blue
What would you want? I had this conversation with friends
@@joshuanunez8397high stat gear, exotic armor, sone weapons ascendant shards all depending how good you and your team do
i love that in every trailer with a hole or cliff the warlock jumps first
Perfectly represents the (mental) state of warlock (players) in the meta 😅😅
im a lock main
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I love how the warlock does the assassin creed failing jump
If they really wanted to recapture some nostalgia, resurrecting the Speaker would have hit perfectly. Bill Nighy’s voice would send me straight back to 2015.
"The Light lives in all places.... In all things...you can block it...even try to trap it...but the Light always finds its way."
Well we see his room so until they dont say no everything is possible
Hell yeah
“You’re like a little person you’re not this godslayer anymore”
if I can punch it, I can kill it
From warlock to Titan, PREACH
damn straight
I need a weapon.
Void titan has been what I've waited years for!
Don't get too excited, 5mins in PvP the babies will cry and all of it will be nerfed into the ground.
@@BMacanik found the dumb shot gun ape.
@@BMacanikthe unfortunate truth
Bungie this is your chance to enable 12 man raid. Go out with a bang
That would be a new level of insanity
Better yet do 20 man raid
I say 12 because this was a glitch a while back. Raids can definitely support it.
I MISS THAT GLITC SO MUCH.
I WANT A 12 MAN RAID!!!!
at 53:07 I really hope that mix ends up in the game. It sounds absolutely amazing.
I think its Lindsey Sterling
true sounds so good :D
Sounds like a slowed down version of Crystalize@@Vohasiiv
If anyone can find the extract track without the dubstep of crystallize, please lmk
second that. @@Vohasiiv
Bungie: "We want the Final Shape's location to be a mystery for you to crack the secrets of without any help"
Also Bungie: "HERE'S OUR ENTIRE DESIGN PHILOSOPHY OF THE FINAL SHAPE'S LOCATION"
knowing the design philosophy and figuring out exactly how everything works are 2 totally different things
they showed like the same 3 places, there’s definitely more to it than what we saw, especially after they talked about “unlocking the rest of the map”
lemme guess, the location will be unlocked by nolife streamers and we'll have to thank them on twitter and twitch. Sick of this BS
im surprised they were able to allocate resources for this showcase and not overdeliver
Lmfao
The marketing team's job is to overpromise, so that they can get your money before the dev team underdelivers
I'm surprised they have resources for anything with the amount of pronouns they have to keep track of.
@@ashb7Case in point, the Darkness’ ultimate asset to fight back against us is a bunch of Rhulk clones.
If you don't like it, then why are you here?
I hope the fireteam finder also has tags for learning differences. As someone with a learning difference myself, this would make it easier to find people who understand my condition and thought process.
Thats a really great point. Not sure how you'd quantify it in game - ie you could have a sherpa score, but what gives you sherpa points? maybe base it on number of clears compared to the number of clears other fireteam members have, but then you could have people that get carried and only ever do ad clear with tons of clears, and players who have only done it once or twice but have watched guides, read strategies and learned the mechanics. Not sure how you would do it, but if they did something like that then the reqard could be a boost to your chances of getting the raid exotic, or better stats on drops
Poor Rhulk looking like he’s Warden Eternal
Lol
When they say we'll be exploring "only a fraction" of The Traveler, that worries me, as Destiny 2 world sizes are already only a fraction of those compared to any other RPG, including Destiny 1. Bungie as always working their PR team hard to outdo The Sims 4 when it comes to marketing tiny-ass locales as warranting full-priced DLCs.
To be fair, the Traveler is HUGE. Like, “You could fit every destination space we’ve ever had inside it and have room for more” HUGE. If they were gonna let you explore the entire thing literally, they may as well make an entire game inside it.
They said it’s a linear destination so it’s not really open world is what I’m getting? Also looks like a whole location made from reused assets which is great 👍
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I think they were going for for like a “tube” or “Timeline” of sorts… You start at the D1 tower where the Saga begins, and at the other end there’s The Witness’s citadel.
@@domi7411If you watch the full presentation, they explicitly said it's only a linear destination until you complete the campaign, at which point it becomes a normal destination. I'm not saying this to be an ass btw, just wanted to clarify.
@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire They've had 10 years to make an entire game. But instead they yeeted half of it out the window, and sold off the other small maps as individual DLCs, just like The Sims 4. Bc why make a full game when you can just rip players off for more money?
Hopefully Crotas End plays more challenging this reprisal.
i mean it was a hard raid, it just had a ton of cheese methods
Mechanics have definitely changed so it is probably gonna be more challenging. Like look at death singer, she looks like an actual boss now
if it doesn't we still have the aged of triumph armor.
crotas raid is easier and faster than dungeons
@@xSP33DYx408that second room after the maze was such a waste
Even though I'm not happy with how Bungie has handled the last year of Destiny, I can't bring myself to give up the decade that I've given to this game. I pray Final Shape is good and closes this saga in an epic way.
Sunk cost fallacy!
Played D1 and early D2. Forsaken was fantastic, after that it was downhill fast. Ive been back several times, but the game has no retention power at all. Atleast if you're not a casual...
I played destiny 2 first when the game launched, bought it a month later for the campaign, and since i didn't had the expansions i left the game. Came back in forsaken and did the same thing, came back in Beyond Light and I've been playing it since. Even though I've been on and off on this game and while it may have its bad moments like any other video game, its still a part of my teenage years. I was 15 when this came out, and now I'll be 21 this October, i hope this goes out with a bang.
@@Cassp0nk it's my money, so no need for you to worry yourself about it. If it makes you feel any better, I don't buy Eververse items.
ok
So, this is what I took from this showcase:
1) All the light subclass will have new variants to them, but if they are for F2P or for players who buy the Final Shape, like Bungie did on Forsaken, Beyond Light, and Lightfall, is TBA.
2) Cayde is back, but most likely as the destination vender; he will not return to the Tower.
3) We're getting to replay missions through out D2 that is "important", but only on the current destinations in the game because Bungie can't just bring back old content (Red War, Curse of Osiris, Warmind, and Forsaken) with replayability for it falls under the "Over Delivery" umbrella.
4) A rework on Guided Games with many tags, but no tags like " Have No Mic", "Hunters Only", "Stasis Only", etc.
5) Replacing Seasons with Episodes, but it will cost the same as a season, will have season themed loot, and will be vaulted like a season.
6) Bring back Exotic missions that Bungie made, but not Whisper of the Worm or Outbreak Perfected, and they will be craftable and better then the ones you earned.
7) The Collector's edition is a model of the better Tower, not that inferior one, and it will cost at least three digits.
Over delivery is such bs considering they are heavily under delivering
@@joshuahicks8511Ong
@@joshuahicks8511preach
They already said the whisper mission and zero hour are being added to the rotater in the near future
It’s a shame we are likely only getting one sub class per class tho.
Lightfall was the only expansion in my entire Destiny journey that I didn't pre-order (and haven't bought to date) and that's a good thing, because after all the reviews and information that came out and everything I saw and followed (which was a lot) I would be very sad and upset right now. The Final Shape will be the second Destiny expansion that I won't pre-order. It's an important expansion, it's the last one, but that can't be the only reason for a purchase. I'm not going to let myself be beaten by FOMO. Unfortunately, I'm going to wait for reviews and information from trusted content creators who I know love Destiny more than anything. I sincerely hope that this will be the best season yet of Destiny and that it will bring me back to a game that I gave up with great sadness and dedicated many years of my life to.
You’re actually listening to reviews given by a fanbase that hates the game anyway.💀
Totally agree. Pre ordering makes companies lazy as they don’t need to reply on good reviews. They have to do better on release
preach. i tapped out a long time ago, waiting for the story to be finished before i touched Destiny again. If this last expansion isnt good i wont ever come back to any Bungie project.
The soundtrack better be the best thing I have ever heard
Fantastic news about the new fireteam finder! Looking forward to coming back!
Ok, so I've watched the entire showcase. You want past or present players to come back. Open every bit of content D1 and D2 in the aspect of The Final Shape. You're ending a legacy between D1 and D2, light and dark saga. Open everything from Destiny and Destiny 2 core content and DLC. Think of it as the "Master Guardian Edition".
After the last 3 years, my faith in bungie’s storytelling, production value and lore consistency is pretty low but I won’t lie when I say the final shape is looking great so far.
I just really really hope it delivers.
Witch Queen was crazy good you're on drugs qt
Same here even if bringing Cayde back is jumping the shark
@@dtps_champion6016eh, when you don’t think to deep on the story.
@@dtps_champion6016witch queen was pretty mediocre compared to Forsaken and Taken King. You can see the lower production value in its cutscenes and content. The throne world feels empty and sort of unfinished compared to the Tangled Shore, Oryx’s ship and Dreaming City
Losing activision’s support was a double edged sword
Ooooooh…
1:17:28 yes the beauty, please be adding the upgrade module thing for power back, for those old expansions’ items.
Upgrade modules? Aren’t those still in the game?
Y'all, just please remember that this time last year we were getting so hyped up about lightfall. What we're seeing and hearing is marketing dressed in the idea of a game. It could be fully representative of the actual game, or it could absolutely not... We have no way of knowing.
Me personally? I'm checked out. Never thought I'd leave destiny but lightfall burned me too hard. I stuck around till Deep but started to realize that, nope, I really actually just can't trust destiny to deliver what I'm wanting, what it claims to be selling.
Showcases from a corporation like Bungie should be assumed to be pure marketing and treated with skepticism. Buy and play the last shape! If you love the game, you don't have to leave it like I did. Just wait to see if it's what you were promised. Don't pre-order.
I feel exactly this way. I WANT to be excited, but I can't trust Bungie anymore. I booted up after 3 months or so, and just felt gross. The game just feels like a shell of what it once was.
Yes! Gross is the right word for the feeling I get too. And refreshing is the word for what it feels like to now have time for other games that also have a higher time-investment but without Bungie's... issues.
Hunters getting a Minato super wasn’t on the bingo card.
I’ve preordered every single expansion since Rise of Iron; I’m not so sure I can see myself preordering this. What they have shown has felt more than underwhelming for what’s supposed to be the final chapter of a 10 year saga. I admit, I had my expectations too high expecting something forsaken level or higher. How many times are they going to reskin or just completely copy and paste things from destiny 1? And was it too much to ask for a final darkness subclass? I saw the light supers and was immediately disappointed but I still kept my hopes up. Maybe it would be like forsaken where every subclass in the game got a whole new path with different abilities and new supers? Nope. We got 1 new super and 1 new aspect for 3 subclasses (And 1 super was copy and pasted from Destiny 1). Wow. Even after that I kept my head up. I’m honestly not so convinced about the new location either. And what happened with the exotics? I really hope that there’s much more weapons than what they showed. Half of what they showed were old exotics from destiny 1. And seriously? We don’t get a new enemy race. I could understand giving us 2 enemies but only 1?? I’m sorry I don’t understand game design in the slightest and I can recognize that; but where’s all this money going? Bungie has made more than they ever have and they have so much more staff than ever before. Why do the expansions feel smaller and smaller? What is going on??
As a whole, something just felt off and different about this showcase. In the past, Bungie never failed to make their trailers and showcases feel very hype. But now, I really only feel disappointed.
Couldn't put it any better 👍🏻
Wait after a month or two
Don't think of the game as a Witcher 3 or Skyrim, and you get less dissapointed (not comparing the games, just throwing examples)
I've had a certain mindset with this game for years. I don't expect god tier stuff from Bungie. I'll appreciate that we get at least something, but I won't praise Bungie for it unless they earn it.
"What if golden gun was a sniper rifle" Just whisper of the worm pre nerf
I'll be on Rubicon fighting robots. Have fun
Hell yeah Raven
Ima be on both
@@jerrbear5958 or just one if you had common sense
Bro, something like a 12 player campaign to really make this feel like a finale and a gigantic war would be completely incredible
Or make npcs of the main characters that actually do things, that could make it feel like a big war as well
It would be kinda cool if the entire Campaign was technically a patrol zone on the back end, so you would see other guardians completing the story alongside you.
We dont want another gaul type story.
@@darkrain491
I just need Crotas End raid to come back and hopefully it can be a little harder because it is easy.
Hunters are using The Flying Thunder God Technique, i might play as a hunter during this expansion lol that was sick.
Joe started with a mustache and ended with a clean shave 😂
Very excited for the final shape. I am hoping that the story in the campaign and the raid will provide closure and lead to new beginnings.
Can't wait to see what's looming in the horizon and hopefully the universe will be as big and expansive as Star Wars.
I've always been hyped after every showcase so far but this time I'm.... I don't know. I'm not disappointed, I'm not mad, I'm not happy, I don't look forward to it, I just feel .... Nothing. No emotions really. Think my time is over for Destiny. Or at least I'm gonna have a really really really long pause.
Never has a showcase left me so cold
Cool touch grass and take a break from the game. What did you want?
That was me a year ago with lightfall
I can personally recommend Venlafaxine as a great anti-depressant
@@zeroghost115 Why touching grass ? As I already mentioned, the showcase just did not touch me in any way. Neither good or bad. What I wanted ? I haven't had any hopes or something special in mind. I just wanted to see what they gonna show us. Maybe after over 3000 hours I'm just burned out for good. I can't say what's different this time around, why they could hype me up the years before but not this time
@@averytameburrito3101same
No Luster Element or Shadow darkness enemy race. YIKES.
I just noticed how we both have normal hive and lucent hive my biggest question is how many enemy types are there going to be
Anyone know the instrumental from 1:04:51-1:05:20???
I'm not the most hardcore Destiny player, but definitely an all time fave and I can't wait to experience The Final Shape and the conclusion to this really long journey. Hope they land it well!
The warlock super is so tame compared to titan and hunter. They get an axe and knife respectively while we get..... fireworks?
Right? Its always some big gigantic blast.....i wanna weild something too! Lol
@@FrostlikeReign Yeah, it would be nice to wield the sword from the well of radiance super. The design team are definitely titan and hunter mains lol
Theres another super not the reworks, obviously
We get bird Grenade. That’s all we need.
clearly you haven’t played D1
Lot's and lots of new weapons... Also did I forget to mention if we've gotten any more inventory space in our Vault? Cuz that has been a real hassle
Your the first to mention vault space in ages.
I have too much vault space.
urs
Really? Yeah no mines full @@ashleylpugh27790
*The Destiny 2 Showcase 2023 was everything I hoped it would be and more! Can't wait for the new content!*
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@@MumboJumboZXC not really, I'm just a fan. It's 3 letters as well but not the same. The animation and characters on this are so detailed I had to comment 😊
Shill
So the only thing we didnt know was the 3 new supers...... damn we knew all the other stuff
No we didn't lmao
No lmao we knew barely anything in this showcase
people in these replies don't keep up with leaks
@@dave7474 can you really blame them for not being interested in the game of a random lil incompetent indie studio tho?
@@dave7474some of us don’t like leaks kid. Cope
2:57:40 probably a leak of next subclass?
yall see the comments. It's good for the game because they are finally seeing that the people aren't happy with the state of the development. They have something to prove because it's that same "make or break" moment from Taken King release and Forsaken release. People seem to still not get this that it repeats in cycles.
Yeah I see the comments are a bunch of entitled children crying. People bitched at bungie that they wanted more content. Then when they got rushed content, they complain it isn't as good.
@@zeroghost115 what do you win for shiling for a company that explicitly said, in a public presentation, that they do the minimal effort and rip their customers off intentionally? and that they actually tell their team to not work more than the minimal even when they have the free time to do so?
its part of the reason I am leaving the game. I feel so done with the cycle instead of them actually learning from the past.
@@zeroghost115They didn't update the engine.
@@SimplyNexyWhere did they do that? I believe you I just wanna see it for myself 😂
Please don't mess it up like Lightfall
They probably will
100% they will somehow
You're adorable
@@quemeveswey5123lightfall was amazing
Light fall was awesome!!!
Bro, the stakes have always, "never been higher". They even recycled the script from last years showcase.
That has been the theme since the season of arrivals, they have no other ways to make the story interesting it seems. But hey, why the hell were we expecting this lil indie studio to make sth good in the first place?
bungie continues to fail to realize that time-gating content is the perfect formula to mak their players hate the game
that trailer was great as always and the changes are sick, I hope Final Shape lives up to the hype
ok
... I'm not sure how I feel about The Witness being locked behind a Raid.
I've been unable to do Raids since Warmind, I lack the time to gear up (I have an actual job, I will not make Destiny a second one), the friends to group up (they all fled while Activision was in control), and the skill to complete (I'm becoming an old man, sue me). And before you go 'Just LFG!!!!!1!11!11' I've tried and have been told to F off dozens of times as recently as Deep Stone when I tried to get into the Raid scene. From what's being said here, I'm not going to be able to complete the journey, and if I can't, why bother at this point?
I want desperately to finish, but I keep getting left behind. The end here is going to be locked behind something I cannot do and it's looking like Marathon is going to have a skill basement higher than I can probably muster as my carpel tunnel is getting worse so I'm not even going to try there, I might just have to be done with Bungie at this point.
Take this with a massive grain of salt, it’s been leaked that after the raid is completed plays can load into a 12 man mission finale so you might not actually need to do the raid.
skill issue
big skill issue
They said in the post show that you'll get a satisfactory conclusion to the story. But I personally feel THE most satisfying ending should be achieved in the raid
I'm from the future and the main comment was 10% correct
Does anyone think that they will sell a Destiny: The Light & Dark Saga with all the storyline content (base, expansions, seasons, and peisodes) ever???
would be an ungodly proce
This axe super makes me think that either Well of Radiance or Dawnblade needs to do something similar. Leaving the sword behind for others, or the caster, to use.
Tbh with Solar 3.0 I just really wanted a Sword Melee for Warlocks, but also using the sword from others might be a neat idea too
@MasterSkye I actually like that though. How funny would that be.
Praying that the story beads are good I feel bad for yall ftp
All I’m hoping is that fynch will become cayde’s new ghost because Sundance is gone
Still no techwitch shell from season of defiance wartable @Bungie any fixes for that?
Destiny always has been a very unique and fun game experience. Say what you want but there is plenty of activities to play with friends, and a lot of replay ability.
It's the same activities for 10years and it's LINEAR. you can't deviate from the path they want you to take. WE all know strikes are a joke in this game and Raid Quality has gone downhill.
What are you talking about dude.
replayability is about variety.
Activities in this game are sparse and static, they don't change or have RNG tied to them.
Its a stagnant pool of grind.
Im so happy that they confirmed that the Witness is the raid boss, I have no clue how they would have ended it otherwise
Eyes up, Guardian.
I didn’t wanna watch till I caught up on story stuff. Looking great and I can’t wait!!
It looks amazing but I am missing the music that usually goes along with these reveals. “Cruel World” and “Used to the Darkness” became part of my playlist and I am missing a new song
The music trailers usually comes after the Showcase, like in the game awards etc. I’m sure we’ll get other absolute bangers in the months.
@@davida1229 Thank heavens for the only Bungie team that ALWAYS overdelivers, the music team.
@@ashb7 the music team is just on another level. Salvatori and his disciples are gods lmao
@@ashb7they always hit the sky ♥️♥️♥️
44:50 is where the actual stuff starts
G.O.A.T.
Please, Bungie, Do NOT kill Eris :(
She became hive... Its now a matter of time untill she will turn into a sweet sweet sword or a gun.😂 She looks cool tho
Read the lore book The Dark Future. I'm hoping this is what's gonna start up in the Heresay Episode
Eris is lowkey the best character in Destiny, it'll be criminal if they kill her off instead of doing something super interesting with her.
Besides, Morla has an incredible voice for narration/exposition, they're shooting themselves in the foot if they make it so that she can't narrate any future trailers lol.
@@ashb7 Doing something interesting with her isnt profitable. Also, they dont care about destiny anymore. Everything's towards Marathon now.
@@anthonysweeney5364I’m thinking partly the same. I don’t Xivu is gonna die anytime soon and the episode will deal with her and Eris again after the defeat of the witness what ever else may happen.
My question is, if I miss the act 1 of episode echo, like if I have a trip to go and gonna miss like few week or so of the 6 week, is it possible to go back and do it when act 2 come out?
They said they're all going to be able to be done in any order, so I would bet they're all going to be available year round.
Well, once they come out that is.
New supers for Hunter and Titan look fun. New warlock super... IS JUST OLD RADIANCE. F-cking shafted smh
People have been asking for it for years. If they go back and play D1 it is not. that great because our guardians have been power crept so hard over what they were back then. It's another sad nostalgia play and honestly most of the people asking for it are casuals that want self revive back. Just shows that they never knew the true power of that super was not using that node.
1:05:08 very important. key word being guardians. Lore card in 2015... Season of the lost opening cutscene...
"Who is Savathun you ask? You already know, O' guardian mine..."
1:05:35 funny seeing this again with no prismatic.
Honestly, as a returning player, I've missed so many "Campaigns". I want to go back and play those Story lines BEFORE i jump into the new content etc. Is that Finally actually gonna happen? I mean as of my Time Marker at 2hrs its kinda the gist I'm getting... always disliked how older story lines disappeared when a new Expansion dropped. Technically, I paid for that content... I wanna play it whenever I please Solo or with friends.....
They added a thing called reflections where you can go play some older stuff.
Yea, the key word there is "Some". If i paid for all the previous content, i want to play all the previous content. Especially if I pay $80 Plus per Expansion. I get it though. but still being able to play "Some" of the content that I paid for is kind frustrating. I want everything i paid for, Missions, Cut Scenes etc. @@cerebralassassin2185
I want all of content we lost
At the very least, it's good no more expansion sunsetting so that wont happen
This is the Revelations map of Destiny
Why would they give us more light subclasses 😭😭
Before I embark on a 4 hour youtube video. I was a die hard Destiny 1 player. Should I look forward to this next adventure?
Be cautious. Played it for around 6 Years and it's never been this awful.
It depends; what's your standards? If it's on price, then no. If it's on being a completionist, then yes.
Remember guardians.. don't pre-order
Say that to my friend who saw the axe and wanted to pre-order just cause of it.
@@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060oof. I’m sure he’s a perfectly ok person but he is one of the reasons why games are so half baked nowadays
Here we are about a week after this dlc should’ve dropped. Excited to see what you got in store bungie with this extra time for this expansion
Pov you're here to compare the final shape reveals to see what bungie cooked up during the delay
Spot on 😂
1:09:08 I’m thinking a horde like mode.
Edit: please don’t be locked behind a pay wall, or a lightfall pay wall of which requires it to be bought, just like season 21 SoTD.
You havent been playing long huh?
@@tooblackfordeathI misread your reply, my bad, but I’m a returning player I returned 2 weeks before season 22’s release and the showcase.
Remember when bungo said they won't bring back cayde because they wanted to teach a lesson?
pepperinge farms remembers.
This soundtrack is gonna go so hard.
1:02:35 "OH HECK YEAH, EXPLOSIONS MOTHERF---ER, WOOOWEEE!!!!" (Mister Torgue approves.)
I'm just hoping that the Arc Blade for Hunters becomes a roaming Super since it wouldn't make any sense for it to just be that close and get shot in the face if it does ever get a Nerf in the future. From what I can see it is suppose to closen the gaps between you and the combatants around you, but it will add up to the Super's ability if it were a mix-hybrid of both "Golden Gun : Deadshot" and "Nightstalker : Spectral Blades" that gets limited time to use and free roam in third person. It would make more sense that way ideally, but we'll see I guess if it retains the D1 Bladedancer.
DONT PREORDER THIS EARLY, DONT GIVE THEM YOUR MONEY 6 MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME. IF YOURE GONNA PREORDER IT, DO IT A COUPLE WEEKS BEFORE LAUNCH.
Look for my comment and post to the world
Kinda weird to tell people what to do with their money, don’t you think? 😅
@@KiayloI don’t think it is.
Ima pre order out of spite just cuz you think your words matter 😂
@@Kiaylo redditor 🤢
Zavala, come in...
Hits the feels.
No rise of iron screen time is crazy 🤣
Watching this after the reveals of into the light.
Wonder if red death will return sooner then expected with into te light.
they said there will be the third subclass of darkness?
Strand was announced a few weeks before lightfall.
@@mackncheese1683that’s not true it was announced with lightfall
Nope, they never said it, there will be some updates to light subclasses. We’ll get the new one next year probably.
@@mackncheese1683it was leaked sure but no. It was announced in the showcase in the trailer.
1:36:06 anyone got the name of the song here?
I want to make something very clear: The Witness is about to face a horde of Guardians, some who are former spartans, space marines, operators, etc. The Witness isn’t ready, cause we are all very dangerous.
I shall destroy the witness🤝
we are vicious
This is cringe
@@angster4267 and that is based.
1:05:48 vex portal in the background?
BROOOOOO I'M SO EXCITED FOR THE 30TH TIME!!!!! CAN'T WAIT TO BE BOMBARDED WITH THE SAME RECYCLED CONTENT AND BULLSHIT EXCUSES!!
@ 1:03:00 bro said 'we've got a lot of cool new stuff coming over the next FEW YEARS'
and what comes after the final Scam and the Episodes?
At 59:30, close caption has a spelling error - it should be "start whaling on enemies" not "wailing".
I’m seeing that the campaign is kinda like zombies revelations from black ops 3 lets combine all our old maps into one for the final
"at the end it'll cash out and you get a whole mess of rewards" - 2 legendaries and an engram surely!
2 tokens and a blue
If I hear paracausal one more time
I remember them saying something about the Lightfall discount, how long is this discount is supposed to be?
If you never buy that travesty, it's a 100% discount that lasts forever 😀
(On Steam the discount is till September 5, I'm assuming it's the same on other platforms)
@@ashb7 Not for me, for a friend and he was just interested in the standard edition
I get the vibe that the Witness Raid will be a fully automated, match-made portion of the campaign's ending, where EVERYONE will do it.
No, they said you don’t have to do the raid in order to reach the true end of the story. They are separate
this whole expansion already got leaked. lmao go look it up
@@ethan_garrell46807 hmm I dunno... I feel like they danced around the details of that intentionally as they don't want to spoil the surprise. Will have to wait and see, but I feel like there's a twist!
Man, I missed, like, 80% of this game.
Joe Blackburn
Re / Tard
"I am one of you, do not cancel me!"
Since no one wanted to post it showcase starts at 45:00
Do NOT preorder this folks. Wait and see just this once. Remember Lightfall.
I am ready for the final scam
Witch Queen was good tho
@@ShadowFang24 Okay and? House of Wolves, Curse of Osiris, Warmind, Shadowkeep, Beyond Light, and Lightfall were all awful. 3 Bad expansions and 2 good ones in D2 (Forsaken, Witch Queen). Is that really a viable enough track record for you to safely preorder their next expansion? They have more genuinely BAD DLC/expansions than they do good ones.
1:11:34 Kings and creatures
Ok even if the campaign is bad the new destination looks amazing