Could human civilization spread across the whole galaxy? - Roey Tzezana

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    Could human civilization eventually spread across the whole Milky Way galaxy? Could we move beyond our small, blue planet to establish colonies in the multitude of star systems out there? These questions are pretty daunting, but their (theoretical) answers were actually put forth decades ago. Roey Tzezana describes the conceptual von Neumann machine.
    Lesson by Roey Tzezana, animation by Eoin Duffy.

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  • @MrAntieMatter
    @MrAntieMatter 8 лет назад +959

    Damn, this is very nicely animated.

    • @EoinDuffyAnimation
      @EoinDuffyAnimation 8 лет назад +44

      Cheers :)

    • @MrAntieMatter
      @MrAntieMatter 8 лет назад +4

      :D

    • @sduppleganger
      @sduppleganger 8 лет назад +19

      Eoin is just amazingly talented, and fun to work with :)

    • @rollingthunder8630
      @rollingthunder8630 8 лет назад +11

      Thank you for the work you do! Your contribution to online education is much appreciated.

    • @rushdeuri
      @rushdeuri 8 лет назад +3

      and I kept wondering why aliens don't abduct us...

  • @MarkArandjus
    @MarkArandjus 8 лет назад +572

    A Von Neuman machine gone out of control would be a great video game plot.

    • @frankschneider6156
      @frankschneider6156 8 лет назад +22

      They are called Reaper ... (Mass effect).
      In Saberhagen's Berserer series, von Neumann machines are called "Berserker" and don't like organic life forms

    • @MarkArandjus
      @MarkArandjus 8 лет назад +5

      Reapers aren't really Von Neuman machines gone out of control though, because humans did not create them and while they do replicate by plundering resources they do so in an orchestrated and orderly fashion :)

    • @frankschneider6156
      @frankschneider6156 8 лет назад +15

      Mark Arandjus
      A von Neumann machine doesn't need to be created by humans, just by any race.
      I'm not really sure about the Reapers though (it's been a long time since i played the series), but weren't they also created by an initial race in the beginning, before this whole cycle thing between machines and sentient life started ?

    • @Musicsage
      @Musicsage 8 лет назад +9

      Grey Goo is an RTS based on that scenario

    • @MarkArandjus
      @MarkArandjus 8 лет назад +1

      Musicsage I know of Grey Goo, and yeah that's also self replicating robots, but that's more like the Replicators from Star Gate or The Borg. What I had in mind was a sort of system of machines that expands way too fast and strips planets dry all the while thinking this helps humanity.

  • @Xcallion
    @Xcallion 4 года назад +33

    There is a sci-fi book trilogy called "We are Legion, We are Bob" told from the perspective of a Von Neuman probe as it goes about its mission. It's a very good read and I would recommend it to anyone who likes "hard" sci-fi.

  • @GhostShakz
    @GhostShakz 8 лет назад +209

    If this is theoretically possible why not make the machines terraform the planets for human survival instead of just harvesting material? Then we would be able to send hundreds if not thousands of human in stasis over centuries. Then the self-replicating machines can be turned off or destroyed once a planet has become fully terraformed. This seems like a much better way to spread human civilisation.

    • @doodelay
      @doodelay 8 лет назад +44

      Now you're thinking.
      You should design some Von Neumann Machines to accomplish that goal. Just make sure they aren't programmed to terraform living worlds, only dead ones.

    • @Sakisaka_Rei
      @Sakisaka_Rei 8 лет назад +13

      Its better to upload our mind to galactic wide quantum entanglement networks. We don't really eat or drink and the Von Neumann machines can partially be servers.

    • @GhostShakz
      @GhostShakz 8 лет назад +21

      I don't like any of these digital posthuman ideas. There's no point to spreading civilisation if we lose our humanity

    • @doodelay
      @doodelay 8 лет назад +8

      I agree, but most of these ideas are impractical anyway. For instance, there's many reasons to think that "uploading our minds" wouldn't work. I am a fan of biological enhancement though. It'd be great

    • @Sakisaka_Rei
      @Sakisaka_Rei 8 лет назад +20

      Humanity is overrated. The only special thing about us is our awareness. If machines can be made aware then what's the point of organic life.

  • @whatthefunction9140
    @whatthefunction9140 8 лет назад +739

    maybe dna is a von Neumann machine. [mind blown]

    • @3uujh656
      @3uujh656 8 лет назад +42

      The Functions are Quite similar...

    • @mkb6418
      @mkb6418 8 лет назад +28

      That's exactly what he said in the end.

    • @whatthefunction9140
      @whatthefunction9140 8 лет назад +4

      I didn't hear that. at what timestamp?

    • @mkb6418
      @mkb6418 8 лет назад +13

      "Maybe they are already there"

    • @whatthefunction9140
      @whatthefunction9140 8 лет назад +42

      I dont think he was implying that earthlings are Von Neumann machines...

  • @Fearofthemonster
    @Fearofthemonster 6 лет назад +69

    This sounds like something that nobody should invent.

  • @47chromeAKs
    @47chromeAKs 8 лет назад +525

    Put a free U2 album on those machines. See how fast aliens come to destroy us

    • @CharlesTheClumsy
      @CharlesTheClumsy 8 лет назад +10

      That's a clever one!

    • @ajr1351
      @ajr1351 8 лет назад +7

      47chromeAKs Good one. 😂

    • @kattenelvis1778
      @kattenelvis1778 8 лет назад +8

      What's wrong with U2?

    • @CharlesTheClumsy
      @CharlesTheClumsy 8 лет назад +28

      katten elvis Nothing is wrong with U2. It's just that Apple forced their users to download U2:s new album.

    • @kattenelvis1778
      @kattenelvis1778 8 лет назад +4

      Charlie Clumsy
      ohhhh

  • @alberteinsteinthejew
    @alberteinsteinthejew 8 лет назад +172

    Wait a fucking minute! Wouldn't it make us the bad guy like in Independence Day?

    • @kianheus2487
      @kianheus2487 8 лет назад +107

      Michael McNamara Did you ever think we were the good guys?

    • @tylerorr3851
      @tylerorr3851 8 лет назад +15

      Did you ever think that life isn't about right or wrong, but shades of grey?

    • @johnnycalvino7490
      @johnnycalvino7490 8 лет назад +15

      Life is about fifty shades of grey.

    • @akes9793
      @akes9793 8 лет назад +26

      this comment section went so many ways.

    • @manictiger
      @manictiger 8 лет назад +6

      RELEASSSSEEE MEEEEE!

  • @Merthalophor
    @Merthalophor 8 лет назад +24

    Desperately trying to focus on the voice but _the animation is just so amazing_
    For real, props for that, whoever did this

    • @TheGodlike300
      @TheGodlike300 8 лет назад

      i thought the same thing it's really cool.. The name of the guy is in the description btw :)

  • @carlospinzoncampillo1264
    @carlospinzoncampillo1264 8 лет назад +324

    yeah thats probably the most horrible, cruel and efficient mass destruction weapon in the entire univers

    • @3uujh656
      @3uujh656 8 лет назад +5

      Good point

    • @babelKONI
      @babelKONI 8 лет назад +8

      Bit like us...

    • @maxvalentijn8991
      @maxvalentijn8991 8 лет назад +3

      Exactly

    • @hariharanb785
      @hariharanb785 8 лет назад +16

      More like a virus.

    • @carlospinzoncampillo1264
      @carlospinzoncampillo1264 8 лет назад +1

      its not only for humans, another (theorical) civilization could build it. imagine getting destroyed by thousands of these machines along with your planet. its a bomb that keeps rebuilding itself each time bigger

  • @folkloren1574
    @folkloren1574 7 лет назад +85

    It's pronounced "Von *Noy*mann". It's German, and the 'eu' makes an 'oi' sound. Like Reuters or Freud.

    • @jaydani1996
      @jaydani1996 4 года назад +2

      Nobody cares!

    • @monochromeart7311
      @monochromeart7311 4 года назад +21

      @@jaydani1996 there are those who do care

    • @ceejayl371
      @ceejayl371 4 года назад +14

      @@jaydani1996 I care.

    • @iskandar6799
      @iskandar6799 4 года назад +5

      @@jaydani1996 If likes are to be considered, 40 people appreciate folkloren while none appreciate you.

    • @TheLocoUnion
      @TheLocoUnion 4 года назад +2

      I care.... i mentioned it before I saw this statement!!!

  • @justine_chang39
    @justine_chang39 8 лет назад +617

    what if WE were the machines sent to earth to populate it and expand further

    • @nasser314
      @nasser314 8 лет назад +74

      We can be a huge Reality Show for aliens !

    • @justine_chang39
      @justine_chang39 8 лет назад +39

      Baashaal Baashaal the alien that created us could be idiots too

    • @DerkNeit
      @DerkNeit 8 лет назад +2

      My comment has the same theory but A LOT more explanation. If you'd like to find and read it...Posted it before this one too...

    • @sandeshjadhav8804
      @sandeshjadhav8804 8 лет назад +6

      The Truman show

    • @Michael-xm4ux
      @Michael-xm4ux 8 лет назад +6

      the ancient alien guy on history channel once mentioned the same idea. that even if aliens find out where we are. they wouldn't eradicate us with godlike technology. because all life forms in the universe have the same origin and the same purpose-to spread across the universe.

  • @moustafamohsen
    @moustafamohsen 7 лет назад +40

    man this music is amazing !

  • @ellaa_nashwara
    @ellaa_nashwara 8 лет назад +6

    Oh my God ! Such great animation, beautiful transitions & visuals!! This is by far the best animated video on internet I've ever watched. Very, very well done.

  • @pooyataleb2514
    @pooyataleb2514 8 лет назад +15

    the animation is incredible
    thank you Eoin Duffy

  • @darkqueen9134
    @darkqueen9134 8 лет назад +19

    The background music is really good!

  • @jiminspinkie4788
    @jiminspinkie4788 8 лет назад +78

    I hope humanity gets the chance to visit other stars
    Edit: I meant other solar systems

    • @Sul227
      @Sul227 8 лет назад +27

      It won't, since stars are thousands of degrees hot.

    • @The1995Malakas
      @The1995Malakas 8 лет назад

      Stars, planets, galaxies, make a pick. We can't get anywhere near stars, lol.

    • @Michael-xm4ux
      @Michael-xm4ux 8 лет назад

      technically other planets. if you get onto a star. you get burnt to death

    • @rollingthunder8630
      @rollingthunder8630 8 лет назад

      Some stars are cold enough you can touch them.

    • @vrajpatel7348
      @vrajpatel7348 7 лет назад +1

      many stars have planets orbiting them, making them a solar system. there was practically no point in editing the comment.

  • @Dr0iRedX
    @Dr0iRedX 8 лет назад +8

    Simply most beautifully animated TED video. Eoin you're amazing 😃

  • @leonard1871
    @leonard1871 4 года назад +4

    I couldn't watch this any longer without giving the animators the props they deserve, the animations are beautiful, the narrator is killing it too.

  • @AzKam84
    @AzKam84 8 лет назад +81

    I feel sorry for the first aliens we discover. It's only a matter of time before we screw up their planet.

    • @WillWilsonII
      @WillWilsonII 8 лет назад +29

      Humans will ghettoize the universe

    • @badresolutionmanwithherpes5408
      @badresolutionmanwithherpes5408 8 лет назад +5

      Assuming they are less advanced than us, if not, the sorriness can be dedicated to us and the rapeful annihilation they would give us for fucking around in their planet :v

    • @tylerorr3851
      @tylerorr3851 8 лет назад +1

      +akenterprises That's so pessimistic, I love it.

    • @OutSideTheBoxFormat
      @OutSideTheBoxFormat 8 лет назад +2

      with the number of planets in our galaxy alone, its doubtful we would have to share a planet with another intelligent life form . thats why movies made about us being invaded and taken over are bullshit. its just proof that the human ego only blinds us.

    • @stevejobs8028
      @stevejobs8028 8 лет назад

      I know right I really dislike this anti human sentiment. There are infinitely more planets than humans. We are much rarer. If aliens found us they would most probably study us. Not just nuke us to steal sh*t. Give me strength God.

  • @Chrisallengallery
    @Chrisallengallery 8 лет назад +360

    Seams like a space virus to me. I'm not going to be held responsible for that, uh uh.

    • @DJjetseb
      @DJjetseb 8 лет назад +3

      since the nazie era, your inaction is enough to condemn and judge you unless you have means to get the judge hypocrisy going your way.

    • @Leon-le9cn
      @Leon-le9cn 8 лет назад

      Just AGuy
      Uhh...that's just not the case since the nazi era, but even earlier and has nothing to do with hypocrisy.
      You know, when you see a dying man out on the street, your duty as a citizen is to help this guy out by calling the ambulance.
      In this case, i don't think that any Alien cares about human history L0l

    • @DJjetseb
      @DJjetseb 8 лет назад

      Leon so you already knew it then.

    • @FurryEskimo
      @FurryEskimo 6 лет назад

      It's more about spreading life. The probe is a carrier.
      This video is just trying to explain the basics, so it sounds more sinister than it is.
      The reality is Earth's time is limited, and even if we have millions of years left, we should plan ahead for the worst.
      If we can put life on another planet, and make sure that those robots continue to try doing this, then life can spread. The new life forms may not have the ability to make another probe, so it's important that the probes we make be able to do this, otherwise life could end with the planets we seed with life.
      (Obviously still dangerous)

    • @Ninja-Hayate
      @Ninja-Hayate 6 лет назад

      Humans are viruses themselves. If they launch viruses into space, the universe is doomed! Humans never learn from history, and keeps repeating it. The Aztecs, Incans, and the Mayans learned it the hard way.

  • @Raul1528
    @Raul1528 8 лет назад +3

    This video is so aesthetic.
    Animations are beautiful.
    Keep up the good work Eoin Duffy!

  • @supersatangod4460
    @supersatangod4460 8 лет назад +66

    So, a Von Neumann machine is basically a continuous weapon of mass destruction on a galactic scale. Got it.

  • @d3r4g45
    @d3r4g45 8 лет назад +39

    Biological life is probably the von Neumann machine.

  • @SWATDRUMMUH
    @SWATDRUMMUH 8 лет назад +85

    We could if we get our heads out of politics' ass.

    • @happydays6777
      @happydays6777 8 лет назад +3

      edgy

    • @LiZettE8
      @LiZettE8 8 лет назад +14

      edgy

    • @UnpredictableSB
      @UnpredictableSB 8 лет назад +3

      We could if more people decided to become a physics major like I have.

    • @frankschneider6156
      @frankschneider6156 8 лет назад

      Not going to helps. It's less of technological / physical issue, but more of a funding problem.

    • @menashemataev2734
      @menashemataev2734 8 лет назад +3

      It actually is. This way more talented, smart people will become physicians. And the more we got of those,the higher are the chances of finding new discoveries and stuff that will help with making the human civilization a galactic empire. Or at least use our solar system.

  • @WeeWeeJumbo
    @WeeWeeJumbo 8 лет назад +46

    What's a von Neumann machine? It's a Slylandro Probe.
    *WE COME IN PEACE*
    *ENERGIZE*

    • @kuronosan
      @kuronosan 8 лет назад

      +

    • @skanderbruh6827
      @skanderbruh6827 7 лет назад

      WeeWeeJumbo **PRIORITY OVERDRIVE, NEW BEHAVIOR DICTATED, MUST BREAK TARGET INTO COMPONENT INTO COMPONENT MATERIALS**

  • @user-hh2is9kg9j
    @user-hh2is9kg9j 8 лет назад +11

    it saddens me that its very possible that human civilization collapses before doing any of that . and it saddens me even greater as a middle eastern that the middle east could be the reason

  • @katcubed
    @katcubed 5 лет назад +1

    Every frame of this video can be used as an aesthetic wallpaper. That’s how good it is.

  • @thomasr.jackson2940
    @thomasr.jackson2940 8 лет назад +30

    Why was Neumann's name pronounced "Newman" in this video? Did he use an idiosyncratic pronunciation?

    • @valentinmitterbauer4196
      @valentinmitterbauer4196 8 лет назад +1

      All i can say is that Herr Neumann was a citizen of former Austria- Hungary, born in Budapest, but he moved to the USA and also dropped his Hungarian name, but also replaced his austrian name "Johann" with "John". He propably changed also the pronounciation of his name, like many germans and austrians who moved to US did.
      So nowadays you would call him "us- american citizen of magyarian ethnicity and former austria-hungarian nationality".
      Oh god, i think i don't like overwhelming-political-correctness...

    • @thomasr.jackson2940
      @thomasr.jackson2940 8 лет назад +5

      RobinsonCrouse24 I don't think this is true in von Neumann's case, though if you have information to the contrary I would be glad to hear it. But in recorded interviews with him I have heard the interviewers use the Hungarian pronunciation.

    • @frankschneider6156
      @frankschneider6156 8 лет назад +1

      +Thomas R. Jackson
      he adapted his name, whereever he was living, so in hungary it was Janosz, during his time in Germany it was Johann, and later in the US it was John. Similar with his last name, with the exception, that he kept the Germanized "von Neumann"-Form in the US. and, no, he wasn't an us- american citizen of magyarian ethnicity, but Martian ;-) (Google it, if you don't get it).

    • @thomasr.jackson2940
      @thomasr.jackson2940 8 лет назад +6

      Frank Schneider adapting first names is pretty common. Those tend to be informal. I answer to Tom. Folks often accept abbreviated names. Last names are changed too, especially by immigrants to the US during the Ellis Island period, or just to hide ethnicity in a culture of discrimination, or to distance one's self from one's past. But in general, folks tend to maintain the more formal last name. Now Americans do butcher names and I have heard people refer to Neumann as "Newman" before, but I have generally assumed it was out of ignorance. I have never seen any evidence that Neumann promoted or encouraged a change in the pronunciation of his last name. I don't know why he would have, as he was a well known academic, with no particular reason to hide his past or ethnicity. And I know that he went by his native pronunciation in at least some public events.
      It just seemed like a strange mistake to make in the video, even disrespectful in his day and age. But perhaps I am mistaken and Neumann took to introducing himself as Newman, and preferred the term. I would like to give the makers of the video he benefit of the doubt. If it was an honest mistake, unfortunate, but lesson learned, and a bird apology due perhaps. Or if I am wrong, I would like to see some evidence to that effect.
      Perhaps another time we can see a video about Euler's Day off.

    • @rollingthunder8630
      @rollingthunder8630 8 лет назад

      It's the same story with all German/Austrian names. Tons of German/Austrian names are always mispronounced, like Bach, Mozart, Freud, etc. It's quite silly getting upset over Neumann.

  • @achappel
    @achappel 8 лет назад

    one of the best motion graphics movies i've seen i a while! great!

  • @carsonblake107
    @carsonblake107 8 лет назад +29

    What if WE are Von Newman machines and don't know it

    • @byAuracle
      @byAuracle 8 лет назад

      trippy stuff

    • @discovermajid
      @discovermajid 6 лет назад +1

      thats what I kept thinking throughout this video. what if we are it? what if a signal will be sent to us shortly to congratulate us and explain our whole purpose - which is to keep going until we make a Von Neumann machine and to put DNA/RNA inside it and shoot it off towards wherever the signal tells us to

    • @mostinho7
      @mostinho7 6 лет назад +4

      So you're basically saying there is a creator, and that we've been placed here for the specific reasons mentioned in the video. This not really that far off from what some religions say. Take this translated verse [2:30] from the Quran for example:
      "when your Lord said to the angels “Lo! I am about to place a vicegerent on earth,” they said: “Will You place on it one who will spread mischief and shed blood while we celebrate Your glory and extol Your holiness?” He said: “Surely I know what you do not know."
      Vicegerent here meaning a person exercising delegated power on behalf of a sovereign or ruler.
      Atheists have no problem delving into possibilities which directly imply that we have a creator, like Richard Dawkins saying he thinks it's possible that aliens seeded life on earth when he was faced with a question about the complexity of DNA.
      This frustrates me because while these ideas are built on mere speculation, Islam/the Quran has the support of many scientific miracles/facts revealed through an illiterate man in the deserts of Arabia 1400 years ago (by Allah) way before modern science was able to discover them.
      In addition to that, to me at least, it's actually much more liberating - the idea of one all-mighty creator and ruler of the entire universe who is neither begets nor is begotten. [27:59]translation: "Is Allah not far better than anything to which men [falsely] ascribe a share in His divinity?".

  • @owen-cu6gr
    @owen-cu6gr 5 лет назад +2

    I ran the numbers on this myself. Let's say that the ship moves at .01% the speed of light. (That's rounding up from the current fastest ship ever built.) Moving at that speed would mean that we're moving at 1/10,000th the speed of light, so for every lightyear travelled, the ship would take 10,000 years. Let's say that the average star is about 5 light years away from its closest neighbor, and there are about 100 billion stars in the Milky Way Galaxy. Let's also say that every time the machine arrives at a star, it makes another copy of itself, and both copies continue travelling. Therefore, every 50,000 years, the number of machines doubles, and once there are 100 billion machines, the galaxy is effectively colonized. It would take 37 cycles to get to 100 billion, so it can be accomplished in under 2 million years.

    • @owen-cu6gr
      @owen-cu6gr 5 лет назад

      Also, let's say that the machines will colonize any habitable planet they find, terraforming it to suit human life, creating a healthy biosphere, and depositing a healthy population of genetically engineered human clones onto it, leaving information and tools to survive behind it. Assuming that for every 100 stars, one has an earth sized planet in the goldilocks zone orbiting an earth-similar star, there will be a billion planets brimming with intelligent human lifeforms by the end of the two million year period.

  • @zagros24
    @zagros24 8 лет назад +17

    We should fix our planet first before dreaming to go anywhere else. Remember the humans in Avatar? I don't want our Species to be remembered like them!

    • @hjoricentifolia6467
      @hjoricentifolia6467 8 лет назад +4

      Spreading across the galaxy is fixing the problem actually
      By gathering resources from outside the Earth, the limits of producing
      necessary supplies (rare minerals, energy, technological advancements,
      etc) would increase and would in turn give aid to more people.
      I would support mining the moon for resources. I also see no problem in building a base in it to do experiments that would otherwise be dangerous on Earth.

    • @ShinyGundamZero
      @ShinyGundamZero 8 лет назад +1

      Hjori, there's two big things that you're not understanding. Colonizing other planets would not solve the issue of resources. Why? Because humans would never stop reproducing. The population will continue to grow, no matter how many people you send elsewhere. This will result in resource deficiency on Earth and on other planets (watch the original Total Recall movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger for a good example). Secondly, colonizing the moon (or worse yet, conducting experiments that are "too dangerous [oh God...] to conduct on Earth") would result in the destruction of our moon, which would end most life on Earth. Watch The Time Machine movie based on H.G. Wells' book for an example of that. It's not so simple as flying to another celestial being and living happily ever after.

    • @OutSideTheBoxFormat
      @OutSideTheBoxFormat 8 лет назад

      the planets not broken, it'll exist until the sun swallows it up before it dies.

    • @zagros24
      @zagros24 8 лет назад +1

      We don't have resources deficiency problem! There are plenty resources on this planet for generations to come!
      I dunno how old are you but I guess you're much younger than me, I like your intelligence and thought. Keep it up, be always curious!

    • @j.jasonwentworth723
      @j.jasonwentworth723 6 лет назад +3

      If we wait for that, then we'll never go anywhere; in fact, human beings would never have spread beyond Africa, if they had had that mindset way back then. The old argument, "We shouldn't do X until problem Y is solved" (going to other worlds before the problems of this world are solved, in this case) also ignores the fact that money from one program is never switched to another.

  • @Polymathqueen
    @Polymathqueen 7 лет назад +1

    now you are just playing my mind.............this is amazing

  • @anthrobowl6903
    @anthrobowl6903 8 лет назад +60

    Reminds me of the Gems from Steven Universe

    • @veeryofernando4520
      @veeryofernando4520 8 лет назад +4

      the gems are the machines, the diamonds send them

    • @njuyr8376
      @njuyr8376 8 лет назад +1

      yeah

    • @FRIEDYOGURT-s4c
      @FRIEDYOGURT-s4c 8 лет назад +3

      ExperienceWildWolfe I hate Steven universe, it's so bullshit

    • @sosensualandfree
      @sosensualandfree 8 лет назад +3

      The Von Neumann machine looks a lot like peridot's diamond line from Steven Universe.

    • @DavidAllen-px7gr
      @DavidAllen-px7gr 6 лет назад +1

      I can't help but feel as though that's what those crystal gems are, and Stephen, himself, is a cyborg of sorts. My guess for what their purpose is is as follows: "1: find an intelligent civilization, 2: gauge its technical prowess, 3: If it's high enough, go back to step 1; if not, then scan their culture, and balance sameness with otherness to seem both friendly and alien, 4: Protect that civilization unless it comes at a fatal cost to another; in the event of a paradox, resolve in a way that both civilizations can walk away from it."
      I might be wrong, but I'm glad that not EVERYONE thinks it's preposterous.

  • @jajosip
    @jajosip 8 лет назад

    Just wanted to say that the animation in the video is gorgeous, carry on...

  • @PetarStamenkovic
    @PetarStamenkovic 8 лет назад +4

    I love how the narrator goes from- clearly there are none, to - maybe they're already here :D

  • @horror7927
    @horror7927 8 лет назад

    I swear I love yall channel its like little snacks for the brain

  • @alnimri
    @alnimri 8 лет назад +35

    The graphics Tho.

  • @utsavratnatuladhar8831
    @utsavratnatuladhar8831 8 лет назад

    Where was this video when I needed it the most!!! Great timing ted-ed great timing!

  • @fobusas
    @fobusas 8 лет назад +10

    Newman? Practically no one pronounces it like that...

    • @mathjazz6930
      @mathjazz6930 8 лет назад +2

      It is clearly "Noy-man."

    • @DavidAllen-px7gr
      @DavidAllen-px7gr 6 лет назад

      This's the first place I've heard the term, how IS it pronounced? I say it Von Noo-man. Is that wrong?

  • @TheCrash1509
    @TheCrash1509 8 лет назад +2

    The animation was just amazing

  • @pingpong1138
    @pingpong1138 8 лет назад +17

    Stargate replicators anyone?

  • @Iiuoypline
    @Iiuoypline 8 лет назад

    Beautifully smooth animation

  • @supertriggerd4959
    @supertriggerd4959 8 лет назад +6

    if we theoretically found a way to cherry pick what planets would be drained of resources, it may be a possible job/career, and we use the resources of let's say five planets to terraform one a quarter way, this would work extremely successfully, in what I can imagine at least.

  • @eyereflected
    @eyereflected 8 лет назад +1

    the animation and colors are very pretty

  • @WillWilsonII
    @WillWilsonII 8 лет назад +43

    MORE human civilization?! There goes the universe! We all know just how great the results are on THIS planet

    • @emmytweetie2177
      @emmytweetie2177 8 лет назад

      yup

    • @MuadDib1402
      @MuadDib1402 8 лет назад

      Spaceballs?

    • @TheDragonfriday
      @TheDragonfriday 8 лет назад +2

      Maybe that's the reason why we don't have any other neighbors in our universe

    • @monsieurali8484
      @monsieurali8484 6 лет назад +1

      WillWilsonII What's the point of protecting the universe if there's not gonna be anyone in it? Sure, the earth would have a better environment if it did away with all of us but what's the point of having a planet with a perfect environment if no one is going to inhabit it?

    • @ecogreen123
      @ecogreen123 6 лет назад

      maybe we will change.... maybe your right and we will destroy/ kill everything we find XD

  • @DilanoSatria
    @DilanoSatria 8 лет назад

    the best graphics from ted ed I've ever seen :D

  • @Enocth
    @Enocth 8 лет назад +4

    It's us, we are the self-replicating machines.

    • @mostinho7
      @mostinho7 6 лет назад +1

      So you're basically saying there is a creator, and that we've been placed here for the specific reasons mentioned in the video. This not really that far off from what some religions say. Take this translated verse [2:30] from the Quran for example:
      "when your Lord said to the angels “Lo! I am about to place a vicegerent on earth,” they said: “Will You place on it one who will spread mischief and shed blood while we celebrate Your glory and extol Your holiness?” He said: “Surely I know what you do not know."
      Vicegerent here meaning a person exercising delegated power on behalf of a sovereign or ruler.
      Atheists have no problem delving into possibilities which directly imply that we have a creator, like Richard Dawkins saying he thinks it's possible that aliens seeded life on earth when he was faced with a question about the complexity of DNA.
      This frustrates me because while these ideas are built on mere speculation, Islam/the Quran has the support of many scientific miracles/facts revealed through an illiterate man in the deserts of Arabia 1400 years ago (by Allah) way before modern science was able to discover them.
      In addition to that, to me at least, it's actually much more liberating - the idea of one all-mighty creator and ruler of the entire universe who is neither begets nor is begotten. [27:59]translation: "Is Allah not far better than anything to which men [falsely] ascribe a share in His divinity?".

  • @MythOfEchelon
    @MythOfEchelon 8 лет назад

    That art and animation is fantastic.

  • @allseriousness
    @allseriousness 8 лет назад +22

    isnt this how the geth got started from mass effect

  • @cemirmak1593
    @cemirmak1593 8 лет назад

    this is my favourite Ted ed vid

  • @zacalrayyis2607
    @zacalrayyis2607 8 лет назад +4

    With self replication comes evolution and unpredictability. We might potentially be creating an entirely new kind of life. They might, instead of finding an intelligent alien civilisation, become one.

    • @TucsonDude
      @TucsonDude 2 года назад

      I wouldn't spend a lot of time worrying about it.

  • @strange_and_magnificent
    @strange_and_magnificent 3 года назад

    This has got to one of the best animation styles ever.

  • @arckocsog253
    @arckocsog253 8 лет назад +5

    I guess you mean Neumann János. He was Hungarian. Btw. the name is of German origin, so it should be pronounced as in German: [naa-y-maan].

  • @Milkra
    @Milkra 8 лет назад

    Amazing animation quality, good work!

  • @ShawnRavenfire
    @ShawnRavenfire 8 лет назад +11

    The real question is, what would be the benefit to us? How would we be better off knowing that millions of light years away, there are machines replicating themselves on planet that we'll never visit? And even if we seed the planets with humanoid clones of ourselves (Raelism?), what would be the profit to the humans still on earth? We wouldn't gain any resources or knowledge or experiences. We wouldn't even be able to spread out to deal with overpopulation, because we'd be creating new populations. What we really need is some kind of faster-than-light travel, like artificial wormholes or something.

    • @Yonkage
      @Yonkage 8 лет назад +5

      You miss the point. There is no "reason" to do this because there is NO PROFIT to be gained. Nothing this current civilization does is done without profit, beyond wasted half-hearted efforts like a few solar panels tossed into the desert in the name of environmentalism, or what NASA has become. You expect massive corporations to come together and spend decades and trillions of dollars of research and development to develop a system of machines that will bring not a dime back to Earth? It will never happen.

    • @wellesradio
      @wellesradio 8 лет назад +3

      Yonkage Then we'll die. End of story. Luckily there are some of us who dream of bigger things than bags of gold.

    • @Yonkage
      @Yonkage 8 лет назад +2

      welles
      Unfortunately, none of those people are in charge of anything beyond their own two hands. And it's extremely unlikely any one person will ever meaningfully impact the world. Even world leaders are largely powerless figureheads.

    • @alexanderg1935
      @alexanderg1935 7 лет назад +1

      Shawn Ravenfire Got to agree with you on that

    • @sk8nbarrow591
      @sk8nbarrow591 6 лет назад

      A 'backup' to our species? LOL :-D

  • @440presents8
    @440presents8 8 лет назад +1

    Wow. This animation is just AMAZING.

  • @leaselmary_sims2189
    @leaselmary_sims2189 7 лет назад +6

    So basically people are thinking about creating army of robots which will rip other planets of their resources and take over the whole universe. Damn. We are the villains in this movie.

  • @JyoPari
    @JyoPari 7 лет назад

    One of my favorite videos.

  • @acegames2much245
    @acegames2much245 8 лет назад +3

    just need one of them to come down and get rid of Trump and HRC

  • @KiliChai
    @KiliChai 7 лет назад +2

    But, but, but, why? I get wanting to spread a human presence throughout the galaxy, but what's the point of populating it with von Neumann machines?

  • @BrianMcInnis87
    @BrianMcInnis87 8 лет назад +6

    Guys, could you please tell your narrator how to pronounce 'Neumann'?

  • @leterneautunes2427
    @leterneautunes2427 8 лет назад

    I love the animation style in this one.

  • @AkashKumar-iq8wg
    @AkashKumar-iq8wg 7 лет назад +4

    teriific animations... dayummm

  • @leonilaping2496
    @leonilaping2496 8 лет назад

    Science fiction writer Robert Charles Wilson wrote a series about something a bit similar to these. The first book is called "Spin". It's pretty good

  • @Catishcat
    @Catishcat 7 лет назад +3

    Nnnnnnnooooope. I don't want these things in my galaxy.

  • @nicordiaz5371
    @nicordiaz5371 8 лет назад

    DUDE THIS IS INSTANTLY MY FAVORITE VIDEO

  • @jojothedodo2734
    @jojothedodo2734 8 лет назад +6

    It will be so funny if those machines went for Earth and take our own resources as well lmao karma

    • @diegosanchez894
      @diegosanchez894 8 лет назад +20

      Professor Farnsworth theyll find nothing. They wont be able to come in in the first place, trump's wall will keep the illegal aliens out.

    • @ecogreen123
      @ecogreen123 6 лет назад

      it would be obvious to program the A.I. to not do that, but maybe not tho XD

  • @tesseraph
    @tesseraph 8 лет назад

    I really enjoyed the animation in this! :)

  • @ZachMikeMoller
    @ZachMikeMoller 8 лет назад +3

    TED talks are getting awfully disappointing. A machine is not a human being. It is difficult enough to know what is meant by the word "culture" when we are talking about people in the ordinary sense. Add a machine into the mix, and the word ceases to make sense.

    • @frankschneider6156
      @frankschneider6156 8 лет назад

      +GIM
      Why ?

    • @ZachMikeMoller
      @ZachMikeMoller 8 лет назад

      The question that is the subject of this video clip is an interesting one. I realize that in less than five minutes, the answer is not going to be profound. In this case, I found it trivial. Those are hard words, "human, civilization." Just the question of whether it is reasonable to apply "human" to a machine is not even asked. But that could be a whole video in itself.
      Were I to do such a video, I think I would recast the question. What is meant by the spread of human civilization? If we limit this to mean "sending human artifacts throughout the Galaxy," then we have an answer that could be interesting, even with the time constraints of this video.
      There are other possibilities, of course. What I mean to say, is that the question, however interesting, must be cast so that an interesting answer can be given with the necessary constraints of time.
      I hope I am getting my meaning across. As I read what I write, I think of so much more that I could say. But there are constraints in the comments, as well.

    • @frankschneider6156
      @frankschneider6156 8 лет назад

      GIM
      A machine will never be human, but it could be intelligent and therefore have culture.

    • @ZachMikeMoller
      @ZachMikeMoller 8 лет назад

      At this point, we get into more interesting questions. First of all, there is the question of what intelligence is, and the extent to which it is - or has to be - connected with an independent consciousness. If neither consciousness nor independence is demanded, then computers are, in some respect, intelligent, and more intelligent than human beings. But, in practice, consciousness is demanded, or at least assumed.
      Then there is the question of what constitutes culture. Minimally defined, it is the ability to make artifacts. Once you begin to include things like standards of beauty, discussion and the search for knowledge, the development of society, and so on, then the question gets complicated.
      Maybe there will be machines that would properly be recognized as intelligent and capable of culture, in some sense of that word. I am skeptical, but I have read some good science fiction with that theme.

    • @ZachMikeMoller
      @ZachMikeMoller 8 лет назад

      Frank Schneider There are several thing that make me hesitant to agree with everything that you say. Not all that long ago, those researchers who had been arguing that language is a part of evolution came out as a group and said that they had come to the conclusion that they were wrong, and not only that, but that we still know almost nothing about language. The only other theory that ha been proposed is that language is an artifact, something that man created to serve a need.
      Back when it was more common to discuss the artifact theory - end of the 19th century, beginning of the 20th, and before Noam Chomsky, one of the signers of the statement backing away from an evolutionary explanation -, Max Muller refuted most of the proposals as to how such an artifact would come to be.
      One of the results of that change seems to be - and I emphasize "seems" - that although human beings had the physiology to talk for over 100,000 years, maybe more, in fact they don't seem to have used language more than 50,000 years ago. As an artifact, one would think that some of the higher apes could learn to use language. But past a certain point, they cannot be taught. So I remain skeptical that the variety of behaviours we see are in fact a culture, or even a pre-culture. They are simply variations which can be explained by differences of environment. It is only the human being who makes artifact and gathers knowledge so as to create an accumulation of behaviours that allow a culture. To develop.
      My opinion.

  • @strange_and_magnificent
    @strange_and_magnificent 3 года назад

    The animation is amazing.

  • @tchaxu
    @tchaxu 8 лет назад +3

    It's a shame how people can think of these stupid ideas while easily dismissing the existence of God which is way way more likely (some protoshit turning into an ultra-gorgeous, ultra-intelligent human being, seriously???).

    • @DavidAllen-px7gr
      @DavidAllen-px7gr 6 лет назад

      Two things: One, that "photoshit" you mention had 3.5 billion years to work with. Two, while it is more likely than not for a God to have created us, it's far MORE likely that he has a whole civilization to take advice from; it's probabilistic math.

  • @TheAIKnowledgeHub
    @TheAIKnowledgeHub 8 лет назад +1

    How would you know your looking at one?
    I think if this was to happen, the things would be on a nano level. That away they can't take too much resources from a planet.
    But who is to say they have wires, and what not. Why not have a machine that is like a smart germ, an animal, etc. If you think about it, we are a machine.
    So again, how would you know if you're looking at one?

  • @Luis3m_
    @Luis3m_ 8 лет назад

    The narration by Addison Anderson is really good, awesome animation by Eoin.

  • @Snyphen356
    @Snyphen356 8 лет назад

    David Brin is a visionary. His book Existence gives a very plausible and intriguing view of future technology, and alien contact. For instance, everyone wears Augmented Reality eyewear, upon which the internet can be viewed overlaying the real world. I could go on and on.

  • @LemonadeMouthSomebod
    @LemonadeMouthSomebod 8 лет назад

    The animation was beautiful.

  • @smithberns7862
    @smithberns7862 8 лет назад

    there difference of art design/animation is awesome

  • @bzee1219
    @bzee1219 8 лет назад

    nice animation, Eoin Duffy right there

  • @nikkim9948
    @nikkim9948 7 лет назад

    The animation is something I would do. Nicely done!

  • @grisha4167
    @grisha4167 8 лет назад

    Damn guys! Animation is so amazing

  • @fashionhappygirlable
    @fashionhappygirlable 8 лет назад

    omg the editing is so pretty

  • @bottasheimfe5750
    @bottasheimfe5750 3 года назад

    there's this one book series i read about a year ago about this guy who had his mind uploaded into a machine after dying and getting his head frozen a century earlier, and becomes a transhuman network of massive von Neumann Machine ships, with each individual ship's version of the same guy slightly different than the others. they actually consider themselves distinct enough from Humanity that they refer to themselves as "the Bobs", because the original human whose mind made the Alpha Bob was named Bob. it's a pretty interesting take on Von Neumann machines and transhuman civilization and such an organization's relationship with regular Humanity.

  • @madhavmenon3444
    @madhavmenon3444 7 лет назад

    The Music Is Amazing!!!!

  • @JorgeSanchez-kr3eb
    @JorgeSanchez-kr3eb 3 года назад +1

    In light of the government released UAP sightings, this idea seams like a plausible explanation of what the UAPs are

  • @Subparanon
    @Subparanon 8 лет назад

    Also for the record, if you want to talk about Scifi and self replicating machines, David Brinn is not the name to bring up....Gregory Benford, Peter Hamilton (even though they aren't technically machines they are VN organisms), or Alistair Reynolds. All 3 authors deal with species destroying outward expansions of galaxy wide organisms that wipe out intelligent life in order to monopolize resources. If you've ever wondered where the idea for Mass Effects Reapers came from, read those authors.

  • @benjaminwalker4797
    @benjaminwalker4797 7 лет назад

    Im addicted to these videos

  • @b1uezer
    @b1uezer 8 лет назад

    Animation was on point.

  • @ssmshefali
    @ssmshefali 4 года назад +1

    Strange to watch during quarantine..... sitting at home

  • @Mattrons14
    @Mattrons14 8 лет назад

    I really like the Visuals in this video

  • @rowans.corner
    @rowans.corner 3 года назад

    I love the fact that Ted-Ed's animation style is different for every single video.

  • @KennyBky92
    @KennyBky92 7 лет назад

    Thanks TED-Ed I didn't need to sleep tonight...

  • @nighttimetelevision2969
    @nighttimetelevision2969 6 лет назад

    I love this animation

  • @lukaku20wba
    @lukaku20wba 8 лет назад

    same question occurs when we talk about a dyson swarm. theres comes a point where a rapidly advancing civilisation needs to harvest a significant output of a star to meet energy requirements so why dont we detect any dyson swarms. the most alarming theory is that intelligent life has a natural barrier that never gets surpassed.

  • @faxezu
    @faxezu 8 лет назад

    Another book tip on this topic: The Revelation Space books by Alastair Reynolds.

  • @evangratteau438
    @evangratteau438 8 лет назад

    Did anyone ever play Sword of the Stars? There are Von Neumann machine enemies that can cripple your civilization by stealing recources. Usually by assimilating your ships, along with the crewmembers, to make more of themselves.

  • @anubhavkashyap9421
    @anubhavkashyap9421 6 лет назад

    At 00:58, I actually thought that RUclips had paused. xD

  • @Chooseyourownhandle
    @Chooseyourownhandle 8 лет назад

    What is it with all the space videos this week? Is there a space convention somewhere?

  • @geomochi4904
    @geomochi4904 5 лет назад

    The animation and music is *_D O P E_*

  • @Julika7
    @Julika7 8 лет назад

    Nice animation.