what would make cents is if the reports of FedEx is offering 160M per year for naming rights to the Big12 if Memphis is added. You now have a new man in charge of the Big 12 who is a businessman and someone who does things differently. Several reporters out of Memphis saying they have proof he was there. So believe what you want. But I would think someone like Yormark is going to at least listen on that kind of offer.
Nah. When the Big12 was desperate they said no and rightfully picked Houston,UCF,BYU, and Cincinnati over them. Now with the Big12 is stable the only reason to expand is because the networks are willing to pay for it. Only P5 schools get that from ESPN in the media contract and Fox is willing to kick in on case by case also only P5.
@william wheeless Why !!! Colorado, Utah, Arizona schools would make a whole lot more sense especially with the Big 12 wanting to start a network BYU - Utah rivalry, Arizona one of the fastest growing states in America Colorado Denver Market I don't know why they keep pushing Memphis !
My preference would be UConn for the NYC market, we need eyes and a consistent winner. FB can always improve. Arizona, Colorado & either Arizona State, Utah or SDSU for a Big 16, then wait for the ACC to emplode.
They are basically saying they think Texas can go 10-2 in '24 while Oklahoma can't This is all about getting as many teams to 10-2 as possible The SEC wants another 2012
Why would the big 12 add PAC teams? It’s a failing conference for a reason. Mountain & Pacific time zones are just too hard for viewers to stay up for on the east coast. Big 12 should add Memphis and maybe Colorado. Then wait for The ACC to implode and go poach & reunite the old metro conference teams with Memphis and Cincinnati: Va Tech, Florida state, Louisville & Georgia Tech. That would be a hell of a conference when you add it all to the current Big12 roster of teams.
You ask a question in your very first sentence then proceed to say, "maybe Colorado" which is amusing. You mean Colorado who has been the Pac-12 bottom feeder for over a decade? Make it make sense? Hilarious.
We already have BYU. The AZ schools, Utah, Colorado, all already fit the same time frame. The Pac has failed because of incompetence at the conference level and arrogance at the levels of the schools. They obviously overestimated their value and are paying for it. The markets that will feature the sports and the overall college sports market share is what we're concerned with.
Its about money sir! Pac schools will bring in direct money from one (espn) and possibly 2 (fox) tv networks. I don't give a flip how much FedEx can spend. Why is that so hard to understand? It's not that Memphis doesn't have potential it's that the B12 will not add them alone or in a group of G5 only additions. It's not personal it's business. There best chance is if asu and Utah stay put then Memphis might sneak in. Memphis is behind Uconn on that list btw.
Why does big 12 want Colorado they stink in football and basketball. Memphis is better program in football and basketball. Uconn is national champion in basketball, San Diego has good football and excellent basketball program. Even SMU is better and has tons of money .
Dan completely ignored one angle of the Pac's problem: How much of this media deal involves streaming? If it's a significantly high percentage, several members will flee to the Big 12, regardless of money.
What's with the consistent hate on Houston from Memphis supporters? Houston is still the 4th largest city in the country and some are missing the historical value they will bring connecting back vs Baylor, TCU, & Tx. Tech from their days in the SWC. The athletic program has been decent over the last 10yrs and the academia status has been going up. U of H currently has 7 pro teams that they compete against for dollars plus Rice, TSU, & HBU. Houston could've been a beast by now if it wasn't for politics from UT & A&M when it came to joining the original B12. TxTech & Baylor got the knod because they weren't connected to the bigger cities like TCU, SMU, & Houston. Memphis would fit perfect in a 18 team league for the B12 if I had my choices. BYU, AZ, ASU, SDSt., CU, OkSt, TxTech, TCU, Bay, UH, Memp, UCF IoSt, KU, KSU, Cincy, WVU, UConn
I've been saying this for years. Boise and Memphis make too much sense not to obtain! BIG12 and Yolkmurk need to get on it! Memphis first then Boise then the rest. BIG12 will be the conference with parity and lots of solid big brands!
"I don't know if the big 12 needs anyone right now." WHAT!?! We have an existential reprieve until our next contract comes up. We need more competition, more markets, more compelling TV being produced by Big 12 athletics in order to negotiate this next contract. Fine interview, but short sighted in my opinion, a lot like Bowlsby. These losses could have been foreseen and avoided by a far-sighted commissioner.
Due to the media rights agreements of the P5 schools regarding non-P5 add-ons, the Big 12 needs to provide a path to "citizenship" through independents. If SDSU, UNLV, Memphis, SMU, SJSU, Louisville, Liberty, and other such schools want into a P5 conference, go independent, get your own media rights agreement to determine the value of your school, start playing P5 schools as often as you can, and then win those games consistently if you can. That is the best way you can prove yourself ready for the P5 competition. This is the path BYU and Notre Dame have taken. Think about it! Are you ready to advance yourself to the next level or are you going to be comfortable right where you are and decrease your chances of playing for a national championship in the future? The choice is yours if you are up for it!
There is a clause opposite of the pro rata where negotiations are on the table with the networks where P5 schools won't come out of pocket at all. It simply gives G5s a half share until they prove their worth til next media rights deal!
Yeah, but if you have Fred Smith willing to pump 160 Million a year into the conference for naming rights, that gets your attention. That's the report going around, that's coming out of his visit. Plus you can add Memphis and not give them anywhere near a full share. I think Memphis is a good addition if you get the FedEx money and you only get an odd number of Pac schools. No way I take them if you get even number of Pac schools. But if you get Colorado, Arizona and Arizona State, but no Utah....I would take Memphis.
@@wojapi7538 the 7 year old statement Memphis was told renovate the stadium to P5 standards. Update all your facilities and reach R1 Status and get back to us! 2016 when they decided to not expand.
The contract just says it is not automatic. Pro-Rata is subject to negotiation. I could see a situation where the Big 12 gets 1 or 3 schools from the PAC and needs a G5 to "even things out." and FOX and ESPN say okay.
I know Vernon Sheldon-Witter is going to shout me down with this comment I'm going to make here, but I don't care. I have a right to my own opinion, no matter how wrong people believe it is. "Adding Memphis to the Big XII would be a good idea imo. It would make more sense than adding UConn in the grand scheme of things. Geographically Memphis is a better fit for the Big XII than UConn. Performance-wise... yes, that's an issue. Memphis is obviously invested in college basketball, and their football program is in a very similar position to that of UConn. Tapping into SEC territory, knowing the Volunteers are across the state of Tennessee, would be a good play. Economically speaking, I don't know how it's all going to work out for Memphis unless they take the hits and upgrade their facilities. We shall see."
I don't need to shoot you down. Your own comment did the job. This is the reality of Big 12 membership now. Unless an addition already has P5 status, we get no extra funds. Memphis would only shrink our payouts. Nice try though. BTW I realize you have a right to your opinion. It just doesn't mean much in the light of reality.
I heard a rumor they asked memphis and Memphis said they weren't ready yet so they moved on to Houston. It sort of makes sense because Houston was worthless to the big-12.
@@magicsam8247 False on both counts. Houston had a NY6 bowl win and a final 4 appearance in basketball in the last 10 years. Memphis hasn't. Houston has had more regular bowl wins and March Madness wins than Memphis over the last 10 years as well.
@@brandonh5360 every conference is an academic conference. The Big 12, like every conference, is comprised of academic institutions. If you're gonna say "who cares" you have no idea what you're talking about. Just look at University of Cincinnati for example, once they join the Big 12 later this month, they'll be one of highest research spending schools in the conference. Other schools such as Iowa State, KU, Oklahoma State, WVU spend a lot on research. Academics though involves other aspects in addition to research. So, tell me, where should we not care about academics?!
I agree with sdsu, but I believe uconn is a better option over memphis. Uconn gets you access to the New york market, and they are a blue blood in basketball. I know football has been a joke since they left the big east, but they did make a bowl game and might be able to get some consistency in a p5 conference.
@@stevenw5838 oh I don't disagree giving the big12 a fourth in eastern standard time zone. But the Rutgers experiment shows that it isn't worth it in football just for a market that doesn't care about college football. If I had my choice Id choose Arizona and San Diego State. Now and Connecticut basketball would be great but who says they want to leave the Big East
@@stevenw5838 Memphis margin of victory in the AAC Was like 60 points over UCONN. Yeah sure They'll compete better against teams that Memphis isn't good enough to join. Yall are a bunch of morons!
@scottyking7161 No doubt memphis is the better football program, but for reasons i mentioned earlier about NY market and elite basketball. I still think Uconn is more valuable to the Big 12 . Let's be honest. Both programs are not really moving the needle in football, but one of them does in basketball.
If the money is a real part of it, that’s something. But the conference’s name cannot be in any way connected to a corporation. If the FedEx conference were named, Kansas would become an independent before such a thing. But we will take the money.
FedEx doesn't want naming rights to the conference! It just wants to sponser all Big 12 bowl games for 160 million. No naming rights. Lmao he worded that so wrong. FedEx would just want its name affliated with the top conference bowl games.
his texas comments in the big xii were hilarious. TCU is 8-3 against UT in the Big Xii. In his example he gave, "if Texas was saying they should beat TCU every time they play," they were delusional. Texas would have been Vanderbilt in the SEC the last 12 years..
Big 12 should add Colorado, Arizona, Utah and USF. If they add 2 more it’s Arizona State and Memphis. UConn does not fit geographically, culturally, brand-wise or financially
Memphis? They’ve finished ranked 3 times this century. You must be joking Not gonna happen. Healthy expanding Power 5 conferences only invite other Power 5 teams. Only crippled survival mode Power 5 conferences add Group teams.
Only someone who has NEVER BEEN to Memphis would think there is no reason not to ADD Memphis. Their Town Motto is "Memphis - A Nice Place to Get Stabbed".
@@scottyking7161 Just another reason NOBODY actually wants to be associated with Memphis if they have ANY other options. You can keep on deluding yourselves that you are NEXT but you are BEHIND SO MANY OTHERS You have been passed over by Louisville, Cincinnati, South Florida, Central Florida, UConn, Temple, UMass, BYU, Houston, TCU, SDSU, WVU, You are currently LESS VALUABLE than Tulane, SMU, Fresno St, ODU, ECU, Colorado St, Boise St, Nevada, UNLV, UTEP, New Mexico, most of the MAC, Army, Navy, Air Force, Liberty, FIU, FAU, UTSA, North Texas You are in the vicinity of UAB, Southern Miss, Tulsa, New Mexic St, Utah St, the rest of the MAC, and just above the 1-AA schools. SEC, BIG, ACC and Big12 all have to EXPAND to 24 before you even get a SMELL of RELEVANCE in a Power Conference.
Seriously though, gone where? I guess the pac might like the optics of taking a big 12 team but Kansas will have signed on to a GoR for this new rights deal by now.
It's not just Kansas, TCU and possibly Baylor would want to leave. Again, people need to understand that the conference needs to add schools of value. There are reasons UConn makes more sense than Memphis, but geography is not one of them.
No, Memphis doesn't make sense. They couldn't make the cut in the last round when it was only G5 schools the Big 12 was adding. Now the Big 12 can poach PAC schools, and possibly not add a G5 school at all. They should miss the cut again.
@@METALGEARSOL1D We've fallen since Cal left us for Caltucky. But Penny is gradually getting us back to the level we were at under Cal where we were #1 ranked. We were a top 10 basketball brand in the country. We're probably top 30 ish today.
I like Memphis, it gives us a new state, but it's not P5 so there are other better picks if they are available if they NEED to expand. If they don't need to expand I can see why they would wait. IF the B1G & SEC decide to go to 24 Memphis will absolutely be one of the 72 (3 of 24) If they go to 18 or 20 (or stay at 16) it's a tougher call.
Keep hating. If ever given a fair chance Memphis has the facilities and an irritated hungry fan base to become a power in both football and get back to basketball dominance.
No, Memphis has a lot of historical significance. It's a better version of Houston as it doesn't take away from recruiting from the real big Texas brands left in the BIG12. Access to freaking Memphis market is highly coveted!
5 million people in Houston don’t care about the cougars. 1.5 million in Memphis, and 90% are obsessed with Memphis. And the other 10% are SEC fans who root for Memphis to.
They need to get Memphis ASAP. They have a big time basketball program and a Big TV market for football.
Thank you for your kind words and opinion Dan Wetzel!
what would make cents is if the reports of FedEx is offering 160M per year for naming rights to the Big12 if Memphis is added. You now have a new man in charge of the Big 12 who is a businessman and someone who does things differently. Several reporters out of Memphis saying they have proof he was there. So believe what you want. But I would think someone like Yormark is going to at least listen on that kind of offer.
I completely agree on Memphis and be a great big 12 basketball addition!
I have always said Memphis should be in the Big 12 they should have been picked
Nope. Since 1994 when the Conference was formed, our Presidents have wisely turned Memphis down multiple times and will continue to do so
Memphis will be a good fit for the ACC when there GOR ends.
Nah. When the Big12 was desperate they said no and rightfully picked Houston,UCF,BYU, and Cincinnati over them. Now with the Big12 is stable the only reason to expand is because the networks are willing to pay for it. Only P5 schools get that from ESPN in the media contract and Fox is willing to kick in on case by case also only P5.
No to memphis!!! Makes no sense.
@william wheeless
Why !!!
Colorado, Utah, Arizona schools would make a whole lot more sense especially with the Big 12 wanting to start a network
BYU - Utah rivalry, Arizona one of the fastest growing states in America
Colorado Denver Market
I don't know why they keep pushing Memphis !
Memphis is the ONLY G5 school to be to 9 consecutive bowl appearances, one of which was the Cotton Bowl and the other was Liberty Bowl.
My preference would be UConn for the NYC market, we need eyes and a consistent winner. FB can always improve. Arizona, Colorado & either Arizona State, Utah or SDSU for a Big 16, then wait for the ACC to emplode.
By friend I’ve lived in NYC, UCONN doesn’t get The Big 12 the NYC market at all lol😂
They are basically saying they think Texas can go 10-2 in '24 while Oklahoma can't
This is all about getting as many teams to 10-2 as possible
The SEC wants another 2012
Why would the big 12 add PAC teams? It’s a failing conference for a reason. Mountain & Pacific time zones are just too hard for viewers to stay up for on the east coast.
Big 12 should add Memphis and maybe Colorado. Then wait for
The ACC to implode and go poach & reunite the old metro conference teams with Memphis and Cincinnati: Va Tech, Florida state, Louisville & Georgia Tech. That would be a hell of a conference when you add it all to the current Big12 roster of teams.
I've been saying this for a while. I'd even prefer smaller market eastern teams that the league could help grow.
You ask a question in your very first sentence then proceed to say, "maybe Colorado" which is amusing. You mean Colorado who has been the Pac-12 bottom feeder for over a decade?
Make it make sense? Hilarious.
We already have BYU.
The AZ schools, Utah, Colorado, all already fit the same time frame.
The Pac has failed because of incompetence at the conference level and arrogance at the levels of the schools.
They obviously overestimated their value and are paying for it.
The markets that will feature the sports and the overall college sports market share is what we're concerned with.
Its about money sir! Pac schools will bring in direct money from one (espn) and possibly 2 (fox) tv networks. I don't give a flip how much FedEx can spend. Why is that so hard to understand? It's not that Memphis doesn't have potential it's that the B12 will not add them alone or in a group of G5 only additions. It's not personal it's business. There best chance is if asu and Utah stay put then Memphis might sneak in. Memphis is behind Uconn on that list btw.
Smu, Memphis, or Louisville,?
Why does big 12 want Colorado they stink in football and basketball. Memphis is better program in football and basketball. Uconn is national champion in basketball, San Diego has good football and excellent basketball program. Even SMU is better and has tons of money .
Wetzel makes sense...take Memphis
Dan completely ignored one angle of the Pac's problem: How much of this media deal involves streaming? If it's a significantly high percentage, several members will flee to the Big 12, regardless of money.
100%. PAC homers purposely avoid the exposure issue. But surprising a Yahoo Sports guy didn't consider "exposure".
What's with the consistent hate on Houston from Memphis supporters? Houston is still the 4th largest city in the country and some are missing the historical value they will bring connecting back vs Baylor, TCU, & Tx. Tech from their days in the SWC. The athletic program has been decent over the last 10yrs and the academia status has been going up. U of H currently has 7 pro teams that they compete against for dollars plus Rice, TSU, & HBU. Houston could've been a beast by now if it wasn't for politics from UT & A&M when it came to joining the original B12. TxTech & Baylor got the knod because they weren't connected to the bigger cities like TCU, SMU, & Houston.
Memphis would fit perfect in a 18 team league for the B12 if I had my choices.
BYU, AZ, ASU, SDSt., CU, OkSt,
TxTech, TCU, Bay, UH, Memp, UCF
IoSt, KU, KSU, Cincy, WVU, UConn
Memphis will never get in the Big 12. Our Presidents have repeatedly said no thanks.
Agreed.
Dont you know Vernon has spoken! He's the X12 VP of operations!
Not all Memphis contingents are like that. Goodluck to you guys
I've been saying this for years. Boise and Memphis make too much sense not to obtain! BIG12 and Yolkmurk need to get on it! Memphis first then Boise then the rest. BIG12 will be the conference with parity and lots of solid big brands!
Big brands where it's just non wanted left overs and g5s
Neither team brings value and would cause the current schools to lose money. Not going to happen.
@elvangulley3210 There is no more G5 only BIG10 and SEC and everyone else. BIG12 needs to load up on historical brands!
@bigroy2973 a genuis like Yolkman will make it work! The experts are speaking now!
@@METALGEARSOL1D you call memphis Cincinnati ucf Houston historical lol byu will be the only brand in the big 12 and they are mid at best
I agree with the problems in the B10. They don't have enough quality teams. The B12 has better teams top to bottom than the b10.
B1G doesn’t have any problems
What? 🤣
I like Memphis and Boise. I thought years ago Boise, SanDiego State, BYU and Army should join the AAC to form a true Power 6 league...
To form a whaaat? Lmao
Big 12 needs big schools to add value they already have good small schools
"I don't know if the big 12 needs anyone right now."
WHAT!?!
We have an existential reprieve until our next contract comes up.
We need more competition, more markets, more compelling TV being produced by Big 12 athletics in order to negotiate this next contract.
Fine interview, but short sighted in my opinion, a lot like Bowlsby.
These losses could have been foreseen and avoided by a far-sighted commissioner.
Memphis has been mislabeled much too long. Memphis is a Power 5 University. Memphis is not just any Group of 5 School. 12:20
Due to the media rights agreements of the P5 schools regarding non-P5 add-ons, the Big 12 needs to provide a path to "citizenship" through independents. If SDSU, UNLV, Memphis, SMU, SJSU, Louisville, Liberty, and other such schools want into a P5 conference, go independent, get your own media rights agreement to determine the value of your school, start playing P5 schools as often as you can, and then win those games consistently if you can. That is the best way you can prove yourself ready for the P5 competition. This is the path BYU and Notre Dame have taken. Think about it! Are you ready to advance yourself to the next level or are you going to be comfortable right where you are and decrease your chances of playing for a national championship in the future? The choice is yours if you are up for it!
Louisville is already P5(ACC).
There is a clause opposite of the pro rata where negotiations are on the table with the networks where P5 schools won't come out of pocket at all. It simply gives G5s a half share until they prove their worth til next media rights deal!
The Big 12 media contract will not activate the Pro Rata clause with any G5 university, including Memphis.
Uconn still G5! Left a G5 conference cause they couldn't compete with G5s. So it applies to them and SD ST also!🙄
Yeah, but if you have Fred Smith willing to pump 160 Million a year into the conference for naming rights, that gets your attention. That's the report going around, that's coming out of his visit. Plus you can add Memphis and not give them anywhere near a full share. I think Memphis is a good addition if you get the FedEx money and you only get an odd number of Pac schools. No way I take them if you get even number of Pac schools. But if you get Colorado, Arizona and Arizona State, but no Utah....I would take Memphis.
@@jamiethornton6101 your comment is 2 hours old and Fed Ex offering up 160 million is 7 years old. ( 2016 ) it aint happenin
@@wojapi7538 the 7 year old statement Memphis was told renovate the stadium to P5 standards. Update all your facilities and reach R1 Status and get back to us! 2016 when they decided to not expand.
The contract just says it is not automatic. Pro-Rata is subject to negotiation. I could see a situation where the Big 12 gets 1 or 3 schools from the PAC and needs a G5 to "even things out." and FOX and ESPN say okay.
I know Vernon Sheldon-Witter is going to shout me down with this comment I'm going to make here, but I don't care. I have a right to my own opinion, no matter how wrong people believe it is.
"Adding Memphis to the Big XII would be a good idea imo. It would make more sense than adding UConn in the grand scheme of things. Geographically Memphis is a better fit for the Big XII than UConn. Performance-wise... yes, that's an issue. Memphis is obviously invested in college basketball, and their football program is in a very similar position to that of UConn. Tapping into SEC territory, knowing the Volunteers are across the state of Tennessee, would be a good play. Economically speaking, I don't know how it's all going to work out for Memphis unless they take the hits and upgrade their facilities. We shall see."
I don't need to shoot you down. Your own comment did the job. This is the reality of Big 12 membership now. Unless an addition already has P5 status, we get no extra funds. Memphis would only shrink our payouts. Nice try though. BTW I realize you have a right to your opinion. It just doesn't mean much in the light of reality.
@@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Memphis will pay for itself! City has low poverty. The university does not. Those that don't live here are so clueless!
@@scottyking7161 uh, Memphis as a city does not have low poverty
@@Montfortracing correct. It doesn't!
@@Montfortracing but what do they know in here. I grew up in Frayser!
Memphis upset Houston was picked over them lmaooo
No we aren't being in the AAC we are rooting for all 3 of yall. Im always supportive of schools in the league that get that chance. Goodluck guys.
I heard a rumor they asked memphis and Memphis said they weren't ready yet so they moved on to Houston. It sort of makes sense because Houston was worthless to the big-12.
I mean, it also would be utterly idiotic on the part of Memphis if that was true.
Yes bc they’ve been far more successful in football and basketball than Houston in the last 10 years
@@magicsam8247 False on both counts. Houston had a NY6 bowl win and a final 4 appearance in basketball in the last 10 years. Memphis hasn't.
Houston has had more regular bowl wins and March Madness wins than Memphis over the last 10 years as well.
Memphis and USF both need to get picked up by us
And make the existing schools lose money? Not going to happen.
Exactly then Tulane
I'd prefer USF and Tulane. Memphis is not great academically.
@@Montfortracing we aren’t an academic conference…who cares
@@brandonh5360 every conference is an academic conference. The Big 12, like every conference, is comprised of academic institutions. If you're gonna say "who cares" you have no idea what you're talking about. Just look at University of Cincinnati for example, once they join the Big 12 later this month, they'll be one of highest research spending schools in the conference. Other schools such as Iowa State, KU, Oklahoma State, WVU spend a lot on research. Academics though involves other aspects in addition to research. So, tell me, where should we not care about academics?!
Texas A&M is going to move to the B1G to stay away from the Burnt Orange Cancer.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Not a chance…………
@@jeffkilgore6320 The B1G pays more, the B1G would love someone in Texas, TA&M hates Orange Cancer. It's COULD happen, just not likely. 🙂
It's a possibility with them being AAU and the hate for the longhorns. They would also have an easier path to the playoffs.
If they add two SDSU and Memphis makes sense if they can't get pac12 schools. Memphis needs on campus stadium
I agree with sdsu, but I believe uconn is a better option over memphis. Uconn gets you access to the New york market, and they are a blue blood in basketball. I know football has been a joke since they left the big east, but they did make a bowl game and might be able to get some consistency in a p5 conference.
@@stevenw5838 oh I don't disagree giving the big12 a fourth in eastern standard time zone. But the Rutgers experiment shows that it isn't worth it in football just for a market that doesn't care about college football. If I had my choice Id choose Arizona and San Diego State. Now and Connecticut basketball would be great but who says they want to leave the Big East
@@stevenw5838 Memphis avg margin of victory over UCONN is like 60 points a game!
@@stevenw5838 Memphis margin of victory in the AAC Was like 60 points over UCONN. Yeah sure They'll compete better against teams that Memphis isn't good enough to join. Yall are a bunch of morons!
@scottyking7161 No doubt memphis is the better football program, but for reasons i mentioned earlier about NY market and elite basketball. I still think Uconn is more valuable to the Big 12 . Let's be honest. Both programs are not really moving the needle in football, but one of them does in basketball.
Memphis just wants to hang with the cool kids
Texas hot beat up in the Big 12 so did A&N2!
If the money is a real part of it, that’s something. But the conference’s name cannot be in any way connected to a corporation. If the FedEx conference were named, Kansas would become an independent before such a thing.
But we will take the money.
FedEx doesn't want naming rights to the conference! It just wants to sponser all Big 12 bowl games for 160 million. No naming rights. Lmao he worded that so wrong. FedEx would just want its name affliated with the top conference bowl games.
Memphis does not make sense. Only current P5 schools
At Michigan, okay. A&M/Arkansas/OU were all terrible. How is that a grind…
FRESNO STATE TO THE BIG 12
Big 12 should pass on G5 schools.
his texas comments in the big xii were hilarious. TCU is 8-3 against UT in the Big Xii. In his example he gave, "if Texas was saying they should beat TCU every time they play," they were delusional. Texas would have been Vanderbilt in the SEC the last 12 years..
Big 12 should add Colorado, Arizona, Utah and USF. If they add 2 more it’s Arizona State and Memphis. UConn does not fit geographically, culturally, brand-wise or financially
Memphis? They’ve finished ranked 3 times this century. You must be joking
Not gonna happen.
Healthy expanding Power 5 conferences only invite other Power 5 teams.
Only crippled survival mode Power 5 conferences add Group teams.
Uhm and when did Colorado, Arizona, or uconn finish top 25 the last decade??
It's best for Memphis to stay where they are the uniforms and the name horrendous!!!!
Memphis
Only someone who has NEVER BEEN to Memphis would think there is no reason not to ADD Memphis. Their Town Motto is "Memphis - A Nice Place to Get Stabbed".
Actually its Memphis vs everybody
@@scottyking7161 Just another reason NOBODY actually wants to be associated with Memphis if they have ANY other options.
You can keep on deluding yourselves that you are NEXT but you are BEHIND SO MANY OTHERS
You have been passed over by Louisville, Cincinnati, South Florida, Central Florida, UConn, Temple, UMass, BYU, Houston, TCU, SDSU, WVU,
You are currently LESS VALUABLE than Tulane, SMU, Fresno St, ODU, ECU, Colorado St, Boise St, Nevada, UNLV, UTEP, New Mexico, most of the MAC, Army, Navy, Air Force, Liberty, FIU, FAU, UTSA, North Texas
You are in the vicinity of UAB, Southern Miss, Tulsa, New Mexic St, Utah St, the rest of the MAC, and just above the 1-AA schools.
SEC, BIG, ACC and Big12 all have to EXPAND to 24 before you even get a SMELL of RELEVANCE in a Power Conference.
lol. The Big 12 adds Memphis and Kansas is gone. Let’s be honest
Gone where?
@@scottyking7161 Either Independent or they could join Western Civic Capital's Gulfpac 16 or GPAC16.
Seriously though, gone where? I guess the pac might like the optics of taking a big 12 team but Kansas will have signed on to a GoR for this new rights deal by now.
It's not just Kansas, TCU and possibly Baylor would want to leave. Again, people need to understand that the conference needs to add schools of value. There are reasons UConn makes more sense than Memphis, but geography is not one of them.
Why?
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Memphis makes 0 sense while we are still hunting for pac 12 teams.
True, even if Pac and Acc schools are a no-go, there are better g5 schools like Sdsu and Uconn.
Memphis falls in the Plan B category.
No, Memphis doesn't make sense. They couldn't make the cut in the last round when it was only G5 schools the Big 12 was adding. Now the Big 12 can poach PAC schools, and possibly not add a G5 school at all. They should miss the cut again.
Goodluck with that
I thought Yormark said he hasn't spoken to Memphis, I hope not Memphis just ain't all that period.
I hope Memphis ends up in the Big 12 so haters like you will have to eat crow.
Memphis is a top brand. How dare you!
@@METALGEARSOL1D We've fallen since Cal left us for Caltucky. But Penny is gradually getting us back to the level we were at under Cal where we were #1 ranked. We were a top 10 basketball brand in the country. We're probably top 30 ish today.
@@mikem957 Our Presidents will make sure you are not.
I like Memphis, it gives us a new state, but it's not P5 so there are other better picks if they are available if they NEED to expand.
If they don't need to expand I can see why they would wait.
IF the B1G & SEC decide to go to 24 Memphis will absolutely be one of the 72 (3 of 24)
If they go to 18 or 20 (or stay at 16) it's a tougher call.
NO MEMPHIS EVER !!!!
Memphis doesn’t make since! Memphis is a poor U of H!
Keep hating. If ever given a fair chance Memphis has the facilities and an irritated hungry fan base to become a power in both football and get back to basketball dominance.
No, Memphis has a lot of historical significance. It's a better version of Houston as it doesn't take away from recruiting from the real big Texas brands left in the BIG12. Access to freaking Memphis market is highly coveted!
No. Memphis is just 1/4th the size of Houston and didn't get in over market size
5 million people in Houston don’t care about the cougars. 1.5 million in Memphis, and 90% are obsessed with Memphis. And the other 10% are SEC fans who root for Memphis to.
@@mikem957 Yeah right. Keep wanting it. It will never happen.