She´s surprised that this became an issue? Are you kidding me?? They have to create another word for crazy, crazy is not enough to describe them anymore....
sasaengs don't want to get filmed? what if someone would follow these sasaengs and follow them everywhere? I wonder how would they feel like. I hope someone would do this so they know what the hell are they doing to those celebrities. Please do something about these things.. they're not fans if they treat everyone like shit.. it hurts me even when they threaten normal fans..
God, is that why education in Korea is REALLY important ? (The video said that the sasaengs are young and usually don't go to school). KPOP idols are really brave to be patient like that. I find Koreans really lucky to be 'Korean' because they can meet their idols everywhere in unexpected moments while us, International fans, are just watching videos, going to tumblr and allkpop ... They (Koreans) should be proud of it, not chasing their idols. (Sorry for my English :3).
How irony, they dont want others to film or record them but they film and record every movement of their idol! Sick mind it is~ they seriously need help, korean government can invest more on psychological industry for the sake of other innocent people.
Unfortunately in the kpop world, bad things like this do exist. Its really embarrassing that we are making bad and first impressions of kpop. Just imagine showing your friend the world of kpop for the first time and suddenly see saesang news. Their reaction? They will just leave and be disgusted.
This is disturbing. Like seriously, it's like a horror story brought to life. Is their lives so empty and lifeless, that they have to go into prostitution, abuse others, and disrupt societal life JUST TO GET A CELEBRITY'S ATTENTION? And to make matters worse, the law and business (the taxis for example) are doing little to assist in the situation, it's like it's ALRIGHT for them to do criminal acts and they can't do a thing to stop them. I'm so baffled at this bs...
You know, I actually think their lives are indeed empty or something's just wrong. Their behavior also only lets me think about psychological disorders. Being so obsessed and immersed with people you don't even know, there just has to be something wrong. I can be quite obsessive and jealous myself and I know that this is because of past things that messed up my psychological well being, but I would never ever go as far as them and that's why I really think that their behavior comes from psychological problems. They actually need help but no one even cares to look into all this sasaeng thing. It could be stopped if these girls would get taken away from idols and get therapy. I'm quite positive about that :>
They shouldn't be called "fans" in any way. “Brain-damaged psychopaths” is more fitting in my opinion. I mean, what’s wrong with them? Where and how hard did they hit their heads to end up being so messed up? They should be put in prison all together! Seriously, you should be interested in the well-being of someone you love instead of doing literally everything to be noticed by that person. I feel so bad for the idols… Honestly Korea, you should do something against those kids! At least I know now what to look out for when I’m attending a kpop concert in Korea…
"We expect a more mature fandom culture in the future." Pshh, like that's ever gonna happen, unless there are some serious consequences enforced onto these insane people ( they are NOT fans) for what they do, I don't think it'll stop and instead just get worse.
This. So much. The way kpop idols interact with their fans are interesting, just looking at the efforts they made to connect with the fans. They talk about personal things quite a lot as well, and just the general approach they take to portray themselves cultivates an illusion of feeling very close to them for the audience in general. This works especially well with teens or those who aren't very independent or mature in their thinking yet and... Also there's no real repercussions.
Seriously as an international fan these girls would get short shift from me if they tried to tag along to get better seats or think I would be grateful to them and pay them for tagging along. No one needs someone like that around them. Trust me an international fan would slap them back much harder, they are so disrespectful!
I have goosebumps... They are really insane... Wow. This is ... I have no words. How can they be considered fan? They are just just stalkers. And unfortunately I do not think there will ever be an end to sasaeng ... I'm really sorry for our idols...
I remeber when sasaengs crashes exo baekhyun's brother wedding just because exo are there, EXO are really mad at sasaengs and he think its his fault, but its all because of sasaengs!!-_-
It's fucking unacceptable to ruin an event for personal gain, a very significant one too - such disrespectful behaviour.. why would your idol be intrested in such disgusting people? :/
mte. If they can't arrest the sasaengs because of their age or because Entertainments don't sue them okay (still awful but okay, I get it at least) but those taxi drivers like seriously, it shouldn't be difficult to sue and arrest them right? I don't know much about laws, especially in Korea, but hey, this can't be legal...
I think they should rename saesang fans into Stalkers. And even if they are being recognized by the celebrity, the celeb is probably NOT thinking "oh thats the fan that knows me best! I like him/her out of all my fans" but INSTEAD its "thats the stalker that follows my every move. She/he should just mind their own business." GOSH LEAVE THEM ALONE.
5:25 I said "What? Really?" like a billion times. I just had to pause the video to collect my thoughts. I mean I love kpop and the artist but selling your body for them is really extreme. As if sasaengs have a horrible reputation...this is the icing on the cake.
It's so ironic how the sasaengs are running away from the camera, shouting how they don't want to be filmed but at the same time they take pictures and videos of idols whenever and wherever they want to and don't even care if the idol actually wants that. It's also kinda shocking that the sasaeng that's being interviewed here doesn't even feel a little bit bad for her actions and how superior she feels towards "normal fans" like wtf I think they all have some mental problems going on, cause this is not normal thinking and behavior. What I don't understand at all are the parents. They should know about what their children are doing right? If they know they should take action, cause their children can't live like that and they won't have a future if all they do is chase after idols. Skipping or dropping out of school? What are they gonna do when they're adults? Sasaengs need to be stopped on several levels: parents, law, psychologically and from the idol side (or rather Entertainment side). Otherwise I don't see them going away, only getting worse probably. Well, seems like someone has to die before proper action is taken. And I really hope it won't have to go that far before people wake up and do something. Sorry for the long rant.
I'm all up for "Fight the bad!" "Create the resistance!!".. but the fan that did the interview said that the sasaeng fans get really aggressive towards the korean normal fans.. so, we can't do anything in that department until quite a few of the calm-unless-provoked fans go and defend and do what's right.. or what's morally correct--according to universal/worldwide standards. No? TBH this video got me really upset, mad even. I just can't see such a mad obsession happening to that extent. Enough to change an idols attitude towards the fans in general (D.O reference). Goodness, don't even get me started on the recent incidents (Seungri Car accident)
The part that got me really mad is when they took advantage of international fans. Oh my god >:( International fans only get to experience this probably once and they have to go through these annoying saesang fans or whatever
Kind of sad for sasaengs that they're desperate for their oppas to notice them. I know how it feels but I don't have the nerve to do such things.. e.e I wish I could like start a group the opposite of sasaengs to like protect our oppas from them ;-;
Im curious what happened to this saeseng they interviewed. After all the confessions she told like going inside their dorms, they just let her go? Ok thank you for the interview you can go now, just like that?
This makes me really worried. It's no wonder some groups are more distant with fans than others. I'm being serious when I say these 'fans' need real help. Anyone is able to get obsessed with anything and it's ruining their daily functional life. Don't get me wrong I'm not sympathising with them or anything but for the sake of everyone something should be done... I hope all Idols and celebrities are never harmed because of these 'fans'
The only thing international fans should be grateful is that both sides are in public and this hinders them to tore the sasaengss eyes, thus preventing the police from throwing the intl fans to jail
This is scary. I feel pity towards the idols. We should all respect the artist instead of immaturely attacking them. I really hope fandoms can be more mature in the future. This behavior is just wrong. Let's be good fans together!!
the driver knows exactly where and when the idols/celebrities are, their favourite places, their cars & plate numbers, their activities. and although my korean is very limited, i overheard his conversation on phone with another driver, and fairly understood that the other was telling him about the whereabouts of SuJu members.
This gave me shivers; how creepy can some be? Even 1D fans don't go this far (well I hope not!). When EXO came to London, a group of girls were following them around and the boys looked harassed. If I was a taxi driver, I'd drive a sasaeng(s) to the nearest mental health hospital. Thank God anti-stalking laws exists here in the UK.
The thing is, the korean law force doesn't seem to take this problem seriously and those celebrities and their companies are too afraid (or maybe for some other reasons) to report these fans. They need to take some real actions in order for this to stop.
Seeing this, it's a good thing that Joon doesn't have twitter and isn't planning to get one. He could be tracked from there. Also now it makes sense how some idols including Joon didn't have a cell phone at some point.
theres a person at school like this........they lied and stuff so i stopped talking to them and now they are harassing me on the internet. I wish people wouldnt go to the extreme it would make life so much easier. I hope the idol like kyuhyun when he was in spain will safe and there will be more people to guard them.
I am terrified now. I don't want to go to a concert, US or Korea, and fear for my safety just for cheering for the groups that I like. these people need to get lives.
oh this is scary!! when SMTown concert here in Anaheim took place, i went to the airport to see them like any other fan (also it was my fist k-pop experience and concert) and when SNSD. SuJu, & TVXQ arrived and left, cars pulled up people jumped in and chased after them. it didn't take that long before everyone knew where they were all staying at. like i always say bitches be crazy! and then ripping off and harassing international fans, and i really wanted to go to korea....scary shit!
I'm so sad about this, fans should protect and love their artists ): not scare them and make them life impossible. I wish I could do something about it
..........I can't even The scary part is, some of these people are beyond OVERLY invested and emotionally attached. When you get to the point of selling your body just to feed this saesang habit....... This makes me really fear for the idols. There is no reasoning with them. There is really nothing you can say or do to try and shock them from doing this they're so far gone. And to think of the resources/connections that they have; if idols do try to stand up imagine what they(SF) could do.
That's very disgusting. I once read an article about a girl that sent an idol a letter written by her period blood. Poor idols they must be traumatized by those freaks!
This is quite disturbing to know. I'm a fan but I still know my limits and am aware to give my fave group their space and due respect. Too much of anything can become obsessive and fatal for both parties... sad... :(
I really am surprised these girls HAVEN'T been charged with stalking...im only familiar with US laws but stalking is actually considered a violent act..and it is very much a personal saftey issue for these guys and others around them...not to mention the emotional toll it takes on people...being stalked is a traumatic experience whether you are famous or not...you should be able to sleep at night knowing you're safe..
Celebrities are all servicemen. They provide the service of entertainment for the mass and for themselves. To harass these servicemen is not only disrespectful, but also shows their thoughtlessness. If they "loved" their celebrities, they would be careful to keep them safe and unharmed, not slap them so the celebrity would remember them. They're selfish and cruel. They say that "it's for the sake of such-and-such," what shameless lies. Sasaeng fans need to open their eyes. This is not love.
this program is about korean sasaengs. let ask BBC or other western broadcasting companies to make programs about western sasaengs, or other asian TV channels to inform us about their own sasaengs. it's korean tv so of course they will tell about their own problem...
Omg thats extreme like crazy and i saw this video an international fan was recording exo and this sasaeng slapped her cell and yelled at her. In the US celebrities throw stalkers in jail. The fact that they have a ring going on is crazy. Im afraid what may happen to a kpop celeb. in the future if its gotten this bad
Now that I think about it...I feel like I'm kind of a secondhand sasaeng fan in a way...if there's a Kpop star I like, it's like I support these sasaeng fans and their work by watching their videos and such... :P oh dear...
this is shocking. i can't even imagine what the idols go through and how they're coping with all these intrusion towards their private lives. these people seriously needs to get a life - as in a real normal life.
If I were to be interviewed as a NORMAL fan in there, I swear I'd tell them what I feel about those so-called SASAENG "fans" or the way I call them "crazy abnormal obsessed freaks". Those people AREN'T FANS! REAL FANS respect the idols' privacy, not stalk them and even go break into their dorm, or hotel if they're overseas. I feel sorry for every idol being stalked like this. They don't deserve this kind of treatment!! And Heechul who recently closed his twitter account because of them... )':
Oh wow, I never saw a follow-up on the incident... I blame the lack of security/staff for not doing their job and making sure no one approached the stage. She didn't press charges?! I think that's probably one of the problems with this sasaeng issue. Idols/celebs are just letting these issues slide. Instead of giving them consequences, they just let them go. They're going to have to do something before it gets any worse. But yeah, these people are more stalkers than fans.
They (company or idols) should call the police or security for the idols, if the sasaengs going over the line. Did they think idols would love them, because they stalk them, hurting their fans and don't give them privacy? They should go to a psychologist, if they think so.
You can't stop them don't you see that? They said they usually go into their houses, read their text messages and feel proud when they know more than regular fans right? So imagine if a idol decides to file charges on one of these super fans, imagine the dirt that this fan has on this idol. If you spend every waking moment stalking someone your going to learn their secrets, that's why they are allowed to do what they want. Cause if you go against them they can ruin you, simply and easily.
Actually to be honest, when Kpop artist comes to Singapore, it's almost the same thing. We(3/5 of fans) wait for them at the airport/hotel for Hours. And then those extreme will book a van to 'stalk them' during their schedule when artist are sightseeing . The only good thing is that there are security at those area and they are staying here for maximum 3-4 days. Imagine them staying in Singapore for a whole Singapore month, I think Singapore fans will have the same reputation as Sasaeng fans.
I have a feeling that as kpop continues to grow and its international fanbase gets bigger, int. fans and sasaeng fans are going to seriously clash at some point.
they should interview some idols and have them personally say how much they don't appreciate the Sasaeng fans. Maybe that would get them to understand that 'oppa' doesn't like them being stalkers.
Sasengs do come from other Asian countries. Most often Japanese, but Chinese and Philippinas are known as well. They just follow thier oppa around. In fact most sasengs just follow around not doing anything crazier. There used to be a hour long documentary about problems caused just by these benign sasengs but I cannot find it now.
Getting specific job to stalk ur fave celeb is i think genius... They are earning at the same time they can stalk freely without hassle to their faves.
I sure that girl USED to be a sasaeng. There was also an article out and it mentioned that the interviewers got to speak with a girl that used to be a sasaeng.
The reason sasaengs can intimidate normal fans is because they have such strong unity and connections. Normal fans have the numbers, so I personally think that if we worked to look out for and protect each other from these crazy people, they would be the ones that can't touch us.
Becoming a Sasaeng fan is good so you can be recognized by your favourite celebrity? WELL maybe. Cause the celebrity WILL notice you but in a negative way. I say, you should make yourself stand out in a positive way. Maybe giving him/her gifts that are creative and with a lot of effort put into it.
Don't we all? They usually have one person in their group that has a lot of money and plus when they use taxis and stuff they split it so it's not /as/ expensive.
This is really sad, it should exist a procedure for saseng fans, they should go to Jail, I think in other place of the world, this sasaengs fans would be treated as stalkers and celebrities would filed charges against them, I dont know why in Korea is not done that way... anyway, we should always remember this before judging the attitude some idols have when faced with a sasaeng...
you know what though.... tbh if an intl fan got slapped, the best decision at that possible moment would be to keep quiet and leave the situation. The sasaengs are more in number so it would be unwise to react resulting in a bloody battle. Though later on they could register a police complaint or contact the media or smth.
oh god I got goosebumps from watching this. tbh I went to Seoul last summer, and went to Sukira. as usual, program ended at 12am, i was supposed 2 ride taxi to hotel, but accidentally got into a sasaeng taxi. (luckily) I squeezed a few juice from him. then by curiosity, i told him 2 go to SJ dorm, just 2 see it then go back. there, i saw a foreign fan, and happened 2 know that she'd come 2 seoul to follow SJ every single holidays she has. so the local saseangs r at the much higher level...
My friend ever got hit by sasaeng sones, it was back then when Sones were in a war with ELF, but my friend apparently liked SNSD, but the sasaengs wouldn't even welcome new fans.
leaving used sanity pads at their door, using their bodies to pay taxi fare? ok this is seriously fucked up!! all of them should be ashamed as humans and more importantly as girls!! no idol would respect or even appreciate you doing all these fucked up things for them!
If a sasaeng fan tries to threaten or intimidate me, I am just going to flat out curse them out. I really don't give a f*ck. Those crazy fans shouldn't be allowed to do that. The idols must feel like they're being harrased or assaulted. I feel very sorry for them. For me, even just a glimpse of my favorite idols is okay for me. But what those sasaengs do, even to the normal fans, are just overboard. They should have a law against that. It's disrespectful.
This actually terrifies me, I only know about Sasaengs because of the stuff happening to exo but OMG how can they be so stupid seriously I am only 14 and I know thats wrong, something needs to be done, I am genuinely terrified for the idols..
So um, I went to Korea for a concert and although I'm Korean, I can't speak it all that well and my grandparents are (not bragging) but "rich" in Korean standards. So, my grandparents live in the same apartment like complex as an idol (will not reveal who) and I was so excited cause I knew who they were! But, I didn't do anything or go over to them because I didn't want to bother them but I got tickets for this idol, and while walking out I was like "I could tell them that I live next to them! That would be kinda creepy tho..." and while waiting a group of girls noticed my American clothing and said hi. I said hi back in Korean but I had an American accent and they immediately knew that I was foreign. They said they were willing to help me out if I just payed for it and because I was so gullible(still am) I agreed. I also told them that I live near the idol and they asked me where I lived, I told them no I didn't want to give that out and one of the girls just slapped me and said "tell me right now" I ran away but they chased after me so I had to hide in a public bathroom. I'm glad I didn't tell them because I really respected that idol
They bring shame to even normal fans too. Why bothering about idols private life, if they are in showbiz it doesn't mean they can't do what they want. Fans should control themselves. They are singer we should only be concerned with the music not what they do back stage or at their houses. This video actually give me chills.. How idols must have been so scared of them
being a fan is nice BUT being a SASAENG "fans" is toooooo BAD IT IS VERY VERY SUPER BAD! sasaengs should be in jail forever! true fans love and respect their idols especially the idols privacy! sasaengs is like a super crazy person! are they a true fans? because true fans will not do it, so sasaengs should be in jail, they should be punished, and do they even have a parents? because if they have what kind of parents are they? teaching their children a bad manners/attitude? invading persons privacy is a crime!!!!
this is so scary. i understand if you just go to a concert or performance, but following stars around 24/7? what about your own life? don't you want to live it?
Being a sasaeng is a sickness, imo. they are people with obsessive behavior, STALKERS, and need psychiatric help. Idols and companies really just need to beef of security in every way possible. And that's too bad for normal fans who keep their distance, mind own business. This situation makes the idols scared of everybody. They ruin the fun for everybody, tbh.
I serously think SK has to take legal actions, if they let it escalate further there are going to be accidents or worse, casulties. If the Kpop stars are being followed of course there'll be an accident sooner or later. Sasaeng fans should be taken to court, I know it's very easy to say but they really should DO something. Don't let them sleep in front of the dorm. Contact taxi companies and talk about it. Just don't be so passive and wait till the bomb explodes, it'll be too late by then o.o
FINALLY MADE THIS A HUGE DEAL To the SASAENG FANS IF YOU EVER LAY A HAND ON ME OR EVEN THREATEN ME I WILL SET YOU ON FIRE MARK MY WORDS im not a sasaeng fan i just learned what this is and thoses girls REALLY NEED A LIFE
True, but if they actually received punishmentfor it (either from the government or their parents depending on age) I feel like some reaction should take place and they might begin to understand their behavior. It can have the opposite effect too, because if they are seriously treated each time they cross the line they might stop. Imagine a bullier, s/he will go on until someone sets stop for him/her.
i really don't get why they should threatening other local fans even international fans. i don't get how they still even PROUD to do those stuff. and how they prevent normal fans to go to performances with only a blacklist? everything is so confusing to me.. it disgusting honestly, but at the same time i pity them (sasaengs)..
Why is there no action being taken against this? People are stalking, people are invading privacy, people are getting hurt, FOR GODS SAKE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE PROSTITUTING THEMSELVES. This needs to be stopped.
Sasaengs are just scary. They shouldn't be called "fans" because fans are people who support the celebrities and respect their privacy. Prostitution, stalking their every move, skipping school, and leaving used pads outside their door? They are insane! They probably are outcasts and are attention deprived kids- but they need healthier solutions to their problems. Korea should set stricter laws that prevent this..I feel bad for the korean celebrities who get stalked.
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Meanwhile government is not doing anything about that ? something very wrong in their mind , those sasaengs ... wow .. cray as fck !
She´s surprised that this became an issue? Are you kidding me?? They have to create another word for crazy, crazy is not enough to describe them anymore....
sasaengs don't want to get filmed? what if someone would follow these sasaengs and follow them everywhere?
I wonder how would they feel like. I hope someone would do this so they know what the hell are they doing to those celebrities.
Please do something about these things.. they're not fans if they treat everyone like shit.. it hurts me even when they threaten normal fans..
it's like an actually zombie apocalypse..
kyuunji lmao ikr. They don't want to be filmed yet they stalk others and ruin their privacy. How would u like it if someone steals ur undies? LOL.
True. Give them a dose of their own medicine. Lets see if that doesnt creep them out.
God, is that why education in Korea is REALLY important ? (The video said that the sasaengs are young and usually don't go to school). KPOP idols are really brave to be patient like that. I find Koreans really lucky to be 'Korean' because they can meet their idols everywhere in unexpected moments while us, International fans, are just watching videos, going to tumblr and allkpop ... They (Koreans) should be proud of it, not chasing their idols. (Sorry for my English :3).
How irony, they dont want others to film or record them but they film and record every movement of their idol!
Sick mind it is~ they seriously need help, korean government can invest more on psychological industry for the sake of other innocent people.
dolphinxiah I totally agree.
Unfortunately in the kpop world, bad things like this do exist. Its really embarrassing that we are making bad and first impressions of kpop.
Just imagine showing your friend the world of kpop for the first time and suddenly see saesang news. Their reaction? They will just leave and be disgusted.
This is disturbing. Like seriously, it's like a horror story brought to life. Is their lives so empty and lifeless, that they have to go into prostitution, abuse others, and disrupt societal life JUST TO GET A CELEBRITY'S ATTENTION? And to make matters worse, the law and business (the taxis for example) are doing little to assist in the situation, it's like it's ALRIGHT for them to do criminal acts and they can't do a thing to stop them. I'm so baffled at this bs...
You know, I actually think their lives are indeed empty or something's just wrong. Their behavior also only lets me think about psychological disorders. Being so obsessed and immersed with people you don't even know, there just has to be something wrong. I can be quite obsessive and jealous myself and I know that this is because of past things that messed up my psychological well being, but I would never ever go as far as them and that's why I really think that their behavior comes from psychological problems. They actually need help but no one even cares to look into all this sasaeng thing. It could be stopped if these girls would get taken away from idols and get therapy. I'm quite positive about that :>
if you are so invested in a celebrity's private life to go to such lengths, you need to reevaluate your life choices smh
They shouldn't be called "fans" in any way. “Brain-damaged psychopaths” is more fitting in my opinion. I mean, what’s wrong with them? Where and how hard did they hit their heads to end up being so messed up? They should be put in prison all together! Seriously, you should be interested in the well-being of someone you love instead of doing literally everything to be noticed by that person.
I feel so bad for the idols… Honestly Korea, you should do something against those kids! At least I know now what to look out for when I’m attending a kpop concert in Korea…
"We expect a more mature fandom culture in the future." Pshh, like that's ever gonna happen, unless there are some serious consequences enforced onto these insane people ( they are NOT fans) for what they do, I don't think it'll stop and instead just get worse.
This is really disturbing. These poor people need some serious therapy because what they're doing is disturbing and obsessive.
This. So much. The way kpop idols interact with their fans are interesting, just looking at the efforts they made to connect with the fans. They talk about personal things quite a lot as well, and just the general approach they take to portray themselves cultivates an illusion of feeling very close to them for the audience in general. This works especially well with teens or those who aren't very independent or mature in their thinking yet and... Also there's no real repercussions.
Seriously as an international fan these girls would get short shift from me if they tried to tag along to get better seats or think I would be grateful to them and pay them for tagging along. No one needs someone like that around them. Trust me an international fan would slap them back much harder, they are so disrespectful!
I have goosebumps... They are really insane...
Wow. This is ... I have no words. How can they be considered fan? They are just just stalkers. And unfortunately I do not think there will ever be an end to sasaeng ... I'm really sorry for our idols...
I remeber when sasaengs crashes exo baekhyun's brother wedding just because exo are there, EXO are really mad at sasaengs and he think its his fault, but its all because of sasaengs!!-_-
chimy chimy wait what? tf they did? i didnt knew about this..! they srsly need to die bro
It's fucking unacceptable to ruin an event for personal gain, a very significant one too - such disrespectful behaviour.. why would your idol be intrested in such disgusting people? :/
Sasaengs aren't fan, NO
You don't go invade someone's private life just to get acknowledged or to have a 'special/memorable connection'
and the taxi drivers should be penalized too. but the thing is that no one even cares about this issue. is stalking even a crime in korea?
mte. If they can't arrest the sasaengs because of their age or because Entertainments don't sue them okay (still awful but okay, I get it at least) but those taxi drivers like seriously, it shouldn't be difficult to sue and arrest them right? I don't know much about laws, especially in Korea, but hey, this can't be legal...
stalking is a 'small' crime anywhere
I think they should rename saesang fans into Stalkers. And even if they are being recognized by the celebrity, the celeb is probably NOT thinking "oh thats the fan that knows me best! I like him/her out of all my fans" but INSTEAD its "thats the stalker that follows my every move. She/he should just mind their own business." GOSH LEAVE THEM ALONE.
omg the part where they say they put u in ur blacklist and can't go in any concerts bc they will find u is freaking scary
5:25 I said "What? Really?" like a billion times. I just had to pause the video to collect my thoughts. I mean I love kpop and the artist but selling your body for them is really extreme. As if sasaengs have a horrible reputation...this is the icing on the cake.
im just glad i live close to LA where fans dont go crazy whenever there is a kpop concert here.
Thank you whoever subbed this. At least we know these ppl know they are being brought to the light.
Sasaengs really have nothing better to do...sad.
instead of interview sasaeng,why not try to catch them and take some actions for what they did?
The idols don't want to because they will feel guilty or look bad if they pressed charges against them, especially the younger ones.
they might need to catch over 99 percent of their fans lol
How could ANYONE hit park yoochun!?!!!????!!!! As "fans" we should LOVE them and SUPPORT them and want only the BEST for them! D:
this is some scary ass shit
REAL FANS RESPECT THEIR PERSONAL SPACE AND KEEP IT IN THEIR HEADS THAT THEY'RE HUMAN TOO!!! DAMMIT SASAENGS MAKE ME MAD ASF
It's so ironic how the sasaengs are running away from the camera, shouting how they don't want to be filmed but at the same time they take pictures and videos of idols whenever and wherever they want to and don't even care if the idol actually wants that. It's also kinda shocking that the sasaeng that's being interviewed here doesn't even feel a little bit bad for her actions and how superior she feels towards "normal fans" like wtf I think they all have some mental problems going on, cause this is not normal thinking and behavior. What I don't understand at all are the parents. They should know about what their children are doing right? If they know they should take action, cause their children can't live like that and they won't have a future if all they do is chase after idols. Skipping or dropping out of school? What are they gonna do when they're adults? Sasaengs need to be stopped on several levels: parents, law, psychologically and from the idol side (or rather Entertainment side). Otherwise I don't see them going away, only getting worse probably.
Well, seems like someone has to die before proper action is taken. And I really hope it won't have to go that far before people wake up and do something.
Sorry for the long rant.
I'm all up for "Fight the bad!" "Create the resistance!!".. but the fan that did the interview said that the sasaeng fans get really aggressive towards the korean normal fans.. so, we can't do anything in that department until quite a few of the calm-unless-provoked fans go and defend and do what's right.. or what's morally correct--according to universal/worldwide standards. No?
TBH this video got me really upset, mad even. I just can't see such a mad obsession happening to that extent. Enough to change an idols attitude towards the fans in general (D.O reference). Goodness, don't even get me started on the recent incidents (Seungri Car accident)
The part that got me really mad is when they took advantage of international fans. Oh my god >:( International fans only get to experience this probably once and they have to go through these annoying saesang fans or whatever
This is ridiculous. Thank you for subbing and posting this!
Kind of sad for sasaengs that they're desperate for their oppas to notice them. I know how it feels but I don't have the nerve to do such things.. e.e I wish I could like start a group the opposite of sasaengs to like protect our oppas from them ;-;
Im curious what happened to this saeseng they interviewed. After all the confessions she told like going inside their dorms, they just let her go? Ok thank you for the interview you can go now, just like that?
This makes me really worried. It's no wonder some groups are more distant with fans than others. I'm being serious when I say these 'fans' need real help. Anyone is able to get obsessed with anything and it's ruining their daily functional life. Don't get me wrong I'm not sympathising with them or anything but for the sake of everyone something should be done... I hope all Idols and celebrities are never harmed because of these 'fans'
The only thing international fans should be grateful is that both sides are in public and this hinders them to tore the sasaengss eyes, thus preventing the police from throwing the intl fans to jail
This is scary. I feel pity towards the idols. We should all respect the artist instead of immaturely attacking them. I really hope fandoms can be more mature in the future. This behavior is just wrong. Let's be good fans together!!
the driver knows exactly where and when the idols/celebrities are, their favourite places, their cars & plate numbers, their activities. and although my korean is very limited, i overheard his conversation on phone with another driver, and fairly understood that the other was telling him about the whereabouts of SuJu members.
This gave me shivers; how creepy can some be? Even 1D fans don't go this far (well I hope not!).
When EXO came to London, a group of girls were following them around and the boys looked harassed.
If I was a taxi driver, I'd drive a sasaeng(s) to the nearest mental health hospital. Thank God anti-stalking laws exists here in the UK.
Not sure whether to 'dislike' because of sasaengs or 'like' because awareness is brought to this issue.
Sasaengs are just like zombies >
once you get infected, you never turn back...
The thing is, the korean law force doesn't seem to take this problem seriously and those celebrities and their companies are too afraid (or maybe for some other reasons) to report these fans. They need to take some real actions in order for this to stop.
Seeing this, it's a good thing that Joon doesn't have twitter and isn't planning to get one. He could be tracked from there. Also now it makes sense how some idols including Joon didn't have a cell phone at some point.
Thank you for this..
theres a person at school like this........they lied and stuff so i stopped talking to them and now they are harassing me on the internet. I wish people wouldnt go to the extreme it would make life so much easier. I hope the idol like kyuhyun when he was in spain will safe and there will be more people to guard them.
Sometimes, I wish my favorite idols would know that I exist... But I would never ever follow them around or invade their lives like that.
Im quite scared now...what if I go to Korea as an international fan and some sasaeng fan starts creeping on me?
I am terrified now. I don't want to go to a concert, US or Korea, and fear for my safety just for cheering for the groups that I like. these people need to get lives.
oh this is scary!! when SMTown concert here in Anaheim took place, i went to the airport to see them like any other fan (also it was my fist k-pop experience and concert) and when SNSD. SuJu, & TVXQ arrived and left, cars pulled up people jumped in and chased after them. it didn't take that long before everyone knew where they were all staying at. like i always say bitches be crazy! and then ripping off and harassing international fans, and i really wanted to go to korea....scary shit!
I'm so sad about this, fans should protect and love their artists ): not scare them and make them life impossible. I wish I could do something about it
..........I can't even
The scary part is, some of these people are beyond OVERLY invested and emotionally attached.
When you get to the point of selling your body just to feed this saesang habit.......
This makes me really fear for the idols. There is no reasoning with them. There is really nothing you can say or do to try and shock them from doing this they're so far gone. And to think of the resources/connections that they have; if idols do try to stand up imagine what they(SF) could do.
That's very disgusting. I once read an article about a girl that sent an idol a letter written by her period blood. Poor idols they must be traumatized by those freaks!
This is quite disturbing to know. I'm a fan but I still know my limits and am aware to give my fave group their space and due respect. Too much of anything can become obsessive and fatal for both parties... sad... :(
I really am surprised these girls HAVEN'T been charged with stalking...im only familiar with US laws but stalking is actually considered a violent act..and it is very much a personal saftey issue for these guys and others around them...not to mention the emotional toll it takes on people...being stalked is a traumatic experience whether you are famous or not...you should be able to sleep at night knowing you're safe..
Celebrities are all servicemen. They provide the service of entertainment for the mass and for themselves. To harass these servicemen is not only disrespectful, but also shows their thoughtlessness. If they "loved" their celebrities, they would be careful to keep them safe and unharmed, not slap them so the celebrity would remember them. They're selfish and cruel. They say that "it's for the sake of such-and-such," what shameless lies. Sasaeng fans need to open their eyes. This is not love.
this program is about korean sasaengs. let ask BBC or other western broadcasting companies to make programs about western sasaengs, or other asian TV channels to inform us about their own sasaengs.
it's korean tv so of course they will tell about their own problem...
Omg thats extreme like crazy and i saw this video an international fan was recording exo and this sasaeng slapped her cell and yelled at her. In the US celebrities throw stalkers in jail. The fact that they have a ring going on is crazy. Im afraid what may happen to a kpop celeb. in the future if its gotten this bad
Now that I think about it...I feel like I'm kind of a secondhand sasaeng fan in a way...if there's a Kpop star I like, it's like I support these sasaeng fans and their work by watching their videos and such... :P oh dear...
this is shocking. i can't even imagine what the idols go through and how they're coping with all these intrusion towards their private lives. these people seriously needs to get a life - as in a real normal life.
If I were to be interviewed as a NORMAL fan in there, I swear I'd tell them what I feel about those so-called SASAENG "fans" or the way I call them "crazy abnormal obsessed freaks".
Those people AREN'T FANS! REAL FANS respect the idols' privacy, not stalk them and even go break into their dorm, or hotel if they're overseas.
I feel sorry for every idol being stalked like this. They don't deserve this kind of treatment!!
And Heechul who recently closed his twitter account because of them... )':
Oh wow, I never saw a follow-up on the incident... I blame the lack of security/staff for not doing their job and making sure no one approached the stage. She didn't press charges?! I think that's probably one of the problems with this sasaeng issue. Idols/celebs are just letting these issues slide. Instead of giving them consequences, they just let them go. They're going to have to do something before it gets any worse. But yeah, these people are more stalkers than fans.
They (company or idols) should call the police or security for the idols, if the sasaengs going over the line. Did they think idols would love them, because they stalk them, hurting their fans and don't give them privacy? They should go to a psychologist, if they think so.
You can't stop them don't you see that? They said they usually go into their houses, read their text messages and feel proud when they know more than regular fans right? So imagine if a idol decides to file charges on one of these super fans, imagine the dirt that this fan has on this idol. If you spend every waking moment stalking someone your going to learn their secrets, that's why they are allowed to do what they want. Cause if you go against them they can ruin you, simply and easily.
Actually to be honest, when Kpop artist comes to Singapore, it's almost the same thing. We(3/5 of fans) wait for them at the airport/hotel for Hours. And then those extreme will book a van to 'stalk them' during their schedule when artist are sightseeing . The only good thing is that there are security at those area and they are staying here for maximum 3-4 days.
Imagine them staying in Singapore for a whole Singapore month, I think Singapore fans will have the same reputation as Sasaeng fans.
I have a feeling that as kpop continues to grow and its international fanbase gets bigger, int. fans and sasaeng fans are going to seriously clash at some point.
they should interview some idols and have them personally say how much they don't appreciate the Sasaeng fans. Maybe that would get them to understand that 'oppa' doesn't like them being stalkers.
o.m.g. this is really, really creepy and worrisome ._____. this is such a huge problem, are there even laws in place specifically for this thing?
Sasengs do come from other Asian countries. Most often Japanese, but Chinese and Philippinas are known as well. They just follow thier oppa around. In fact most sasengs just follow around not doing anything crazier. There used to be a hour long documentary about problems caused just by these benign sasengs but I cannot find it now.
Getting specific job to stalk ur fave celeb is i think genius... They are earning at the same time they can stalk freely without hassle to their faves.
Oh yeah! I remember reading about that. That was crazy; I couldn't believe he did that while they were performing. So, that was a sasaeng fan?
I sure that girl USED to be a sasaeng. There was also an article out and it mentioned that the interviewers got to speak with a girl that used to be a sasaeng.
if they truelly love the star , they should give him/her space and privacy bcuz after all stars r humans like us.
I'm surprised that there wasn't any mentions of any laws that try to protect the celebrities... if there are any at least.
Funny how at 2:50 they say they don't want to be recorded yet they do way worse to their idols.
The reason sasaengs can intimidate normal fans is because they have such strong unity and connections. Normal fans have the numbers, so I personally think that if we worked to look out for and protect each other from these crazy people, they would be the ones that can't touch us.
Becoming a Sasaeng fan is good so you can be recognized by your favourite celebrity? WELL maybe. Cause the celebrity WILL notice you but in a negative way. I say, you should make yourself stand out in a positive way. Maybe giving him/her gifts that are creative and with a lot of effort put into it.
Don't we all? They usually have one person in their group that has a lot of money and plus when they use taxis and stuff they split it so it's not /as/ expensive.
This is really sad, it should exist a procedure for saseng fans, they should go to Jail, I think in other place of the world, this sasaengs fans would be treated as stalkers and celebrities would filed charges against them, I dont know why in Korea is not done that way... anyway, we should always remember this before judging the attitude some idols have when faced with a sasaeng...
you know what though.... tbh if an intl fan got slapped, the best decision at that possible moment would be to keep quiet and leave the situation. The sasaengs are more in number so it would be unwise to react resulting in a bloody battle. Though later on they could register a police complaint or contact the media or smth.
oh god I got goosebumps from watching this. tbh I went to Seoul last summer, and went to Sukira. as usual, program ended at 12am, i was supposed 2 ride taxi to hotel, but accidentally got into a sasaeng taxi. (luckily) I squeezed a few juice from him. then by curiosity, i told him 2 go to SJ dorm, just 2 see it then go back. there, i saw a foreign fan, and happened 2 know that she'd come 2 seoul to follow SJ every single holidays she has. so the local saseangs r at the much higher level...
Suddenly I´m really happy how some kpop groups doesn´t have a cellphone.. They don´t need to be tracked like criminals, when they go out then..
My friend ever got hit by sasaeng sones, it was back then when Sones were in a war with ELF, but my friend apparently liked SNSD, but the sasaengs wouldn't even welcome new fans.
So do I. Wish our Joon doesnt mind this kind of fans. I will do anything to protect him :((
leaving used sanity pads at their door, using their bodies to pay taxi fare? ok this is seriously fucked up!! all of them should be ashamed as humans and more importantly as girls!! no idol would respect or even appreciate you doing all these fucked up things for them!
If a sasaeng fan tries to threaten or intimidate me, I am just going to flat out curse them out. I really don't give a f*ck. Those crazy fans shouldn't be allowed to do that. The idols must feel like they're being harrased or assaulted. I feel very sorry for them. For me, even just a glimpse of my favorite idols is okay for me. But what those sasaengs do, even to the normal fans, are just overboard. They should have a law against that. It's disrespectful.
This actually terrifies me, I only know about Sasaengs because of the stuff happening to exo but OMG how can they be so stupid seriously I am only 14 and I know thats wrong, something needs to be done, I am genuinely terrified for the idols..
So um, I went to Korea for a concert and although I'm Korean, I can't speak it all that well and my grandparents are (not bragging) but "rich" in Korean standards. So, my grandparents live in the same apartment like complex as an idol (will not reveal who) and I was so excited cause I knew who they were! But, I didn't do anything or go over to them because I didn't want to bother them but I got tickets for this idol, and while walking out I was like "I could tell them that I live next to them! That would be kinda creepy tho..." and while waiting a group of girls noticed my American clothing and said hi. I said hi back in Korean but I had an American accent and they immediately knew that I was foreign. They said they were willing to help me out if I just payed for it and because I was so gullible(still am) I agreed. I also told them that I live near the idol and they asked me where I lived, I told them no I didn't want to give that out and one of the girls just slapped me and said "tell me right now" I ran away but they chased after me so I had to hide in a public bathroom. I'm glad I didn't tell them because I really respected that idol
Shit, I'm sorry that happened to you.
They bring shame to even normal fans too. Why bothering about idols private life, if they are in showbiz it doesn't mean they can't do what they want. Fans should control themselves.
They are singer we should only be concerned with the music not what they do back stage or at their houses.
This video actually give me chills.. How idols must have been so scared of them
This is flat out stalking!!! No wonder some idols are afraid to leave their homes.
being a fan is nice BUT being a SASAENG "fans" is toooooo BAD IT IS VERY VERY SUPER BAD! sasaengs should be in jail forever! true fans love and respect their idols especially the idols privacy! sasaengs is like a super crazy person! are they a true fans? because true fans will not do it, so sasaengs should be in jail, they should be punished, and do they even have a parents? because if they have what kind of parents are they? teaching their children a bad manners/attitude? invading persons privacy is a crime!!!!
this is so scary. i understand if you just go to a concert or performance, but following stars around 24/7? what about your own life? don't you want to live it?
Being a sasaeng is a sickness, imo. they are people with obsessive behavior, STALKERS, and need psychiatric help.
Idols and companies really just need to beef of security in every way possible. And that's too bad for normal fans who keep their distance, mind own business. This situation makes the idols scared of everybody.
They ruin the fun for everybody, tbh.
I serously think SK has to take legal actions, if they let it escalate further there are going to be accidents or worse, casulties. If the Kpop stars are being followed of course there'll be an accident sooner or later. Sasaeng fans should be taken to court, I know it's very easy to say but they really should DO something. Don't let them sleep in front of the dorm. Contact taxi companies and talk about it. Just don't be so passive and wait till the bomb explodes, it'll be too late by then o.o
FINALLY MADE THIS A HUGE DEAL
To the SASAENG FANS IF YOU EVER LAY A HAND ON ME OR EVEN THREATEN ME I WILL SET YOU ON FIRE MARK MY WORDS
im not a sasaeng fan i just learned what this is and thoses girls REALLY NEED A LIFE
True, but if they actually received punishmentfor it (either from the government or their parents depending on age) I feel like some reaction should take place and they might begin to understand their behavior. It can have the opposite effect too, because if they are seriously treated each time they cross the line they might stop. Imagine a bullier, s/he will go on until someone sets stop for him/her.
i really don't get why they should threatening other local fans even international fans.
i don't get how they still even PROUD to do those stuff.
and how they prevent normal fans to go to performances with only a blacklist?
everything is so confusing to me..
it disgusting honestly, but at the same time i pity them (sasaengs)..
Why is there no action being taken against this? People are stalking, people are invading privacy, people are getting hurt, FOR GODS SAKE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE PROSTITUTING THEMSELVES.
This needs to be stopped.
They don't like to be recorded? That's ironic, considering how they never stop watching idols, yet they can't even stand to be watched for 2 minutes.
Sasaengs are just scary. They shouldn't be called "fans" because fans are people who support the celebrities and respect their privacy. Prostitution, stalking their every move, skipping school, and leaving used pads outside their door? They are insane! They probably are outcasts and are attention deprived kids- but they need healthier solutions to their problems. Korea should set stricter laws that prevent this..I feel bad for the korean celebrities who get stalked.
srsly, poor idol groups... it makes me speechless...
go off MBLAQ and JYJ, damn...
MBLAQ, JYJ, stay strong...!!!
I don't get it. They get the idol to notice them. Then what?