I think it was amazing that you touched on how common appropriation is. When I went to school in Nigeria we did a class on european artists who had copied west african art and become famous (WVB does take a lot of inspiration from West Africa too and has even admitted to this in interviews). People don't really appreciate the true original artists across the board. It's just who they perceive to be more skilled / better is who they attribute an original design to. Either way, cross-referencing is a thing that occurs more frequently than we would like to think.
kim jones could have copied all of yoon’s accessories, mmw’s buckle design, daniel arsham's ideas, but instead he collaborated with them and gave them a platform on a dior runway meanwhile virgil , literally working for the RICHEST luxury fashion house in the world can't even acknowledge that he got inspiration from walter
good point eagle, Kim Jones makes the collaboration process integral and to say the least it makes the collections where he's inspired feel more authentic or at least feel like they're telling the whole truth.
I really enjoyed this in-depth coldblooded analysis of the situation, but personally I think collection is a rip-off. It would be better if he either collaborated with Beirendock or changed the designs by more than 3 percent, using only the idea of putting stuffed animals on garments. I mean I often see small brands being accused of copying, and there is Virgil with his profound team ripping off designs while having all opportunities and resources to collaborate with the original artist. Seems so unfair.
I think one of the biggest things is that Virigl sells it as original creative design, and unlike fast fashion, we expect LV to make bold and original designs at least for the sake of story telling. He basically has a blank check from LVMH to do just that, but its not Virgil's skills as a exceptionally creative designer that got him this position in the first place and in all likelihood the resources and time is being put into different efforts than just the design process alone.
what youre saying is accurate and fair, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so although theres nothing technically 'wrong' with what virgil does, like you said, its just lazy... and i think the backlash is started by people who truely care about the art of fashion and are bothered by virgils immense lack of effort, and it gets dog-pilled by hypebeast type ppl who hate just hate him
yeah it can get murky in terms of saying why someone is a "bad designer" but as Virgil even admits himself, hes not successful on the merits of his design alone.
Abloh is a businessman, not a creative. a little fashion Elon Musk. the backlash comes from the fact that he has to sell himself as a creative for consistency's sake, but the reality of it is a good look at his design process reveals he's basically outsourcing it to people who get paid way less than he is, or even not at all (that's theft). it is particularly alarming that Louis Vuitton and Abloh as they exist in the public eye in this moment can do so in the Paris fashion world, which was probably the fashion capital the further away from this kind of grift a couple decades ago. he's symbolic of a shift of the fashion world into the completely hyperreal quite at the opposite of dadaism
Technically, Chuck Berry got "the sound he was looking for" from Marty mcfly during the enchantment under the sea dance and like Nagato said Elvis got his moves watching young forest gump dance
Something interesting that ties into your theory of 'reverse appropriation' is that Van Beirendonck is often very explicitly inspired by indigenous African and Polynesian cultures. For instance, the opening look of SS19 (Wild is the Wind) includes an avatar attached to a vest which is quite clearly inspired by indigenous art - much like how Abloh's show features an avatar attached to a coat which is quite clearly inspired by Van Beirendonck.
thats really interesting and its not something I covered in the video. It goes without saying humans are deeply inspired by one another, we stand on the shoulders of so many cultures built on top of the next and its a positive thing to share ideas and be inspired - but it looks cruel and insensitive when people in privilege pull from cultures of oppressed people who rarely had the real opportunity to, say, become a modern day fashion designer.
Thank you for making a video and discuss these important on-going issues from a rational standpoint. I was once taking a work training with the Indigenous Friendship centre here in Toronto, and the mentor of the class brought up a good point regarding the difference between cultural exchange and cultural theft/appropriation. A core difference between cultural exchange and cultural theft is, whether the intention behind the act is meant for building a symbiotic, meaningful relationship, which can mutually benefit both parties in the long run. In the context of LV SS 2021, Beirendonck made a good point when he suggested that instead of copying his signature style without permission and consultation, Virgil and LV should have reach out for an collaboration.
thats really interesting Eric and it makes a lot of sense. I'm sure we can't always know whether an artist has the intent of building a meaningful relationship but In circumstances like this 1 we can guess at least that it doesn't seem like that was the intent.
Hello Christian once again, awesome video. Its great to hear an alternative perspective on the situation, though we still cannot ignore the fact that what he did is almost undoubtedly pure plagiarism. His 3% philosophy while interesting, does not (imo) provide him with an excuse to overdo his 'copying' of the past work of famous artists. To me, Virgil's 'message' directed to the youth on the exploitation of others for the sake of commercial success (while it may be a genius move), goes against the value of originality and is morally unsound especially in the field of fashion. Nonetheless, if he was truly appropriating/paying homage to Beirendonck's work, a message or note explaining (or implying) his artistic decision prior to the show might be a wiser move to avoid misunderstanding amongst the viewers.
I agree, it's plagiarism and his success up to this point only makes it more troubling the question of who we give credit to in creative fields and who "really deserves it" especially in big huge team projects like designing collections where we often think of the creative director as the singular genius
One thing is taking another artist idea and elevating it with your vision, another thing is being accused of ripping off smaller artists multiple times in his career. Maybe he can’t really do that 3% thing (even if it’s an interesting idea) and at this point it’s just an excuse to mask unoriginal ideas with an artsy philosophy
I think 3% can be original if he did not copy other artist but remix what he has like he done with nike’s shoe not copy other artist’s work and make them your.
This video is one of your best. The goofing around made the point but kept it really entertaining and you gave a full analysis of the situation without dragging it out also.
Thank you HFT! I really try not to drag it out too long and I often write a lot of notes that end up left on the cutting board simply bc of how snappy you need to be with video (compared to writing)
You can't use the oh we came from Chicago as an excuse to do whatever you want. You're friends with Kayne, work at LV and are pretty famous, it's not like you're the underdog fighting an elitist designer. In the past it was only high street brands like H&M and Zara etc that would literally go to fashion shows and take ideas for their collections a season or two later. But now Virgil is doing the exact same thing, but at the top of the game. It's demotivating for designers because they have no way to copyright their style or ideas, and they don't make any royalties when other brands steal their designs. He's turning Lv into a caricature, lost all it's class.
i agree that it's jarring to see something so obviously a copy at the biggest luxury house (With some of the highest prices and quality for their garments) I think honestly if people had to work twice as hard to get to a position of privilege they should set a virtuous example so others can meet them at the top. Then again, I think that might be the point
F virgil! He's not taking a reference from another context and modifyng it! He's just stealing concepts from other clothing designers(like Raf nebraska and WVB). It's different from getting inspiration from another form of art, like a paint or architecture, and molding it into clothes.
You really did a nice video and taking the perspective that almost all artists copy and is something acceptable for some people but others not . At my way too see it, copying is normal some times is good becuase you get people a new perspective on obscure stuff and as you said Virgil is not know for making ground breaking new ideas and thats actually acceptable . Just have fun with fashion
I would say that its ok for all artists to "steal" but they way they do it, and how they pay tribute to their source of inspiration really matters. We will always be influenced by people who came before us and inspirations we're not conscious of
There was a woman selling her embroidery in tortilla holders with her baby in her back. Colorful flowers and animals along with mayan symbols., minutes later a woman showed up and bought her everything and I tought wow cool! Days passed and I saw in fb marketplace someone selling her work with a price tag and a madeup brand. She was selling each piece $50.00 pesos, the fb one was selling them at $250.00 pesos. Cultural appropiation in my own country? Yes Yesterday a friend posted a video of Madonna (Bedtime Story) praising the director, when in reality the whole concept or idea came from Remedios Varo's paintings. Almost nobody knows her artwork (My friend didnt) But cultural appropiation or not they keep selling without giving credit where is due, at this point that could be a strategic move ("Bad publicity is good publicity")
Reminds me of when Lindsay Ellis said "we need more women CEOs", in this case its POC fashion creative directors who will do the same shitty things as their white counterparts.
I think people are really getting caught up in the WVB situation, but it's important to continue asking whether, assuming for the sake of argument that WVB didn't exist, any of this collection is well designed. I would argue not, citing the following: The tailoring is uninspired and pieces like the double breasted topcoat in look 19 are less wearable versions of menswear staples. The bunched up pants look like something Bari made for VLONE about three years ago. A few of the looks appear as though Virgil had his staff copy one of Demna's patterns, but even then the oversized shoulder motif does not extend throughout the collection and feels like a cherry-picked concept. The paneled construction of the mac coat in look 20 looks a lot like something Kiko might do, but also isn't a theme continued in any other looks. The proportions in looks 22, 40, and others make the models look deformed and the suiting is generally extremely unflattering, without being particular interesting from a construction perspective. I could go on...
Thank you! The collection was really unflattering with awkward proportions. Beyond the debate about virgil's con-artistry, he has a really weak sartorial proposition through out his entire career.
I think that's a fair point to make, not to get too caught up in the controversy which can be just as valuable for a collection like this since people are now talking about it. I guess as WVB said all designers will copy to some degree but it's not 100% clear or visible what Virgil's signature style is in terms of how the garments are designed and constructed.
@@BraveNewWear And since it was done already in the film PRET A PORTER should be easy enough for him to copy and pull out his 3% rule...'they're not nude...they have band aids that say VA was here'.
You do such a great job speaking objectively! I wish more people could do that including myself. Personally I think his 3% philosophy is dope and really interesting. I think it works really well in most cases like the 10 Nike collection but maybe not so much here since it just comes off as plagiarism.. but tbh I’ve never heard of WVB until this and I know most people didn’t either so maybe this did him a favor🤷♂️
Brave New Wear it’s honestly probably the light. It’s not dark but dark enough where the light doesn’t feel very bright. “The light loves me and I love the light!”
Yes creation appropriations are common however Virgil actually has started to “appropriated” others since 2019, and never collaborated (at least for Luis Vuitton)
I don't know why people are so against ripping off in fashion. When I was in fashion graduate school, they literally told us to rip off other designers in order to design, so I don't know why people are so against it.
This is one of those topics where its super hard to even develop an opinion because appropriation can go many different directions and who are we to say if its justified?
I agree Trey its like...where really is the line. If we try to stop everyone from being "inspired" or accidentally appropriating we're reducing culture but if we don't step in when people of privilege continue to steal from other creatives the culture will become stale.
Truthfully I don’t understand why people are in the comments disrespecting Virgil. Have your own opinion based on facts and stop letting fashion blogs contribute to your spite of another person.
Whether it’s intentional or not. I just find him boring. I don’t need a fashion designer to do this kind of stunt to “teach” the world a lesson. If so. He is taking himself too seriously, which I hate more than him just being a dumb person copying other people’s work.
I mean teaching the world a lesson without saying it and let everyone guess. 🙄 if that’s really his intention which I highly doubt. Don’t think he is that intelligent. Just look at the people that are wearing off-white LOL.
Re: The genius of Abloh, in my opinion, Abloh is no genius. In this industry, I can't really remember anything he's done that is groundbreaking, awe-inspiring, or uses fashion to make a statement around culture and society that's impactful. Who are the geniuses: Van Herpen is doing great things with fabrics and creating new forms, McQueen was making statements around culture and society and producing work that made your jaw drop. Robert Wun, a new designer out of CSM, is pushing boundaries and captures the essence of futurism in his work. I could go on. All of this to say, Abloh is no genius + he has allegations of stealing other people's work. To end, these are my opinions only. I think there is place for Abloh in fashion, it's just unfortunate that we use words to talk about him in a way that is not justified or deserving. By saying he is a genius, it muddies the waters for those people who should be recognized as geniuses.
@@arceustheo I agree with Re: big ups to his influence. His life and death now signal to other black and brown people that they can not only be part of fashion, but can also be the decision maker or creative director of large fashion brands. That said, I don't want to forget that Olivier Rousteing has been creative director over at Balmain since 2011. But, I think the difference between the two (Abloh and Rousteing) is Abloh was very vocal about mentoring and giving back to the community.
I feel like off white's ethos is -like others have noted about his work before- very much in the dadaism/anti-art/meta art ethos. "its art because I say it is" sorta vibe to the designs. This leads to "unoriginal"(by design and also coincidence) pieces. Its sort of too good at what its trying to do that it accidently (maybe purposefully) is nothing new and appropriation. You have original ideas like taking construction and packaging iconography and incorporating that as the graphics for the pieces.... aaaaand you have blatant ripping off of other artists.
So what you are saying in a way is to encourage the stealing of ideas and designs because in the past someone else did that? The idea, in my opinion, is to BE INSPIRED BY SOMETHING AND CREATE SOMETHING NEW from it NOT STEALING IT. Stealing leads to nothing new. Stealing leads only to mediocrity and involution. Let's not encourage that. Please... Let's not leave people like Virgil Abloh decide a mediocre future for us and the next generations.
Lol Virgil had denied the “allegations” and claims to reference an earlier LV show that had a single stuffed animal as a prop. The conversation about power and appropriation is needed but your attributing these thoughts to someone who clearly doesnt understand the art references he uses and has provided a statement about this show that doesn’t match at all the meat of this video.
I think it was amazing that you touched on how common appropriation is. When I went to school in Nigeria we did a class on european artists who had copied west african art and become famous (WVB does take a lot of inspiration from West Africa too and has even admitted to this in interviews). People don't really appreciate the true original artists across the board. It's just who they perceive to be more skilled / better is who they attribute an original design to. Either way, cross-referencing is a thing that occurs more frequently than we would like to think.
aint you trying to protect the Virgil, like some Bliss
Ái Lê don’t diss my boi bliss😡
Ái Lê didn’t even mention Virgil in my comment at all. Was talking about what generally happens in art and fashion. Food for thought.
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ethan christe whoooooo boy are you in for a surprise
kim jones could have copied all of yoon’s accessories, mmw’s buckle design, daniel arsham's ideas, but instead he collaborated with them and gave them a platform on a dior runway
meanwhile virgil , literally working for the RICHEST luxury fashion house in the world can't even acknowledge that he got inspiration from walter
good point eagle, Kim Jones makes the collaboration process integral and to say the least it makes the collections where he's inspired feel more authentic or at least feel like they're telling the whole truth.
Kim Jones is really street considering his emphasis on collab pieces. Virgil just steals
The wassily chair line got me good, I hope virgil lets you out soon.
me too dude, if we can just get Raf to say Virgil is lit then they'll let me go. They're also willing to do a prisoner exchange
I really enjoyed this in-depth coldblooded analysis of the situation, but personally I think collection is a rip-off. It would be better if he either collaborated with Beirendock or changed the designs by more than 3 percent, using only the idea of putting stuffed animals on garments. I mean I often see small brands being accused of copying, and there is Virgil with his profound team ripping off designs while having all opportunities and resources to collaborate with the original artist. Seems so unfair.
I think one of the biggest things is that Virigl sells it as original creative design, and unlike fast fashion, we expect LV to make bold and original designs at least for the sake of story telling. He basically has a blank check from LVMH to do just that, but its not Virgil's skills as a exceptionally creative designer that got him this position in the first place and in all likelihood the resources and time is being put into different efforts than just the design process alone.
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what youre saying is accurate and fair, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so although theres nothing technically 'wrong' with what virgil does, like you said, its just lazy... and i think the backlash is started by people who truely care about the art of fashion and are bothered by virgils immense lack of effort, and it gets dog-pilled by hypebeast type ppl who hate just hate him
yeah it can get murky in terms of saying why someone is a "bad designer" but as Virgil even admits himself, hes not successful on the merits of his design alone.
He’s a bad designer cause he doesn’t even design cause he just steals and changes it a little
Abloh is a businessman, not a creative. a little fashion Elon Musk. the backlash comes from the fact that he has to sell himself as a creative for consistency's sake, but the reality of it is a good look at his design process reveals he's basically outsourcing it to people who get paid way less than he is, or even not at all (that's theft). it is particularly alarming that Louis Vuitton and Abloh as they exist in the public eye in this moment can do so in the Paris fashion world, which was probably the fashion capital the further away from this kind of grift a couple decades ago. he's symbolic of a shift of the fashion world into the completely hyperreal quite at the opposite of dadaism
This video is so good, thank you for making this. Also, I never actually realised Elvis got his moves from Chuck Berry 🤔
think the music industry is bad now u wouldnt believe the shit going on back then
No!?? Elvis got his moves from Forest Gump!!
Nagato lmao you’re a genius for commenting that. Forrest Gump is my favourite movie
Technically, Chuck Berry got "the sound he was looking for" from Marty mcfly during the enchantment under the sea dance and like Nagato said Elvis got his moves watching young forest gump dance
Can you change LV designs by 3% only and not have them sue you?
I often think that Virgil hate is hype, but it's undeniable they should have just collaborated Virgil -Virgil on this one...
Something interesting that ties into your theory of 'reverse appropriation' is that Van Beirendonck is often very explicitly inspired by indigenous African and Polynesian cultures. For instance, the opening look of SS19 (Wild is the Wind) includes an avatar attached to a vest which is quite clearly inspired by indigenous art - much like how Abloh's show features an avatar attached to a coat which is quite clearly inspired by Van Beirendonck.
thats really interesting and its not something I covered in the video. It goes without saying humans are deeply inspired by one another, we stand on the shoulders of so many cultures built on top of the next and its a positive thing to share ideas and be inspired - but it looks cruel and insensitive when people in privilege pull from cultures of oppressed people who rarely had the real opportunity to, say, become a modern day fashion designer.
Thank you for making a video and discuss these important on-going issues from a rational standpoint. I was once taking a work training with the Indigenous Friendship centre here in Toronto, and the mentor of the class brought up a good point regarding the difference between cultural exchange and cultural theft/appropriation. A core difference between cultural exchange and cultural theft is, whether the intention behind the act is meant for building a symbiotic, meaningful relationship, which can mutually benefit both parties in the long run. In the context of LV SS 2021, Beirendonck made a good point when he suggested that instead of copying his signature style without permission and consultation, Virgil and LV should have reach out for an collaboration.
thats really interesting Eric and it makes a lot of sense. I'm sure we can't always know whether an artist has the intent of building a meaningful relationship but In circumstances like this 1 we can guess at least that it doesn't seem like that was the intent.
Hello Christian once again, awesome video. Its great to hear an alternative perspective on the situation, though we still cannot ignore the fact that what he did is almost undoubtedly pure plagiarism. His 3% philosophy while interesting, does not (imo) provide him with an excuse to overdo his 'copying' of the past work of famous artists. To me, Virgil's 'message' directed to the youth on the exploitation of others for the sake of commercial success (while it may be a genius move), goes against the value of originality and is morally unsound especially in the field of fashion. Nonetheless, if he was truly appropriating/paying homage to Beirendonck's work, a message or note explaining (or implying) his artistic decision prior to the show might be a wiser move to avoid misunderstanding amongst the viewers.
I agree, it's plagiarism and his success up to this point only makes it more troubling the question of who we give credit to in creative fields and who "really deserves it" especially in big huge team projects like designing collections where we often think of the creative director as the singular genius
That intro what makes ur channel special!! Love this. Keep it up 🔥🔥
thank u big lobster!
One thing is taking another artist idea and elevating it with your vision, another thing is being accused of ripping off smaller artists multiple times in his career. Maybe he can’t really do that 3% thing (even if it’s an interesting idea) and at this point it’s just an excuse to mask unoriginal ideas with an artsy philosophy
I think 3% can be original if he did not copy other artist but remix what he has like he done with nike’s shoe not copy other artist’s work and make them your.
This video is one of your best. The goofing around made the point but kept it really entertaining and you gave a full analysis of the situation without dragging it out also.
Thank you HFT! I really try not to drag it out too long and I often write a lot of notes that end up left on the cutting board simply bc of how snappy you need to be with video (compared to writing)
I love how you make a different point on very controversial thing that most people disagree like this one and the Celine Collection.
lol I suppose sometimes Im the devils advocate >:)
How are you not working for a publication yet, this is such a fresh take🤯 thank you for your service 🤝
im too CONTROVERSIAL they don't keep me around for long 😏
I really enjoyed this video:) What a missed opportunity for a collaboration between Beirendonck and LV!
Don’t worry bro we’ll get you out of there.
thank u chris all they are feeding me are french cigarettes and macarons idk how long I can survive
You can't use the oh we came from Chicago as an excuse to do whatever you want. You're friends with Kayne, work at LV and are pretty famous, it's not like you're the underdog fighting an elitist designer. In the past it was only high street brands like H&M and Zara etc that would literally go to fashion shows and take ideas for their collections a season or two later. But now Virgil is doing the exact same thing, but at the top of the game. It's demotivating for designers because they have no way to copyright their style or ideas, and they don't make any royalties when other brands steal their designs. He's turning Lv into a caricature, lost all it's class.
fax what a clown
Facts! Imo even Kim over at Dior's pace is slowing from where he started. Keep street-wear out of high fashion!
i agree that it's jarring to see something so obviously a copy at the biggest luxury house (With some of the highest prices and quality for their garments) I think honestly if people had to work twice as hard to get to a position of privilege they should set a virtuous example so others can meet them at the top. Then again, I think that might be the point
F virgil! He's not taking a reference from another context and modifyng it! He's just stealing concepts from other clothing designers(like Raf nebraska and WVB). It's different from getting inspiration from another form of art, like a paint or architecture, and molding it into clothes.
i love how you made the chair an extension of you personality
bc if you don't have a personality, at least you can buy things :)
I had no idea about this, I'm glad I found your video because I credited Virgil for the designs
You really did a nice video and taking the perspective that almost all artists copy and is something acceptable for some people but others not . At my way too see it, copying is normal some times is good becuase you get people a new perspective on obscure stuff and as you said Virgil is not know for making ground breaking new ideas and thats actually acceptable . Just have fun with fashion
I would say that its ok for all artists to "steal" but they way they do it, and how they pay tribute to their source of inspiration really matters. We will always be influenced by people who came before us and inspirations we're not conscious of
Spot on analysis. It really captures how I feel as well.
dope dude glad we can be on the same page
There was a woman selling her embroidery in tortilla holders with her baby in her back. Colorful flowers and animals along with mayan symbols., minutes later a woman showed up and bought her everything and I tought wow cool!
Days passed and I saw in fb marketplace someone selling her work with a price tag and a madeup brand.
She was selling each piece $50.00 pesos, the fb one was selling them at $250.00 pesos.
Cultural appropiation in my own country?
Yes
Yesterday a friend posted a video of Madonna (Bedtime Story) praising the director, when in reality the whole concept or idea came from Remedios Varo's paintings.
Almost nobody knows her artwork (My friend didnt)
But cultural appropiation or not they keep selling without giving credit where is due, at this point that could be a strategic move ("Bad publicity is good publicity")
Reminds me of when Lindsay Ellis said "we need more women CEOs", in this case its POC fashion creative directors who will do the same shitty things as their white counterparts.
I think people are really getting caught up in the WVB situation, but it's important to continue asking whether, assuming for the sake of argument that WVB didn't exist, any of this collection is well designed. I would argue not, citing the following: The tailoring is uninspired and pieces like the double breasted topcoat in look 19 are less wearable versions of menswear staples. The bunched up pants look like something Bari made for VLONE about three years ago. A few of the looks appear as though Virgil had his staff copy one of Demna's patterns, but even then the oversized shoulder motif does not extend throughout the collection and feels like a cherry-picked concept. The paneled construction of the mac coat in look 20 looks a lot like something Kiko might do, but also isn't a theme continued in any other looks. The proportions in looks 22, 40, and others make the models look deformed and the suiting is generally extremely unflattering, without being particular interesting from a construction perspective. I could go on...
Thank you! The collection was really unflattering with awkward proportions. Beyond the debate about virgil's con-artistry, he has a really weak sartorial proposition through out his entire career.
I think that's a fair point to make, not to get too caught up in the controversy which can be just as valuable for a collection like this since people are now talking about it. I guess as WVB said all designers will copy to some degree but it's not 100% clear or visible what Virgil's signature style is in terms of how the garments are designed and constructed.
CS - you are not an idiot, this was thorough and great
Thank you Toby I do need that kind of affirmation that I'm not actually an idiot now and again
love the magic reference....
I've never thought bald Steve Buscemi would lecture me on Virgil Abloh's ripoffs
beloved character actor, 911 first responder and high fashion critic, steve buscemi is a national treasure
Totally on point regarding Duchamp.
hey thank you Stephan glad to add a little context
I see this message as "leaders follow leaders"
Just started the video, but the title alone is a super spicy hot take 👀
almost 2 spicy 2 be true
one of the best videos you ve put out. thank you
i guess you produce your best work under pressure 😅
Putting the brave in the brave new wear
really trying to stay brave while under the oppressive, high fashion luxury standards of my captors
Three percent is very significant...💯✔
Awesome insightful video! Virgil is playing 4D chess
playing 4d chess in a 2d world thats stuck in a time warp
Virgil straight up copied, end of story. no excuses
did u watch the video?
wonderful video. those views are looking good! hope it blows up more.
The genius of you creating this is astronomical
i mean thats probably TOO much of a compliment but I appreciate it Day :)
the title alone is an instant like and subscribe
Let's be real the Emperor has no clothes.
thats virgils next collection - naked models. If you don't get it, it means ur not sophisticated
@@BraveNewWear And since it was done already in the film PRET A PORTER should be easy enough for him to copy and pull out his 3% rule...'they're not nude...they have band aids that say VA was here'.
Virgil is a very very lucky man
You do such a great job speaking objectively! I wish more people could do that including myself. Personally I think his 3% philosophy is dope and really interesting. I think it works really well in most cases like the 10 Nike collection but maybe not so much here since it just comes off as plagiarism.. but tbh I’ve never heard of WVB until this and I know most people didn’t either so maybe this did him a favor🤷♂️
well, I guess any press is good press but considering WVB is the head of fashion at the Royal Antwerp Academy hes not exactly a nobody
This analysis is..... very impressive. Thank you for this.
THANK YOU!!!! FINALLY, someone speaking the TRUTH about this fraud.
Pewds just called tabi's "Martin Margnieras" on his latest video:`(
What a legend
man I humbly ask if you've ever used forehead yoga?
why does it look like i have wrinkles???
Brave New Wear it’s honestly probably the light. It’s not dark but dark enough where the light doesn’t feel very bright. “The light loves me and I love the light!”
Yes creation appropriations are common however Virgil actually has started to “appropriated” others since 2019, and never collaborated (at least for Luis Vuitton)
I don't know why people are so against ripping off in fashion. When I was in fashion graduate school, they literally told us to rip off other designers in order to design, so I don't know why people are so against it.
😂🤮🤢
Your content is spectacular!
Save steve Buscemi
someone get on tee spring and start handing out the t shirts
lol the video title is amazing
I was able to type in that last part while my captors weren't looking
Actually changing something 3% can be huge, if I changed 10% of your DNA you would be a cucumber, with 3% maybe a dog or something
I guess theres a lot going on with DNA if so little change can mean the difference between me and a vegetable
This is one of those topics where its super hard to even develop an opinion because appropriation can go many different directions and who are we to say if its justified?
I agree Trey its like...where really is the line. If we try to stop everyone from being "inspired" or accidentally appropriating we're reducing culture but if we don't step in when people of privilege continue to steal from other creatives the culture will become stale.
Truthfully I don’t understand why people are in the comments disrespecting Virgil. Have your own opinion based on facts and stop letting fashion blogs contribute to your spite of another person.
lol Picasso is no saint. he appropriated that african cubism as well
See u got a new cut. Going to LV Boot camp to learn how to use the 3% method effectively.
They spend 16 hours a day on LV reconditioning and now I can see the signature monogram even when i close my eyes
Brave New Wear lmaoo a never ending LV trip😂, Must be rather pleasin tho lookin at Takashi’s logo float around
I love this video and your interpretation
Long live walter van beirendonck
Brilliant video and commentary!
I like ya cut G
thank u Dylan I'm enjoying the new look
Loved this video!!!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
thank you Ciera!
Whether it’s intentional or not. I just find him boring. I don’t need a fashion designer to do this kind of stunt to “teach” the world a lesson. If so. He is taking himself too seriously, which I hate more than him just being a dumb person copying other people’s work.
I mean teaching the world a lesson without saying it and let everyone guess. 🙄 if that’s really his intention which I highly doubt. Don’t think he is that intelligent. Just look at the people that are wearing off-white LOL.
good video, good perspective, love the picasso inclusion
can help myself sometimes, I made Charles Dickens inclusions as well but you've got to cut it down at some point.
I think virgil wanted to make the same as walter
Virgil is a curator rather a creative designer.
Excellent video, appropriation is part of the industry as far as I can see. Designers travel to see what is out there, and put their spin on it.
Re: The genius of Abloh, in my opinion, Abloh is no genius. In this industry, I can't really remember anything he's done that is groundbreaking, awe-inspiring, or uses fashion to make a statement around culture and society that's impactful. Who are the geniuses: Van Herpen is doing great things with fabrics and creating new forms, McQueen was making statements around culture and society and producing work that made your jaw drop. Robert Wun, a new designer out of CSM, is pushing boundaries and captures the essence of futurism in his work. I could go on. All of this to say, Abloh is no genius + he has allegations of stealing other people's work. To end, these are my opinions only. I think there is place for Abloh in fashion, it's just unfortunate that we use words to talk about him in a way that is not justified or deserving. By saying he is a genius, it muddies the waters for those people who should be recognized as geniuses.
I agree that he's not a genius. Big ups to his influence tho. The real genius is Kanye West
@@arceustheo I agree with Re: big ups to his influence. His life and death now signal to other black and brown people that they can not only be part of fashion, but can also be the decision maker or creative director of large fashion brands. That said, I don't want to forget that Olivier Rousteing has been creative director over at Balmain since 2011. But, I think the difference between the two (Abloh and Rousteing) is Abloh was very vocal about mentoring and giving back to the community.
The only original thing of this video is his effort to provide black is actually white , not bad if you are pumpik or a cucumber ...
Virgils is wack and I’m glad he’s being exposed
I feel like off white's ethos is -like others have noted about his work before- very much in the dadaism/anti-art/meta art ethos. "its art because I say it is" sorta vibe to the designs. This leads to "unoriginal"(by design and also coincidence) pieces. Its sort of too good at what its trying to do that it accidently (maybe purposefully) is nothing new and appropriation. You have original ideas like taking construction and packaging iconography and incorporating that as the graphics for the pieces.... aaaaand you have blatant ripping off of other artists.
Awesome video
Fun intro man!!
Mind blown 🤯
Your IG handle and the link don’t match
I hope your captors set you free
same here dude we just got to meet their demands and get Raf to publicly say Virgil is lit
Nothing created is/was/will be new.
hes a created creature
Great video keep it up
that's a decent magic card
Where are you
I'm totally a Coachella girl who wears native American head dress 🥵
listen if you keep disrespecting the indigenous american culture like that ancient spirits are going to come to haunt you
Are u native American?
Bravo!!!!!👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿
Great analysis.
U got me to suscribe
great video!
So what you are saying in a way is to encourage the stealing of ideas and designs because in the past someone else did that? The idea, in my opinion, is to BE INSPIRED BY SOMETHING AND CREATE SOMETHING NEW from it NOT STEALING IT. Stealing leads to nothing new. Stealing leads only to mediocrity and involution. Let's not encourage that. Please... Let's not leave people like Virgil Abloh decide a mediocre future for us and the next generations.
Lol Virgil had denied the “allegations” and claims to reference an earlier LV show that had a single stuffed animal as a prop.
The conversation about power and appropriation is needed but your attributing these thoughts to someone who clearly doesnt understand the art references he uses and has provided a statement about this show that doesn’t match at all the meat of this video.
Amazing
Hahaha the title
cool video!!!
Bro such a good fucking video
Quality content here 👌
“Copy cat”
Y is this vid posted at midnight LMAO
Time zones my g
copied so many designers work. This is not inspiration. Stealing!! No brain!
Virgil's style.is steal and cheap (materials )
lov it