Another black girl here. Totally agreed. I'm calling the bride the AH for telling her to tan before the wedding though lol I'm thinking if she told ALL the bridesmaids to tan, OP wouldn't have mentioned it.
@@shahana_styleCould be that the bride did tell everyone, but OP brought it up because she feels it further supports her stance that it’s racist. She didn’t explicitly say she was the only one who was told to tan, which I feel she would have if that was the case. But I guess we’ll never know, lol.
I think the problem might be that there are like 20ish Disney princesses and only one black one. It shouldn't be a big deal but unfortunately, it is and I think she did the right thing to avoid the headache that will inevitably come from dressing as Tiana. I do cosplay and every single time I put on a non-black character I get bombarded both in person and online that I'm not allowed to do it because "that character isn't black so you just make them look ugly." I don't give a shit because I'm late 30s and all my insecurities are family-related and non-family doesn't mean anything to me. But she sounds younger and the hate you get can be harmful
Man everyone is talking about the disney dress story but come on THE ONE ABOUT THE GUY FAT SHAMING HIS FRIEND FOR HER THINKING HE WAS INTO HER IS SO FUCKING UPSETTING IM FUMING
So, as a Cosplayer, I can tell you that the Tiana dress… Oddly enough is a huge subject of debate in certain areas of my calls, play world. I have had the sweetest, kindest, and honestly mixed race friend, make the Tiana dress before. But because she is incredibly pale and white passing, certain sections of the Internet made damn sure to make her feel bad simply for wearing a dress that was “made for an African American character”. She never posted the photos or wore the dress that she made herself ever again. I personally do not agree with that decision, because it feels again like the “false Wackness”, but I’m just here to say that it is a very very divided issue across the board.
I agree. Very divisive. I don’t have a problem with it as long as she isn’t doing black face. But I could see someone getting angry, since the lack representation means less characters for POC, and that is valid. I think the bride shouldn’t be making her friend do something she is uncomfortable with, especially when she is going to opening her self up for criticism, for a something she doesn’t agree with in the first place.
It's funny because I my experience it's usually a person that's not the race of whatever is being discussed going the HARDEST. Fake wokeness indeed. Tianas a princess and anyone can be a princess. Just don't do blackface... Not hard🤷🏾♀️
@@belizelover21That part. But I couldn’t tell if she was worried about appropriation or if she just didn’t want to be the black princess. Something about the language she used all throughout made me think that it was less about a fear of causing offense, and more about her *being* offended at the idea of being asked to dress as Tiana. Like having anything related to blackness that close to her, is what was bothering her.
31:15 John’s reaction when dude says “look at you” is perfection. I don’t think this guy is just “naturally affectionate with everyone,” I think he’s one of those people that gets off on having a harem of women around him that he know have intense feelings for him that he will never reciprocate. He likes feeling like he’s out of their league and he does enough to stoke the fire and keep their interest in him (and off of anyone else) and make them feel like he’s interested as well, but has to also make sure they know that they can’t ever live up to his expectations.
i came late to the party but i came here to say HOLY SHIT THE GASLIGHTING OF THAT GUY AND HIS FRIENDS TO TINA ("kill them kill them all" has me weak 🤣)
Right!!! He definitely knew what he was doing. His fake and feigned surprise at her reaction is deplorable. I suspect he knew exactly what he was doing the entire time. He seemed to have wanted an opportunity to put her down and I'm sure he was overjoyed when she fell for the bait. That is what I heard through his story telling. I wouldn't doubt it if he and that pathetic friend of his planned this in some way. Either way, horrible people. Btw, 5'3" 145 lbs is not overweight.
26:32 I actually understand the sentiment of the woman who didn't want to dress up as Tiana. Black representation is so scarse, and it seems like she legit didn't want there to be a chance that she could step on anyone's toes. White Knighting? ABSOLUTELY. But her heart is in the right place. Honestly, I can respect that.
I was thinking the same. Like I would never be comfortable dressing up as a non-white princess because those characters are not mine to represent. There are so many other white princesses to choose from. NTA
I don't think it was white knighting at all. She very rightfully was afraid of the internet tearing her apart for the rest of her life if the wedding photos and program listing her as Tiana were to go viral for any reason. Like, people get sent death threats for stuff like that.
@@yoyohaylialright I agreed with you till you sounded sad for people being racist lol ☠️ I've experienced death threats for existing on the internet if someone makes the decision to be racist that's a whole nother rodeo
Plenty diff people wear white princesses... im latina and never got a latina princess what then? Its a costume... its meant to be someone you're not...same as acting.
To me, it sounds like the bride went with Tiana because OP has black hair. She could have picked other Jasmine or Snow White. And yes, I know Jasmine isn't white, however I haven't really seen any outrage over white kids/adults dressing as her.
I mean i feel like in story 2, the OP expressed that she wasnt comfortable with it. And in the end, she is the only person being asked to dress up as a princess with a different race. So i feel like its easy for the bride and the rest of the people to say that she should just go ahead, when shes the one who has to potentially deal with the repercussions of that. And for some reason, i highly doubt they would stick up for her (saying she was expressedly asked to dress as this princess for example) if things got nasty online just based off how blasé they were about the whole thing
I'd be uncomfortable cosplaying a black character, too. There's MULTIPLE people on Tiktok who are harassed DAILY for cosplaying characters that aren't the same race, plus the fact that black representation is already so scarce - I wouldn't want to do it either. Willingly throwing myself to the sharks? I'd much rather avoid the drama and go as something that makes me feel more comfortable, and if my friend can't understand that, I don't think they'd be my friend.
God the story about op and his friend made me so sad, a lot of us plus size girls can relate to having a guy be into us in private but they dont want to be judged by their friends for their preferences so they act completely different in public. I hope she finds someone who sees how beautiful she is. Also for fucks sake 5'3" and 143lbs is a completely average size for women in the 21st centur
That story made me angry, especially as a fat guy who prefers his women thick. That guy is a fat phobic piece of shit, and his friends are even worse. I'm kind of glad she dropped their asses.
I’ve been big my whole life and never had this issue. Have a spine and break up with someone if they pull that, you’ll find better guys just because you stand up for yourself
In regards to story 3, I’m just confused as to how 5’3” & 140 lbs is considered overweight 😳 I would love to know his weight/height, just for reference, ya know…🧐
@@ladosis5596 This. 💯 Also, BMI does not take into account things like muscle mass, a larger chest or bone structure (like having naturally wider hips). It’s a flawed way to gauge health or whether someone is overweight.
OP on Story three. Not only doesn’t understand girls, he also doesn’t understand honesty. Because he’s totally into Tina, and to chickenshit to own it. Especially in front of his boy friends. It takes a while (and even longer these days) for guys to develop mature enough to consult no one’s tastes but their own when it comes to what hey find attractive in women. Immature guys are much more interested in what their boys think about romantic partners than what they think themselves. At the very least, he wants Tina to like him romantically. But I stand ten toes on my sense that he has a crush on her as well.
That, and also he's using Tina to fill an intimacy void in his life. She's providing a close intimate relationship for him, including physical touch and probably emotional problem solving, that his "friends" very obviously aren't as shown in how they interact with her and each other. And this guy's too young and dumb to realise that even if he genuinely doesn't find her romantically or sexually attractive.
I don’t understand why the bride from the first story doesn’t just switch who wears what dress. Make one of the other brides maids wear Tiana’s dress and op can wear Belle or something.
For story one -- why not take the step daughter to golf with you? I used to go with my dad and uncle, it can be plenty fun even if you don't enjoy playing golf
Story 3, haven't been quite in Tina's shoes, but close. And OP doesn't see he's "friendzoning" Tina, to use an incel's term: he basically wants her there because she's convenient, but "ew, I'd never like her like that!"
#3 and #5. - looks aren't everything and a friend of mine once said, "They get cuter when you like them." Basically, if someone touches your heart and you enjoy their company their looks become secondary. Also, as Robert Palmer said in his song Bad Case of Loving You, "A pretty face don't make no pretty heart."
If the gambler worked in the financial industry, they do what's called a U-4 which is an extensive background check. Think financial advisor, trader, broker etc. So yes, with that kind of mark, you would not qualify under federal standards to handle other people's money.
ok i'm 4'11 and 140lbs so i guess im morbidly obese af lol! but seriously, the way he's talking about her, acting around and with her, and then letting his friend pile on top of that?!? that's complete bs and i doubt she was joking about it when she was asking about it and how hurt she was and he definitely sounds like your usual neckbeard incel redpill nice guy type and i pray he never procreates and is alone for the rest of his life sheesh! love you guys though keep it up much love!!
As a black women in the cosplay community, i see way more hatred and venom spit at blk women who have the audacity to cosplay a white/nonblack character. The amount of arguments i see when someone cosplays comic Starfire from the teen titans is crazy. Anyways, there's ways to cosplay or dress as modern versions of black characters without doing blackface and stereotypical actions. They could've compromise and had the style of the dress, or a pin or something to symbolize the different princesses. Like have a magnolia flower or little frog figure in the bridesmaids floral arrangements. So many steps could've been taken.
First off, mad respect to any Black woman who can stay in the cosplay community, you have the balls all those miserable racist, (mostly) misogynistic pos’ seem to be missing. Secondly, I agree on the suggestion, as I ask myself where the where this situation is going on a scale of cosplay to disneybounding, and just a green dress seems more on the latter end. But it could change for me as planning progressed on just how much the bride planned to push on her to be more like Tiana, but representative accessories is more of an honoring the character move and a fantastic suggestion. p.s. Starfire isn’t genetically human, can’t be of any one human race, what the hell can their counter argument even be?!
Story 1: Can we instead put focus on the dad in this story, who married someone with kids that do not get along with his own kid? Like... who gets married before checking if the kids can get along and not fight 24/7? A bad parent. Imo anyway. Yes the dad has a right to happiness, but the safety and comfort of his daughter is equally important.
Im black and dont care if other people do black characters, as long as you arent painting your face to resemble a different race than what you are . Its like dress up - also tiana is my favorite princess and her signature look is iconic, great cosplay usually.
I completely understand OP's unwillingness to dress as Tiana. In this age of technology, where EVERYONE can express their opinions on what someone else is doing, and can even have an effect on their work, school, etc., why take the chance of being scrutinized like that just to appease someone else. For example, I'm indigenous and it frustrates me to no end that some fellow indigenous peoples see braids as cultural appropriation when used on anyone not indigenous. I've had friends of all different backgrounds and have braided many of their hair. I see it as a symbol of love and protection over them.🤷🏽♀️🥰✌🏽
I just discovered you guys within the past couple of months, and it's so funny going back on your old episodes and seeing the birth of some of the bits and buttons that you guys have used up til this day. Watching this in November of 2024. How wild haha
I certainly wouldn’t turn the Tiana themed dress thing into such a big deal, but I would certainly feel uncomfortable and say I was uncomfortable SPECIALLY with the tan thing (however I don’t know if the tan was just for her). I know MANY people that would take offense with a white woman “playing” Tiana (I know it’s just the color of the dress, but the invitation put the name there and it’s themed and stuff) so I would certainly feel like I was doing something wrong. If the tan thing was just for the one representing Tiana I would drop out immediately but if it’s just the dress I would just wear a green dress and that’s it.
A little girl I know cosplayed as her fave anime character last year for Halloween, and people on the STREET came up to her (more than one) and had words with this 10 year old and her mom (who were completely taken aback - i mean she is 10!) so this is real.
My husband talks about me like the last guy does, and it has absolutely made women he works with angry in the past lol. Like I've met coworkers of his before and been greeted with "well this must be the great Lena *eyes me up and down*" 😂😂
Same! I'm also not conventionally attractive though so I don't really get side eye, I mostly get an awkward chuckle like "oh he's so in love he can't see the truth" kind of thing lol. It's fine, we're in to each other and don't really care what other people think, but it is funny to see their reactions sometimes
for the princess dress story I can see where OP is coming from. I feel like once it's posted on social media(cause let's face it, it WILL be posted w/ explanation.) she might be worried about people coming for her or the bride because she's white and Tiana is black. Cosplaying shouldn't matter, but we all know it's not perfect out here. I can understand the worry and feeling uncomfortable if you care what other people will say. And the internet can be VISCIOUS towards people they think are being offensive, even if it's a false sense of "justice". It shouldn't have been a big deal and I think the bride kinda over reacted too, especially when presented with OP's uncomfortableness with the situation and alternatives. Especially if OP is paying for her dress, (which I don't THINK was mentioned in the story) she should have a small say in which princess she wants to be. Honestly weddings make people crazy and sometimes things that shouldn't be an issue are and it blows my mind. I can see both sides as planning one has to be stressful and so having someone raise an issue about something you are set on can make you react badly, outside of your normal personality. But I can also see how OP could be uncomfortable with the possible drama that could result from the idiots of the internet. Cause I'm pretty sure that had more sway over her thoughts than "false wokeness" because I've seen people attack white cosplayers dressing as black characters and vise versa, all of which is stupid, but it happens and sometimes it's easier to avoid even being in that situation.
The Tiana one is funny because it’s a case where “wokeness” is indistinguishable from racism. She’s uncomfortable dressing as a black woman… That can be interpreted in a very bad way lmao. That said, I get why someone wouldn’t want to do it because of the optics. It may be seen as cultural appropriation. My suspicion about the guy with the fat friend is that the post is a parody of the “woman friendzones nice guy because he’s ugly” type stories.
34:23 he does want Tina, but he doesn’t want his friends to know that he wants Tina and five foot three 145 pounds I don’t think that’s overweight specially if she’s thicc
Story 1. You can focus on being “right” or you can remember that a little girl is feeling displaced at her fathers home and now possibly feeling like an inconvenience on a Saturday (the best kid day) at her moms home. Time to be a grown up and step up!
Just gonna paste my comment in here, don't mind me. Story 1: Can we instead put focus on the dad in this story, who married someone with kids that do not get along with his own kid? Like... who gets married before checking if the kids can get along and not fight 24/7? A bad parent. Imo anyway. Yes the dad has a right to happiness, but the safety and comfort of his daughter is equally important.
Story 1: everyone sucks, except the daughter. Op's gf sucks for creating unrealistic boundaries for op, then changing those boundaries because they dont work long term. The boundaries only work IF everyone and everything goes to plan. Life doesnt go to plan 100% of the time. Op sucks for foolishly believing he would only ever be on the sidelines of his step daughters life. What happens if the girls dad gets sick or dies? Or gets remarried and pushes the daughter out of his shiny new family.... oh we know what happens - op leans on the unrealistic boundaries to make his step daughter feel like a burden in her moms home. The poor girl is unwanted in both her bio parents home because she inconveniences the step parents.
As a latinx fan, without a trace of polish in my blood I can tell you in Panama we have a similar show called "Tu cara me suena" (Your face looks familiar) and celebrities crossdress as famous singers and it's quite okay-ish; also we have another one where normal people present themselves physically and talent-wise as close as they can to a singer and during the season they stick to that one character until they win or get eliminated (My name is).
I think Sean you may 21:02 be forgetting that people who love Disney THAT much (not in a rude way) I’m sure she’s gonna want things to be a certain way plus it is her special day
Co worker is a weirdo for caring that a man likes the looks of his own wife (as if it’s normal for straight men to think so little of their own spouse….) but also, why is the guy only appreciative of his wife’s looks? And so vocal about it? Both seem really insecure and superficial
Why does he have to validate any other women’s looks in the entire world except his wife? That’s not insecurity that’s loyalty and that girl needs to go to therapy and figure out why a happily married man’s rejection makes her feel some type of way. Weirdo energy
while i do agree that 'false wokiness' is the issue, given that twitter is constantly dragging people for doing the wrong culture (clothes/hair/vernacular) i would be more than a little concerned too (ex. think of the Asian community coming to that one ladys defence because she wore one of their culturally important dresses and people getting all ticked off about 'cultural appropriation). extreme wokiness is something the internet is good at. This does seem to apply only to white people, though i dont know why. im more upset about the fat shaming. it is a lot more of a problem of all the stories. That is seriously emotionally damaging
The first guy IS the asshole. The boundry was "she doesn't need another father, but you are an authority figure if she ever needs something." She needs something. He's NOT holding his end of the deal. NEVER marry someone with a kid if you aren't prepared to act like a guardian, regardless of if you're required to act as a "parent", if you're a guardian you have responsibilities. It's also illegal to allow a child under 11 to be home alone for longer than 30 minutes. He wasnt not asked to be a "step father". He was asked to not be a father. Those are two different things; and thus you still have requirements and responsibilities as a step father - not only morally, but legally. HE was also the one who made it a Golf or babysitting thing - she asked if he could baby sit. HE said no because of golf; he put a hard boundry of "she can't come with me" by responding no instantly.
The thing with the princess story is like they said, it's not a cosplay. Nobody's being asked to do blackface, that would obviously be a problem. It's just a dress inspired by a character.
In regards to the polish show. I am Polish, please just take into account that all countries have a different history and perspective on what is racist and what just ignorant behaviour.
Wow I never thought I’d hear about Twoja Twarz Brzmi Znajomo on here 😅 yep. A lot of people in Poland do not know what blackface is and don’t understand the concept of it, probably because we don’t have a history of it. Weirdly enough, what they do in that show is they try to impersonate a singer so they copy mannerisms, singing style, the way they walk, and of course there’s an entire team doing characterisations. So really it’s more of a tribute? Although I think they should just stick to white celebrities 😬
Also someone here said it’s cringe and it really is, but I know that a lot of older generations enjoy it for the effort that goes into performances. And I’ve never heard about any of the performances on the show mocking black people, it’s not the point.
yeah, not only we don't have history of blackface in Poland, but we are very homogenic society - 99% white. That being said, it doesn't man that Poles can't be racists. Some definitely are. I don't watch the show, but I'm torn by this concept.
max did not have to diss everyone at the office and op like that 💀💀 you dont need to put other women down to bring one or others up, but if it comes up and youre saying it to a friend like "yk the people at my work are alright, but my partner is the most beautiful person i know." max is literally out here like "none of u ladies could EVER hold a candle to my wife 😍😍!" it is nice to see a man love his partner so much, and of course op is weird for her comments even if that guy got annoying, but id say that everyone here sucks yk?
okay I don't know what to say about white people cosplaying as a black characters (without the blackface or anything like that of course) but Tiana and Merida have very different color schemes so I don't think a dress for Tiana would be the same as a dress for Merida, unless bride chose a green dress that's not suited for both characters but what's more important, their cosplays will be known, meaning the bride will write on the pictures who is who, tell guests, etc.
19:02 Polish girly here, for me is a super cringe show, but to be fair as someone writes before, we have different history and culture. In the end, this show feels like its for ignorant elderly audience but if it were me I wouldn’t produce it at all
I'll jump in. I don't have kids but I was left alone at the age of 9. I was a good kid, and I don't know the kid but if the kid can be trusted, why not have them stay home alone? Even for a few hours?
I have 3 brothers they definitely could NOT be left alone at 9 the house would be on fire, same goes for my cousins lol however I was able to be left alone/in charge at that age, I had to babysit them for years
I'm probably not going to make friends by saying this, but I feel like your takes and ideas regarding mariage and weddings are wayyyyy too biased. Saying someone is an asshole for not wanting to wear something because they are uncomfortable (for whatever reason it might be) just because "its for a wedding", and they "can look dumb for a day" because "its for a wedding", is just not okay. Weddings shouldnt bypass consent and respect. I feel like if the context had been an halloween or a birthday party, your answers would have changed and OP would have been "not the asshole". (But I still love listening to you and your podcast, and will continue to listen, even if I don't share your views on mariage ❤)
What is funny too OG story of princess and the frog was white they just made the character after a RL chef and made her the main of the story...so really its just dumb. The tiana one was dumb...its green dress this is toooo much. Woke culture is wild....also coulda chose another princess with better color than green. Snow white has black hair...this just seems silly. Id just kick her out one less princess.
Im a black girl. And i see other black girls cosplay as non black characters all the time. Its not a big deal.
Thank you for sharing your perspective! 🙏
I've barely started the video, people get mad about this?? That's probably the dumbest thing I've heard. Let people have fun!!!
Another black girl here. Totally agreed. I'm calling the bride the AH for telling her to tan before the wedding though lol I'm thinking if she told ALL the bridesmaids to tan, OP wouldn't have mentioned it.
@@shahana_styleCould be that the bride did tell everyone, but OP brought it up because she feels it further supports her stance that it’s racist. She didn’t explicitly say she was the only one who was told to tan, which I feel she would have if that was the case. But I guess we’ll never know, lol.
I think the problem might be that there are like 20ish Disney princesses and only one black one. It shouldn't be a big deal but unfortunately, it is and I think she did the right thing to avoid the headache that will inevitably come from dressing as Tiana.
I do cosplay and every single time I put on a non-black character I get bombarded both in person and online that I'm not allowed to do it because "that character isn't black so you just make them look ugly." I don't give a shit because I'm late 30s and all my insecurities are family-related and non-family doesn't mean anything to me. But she sounds younger and the hate you get can be harmful
I don't think I can judge someone as an AH for feeling uncomfortable with portraying something they feel uncomfortable portraying
Man everyone is talking about the disney dress story but come on THE ONE ABOUT THE GUY FAT SHAMING HIS FRIEND FOR HER THINKING HE WAS INTO HER IS SO FUCKING UPSETTING IM FUMING
Bro really said she's overweight and she's only 140-150 pounds like WHAT TF
So, as a Cosplayer, I can tell you that the Tiana dress… Oddly enough is a huge subject of debate in certain areas of my calls, play world. I have had the sweetest, kindest, and honestly mixed race friend, make the Tiana dress before. But because she is incredibly pale and white passing, certain sections of the Internet made damn sure to make her feel bad simply for wearing a dress that was “made for an African American character”. She never posted the photos or wore the dress that she made herself ever again. I personally do not agree with that decision, because it feels again like the “false Wackness”, but I’m just here to say that it is a very very divided issue across the board.
I agree. Very divisive. I don’t have a problem with it as long as she isn’t doing black face. But I could see someone getting angry, since the lack representation means less characters for POC, and that is valid. I think the bride shouldn’t be making her friend do something she is uncomfortable with, especially when she is going to opening her self up for criticism, for a something she doesn’t agree with in the first place.
wackness? lol
It's funny because I my experience it's usually a person that's not the race of whatever is being discussed going the HARDEST. Fake wokeness indeed. Tianas a princess and anyone can be a princess. Just don't do blackface... Not hard🤷🏾♀️
@@belizelover21That part. But I couldn’t tell if she was worried about appropriation or if she just didn’t want to be the black princess. Something about the language she used all throughout made me think that it was less about a fear of causing offense, and more about her *being* offended at the idea of being asked to dress as Tiana. Like having anything related to blackness that close to her, is what was bothering her.
@@noriii it's definitely wack 😂
31:15 John’s reaction when dude says “look at you” is perfection. I don’t think this guy is just “naturally affectionate with everyone,” I think he’s one of those people that gets off on having a harem of women around him that he know have intense feelings for him that he will never reciprocate. He likes feeling like he’s out of their league and he does enough to stoke the fire and keep their interest in him (and off of anyone else) and make them feel like he’s interested as well, but has to also make sure they know that they can’t ever live up to his expectations.
i came late to the party but i came here to say HOLY SHIT THE GASLIGHTING OF THAT GUY AND HIS FRIENDS TO TINA ("kill them kill them all" has me weak 🤣)
Tina needs better friends. Justice for Tina!
Right!!! He definitely knew what he was doing. His fake and feigned surprise at her reaction is deplorable. I suspect he knew exactly what he was doing the entire time. He seemed to have wanted an opportunity to put her down and I'm sure he was overjoyed when she fell for the bait. That is what I heard through his story telling. I wouldn't doubt it if he and that pathetic friend of his planned this in some way. Either way, horrible people.
Btw, 5'3" 145 lbs is not overweight.
26:32 I actually understand the sentiment of the woman who didn't want to dress up as Tiana. Black representation is so scarse, and it seems like she legit didn't want there to be a chance that she could step on anyone's toes. White Knighting? ABSOLUTELY. But her heart is in the right place. Honestly, I can respect that.
I was thinking the same. Like I would never be comfortable dressing up as a non-white princess because those characters are not mine to represent. There are so many other white princesses to choose from. NTA
I don't think it was white knighting at all. She very rightfully was afraid of the internet tearing her apart for the rest of her life if the wedding photos and program listing her as Tiana were to go viral for any reason.
Like, people get sent death threats for stuff like that.
@@yoyohaylialright I agreed with you till you sounded sad for people being racist lol ☠️ I've experienced death threats for existing on the internet if someone makes the decision to be racist that's a whole nother rodeo
Plenty diff people wear white princesses... im latina and never got a latina princess what then? Its a costume... its meant to be someone you're not...same as acting.
To me, it sounds like the bride went with Tiana because OP has black hair.
She could have picked other Jasmine or Snow White.
And yes, I know Jasmine isn't white, however I haven't really seen any outrage over white kids/adults dressing as her.
I mean i feel like in story 2, the OP expressed that she wasnt comfortable with it. And in the end, she is the only person being asked to dress up as a princess with a different race. So i feel like its easy for the bride and the rest of the people to say that she should just go ahead, when shes the one who has to potentially deal with the repercussions of that. And for some reason, i highly doubt they would stick up for her (saying she was expressedly asked to dress as this princess for example) if things got nasty online just based off how blasé they were about the whole thing
I'd be uncomfortable cosplaying a black character, too. There's MULTIPLE people on Tiktok who are harassed DAILY for cosplaying characters that aren't the same race, plus the fact that black representation is already so scarce - I wouldn't want to do it either. Willingly throwing myself to the sharks? I'd much rather avoid the drama and go as something that makes me feel more comfortable, and if my friend can't understand that, I don't think they'd be my friend.
God the story about op and his friend made me so sad, a lot of us plus size girls can relate to having a guy be into us in private but they dont want to be judged by their friends for their preferences so they act completely different in public. I hope she finds someone who sees how beautiful she is.
Also for fucks sake 5'3" and 143lbs is a completely average size for women in the 21st centur
Century lol
I think the same thing like 5:3 and 145 is not even that bad like what is he talking about? I’m 5:3 and I weigh more than that so😂
@@asladrocky Centaur
That story made me angry, especially as a fat guy who prefers his women thick. That guy is a fat phobic piece of shit, and his friends are even worse. I'm kind of glad she dropped their asses.
I’ve been big my whole life and never had this issue. Have a spine and break up with someone if they pull that, you’ll find better guys just because you stand up for yourself
Story 3: These are the type of guys who get mad when women won't date "nice guys" like them.
In regards to story 3, I’m just confused as to how 5’3” & 140 lbs is considered overweight 😳 I would love to know his weight/height, just for reference, ya know…🧐
for a woman? wtf? that is DEFINITELY overweight
Not really, it's a 25.7 body mass index. Normal BMI is between 18-25.
@@ladosis5596 This. 💯 Also, BMI does not take into account things like muscle mass, a larger chest or bone structure (like having naturally wider hips). It’s a flawed way to gauge health or whether someone is overweight.
I'm 5'2 and 135lbs and I'm neither _fat not chubby!_ 😂😂 Tina needs new friends.
flashback to when my dad thought that a normal weight for me would be 75 lb
OP on Story three. Not only doesn’t understand girls, he also doesn’t understand honesty. Because he’s totally into Tina, and to chickenshit to own it. Especially in front of his boy friends. It takes a while (and even longer these days) for guys to develop mature enough to consult no one’s tastes but their own when it comes to what hey find attractive in women. Immature guys are much more interested in what their boys think about romantic partners than what they think themselves.
At the very least, he wants Tina to like him romantically. But I stand ten toes on my sense that he has a crush on her as well.
That, and also he's using Tina to fill an intimacy void in his life. She's providing a close intimate relationship for him, including physical touch and probably emotional problem solving, that his "friends" very obviously aren't as shown in how they interact with her and each other. And this guy's too young and dumb to realise that even if he genuinely doesn't find her romantically or sexually attractive.
I don’t understand why the bride from the first story doesn’t just switch who wears what dress. Make one of the other brides maids wear Tiana’s dress and op can wear Belle or something.
It’s because the op has black hair unlike the other bridesmaids
For story one -- why not take the step daughter to golf with you? I used to go with my dad and uncle, it can be plenty fun even if you don't enjoy playing golf
It could also be his moment of zen, having some adult time and playing golf once a week with his siblings.
Story 3, haven't been quite in Tina's shoes, but close. And OP doesn't see he's "friendzoning" Tina, to use an incel's term: he basically wants her there because she's convenient, but "ew, I'd never like her like that!"
#3 and #5. - looks aren't everything and a friend of mine once said, "They get cuter when you like them." Basically, if someone touches your heart and you enjoy their company their looks become secondary. Also, as Robert Palmer said in his song Bad Case of Loving You, "A pretty face don't make no pretty heart."
If my husband talked about me to his coworkers the same way Max does in that last story, I think my heart would completely melt from happiness
If the gambler worked in the financial industry, they do what's called a U-4 which is an extensive background check. Think financial advisor, trader, broker etc. So yes, with that kind of mark, you would not qualify under federal standards to handle other people's money.
ok i'm 4'11 and 140lbs so i guess im morbidly obese af lol! but seriously, the way he's talking about her, acting around and with her, and then letting his friend pile on top of that?!? that's complete bs and i doubt she was joking about it when she was asking about it and how hurt she was and he definitely sounds like your usual neckbeard incel redpill nice guy type and i pray he never procreates and is alone for the rest of his life sheesh! love you guys though keep it up much love!!
As a black women in the cosplay community, i see way more hatred and venom spit at blk women who have the audacity to cosplay a white/nonblack character. The amount of arguments i see when someone cosplays comic Starfire from the teen titans is crazy. Anyways, there's ways to cosplay or dress as modern versions of black characters without doing blackface and stereotypical actions. They could've compromise and had the style of the dress, or a pin or something to symbolize the different princesses. Like have a magnolia flower or little frog figure in the bridesmaids floral arrangements. So many steps could've been taken.
This so much. Cue “Hinata isn’t black” sound. I hope they read every comment from a black woman because it’s definitely a complex issue
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First off, mad respect to any Black woman who can stay in the cosplay community, you have the balls all those miserable racist, (mostly) misogynistic pos’ seem to be missing. Secondly, I agree on the suggestion, as I ask myself where the where this situation is going on a scale of cosplay to disneybounding, and just a green dress seems more on the latter end. But it could change for me as planning progressed on just how much the bride planned to push on her to be more like Tiana, but representative accessories is more of an honoring the character move and a fantastic suggestion.
p.s. Starfire isn’t genetically human, can’t be of any one human race, what the hell can their counter argument even be?!
Story 1:
Can we instead put focus on the dad in this story, who married someone with kids that do not get along with his own kid?
Like... who gets married before checking if the kids can get along and not fight 24/7?
A bad parent. Imo anyway.
Yes the dad has a right to happiness, but the safety and comfort of his daughter is equally important.
Im black and dont care if other people do black characters, as long as you arent painting your face to resemble a different race than what you are . Its like dress up - also tiana is my favorite princess and her signature look is iconic, great cosplay usually.
honestly I will paint my face whatever color I want... I don't understand why people think they can have input on something like that
@@notimportant7495bruh just say you‘re racist
I completely understand OP's unwillingness to dress as Tiana. In this age of technology, where EVERYONE can express their opinions on what someone else is doing, and can even have an effect on their work, school, etc., why take the chance of being scrutinized like that just to appease someone else. For example, I'm indigenous and it frustrates me to no end that some fellow indigenous peoples see braids as cultural appropriation when used on anyone not indigenous. I've had friends of all different backgrounds and have braided many of their hair. I see it as a symbol of love and protection over them.🤷🏽♀️🥰✌🏽
I love the addition of the AITA verdict and comments!
I just discovered you guys within the past couple of months, and it's so funny going back on your old episodes and seeing the birth of some of the bits and buttons that you guys have used up til this day. Watching this in November of 2024. How wild haha
I certainly wouldn’t turn the Tiana themed dress thing into such a big deal, but I would certainly feel uncomfortable and say I was uncomfortable SPECIALLY with the tan thing (however I don’t know if the tan was just for her). I know MANY people that would take offense with a white woman “playing” Tiana (I know it’s just the color of the dress, but the invitation put the name there and it’s themed and stuff) so I would certainly feel like I was doing something wrong. If the tan thing was just for the one representing Tiana I would drop out immediately but if it’s just the dress I would just wear a green dress and that’s it.
A little girl I know cosplayed as her fave anime character last year for Halloween, and people on the STREET came up to her (more than one) and had words with this 10 year old and her mom (who were completely taken aback - i mean she is 10!) so this is real.
John "YEET! YEET!"
Josh "Nope, that's Mondays"
Sean "Then kill them. KILL THEM ALL!" 😂
Please josh, do a button with shaun saying "kill them, kill the all"
My husband talks about me like the last guy does, and it has absolutely made women he works with angry in the past lol. Like I've met coworkers of his before and been greeted with "well this must be the great Lena *eyes me up and down*" 😂😂
Same! I'm also not conventionally attractive though so I don't really get side eye, I mostly get an awkward chuckle like "oh he's so in love he can't see the truth" kind of thing lol. It's fine, we're in to each other and don't really care what other people think, but it is funny to see their reactions sometimes
@@WitchOracle That's so RUDEEEE 😡 jealousy is so ugly. I'm glad your relationship is stronger than that bs :)
for the princess dress story I can see where OP is coming from. I feel like once it's posted on social media(cause let's face it, it WILL be posted w/ explanation.) she might be worried about people coming for her or the bride because she's white and Tiana is black. Cosplaying shouldn't matter, but we all know it's not perfect out here. I can understand the worry and feeling uncomfortable if you care what other people will say. And the internet can be VISCIOUS towards people they think are being offensive, even if it's a false sense of "justice". It shouldn't have been a big deal and I think the bride kinda over reacted too, especially when presented with OP's uncomfortableness with the situation and alternatives. Especially if OP is paying for her dress, (which I don't THINK was mentioned in the story) she should have a small say in which princess she wants to be. Honestly weddings make people crazy and sometimes things that shouldn't be an issue are and it blows my mind. I can see both sides as planning one has to be stressful and so having someone raise an issue about something you are set on can make you react badly, outside of your normal personality. But I can also see how OP could be uncomfortable with the possible drama that could result from the idiots of the internet. Cause I'm pretty sure that had more sway over her thoughts than "false wokeness" because I've seen people attack white cosplayers dressing as black characters and vise versa, all of which is stupid, but it happens and sometimes it's easier to avoid even being in that situation.
The Tiana one is funny because it’s a case where “wokeness” is indistinguishable from racism. She’s uncomfortable dressing as a black woman… That can be interpreted in a very bad way lmao. That said, I get why someone wouldn’t want to do it because of the optics. It may be seen as cultural appropriation.
My suspicion about the guy with the fat friend is that the post is a parody of the “woman friendzones nice guy because he’s ugly” type stories.
34:23 he does want Tina, but he doesn’t want his friends to know that he wants Tina and five foot three 145 pounds I don’t think that’s overweight specially if she’s thicc
"I was just being honest." You can be honest and kind though? Honesty doesn't excuse you from being an asshole when you wield it as a weapon.
Story 1. You can focus on being “right” or you can remember that a little girl is feeling displaced at her fathers home and now possibly feeling like an inconvenience on a Saturday (the best kid day) at her moms home. Time to be a grown up and step up!
Just gonna paste my comment in here, don't mind me.
Story 1:
Can we instead put focus on the dad in this story, who married someone with kids that do not get along with his own kid?
Like... who gets married before checking if the kids can get along and not fight 24/7?
A bad parent. Imo anyway.
Yes the dad has a right to happiness, but the safety and comfort of his daughter is equally important.
I'm 5'2 and 180 lbs (which I'm not happy about but still) like wtf, 5'3 and 145 is NORMAL.
31:09 Perfect energy, perfect response.
25:51 Ariel could be green and Sleeping Beauty could be pink...
Story 1: everyone sucks, except the daughter.
Op's gf sucks for creating unrealistic boundaries for op, then changing those boundaries because they dont work long term. The boundaries only work IF everyone and everything goes to plan. Life doesnt go to plan 100% of the time.
Op sucks for foolishly believing he would only ever be on the sidelines of his step daughters life. What happens if the girls dad gets sick or dies? Or gets remarried and pushes the daughter out of his shiny new family.... oh we know what happens - op leans on the unrealistic boundaries to make his step daughter feel like a burden in her moms home.
The poor girl is unwanted in both her bio parents home because she inconveniences the step parents.
Just learned that October is Filipino American History Month, so Josh might be obligated to lose this month as well as in May lol
I love Kevin in the back just chilling 🥹
For the Eats lunch for late snack story, wife needs to get a wooden spoon and use it!
As a latinx fan, without a trace of polish in my blood I can tell you in Panama we have a similar show called "Tu cara me suena" (Your face looks familiar) and celebrities crossdress as famous singers and it's quite okay-ish; also we have another one where normal people present themselves physically and talent-wise as close as they can to a singer and during the season they stick to that one character until they win or get eliminated (My name is).
I feel sad for the OP in the office story That she doesn't know what a great man looks like. She also sounds like a pick-me
I think Sean you may 21:02 be forgetting that people who love Disney THAT much (not in a rude way) I’m sure she’s gonna want things to be a certain way plus it is her special day
I really want the "sad woo" to become a sound.
You can be honest without being mean.
the blackface in the singing show.... they did that shit here in bulgaria too :|
Co worker is a weirdo for caring that a man likes the looks of his own wife (as if it’s normal for straight men to think so little of their own spouse….) but also, why is the guy only appreciative of his wife’s looks? And so vocal about it? Both seem really insecure and superficial
I swear she must want him because that reactions so weird. Unless he really is even worse than the post describes
Why does he have to validate any other women’s looks in the entire world except his wife? That’s not insecurity that’s loyalty and that girl needs to go to therapy and figure out why a happily married man’s rejection makes her feel some type of way. Weirdo energy
while i do agree that 'false wokiness' is the issue, given that twitter is constantly dragging people for doing the wrong culture (clothes/hair/vernacular) i would be more than a little concerned too (ex. think of the Asian community coming to that one ladys defence because she wore one of their culturally important dresses and people getting all ticked off about 'cultural appropriation). extreme wokiness is something the internet is good at. This does seem to apply only to white people, though i dont know why. im more upset about the fat shaming. it is a lot more of a problem of all the stories. That is seriously emotionally damaging
The first guy IS the asshole.
The boundry was
"she doesn't need another father, but you are an authority figure if she ever needs something."
She needs something.
He's NOT holding his end of the deal.
NEVER marry someone with a kid if you aren't prepared to act like a guardian, regardless of if you're required to act as a "parent", if you're a guardian you have responsibilities.
It's also illegal to allow a child under 11 to be home alone for longer than 30 minutes.
He wasnt not asked to be a "step father". He was asked to not be a father. Those are two different things; and thus you still have requirements and responsibilities as a step father - not only morally, but legally. HE was also the one who made it a Golf or babysitting thing - she asked if he could baby sit. HE said no because of golf; he put a hard boundry of "she can't come with me" by responding no instantly.
The couple story she does confirm he was caught embezzling in a comment saying it was the “e” word.
She shouldn’t ask anyone to get tan before her wedding.
The thing with the princess story is like they said, it's not a cosplay. Nobody's being asked to do blackface, that would obviously be a problem. It's just a dress inspired by a character.
In regards to the polish show. I am Polish, please just take into account that all countries have a different history and perspective on what is racist and what just ignorant behaviour.
As a black mam, I'm fine with anyonr cosplaying black characters, as long as they don't do blackface
How dare you say that the Merida green is the same as the Tiana green??? Yes that's my issue with this LOL
Wow I never thought I’d hear about Twoja Twarz Brzmi Znajomo on here 😅 yep. A lot of people in Poland do not know what blackface is and don’t understand the concept of it, probably because we don’t have a history of it. Weirdly enough, what they do in that show is they try to impersonate a singer so they copy mannerisms, singing style, the way they walk, and of course there’s an entire team doing characterisations. So really it’s more of a tribute? Although I think they should just stick to white celebrities 😬
Also someone here said it’s cringe and it really is, but I know that a lot of older generations enjoy it for the effort that goes into performances. And I’ve never heard about any of the performances on the show mocking black people, it’s not the point.
yeah, not only we don't have history of blackface in Poland, but we are very homogenic society - 99% white. That being said, it doesn't man that Poles can't be racists. Some definitely are. I don't watch the show, but I'm torn by this concept.
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I do think in certain fields the check your credit score in order to get hired -so gambling debt would make you Unhireable
She did say he got into legal trouble tho. A credit score check wouldn’t cause that.
max did not have to diss everyone at the office and op like that 💀💀 you dont need to put other women down to bring one or others up, but if it comes up and youre saying it to a friend like "yk the people at my work are alright, but my partner is the most beautiful person i know." max is literally out here like "none of u ladies could EVER hold a candle to my wife 😍😍!" it is nice to see a man love his partner so much, and of course op is weird for her comments even if that guy got annoying, but id say that everyone here sucks yk?
Chargers fans are only wondering if the chargers will choke or not. We don’t care about celebrities being there lol 😂
okay I don't know what to say about white people cosplaying as a black characters (without the blackface or anything like that of course) but Tiana and Merida have very different color schemes so I don't think a dress for Tiana would be the same as a dress for Merida, unless bride chose a green dress that's not suited for both characters
but what's more important, their cosplays will be known, meaning the bride will write on the pictures who is who, tell guests, etc.
I mean, technically the husband _is_ dissing every girl he works with but OP is still the AH
Story 2, my country so embarrassing 😅 I apologise for the Polish TV
19:02 Polish girly here, for me is a super cringe show, but to be fair as someone writes before, we have different history and culture. In the end, this show feels like its for ignorant elderly audience but if it were me I wouldn’t produce it at all
If she's not doing black face what's the problem????
I'll jump in. I don't have kids but I was left alone at the age of 9. I was a good kid, and I don't know the kid but if the kid can be trusted, why not have them stay home alone? Even for a few hours?
Is it possible that the mom was afraid if the kid did have an accident of something, she was gonna be charged with child neglect?
I have 3 brothers they definitely could NOT be left alone at 9 the house would be on fire, same goes for my cousins lol
however I was able to be left alone/in charge at that age, I had to babysit them for years
The black face shows is in Italy and Italians don't understand the problem. Sorry 💛
I'm probably not going to make friends by saying this, but I feel like your takes and ideas regarding mariage and weddings are wayyyyy too biased. Saying someone is an asshole for not wanting to wear something because they are uncomfortable (for whatever reason it might be) just because "its for a wedding", and they "can look dumb for a day" because "its for a wedding", is just not okay. Weddings shouldnt bypass consent and respect. I feel like if the context had been an halloween or a birthday party, your answers would have changed and OP would have been "not the asshole". (But I still love listening to you and your podcast, and will continue to listen, even if I don't share your views on mariage ❤)
Its so uncomfortable to pretend to be someone of another race when theyre darker than you its weird to defend that to me real real weird ☠️
You can dress as anyone it’s fine. Just don’t do blackface and you’re good!
Ofc the white man doesn’t see the problem with story #2 . 🌚I love josh tho
What is funny too OG story of princess and the frog was white they just made the character after a RL chef and made her the main of the story...so really its just dumb.
The tiana one was dumb...its green dress this is toooo much. Woke culture is wild....also coulda chose another princess with better color than green. Snow white has black hair...this just seems silly. Id just kick her out one less princess.
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