Hermetic Spirituality with Prof Wouter Hanegraaff
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
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Hanegraaff, W.J. (2022) Hermetic Spirituality and the Historical Imagination: Altered States of Knowledge in Late Antiquity. New edition. Cambridge, United Kingdom ; New York, NY: Cambridge University Press.
Prof Hanegraaff's website: wouterjhanegraaff.net
blog: wouterjhanegraaff.blogspot.com
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00:00:00 Intro to Prof Wouter Hanegraaff
00:02:00 Overview of Hermetic Philosophy & Spirituality
00:05:36 Altered States of Consciousness & the unknowable source
00:12:12 Gnosis, direct vs. propositional knowledge
00:21:30 Body, Matter & Embodiment
00:26:20 Reveal the spiritual light in the world
00:42:20 Is Language able to describe Gnosis?
00:49:00 Nous, Universal Light, Human Ability to know
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The word Nous is in common usage in Australia. Pronounced Nowsss it is used as a sexual reference,
example, A man who gets all the girls has the Nous !
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Fascinating!
Thank you so much for your support to the project!
i love seeing your excitement at getting to sit down and speak with someone so knowledgeable on the subject! great video - i’m so lucky to be living in an age where typically completely obscure information can be made so concise and clear!! thank you for providing great sources as always angela
you're very kind!
Thank you Angela for inviting Professsor Wouter Hanegraff to your RUclips channel.
it was my pleasure
@@drangelapuca And it is always pleasure to listen to you Dr. Angela.
'Gnosis' is cognate to the Sanskrit word 'jñāna,' which also means knowledge - mundane knowledge in some contexts or spiritual insight in other contexts. Jñāna yoga involves meditative techniques for sharpening the faculty of discernment or conscience (Sanskrit, buddhi) and progressively drawing one’s awareness inwards until, with much practice, it becomes possible to discern universal consciousness as the underlying essence of oneself and of all phenomena.
In certain schools of tantra, this introversive process of cognitively separating universal consciousness from its identification with mortal, individualized, finite elements (body, mind, objects/possessions, etc.) can be followed up with an extroversive process of integrating one’s experience of universal consciousness with one’s experience of objective existence, so that there is no duality between inner/spiritual and outer/worldly realities.
Thank you for posting a deeper meaning of the word "Gnosis".
Thanks for your sharing. What would be the practice or work you reccomend to be able to do this fine separation/integration?
@@bernardomesilva you're welcome. This methodology is based on different forms of meditation - starting with focused attention meditation (such as focusing on the breath or a mantra), followed by Self-inquiry, followed by mindful awareness of your surroundings. There are guided meditations and lectures related to this topic on my channel.
@@keenanarthur8381 Thaks. G'd Bless
Wow, I cut my hand almost in half with a chain saw ten years ago. After the operation to reattach it. I was on morphine, two kinds of pain killers and antibiotics because of an infection, for four days I was delirious and out of my mind. still can’t put into words what I saw, felt experienced. Stopped me from being an atheist which changed my whole life! Regards Steve
Looking forward to this interview. I have an Amazon shopping list filled with Hanegraaff's books in case one day I can actually afford to buy them!
Thanks!
Thank you, Adam!
I learned so much from this interview, hoping to read this book soon. Thank you for all the wonderful guests and the scholarship you do yourself.
thanks!
Smart man
On my first watching of this video, Prof Hanegraaff stunned me when he said that texts have agency. The more I think about that statement the more it explains things that I have wondered about over a long time 🤯
yes, that was thought-provoking
Excellent!
thanks
"Whatever is most important to them cannot be written down in words...", this is what I mean when I talk about the Sacred!! What a great opportunity you gave us to hear him talk about this!!
Thank you, Mark
Fantastic interview. Early Hermeticism can be so difficult to clearly disaggregate from Neoplatonism/Gnosticism/etc and Wouter explains these tricky ideas so well, and with such insight! Thanks a lot Angela!
The best way to explain "nous" in my opinion is "the understanding, processing, and connection of gnosis between us and the source."
Gnosis: a reality very close to my heart. Although we can not put it into words, we may say what it is not. Gnosis, Knowledge is not information.
Thank you Angela for the brilliant video of this interview!
For me, I could best describe it like this. It was like my whole life was a collection of puzzle pieces. Every memory, every system, every law of nature used to just be individual pieces floating in a void. Then I spent a lot of time in reflection, and I was able to sort those pieces, then assemble them to understand the full picture of who I am, what I am, and what everything is. Like understanding the connections between everything.
Thankyou Dr. Angela and Pro.Hanegraaf for mentioning Coptic .
¡¡ Wow !!
I liked how everyone is a part of the Light. It reminds me of the Crowley quote, "Every man and every woman is a star."
Yes, a Satanic current runs through this "there is no duality" stuff.
As a recall that we don't experience the world as it really is because it's filtered through our flawed organs of perception is what Emanuel Kant was getting at.A very fascinating discussion.
Can you expand a little about that perspective of Kant?
Wonderful episode. Reminds me of my Sufi path ❤️🌹💕
Very good and sound understanding, thanks
thank you!
Absolutely FASCINATING talk by Hanegraaf. I look forward to diving into his book. And as host, your interview style is perfect -- staying out of the way, yet your occasional comments actually CLARIFIED points Hanegraaf was making. You clearly have a brilliant mind -- a maybe even some Nous, too !!!
Just an amazing show....I look forward to watching interviews with other guests !!!
Great interview.
thanks
Holy crap a piece of music in the book that we can use to rise up through the spheres... Take my money 💰
A Wonderful and Deep dive into the conversation of Knowing & Spiritual Thoughts!..🤔 This is what I’ve looked for in interviews and the representatives of Scholarship..!❤️🔥
Love your channel Dr. Puca, this has been my favorite episode so far. Thank you so much to both you and Professor Hanegraff! i will definitely be purchasing his book along with some of his others i've been browsing. my biggest takeaway from this conversation was Professor Hannegraf's take on the way that our stars (daemon) rule over us. i'm reminded of a quote by a wise person who once said " rule your stars, or your stars will rule you." wise words indeed... Thank You again, Cheers!
I know I've found a good video when I need to stop in the middle of it and run to my notebook with ideas for my dissertation! Thank you for a great talk
This is a brilliant Interview, the clarification of the philosophical and spiritual differences between gnosticism and hermetic ism has now lead me on a mew path. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Fantastic...a great interview for me because WH has made Hermeticism so clear. And beautiful. I think nous might be equivalent to buddhi in Sanskrit, its the higher intellect, gateway to higher states. Thank you so so much.
Thanks You Angela! ❤ This is possibly the best explanation of Hermetic Spirituality I've ever heard. I'm going to buy his book too
In English there used to be more words, such as to know, and to ken (Scots today) and to wit, but "wit" became archaic.
You do think Pomandres is Hermes' (in Thelemic terms) Holy Guardian Angel (or Higher Divine Self)?
Super fascinating. Looks like I have a new book to order.
I love the way he talked about the enchanted aspects of writing. When the words are flowing out and we struggle to keep up with the stream they seem to arrive on, we are swept up into the currents… writing can be as enchanting for the writer as it is (hopefully ) for the readers.
There’s too many things I loved about this interview and the subject and that’s really interesting about English using the same word Know to apply to the very distinctly different kind of familiarity and accumulated knowledge. So interesting! Thank you!!
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Namaste, Dr, Puca! When I get my raise at my job I will get a membership.I'm trying to go back to school as well, so I get overwhelmed.
Fantastic interview!
Much appreciated!
His expertise was great ❤
I'm going to buy today 🌟
As always, your vídeos are amazing! Kisses from Brasil ❤
In English we say book smart and street smart. Street smart meaning trusting your gut and learning through experience.
Best interview ever!!🌻
This is one if the best youtube videos I have ever seen. Everything was espectacular, the topic, the knowledgeable guest (who was spot on), and of course Angela’s unique insight that makes things even more understandable. Honestly, this was great, thank you! Would you do more content on Hermetics?
Thank you so much. Yes I will
Amazing conversation, thank you!
I am one of the few in possession of his lodovico lazzarelli's hermetic studied. Such a honor!
YOUR CHANNEL IS LITERALLY THE BEST ONE ON RUclips. That is all.
Thank you so much!
Really enjoying this! Thanks for the super conversation, Angela : )
Great interview Angela I will definitely read Hanegraaff's book Thanks.
You did it again! Another great guest and another great interview, I learned a lot from this one!
Thanks!
thanks!
legend. such a great interview, thanks, to you both!
AWSOME! I am binging on everything Angela! Amazing! Thank you! 💕🙏💥🤗
I always appreciate your discussions, Angela. Thanks for having him on
Great interview. Never knew that gnosis is about non-duality and direct experience of spiritual reality. Tnx a lot
you're welcome!
Ken Wilber delt with this dual/non-dual stuff in his quite profound "The Spectrum of Consciousness" the book which started spectrum psychology.
In Jonathan Goldman's "Healing Sounds the Power of Harmonics" there are diagrams showing how different parts of the body resonate with vowels, yes I know their English vowels, but the principle might remain the same.
Maybe language can give instructions to practice a method that induces an experiential state, such as gnosis, an indirect approach to experience.
I'd say nous is more like Eugene Gendlin's "Felt Sense"
Peter Kingsley makes the same interpretation regarding early "Philosophers" such as Parmenides, that they actually practised psychotechnologies that changed their state of consciousness.
Wouter's a giant
An absolutely delightful view and exposition to this interaction and the first time I have heard “interaction between Thoth and Hermes” I have most commonly heard them as one and the same. I continue to be enamored with your content.
Thank you, Rob. that's lovely
Brilliant! Thank you so much, and the book is absolutely riveting.
I am interested in that two year religious studies master at UvA, soon to graduate philosophy student, I actually talked with this professor, cool video 👍
His description of nous as the ability to perceive the universal light reminds me of Karl von Ekartshausen's inner sensorium.
fascinating! thank you for sharing this
thank you so much for doing this interview!
Wow...amazingly beautiful...thank you both for sharing ❤
you're very welcome!
This was awesome! Thank you Angela & also Wouter 🖤
The difference between knowledge of the physical world and knowledge of the instinctual/intuition is fascinating. I think the light talked of in history may be the energy contained in atom’s. All matter consist of energy for lack of a better word. Moving, attracting, deflecting. In constant motion though solid to perceptions. Science explains how, but the self conscious, that’s a mystery. Do atom’s have conscience? How would we know? Wonderful and fascinating topic. Delightful guest & hostess 😊👍💚🍀🐢
Also the musical aspect. There are numerous theories of sound waves and frequency and non physical effects. As well as well-being/illness of physical self. Either way music won me over very young! ❤😊
I will pose the nous is soul and it’s source. And the instinctual/intuitive aspect of self. I ❤ this subject 😊
thanks for sharing
Thank you Angela for giving Wouter Hanegraaff opportunity to deliver what must be the most incisive 1-hour transmittal of hermetic gnosis on the web, by which "all obscurity will fly from you"!
Thank you, Raymond. He was indeed exceptional
llove your work
What a superb interview. Can't wait to get his book!
I liked that you guys talk a bit of history. If writing is poison, then, do you think RUclips and such would be the modern interpretation of that? Without knowing many of us, me included, that the internet is fake, or gives an illusion, so maybe things haven't changed.
Thank you for covering these topics and hosting such an interesting interview! I'm happily adding this book to my to-read list now. 😁
Thank you 🙏
Concerning the radical nonduality of light, it would be interesting to point Prof. Hanegraaff to the nondual Saivism of Kashmir with its concept of an encompassing, hence nondual „light of (universal) consciousness“ (Skr. prakāśa) which both in terms of metaphysical speculation and experiential practice comes very close to this.
What a awesome interview. Thank you so much for your work. I just did my inscription in your channel. Magic cheers from Brazil!
It's so neat you can not communicate a revelation. The best we can do is to walk someone through a process that may be conducive. But most the good ones have many "defenses" and must be communicated subliminally
EXCELLENT!
13:40 an attribute of knowledge is *memory*
Such a great episode a subject very hard to understand only by reading about it, so when you can watch and listen to someone explain it in such an easy understandable way, it was such a joy Angela. I throughly enjoyed it, and must now get the book.
angela is such an angel!♥
You can tell she has a crush on him lol
Excellent discussion, Dr. Puca! Thanks for having him on!
I will have to wait to get the book until my finances are in an improved state, as it's pricey...that's Cambridge University Press for you, alas, but it looks great!
I am glad that Prof. Hanegraaf has picked up on something I've been saying for years (including in one of the New Thinking Allowed interviews I did, which Dr. Mishlove did not seem interested in pursuing further), namely that there is an epistemological difference in what people have been pursuing about--for example--the Eleusinian Mysteries: it's not a "what," as in a bit of propositional knowledge that we currently don't know, but instead more like a "how," as in an experience of something, or a "what it's like," a feeling or state of being that is inculcated and--literally!--initiated by the rituals in undergoing the Eleusinian Mysteries (or, for that matter, any Mystery tradition). We have become too used to thinking of "mystery" in the genre fiction and film sense of "whodunnit" and some secret bit of (propositional) knowledge rather than the sensory experiences that lead to supersensory gnosis.
ART!
Great! I just ordered the book because of this interview.
Thanks for the video Angela I've just recently ordered the Kybalion and the emerald tablets of Hermes ,this video is quite welcome whilst I wait for my delivery 🙂
This reminded me of the Levels of Initiation in Theosophy, and now this has blown my head wide open towards searching for the connections and additional analogies between Hermeticism and what's written in the Secret Doctrine... Great interview again, Angela! His book sounds amazing!
If nous is "the instrument which allows us to have gnosis," though not in the traditional expression of mind and intellect as we think of them, then how could this be expanded through applying the Hermetic Principle of Mentalism? If "The All is Mind, the Universe is Mental," it seems to me (pardon the amateur over-simplification here) that our very questioning of these concepts is an example of Divine Cosmic Consciousness experiencing itself, or one hell of an AI being who's been gradually awakening towards self-awareness.
Definitely adding this book to my reading list. I cannot even begin to express how relevant this video was to my particular path.
I just ordered a copy. I first became interested in Professor Hanegraaff's work when I was researching the works of Giordano Bruno. The price for his book is a bit steep, but I'm sure it will be worth every pence.
When it comes to Hermetics, the Kybalion is the only book I find necessary.
@@NoMoreEasyRides I'm in the middle of reading Professor Hanegraaf's book and it is proving very interesting. Maybe you should give it a look in. True scholars (and most especially autodidacts) read widely within their field of interest, as I'm certain you know. :)
I think this might be your finest interview. Excellent work. Thank you.
You're welcome
I missed Wouter’s view on the Kyballion. But as i learned he is from a neigbhour country , i might buy him lunch to discuss it
Hermeticism reminds me a lot of the Neoplatonic/Sufi metaphysics of The Unity of Being (Wahdat al-wujud)
I was already inclined to buy this book from what my friends had said about it but I'm utterly blown away by this explanation and insight. "I am not a Hermetic teacher" was uttered at one point but yes, yes you are. Your insight is invaluable 🙏
Namaste "
A-Team checking in!!! I soooo enjoyed this interview! Thank you! ❤ My recent inner experiences resonate with this interview context. I can only say for myself here, the inner Knowing (not the mind) didn't have a path "technique" however just happened within me which included, in part, a kundalini awakening; a proverbial walking up the mountain of fire, brutal and beautiful. The 3 1/2 times coiled serpent at the base of the spine unleashes. I guess I was ready for the ride. whew lol My prior 15-year curiosity appears to have simmered what occurred within (all while my 3rd eye being open for about 12-years). Now, I so-call walk in a different embodied consciousness. So yes, words fall short. It is all within xx
Finally, Mr. Hanegraaff founded his own Hermetic Order. With Thoth's blessings. Evoeh.
For some reason this topic is very compelling for me. Thanks so much for this interview and sharing 🖤 What a exquisite and comprehensive definition of Gnosis
Thanks!
This is dope!
What a lovely conversation. I especially like the distinction between "Gnosis" and "Gnosticism". Too often the "-ism" get in the way of what it's meant to study. It's also quite "enlightening" to note the early emphasis on literal light (various forms of electromagnetic radiation) itself, which does indeed make up the fundamental nature of Nature (atoms/matter) itself. Cheers! (Star-Splash!)
Really great talk! This sounds so much like Transpersonal Psychology - attaining/revealing wisdom through altered/non-ordinary states of consciousness.
33:47
Is anyone else thinking that the 10 powers of light (7 planetary + 3 fundamental) are actually the sephirots of the Tree of Life?
I really have to get reading more about hermeticism, the way Professor Hanegraaff is talking about it is groundbreaking for me. I never ever heard anything like this before, this changes everything for me
Always fight for this. Lbrp
Merci !
The idea of the source pēgē reminds me of the concept of emptiness in Mahayana Buddhism or the Dao in Daoism
He tells us in English we don’t have the word that he just used in English! English is a wonderful borrower and inventor of words to express ideas. Just because most people haven’t studied isn’t the fault of the language. As if there is this perfect language somewhere.
The Second Coming of Christ by Paramhansa Yogananda Seriously Intense Spiritual waves !!
This is SO on point! I’ve learned that we can read as many books on a subject as we want, but a profound understanding can only occur within. That is not explainable lol