VANILLA SKY : Twenty Years Later
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- As a misunderstood deconstruction of toxic masculinity and corrosive nostalgia - "Vanilla Sky" is something of an A-list oddball. Twenty years on - we look back at this mind-melting, wildly underrated curio.
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Just watched this movie for the first time in probably 10years, loved it as much as ever. Still brings me to tears and leaves me aching for the life I never lived. … I’ll tell you in another life when we are both cats
I'm sure with the tech they have now they can do a director's cut... THOSE scenes that didn't make it are crucial. This movie needs to be seen again.... especially in today's SOCIETY.
@jacksparrow098 totally fair!
Did not hate this movie but enjoyed listening to Cameron Crowe's commentary on the DVD more and of course, in my mind at least, it is impossible to separate or even imagine Vanilla Sky without the incredible music contained within; that's my 2 cents worth
the only part i like is the bathroom scene with kurt russell, which i think helps with the pacing (the final cut’s ending feels a bit rushed) and serves as a reinforcement of the absolutely insane twist. outside of that i fully agree, i like a lot of the additions in CONCEPT, but the shootout feels overexaggerated, and russell’s existential crisis merely distracts from david’s decision.
crowe has said that if given the chance to reshoot the ending just one more time he would, and i agree. the final ending does have flaws, mainly the lack of focus on the emotions at play, explaining too much. i also wish russell’s existential crisis was more naturally blended back into the ending
One of my favorite movies for a long time, last scene with Sigur Ros music just breaks me everytime, this movie really moved me in my teen years, i was a child i agree, but nothing came close to it ever since, i did feel incredible surge of thought and to me it was meaningful. Sigur Ros became one of my favorite bands.
Did you watch the original Spanish film?
Which also had Penelope Cruz in the same role. Both are excellent.
I highly recommend the original though.
Same thing for me, watched it first when I was 12 yo, it hit me in a very deep place and since then kept returning to the movie once in a while for years. The soundtrack was deeply influential for me also, it became the basis of my developing music taste at the time and many of these bands/songs are among my life favorites til this day.
100% agree. Saw this at 17 and it opened doors to my intellectual thought
Fucking Sigur Ros, you heard bloodberg? They will forever be tied to the death of my father and they ruin me. I love/hate them they just destroy me completely
Besides brightening up your day by reminding you of this movie after 2 years, may I suggest Brazil (1985), it may hit home in a simmilar way
this movie was masterfully made, and taps into the deeper "feel" of scenes in ways normal movies only do once or twice. One of my all-time favorites.
That image at 4:05 is Tom and his mom, who was a lovely woman. We screened the final cut privately at Fox on a dub stage and she didn't know this footage was in the cut. Needless to say, Tom's mom, Tom and everyone on the mix stage burst into tears at the end. Working on this film was one of the great privileges of my life and I'm glad it found it's audience, who I love and respect so much.
In 2001 I moved from an abusive home environment, to a loving one. Once I got there, I watched Vanilla Sky on DVD nearly every night for months, and would listen to the soundtrack in my car on the way to get Jack N The Box. The solace and realness of the emotions both in the film, and on the soundtrack, helped to heal and guide me toward a brighter future. It is embedded deeply into my heart and soul on many levels.
Just rewatched it for the first time in many years. Far better than I remembered. What a great film. I think it’s brilliant.
Always thought of this movie as about how making your identity revolve around pop culture can distort real life and darken it even. If you focus to hard on fantasy, then reality can feel disappointing and harsh, making your hobbies into an addiction to further escape reality Given that David's lucid dream is made up of iconography and references and then turns jumbled and nightmarish, it feels like that could be the case. I could be focusing too much on the more Hollywood aspect of it, but everytime I watch it that's what sticks out to me.
That's a very solid and similar reading to what I took away from it
"A place where fleeting flirtations, media references and needle drops are able to offer some comfort in the absence of a meaningful life". Not gonna lie, this hit hard.
Love this movie!! Only truly understood it as an adult.. it’s criminally underrated.
Everything is uNdErRaTeD now. Lmao
The sweet ain't as sweet without the sour 👌👍... We need this to comeback on the big screen.... This society needs it...badly.
The soundtrack breaks my heart and puts it back together.
This movie is severely under rated. It is completely fantastic!
Agreed!
Facts. A stunning film that left me in pain. Few films have ever made me emotional, but this one did.
It gets a lot of hate because it exposes people’s superficiality. It’s shoved in your face for 2 hours, some people left the theater feeling “icky”. I vividly remember multiple people using that word.
A lot of movies have done the disfigured protagonist trope, but none of them had him so viciously try to hold on to that old life and pretend he can continue being the same person. The movies purpose is almost to make you resent him for that, and through introspection you feel guilt for feeling that way.
It’s a great movie.
I will never understand how this is supposedly a bad movie. I’ve loved it from the first time I saw it and it’s definitely one of my favourites and it deserves to be talked about more. Plus I’m a huge Sigur Rós fan so of course.
Saw this in the theater when I was like 19. At first I didn't like it that much. Then when he started yelling for Tech Support and everything turned on its head I finally started to get it. I think. Still up there as one of the best things Cruise has done in my opinion and the last good thing Crowe did.
I love the way Cameron Crowe weaves music into films. I can't hear "Can We Still Be Friends w/o thinking of David stumbling down the stairs of her loft.
nice profile pic. spinal tap?
@@derrickmcadoo3804 but of course😏
Since it came out, Vanilla Sky has been my favorite movie.
This is, by far, one of your best video essays. I vividly remember my first viewing of Vanilla Sky and how harrowing and sad the last 30 minutes are. I also respect how willing Crowe is to make his audience uncomfortable multiple times in the same film. Also, I can never hear “Sweetness Follows” by R.E.M. the same way again.
Really glad you liked the video chief 🙂
I just watched it again after years and I'm depressed now 😞
Just saw it again 2 days ago and hits me as equal as 20 years Ago. Lucid dream will come.
Kurt Russell’s reaction at the end of “I know who am I”-❤️🩹
I've always wondered what it feels like for you guys, when you realize that you're just NPCs in someone else's dream.
I've always loved this movie. A smart, mature, and disturbing romantic dramedy/psychological thriller that i always enjoy rewatching. It never bores me. Watched it recently and still holds up well and even seems more resonsant with modern times than ever before.
And nobody is gonna mention 9/11? He jumped off a skyscraper with the WTC in the background. This was released in Dec 2001. It was still fresh in our heads.
Yeah.... Because it was in David's dreams.
The studios tried to make the director remove them but he argued that it wouldn't make sense because David wouldn't have known they were destroyed. They agreed and let them stay.
This film was had a reference to the philosophical idea of solipsism.That one’s own mind is the only thing sure to exist.One of the greatest philosophers that believed in solipsism was Leibniz also a great Mathematician.The phrase the sweet is never as sweet without the sour is something Leibniz often said in his writings.It was clearly a reference on this way of perception I guess
As happens with so many great movies, this one came out at the wrong moment and for the wrong generation. It's becoming more and more relevant each year as a time capsule when people used to think eternal youth was the norm and the world would only bring better things ahead. Innocent times just before a new generation would come, the one that would start to suffer for the blindsided lives of those of the past 3 generations and are now able to ponder on the vain lifestyle of their forefathers.
I love this movie.
I always loved this movie and thought it was brilliant and told everyone to go see it... maybe it was more popular in Australia but I didn't realise at all that it got slammed.
At the risk of repeating myself. Yet another amazing video!
So basically after the accident, he goes into coma, and at the end he wakes up from it.
Don't overcomplicate it please :)
One of those movies I remember exactly where I was when I first saw it. It sucks that Hollywood rarely takes risks anymore. It's likely that if I didn't see this as a kid/teen that I wouldn't have gotten into all the "different" films I eventually ended up seeing. So in that sense I think Cameron Crowe succeeded, it was a departure for his viewers as well
Kurt Russel was so good in this movie.
Watch the alternate ending,, he steals the show
The whole trope of someone getting/being scarred or injured to show the world their "true inner ugliness" really needs to stop 🤣💀
Another great underrated film. Open your eyes.
last comment: while i understand what you mean by cruise returning to action pics, i consider collateral cruise’s last real attempt to break away from “tom cruise movies.” in a similar way to frank tj mackey in magnolia, vincent in collateral is almost a twisted version of himself, one who puts on a charming, likable persona to disguise his nihilistic worldview and horrific actions.
ironically, i’d say the reason he’s done so much action for the past two decades is to get the public back on his side after the scientology fiasco…which collateral preceded by a year!
Greatest movie ever made. A narcissist gets shown the world through an empath's eyes.
This cinematic masterpiece was such a highly emotional and mental exploration into the fragility of the heart and mind. Needless to say, it was more warm hearted and soothing than I expected. The ending is so emotionally commanding.
Your channel has made me watch movies in a different way. Love your work man. Hopefully I get to work on some narrative pieces like this someday.
you, my friend, just earned a subscriber
Having seen it several times, it takes longer to psych myself up for it each time. It's such a painful experience, like life itself. Why would anyone want to revisit this world? Knowing the ending, how it's counseling toward suicide. Why should I?
I haven't even lived yet.
probably my favourite movie. It’s a poem.
My favorite movie that will hopefully become my reality.
This movie really got to me as a kid
Many movies have themes of 'having' to move on, more than 'choosing' to mo on. I had one year left of teenagerdom when Vanilla Sky came out, and the movie always had a special place for me.
Always had to defend the movie in discussions, surprised that it didn't have just a few more fans.
Amazing thoughtful and very well put together analysis.
Love that movie only thing to complain about is the "Lucid Dream" ... it was not a lucid dream.In a lucid dream you are absolutely in full contol about your dream.
Here is the problem..... Most Americans do not find these existential, thought-provoking movies appealing. This movie is a masterpiece!! One of my favorite movies! To think that who you love, and the relationships you have are just archetypes of fragmented ideas and people, of what you perceive to be the way that things should be. And yes, I've seen the Spanish version, both great.
I always find it weird how youtubers will say that you should watch the movie if you haven't already, after they've spoiled the entire thing.
Amazing Film❤
I loved the movie. Watched it 4 times
Masterpiece.
This was a great overview as well.
@ 6:41 Katie Holmes. its very quick so you have to slow it down.
Curious how the NPCs don't even acknowledge it. Like they can't see it.
It’s an amazing film. It affected me a lot when I first watched it.
excellent analysis
Of the mind benders or hidden reality movies, this is my favorite. Beautiful essay 👌👌
Excellent analysis.
Cameron Diaz wasn't a mentally ill person. She was correctly upset, but then tried to kill him out of rage because she felt like he has no life away from him. It's a normal feeling during a breakup. She's not crazy, but she made a stupid choice.
Second, the whole thing was a dream right? You missed the 2 parts people said they were from Ohio, probably because he was originally from Ohio. The beginning where he sees no one in town is like the beginning of his dream. Then another dream happens right after with this clearly-shown 02/30/01 sticker on his car.
I was hoping you'd go into these points in your video, so I could get another point of view.
Have yet to see the film . But I love your way with words . Poetic prose . More poetic than prosodic .
Commenting for the algorithm Gods till I finish work. Haven't watched it since the cinema. I liked it at the time but am too scared to watch it again in case it's not very good. I remember laughing at THAT Bob Dylan image from The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan album cover...
First time I got drunk, aged 14, my step dad took me to a pub somewhere in Dunfermline. I was tall for my age and it was before I had bum fluff so I possibly looked older than I would at 16. At one point he saw me stumbling along the road to catch up, 4 beers in, and burst out laughing, telling me I looked exactly like Bob Dylan in that image. I think he meant it as a compliment. Ah, growing up in Scotland in the 90s, eh?
I just saw it again after years and I'm depressed as hell, please shake me out of it
I found this movie to be dark and depressing.
Great soundtrack and movie 🎥
This is such a good breakdown
My favorite romance film
A wonderful review. Thank you!!!
An underrated subversion.
My favourite movie ❤️❤️
Finally, one I (mostly) disagree with you on. While I don't hate it or anything and can certainly see it's merit and why you like it, it just fell flat for me. To me it always felt like someone just watched Lynch's 90s output and said, "Hey, I wanna do that." Seeing Abre Los Ojos years later and quite enjoying it only helped to confirm that to me. I watched VS most recently about 5 years ago, and it still just didn't do it for me. It tries really hard to sell how great it is, but just winds up kind of forgettable to me. Even though it's easily the best movie I've seen of his, forgettable describes all of Cameron Crowe's movies in fact.
The soundtrack is fantastic though, I'll give you that (again, usually what CC gets right).
I can’t watch this movie anymore. It’s a good flick, and I’d recommend it to anyone with a heart, but it’s a depressing representation of having to live with life’s choices.
--- THANK YOU, FOR . . . your kindness to this entertaining movie. Mr. Cruise did try.
Quality video!
Thanks!
this movie messed me up for some reason couldnt sleep for 3 days scared the shit out of me
I’ll check it out. Thanks man!
Watch the original Spanish movie as well.
It’s titled ‘Abre Los Ojos’ abd also has Penelope Cruz just before she blew up.
Im going to really have to watch this film. Been meaning to watch it for years but one i've never got round to it.
Thank for the recommendation!
10/10 content as per usual.
Al Most Famous and Vanilla Sky were Crowe's 2 best films.
They had at least 2 things in common: Jason Lee, and...
One of my all time favs
I really enjoyed it when it came out. in fact I watched it other night. great soundtrack too
The version of "Have You Forgotten" by Red House Painters on this soundtrack is one of my favourite songs ever
Here's a little speed bump for ya.
When Tommy boy looks confused on his sprint down the street, he's looking at his future wife.
I'd love to see a video on Manic Pixie Dream Girls! Why do you hate the term?
I feel like it had it's time and place in the early/mid-00s but has now just become a somewhat misogynistic shorthand used to describe any female character that dresses in an eccentric manner or happens to have a hobby
But don’t we all see ourselves through the lens of popular culture and entertainment?.
Apart from our family, we grow up with entertainment and popular culture creating our tastes and personalities, so in a way we are all extensions of entertainment and popular culture.
This video is a good effort but it’s full of post 2000 critical media studies 101 vocabulary, which is a field based on current wave feminism and critical race theory. These are ideologies that you have to believe in or accept in order to view the movie through this very narrow lens. it’s important to view them as theories and not the objective truth. Cameron Crowe likely wasn’t trying to smash the patriarchy with vanilla sky. He wanted to retell a story that makes you think and feel.
I always enjoyed this one.
A cult movie for me, such a brilliant analysis! Thanks.
Consider all the meta references to Cruise's life.
David inherits a media empire that he has no talent for, surrounded by enemies and sycophants.
David Miscavige inherited scientology, which is primarily a publisher, (aside from being a cult) he purged all possible threats, including his wife, and now has Cruise as his sycophant in chief.
Is Cruise playing Miscavige without awareness? Is he the one who needs to wake up?
David and Tom both traded a strawberry blonde for a dark haired pixie, both of them ran away.
Has Tom's dream life become a nightmare? His famous face is looking a little lumpy now. He's only got about a billion more years on his contract, with some times off for good behaviour, if he ever finds the time for that. The years should just fly by.
I know I/F/O, and so I knew that line at 12:19 would absolutely be in the final video.
Look - it's a solid gold line and I don't know why it isn't on a line of stylish baseball caps
@@inframeout Make America Cum Again
There’s three things I just can’t take seriously: Cryogenics, Overpopulation, and Psychics in Sci-Fi written after 1989.
I'll admit - I'm biased. I like much of Cameron Crowe's work, and I think the casting in this film was exceptional. I understand your points about shallow characters, but do not agree in practice. It's a film, not a book. I do wish there were a book that fills in details in these characters, because there's just not enough exposition and information about their lives in the film. Only surface, only what is happening in the moment. I think that Cameron Diaz did an amazing job with her role given the short notice and short time she had to film, but also overall. I think Penelope was also equally stunning in her role. Tom's role is one of the most relatable characters I've seen him play, even if he's a trust fund baby who has it all. He does seem to have compassion at times, which saves his character from being a complete douche.
I think it's overall a better film than you seem to make out, especially 20 years on. It's the little things. There's nothing more.
So basically the ending of the movie is Tom Cruise's right eye and staring at us in his pupil
TECH SUPPORT!!!!!!!
hallelujah
Great analysis, except that you are missing the giant obvious elephant in the film that no one ever, EVER mentions: that Tech Support's whole "explanation" narrative is a LIE. It is just more information that David Aames had pre-programmed for this eventuality.
Tech support can't know anything that Aames didn't pre-approve, least of all anything that happened after his death. Tech Support can't know the true inner feelings of Sophia, who never saw David again. The film shows her appear at David's funeral but never speak to anyone, then disappear. So where does this information come from? From David himself. This is the happy ending he approved of with Life Extension before his death. Which calls into question all of the things Tech Support tells David. Everything.
Let's talk about the implications of Tech Support's lie and how it belies David's character journey! I have read/watched countless fan theories and analyses of this film and not one single one has done anything but venerate David's growth as a good man, when the actual text of the story supports that he is a man who is repeatedly victimized by his own delusions of masculinity and entitlement. Let's talk about that.
Absolutely fantastic points
Battlefield Earth was a magnificent audiobook. The best I’ve ever heard actually. It deserves recognition
yessss i was the 1000th like 😆also this movie is amazing, top 5 tom cruise films
Awesome video essay as always, I/F/O! :D
Random question here, but what fonts do you use for your videos?
It's called "Brandon Grotesque"
but still, i find the original exponentially better
great video, i just wanted to say crowe's elizabethtown is fairly weird especially for 2005 with the suicide attempt and the roadtrip funeral and least manic manic pixie dream girl in 2000s film. i cannot speak for we bought a zoo or aloha tho
"... a life so superficial, so devoid of tangible human connection...", you should see the movie "Eat, Pray Love" with Julia Roberts, now that is as superficial as one can get. Compared to that movie, Vanilla Sky is a masterpiece.
...I love Vanilla Sky, I was talking about the life of the character
@@inframeout I know, I was just saying that if this character was superficial, that other Julia Roberts character was even worse, by far. The whole "self forgiveness in India", I mean... When I think of that movie, I think of paying 20$ to get a cup of tea in a café, sold as some wonder elixir, but its just a water with some residue of dry leaves.
Could someone explain to me what "Lewis Benwell fanboy energy" means? I've not heard of that name before.
Luis Buñuel was an abstract, surrealist filmmaker (and frequent collaborator with Salvador Dali)
10:54 why do you hate that term?
I would like you to watch and reflect on mr nobody
This movie upset me tbh.
I think imdb dis and underrated the movie too much! Hey imdb, open your eyes!
The only Tom Cruise movie i have actually enjoyed as a good film.
Thumbnail and description alone said enough, pass.