Nuclear Power Can Save the Poor and the Planet | James Walker | EP 447
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with nuclear physicist and CEO of Nano Nuclear, James Walker. They discuss why nuclear power is continuously sidelined for less efficient, less safe forms of power, the change from civic - massive - reactors to truck-sized units, the refinement process of uranium, and the true environmental cost of mass poverty.
James Walker is a nuclear physicist and was the project lead and manager for constructing the new Rolls-Royce Nuclear Chemical Plant; he was the UK Subject Matter Expert for the UK Nuclear Material Recovery Capabilities and the technical project manager for constructing the UK reactor core manufacturing facilities. Walker’s professional engineering experience includes nuclear reactors, mines, submarines, chemical plants, factories, mine processing facilities, infrastructure, automotive machinery, and testing rigs. He has executive experience in several public companies, as well as acquiring and redeveloping the only fluorspar mine in the United States.
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This episode was filmed on January 30th, 2024
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- Chapters -
(0:00) Coming up
(0:31) Intro
(2:20) The applications of micro reactors
(9:15) Micro reactors cannot have a core meltdown
(10:49) How basic reactors work
(14:45) Why Nano Nuclear’s designs put them ahead
(19:45) Bringing a new renaissance to the U.S. nuclear industry
(21:05) Why isn’t nuclear power everywhere?
(25:03) Energy equals wealth, wealth allows for long-term thinking
(29:34) The bizarre alignments of the Green Lobby, making things worse
(33:30) Building the necessary infrastructure, hurdles, and strengths
(38:58) From the ground to the reactor, how Nano Nuclear refines fuel
(43:45) A stable supply, enriching yellow cake uranium
(45:44) Transportation of materials: problems and solutions
(50:19) Progress toward full utilization
(1:02:30) Is nuclear power safer than solar and wind?
(1:03:09) Phasic energy isn’t going to cut it
(1:06:02) We cannot eliminate the use of fossil fuels (plastic, fertilizer, etc.)
(1:07:24) Building a better grid, the price drops at scale
(1:10:49) Public relations and espionage concerns
(1:18:33) If you really care about the environment, lift people out of poverty
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As a PhD Engineer myself I love these technical conversations on the JBP podcast. What makes me a bit disappointed is that it gets a low view count. Kudos to Dr. Peterson for shining light on these extremely important topics!
free energy would destroy global warming false narrative from co2, which would stop global government new world order thats why they kill free energy scientists
Unfortunately dumbness is now abundant in the US. A cat sliding down a stair rail will get millions of views
I know right? He adds huge value to the conversation by thinking through these technical public policy matters "out loud" for the rest of our benefit.
Wonder your opinion on thorium bed reactors
At least he’s getting views. This guy would be covered in dust without the JBP influence 😂
What’s extra sad is to see JBPs subscribers count vs these noname idiots pulling pranks or running around in their huge mansions with their “fam”.
We are in the first steps of “Idiocracy” :(
Start buying stock in Gatorade ! 😂
As a German it's so frustrating having a government that does everything in it's power to f*ck up in every area of politics. But it's especially bad with energy and climate policies.
It's just unbelievable how stupid our policies have been over the last 30 years. Shutting off the last nuclear facilities during the energy crisis caused by the Ukraine war has been the icing on the cake.
And our citizens are paying the price...
Look on the bright side, compared with the last one, you’re in the running for “Most Improved terrible government of the century “
Organise and replace your government
Hello!
Can you give some perspective about energry prices in Germany? how bad it is really?
@@CircumambulationMaedia Working on that, will take some more thime tho...
@@Neront90 Just asked Google, for new customers in Germany its about 25cents/kWh in the US its about half 12,69 ct/kWh
The mass media has done a very good job of confounding nuclear power with nuclear weapons. The two are totally different. Nuclear power is very safe. Australia needs it!
cant u just make kangaroos run on a threadmill
And when they don't do that, they bring up Chernobyl and Fukushima. Which were both examples of terrible management instead of the norm.
they do that with vaping and smoking too,if you ask them you beter sty on cancer sticks rather than vaping.corruption has no limits.
we have 2 reactors already, but we must make more solar panels and carbon credits.
Also Australia has some old mines that we could get going reasonably quickly if you want to send the money and Workforces
Correct me if I'm wrong. Australia is going nuclear, they're building submarines with the British, aren't they?
Brilliant conversation! We've used nuclear fission for energy production for 70! years, yet we rely on inferior methods because of politics and corruption.
Dearest Dr. Peterson, I just got the news that you have lost a beloved friend and colleague in Rex Murphy. My heart goes out to you in your loss and grief. I cherish your very first interview with him, when you were so ill and fragile and raw, and he was so tender and gentle with you. His was a man’s sensitiveness and tenderness and tact and it was heart melting. And every sentence he spoke was pure poetry. I don’t have words for the sense of grief and loss I feel and I know yours is so much greater. I would gather you into a hug if I could. Since I can’t I hope this little note will serve as a hug.
“He was a man; take him for all in all. We shall not look upon his like again.”
With Ruth Anne’s love
P. S. I hope that the Daily Wire will prioritize on releasing the documentary you two did together, as a tribute to a great, and a good, man.
Well spoken.
free energy would destroy global warming false narrative from co2, which would stop global government new world order thats why they kill free energy scientists
Ah I hadn't realised he had passed. A fine man and proper journalist
I'm sure he appreciates being reminded about it by random people on every video.
Deepest sympathies for you loss Dr Peterson.
Energy scarcity is very profitable
N.G.O.s , laundry money around to "help the poor people" " the poor people" created poor by their definition and society they created and illuminate. The paper they claim has value is the same paper they created. "Democracy knocking st your door" military industrial complex waiting to drop bombs to sell that land to blackrock contracts to rebuild the land they destroyed to generate profits for their buddies.
Precisely
Great take!
I'd add: fake scarcity is very profitable (Energy, Health-technologies, Diamonds, Food, etc.)
@@lightingman117I'll edit: monopoly is very profitable
@@lisajones1438 Agreed. Though IMO the main problem (this comes from Thomas Sowell's Basic Economics Books) Isn't the monopoly itself, it is the bad regulations that stifle innovation/competition. Those bad regulations get passed into law because of the monopoly pumping money into legislation. Get money out of politics pleeasseee.
I've been using Nano-nuclear's reactor public documentation for research papers for a couple of years now. I've been heavily advocating and trying to change minds to favor nuclear. The company's designs have been an incredibly helpful means of advocating for reactors. Most of the engineers in my school are highly in favor of nuclear power, and advocate for the removal of wind.
Incredible oxymoron. I live in a world where it is not feared to tempt nuclear Apocalypse with bombs,but we can't create energy with the same technology, If people were really that against nuclear power we shouldn't be provoking it at the same time
advocating for nuclear is stupid and so are you
@@johnhilderbrand9204 this is bait
It’s just capitalism to let them all fairly compete in the market and see who wins.
How efficient are they? The current reactors are less than 3%
Absolutely phenomenal!!! I am going to the United States Naval Academy and will be studying Nuclear Engineering. I hope to follow a similar path a James, that is from the military to the private sector. Ultimately ending up transforming our energy landscape. Energy = Wealth!!! Type I Civilization here we come.
😂hy3sse0l
Awesome! I’m in NUPOC and am also planning the same path. Navy is definitely one of the best ways to get into nuclear!
So basically the food truck of the nuclear industry. Love it!
I love Dr. Peterson. But that’s the most excited I’ve ever seen him in an interview. He should become the spokesman for this company.
That's true, he could be a spokesman for the nuclear industry in general.
The world needs more climatologues but thanks God there are more than enough carbondioxydologues.
these podcasts are so informative. i'd have never thought i'd listen to close to two hours on a physicist speak on nuclear energy, or a harvard professor on dietary reforms. thanks for the quality work, as always.
What an excellent discussion. As a mechanical engineer (and Nuclear energy advocate) I would relish the opportunity to work with someone like James on such a revolutionary technology.
Also, Dr Peterson's ability to pick up and summarize such technical information with ease is sublime.
high end actual science vs well..
Most of the reason why we are not using nuclear power is the big oil, and coal conglomerates are not willing to give up their power to give the world free energy. It's about the money and the power they hold over the governments.
As a nuclear-mechanical engineer, I approve this message. The industry has some very smart, highly passionate, accountable, and high integrity engineers, both large scale and in the SMR world.
Wow, I didn't know I could enjoy a podcast about nuclear energy. It filled me with optimism for the future. Thank you for this conversation with such an intelligent innovator.
Thank you for this. Nuclear power is absolutely what we need.
I think Dr. Peterson would have made an excellent engineer in another life.
Any intellectual he would have been good at, so long as it was his passion
@@GregoryShtevensh I don't know if that's always true. I think some people naturally possess inherent proclivities that contribute to their success in certain fields while making them less suited for others.
For instance, electrical engineering requires a lot of abstract thinking and painting imaginative pictures to come up with solutions. This is because electromagnetic physics is largely invisible, and it's not nearly as intuitive as classical mechanics.
I know plenty of talented mechanical engineers that don't have the temperament to study electrical, and vise versa. Although they may find the field fascinating, their brains are wired to solve physical problems on macroscopic levels. It's often less about passion, and more about inherent personality traits.
@tjcogger1974 you're absolutely right.
The personality types that make up certain trades etc.
However, still... his personality will govern his passions.
NuScale still has a very solid design and use case. Nice to see the shoutout!
What Peterson describe as Uranium in lead is pretty much a lead reactor. Those exist and they work well and are pretty simple. There are some issues with them that have to be considered.
Currently the company Sealer is marketing a reactor like that and is setting up a facility to make a prototype pretty close to where i live.
This should be shared as widely as possible. Thanks for backing the nuclear push!
You need to be investing in shares of Western based miners and converters. Canada, USA and Australian companies. Near term producers..Next couple of years. It's got massive supply demand issues which means prices going up for years to come. Never in a straight line and it's a volatile sector but we're talking anywhere from 5x to 20x your money depending on the company.
At last, some promising news on the energy front! A reason to feel optimistic about something...Thanks Dr. Peterson.
Love these talks with smart people. Know questions to ask and a well thought out answer. Thank Both of You for your WORK 💌
I have had many discussions with a family member (boiler mechanic) and former mentor (contributed to uranium mining around elliot lake)
Nuclear power generation is by far the best source of baseload power generation.
The disaster at Fukushima could have been a completly different situation if the reactor was CANDU style.
Not just baseload either, nuclear power plants can be made load-following as well. The ones in France can, IIRC
@@kaasmeester5903 Practical Engineering has a excellent video on the operating principals of electrical grids.
Nuclear certainly can ramp up or down to follow loads however (to my understanding) that is still considered to be a base load, not a short term reaction to drops in frequency.
That's where IC engines turning generators shine due to quickly being able to change stator speed and having a wide range of rotational speeds available.
I love the idea of using gantry cranes to stack mass and take advantage of gravity, or using flywheels to store energy that can be deployed on a moments notice
How about Chernobyl?
Don't you feel lied to?
James said multiple times that nobody has ever died from a nuclear power plant accident.
They intentionally never er mentioned Chernobyl once.
I'm a big supporter of nuclear power and have been watching Jordan when he was just a professor.
This is the first time I feel like he effectively lied.
@@axlbazz1 Chernobyl was a RBMK style reactor.
The only technology I am a proponent of is CANDU Heavy water reactors. They are significantly more expensive but in the event of losing the heavy water coolant, the reaction diminishes significantly. CANDU is magnitudes safer.
Chernobyl was also a complete screw up due to human error.
I appreciate anyone critical of nuclear literally because human error is the wildcard and nuclear is high risk high reward.
I think the word lie is to combative.
And that's exactly why criticism is so important
I think instead of saying he lied you would take higher ground by pointing out the context of what he meant by people dying from say Chernobyl so other can have a more comprehensive understanding of what was being said. Chernobyl killed countless people directly and Its screwed up how they went in without being brought up to a competent level.
He was talking generally. However cancer rates are definitely questionable for more countless reasons
We need James on more Podcasts. This conversation needs to spread. Timcast IRL seems like another big pod that could be a good fit.
Probably moreso his culture war show. As a fan of Tim’s, IRL has a tendency to miss the mark of utilizing specialized guests. But a culture war episode with James and Daniel Turner would be solid.
“Compared to other energy sources, nuclear fuel is the cleanest, most environmentally friendly one. Like wealth distribution, only the top 3 per cent is really toxic.”
- Dr. Sabine Hossenfelder
(German physicist)
Thank You once again for broadening my knowledge ❤
We should just call it steam power.
Lol that’s all it is really. Some people would not grasp the process...
Thanks Keep it up, you're doing great work it's appreciated.
Great Podcast! I've been advocating for nuclear energy for a long time. It drives me mad how overblown are the safety concerns and how ignored are the negatives of other types of power production that are being pushed forward politically
I love Dr Peterson as a person and he has charming personality I always look upon him as my mentor❤❤❤❤❤
People from Utah are called Utahns. As a Utahn, I can confirm
No they are called Utahamians.
Great talk my grandfather has been beating the drums for nuclear power and molten salt reactors for 50 years. Love how France uses a standard reactor design. “Society needs to fundamentally use less power (not going to happen) or you have a 70% nuclear power backbone 20% ramp-able power (coal, hydro, natgas) and 10% renewables”
James Walker should have Jordan join the Board of Directors of NNE.
Time 25:40 Although the discussion included the safety aspects of nuclear power to aquire the materials and produce nuclear power, but the one key aspect that was not discussed is how to safely and responsibly manage the toxic waste that is created from nuclear power, which remains toxic for thousands of years. This toxic waste is already adding up, and will only increase as more uses of nuclear power is adopted. A followup discussion including this subject of toxic waste management would be greatly appreciated.
The Yucca Mountain waste facility has been planned for decades, and safe casks for transportation have already been manufactured. The solution exists. The opposition is entirely political.
Absolutely love the summaries! Brilliant discussion!
thorium nano MSR already done,
This is amazing work Jordan I can't thank you enough. Energy is everything and has the power to alter all lives with rich benefits and freedoms for ALL.
Thank you very much!
This is a topic that needs discussed more. It’s crazy that we don’t have cheap relatively green energy from nuclear at least in all western countries. That would be one less bill to worry about for everyone
I read a book about 10 years ago that covered the generation of electricity in the USA. It covered several options including nuclear. It is called "Power Hungry: The Myths of 'Green' Energy and the Real Fuels of the Future".
This was excellent. James Walker explained the technology very well and Dr Peterson, as ever, had done his homework and asked very intelligent questions. I do hope James's company will flourish. It seems like such a great idea, especially for use in remote communities and industries. I wonder if many people are needed to run the nano nuclear reactor once it is installed ? Or does it more or less run itself ? It was staggering to hear what the people in that remote community James mentioned have to spend on diesel for their generators each year. You just need some forward-thinking politicians with good advisors who understand the science to take this up and roll it out over the coming years. Wind farms and solar panels are not very efficient and are also a blot on the landscape, as well as the fact that wind farms disturb birds and wildlife and can even have a detrimental effect on the health of any people who live close to them. The way James explained it made this technology sound very safe, but the word nuclear does scare many people even though incidents like Chernobyl are very rare. Thanks to both of you for making a complex subject easier to understand for all us non scientists. 👍
Absolutely amazing! Please keep us informed as this progresses
Thanks for the show guys 🍻
Jordan Peterson changed my life in such a positive way. Thankyou sir for all you do and all you stand for
This was so good I'm gonna listen again tomorrow. Thank you so much!
Absolutely loved this episode!
Anyone paying attention knows that nuclear energy is the way foward. It's that simple, we need to get over the fear and incompetence.
This man's background makes him an extremely effective interviewer.
For his questions and his ideals are completely separate. It's interesting to watch.
If you make enough nuclear, you don't need fossil fuels or anything for backup supply, you would simply have the base load be 20 percent or so higher than the maximum realistic load, and instead of having backup supply you have backup demand.
Honestly the only issue of nuclear on a national scale and a problem for EDF here in France is the surplus to stock. That's also why the EU put such ridiculous legislations on French electricity because of how much and cheap EDF exported electricity.
@@biodidu25 Yea, but they wouldn't have had to export the electricity, if they had some form of dynamic electricity demand. You could probably find a company that wouldn't mind only being allowed to run servers during certain hours when standard demand is lower, that way overall demand is always the same.
There will always be a need for oil. Plastics, lubricants, clothing, and a hell of a lot more are made from oil. You can't have wheels or phones (or a million other things) without oil.
@@gethriel yep, I said it wouldn't be necessary for any backup power generation.
You'd still want back up gas turbines or diesel generators. You can't start up a reactor (safely) in less than ten minutes. If you take an automatic trip of a reactor for some random failure, say goodbye to 1000-1400 MW of power. You need emergency response to stabilize the grid when crap hits the cooling tower fans, and that's not where nuclear is at its best. Nuclear is great, but load following is a struggle especially with the old, big reactors. Make nuclear the base load, and fossil fuels the transient/emergency response, and you're set. -Your neighborhood, friendly reactor operator.
👍👍👍 toujours passionnant Mr J ! ❤
Amazing interview.
My nephew is an important engineer in the nano-nuclear reactor industry. Smartest guy that I know.
Is he working in Ontario or New Brunswick?
@@ymwo97679 italy
Congratulations Reverend Jordan! You were able to publish an entire video without preaching the sermon to we lowly apostates. I haven't seen this in months, well done.
What do you mean?
@@TheRUclipsGame Do you have a more specific question? I will gladly answer. Otherwise, I mean what I said.
@@user-dl7kp2fn4b Well, a specific couple of questions, in that case.
Why do you call him _reverend_ Jordan?
What sermon specifically does he preach?
Why do you refer to yourself and others as apostates?
@@TheRUclipsGame Most people I have known vernacularly use Reverend and Preacher interchangeably. When my parents took me to church when I was young, we referred to the person who preached the gospel as "Preacher". But if you want to be technical, the more appropriate reference would be Preacher Jordan, because Reverend is a clergy specific title. But you know what I meant.
Definition of Preacher: One who preaches; one who discourses publicly on religious subjects.
Jordan does this on about every video, so he is therefore a Preacher.
Definition of Sermon:
1 A religious discourse, especially one delivered as part of a service.
2 An often lengthy and tedious speech of reproof or exhortation.
So in the first definition, a Sermon is about religion, usually designed for a religious setting, but not necessarily, or as in the second definition, it can be an exhortion of any subject that can include religion.
The Bible is the book used by the Christian Religion, and their general practice is to reference text in this book when giving sermons. Their sermons commonly draw parallels between this text with present day circumstances. Jordan in nearly every video states from memory in his own words, passages in this bible, and relates them to present day circumstances. Therefore, by definition, Jordan is preaching Sermons, and that defines him as a Preacher. So "Preacher Jordan" is an accurate characterization.
Definition of an Apostate:
One who has forsaken the faith, principles, or party, to which he before adhered; esp., one who has forsaken his religion for another; a pervert; a renegade.
I use this word more subjectively. Jordan didn't call me an Apostate, but he is speaking to a mixed audience. I watch his videos, while not as often as before, due to the interesting topics, his reasoning skills, and intellect. As most secular babyboomers, we identified with a religion earlier in life. That's how it was in the 70-80s. So, from that perspective, we have forsaken a faith.
My need for status and self-righteousness isn't so intense as Jordans, that I need to delude myself into believing that morality is determined by a two-thousand year old book written by anonymous authors. If I was to find a book and claim it is the word of God, and say "Jordan, here is the word of God", because he is a rational person, he wouldn't be convinced. But with a book that a lot of other people believe, he can therefore gain status, an innate human proclivity.
Status is a seesaw, to rise your status, you have to lower others, at least in your mind. So subconsciously or consciously, he sees those that don't adhere to his moral doctrines, as less; he looks down on them. So when he drawed me into his intermittent sermons with secular titles, and then virtue signals, and self-righteously criticizes the morals of people, who as a secular, I approve of, or quotes the book that has been used to judge and subjugate free thinkers like me for centuries, is no different from my perspective, than calling me lost, immoral, of lesser chatacter, or therefore an Apostate.
Jordan has a right to his beliefs as I do mine, but some things are not appropriate for mixed audiences. He should preach his sermons to only those who seek them. This is why I rarely watch his videos anymore. The only reason I watched this one was because I couldn't fathom how he can inject a religious sermon into nuclear power.
@@user-dl7kp2fn4b Thank you for the thorough answer; I genuinely appreciate the drawn-out nature and layout of your response.
I asked in the first place because of the disingenuous nature of your original comment, which, if you were to say wasn't disingenuous, I'd find it hard to believe given some of the assumptions made in your second response there.
I haven't watched enough of Jordan's videos to vouch one way or the other - not looking to try and defend (or criticize) his Biblical views.
Two accounts, here:
One, it seems rather presumptuous to state that he looks down on those that don't adhere to what he believes the standard is. I word it that way because I can't even say "his moral doctrines," as like I stated earlier, I haven't watched enough of his content to vouch either way for his Biblical views. I argue the point at all because that's not honest. You assume he's trying to up his status. Do you think people that are trying to up their status constantly make enemies? You can try to argue all you want but the fact of the matter is you don't know.
Second, if you don't like being challenged in a public space, that's on you. He's allowed to share what he wants with his audience however he wants to. No one's forcing you to be here. You are simply not his audience, if that's the case. And that's ok. Whoever doesn't want to watch doesn't have to. Simple as that. To suggest that he should only say certain things because of the audience is preposterous. You can't talk ideas that way. You can't have a debate, a discourse, a discussion. And what if it's true? You don't only tell the truth in certain places to certain people. That's not honest, either.
Thank you!
I feel nuclear power is the answer to our energy crisis
Imagine being one of his employees and then hear about the 20 page document Jordan proposes, 'oh man, we are getting homework soon aren't we' 😂
Thanks for keeping us updated! I feel sympathy and empathy for our country. low income people are suffering to survive, and I appreciate Deborah Lee Clark. You've helped my family with your advice. imagine investing $30,000 and receiving $95,460 after 28 days of trading.
I began investing in stocks and Def earlier this year, and it is the best choice I've ever made. My portfolio is rounding up to almost a million and I have realized that when a stock makes it to the news, chances are you're quite late to the party, the idea is to get in early on blue chips before it becomes public. There are lots of life changing opportunities in the market, and maximize it.
What opportunities are there in the market, and how do I profit from it?
You can make a lot of money from the
market regardless of whether it strengthens or crashes. The key is to be well positioned.
I would really like to know how this actually works.
All you need is a good capital and the
service of a professional broker, with those your investment will most certainly produce high yields.
Thank you for this great conversation. Nuclear energy is such an interesting topic. Maybe you could talk to Justin Huhn or to Doomberg to continue it.
One thing that I did not hear mentioned was that concentrating or enriching Uranium means increasing the amount of fissile Uranium 235 in the product. Naturally occurring Uranium is about 99.3 percent non fissile Uranium 238 and about 0.7 percent Uranium 235. They convert the uranium to a gas and use a centrifuge to to remove a portion of the non fissile Uranium 238. The final product is usually up to 30 percent Uranium 235 and the rest is Uranium 238.
Have said this for damn near 2 decades at this point; If you don't support nuclear, you are simply unserious regarding climate change.
If you don't support nuclear power you're utterly unserious about anything!
I have also said this many, many times .
Are there any good videos out there explaining the German energy problem in more detail?
Extremely entertaining and educating interview! Loved how he just went with your definitions (and my super basic definitions as I was trying to keep up with you guys in my head) and explanations of the cleanest and safest energy form, but what I found entertaining was how he enjoyed your questions and smiled and sometimes laughed 😁👍
What is the nature around you, and you recognize that and bring out the best, for harmony. Enjoyed it alot!
Jordan, you didn't have to sell me on nuclear power.
I am already sold.
My big question is: Why is this amazingly safe and green power not available everywhere?
How do we overcome the people opposing it?
I just can't understand resistance to fission power.
KGB
The reason is actually quite depressingly simple: The Cold War hangover.
“Nuclear” means Hiroshima and Nagasaki to most people. They think having a nuclear reactor in their city is the equivalent of installing a nuclear bomb in their backyard. The media demonized the very word for over 40 years, for multiple generations, and those people are now the people who are in power and making legislation.
It’s completely preposterous, but unfortunately that IS the reason.
SAFER PROVIDED it is not anywhere near Tornadoes, Hurricanes or Earthquakes. Don't kid yourself ANY OTHER WAY. "I'm already sold." Pfffft. THINK, easily amused guy. Fn THINK. It only works if you read and remember but at least try. There are no constrains in your comment, just likes. "Look everyone, it's Jordan! He said something so I believe it! No further thought required!"
Because keeping people energy poor is a critical part of the system of control that keeps people in economic serfdom.
@@timburke127 indubitably...
Our society has suffered greatly from the bad reputation of Nuclear Power
@StefanRial elaborate
KGB
A lot of lefties worked hard to achieve this.
it has suffered more from idiots promoting nuclear
@grannyannie2948 Funded at the start by the KGB, and indubitably now encouraged by the CCP.
Cheaper energy->
Increased self-determination->
Decreased authoritative dependence->
Well obviously we can't have that
All this is absolutely interesting. Thanks, Dr. Peterson
Could you please make sure that guest record high quality audio?
Makes it more professional, pleasant and easy to listen when both are equally high in bitrate. A separate phone memo recording is better than the standard audio quality of a zoom call recording…
Really important subject so is a shame it hurt my ears a tiny bit, hope this might help in the future!
Dont complain. Be grateful that you are able to consume this for free!
You (and the 6 others that liked your comment) dont have to watch this video if you cant physically do it.
@@nyChannel09It obviously wasn’t a complaint, it was a respectfully put suggestion for improvement; which most people appreciate.
This person is clearly a fan of the Pod.
@@nyChannel09
Or, hear me out, steps could be taken to improve the sound quality, that way people could enjoy the informative interviews and the people being interviewed could get their information out to more people.
@nyChannel09 Of course it was not a complaint. Your own comment is reflexively negative and rather stupid. He obviously was making a positive suggestion - one that I agree with, as I had trouble understanding the guest, and therefore missed some of what he was saying. Creators are happy to receive constructive criticism.
I can hear him perfectly fine
Greens in Germany may secretly miss the mustache guy
I don't buy for a second the idea that fascism is defined by nationalism, and that the national socialists weren't socialist.
We need this!!!!
Love the highlight on Nuclear power. Wrote a paper on it 10 years ago in college.
My professor was all over solar and wind power, I outlined why those were poor energy producers and that Nuclear was the only sustainable path forward for our planet.
Love that Germany is proving me right in nearly every way possible.
If people care about other people, energy & education are the only sectors we should be investing in, not the crazy carbon neutral footprints everyone wants.
So frustrating that we have (nearly) all the technological solutions we need to survive as a species for the next 10k-years and we don't implement them due to corrupt government & corporate collusion.
I'm sad that the engineer (James) doesn't really understand the problems of Government (states it is a funding issue). No, it's not. JBP as always wipes the floor with people's reluctance to working hard. (it's not their problem).
As someone who works in the government, specifically with DoE, it is not a lack of funding, it is a prioritization problem, which is really a human problem (why should I do all that work when I can just hand you this list of regulations that don't actually apply to you and make you do the work?)
There's a bit of a DIE problem too, but most people just suck it up and move on. No one I know has the balls (COVID was evident of that) to tell the HR/Safety types to go pound sand and let us create real solutions than be hampered by your fake compassion and desire for power/control.
I used to work for the Canadian Nuclear Society and now work in marketing, and I have been saying for years they need to do a complete rebranding. Think of KFC. At the beginning everyone remembered it was Kentucky Fried Chicken, but eventually that was forgotten. I would love to help if there is an opportunity!
chad moves sir, I like to say, don't let these mf scare you
Jordan Peterson is such a good listener
Dr. Peterson you touched on something with this episode. I know you've talked to Premier Smith before, with some of their recent announcements, this would be something to bring to their attention.
I love this episode as well as the one on fusion power! Please talk to more physicists
I lived on Guam off and on for a period of about ten years. James mentioned that micro reactors could be an energy boon for Island communities. Guam would seem to me to be an ideal place for a small nuclear electrical generation plant. For many years Guam's electrical grid has been powered by a diesel or fuel oil generation plant. When I lived on Guam, the population was about 150,000. (It's now 170,000.) Islandwide electrical power was generally unrelable with occasional blackouts and even more frequent brownouts. Many residents are forced to have expensive auxiliary generator plants for backup service. Most multi unit dwellings like condo developments, apartment buildings, and hospitals have large diesel powered generators to provide at least the minimum of power for refrigerators and interior lighting. Everytime a typhoon hits the island, which is fairly often, the power would be out for a few weeks or if it was a super typhoon, for several months while public power utility workers and emergency responders from Hawaii and the US west coast struggled to restore downed distribution wires and above ground transformers and poles. Obviously, nuclear wouldn't solve that problem, only an underground distribution system can do that. Nevertheless, nuclear generation would resolve a lot of the unreliability issues that result from equipment breakdowns at the current plant. This is important from a national defense standpoint because Guam is home to major US military bases and a strategic US Navy port facility. Guam and the Northerm Marianas Islands like Saipan, Tinian, and Rota could definitely benefit from reliable small nuclear generating stations, particularly in time of war that could restrict resupplies by sea of conventional fuel for existing plants.
Wouldn't oceanic storms be a very dangerous damaging force to any reactors? To me that sounds like another Fukushima waiting to happen. If it would be feasible for Guam, how would engineers work around possible natural disasters playing a role in meltdowns and leaks?
Guam's grid is such a mess lol, memories
@@maryamjoha These are self-contained micro-reactors which are walk-away-safe.
It would be nice to have a similar conversation about nuclear waste; about its origin and various options for treatment, storage and final disposal. That is where people worry most about.
The current waste issue is with old technology where the rods are only about 10% used before disposal. You can find lots of discussion on waste reuse and mitigation by 3rd generation nuclear tech online.
JORDAN PETERSON,
Life is a compilation of numerous simple-complexities.
Thanks Mr Peterson, this is a nice interview and is very informative. 👏
I'd like to hear more about progress with thorium reactors.
I would like to see a breakdown of legitimate arguments as to why it is not viable because it seems like the best of nuclear without the dangers of meltdowns or dangers byproducts.
He did mention SMRs several times. Thorium is only one element in the new arena of SMRs, there are others, some only combine thorium in the process.
When Ontario went into nuclear power in the’70s, one “claim” made was that the electricity generated would be ‘to cheap to meter.’ The latter part of this discussion gives that hope once again.
Thanks you peterson❤️
There is no turbine on the Voyager spacecraft. It's a RTG (Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator). No moving parts.
I’m a huge supporter of nuclear. My question is, how do we insure nuclear power plants? I’m not in favor of government subsidizing waste and pollution. Can a market based nuclear industry be built and insured from a purely economic standpoint?
Nuclear hardly pollutes at all and nuclear waste isn't as big a problem as most people think.They can absolutely be solved without subsidies.
Thorium reactors could burn it up and leave no dangerous byproducts.
Yours is the critical question - look up "Gordian Knot" "Jack Devanney" .
my dad, being in the energy business, heard and told me about modular reactors the size of a container 20 years ago. the idea has stuck with me ever since and i have been a huge fan for just the reasons jordan brought up in the beginning. we are in dire need of redundancy on all of our major systems; energy, water, sewage, transportation, food production and storage. if we can get modular/micro systems distributed it would secure these systems and make people richer with clean cheap energy. my opinion is that governments should have been throwing billions a year at this problem to get it solved for the last 2 decades. i also think that solar has a place as a redundant backup supply for critical choke points in infrastructure along with fossil fuel generators. diversity of sources should be celebrated and used in conjunction with each other. the cost of doing so could save many lives when the systems we have degrade and parts fail unexpectedly.
Dr. Peterson, I would appreciate you asking for more detail on the waste generated from nuclear, next time you do a podcast with an expert on nuclear energy. I believe that is is the best cheap energy, but when to trying to convince others of this, they always bring up the waste. I don't have answers for this, beyond saying that the dangers have been exaggerated. Asking about quantities, the length of time that it's dangerous, and what facilities would be required to responsibly house it would be appreciated.
I love that this is being discussed! I embarked on my mission to prove wind power was the way forward over 20 years ago for my dissertation at University, funny conclusion was that nuclear was not only cleaner and less invasive to the planet but also the ONLY way to produce the amount of electricity required as we evolve and need more and more! So its taken 20 years but finally i see proof i was not wrong. Ironically, i live in central Scotland in the middle of a huge windfarm that occupies all the land around my farm 😂
Wind power *CAN* work, when it is implemented correctly.
Wind power alone is unreliable, and cannot be used as a baseload power source.
Wind power paired with battery storage is reliable, and can be used as a baseload power source.
I hear you. Where I live in Australia they are clearing ancient forest to build solar farms to replace hydro.
Lots of taxpayers money to be made from renewables that need replacing every ten years. Hmm
Yeah, but what about all the destruction of wildlife that wind power causes. From what I've heard, it's quite significant.
@@etherashe5164 it is indeed, and because people are underinforned about the negative side of 'green energy' such as wind farms they are against using nuclear when really its the only way to produce what we demand with minimal effect on the earth
@@etherashe5164 just to confirm, it is not my wind farm, I refuse to let them destroy my family's farm in order to extend it, other members of my family would happily just cash in but I am fighting it because of what I know, and where I love 🌳🌲🌳🌲🌳
keep up the good work JP 👍🏻
That's the same conclusion Prager has reached: if you profess to care about the environment, then you should support using nuclear energy. I agree with him and with Professor Peterson.
It's crazy that I have to tune into a JBP podcast to hear a rational, intelligent conversation about energy security.
Thats cool...waterless systems would be an asset here in fridged Canada.
I have long been in favor of micro reactors. One of the advantages is that you don’t need long transmission lines.
For remote areas it can make sense. Ideally you want to go as big as possible though. Efficiency increases as you go bigger.
very interesting
One of rare discussions that bring me on a positive path and even wish I'd be helping. Well, if I only would, I surely could, I guess : great changes occur when visionary, methodic people initiate it... and are supported by their community, which is where madness awaits most of the time. We're talking about a game changer much, much greater than even the Internet here. But we've come to that situation where the cheaters rule wealth quite completely (as much as disastrously), and they're not letting such good spread out unless they are the ONLY ones taking advantage of it, and that along the full spectrum since these frenzied never have enough. They'd rather annihilate mankind than letting other ways develop and flourish... Which they precisely are trying to accomplish now we're facing every decade the central systemic collapse they're cranking up over and over. Anyways, thank you and your mates for grabbing that monster by the tentacles. May we collectively succeed in freeing the greater number : to rephrase Sankara it will be water for count, or champagne for c"nts.
Politicians exist to profit off of your problems, not solve them.
You forgot unelected bureaucrats, lobbyists, and special interest groups.
And to throw taxpayers money at their mates.
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Slight correction, the generator on the Voyager probe is a Radioisotope Thermoelectric generator, which doesn't use a turbine to generate power but a thermocouple.
Dr Peterson, an excellent and very important conversation. One thing not covered, but is very important. In my opinion one of the biggest failures of the 'Renewables' industry is what happens to the equipment when it reaches the end of it's useful life. How it is disposed of or recycled. It would be good to add that information to that already provided by James.
Thanks
TLDW:
Yes.
First, it's actually a lot safer than you think. Also the waste management is nothing like most people believe. Kyle Hill (here on RUclips) has an excellent explainer on nuclear waste management.
Second, its resource consumption with respect to its power output is unparalleled. There is nothing that compares. With wind and solar just the production process alone generates several hundred million tons of waste (not including greenhouse gases).
It has the lowest casualty rate of all of the other methods, even one of the lowest in the industrial sector in general.
Finally, my personal opinion is that it would be a good stop gap until fusion is actually obtainable, thorium (molten salt reactors) would be a great stop gap considering the excellent power output to waste generated ratio (thorium is a lot safer when it comes to waste management).
If you don't like nuclear power, then this video isn't for you.
Great summation at the end! Quit catastrophizing about what might happen in a hundred or two hundred years from now, and concentrate on creating cheap abundant energy today that lifts the underdeveloped world's populations out of poverty so they can care about a better quality of life including a cleaner more pleasant environment. Now that's a kind of Utopia I can buy into!
They could calculate the containable load for a small reactor and design the reactors to be small enough to be 5x below that load. Making it safe. It is the efficiency part they aren't done with yet. Something about storage of the energy into a battery. It is like one step from doing big things with these smaller prototypes. Build many of them over the stretch of land that only takes up about 500sf of space, powering a world with engineering you cannot imagine. Bullet trains running everywhere, electric cars, that run on low cost. This could be a major energy revolution. I'm very into this. I'd build the containment shell for the reactors or go on a huge site of a nuclear reactor. I'd love to see how they do that work.
PS: The big ones take 3 years to build. It is a huge piling job before you have the blocks of a foundation. This is (1) year of piling for a big reactor at a minimum. The rest if it is a high tech facility with parts being shipped in, inspectors everywhere.
It is a feat to build a large reactor. We can do it safe, but the mini tech is making me excited the most. We can make that the most safe and the most powerful if we learn how to store and transfer the energy efficiently.
Great topic!
Honestly, I think this is our best option for cheap, reliable, and using small systems inherently redundant power to replace fossil fuel options.
Renewables purely in parallel.
Unless we get fusion licked, small nuclear is really our best bet...