🎹Casio AP-470 Digital Piano Review & Demo - Celviano Series, AiR Sound Source, Concert Play🎹
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#Casio #AP470 #Celviano
Welcome to another digital piano review at the Merriam Pianos RUclips channel. In today’s video, we’ll be looking at the Casio Celviano AP470.
This instrument has been out for a while, but it’s the first chance we’ve had to take a look at it. We’ll cover all of the usual stuff, and see how it stacks up against the Casio PX870 as well.
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Piano Overview:
Anyone familiar with our channel will notice we’ve been doing more Casio reviews lately. The biggest reason why? More and more customers have been calling us asking about these instruments over the past year or so, and it’s a real testament to how far the quality of these instruments has come. Dollar for dollar, lots of Casio models make the case for being among the top value instruments on the market.
The AP470 comes in around $1,900 CAD, occupying the upper mid-range of the market. The AP740 uses the same action and sound engine as the PX870, so one might be wondering why this instrument is $500 more. Read on to find out why.
Piano Sound:
While both the PX870 and AP470 use the same Multi-dimensional Morphing AiR Sound Source engine, the AP470 ups the ante with 4 speakers instead of 2, and 40 watts of speaker power. The overall detail of the tone is really nice, but where you might be compromising in going with the AP470 as opposed to a slightly more expensive instrument such as the Kawai CN29 or Roland RP501 has to do with some of the finer subtleties, such as the treble decay time. That being said, for the price, the speaker and tone quality are very solid.
There’s 256 notes of polyphony here, which is more than enough for virtually all applications. There’s 22 total on-board sounds, which you can control via the user interface, or through the Chorda app on your smart device. The selection of tones is pretty standard - various acoustic pianos, electric pianos, harpsichord, vibraphone etc. The vintage electric piano and acoustic piano sounds especially stand out.
Piano Action:
The AP470 uses the same action as the PX870, the tri-sensor scaled hammer-action keyboard. The triple sensor is a nice addition, though it does not feature escapement (Roland is the only manufacturer who offers escapement at this price point.)
There’s a texture on the white and black keys that is pretty exaggerated. Some folks will love this, others will not, so it’s definitely worth paying attention to that when you try this piano out to see if you like the texture.
It’s worth mentioning that the action here is not the same as the one you’ll find in the PX-S1000 and 3000, which only use a double sensor.
Piano Features:
Another upgrade with the AP470 over the PX870 is the extra size, and overall more robust look of the cabinet. The AP470 definitely looks more like a real piano, which might be a significant consideration for some folks.
There’s also the ability to record both audio and MIDI to USB, as well as a number of pre-loaded on-board music. There’s all kinds of recordings of famous classical pieces on here that are super fun to play along with, especially with the Chordana app.
The AP470 comes standard with a triple pedal system, as well as music desk and dust cover.
Summary:
This instrument is going to deliver a lot of value to folks in the market place looking for a piano with a satisfying piano tone, solid action, and aesthetically pleasing cabinet, who want to stay under $2,000 before tax. There’s a lot to like here, and if this is the budget you’re working with, definitely give it a play.
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I love his reviews. They're very detailed.
This video was so helpful! Thank you!
Lovely stuff sir. Thank you.
Wow, I went into this review just to check out the piano but I have to say I'm blown away by the creative and beautiful playing of the reviewer. So much so that I felt the need to comment which I don't do often. Bravo, sir! It was a pleasure listening to you play.
Thank you so much for tuning in! I will be sure to pass along your kind words to Stu. :)
Great review, you read my mind on how this compares to the 870 and the cn 29. I am going to save up for the cn 29.
Love this channel
Recently bought it, it is very beautiful actually! I wouldn't say perfect but the sound is really good and very close to the acoustic piano. Actually you can modify the sound accordingly so as to suit your playing. The keys are really fine and also the pedal action. I would say that the bass could be a bit more deep but comparable even to some real acoustic pianos ,it is fine and on some cases ,even better.
I think I like it ,especially for the money given ,it is a very good instrument in general. I really like the bright piano and the French Cathedral reverb. It seems that Casio has been significantly imrpoved on many parts. It may improve more in the future but for the time being, it is a very nice effort.Compared to Yamaha ,I think I like it much more. Especially the feeling in the keys is much better
I think this digital piano is enjoyable to be used by beginners or experiences piano students.
@@SurfyStories yes!
Very fair review. I'm using the p45 since a year. As an intermediate level student, I was contemplating a clavinova 735. But after watching this review, I realised that in case of clavinova, I would be paying extra(rather too much) for features which hardly matter to me. I think that if your focus is more on getting the notes & chords right and if you haven't reached the level of having the need to modulate the tone, reverb etc then this piano definitely makes sense. And once u reach that level, you're better off buying an acoustic rather than spending on digital pianos which boast of emulating an acoustic. Thanks Stu for the review.
Excellent point. I agree wholeheartedly. Why pay an exorbitant amount for something that is not an acoustic? Just save that money for an acoustic piano.
@@marlajackson1905 however, I ended up getting a clavinova 735 because I didn't have space to fit in an acoustic.
Very great review , thanks very much 👍🏻
Thank you for tuning in! We're glad you enjoyed it! :)
Got ours few weeks ago for our son. Loving it!
Does it have volume control cause i live in a condo
it has volume control
Thanks for your review. I hope the key action of the AP-470 is close enough to an acoustic grand piano because I'm taking up piano playing again after 30 years; and I'm planning to do that with this digital piano.
@Merriam Music Hello! Is there any option to add percussion on the Casio AP470 via an app (chordana or others). Thank your for your very insightful reviews
Great! Now the ap 270.
Does anyone know when the new AP470 and the PX870 will be released? I think I’ve narrowed my choices down to one of those, but I don’t want to buy one if the new models will be out in a few months.
Merriam Music Hello! Is there any option to add percussion on the Casio AP470 via an app (chordana or others). Thank your for your very insightful reviews.
I've just ordered this piano .. Can't wait for it to get delievred this week 😊
Same here! I'm so excited! Except I have to wait a bit longer due to Covid ...
Good luck. I just bought one and very very disappointed
@@grahmhw Why?
@@grahmhw Why are you disappointed?? I love it! It sounds amazing and it feels really good. I have piano classes every week and my teacher has an upright Yamaha piano. I swear the Casio sounds and feels better!!
@@Andy-tq3ks the piano sounds tinny and very difficult to use the settings. Its smaller than my old Roland which also was so much easier to set, the size more suitable to children.
It would be great to see a review on the casio gp 510 and its comparison wirh the casio gp 300...thanks a lot for the video 👍
You have the best piano reviews ever because you spend lots of time playing the piano.
THANK YOU! Is there any significant tone engine (better chip on ap 470 or is it the same on both) difference between px 870 and ap 470 ?
Hi, first of all thank youfor your imperessive review. Which would you recommend between kawaii cn29, yamaha 164, roland hp501, and casio ap 470 that can handle intermediate piano student? Greetings from Turkey.
I have to vouch for your review. I played my first CELVIANO at an electronics shop in Tokyo. I was bored, and figured I'd sit down and play while my wife shopped expecting a "joke" playing a Casio "toy" piano (AP45) and I was blown away... I actually purchased it because my main instrument was Hammond Organ then, and I wanted a piano that I could doodle on in the apartment at 2:00 AM. I thought it felt great and sounded pretty good. That was almost 15 years ago. They improved it (although I wasn't happy that they got rid of the ride cymbal on the bass ride) and I upgraded to the next model. My last Celviano was the AP460 (yes, 460) -- unfortunately it was WRECKED by a scam moving company when I moved from NYC to Jersey (it survived the move from Tokyo!) My only criticism is that servicing can be difficult to get. I've finally decided to make the leap and am waiting for delivery of my GP-510. I'll add that a few years ago I thought I'd upgrade and went to a store where I played it next to the competitors and in my opinion, CASIO had just about all the competitors beat in the below $2000 range!
Thanks so much for tuning in and congrats on experiencing the magic of Casio's new console digital pianos! The AP470 is a fantastic and solid instrument with a great tone and touch. However, the GP510 is a meaningful step up as you've experienced. I think some people have the perception of Casio from the electronics and toy instruments they released in past eras, but the new Casio digital piano line is a force to be reckoned with and is certainly worth consideration at any price point or quality tier. :)
Great review , great sound and reverb but i dont like the bounce on the keys , and the mute sound on the keys action, its like more solid attack than the others, i preffer smoother hammer action
Hello, I have a question. Can you please help? I cannot make a decision of buying a digital piano as a gift. between Yamaha YDP164 or Yamaha clp625 and Casio AP470. The player's skill is level 7 Yamaha certified. Any suggestions? Thanks.
how's the action and sound engine of this ap-470 compared to kawai es920?
Hi i łóve your pro reviews. How this piano stands against AP-660?
What about the gp310? What’s your view on that piano?
Casio ap 470 or Korg LP 380? Which one is better especially on keyboard hammer action??
So how is this really different from say the older casio px 860?
Stu sir, is there a way to increase the bass quality in this piano
I noticed you havent review casio ap 700 nor 710, gp series also. I would very much appreciate if you do that, i am vitaly interested what you have to say about some of these because i am on the verge to buy ap 710. i love your chanel it is buy far the best out there. Keep up with superb work.
Really enjoyed the video thanks for posting, just starting to look for my first ever Digi Piano to start learning I'd love to work my way up to playing some Debussy, How do you think the AP270 PX-770 Compare to the Roland FP10/30 an the Kawai ES110 :) They all seem to be within £100 or so of each other or 200 or so allowing for the pedals an a stand for the Kawai an the FP. huge thanks in advance.
Hi Stu. Hope you, family and friends are well and safe.
First I want to congratulate you for all the great videos/reviews you make. I could not thank you enough.
I'm looking for a new digital piano, after 3 years of practising on my Yamaha P-115, and have watched many videos about Kawai, Yamaha, Roland, Casio and tried the majority of them.
I have a request and would very much like to hear you option about the Casio GP 510. I did search on your channel but I believe you have not yet reviewed it. Is it by any chance in your queue of pianos to review? I really would like to hear your option about it.
I really appreciate all the support you give and please please keep providing this great videos/reviews.
All the best
Giovanni Santos
Great review!! Please do one for Kurzweil KAG100 Baby Grand. Thanks in advance!
Thanks so much! We will do our best, but, given that we are not Kurzweil dealers, it may be difficult to do a review on that model.
Can you review the Casio AP-710? Thank you!
How would this piano compare to the KDP 120?
Great review as always ! This unit what I just read on pianoworld (I think Stu briefly said same action then went on to something else.) Anyway "It has the same key action as the cheapest PX (Privia) and AP (Celviano) models. (PX-S, CDP and CDP-S models are different.)" Kinda scary and then I dived into some of the reviews by owners and the problems they have had with the action again, across all Celviano models. But, if you don't need to play it, sounds great ;). Love the top opening wish other dp producing companies such as Kawai, etc. would get a clue on that those muffled experiences vs a slightly or full opened top that almost all upright acoustics have. That is one "key" to the great sound on these units I would suspect.
Thanks for tuning! We're glad that you enjoyed the review! The value proposition of the Casio AP470 definitely seems to be centred around its sound, which is really quite impressive. In terms of your notes about the reliability of the action, this is not something we have experienced with Casio. In fact, Casio has one of our lowest repair and warranty claim rates across all of our piano lines (both digital and acoustic).
@@MerriamPianos That is great to hear ! Thanks again for your reviews !
Can anyone in comparing this against the roland rp 102 / rp 302?
Can you please review AP-270BK?
Casio AP-470 vs Kawai KDP75. Same price. Would you choose Casio or Kawai? Thanks if anyone can help.
I write here a request for recommendation because it is a new video even if does not concern this video. How is the stage piano "Alesis recital pro 88-key" vs "Yamaha p-45" and even "Yamaha p-125" and "kawai es110"? Could you make a review about it or give some feedback. I use to practice on acoustic piano. I am not a beginner but not a expert player either. I am looking for a stage piano I could practice home and with the possibility later to play with a band some jazz, blues, rock. I wish for weighted keys so I could continue improving my technique that would be transferable while playing on acoustic piano. But I have a limited budget so I am trying to find the most affordable solution. Thank you for your feedback and your actions. All the best - Luis
Should really test how long the sustain pedal lasts
Hello, can this piano used as the 870 with external software as Garage band though MIDI?
Yeah, I did it on iPad and MacBook Air. You’ll need the expensive “lightning to Usb camera cable” that comes with a female usb at the end.
I really like how it looks and the design but does it have the same features as px-870 ?,Which one is better px-870 or this one ?
AP 470 is slightly more expensive but equivalent or better in every aspect when compared to PX870. AP470 is slightly less sleak but the build quality is better.
Any chance of a review on the AP-710? I'm really between the FP30X, AP-470 and AP-710, in my country they are pretty close in price, any thoughts?
FP30x for sureeee. Much better sound quality.
@@FelipeVitta
Yamaha p-125 better sound quality then fp-30
I am looking for a digital Piano that can be used as a MIDI and at the same time authentic Piano. I dont how to recognize if the Piano has this feature, with the AP470 its written that only MIDI via Bluetooth for example
Hi! Brent here! Any piano with MIDI capability (which is virtually all digital pianos) can be used as a MIDI controller. Most will have a USB connection that outputs MIDI data. However, some models will feature Bluetooth MIDI as well. The AP470 does offer MIDI via the USB connection too.
Thank you Stu this review, it was special for me because I bought this instrument after watching your very detailed and professional review. I used nearly all the big brands in the past nearly 30 years, Yamaha, Roland, Kawai, and Korg too, but for me, the touch, the action, and the tone are very very close to my acoustic upright piano. So, I chose this model and I am more than happy with it. I would have a question. This model does not have audio line out, just the headphone jacks. Using the 2 headphone jacks I connected the instrument to my audio interface, but there is a very loud background noise. What is the best way to connect this instrument to an audio interface to make some recordings using DAW? I really appreciate your answer in advance.
Regards, Tom
Hi Tom! Brent from Merriam Music here! Congrats on your AP470! In addition to providing a wonderful tone and touch that is quite authentic, I am personally a huge fan of the aesthetic of these pianos. The folding lid is a nice touch that helps further bridge the gap to an acoustic piano look.
Thanks for your question! It is difficult to troubleshoot remotely of course, but I would try using different cables and try each of the headphone outputs individually in order to eliminate or isolate the issue. Sometimes, headphone outputs can be a bit noisy when using them as line outputs, as they are not entirely intended to be used as dedicate line outs. With that said, depending on context of use, you may be able to eliminate the noise using plugins within a DAW or a noise suppressor pedal/unit if using it with an amp/PA. Thanks and hope this helps!
@@MerriamPianos Thank you, I will try to find out the source of the noise step by step.
Can anyone please tell me whether to buy this or the Yamaha arius ydp 164
If you want to go by strangers' opinions, then they'll tell you what they like. That doesn't mean it'll be what you like if you tried them out and judged them for yourself.
I use a Casio to drive Pianoteq Pro voices. I've always liked the Casio instruments I have owned. The only concern I have with the PX-150 is that the action is noisy. It plays well but thumps a lot when the key returns to its top (at rest) position.
"Cateen" plays and owns CASIO Privia PX-S1000, and a Steinway Model B.
ruclips.net/video/5QQeXZe_fPs/видео.html
WHAT IS your speaker setup?
My Roland LX-7’s action also has some ‘thump’. Not sure how it compares with yours but I believe it should be normal.
@@JitinMisra, a medium sized Logitec computer speaker system. Too large a tweeter is not good. You need the upper partials in the bass to have a realistic piano sound. Pianoteq Pro is really good. With more velocity, the upper partials increase in the bass. My tweeter cabinet is about 10" square. I believe the speaker inside is only around 4 or 5 inches. I tried a larger tweeter, and it's not good. I can adjust the amount of bass partials with a knob on the tweeter. It's absolutely critical to a realistic sound.
@@KeepingOnTheWatch Yeah, I don't know. I'm not a believer that a digital piano needs an action that clones a traditional action, but I think a digital action should not be noisier than the digital voice itself. I know the Casio action could be improved. I sent them a communication on how it could be done, but never heard a word back from them. Casio's response to end users concerns is extremely poor.
Hi!
Between the Casio px 870, Casio AP-470, Roland RP-102, Kawai KDP110 and the Korg Air C1, which one do you recommend me to buy?
What I really care is the authenticity of the sound and the feel of the keys.
Thx!, love your vids
Out of those i would say the Korg G1 Air.
What did you finally buy?
I found a used Casio AP-420 in good condition. Owner selling it for $950 CND. From my research I believe that model was released about 10 years ago. I’m comparing it to Kawai new KDP-75.
Is the used Casio a good bargain at $950??
For this price you can get AP-470
شكرا
You're very welcome! :)
Very light piano voice...
Any option available to make the sound more heavier and deeper?
Light? The first piano voice is probably the darkest I have heard. I never heard a true grand sounding like that. Good thing it has brighter ones as well.
No man
I mean
I'm not talking about the bass keys
I'm talking about the middle range keys sound...
The sound which comes out through MiDi is not as heavy as Yamaha's and other's middle keys
I'm considering either CasioAP-470 VS Roland HP-704 which is only $350 higher, I'm all into the Action Authenticity, furniture Looks and Durability of the Action and the Sensors any owner of these two can help!?
Hi! Brent here! For me, the HP704 has a more authentic touch via the PHA50 action. With that said, the AP470 is a great piano with an excellent piano tone. The action plays a bit lighter than the HP704, which, for some customers, is the preference. Thanks and hope this helps! :)
@@MerriamPianos thanks Brent but Digitals aside the Acoustic Kawai K-15 or Samick JS-121 Which would you recommend? And whichever you recommend compared to the HP-704 which one will stay longer with me during my Learning journey before I need to upgrade?
Kawai kdp 70 or Casio ap-470 ? I look for the quality of natural piano sound. Please give your opinion.
If natural piano sound is your top priority, get the one that feels better to play (key weight, texture etc) and use Garritan CFX VST. You just need a laptop and a printer cable. No digital piano in this price range will offer even 50% of the Garritan CFX quality. Look it up on RUclips: ruclips.net/video/C005i2-ZxZA/видео.html
@@horiachifor6726 That's if you like the CFX sound. There are other virtual pianos to consider as well.
Thanks for your great reviews Stu. Both the AP470 and the Kawai CN29 are on our shortlist for beginner adult players and starting a young child on. Obviously there is a significant difference in price between the two, and even to my ears the Kawai sounds better, but I was wondering if all the extra benefits of the CN29 are worth the extra $ compared to the Casio for what we will use it for? Many thanks from Italy
Hey Christian, I'm on the same boat. Have you made up your mind? I'm still unable to decide. Italian too btw.
@@KaXKP Hey, we couldn't test the Casio or the Kawaii, but in the end we we took a gamble and got the Casio. It's has great action, all the piano and keyobard sounds included are surprisingly good, its loud even for a large living room (we rarely take the volume past halfway), and it looks good sat in the corner of your room. I have no doubt the Kawaii would sound a bit better, but for the 800euro we paid for the Casio online we're really happy with it.
@@wickedpig may I ask, which website did you order from?
Can i change the frequency on the ap 270 or 470?
Yes! Both pianos have master tuning and transposition features. :)
What do you suggest? Casio 470 or Kawai KDP 120?
That really comes down to a matter of personal preference. They both have a great touch, tone, and speaker system. The Kawai has a warmer tone versus the Casio AP470's brighter tone. It really comes down to the musical preference between the two. :)
Hi! Which piano is better? yamaha ydp 165 or casio 470?
Hi! Brent here! It really comes down to a matter of personal preference as they both have a slightly different feel and sound. For me, the YDP165's touch feels a bit more authentic, but I prefer the sound and overall look of the AP470.
@@MerriamPianos Thank you so much! I was in store and I think I am going to get yamaha ydp 165 :)
I wish he would play with some voicing so that I can hear how balance is achieved on it.
We mainly focus on the primary piano sounds, but, with that said, we appreciate the feedback and will certainly try to cover more of the adjustment options in the future. :)
Stu sir, is this piano is worthfull to play classical music for an advance level student?
I have old casio keyboard and i directly jump into this ap series please guide me!!...❤
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for writing in! The AP470 is an excellent piano. It has a wonderful piano tone and speaker system. The action is also quite satisfying as well. However, some more advanced classical players may find it to be a little on the lighter side and may prefer a heavier touch (such as the GP310 or GP510 model for instance).
@@MerriamPianos Very very thank you for your words now i am clear!!😊
Into this model Casio installed maximium capacity for minimum price....God and good piano!
It is an impressive offering from Casio to say the least! I am a big fan of the aesthetic too. The cabinet looks great! :)
I couldn’t find a review of CLP 725 in the channel
We have not tackled a review/comparison with that model yet, but I will pass on the suggestion to our production team for you. :)
Thanks a lot🙂
How is it compared to KORG G1b Air in Action, Sound and build Quality?
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! It comes down to a matter of preference and taste, but, for me, the Casio AP470 has a nicer and more authentic piano sound. I would say that they're both very well-built and reliable instruments though. I also lean in favour of the AP470 a bit because its a really attractive cabinet design.
@@MerriamPianos Thank you Brent though I wish there was a Review of Korg G1b Air by stu , I love the Korg's Brown wood grpain Finish and retro looking control panel but I'm a current Casio CTX-800 user and the Keys are very noisy and the speakers Hiss especially on volume above 50% I'm afraid the AP-470 would be the same and the Korg is made in Japan unlike the competition which gives me the confusion that's why a detailed comparison review by stu would have been great 😅❤
What do you think..it's better this ap470 or yamaha clp 735?
Clavinova any day, if you can afford it. More realistic action and sound
*AP 470 has better sound against Yamaha's clp*
@@AS01SDNno bro
This or the Roland RP102
I purchased a Casio ap470 in December 2022. It stopped working in September 2023. I regret buying it. In less than a year I am stuck with a piece of junik.
I am sorry to hear that you have experienced issues with the AP470. That is surprising as it is usually a very reliable model. If you purchased in December 2022, it should still be covered under warranty. I would recommend connecting with your dealer.
Is the tuning a bit off on this model??
I don't believe there are any issues with tuning in regard to the samples or tone engine.
Is this piano considered to be a hybrid?
Hi there! No, while the AP470 is a very solid digital piano, it is not a hybrid piano. A hybrid piano utilizes at least one component or element from an acoustic piano, such as a soundboard system or an actual acoustic upright/grand piano action. Thanks and all the best! :)
May Yahweh bless you brother we love you and thank you for the wonderful video
Thank you for your support! We appreciate it. :)
Can't make up my mind...Roland RP701 or AP470
I’m in the same spot. Which one did you buy?
Can this be connected to a Mac as a midi?
Yup! It certainly can. Most digital pianos have MIDI capability via the USB connection.
Thanks, found the USB connection for the midi at the bottom. I couldn’t see it for the life of me… lol.
I cannot actually confirm to myself the actual sound of a real grand piano. I still don't hear an actual grand. So, I just believe them that it is the sound of a grand piano. 😅
poor ignorant fool
@@tatianagalindo9855 AND SO YOU ARE. 🙂
Casio AP-470 or Yamaha YDP-144?
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! The choice will ultimately come down the tonal and touch preferences of the player. They are both solid all-around pianos. With that said, I personally prefer the AP470. I think it is a bit of a dark horse in its price category, but should be considered by piano shoppers as it offers an excellent balance of touch, tone and gorgeous aesthetics. :)
Will definitely consider this. Thank you so much!
A-470 or Yamaha YDP-165?
It really comes down to a matter of personal preference of course. I would personally give a slight edge sonically and aesthetically to the AP470, but I would give an edge to the YDP165 in terms of its touch. However, it should be said that the AP470 is an excellent bet for players that prefer a lighter action.
@@MerriamPianos Thank you. I am complete begginer, this would be my first piano. As it is not cheap for me, I am not planning to play classical and very complicated music, and not going to change it for quite long, what would be yur shot? 🙂
How can clean
A simple feather duster works quite well to clean general dust on the cabinet and the keys. :)
Yamaha clp725 vs Kawai CN201 :3
Thanks for the suggestion! We will do our best to tackle that comparison for you. :)
I nearly pulled the trigger on one of these from Sweetwater..but the other day i tested one in person and i am SO glad i didn't buy one.
The key action was light and felt cheap, the default piano sounds uninspiring, and no bluetooth..just a combination of factors just made the experience of playing it a bit of a drag. I wouldn't be suprised if Walmart started selling these Casio AP470s cause it felt and sounded like a Walmart piano would. If your happy with this purchase hey....your allowed to like what you like. But this is a piano that really should be avoided if your someone who has previously played on a range of quality pianos yet still wants an immersive digital piano experience.
If money is limited for only $200-300 more you could get the Korg G1 Air which has a more premium watt speaker system , an arguably better key action, and bluetooth. Plus it looks sleek as hell.
I’m thinking to buy a digital piano which one you think is better PX-870 or AP-470 ?
@@gaigielala7933 The AP 470 is the "superior option", but at a superior cost. Both models have essentially the same look and key feel but the AP 470 differentiates itself by offering a lid opening, which tries to mimic a lid on a upright acoustic piano. It does give the 470 more projection or volume but that is about it.
*Clearly, you are a sad KORG worker. I am a classical pianist and the AP 470 is more than an excellent choice, both for hammer action and sound.*
@@AS01SDN I actually own a Roland HP704 not the Korg, thus i will disregard your disdainful statement that i am a disgruntled Korg worker. I mentioned the Korg because it is within the equvialent price range of the Casio 470 but yet is arguably a vastly superior option to the Casio 470. The fact that you play classical ( like 900 million other pianists) has no validity when discussing the actual quality of this Casio instrument. If you were a great classical pianist as you claim i would assume your tastes to be more refined, more discerning and..less repugnant.
@@jackdempsey3677 Where do you think the action is better - Korg D1 or this? Action is all I care about, gonna use it as a midi-controller most of the time.
The Casio sounds very muffled. It’s hard to explain. Otherwise, I think it’s a good value. I have an older Casio and the keys are very gratifying to play.
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What do you mean? Do you think it is not a good value?
I've had this Piano, just under 2 years, all I can say is that its, absolutely amazing, the sound is dynamic and true, compared to Roland and Yamaha, I would say (In my opinion) trumps those more expensive variants. The back part that flips up, and bellows out an almost orchestral feeling. If you are building this model, I produced a video on how to do it - ruclips.net/video/nE8clzyTGOQ/видео.html
I got mine yesterday and the keys feel very clunky and seem noisy, is this just something that’s on all digital pianos at this price point? Or is this an issue with the ap 470
Thanks for the reply, full disclosure I’m playing 2 months and I’ve never played on an acoustic before
There is subjectively nothing amazing about this piano Darren but your entitled to your opinion. For all intents and purposes it is essentially the Privia 870X $1,000 keyboard and action but with fancier housing and a lid for $500 more. I gave Casio a strong look but they just didn't bring it.
I'm not a 'Pro' piano player but I've been playing music for 40 years and I bought this about 3 years ago. I am somewhat disappointed in it. The sound after playing for a few months is noticeably digital and all the 'gimmicks' such as key noise, pedal noise, lid simulator etc are non existent. The half sustain pedal is VERY sensitive, i.e. it's not so much a half pedal as slightly touch it for half and any more and its simply full pedal!!! Near impossible!!!
I do love the physical feel of it in the weight and natural texture of the keys and the whole aesthetic of it; it looks and feels like a piano!
However WHY do none of these types of DIGITAL pianos not have more sounds. I have a Korg X3 keyboard workstation from the 90's with THOUSANDS of sounds on it!!!! It simply a rip off. Also where are the midi in and out!!!! I want to control my Korg from it!
However, for the price I paid then, £750, I am happy enough!
this is a value product and is ment to be for beginners. pianos which have a lot of sounds are called arranger digitalpianos.
I live in germany and i want to start to lern Piano, i want to buy casio ap470 or Kawai cn39,i just want to pay max 1500€for that,wich one do you think would be better for me?
Greetings from the south of Hessen.
We have had the AP 470 for about 3 weeks now. Background: little piano experience; Reason for the electric piano: headphones / volume controls, price, flexibility.
Satisfied? Yes
The quality and appearance are great. Sound too, according to my amateur judgment. Action and feel are great as well. Personally, I didn't think it would come that close to a piano.
Even so, I would recommend that you see both models live. As you have probably noticed by now, sound perception is very subjective. For example, I think the AP 470's Piano 1 (especially with my cheap headphones) is a bit too dull.
Changing the settings is actually a bit more difficult, in return the optics are very "neat" (few buttons, etc.). With the help of the app, however, you can easily and intuitively adjust more ambitious settings.
@@Patrick-vq9sx thank you very much for your fast reply,it´s very helpful😊i am going to buy that this week,what do you think about Casio ap710? i heard that it has a very good sound that we can compare that with Casio gp310 and thats also in germany in rage for 1500€,do you think that ap710 would be bether choice for me in compare with ap470 and Kawai cn39?
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What I noticed during the market research is that with digital pianos you actually get more if you pay more. in this case, among other things, better samples and more speakers. Action, etc. is however identical to the AP470. So it is again the question of what is important to you and of course your budget.
If the budget fits, I would definitely look at, play on and listen to all three pianos, AP470, AP710 and Kawai CN39.
Since I bought the AP470 from a small, local dealer for a great price, the 1500 € for the AP710 would have been almost double that.
As I said, I am quite happy with the AP470.
I look forward to your feedback regarding your decisionnt
this piano sounds terrible LOL
How so?
@@Goooogle while no digital piano sounds exactly like real, a good digital piano will not sound like a toy, this sounds like a toy.
@@JitinMisra Oh, good to know
What digital piano would you personally recommend? I was thinking of getting the Roland RP-102
@@JitinMisra no it does not... i have one, and if you use the right config... it's a good piamo
@@Goooogle No te preocupes, tengo este piano y de verdad es calidad precio, no hay necesidad de invertir más de 1000 dolares para sonar bien, sus sonido e si creíble y una acústica asombrosa, la acción es como la de un piano de cola. en mi universidad usan los ap 270 para dar lecciones.