Obsidian flames charizard and zapdos are winners. Greninja is top 5 for the gen. Gardevoir the paf is going to be the money card. Pokémon is doing something with gardevoir. I don’t know what but that card is going to be the sleeper like the rayquaza alt or the blaziken. Mew paf , iono, Altaria, groudon, tyrantar are all winners. I still Stan yveltal and misimagius. Those are going to be surprises. Gastly is probably good and Magikarp is the big unknown for me. It really depends on reprints and print quality. Tarsugiri, Cleffa, eevee, chansey, Grusha, parasol lady, tulip, all the starters are strong and could go either way. I hope this adds to the discussion.
I think all the 151 cards will be near the top in the end. I can’t see any of the trainers remaining that big, Marnie is the biggest from the last era at like 30 bucks. Especially that morty. I just don’t get it.
@@Itwasneveraphasecards I think the Iron Valiant will at the very least hold it's value. Not everybody is a big fan of the future variants, but this card is badass. Collectors who want a little future in the binder but don't want to chase them all will get this, it has them all in it. One card and the future collection is nearly full
My personal opinion, a full 151 set is the play. You could master it with promos but even a std set has huge potential with the amount of art work included
I agree with you on Charizard EX. Too cheap. Easy to pull sure, but when print goes out and you need to buy boxes to get it, it has no choice but to go up. Also my concern is will there even be a reprint of the first few sets of SV. I honestly dont think so. I feel like they were printed with demand, and the pull rates were too easy. Pokemon would have to adjust those rates on a reprint or think of the damage it could do to the market. I do think Paldea Evolved will get a small reprint, but not with boosters, etbs only. Dont sleep on the trainers or cards like raging bolt/iron crown etc. All great arts, but hard to pull. Damn near same as that Greninja, but the key is theyre all part of the dlc in the video game. For old heads they have no connection and dont care much, but to younger ppl they love them. That Carmine card in person is phenomenal. Bloodmoon is similar to sleepy t-tar, so long term TM has potential to be a top set in SV. I dont think we've seen even the top 3 sets yet. But if 151 is playing off your nostalgia, then you know the legendaries and other cards will play off someone elses in the future.
Very well said. I should definitely be more open minded moving forward. It’s hard to get rid of my Gen 1 bias but as an investor it would be best to do so. I’ll work on that. Thanks for stopping by and commenting!
First pack i bought cause i was thinking of trying to start my own collection and i got lucky to get the charizard. Now it holds a special place in my collection
Sv Base has AWESOME cards... they put a lot of love on making them... the komiya drowzee... the slowpoke... I mean, not only the SAR are chase cards... I am mastering that set because I see a lot of potential in the future... Also it introduced the 3 cards history with ralts - kirlia - garde ( maybe the most used evolution line in Emerald and third gen )
I think the 151 SIRs are gonna be radioactive hot even if there is a reprint sometime or another. I know they aren't SIRs but the O Forme Arceus/Dialga/Palkia/Giratina are super solid investments. I think they will age like fine wine and they are great pieces.
Could definitely see them popping off together at some point. Lots of people buying them up for master sets to never sell so lots coming off the market every day lowering the supply. We will have to see what a reprint will do.
Great question, that's not how it works any more. They don't do 1st edition print runs or anything like that so the cards from the second or third printing would look exactly the same. Possible that some boxes might be able to be identified as a first print run but the card value would typically drop as supply is increased.
Top Tier for me would be S: birds, Alakazam, Bubble Mew. I can see people looking back towards the end of SV and seeing the bubble mew as super unique and special card. We really dont have an all blue shiny art in this style. Its my personal pick for top sleeper card. I wouldnt invest hard in Roaring Moon/Gardoviour. Esp if you don't have much faith in like Iron Crown/Raging Bolts. I believe those are really strong A/B tier cards but isnt the biggest margins. There's a lot to see come second half. Some might get bumped off.
I bought a Zapdos SIR on eBay auction for $20 but it has some slight whitening on the back. Would never get a 10. How badly Does this kill the long term value of the card? Thanks!
It will affect it for sure but if you look at some of the sales for the big sword and shield cards the LP are still going for a good amount so I wouldn’t worry.
I see no reason why the SIRs won’t spike just like the alt arts, just as soon as SV starts selling out on Pokémon center!! And again that could very well be like 2-3 years but I’m betting they spike atleast a good amount when the sellouts happen.
I’m surprised the Erika’s invitation SIR is only $20. I know waifus only catch a premium in Japanese, but it’s a beautiful card. I don’t even care about trainer cards in general but I had to pick up 3 copies of it.
@@SmoothOperator419depends on what stock Pokemon wants to get rid of. Like mini tins, there's still a lot of stock. Maybe they'll bundle to finish the final stock. That's still unclear. Just check the stores towards the end of October. It's guaranteed
Pokémon is the highest grossing franchise of all time. There are just SOOO many people that collect. They can’t print enough cards for demand so the prices go up. Most of my investing is sealed booster boxes and not singles. They go up in value as the supply dwindles from people opening it.
@@GirthBrooks871 Darkness ablaze Zard is just a different color champions path Zard. At least obsidian is its own artwork and much better in my opinion
Pull rates determine most card prices. Greninja will only go up in value probably hitting the 600 mark in a few months from now because of how brutal it is to pull.
Pull rates aren’t the whole picture, but I understand where you are coming from. I think part of it is social media attention to the card right now and people like to chase the money. But you really could be right for sure! Thanks for watching and commenting I really appreciate it.
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Agree or disagree with any of my long term predictions?
Obsidian flames charizard and zapdos are winners. Greninja is top 5 for the gen. Gardevoir the paf is going to be the money card. Pokémon is doing something with gardevoir. I don’t know what but that card is going to be the sleeper like the rayquaza alt or the blaziken. Mew paf , iono, Altaria, groudon, tyrantar are all winners. I still Stan yveltal and misimagius. Those are going to be surprises. Gastly is probably good and Magikarp is the big unknown for me. It really depends on reprints and print quality. Tarsugiri, Cleffa, eevee, chansey, Grusha, parasol lady, tulip, all the starters are strong and could go either way. I hope this adds to the discussion.
I think all the 151 cards will be near the top in the end. I can’t see any of the trainers remaining that big, Marnie is the biggest from the last era at like 30 bucks. Especially that morty. I just don’t get it.
The obsidian charizard seems like a stretch. Not a big set, easy pull rates. Maybe that’s just me 😅
@@Speedysloth247 Possibly, but only time will tell the answer for certain.
@@Itwasneveraphasecards I think the Iron Valiant will at the very least hold it's value. Not everybody is a big fan of the future variants, but this card is badass. Collectors who want a little future in the binder but don't want to chase them all will get this, it has them all in it. One card and the future collection is nearly full
I think S&V base is the most overlooked set. Fairly sized set with gorgeous arts
@@GirthBrooks871 Right?! Thanks for stopping by and commenting!
The problem is they are not as popular as the 151. The card shops here don’t have any stock at retail price. It’s crazy.
The iron crown in person is actually awesome pictures really don’t do any of specials justice
@@michaelnorman8581 I haven’t seen it in person yet!
@@Itwasneveraphasecards lol I meant crown I’m tripping
I completely agree the way the texture radiates out from the moon and the sparkles are never seen in the photos
This is so true. Didnt even know I wanted to card until i pulled it
Agreed.
Cards will appreciate most definitely. The SIR’s especially. Once packs/sets become harder to find, then value will rise.
I love this selection. I agree with you. These are long time holds and I can’t see you go wrong with these selections.
My personal opinion, a full 151 set is the play. You could master it with promos but even a std set has huge potential with the amount of art work included
Thanks for making a video looking forward more long term. Oddly refreshing.
@@FoxFoxM3 I try not to make too many price predictions but this will be fun to look back on
You read my mind. Keep these kind of vids coming. We all know about sealed so these are fun.
I’ll try my best to keep doing these. Appreciate you stopping by as usual!
@@Itwasneveraphasecards you always do great work.
Good video bro 😎👊
Thank you
I agree that’s why I’ve picked up like 10 of those charizards and was lucky enough to pull the zapdos
Nice that’s really smart!
Bro I LOVE that Zapados dude 100% Agree I know many collectors who own several copies …
Glad to hear you like it as well! The card is straight fire.
Same with the Alakazam, Blastoise and Venusaur! All these 151’s are fire asf! Buy the dip
@@mikeydubbz Cards are WAYYYY too good!
I agree with you on Charizard EX. Too cheap. Easy to pull sure, but when print goes out and you need to buy boxes to get it, it has no choice but to go up. Also my concern is will there even be a reprint of the first few sets of SV. I honestly dont think so. I feel like they were printed with demand, and the pull rates were too easy. Pokemon would have to adjust those rates on a reprint or think of the damage it could do to the market. I do think Paldea Evolved will get a small reprint, but not with boosters, etbs only.
Dont sleep on the trainers or cards like raging bolt/iron crown etc. All great arts, but hard to pull. Damn near same as that Greninja, but the key is theyre all part of the dlc in the video game. For old heads they have no connection and dont care much, but to younger ppl they love them. That Carmine card in person is phenomenal. Bloodmoon is similar to sleepy t-tar, so long term TM has potential to be a top set in SV. I dont think we've seen even the top 3 sets yet.
But if 151 is playing off your nostalgia, then you know the legendaries and other cards will play off someone elses in the future.
Very well said. I should definitely be more open minded moving forward. It’s hard to get rid of my Gen 1 bias but as an investor it would be best to do so. I’ll work on that.
Thanks for stopping by and commenting!
Considering how expensive it is to pull cards everything is feels cheap. It’s painful to spend 100s of dollars chasing a 10 dollar card lol
Little card show coming up in Vegas was looking for a video like this
Glad I was able to help you out. Really appreciate you watching and commenting. Happy collecting and have a great show!
I agree with you and great vid keep up the work
I think the blastoise in 151 will do well
@@Harrymaguire-s4l Great looking card for sure! Appreciate you stopping by and commenting!
Love the151 Alakazam one of my favorite SIRs
Just pull that card today, beautiful card.
Honestly very big fan of the Charizard 223 and a loved piece for my collection.
Great unique art that looks great in real life.
@@HistoryofT Nice glad to hear you like it as well! Sometimes I think it’s just me and I’m weird 😆
First pack i bought cause i was thinking of trying to start my own collection and i got lucky to get the charizard. Now it holds a special place in my collection
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Appreciate your support! Thanks for watching and commenting it means a lot.
The psa pop report of the OF zard works heavily in its favour.
@@Chambss88 I should have touched on that thanks for bringing it up!
Also it's very hard to grade a 10
So are these opinions just for the English 151 or do they apply to Japanese 151 as well?
@@601RoLiz English only I’m not as in tuned with the Japanese single market
Scarlet and violet base set is a good set almost got the master set
Nice that’s awesome! Still working on mine got a ways to go but a good start for sure. I ripped a few boxes when it first came out.
Sv Base has AWESOME cards... they put a lot of love on making them... the komiya drowzee... the slowpoke... I mean, not only the SAR are chase cards... I am mastering that set because I see a lot of potential in the future...
Also it introduced the 3 cards history with ralts - kirlia - garde ( maybe the most used evolution line in Emerald and third gen )
I think the 151 SIRs are gonna be radioactive hot even if there is a reprint sometime or another.
I know they aren't SIRs but the O Forme Arceus/Dialga/Palkia/Giratina are super solid investments. I think they will age like fine wine and they are great pieces.
Could definitely see them popping off together at some point. Lots of people buying them up for master sets to never sell so lots coming off the market every day lowering the supply. We will have to see what a reprint will do.
If reprints has different date then won't that make first print 151 worth more?
Great question, that's not how it works any more. They don't do 1st edition print runs or anything like that so the cards from the second or third printing would look exactly the same. Possible that some boxes might be able to be identified as a first print run but the card value would typically drop as supply is increased.
Top Tier for me would be
S: birds, Alakazam, Bubble Mew. I can see people looking back towards the end of SV and seeing the bubble mew as super unique and special card. We really dont have an all blue shiny art in this style. Its my personal pick for top sleeper card.
I wouldnt invest hard in Roaring Moon/Gardoviour. Esp if you don't have much faith in like Iron Crown/Raging Bolts. I believe those are really strong A/B tier cards but isnt the biggest margins.
There's a lot to see come second half. Some might get bumped off.
Appreciate you commenting and totally understand what you are saying. Can’t wait to see how it all shakes out.
I think the top 3 long term will be Bubble Mew, Greninja, and Gardevoir.
I bought a Zapdos SIR on eBay auction for $20 but it has some slight whitening on the back. Would never get a 10. How badly Does this kill the long term value of the card? Thanks!
It will affect it for sure but if you look at some of the sales for the big sword and shield cards the LP are still going for a good amount so I wouldn’t worry.
@@Itwasneveraphasecards thanks! Subbed, great videos with interesting analysis keep it up!
Not spending 💰 on cards right now but stopped by to supprt the cause
@@mitchellalexander1581 You’re the man thanks for stopping by! Appreciate your continued support
Zapdos is my favorite in 151 also.
Hell yeah! ⚡️⚡️⚡️
The zapdos is great, and the psa 10 rate is very low.
There's a few psa 10 Japanese versions....English seem to to rare
I see no reason why the SIRs won’t spike just like the alt arts, just as soon as SV starts selling out on Pokémon center!! And again that could very well be like 2-3 years but I’m betting they spike atleast a good amount when the sellouts happen.
Yeah that would definitely make sense. I’ll be keeping a close eye on it.
I’m surprised the Erika’s invitation SIR is only $20. I know waifus only catch a premium in Japanese, but it’s a beautiful card. I don’t even care about trainer cards in general but I had to pick up 3 copies of it.
Oh yeah a nice looking card for sure. Plenty of people like it, might be a great sleeper pick to keep an eye on.
October we might get a huge 151 reprint in stores. Don't fomo dear collectors
Yes! Very very likely.
Does that mean you can get them on the poke center website? How will we know they will restock?
@@SmoothOperator419depends on what stock Pokemon wants to get rid of. Like mini tins, there's still a lot of stock. Maybe they'll bundle to finish the final stock. That's still unclear. Just check the stores towards the end of October. It's guaranteed
@@SmoothOperator419 ask your LCS, they'll receive emails from their distributor
Can someone explain how these cards hold value? They aren't attached to gameplay like Magic, I'm literally lost on Poke investing don't understand it
Pokémon is the highest grossing franchise of all time. There are just SOOO many people that collect. They can’t print enough cards for demand so the prices go up. Most of my investing is sealed booster boxes and not singles. They go up in value as the supply dwindles from people opening it.
Millennials when see 151😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Right?
Disagree on obsidian. I love the IR's but it such a small set and the SIR zard is okay but so is the Darkness ablaze Zard
@@GirthBrooks871 Darkness ablaze Zard is just a different color champions path Zard. At least obsidian is its own artwork and much better in my opinion
Obsidian flames chsrizard is a wayyyy cooler and more unique art.
Pull rates determine most card prices. Greninja will only go up in value probably hitting the 600 mark in a few months from now because of how brutal it is to pull.
Pull rates aren’t the whole picture, but I understand where you are coming from. I think part of it is social media attention to the card right now and people like to chase the money. But you really could be right for sure! Thanks for watching and commenting I really appreciate it.
Some think this greninja could be the next moonbreon 👀
@@josephvegas3052 😅….definitely not but it sure could be the next Giratina Alt
to be honest, any ones that have dipped in price are gonna shoot up over the next few years
historically, look at the shining and gold star Charizard. Gotta pick up that black Charizard sir
You’re most likely right. Can’t wait to see what happens!
so buy every card? ok got it
Eh not every one. But appreciate you watching and commenting.
Don’t sleep on iron valiant
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