@@MrNippertboy I think var just needs to be scrapped tbh. Referees get it wrong, they make mistakes just like players and managers. Some of the most iconic moments of the sport came from referering errors. Gods hand and such. But when the technology is there, but is not being used properly, it just becomes unacceptable and a disgrace to the sport.
Football results are paid for long ago indeed… imagine every footballer being a multi millionaire and you’re a ref at 250k per year. I’ll be open to any offshore offers coming my way if I was the ref
It has happened to often with Michael Oliver now. It looks on the face of it that any team that isn't City gets dodgy decisions from him. Needs to be a review of his conduct.
Why are people acting like Liveprool is an average team? In the first half, Arsenal were the better team. In the second Liveprool were, there wasn't much between them, I agree Arsenal could of gone for it more in the second half but if they had & Liverpool picked them off on the counter attack everyone would be saying Arsenal were "naive" sometimes when 2 very good team play each other it ends in a draw...
@@Realist1099 joke ting he has some of the best prem goals in recent years 🤣 solo against city, spurs & watford, banger against chelsea, runaways vs Man U & Arsenal 🤣
He's got more goals and assists per minute in his whole prem career than all of Shearer, Kane, Lampard, Henry, Rooney, Ronaldo, Giggs, and Gerrard. Probably more than anyone per minute since the prem began. I've not managed to find anyone with a better ratio. It's laughable that he isn't in the conversation for the best premier league player ever. The numbers suggest he is. He's done that from the wing too.
Its funny that Liverpool are a tean that "havent played anyone", with a brand new manager, and arsenal and rival fans are saying we should be going to the Emirates and winning, even though Saka and Timber were actually fit 😂
Liverpool are the most hated team in Europe because we are doing it the hard way and not selling out to billionaires and not buying all the best plays without thinking. YNWA 🔥🔥🔥
I know right. Plus coming from the guy who said he saw Liverpool winning it. I could have seen both teams winning it if there were fewer slip ups. Went both ways.
Honestly Arsenal were weakened and the played us off the park yesterday. We helped them, Trent's passing was woeful until the assist. But we were very lucky to get a draw, Arsenal deserved to win ngl
@@Anfield-bn3wg MG does like to talk crap over Liverpool, like the audacity to call out pool when his own team is 14th spot after 9 games in is hilarious. Can't troll us Mark , but trying makes us realise what a melt you really are.
I don’t have a dog in the fight but I thought they said var would have a higher bar this year for staying out of decisions that are not clear and obvious on the pitch. Then Oliver does that against Man Utd. Absolute disgrace.
Not sure why people keep perpetuating this lie, sounds more like wishful thinking by rivals, he comes with a lot of negative baggage after the media turned on him this summer and the board already said they're not interested in him, have been saying it for months. The last thing United need is more negative PR.
This VAR intervention/call is one of the worst ever. If clear and obvious is the standard, then they didn’t follow their own process. This is the definition of incompetence. Nothing will change without severe consequence. Somebody needs to be fired. And, I am not a United fan.
“I think so many people thought Liverpool would win that game” I’m pretty sure it was the opposite. Everyone was saying, Liverpool are gonna have a very tough test against Arsenal and will lose. Slot will get a rude awakening. It didn’t happen. Liverpool need propa
It was that way initially. Then with us having three reds and missing our star player in each position prior to the actual game, people expected a liverpool win. Luckily saka and timber got in
God they do talk nonsense. Mo Salah not having his best season??? 6 goals and 5 assists in 9 games. Imagine that nobody thought that Salah was gonna be a one season wonder. Talking gibberish
@@AbdelhadiIskizziif that's the case then why didn't arsenal win when we've our second choice keeper in goal ? We can all paint a picture with our own narratives. Doesn't make them true 😂😂😂
Southgate, Xavi, Frank or a cheeky Mourinho maybe?? Not gonna make a difference with that squad…they need to cut their losses on some players and just get rid
Good managers/coaches can do a good job with the players.just that the regime has to give that manager a chance to get rid of all garbage players like bruno and rashford McGuire evans mount heaton shaw
VAR is so simple to sort. The ref controls what they want to see. In an instance like the weekend, they could say either no pen for me, or unclear VAR at the next stop in play I want to review, they then make the decision. Buck stops then with the on field refs. Rugby have it right.
In the Liverpool Arsenal game, I thought the players were going to lie down and take a nap When VR Was checking for an offsides took forever you could see the officials in the booth. They look like they don’t know what they’re doing.
As a United fan, i am sick of people like Mark that say "we are United" Mark WE ARE NOT UNITED HAVE NOT BEEN FOR TEN PLUS YEARS. So as another fan shutup and accept the fact we are trash and Glazers still here.
I think the thing with united is looking at who is the top manager available… i think you need to pick a manager based on a style of play and player. The style has changed from jose, ole, van gaal and ten hag they all play differently and the players with different styles. Look at klopp to slot, its the same style and the same as pelligrini to pep… yes they had better teams but it was always a build in the same mould
Thinking Emry would leave 4th placed in prem and top of champions league where he has complete control and his backroom staff in place to go be told he's just a head coach at a toxic 14th placed team is just deluded
I'm pretty sure u was saying Enzo would be first to go for Chelsea Goldbridge my old son, I knew it would be Ten hag but to go out on that VAR decision is very harsh tbf
And look at the quality of the two sides. I've seen arsenal win enough fa cups i dont even care about them in the slightest. I'd rather try to challenge for the league than a dead trophy, dead team and dead seasons. Yes arsenal are bottlers etc., I'd still rather be us than utd and surely no one disagrees
I am a Liverpool supporter. That was no pen for West Ham. No attempt was made by De Ligt to trip the West Ham player, he wasn't even looking at him. I am praying for Southgate to get the job and ensure a few more years of mediocrity.
I think Rodri deserves the Ballon d'Or! He's been the standout nomination for 18 months. Vini Junior is amazing but you could put a few Real players in there that would still get the job done. City and Spain don't win what they've won without Rodri, Real would've still won without.
I think United should go for Xavi Hernandez. He really set Hansi up to succeed bringing Barca from the depths of despair ready for a coach like Hansi to lift off. He won the league his first season. His biggest weakness is European competition, but United aren’t even in the champions league so who cares if he’s bad there if we aren’t even competing to begin with
As a Liverpool fan that is no way a penalty and this why I hate VAR, and even though you can not say it Mark, I will the Premiership is corrupt as fook, all VAR has done , it has made it easier to control the outcome of games, and there is to many to mention, and in all honesty i can not believe more can not see it.
Just a few months back I heard Eric Ten Bob was the best Dutch manager, I guess he was not looking forward to the away game against Slot, who he slagged off?
I have a question for everybody, when it comes out that the referees were in the wrong and it will, will apology be good enough? Because it cost Manchester United three points and also a manager. You can’t get that back.
City has had a world class squad past 6 years. Makes it easier, plus lately they have mastered the buy low sell high game with players. Graelish is proabably the biggest mistep as far as money spent
Amorim will only leave Sporting by the end of the season, he is seeking something that Sporting doesn't do since 1981, which is winning two portuguese leagues in a row. So, that option is not possible for United
How would the game change if footballers where employed like us all. So no set 3 year contracts, you get em-loved and work week to week. If your rubbish, you can be made redundant
Honestly veŕy shocked by this we tried to build around Trn Hag this summer we got new coaches for him his signings seems like we we were waiting till end of the season
Mark saying over and over again WERE MANCHESTER YANITED as if they're a respectable club nowadays.. You would think managers would prefer coaching other sides opposed to whatever Ten Hag has left.
Fantastic point about Michael Oliver goldbridge, he doesn’t deserve a job in refereeing anymore, he’s a shambles
@@MrNippertboy I think var just needs to be scrapped tbh. Referees get it wrong, they make mistakes just like players and managers. Some of the most iconic moments of the sport came from referering errors. Gods hand and such. But when the technology is there, but is not being used properly, it just becomes unacceptable and a disgrace to the sport.
A corrupt referee in a corrupt organisations fits right in
Football results are paid for long ago indeed… imagine every footballer being a multi millionaire and you’re a ref at 250k per year. I’ll be open to any offshore offers coming my way if I was the ref
It has happened to often with Michael Oliver now. It looks on the face of it that any team that isn't City gets dodgy decisions from him. Needs to be a review of his conduct.
@@danieldenevohhhh shut up 🤡
Why are people acting like Liveprool is an average team? In the first half, Arsenal were the better team. In the second Liveprool were, there wasn't much between them, I agree Arsenal could of gone for it more in the second half but if they had & Liverpool picked them off on the counter attack everyone would be saying Arsenal were "naive" sometimes when 2 very good team play each other it ends in a draw...
Take VVd and Salah out and they re below average no?
@@danieldenevdefinitely not. Can’t you remember when they were out a few years ago and we was top of the league.
@@danieldenev below average? They'd still be top 4 easily.
You are wrong in the head
Wahahaha wahahaha wahahaha 🤡🤡🤡🤡😀🔔🔔🔔@@danieldenev
I’m sorry mo salah not having his best season? 8 goals and 7 assists in 13 appearances? Like wtf
Salah will always be underrated, I don’t know why
Only scores pens and tap ins
@@Realist1099 joke ting he has some of the best prem goals in recent years 🤣 solo against city, spurs & watford, banger against chelsea, runaways vs Man U & Arsenal 🤣
That's fine !! YNWA 😊
As a United fan, Salah is the best player in the EPL, so much unfairness towards him.
have i just heard the words ‘mo salah not having his best season’ whilst he’s got 15 g/a in 13 games😂😂😂😂jesus christ i’ve heard it all now
He's got more goals and assists per minute in his whole prem career than all of Shearer, Kane, Lampard, Henry, Rooney, Ronaldo, Giggs, and Gerrard. Probably more than anyone per minute since the prem began. I've not managed to find anyone with a better ratio. It's laughable that he isn't in the conversation for the best premier league player ever. The numbers suggest he is. He's done that from the wing too.
@ honestly mate all the people who just push it to the side will realise what they missed when he retires
@@davyprendergast82 couldn’t have said it better myself
Its funny that Liverpool are a tean that "havent played anyone", with a brand new manager, and arsenal and rival fans are saying we should be going to the Emirates and winning, even though Saka and Timber were actually fit 😂
Their just mentally struggling because they thought they had already won the league after drawing with City. Bunch of flacks
Liverpool are the most hated team in Europe because we are doing it the hard way and not selling out to billionaires and not buying all the best plays without thinking. YNWA 🔥🔥🔥
We still waiting to play a proper team !! YNWA 😊
@@BM18007 or probably because they got England banned from Europe for a decade🤣🤣
Arsenal didnt gift Liverpool anything, they scored 2 we scored 2, utd lost , shh.
Arsenal will never win the league again,shh
I know right. Plus coming from the guy who said he saw Liverpool winning it. I could have seen both teams winning it if there were fewer slip ups. Went both ways.
Honestly Arsenal were weakened and the played us off the park yesterday. We helped them, Trent's passing was woeful until the assist. But we were very lucky to get a draw, Arsenal deserved to win ngl
@@Anfield-bn3wg MG does like to talk crap over Liverpool, like the audacity to call out pool when his own team is 14th spot after 9 games in is hilarious. Can't troll us Mark , but trying makes us realise what a melt you really are.
@@imRehnzy yeah we were under par but it was a gd point. A game of two halves.
Get Gary Neville in for the comic effect and banter… ‘Gary’s at the wheel’.
So so glad someone is constantly calling out consistent mistakes from the supposed "best ref" Micheal Oliver.
I feel for Pellistri, now playing LW and doing very well. Selling him was just one of ETH´s many crimes.
@@TurkeyKielbasa Three times better than 80 million pounds Antony
You lots love to mourn mid players. Who else do you feel bad for? McTominay? Fred?
Not to mention alvaro Fernando carera at benfica
@@LaCavernaDeWilsonneither are good enough Antony just harder to sell and u know that stop being silly
Tuanzebe 😂@@Tee9156
“Gift Liverpool a Point”? 😭
Such a bullshit. They gifted us nothing.
@@dzenitadelic3254 Yeah we drew because Salah scored and that’s that.
As a westham fan it was not a pen.
As a football fan, it was
I don’t have a dog in the fight but I thought they said var would have a higher bar this year for staying out of decisions that are not clear and obvious on the pitch. Then Oliver does that against Man Utd. Absolute disgrace.
Southgate on his way
Exciting times ahead 😅
Won't happen 😂
Southgate in
Not sure why people keep perpetuating this lie, sounds more like wishful thinking by rivals, he comes with a lot of negative baggage after the media turned on him this summer and the board already said they're not interested in him, have been saying it for months. The last thing United need is more negative PR.
I think sacking ten hag won't make any difference. Whoever is the manager of these players will keep losing
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They need to shelve the whole thing and just keep the name
Took chelsea about 4 goes at it lately
@@bigdawg5659It’s true, couldn’t even win with mourinho
This VAR intervention/call is one of the worst ever. If clear and obvious is the standard, then they didn’t follow their own process. This is the definition of incompetence. Nothing will change without severe consequence. Somebody needs to be fired. And, I am not a United fan.
“I think so many people thought Liverpool would win that game” I’m pretty sure it was the opposite. Everyone was saying, Liverpool are gonna have a very tough test against Arsenal and will lose. Slot will get a rude awakening. It didn’t happen. Liverpool need propa
It was that way initially. Then with us having three reds and missing our star player in each position prior to the actual game, people expected a liverpool win. Luckily saka and timber got in
God they do talk nonsense. Mo Salah not having his best season??? 6 goals and 5 assists in 9 games. Imagine that nobody thought that Salah was gonna be a one season wonder. Talking gibberish
If we wanna be really technical he doesnt look quite as good as 17-18😂but yea hes doing quite well so far
Slah did nothing all game , until Timber went out injured , then he played gains a youngster 17 years old
@@AbdelhadiIskizziif that's the case then why didn't arsenal win when we've our second choice keeper in goal ? We can all paint a picture with our own narratives. Doesn't make them true 😂😂😂
@@AbdelhadiIskizziit’s almost as if half a game isn’t an entire season.
Thomas Frank going from Brentford to Manchester United would be a step down !!!
I hope you get Southgate. It will be great banter for a few months.
That’s a empty keg you don’t have the minerals to lift a full one 😂
Southgate, Xavi, Frank or a cheeky Mourinho maybe??
Not gonna make a difference with that squad…they need to cut their losses on some players and just get rid
Good managers/coaches can do a good job with the players.just that the regime has to give that manager a chance to get rid of all garbage players like bruno and rashford McGuire evans mount heaton shaw
Goldbridge is one of the most sensible football bloggers...always a joy to watch
Carrick Manager with Ole Assistant
😂
Are you mad blud 😂😂😂
As usual with pushing british people.carick not as good as you think for a big job as United
Smoking something
Gareth at the wheel
Sarina Wiegman is the natural choice for United as she always gets the girls playing well
we need Harry Potter, not Graham Potter 😭
banging one out while listening in the background cheers Mark
VAR is so simple to sort. The ref controls what they want to see. In an instance like the weekend, they could say either no pen for me, or unclear VAR at the next stop in play I want to review, they then make the decision. Buck stops then with the on field refs. Rugby have it right.
Goldbridge triggered with the thought of Southgate 😂😂
Im expecting luke shaw fit breaking news in few days now that the new guy is in charge
Man Utd dont need to have a Huge Name Manager they just need someone competent and with a vision and drive. Examples: Maresca, Slot, Emery
You mean like Ten Hag?
That mullet is a crime against humanity. Straight red.
I can think of millions of crimes against humanity but not hair styles
VAR must be doing game fixing at this point, happened before why not now?
Southgate on his way and signing kalvin phillips is inevitable
In the Liverpool Arsenal game, I thought the players were going to lie down and take a nap When VR Was checking for an offsides took forever you could see the officials in the booth. They look like they don’t know what they’re doing.
Michael Oliver is the worst ref to ever exist
This is a sad day for the other 19 prem teams 😪
I fully get what Mark says but this can’t keep going mate. It is too bad. And I don't even support United
problem with southgate he sticks with his favs even if its not working
As a United fan, i am sick of people like Mark that say "we are United" Mark WE ARE NOT UNITED HAVE NOT BEEN FOR TEN PLUS YEARS. So as another fan shutup and accept the fact we are trash and Glazers still here.
I’m a rival fan and a bit disappointed. The writing was on the wall with everything that went with the FA Cup final and with van Nistelrooy coming in
Absolutely fuming . It’s a discrace . He deserved another season 😂😂
Michael Oliver should get at taste of the championship or league one for a few months.
Mark I think will needs to stop drinking 😂, great show both of you
as long as they don't come for Chris Davies I don't give a toss, Ten Hag is the winner here walking away with a reported £8 million !!
He's the manager to make spurs champion. Mark my word. Incentive is this sack.
Money never been an incentive for Teen Haag he was already a millionaire before coaching coming from the wealthiest family in Holland
Rashy, Harry & Bruno: Another one bites the dust, another one bites the dust yeah yeh yeeeeee, another one bites the dust...
Legit If We get Gareth Southgate I will go mad 😂
I think the thing with united is looking at who is the top manager available… i think you need to pick a manager based on a style of play and player. The style has changed from jose, ole, van gaal and ten hag they all play differently and the players with different styles. Look at klopp to slot, its the same style and the same as pelligrini to pep… yes they had better teams but it was always a build in the same mould
Thinking Emry would leave 4th placed in prem and top of champions league where he has complete control and his backroom staff in place to go be told he's just a head coach at a toxic 14th placed team is just deluded
I'm pretty sure u was saying Enzo would be first to go for Chelsea Goldbridge my old son, I knew it would be Ten hag but to go out on that VAR decision is very harsh tbf
He's gone for 4 wins in all comps this season, the teams inability to score goals and lack a clear and consistent plan
Goldbridge spot on in his opinions on officiating! I am moving closer and closer to turning my back on the EPL.
They were going so defensively but conceded a goal from a counter-attack. Make it make sense.
Ten Hag has won more than Arteta the past 2 seasons. Jus sayin’…
And look at the quality of the two sides. I've seen arsenal win enough fa cups i dont even care about them in the slightest. I'd rather try to challenge for the league than a dead trophy, dead team and dead seasons. Yes arsenal are bottlers etc., I'd still rather be us than utd and surely no one disagrees
Just goes to show you can't judge a side on knockout competitions. We (Arsenal) were dire 2014-2020 but somehow won 4 FA Cups.
United should go all out and get Arteta
@@maccas5060 😂😂😂😂😂
Arsenal are over reliant on scoring from set pieces
I am a Liverpool supporter. That was no pen for West Ham. No attempt was made by De Ligt to trip the West Ham player, he wasn't even looking at him. I am praying for Southgate to get the job and ensure a few more years of mediocrity.
14:30 I burst into laughter to that hahaha, timing was perfertion
Mikel played a back 5 until he got players.. that can play a back 8 😅
Make Roy Keane manager with Peter Schmeichel as assistant 😁
I really enjoyed this show, Will is great and Mark is awesome, will isn't scared to have his say. We need to see Will on more shows
I think Rodri deserves the Ballon d'Or! He's been the standout nomination for 18 months. Vini Junior is amazing but you could put a few Real players in there that would still get the job done. City and Spain don't win what they've won without Rodri, Real would've still won without.
I'd love to see Keane get the job
I think United should go for Xavi Hernandez. He really set Hansi up to succeed bringing Barca from the depths of despair ready for a coach like Hansi to lift off. He won the league his first season. His biggest weakness is European competition, but United aren’t even in the champions league so who cares if he’s bad there if we aren’t even competing to begin with
As a Liverpool fan that is no way a penalty and this why I hate VAR, and even though you can not say it Mark, I will the Premiership is corrupt as fook, all VAR has done , it has made it easier to control the outcome of games, and there is to many to mention, and in all honesty i can not believe more can not see it.
He was never supposed to have started the season in the 1st place with man united
When I saw Michael Oliver as our VAR refree I knew we were in danger for a controversial decision
United fan here and that was an absolute penalty. how can u just ran into someone like that in the box
GARY SOUTHGATE DOING THE CUSSIONS ON THE DECKCHAIRS INSTEAD OF SENDING PEOPLE TO THE LIFERAFTS THANKS GUYS❤😂😂😂😂😂
Would have prefered to keep Ten Hag, atleast then you know ManU would never be a threat lmao.
Liz Truss in
VAR finally broke the bridge for Ten Hag!
Just a few months back I heard Eric Ten Bob was the best Dutch manager, I guess he was not looking forward to the away game against Slot, who he slagged off?
Wow how much did they pay mark to remain ten Haag in
If Southgate gets that job man united are finished
Anyone noticed how many times they say fundamentally?
Gareth Southgate. NO NO NO. How good is he as a coach when he can't pick the best of the best.BAD!!
Southgate is great manager. Nest England had lol
I have a question for everybody, when it comes out that the referees were in the wrong and it will, will apology be good enough? Because it cost Manchester United three points and also a manager. You can’t get that back.
Arsenal don't have the resources of City ? Arsenal have just outspent Cty by hundreds of millions in the past couple of seasons
City has had a world class squad past 6 years. Makes it easier, plus lately they have mastered the buy low sell high game with players. Graelish is proabably the biggest mistep as far as money spent
until they have their day in court , city's 115 will be all over them , arsenal playing the game fair and square
What would VAR say about VAR
Arsenal were 5points off city just in like Feb last year wasn’t it. And then come April weren’t they ahead of City. Titles over is wild talk
Michael Oliver is to Manchester City what Howard Webb was to Manchester United.
If Ten Hag only wanted to coach it's beyond me how bad and uncoached Man Utd looked !!
As a Chelsea fan this is the worst possible news
Amorim will only leave Sporting by the end of the season, he is seeking something that Sporting doesn't do since 1981, which is winning two portuguese leagues in a row. So, that option is not possible for United
Out of all the teams hes been linked with why would he chose man u?
United's most successful manager since Fergie
Stop messing around and pay the release clause and get Ruben Amorim in.
If the new manager doesn't want the present coaches and we sack them, do we have to pay them compensation as well.
Howard Webb was United' s Little Helper for years
I don’t think the squad is good enough to be competing for to much.
I feel sorry for the manager who consider taking the United job.
Never feel sorry for millionaires
The penalty against United was nothing compared to the one not given to arsenal
How would the game change if footballers where employed like us all. So no set 3 year contracts, you get em-loved and work week to week. If your rubbish, you can be made redundant
Konate got the ball. De Guire kicks Ings' shin
I'm a Liverpool fan, I don't like a weak Man U, I just like us to be better. This was always going to happen.
Honestly veŕy shocked by this we tried to build around Trn Hag this summer we got new coaches for him his signings seems like we we were waiting till end of the season
SOUTHGATE IN!!
RODRI WINS THE BALLON D'OR
Mark saying over and over again WERE MANCHESTER YANITED as if they're a respectable club nowadays.. You would think managers would prefer coaching other sides opposed to whatever Ten Hag has left.
Something must have happened because Ruben Amorim is now 1/3 odds to be the next man utd manager!
Arsenal gifted Liverpool nothing. Liverpool erned that point very hard working. We gifted them a point because of stupid mistakes from our defenders.
Like to see Roy keane for the job
Always seems to be when there are bad calls from the refs Michael Oliver is always involved in some way worst ref in the league
Give David Moyes his fair shot!