Real Time with Bill Maher: Helicopter Parenting (HBO)
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
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In his editorial New Rule, Bill Maher implores parents to embrace the concept of “free-range parenting” and give their children some much-needed space.
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My mom used to tell me as a child, 'Go out and play, and come back when it gets dark.'
Imagine any parent saying that today...
Yup. Come back when you hear us ring the cow bell as we played in the park since age five.
My mom didn't even say that! I went home because the other kids went home because "the street lights came on." :-)
By 11 years old I was traveling alone up to 15 miles from my home neighborhood on New York City subways, walking through all kinds of neighborhoods, seeing all kinds of people and all kinds of urban situations and felt completely normal. I can't imagine the effect of all this sheltering on kids today.
As someone who has helicopter parents and is trakced 24/7, this is accurate. We spend 90% of the time at home because if we dare go outside we better have a good explanation for out parents.
Fuck me, when I was a kid I used to ride a bike down a hill in a forest 10 miles away from home, crash it, come back home by foot, fix it and repeat the process. It was really freaking fun! And I always had company, like 3-4 friends. It wasn't so long ago, I'm a pretty young guy. What happened?
I did the same thing, but by accident. Lol. But it was fun.
well i live in Europe but i'm originally from an African nation, i made my mind long ago that i will never raise my children here, they don't raise kids here they detain prisoners, prisoners who grow up awkward, alone and weak. our generation truly had it great but i'm also glad that children in 3rd world countries are still having the same conditions that we had... and so off to Africa i shall go
@@belkacemgueliane7490 I thought Europeans were free-range parents who let their kids do whatever the fuck they want?
@@suckadick7754 yeah not really, better than americans for sure but not ideal, everything is supervised, everyone is super protective, in my long years living in Paris i have never seen a kid play outside with their friends, like not ONE FUCKING TIME. what really baffles me is that no one understands that there is smth wrong
2 years later and it's getting even more ridiculous. As a parent you have to fear more about some other "Good Samaritan" parent calling the police on you than something actually happening to your kid.
LOL, I had free range parenting, they threw me out the door to play for
the day. My mother even threw an old table and some chairs after me, so I
could have some toys to play with. ;)
As someone who comes from this exact situation.... ALL OF THIS!!!
No 3 likes after 5 years? No one's with you lol.
Helicopter parenting is not about the children, but about the parents. It is about the parents wanting to look good in the eyes of other parents. Look at me and what I do for my children.
The children are fine. It's the self-serving narcissist parents that are wrong.
When we think about bad parents, we think of things like the weirdos who stalk their kids on Facebook. But this whole generation of parents are just fucking nuts. They do not even have the basic common sense of a 9-year-old.
This, of course, leads to the question, what has made them this way? I know that most people are pathetic hasbeens by the time the time they reach adulthood, have realized that whatever potential they had as a child, or was told they had, is gone. But today's parents go way beyond being mere waste of human life.
As someone who has a helicopter parent I say: THANK YOU!!!!!
also here they really affect my confident as teenger and in the end they saying to me why you are so shy and less talking with people , I am leaving them soon I wish the same thing to you too
My mother used to to kick us out on a summer morning and tell us not to come back until dinner.
On weekends, after helping with farming chores, our parents basically didn't know where we would go next.. Ten miles away playing soccer, 5 miles away chasing wild rabbits, or 6 miles from home swimming in rivers. Our parents only realized when a child is absent during supper
When this “free range” parents story came up recently, it made me think back to when I was a kid which was pretty much the hands-off situation more prevalent in the 1960-70s and it prompted me to use Google Maps to plot out the extent of my “range” back in the day between the age of 8 and 12. Turns out it was an area of about 4 miles.
***** I grew up in Ft.Lauderdale Fl. in the 5os, when I was 10 I would ride my bike to the beach everyday..it was about 10 miles !
Jeff Creel And lived to tell about it! :)
As it should be
When I was a kid, parents would kick the kids outside for the day and tell them to not come home until dinner. Now, kids aren't allowed to leave home without their parents. Ridiculous.
That's actually kinda fucked up
" I have always detested any departure from reality, an attitude which I relate to my mother's poor mental health. "
Jean Piaget
When I was a kid, I fell off a big metal slide. They banned those.
I also slipped and busted my chin open on a wet metal jungle gym. They've banned those too.
I never got clocked by one of those metal merry-go-rounds, but I knew kids who did. They've all been banned.
The 90's were just too Metal for each following generation to handle.
If your child ever utters the phrase "It's too swingy!", whilst on the swings, you have made several terrible mistakes, as a parent.
This aged well.... we have some of the highest anxiety rates in our history
1:30 This shows his George Carlin influence. He said the exact same thing.
I’m on the older end of the millennial generation (born in ‘86), and though I didn’t realize it at the time or appreciate it until I was well into adulthood, I was one of the last age groups of kids to be raised in this “free range” manner. Kids need the freedom to explore their world a little bit without adult supervision. I have to wonder what kinds of issues that kids who were raised by “helicopter parents” are going to face during their lives as a result of their upbringing.
I lived on the west side, but the only movie theater on the bus line was on the north side, requiring 2 buses. I was told to 1) call when I got there and 2) call when I was on my way home. I was 9, 10, 11... I went to art school downtown on Saturdays for 5 years. Same rules. We didn't have a car until I was a senior in college. I lived the furthest from my schools and WALKED. Still here.
A big part of this is that American cities have prioritized low density suburban development where you have to use a car to go anywhere or do anything. Children who cannot drive are trapped. Even if they want to go somewhere, they can’t without their parent driving them. This is not how it works outside of North America. in Asia and Europe, children frequently use their bike or public transit to travel around the city by themselves or with friends. That is literally impossible in the US.
"And all because we think outside is where the baby snatchers are..."
"The 326 adolescent sexual assault victims experienced 462 separate cases of sexual assault. In these cases, *nearly three in four (74 percent) reported that the assault was committed by someone they knew well.* Almost one-third of sexual assault cases (32.5 percent) involved perpetrators who were friends, and more than one-fifth (23.2 percent) were strangers. Another one-fifth (21.1 percent) were committed by a member of the youth’s family, including fathers or stepfathers, brothers or stepbrothers, sisters or stepsisters, grandparents, other adult relatives, and other child relatives. *In terms of location, more than half of all sexual assaults occurred either within the victim’s home (30.5 percent)* or in the victim’s neighborhood (23.8 percent). Another 15.4 percent of sexual assaults occurred at the victim’s school." [my emphasis]
Source: U.S. Department of Justice Report: _Youth Victimization: Prevalence and Implications_
Link: www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/194972.pdf
So actually *inside* is "where the baby snatchers are".
colourmegone a
Good use of source's
@@calvertmorris2420 bad use of "word's"
You know your a helicopter parent if you delete safari, monitor all incoming texts, and get notifications whenever your kid downloads an app.
2:21 😂😂😂😂 The Clown Joke "Were these kids being chased by a clown with his dick out" 😂😂OMG I LOST IT
I refer this video to the Johnathan Haidt interview in October 2018 where Dr. Haidt explains this issue and how it started.
As a parent I’m never satisfied with my own parenting. Some tell me I’m too involved and others say I’m not involved enough.
"My mother always looked a little disappointed when I came back!"!!!!!
"Crib monitors? Why? What are they gonna do, turn into werewolves in the middle of the night?" lmfao
That would make for a good horror comedy movie called; 'WE'RE THE SUBURBAN PARENTS OF A BABY WEREWOLF!'
That would be awesome lol.
I would go beyond Bill's statement to crazy parenting, stating that mom & dad I need space. I would say mom & dad, fuck off, end of statement.
32 people sprayed Lysol on everything before allowing the kids to see this video.
+Al Logan And covering the children in Purell
Kite Flying Pooh What's to say they even let their kids watch this video?
_It's got those scary swear words!_
And the other 22 watched the video and demanded their children did not see it
If parents are sooooooo in their kids faces , explain all the dumb shit these kids video tape themselves doing & post online? This isn't an issue. Dumbing down this generation & them being the leaders of tomorrow (simply by default) is an issue.
chasemebaby I don't think parents are ENOUGH in their kids' faces. If they were kids today wouldn't be sitting at the dinner table glued to their bullshit cell phones just in case somebody calls them, texts them or e-mails them. What a tragedy if they missed one of those.
Michael Smith WOW "Mind Blown". You must have went to Harvard. Because I never knew that until you told me. You deserve a medal or something. Thanks so much you god damn genius. Now go back to inventing a cure for something I know your time is precious. ( ;
+chasemebaby This is a very serious issue!!! The philosophy behind this important movement is that the opportunity cost of restraining these kids is much much higher than the statistically improbable potential for harm. As for that "dumb shit these kids video tape themselves doing," do you really think that is a representative sample of how kids spend their time nowadays? Furthermore, what evidence do you have that forcing rules on them is helping and not hurting? I hope you aren't a parent.
Michael Smith You're welcome faceless fake named definitely ugly & lonely person. Have a great day. ( :
Michael Smith You would know being the ugliest troll hiding behind your screen. You cant hurt people when you hide. come out come out whoever you are & then we'll see.
Blame T.V. and the general media. The stuff they see and hear has got parents completely hyper.
15-20 years ago, this type of behavior would have been laughed at. What has happened to childhood? Like my childhood of riding my bike two blocks at ages 8-10 is an alien experience? Goddamn...These kids need some fucking help
I agree with maher on most of the points he made in this vid but his subtle disparagement of squid porn took it a lil too far
One thing I've noticed that's different from when I was a kid is that there are no kids outside playing in the neighborhoods anymore. When I was growing up there was always a pack of kids roaming the neighborhood so when we went out to play our parent's didn't have to worry about us being alone. I guess everyone is inside playing video games these days.
Heywood Jablomi We walked several blocks to school, then did as we damn well pleased for a couple hours on the way home! I feel badly for kids now....
most of the ones I know have a strict, organized, structured lifestyle - daily!!! :(
stormwatcher59 A few times my friends and I had to sit with wet feet all day in first grade....
because we decided to wade in the ditches on the way! lol
Guess what? None of us died!
That's the problem with this generation, they lost not only their minds but really their common sense
What's weird is that parents that are my age grew up in the same time period I did and, like Maher said, when your parents wake up and make sure you're still alive they were done for the day. Now, every time one of their kids farts they run in there, snatch them up and take them to the doctor. He should've also brought up letting kids sleep in the same beds as their parents. That's some fucked up shit right there alone.
iremember when i was young back in the 70's. you were sent outside to play and told to come home to dinner at a certain time.
kids today are too soft with all the technology these days...
That's how it was in the eighties, too. "Don't go further than this street, be back by 8:00." We turned out fine.
Who designed, marketed, and sold the technology?
It says The Quatermass Experiment was 1953 so when I was 7 or 8 I went by Tube to Paddington Station to see off an older friend on holiday and came back alone by Tube. I played on the abandoned WWII overgrown army camp and ack-ack gun emplacements with flooded ammunition bunkers underground. When I was 5 or 6 there were still army guards who gave me sweets. The army camp entrance was down an alley way between Wormwood Scrubs prison and Hammersmith Hospital. I bicycled across London to see my Granny and get cocoa and stout ale. I played on the railway embankment and shunting yards around Old Oak sheds. The scariest thing that happened when I was 10 was 2 girls kept chasing me around and I ran off when they weren't looking.
This has to be the most hilarious comment section I have read in a while..Thanks earthlings for the laughs
I disappeared when I was 4 in 1960. I had 8 siblings so my mum's hands were full. When they found me, I was playing in a basketball court alone a mile away. I asked my mum if she was worried. She said she didn't even noticed until it's time for supper. I was gone after lunch.
Can't agree on some points though. With both parents working who has time to watch the kids, let alone helicopter parenting? Also children do get kidnapped & murdered by sickos. Who can say "i'll wait & see if my kids are kidnapped...?"
What? No link to that Japanese movie Bill talked about?
Well the problem is also excessive privacy. Where i grew up, not in the west, if i was playing somewhere, some random people would be watching us, and come and help if something went wrong, why? because its a community, and if we were doing something wrong they could hold our ears and take us to our parents and tell them what shit were were stirring up.
Guess what, our parents didnt sue them or charge them with child abuse, they offered them tea and a strict lecture to us.
An alert and responsive community.
Guess what we were doing? lighting fire in a bush in very dry summer to replicate a cartoon scene with stolen matchsticks and firecracker powder.
Well done Bill, that whole pornography talk was 100% right
What if half the porn you saw was human trafficking? Just think about that..
michael kelly Porn isn't good in any way if you take a little time to think about, it has negative effect on everyone in the country not just ones watching or doing it.
michael kelly It has a lot of negative effects on people who consume and those who make it and BTW Porn doesn't relieve stress or prevent prostate cancer !!
V4Vendetta You're right, masturbating relieves stress and prevents prostate cancer. But it's not easy without porn. That said, too much of anything is not good.
Tim Clarkson if you do enough research you find out that many people are having problems with it, and don't be selfish, I also include the pornstars, they are people too and their kids, its just quiet effed up..
"Were these kids being chased by a clown with his d*ck out?! No, then go back to watching Judge Judy!" - Bill Maher
Bill if that actually happened we would see on the news feed; 'KIDS BEING PURSUED BY PENNYWISE DURING THE FILMING OF IT CHAPTER 3!" ; - D
Dad: "Where you going?"
Me: "Down the street"
Dad: "Come home when the street lights come on. Don't make me come get you."
Me: "K. Love you, dad."
Dad: "Love you too."
Done!
I'm a product of helicopter parents. Don't recommend.
As a young person I think its funny because a lot of people from my generation are raised that it shouldn't be okay to leave the house and do stuff by ourselves. Luckily that doesn't always mean parent supervision, maybe just the buddy system. Me and a lot of the friends I associate with will hang out inside a lot, and why not? That's how we are raised to a certain extent. Honestly I don't mind that so much, I just found hobbies that I can do inside. Then when we become teenagers our parents get mad because we don't go outside. Noone knows what they want haha. My parents have never been too bad about hovering though really, not compared to other parents. I still had friends on my street when I was younger and I would ride my bike home from school, etc.
"I'm talking about today's professional parents... These obsessive diaper-sniffers, who are over-scheduling and over-managing their children and robbing them of their childhoods." (George Carlin)
Why is this so true 😰
The last part about the pornography scares the shit out of me. I don't have kids but sometimes i allready think about how i will protect my future children from that filth.
THE LAST JOKE OMFG :)))))
I’ve always noticed that parents that have lucrative Careers, spoil the hell out of their children out of guilt because they spend more time at work than they do with their children. They have nannies or babysitters that the children know more personal than their own parents. I don’t even understand why rich people even have children. They don’t have time to take care of them. They’re too busy chasing the mighty dollar. A lot of those kids probably think the nanny is their mother.
We walked home from the park when it was dark.
Bill Maher would make a great Dad. 😂🎉😢
i love this guy
I don't understand how free range parenting is even a thing. I'm 24 and remember vividly going to the park and walking home from school by myself and with my friends that were the same age
Back in the 70s in the Wheaton neighborhood of Silver Spring MD the Lyon sisters about 11 or 12 walked alone to the Wheaton Mall and disappeared. The case was never solved. Bill, our world gets more dangerous with each passing year. Free range parenting is inviting disaster in any decade after the fifties. Abductions, school shootingsand other gun violence, crib death, super bugs, lead poisoning, food and travel safety, terrorist attacks, sex trafficking are only a few new things parents have to worry about.
I don;t know what to do. I was concreting in the big city and I would get phone calls from my parents calling me selfish for leaving them (I was 22). I wen to a New Years beach festival (I'm from New Zealand) and my parents sent people after me to try and find me. I don;t know what to do. I am leaving the country next year, I have dealt with it for so long and it has been so unbearable. I am 23 now and they relentlessly enact control over every aspect of my life. If i leave they will find out where I live and try to real me back. Every thing I consider to be a great leap forward in life, they interpret as a horrible mistake. They live in a small rural town where there is no work and they think my financial future is better there. I don't even know if I can stick it out before leaving in December to another country it's so unbearable. I've lasted months and I don;t want to have to go through it again.
i'm in your same situation!!, i'm going to terapy and that helps me a little, but i stll have a lot of work to do, if you want to talk with somebody i volunteer as tribute hah, it really helps to have someone to talk to!
I've been accepted with a scholarship to the second most prestigious animation school in the world. Vancouver Film School. And dad is trying to obstruct it. Trying to prevent my mother co-signing the loan.
wowo , I'm sorry you have to go through that situation , try to make them see that that's what would make you happy, your dreams are yours, you're an independent person, and if they can't see it you have to take your life in your hands. It's hard,of course but if you don't follow your dreams you will become a sad person, and of course blame your parents for all the things that you didn't do, take chances, get out of your comfort zone, take risk. a good way to start is being financially independent , that will give you great freedom and trust, also helps find a support network outside your home , friends, psychologist .
I hope that with this you feel a little less alone and can find a way out of this situation.
PD(Sorry for my english, it{s really basic
Financial independence isn't the issue. I have everything established in Vancouver, work, school, accommodation, everything. And he's just trying to overturn it. All I need is a co signer for the loan! It's absurd. I don't know what's up with your situation? And what they have been doing to obstruct you?
i'm 25 and all my life they didn't let me do anything if they wasn't happy with it, even in the way i dress, once i was really excited for an oportunity that came to me about a scholarship program away from home but my mom convinced me that i wasn't worthy of going, and that i should just study here in my country and get a job close to them and of course just move from their house when i get married. I lose that chance and i regret i didn't fight for it. I realized that i don't want that, but i was still emocionally attached to them and i didn't have money. but that and other experiencies gave me the strength of taking my choices, i move out and find a job and start taking care of myself, and even if they aren't happy with my decissions they can't do anything because i'm a different person and i have the rigth to make mistakes. it's hard to do it, but eventually they understand,and if they don't you have to live your life. About the loan what i recommend it's that you look for the advise of a lawer or someone for your university and tell them your situation, they'll probablky have answers.
Yeah, but when I was a kid, parents made an afford to actually teach their kids to have some boundaries and respect for adults so if they were misbehaving they knew they'd have to pay attention to adults in the area instead of just running around being little assholes with no consideration for how annoying they are to the people around them.
We took some responsibility for our behavior. Now kids just roam around randomly in the middle of the road looking at damn smart phones just expecting everyone driving to stop because they're too damn lazy to get out of the middle of the fucking road.
If parents aren't going to teach their kids any manners or common sense, I say keep the little mother fuckers locked up at home so I don't have to deal with the little monsters they've created.
When I was 7 I would ride my bike 2 miles away and go home late
I'm somewhere between Millenial and Zoomer and I'm extremely grateful that my parents raised me to go play outside without supervision. Am I the last kid who did this???
I have one child. She was over protected, and probably given to much, and was not made to do housework, and she turned out perfectly. I'm not just saying that. She is at the end of her junior year at OSU, she was just inducted into The Phi Beta Kappa honor society, and she is a gifted, awarded writer with a flawless record. She joins every leadership groups she can, she works to pay her own rent, and is taking out loans to pay for school. What ever we did worked.
Marty Helms, you RUINED your child. Overprotected children end up to be dependent failure w/no life skills. Your daughter will eventually HATE you for being overprotective.
@@gmwilliamsful dude go fuck off
Anyone here ever, as a kid, played outside so long you drank from a hose so you could stay out longer?
The sad part is that 2 blocks is more than enough for a kid to get snatched away.
True, Bill.
Kids, if you can handle the glue, you can handle the gluten...
Bill, about the clown chasing those two kids with his wang-chung out! Witnesses confirmed it was Pennywise as the culprit! X - D
Except all these “bad parents” today are the result of past parenting practices - so maybe that past parenting didn’t work so well.........
4:17 - as disturbing as it sounds there are worse forms of Japanese pornography than that Bill.
+Avon Pendragon ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) such as ?
Pokémon banging pokémon
Now, this is crazy Bill
I know this is comedy, but maher hit a crucial point.
Adults seem frustrated with us younger generations (not all) and they blame us for being spoiled and passive. Thats because of you parents that didnt know hoe to raise us.
Parents create psychological instability in kids because their un-perceptivness of how the human being works.
We are completely missing important aspects of life that should be teached. Im 23 so i am an adult technically, but i lack a lot of basis for ordinary life, because my parents did wrong (i love them, but this is the truth).That makes me feel weak and i get more depressed and this cycle continues. I want to ask help from my parents but they still don't understand their mistakes, and also communication is absent.
This is just a rant so calm down, but still realize that we are becoming weaker as a species in a lot of aspects.
I miss my granpa, he was strong and was the authority in the family, we all respected him. He was the only one the notice that my cousin had a slight malformation to the leg and needed care. His other daughters and siblings didnt notice (and yet all his female daughters were the first to brag about how they are perceptive, have an ancient mother's spirit and other bullshit).
Maybe i was unlucky, this was just and example, i would need years of therapy to put this things in perspective lol.
I DID hear that there's a Catholic church between their house and the park...
ahahaha!!
LOL! That was pretty funny.
Say it as it is Bill
Poor squids.
Tell them Bill.
Here here...
So... the squid I saw on the sushi conveyor belt the other day... ew.
When I was a kid I use to here news stories of kids being out on their own and getting seriously injured, getting into trouble, hurting other kids, getting kidnapped, or getting killed and they always asked: where were the parents so now that I'm a parent and I always know where my kids are, what they're doing, and whom they're with people are starting to ask why we don't let our kids go out on their own? I guess we're all parenting wrong no matter what.
Make America Great Again if it were only that easy. Ha ha. Also, I hate inform you but America is not a country, it's 2 continents. North and South.
Makes me think of Tipper Gore
4:02 so no parents ever try to google "Tentacle" and "school girls" together? Just try doing that once and they'll make sure their kids never touches the internet
Kids main threat .. Cars!
Squirrels on meth!? Maybe there's a cartoon idea?
I don't know, Bill, when I was ten I had parents on the weekends, and I didn't turn out that well.
when i was a kid i used to play outside with my friends. and i turned out mentally ill! for reals now since are we the sane ones?
I'll be completely honest. I did not see squid coming. Pun unintended.
I agree with him. But I think this is an overreaction to the seriouly neglectful parenting that was the norm in the seventies. The pendulum swings back and forth, you see.
Bill is spot on as (almost) always
New Rule: for every new daughter that's born, the father gets a free gun.
"For every daughter, there's a dad with a gun."
-Lucas Horvath
From a guy too selfish to have children.
The links below are what I'm referring to.
Its different world, today people are crazy
No, they've always been crazy...they just hid it better back then! : \
from the age of 10 I got to/ had to ride my bike to school 6km to and 6km back. than I drove to my drama class, wich sometimes ment that I stayed by meself in the art center for 4 hours, until class started. at the same age my mum would take me to the city where she worked gave me some cash and just let me wonder around. at 12 I got to stay home during the weekends by myself. It was fine. I didn't blow up the hous, started doiung drugs (well,not yet at least)
I doubt very much that the problems with today's kids are caused by parents paying TOO MUCH attention.
bluebina0327 studies say otherwise
Why are we glamorizing parents of free range children while despising parents of latch key children? They're both parents who leave their children unattended. If they allowed their dogs the same opportunity to roam freely, they would be fined by the state and shamed by the community.
EH CBunny Not that I have much of an opinion on the subject seeing as how I am 19, and I don't really want any children. But it probably isn't a good idea to compare children to dogs if you are making a point. haha
Some people emphasize with animals and not children despite once being a child. While I Agee child seem to be more anxious it's not because of the parents. It's social media.
Bill doesn't recognize one factor here. My generation----growing up in the 60s-70s---was the last one for whom it was safe for little kids to walk home alone from school, and this was in a suburban middle-class town north of Boston with a relatively low general crime rate. Wasn't wholly safe then, either: from ages 5-9 I was lucky enough to evade about 4 attempts by strangers to get me into their car or otherwise take me by force. American business thrives on sexual ignorance and frustration (buy this car, it will get you laid!) and it has filled the land with monsters. Having a protective parent is hardly the worst that can happen to you, though they too are driven crazy with commercialized anxiety and the U.S.-domestic form of terrorism, called news.
splatoon..
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