THE BIGGEST CONQUEST IN HISTORY? - TommyKay Reacts to European Colonization of Americas
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- When you think about it, the European countries colonizing the Americas and the rest of the world is technically the biggest conquest in all of history.
Mongols who? Russia who? China who? Romans who? Planet of Jupiter who?
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As we all know, Tommy's knowledge in history isn't as vast as you would think. Even though he plays a lot of strategy games like HOI4, CK2, EU4 and other Paradox games, he is very limited in his knowledge in a lot of parts of history. One of them being the whole age of colonization, especially the early parts. How did the massive expansion of European countries start? How did they become these vast colonial empires that could rival the Mongol Empire? How did they become so rich and overcame the prestige of China? Well with a lot of really bad stuff happening in Americas for example. The Spanish colonizing, what we now know as, Latin America. Portugal colonizing Brazil. France, the UK and Netherlands colonizing North America. USA colonizing the whole world. You get the idea. The Americas are a big deal in human history. After the discovery of these continents, the whole dynamic of the world changed. The power went from Asia to Europe in a small amount of time and events like these shape the world to this day.
Oh yeah Tommy will also react to the War of 1812 which he knows actually nothing about. He didn't even know that the British burnt down the White House. It's fun learning together so go watch the video now! Why are you still reading this description anyways lol.
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Poor natives :(
I feel as though they forgot to research new military technology
if only they researched military tech 4...
Not really, was a bunch of cannibal Savages there.
I don't know why people look at Avatar and use as a prime example of native people in every land when that's far from the case most of the time. It's unfortunately closer to the movie Green Inferno.
nah
Silk is made by silkworms and there was a silk manufacturing industry in italy as well as Rome(greek rome) but it could by no means keep up wuth european demand thus the bulk of silk came via the silk road or through Cairo
Tommy: Where does the word "Canada" comes from?
Most of the chat: It's native word
That one random guy: *CaNaDiO vEsPuCCi*
Tasty meme
respect to him man
It always trips me out when I click to a completely random section of the video just to get into it and see which video Tommy was watching and it’s the exact part referenced in the first comment I see
Does that happen to anyone else all the time?
@@RifleEyez yes
*Educating Tommy:*
Two nestorian monks came to emperor Justinian's palace (6th century C.E.) telling him that they can travel to China and find out the secret about the production of silk. The monks claimed they had travelled to China before. After many years they returned with many silkworms and all the knowledge one needs to produce silk.
From then and on the Roman Empire (byzantine) would be the only place in Europe that produced silk. The Byzantine silk was however of lower quality than the Chinese but still a very very profitable business for them. Until the 4th crusade they would produce silk and they would maintain a silk monopoly in Europe.
The secret of silk was normally protected by the Chinese but in the 6th century China was at a period of huge unrest and civil war.
The twitch chat is too dumb to know these (although I saw some trying to tell you, Tommy). The silk worms could survive in the climate of Europe and the plants that they ate were also present in Europe.
Here's a Kings and Generals video about it:
ruclips.net/video/KZpIBfBr4UI/видео.html
In the last centuries of middle age Italy became one of the largest silk producer, as it still is today.
@@lecronachedisheogorath2626 "Until the 4th crusade", i think we all know why
@@dafuqmr13 DEUS VULT DEUS VULT DEUS VULT DEUS VULT DEUS VULT DEUS VULT DEUS VULT DEUS VULT
If tommykay didn't play HOI4 then he would not know that WW2 was a thing
The war of 1812 was like that random unmarked quest you did and forgot in fallout new vegas because you had more serious shit going on like the fuckibg napoleon
@Jayden Dan Dominquez you shot mein fhürer! 😰
And to be fair even people in Asia thought the world map was like that.
It made sense so why should they believe otherwise
You mean that you could go west (east for them) to reach the other part or the known world at first of the video?
@@jakobkiilerich3588 yeah they never heard any contact whit other great civilization so for them it was just an empty sea since all the previous explorer never came back (since there ship where not well build for that before 1400 voyaging on sea was more just follow the cost line even after and today its rare for ship to just go on sea whe prefer to keep to the coast line)
@@aoki6332 True, but they didnt believe it was an empty sea. When Christopher Columbus landed in the caribbean, he thought he landed in some islands east of Japan. The reason why people theorized that it was possible to reach asia by going west, was because no one knew the true size of asia and what laid between Europe and Asia (islands and such)
little did they know
“What if England was in a civil war”
“What if England took more in the Caribbean”.
Tommy your 150 years early. The English had a civil war, then took Jamaica from the Spanish
They also tried it in Santo Domingo and let's just say they didn't do very well XD.
Didnt he say "What if England came to the caribbean first" ?
Don’t forget the Spanish trying to invade Britain to instill a Catholic ruler over the Protestant Elizabeth
Wait Tommykay, the biggest Streamer on HOI4 doesn't get invited to the Paradox Multiplayer but Dankus does? Wtf?
Out with the old and in with the new or something like that, they did our ginger boomer wrong I say!
Blackballed
let Danky Wanky flourish, its all good
TommyKay: Man neopoleon had high aggressive expansion he probably had a coalition form
7 coalitions later: Neopoleon exiled on st. Hellina
Chat: complains that the video was only focusing on North America.
Tommy: “Yoo I didn’t know about 1812”
Video: goes back to South America to cover the Mapuche and the formation of Argentina, thus being ignored by Tommy
Tommy's chat or any twitch chat when talking about history or politics are autistic
TommyKay, you need to know the history of "Klein Venice", the first german colonie in america 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
Tommy never checks youtube comments man
Huehuehue.
Spelt colony like a German lol
tommy doesnt, markoni does !
@@TommyKay Hi markoni, your editing is great!
"TommyKay Reacts" let me give you a better title: "TommyKay talks about how he doesn't know shit about history and how cool it would be to be able to see the past... while a random video is playing in the background"
Honestly, I do like seem react to vids, but sometimes it is tad annoying when he pauses so much, just to unpause and keep talking over the video
yes
I feel like every time a history video comes up he will always bring up the Assassin‘s Creed simulation device.
yes
1812 was a sideshow for Britain. We weren’t even trying to invade until Napoleon was felt with.
I also hate how much it’s bigged up and the “victories” of the Americans, they always put so much emphasis despite the fact that we just didn’t care enough to do much.
Even though we won the bloodiest battle of the war and had them sue for peace after we burnt down the white House. In Canada we learn about It once then learn about the treatment of the natives and Western expansion.
To the Americans it was a victory because they achieved their main purpose of entering the war in the first place with the peace deal. American was a new and weak country at this point, it had no official military, only using local militia men and mostly converted merchant ships. Yet, America still defeated one of the most professional militaries in the world and the best navy in the world on several occasions. The British claim to win because they burned down the white house. But no territory was gained and the Americans got exactly what they wanted, for the British to stop supporting Native American tribes to rise up and fight against America. In the end, Britain achieved the status quo and even lost many troops, particularly at the end of the war, to more or less American farmers. Meanwhile, America beat such a professional army with local farmers and gained exactly what they wanted from the war. Seems like an American victory to me. At worst, it's a stalemate.
@@thomasverhy8126 The Americans didn't sue for peace, the British sued for peace in 1814, concluding in 1815. After the British loss on Lake Champlain at the Battle of Plattsburgh, Britain sued for peace as the war was not worth it. Britain had been exhausted by the twenty year with war with France, especially financially. So with not much to gain, no desire to continue the war, and a crippled economy, Britain sued for a relative white peace with the exception of a stipulation not to interfere with Native American tribes in their desire to rise up against the Americans in the mid-west. This was the primary goal of the American government from the start of the war. So it's a stalemate for the British/Canadians at best and a slight victory for America at worst, considering it's primary motivation to join the war was achieved. And against local militia men at that. That's why it's not seen as a defeat in America and instead seen as a draw by the vast majority of modern historians.
@@tresca4579 but you the Americans didn’t fight a professional army, they fought the Canadians (no offence) and when the British army came in after defeating napoleon, we invaded and won.
Yeah, we lost troops, shall I introduce you to war, it causes the death of soldiers, even the winning ones.
@@purpledevilr7463 Firstly, that's not true. The British forces were made up of regulars and Fencibles (Fencibles being volunteer forces). So no, it was a professional army (Slightly smaller in size) but with defensive positions vs a disorganized and poorly trained militia with slightly superior numbers (7,000 vs 5,000 at war start & Outnumbered 35,000 vs 48,000 by wars end) but on the offensive. The compositions of the armies were very similar to the Revolutionary War. Here's a quote from the Wikipedia article detailing the War of 1812 forces "Although the British were outnumbered,[121] the long-serving regulars and fencibles were better trained and more professional than the hastily expanded United States Army". This is exactly the same as the revolutionary war as the raising of the countries military had not changed it's system. It still relied on poorly trained militia men (Fun fact: This has a lot to do with the modern gun culture in America).
Second, yes, war does cause causalities. I didn't mention the losses of the British forces because the Americans didn't lose any lives. I mentioned it because Britain achieved nothing but the status quo and the loss of lives in the peace deal. Meanwhile, the Americans actually achieved their casus belli. Hence why I mentioned the loss of British life and why it's relevant. As nothing was gained for those lives besides not losing territory.
man It makes me sad how misinformed tommy is
That wasn't very internet of you :(
@@benjaminbube5672 oh well I guess so
In europe they just learn ablut europe and if your are german you just learn the unification, the division and reunification
90% of People are because they arent interested in history, Same as many people dont care about physics
@@Matteo-gu5jf yes it is a big problem I belive that we should learn math and science but I think we forget about history and I think we should expand history more in schools.
"scotland shall be free" I wasn't aware they wasn't free.
Exactly.
They are still not an independent country. So yes, still enslaved.
@@MrHammerman97 They are not enslaved. And technically they created the Kingdom of Great Britain.
Although Tommy was probably just joking around, it does sound quite offensive to say that Scotland wasn't free. Maybe better understanding of the Scottish independence debate might be necessary or maybe he was just joking around as I said before, saying things like that can really change the debate from an equal partner debating it's position in a equal union to something that looks like it came straight from the scramble of Africa.
@@MrHammerman97 'enslaved' lol don't fuckin kill me
NEW TOMMYKAY VIDEO BABY LETS GOOOOOOOOO
LETS GOOOOOO
TOMMY, WHERE. IS. THE. GODDAMN. MEGA CAMPAIGNNN
I love geo history, and the music really kills it!
Taking Canada in the revolutionary War was a serious consideration in the peace deals
Markoni if you see this you gotta make Tommy watch the extra history series on Bismarck, its really comprehensive on the history of Germany in the 1800's
can someone ask him to react to the war of the triple alliance? I work all day and I don't have time to watch his lives
This is much more interesting than almost any reaction video. He has discussions! Thank you Jesus and Markoni!
Fun fact: in the og Treaty of Tordesilhas, Portugal didnt have brazil in their part, but the portuguese king wanted to go more west, so they ended up getting brazil, and he didnt knew about brazil!!
he probably knew about brazil already that why he wanted more "water"
@@imjennasidel6703 we dont know it could have been that, or he just predicted it.
@@alvuigi_07 think like this, our king refused columbus, but why? well in my opinion its because he already knew about america and was trying to keep it a secret from the spanish and the rest of europe.
@@imjennasidel6703 maybe, it could be a secret that nobody wrote about and was only kept with the sailors and the king
@@alvuigi_07 maybe who knows 🤷🏻 ahah but its not hard to believe that the elites of that time would hide information from the people. I guess we will never know.
The narrator in the first video forgets to mention Aztec human sacrifice ruining diplomacy between them and the Spanish.
Also, while Tommy is right about how crosses often spread through force, Mexico is weird because unlike natives in the US continuously resisting religious conversion, the native Mexicans accepted Christianity relatively peacefully after the fall of the Aztec empire. The continued existence of the world after the end of human sacrifices undercut the Aztec religion, and the utilization of native religious imagery in "Our Lady of Guadalupe" and other outreach efforts during this crisis of local faith caused many Mexicans to accept Christianity as their own rather than being forced into it like other Native Americans further north.
Side note, the pilgrims in Thanksgiving were one of the few colonist groups that didn't hurt the natives, unlike most other colonist groups in North America.
And thats part of why Thanksgiving is still celebrated.
Because we're celebrating the colonists that DIDN'T hurt the natives.
And tbf, not all Natives were so innocent. They were human too, and had their own fair share of genocides and atrocities. Though obviously the Americans had the capacity to do more due to their tech advantage. :D
@@stephenjenkins7971 No but america bad, america evil that is all that matters.
@Luis guzman torrente At no point did I say otherwise. That was just the standard of the day, not an absolvent for today.
I can see Tommy enjoying himself in the new Victoria already.
If the story of Europeans genociding natives sounds ridiculous, it's because that wasn't the case. Natives killed each other at the same or even higher rate than Europeans did. They weren't a bunch of hippies like nowadays people make them to be. The Americas were filled with warrior societies that often practiced human sacrifices. At the end, what killed the majority of natives, by far, were illnesses brought by Europeans, but the same, though in a samller scale, happened to Europeans who came to the Americas too. For example, syphilis didn't exist in Eurasia or Africa before the colonization of The Americas. Also, the stupid claims of stolen lands makes no sense because no one at that time had a sense of nation, that's just our current view point and interpretation. No body "owns" the land they live on. Native lost their lands to a technologically superior foe and that's it.
The Americas were still in the stone age by the time Europeans got there. And yes, the Stone age, they didn't work bronce nor Iron in a sufficient scale (if at all) and that's just in Mesoamerica and the Andean civilization, almost everywhere else there were only hunter gatherer societies. And also, no American civilization on record had invented the wheel. So no wonder why European powers conquered America so easily. They brought the Americas from the Stone Age to Renaissance in one pull, ended human sacrifices and other barbaric practices, but also got rid of part of the native invaluable cultural heritage which is to be lamented. And yes, we are better of thanks to European colonization.
If America were still uncolonized, it would most than likely be the same as it was back then, due to the lack of implements to increase land output and general production, i.e. work animals. The closest to those are Bisons, but try to domesticate a Bison and see how that goes. The others were simply to weak for the task, hence why the wheel wasn't invented anywhere in the Americas, there was no animal to pull them nor the pull the Plow. Even so, the managed to build piramids and other architectural wonders and also reached a great deal of greatness, but sadly they were destined to remain there until something changed. And that change came from the Europeans.
he needs to check out extra credits otto bon bismark
extra credits needs to check out a history book
@@gustavingersson The information is fairly accurate. You want to talk about a channel that needs to check out a history book, look at The Infographics Show.
ye he might be interested actually
You should react to colonization of planets.
Christ Tommy when you opened out of that video I thought I was looking at my recommended for a second
Tommy's gonna have to buy a new spacebar key
7:10 As a Spaniard i must say... That you're right :(
*"I used to rule the world"*
Song kicked in in my head as soon as I read that.
TOMMYKAY IS MAKING THE MEGA CAMPAIGN AGAIN GUYS!
I hope we become a strong enough Galactic power to just destroy aliens when we come across them instead of the other way around.
Wait we had silk in Italy. We just had to steal it first, but we had it
To be honest, at 9:40, I disagree as in Poland people were converted to Catholicism peacefully. It was really the decision of the Polish people and not really forced upon them
I beg to differ, many or the reaming native Americans were forced into converting into Catholicism, via brute force. However, after centuries many Europeans, mainly from Catholic countries assimilated with the Indians or settled in Latin America that it was hard distinguish a person from Latin American to a European one. They pretty much adapted to Catholicism.
@@darkmemes953 That is not true, the Inquisition could not legally judge an American / Asian native of heresy, only Creoles and mestizos.
Tommy play kaiserredux
British army:
*burns white house*
Canada: we won!
Also British army right after:
*dies*
As a french I would love to speak in my native language with Tommy
That "France Antartique" settlement in Brazil is actually what motivated the Portuguese to found what's now Rio de Janeiro
They didn't cover the Battle of New Orleans: The most important battle of the war which didn't happen until the war was already over.
I think they did but it was cut out
It wasn’t the most important battle at all
@@lesdodoclips3915 That's why it's always included during talks about the war, right? Historians pretty conclusively note its importance, though note that it had little to do with the treaty that ended the conflict.
@@stephenjenkins7971 no, it’s always talked about because the American POV is always talked about. To American the battle could be argued as important, but to Britain, Canada and the war it was of no importance.
@@lesdodoclips3915 An opinion that has no bearing on the discussion, ultimately. A historian is supposed to talk about all POV's to gain insight, and any deep dive in this war does so. And they mention the battle in conjunction with the war.
good to know mega campaign part 2 will be out in like 3 months
EU4 takes so fucking long
Now that’s a bruh moment
The German states were apart of the holy Roman empire and were partly independent until the hre got disbanded and became independent states until a relative of napoleon took over France and declared war on Prussia and all the states got scared and with help of a man named oto von Bismarck (sorry if I butchered the name) anyways they unified as Germany give it a little wile Bismarck is dying and and tells Willem the second that his policies would start a massive war and he was right
Sorry for not the best grammar
Correction to myself all the states ware kindly independent kindly like the holy Roman empire but were slowly integrated
*INTENSE SPACEBAR SOUNDS*
as a canadian my self the yakes never annexed canada becase they tryed and absalotly failed
Us Canadians defended against them, Canadian militias were even there when we burned the white house.
The hell is a yake? Maybe we shoulda taken you over to teach you to spell.
@@jwally1434 Canadians militias had little part in actually defeating the Americans until the British came. They were mostly decimated by US forces. It was the veterans from the Peninsular War which ultimately defeated and kicked the US out, and even then, it's questionable to call the US the aggressor party due to the UK's...policies.
Basically, it's complicated. And not at all what Canadian schools boil it down to.
Canada didn’t exist. Americans sailed up to York, stormed the capital, and won the battle which resulted in American victory, Canadatard.
Saludos desde mi Españita 😎👊
Que es España? Un Estado de México?
@@aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *Se cabrea*
@@FACM. tienes que poner *
@@albertoromerolinan6088 Eso he hecho.
Saludos de la Capitania General de Chile 😎👊
TommyKay EU IV when
Waldseemüller Names america under Amerigo vespucci after recognising it as the new world when christopher columbus thought that america was india.
21:00 I used to play a pirate game called Tortuga 🏴☠️ it was da bomb
Tommy, the ancient Romans stoled the secret to produce silk (yeah, it comes from an insect, 🤣) from the chinese, the bizantines kept producing but only in a smaller scale that never supllyied the domestic demand in Europe.
And spices, of course, because of the climate they cannot plant in Europe, however both turks and venetians tried to cultivate something in their Mediterranean islands, but also in a much smaller scale.
Tommy should react to Extra Credits' Bismarck series?
We celebrate thanksgiving because we're based
but really thanksgiving is to celebrate a 50 year period of peace between the pilgrims and the natives
Cá nada is also portuguese for " nothing here"
Theres a guy from russia that has a channel he goes all around the ww2 battle fields just digging up weapons, mortars, he finds bodies of soviet n german soldiers too its crazy how much shit he finds honestly but at the sametime its cool
7:12 pain
btw Thanksgiving is not about the Natives it is About the first Harvest in America. I believe that Canada has Thanksgiving on the Second Monday of October but America it is the Fourth Thursday of November
Tommy should watch the history Channel "history matters" if he's interested about German history during the 18th and 19th centuries
17:00 a german knows nothing about Bismarck...
Also there is a game about this time Victoria2 and victoria3 is coming out
The problem is. German schools dont teach things about Bismarck because the government fears a rise of patriotism or some shit
@@moritz7613 That is silly, it reminds me to my country that we barely talk about the Spanish Empire, we practically only see above the kings of those 3 centuries and we went so quickly from the Reconquest to the Napoleonic wars when the Empire began to collapse.
@@condedooku9750 in history from class 3 to 11 you basicly only lern stuff about nazi germany and how bad it was and after that most the students are done with school anyway. after that you barely touch other history periods.
@@moritz7613 Well, the same in Spain, after mentioning the pre-Roman tribes and speaking far above the conquest of Rome to mention the beautiful aqueducts that we have, we take a leap to the conquest of the Muslims of the peninsula without practically mentioning anything of the Visigoth kingdoms, then without talking about any battle or phase of the Reconquest we went to the end of the Reconquest to say "we discovered America with the help of Colon who remembered that it was Italian (lie) we brought the potato to Europe and the kings of that time They were X to X, then there was a change of dynasty that we are not going to explain either and from there we already reached the French Revolution, Napoleon to the invasion of Spain, the independence of the colonies in America and now we are going to go into details for tell you the painful history of Spain in the 19th and 20th centuries :D ", basically you do not find out anything, I never knew before investigating on my own that: The Netherlands, southern Italy, Athens, various cities more from North Africa, Portugal and its colonial Empire, the Philippines, etc ... They were Spanish territories, in any case if they mention something from this period of time it is: The Invincible Army, the Inquisition and how bad we were with Native Americans, and that's ALL, the educational system in Spain sucks and that's partly because we still believe the Spanish Black Legend:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_legend_(Spain)
In Poland we go from mesopotamia to the 20th century chronologically more or less covering everything (edit) with a heavy focus on Poland and surrounding areas of course. There is like 2/3 lessons on east asian in each grade and other continets from time to time
We celebrate Thanksgiving as an excuse for a holiday where we eat and meet family Dommy not so much that we care about the actual history behind it
Also the history of it is an isolate alliance between settlers and an Indian tribe we armed to help kill a centuries long enemy
Stop trying to make it out to be like it’s a celebration of “genocide”. Most of them died from disease and and ones who survived and were smart signed treaties with the U.S
Just how France, Spain and Britain have away their territories because they recognized the inevitable rise of America. Mexico didn’t learn this lesson along with some tribes however
14:10 The war o 1812 was the American version of "We won against the Bri'ish"
and Canadian Version of "We won against the Muricans"
But UK doesn't even Know about the war, because it was a side show of the Napoleonic wars.
Tommy will learn about US Mexico in Vicky 3
nice ending
Tommy should watch kraut’s video about mexico
Somebody tell Tommy to try out Victoria 2 with HFM
So as a German you have no clue about this year that 150 years ago Bismarck unified Germany ? "The real unifacation tbh 😉"
It's traditionally seen as a stalemate, but why? On paper it looks like a textbook British victory.
The Americans had two war aims. Stop the impressment of sailors, and secondly to invade British North America (Canada). It failed on both fronts, and DC was burnt to the ground. The US were the country to declare war as well, therefore the British were fighting on the whole on the defensive, with no aim to retake a country that was increasingly a valuable trading partner.
Now, for the British this was a sideshow to the wider Napoleonic Wars, however it still puzzles me why this is seen as a stalemate as the American achieved none of their war aims? Perhaps the most long lasting effect was the British didn't attack the US again, but that seems more based on trade and economics than military might (at least until post Civil War when the US began their rise to superpower status).
Perhaps I'm missing something? To me the pro-American view seems based on Andrew Jackson's victory after the war was already over.
Canada come from kanada or something similar, the word meant small town
Could you say that the 13 colonies uprising is a civil war?
I don't mean this as obnoxiously as it may come across, but why doesn't Tommy put the screen with the chat on it next to the screen with the video on it, instead of 90 degrees away from it? That seems obvious, and there appears to be plenty of room on the desk, so I'm wondering if there's some compelling reason that he hasn't done that.
Funnily enough, England had just come out of the Wars of the Rose only 7 years before Columbus' voyage
@Jayden Dan Dominquez Henry VII (Henry VIII's dad) became king at the end of the wars of the roses. He couldn't do much colonising and exploration because the country was in ruins. English colonisation only properly started with Elizabeth I
America is not named after Amerigo Vespucci. Lands were named after Monarchs or their discoverers. Lands named after discoverers always used their last name. Like Columbia, after Columbus. There are no exceptions to this rule. Richard Amerike funded the first English expedition to north america in 1497, and it was usual to name the land after the person who paid for it (Falkland Islands are named after the Earl of Falkland). Vespucci gets the credit only because of the lobbying of the italian-american community.
It's 2 am in Việt Nam now
Aral Sea was so beautiful back then :(
Iam proud because my country started it all caralho
At first I thought this was part 2 of mega campaign 😥
20:20, yes… yes…
I know this is old now, but here's a little American insight:
The reason we support Thanksgiving Day is because for one thing, literally every colony and every camp treated the Indians/Natives differently. The tribes and colonists who started the "Thanksgiving day" story got along very very well at first. They exchanged goods and helped each other and got along early on. It wasn't until more and more immigrants kept coming that it was just impossible to hold back the expansion of more immigrants who each naturally wanted their own space and so kept pushing out into the frontier where, let's be very clear: there were hardly any native people. People have a misconception that native Americans were just super widely populated throughout America but the reality is that they mostly lived in small pockets. There was actually plenty of land for everyone but...territorial dispute and distrust (because literally every culture and nation hated or distrusted each other back then...one only needs to look at how Europe was locked in constant war for like 1000 years and including during the time America was colonized to know that).
The reality is that native tribes each responded to the arrival of immigrants in various ways. Some of them were helpful and kind and each group generally tried to understand and respect each other. They would often have celebrations/feasts together as diplomatic symbols of peace and would exchange goods and so on. Some even married consensually and had children, most notably John Rolfe and Pocahontas who are something like American folk tales at this point. But as expected, tensions got worse and worse as more Europeans flocked to the New World because they were either sent their against their will ("indentured servants") or because they were fleeing war, persecution for their religious beliefs (which they could often be jailed or executed for depending on which country or which religion they followed). Given how bad poverty and inequality was in Europe at the time, many people decided they would come to the New World to make a better life and seeing as most land was either owned by hugely powerful companies and often monarchies in Europe, it was very expensive if not impossible to own land in Europe. Conversely, in the New World, you were often offered your own plot of land if you signed up to be an indentured servant or to work for some period of time. So...as more and more people came to make a better life for themselves...they needed more and more land. And...given that so many people came for different reasons with different ideas, political beliefs, and other "outsider" identities, they didn't really all agree with one another and so either ignored previous treaties and agreements with native tribes or had to get away from one another because they didn't get along. Similarly, some native tribes were actually not just kind and helpful, some were brutal and cruel. There are many massacres of immigrant/colonists villages you can look up in which native warriors would raid the village burning it to the ground and murdering men, women, AND children and would commonly take their scalps as signs that they had killed them.
The relationship between native tribes and European immigrants was pretty complex actually. The only reason we don't see native tribes as war criminals or genocidal is only because the Europeans won, not because the native tribes didn't want to. In other words, many native tribes in America were just as war hungry and as the Europeans came to the New World, were already in the process of conquering or subjugating other nearby tribes. The "Powhatan Confederation" for example, is probably the most obvious example of a group of native tribes under one banner which would slaughter tribes which would not join them. The sort of simple idea of natives being generous and sweet to Europeans and then Europeans turning around and stabbing them in the back just isn't true. Maybe it's true in some cases, but generally, it was a case of making agreements, then some idiot either stealing or murdering someone from the opposing culture, then the other side overreacting and seeing it as a sign of war, then butchering a village or two and then it repeats. Then another peace deal, a few years of peace and friendliness and help to each other, and then the same thing, another scandal or a change in leadership on one side who doesn't want to be friendly and so forth. This just kept repeating until more and more Europeans came over and it got so large that leaders of the colonies could not stop people from pushing further West even though many people were either arrested or jailed or sometimes even executed if they tried to push further West. And as years went on, it was impossible to stop. They couldn't stop the boats nor would it seem moral or wise to considering what most people were fleeing Europe from and considering the incoming immigrants had just as much right to live in the colony as current colonists. And as the colonies became "America", then the population of European to natives was far larger. Some native tribes actually integrated into European lifestyles, technology, and society. There are many such people in American life today who have Cherokee heritage for instance, who are maybe mostly white European genetically, but who nonetheless are native even if they look "white" to you or me.
It isn't until Europeans vastly outnumber the natives (many of whom died of smallpox by this point) that things become ACTUALLY brutal and very sad. It's at this point when the U.S. is still expanding West and Presidents like Thomas Jefferson are trying to find a solution to the conflicts between different native tribes and the now established United States. They were clearly cultures that could not live next to one another. One perfect example of why that was the case...was the Americans of this time were largely farmers whereas the native peoples still used hunter-gatherer farming techniques. Most notably, they would do MASSIVE forest fires to push animals into their hunting grounds to make it easier for them to hunt them (most cultures did this at some point in history). You can see how this is incompatible with a non-nomadic, stationary lifestyle in which you build farms and villages to last. Neither group of people could live next to one another and none of those Europeans were going home and the native tribes were NOT going to stop burning bushes/trees either. Different US governors of States and various US Presidents often held different ideas about how to fix the problem between the two civilizations but often had the effect of making matters worse because each new leader would often have different ideas. Thus, there was no reliability or stability in what to expect. One leader might say that you are free to expand West of some certain mountain range while another might say that doing so is against the law. This is probably when fighting between US citizens and native tribes got the worst for natives because at this point, like I said, Americans vastly outnumbered natives. So this is when the "Reservation" system was created. The idea with it was good but in practice, not so much. What the system did was attempt to create land for native tribes to legally own and be respected by the US government that was large enough for each tribe to easily live on. That way American citizens could legally be punished for treading on or taking that land. What was good about this would be that the native tribes were now guaranteed land that could not be taken and it would keep the cultures apart...so that hopefully they could live together in relative peace without constant mutual massacres. But what ended up happening is that lots of the Reservations were in places that the native tribes did not view as their native lands and were often placed further away from the lands they viewed as their homelands. So...this lead to more fighting among some tribes and of course, some tribes wholly rejected the idea. Much of the worst of this ended up occurring in Florida I would say and this is what led directly to the event/events known as the "Trail of Tears". Essentially, it all culminated with various Reservations being created FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR to the West in North America where the US Government knew there were no other tribes or, where there certainly were no European-culture Americans to clash with. As you can imagine, many of these tribes didn't want to go but many accept the deal as well and so marched across various US territories. And the biggest slap in the face of course, is that once many tribes got to their new lands...other native tribes who were "native" to those lands saw them as invaders and tried to kill them because...once again, native Americans are just as human as all of us, equally capable of sweetness as brutality.
In any case, I just wanted to clear up the idea that Americans were somehow uniquely brutal to native tribes. As far as I recall, the Spanish might have the trophy for worst colonizers, haha. So, in short, what Thanksgiving Day means to most Americans is first and foremost just a day to show thankfulness to our neighbors, friends, family and so on. But it's also a day in which we remember that even in difficult times, as evidenced by the immigrants and the natives, it is POSSIBLE to show humanity to someone incredibly foreign to you. It's not a day to say "Hey! We were so great to the native tribes!".
About the turkey. I am russian, but i think that they celebrate the victory against natives, but i'm not sure at all.
12:19 Nos mères sont de grands pulls.
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The video completely missed the Louisana Purchase.
Everyone talks about how the British took Washington DC in 1814, but forgets that Murica burned down York (modern day Toronto) in 1813
Yea thats true. I guess the burning of washington was probably revenge. Then america got revenge right after at baltimore too lol.
Because that's not as big of a deal symbolically and militarily.
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and how to make silk was a secret
26:42 i would look at the Franco Prussian war for the answer your looking for
fun fat eu could have been using french to speak but a french person in america said yes smto make the paper in english
6:23 Not really proven, but probable that it was named after him. We dont actually know
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The war of 1812 USA almost lost and got lucky and managed to get a white peace.
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my 63 year old dad watches your content apparantly
"Omfg!!!! W-we shouwd cancew cowombus day!!! H-he was such a h-howwibwe pewson and k-kiwwed teh nyatives!!!"
@@ihaveadream3321 Confederate is based
@Jayden Dan Dominquez nazi not exist when CSA did
@Jayden Dan Dominquez Nazi Germany was fucking disgusting and cringe.
Confederates have standards.
@Jayden Dan Dominquez The possibility of the CSA winning would've been much higher if that damn messager did his job and didn't drop Special Order 191 and discovered by the Union.
@Jayden Dan Dominquez :(
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Did tommy diss Steven crowder?
Tommy turned 30 ten years ago!!! He's such an old boomer!!!!!
I like how tommy points out of france won the 7 years war that we would all be speaking French. Like that could ever happen the colonies of France were not very populated other then mabye New France/Quebec but other then that the vast majority of Louisiana was unpopulated where as the British had a massive amount of colonists in north america compared to the French. It would have resulted in France keeping their land. They would have lost them in the Napoleonic wars unless France had a sizable navy to counter Britain even then by the time Napoleon was done in Europe he would have to ship troops all the way to North America to ether land in the 13 colonies or in the saint Lawrence River. Sorry I'm a bit of a ass hat but still.
columbus was probably portuguese, sailors had the habit of naming new found lands the same name where they were born and he landed first in Cuba and theres a place in Portugal named Cuba.
the portuguese king refused columbus because he probably already knew about america way before the other europeans and was trying to keep it a secret from the spanish wich where the rivals of the portuguese
In Portugal we're thaught that Columbus is genoese, also I don't think cuba is a portuguese word, it's much more spanish/italian sounding and it's not a word in the portuguese language
@@ap6480 im portuguese we are not thaught that.
@@ap6480 theres literally a place in Alentejo called Cuba
@@ap6480 Alentejo is in Portugal btw
23:34 if the south had won in the civil war lincoln would have been seen as a dictator and would immediadely been deposed
the presidents who were the best are the ones who limited the governments size
Tactically, the war of 1812 was a British victory because they won more battles and caused more devastation, but strategically, it could be a US victory because the embargo was lifted, territory remained in US control, and it would be the last time Britain would seek to reclaim the colonies.
Britain never wanted to retake any US territory... Their only goal was to defend Canada from an attempted invasion which they did. The American narrative that this was their second war for independence is so incorrect.
We don’t talk about the natives in Canada, we weren’t nice back then
If France was the world language, French wouldn’t be as romanticized.