Growing Shiitake Mushrooms - In depth on Colonizing Shiitake Blocks
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- Опубликовано: 3 янв 2021
- In this video i attempt to go in depth on colonizing Shiitake blocks. Shiitake can be brutal to fully get the hang of and you never fully have them under control. Hopefully, this video will help broaden your knowledge of what makes good Shiitake blocks....Colonization.
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I felt like this was Shiitake bootcamp! T.R... beyond just being the man you're such an inspiration. Thank you for all the wisdom you drop. Lots of love for ya, bro.
I have to say, I've been trying to grow shiitake mushrooms for the last year. The knowledge I've got from this video has increased my yield so much I don't know how to thankyou. Much love brother!
Thank you i enjoyed your video ,we commercially grow shiitake , mainly 3782 and have our cycles down for every week , .We also have found a 4 week rotation of blocks after 1st flush for a second fruiting which we initiate after soak and then put in separate fruiting room , This has been valuable addition to our production . once again thanks ,
Awesome video! I really liked seeing the process stage by stage
Thank you for sharing your experience and insights. Very helpful!
Glad you’re making videos again, great interview on mycowizards too!
Thank you good sir. Wealth of information and it’s so appreciated. Also thank you for putting in all the work of being a creator of content.
Very well! Thanks for your hip pocket class, I appreciate your information and your time! Will be attempting to grow these soon.
No problem. Attempting to grow them is the only thing I've ever done.
Excellent video TR. Thank You! You ROCK.
Thank you for this detailed shiitake review.
Well said. I enjoyed learning. I want to learn more.😍
Awesome, excellent info. Thank You !!
you are an excellent teacher
Thanks for the great video. I'm totally new to mushroom growing in general.
A wealth of knowledge
Wonderful video! I love growing them because of all the different stages. I hope you will also do this for the Grifola frondosa.
Thanks for the info. Your videos are straight forward and to the point. I felt like the twenty minutes flew by with the wealth of knowledge being presented. Temping the blocks is something you don't hear from other growers.
Thanks, man! I appreciate the encouraging words.
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 your welcome. I
Excellent presentation
Great insights brother
This man is in sync with his blocks. These are looking very healthy. I'd buy one of these any day. A little tip what i found: do not fondle your cultures at all helps them a lot. Do not move cultures around like that. Just inocculate and LET THEM SIT. Maybe check for contamination once every 5 days if possible without touching and you'll see they will be a lot happier. They really don't like to be fondled and shaken too much. Just because it looks healthy doesn't mean you should shake it around and shine bright lights on them like that. The less you move mycelium the happier it is. Just let it go. Don't be a control freak. Once you reach the level of proffessionalism this guy has just stop touching the cultures and you'll be the king of mushrooms. First find out what substrate, temp, humidity your strain likes best. Once you have that down: stop touching them so much and boom.
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Great video ! Thank You
Awesome video, thanks!
Thanks man, respect!
Great video!
First of all I just like to reiterate what most everyone else has said "you are the man!" That was an absolutely awesome video a little intense but awesome. I'm in my first go round of ever trying shiitake in blocks. I have shitaki in logs but not grown yet in blocks. Your detailed week by week explanation took some of the worry out of my brain, I know shiitake can take a while and it seems like I wanna speed things up or worry about what I'm seeing but you made it seem perfect. I wish I could drop you a picture because I didn't use fresh wood chips or sawdust & bran. I made a concoction of straw, oak pellets, wood pellets, a little bit of alfalfa pellets, coffee grinds & gypsum. The only question I would have for you is do you have a set PH that you start off with? Do you think that might have something to do with the variations and how the blocks run in the same strain?
Ohh that's great thanks for that 😀
Do you still process your fresh sawdust or do you use them straight? :) Thanks for this! Really good video!!
Thanks man keep the content coming! what's up with the how-to hydrate video coming up?
Thanks for sharing TR! On the comparison between pellet and fresh sawdust blocks: did you use a batch mixer on the pellets or was it dry bagged? Curious if the colonization difference has to do with aeration of substrate from looser sawdust. If it was dry bagged pellets that would make sense
I grew shiitake at home years ago. Made my little blocks in coffee cans and submerged them under water in the refrigerator over night when they were ready to fruit. I had some good luck and it was really fun. Would like to grow them again some day. I used pellets broken back down to saw dust and I think bran. My gain spawn was straight popcorn.
Thank you for your time and sharing your experience. As far as using bran, do you have a recommendation on alternatives for those of us who cannot consume gluten? I’ve had difficulty finding good info regarding this.
Hi , very good video, a lot of info. I have a question about the block,, when i put the block in the growing room, do i have to take it out of the bag or can i keep it in the bag and just cut a slot so the mushroom will grow out of the slot? Thank you. Martin
Great information on Shiitake. Can you clarify what strain you were using?
I think how easy it is to grow shiitake comes down to how good the culture is. I used to say shiitake was easy too. I grew them PF Tek, then inoculating spawn bags, then grain spawn to bags. They grew amazingly well, in 5-6 grows I never had a failure. Then I lost my culture to contam. Since that time I have tried dozens of other cultures and NONE have ever been nearly as easy to grow.
Hey TR, great and helpful video
Based on your experience, how many flushes do you recommend that we take from the shiitake blocks before we send it to the compost pit.
most people nowadays do one.
Dude my girlfriend loves you guys and now I can see why.
Hi. Just a quick qestion. Do I have to slit the bags to give the blocks some air to get them brown? Will it help? They are 2 months old and still mostly white with a lot of popcorn.
Can you start from agar? And if so, is there a specific recipe for the agar, and a temp to keep them at? I keep getting a single tiny pin growing on the plate, and barely any mycelium.
Nice video man, such good material. I never get such dense popcorning as you showed in your blocks, i am guessing thats a temp problem? I cant rly control temps in my incubation Room .
if you can't control temps during any stage of mushroom cultivation you will always have problems.
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 indeed, unfortunately. Thanks man, you trully are an inspiration.
hey, how do shiitake grain should look like? Thick white (my grain achieve it ~ 5 weeks) or transparent like Lion's mane (~ 3 weeks). What do you prefer? Thanks!
Shiitake are super easy to grow when you buy blocks from a pro, lol. Thanks for all the videos. Any plans for doing a Maitake video?
I've been running trials every week. I'll make a video when i feel i can speak confidently about them.
Waiting for that video. Have customers wanting them but I have never been successful in getting them to fruit.
Hi TR thank you for inspiring my favorite hobby can you tell me what type of pellets that you use? In my country Portugal i ONLY have pine..
I use oak sawdust and soybean hulls
Which shiitake strain is best for lowering cholesterol? My mom has high cholesterol and I want to grow some for her so it can help her with her health🙏
Great tutorial, I have one question I haven’t been able to find an answer for anywhere yet and thats in regards to light requirements? I’ve colonized my shiitake blocks in the dark for 10 days or so until fully colonized then from there I put them in an incubation chamber on a 12/12 light cycle, is this alright? Or should they be exposed to minimal light until they’re ready to fruit? Thank you.
Mushrooms don't have chlorophyll, they don't need light other than to give a direction of growth
Where do you buy your Bran? it was a very nice video thank you for the information. Happy new year. I have another question. I bought a 25 pound bag of shiitake and I immediately put it into the refrigerator I was wondering if I open the bag and put the Browning substrate and devide it into several more bags of sawdust pellets would it continue to grow?
You want to look for a wheat mill. One of the byproducts of milling wheat is bran.
Well you’re my hero, I was a airline pilot for 28 years, now I’m retired, I am so interested your hobby and business, and I hope you sleep good at night because the information you’re giving has inspired 1000 Of people. bro bravo keep it up.
I appreciate the kind words.
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Guess I got lucky because my first agar dish and block colonized.i got tissue from a local asian market.and made my block with snake aspen bedding some fine sawdust and wheat bran.
I think I’m going to struggle to grow these , I have shiitake mycelium in Petrie dishes growing atm and could get them going on grain spawn I think but after that I think I’m done , I done have humidifier and grow rooms cause I’m a home grower , temperatures vary here is Australia , winter here almost spring but still weather temps are all over the place , I’ll give it a go but I don’t have any high hopes for these.
I grow shiitake on oak logs outside. Process is quite easy, but they fruit only in spring and autumn. And not many of mushrooms.
Hello great information, I watched it 3 times jotting down notes. Got question for you. I can get as much green cut ash, oak, sycamore and cottonwood saw dust as I can haul away. I've got 3 questions. Is that mix suitable for shiitake? Would a lumber moisture meter give me accurate content for making blocks? Would you recommend fresh cut or aged a while?
I've never used ash or sycamore, but i would assume they would work. Not sure if a lumber moisture meter would work or not. Your last question is to complex to answer view text because there are pluses and minuses to both. I've used straight from mill sawdust for 100s of thousands of blocks, I've also used aged. They both work, but like i mentioned, it's just to much info to cover here in the detail it should be.
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 That's great info, I'll be trying few test blocks in coming weeks. Best way find out is try it. I sort of figured sawdust age question be more complicated. I'm not quiet ready for transition to farming. Just growing with higher yields and success rates. Your videos sure have been straight forward helpful insights. Many thanks.
Hello, can anybody pls tell how much Fresh Shiitake mushroom is required to prepare 1 kg dry mushroom ?
I'd love to buy your mushroom blocks! How do I place an order? Thanks!
Hey, I am struggling to grow shiitake. If you can help me with that, everything I did like completely colonized but I am unable to get good pinning and fruits.
When do you take the blocks out of the bags
when you move the racks to the cooler temp, after colinization, how long to leave them in the 50's... between week 2-3 or..? you said until they're ready to poppcorn... maybe rough time frame?
thanks TJ for any and all help. Taking close notes and hopefully will be able to stop in and meet you one day!! Show me state Veteran getting into mushrooms, in Romania at the moment :)
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Too Dry can cause contamination - makes sense.... If it gets too hot, probability of contamination goes through the roof. - OK - fascinating. Never heard that popcorn term.
do shiitake need light while colonicing (or does ist effect it)? my impression is that it supports popcorning - but not shure. thx man!
I've seen light effect browning, but not exactly sure how it effects overall growth
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 during colonisation you should be able to leave them in dim light or even complete dark. If they colonize in dark and you introduce more light for fruiting they fruit better potentially. Looking at the light in the video is definately too bright for my taste especially for colonizing. Look how they live in nature: they colonize and once they have colonized the area the mycel will expose itself to surfaces simply because it has colonized everything in that area. Then it fruits. So mycel really grow in the dark in their natural habitat while the fruit grows in dim light in the shade on the floor of the forest. Rarely do mushrooms like to expose themselves to direct sunlight in nature (except species that grow in open fields maybe). Woodlovers usually should respond best to conditions resembling a forest floor biome.
how much does the sawdust wood variety play into your experiments? hardwood, softwoods etc. loved the video!
I've grown on oak, oak pellets, hardwood pellets, and eucalyptus. They all have differences but all can produce good yields.
Arnt there fungicidal components in Eukalyptus?Obviously not ,but that seems to be a matter to consider for some farmers regarding other species of wood.Whats your take on that? Thumbs up from germany.
@@thorlivingstone6873 There are fungicidal properties in all trees. They definitely grow differently on eucalyptus but you still get good yields.
@@thorlivingstone6873 I've heard that the process of pellet manufacture involves heat treatment which destroys or removes the oil and tannin, supposedly making even pine pellets safe for oyster mushroom cultivation.
what kind of C02 levels are in your incubation room?
How do you humidify your grow rooms? Also, do you soak your grain for spawn? And do you have any classes coming up? Thanks
T.R. Has a video about humidity for your shiitake fruiting.
With shiitake, do you constantly have to go back to multi spore testing, then Clone from the most productive and transfer to substrate at T2? Or can you repeatedly pull from a master slant with consistent results from the same monoculture? Thanks for all the help TR!
I've never once used spores. I keep masters and expand. Some of my cultures are >T30. As long as it's doing good I don't often go back to masters.
Yup, just when I thought I had it down, I lost a whole run.
Do you have a light cycle in the colonization rooms? Lights always off? Thanks!
i turn the lights on at some point, then turn them off later. that's about as precise as i get.
Take a shot everytime he says 3790! lol Great video, thank you!
do you break them up during colonization?
Thanks. Can you do a fruiting one now?
Cheers
Check my other videos. I've done multiple shiitake fruiting videos.
Hey! Do you notice a difference in colonization (speed, ex.) using more spawn? And Yields?
I use 1 6lb bag of spawn for 20 10lb blocks. I've used multiple different rates and haven't seen much of a difference.
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 Great! Thats the same proportion and I dont´t see any difference, too! Thanks
@@Gictio is my math correct ? that's 3% spawn rate ?
The 20% bran is by dry weight of the sawdust/ pellets correct?
Yep
how much temperatur we need to growing shitake
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Mycelium Emporium claims to sell a commercial strain of Shiitake culture that can grow on substrates made from straw and Coniferous sawdust. What are your thoughts? You suppose it could be worth it?
I think it would be worth trying it out.
I want to get into growing mushrooms if psilocybin booms in states that legalize it. Its going to bring more room into the market, and I see it as my opening. When cash crops get legalized, the boom pulls in many growers, leaving a gap in related farming. In fact, states often have to pass laws to stop sell volume from dropping in normal food crops, because the buy volume does not change.
What kind of grain do you use for initial colonization?
For shiitake its a blend of wheat, millet, and sawdust.
I am a first time cultivator, my first 3 blocks made on Jan 21th 2020 were easy to colonize (they will be ready to fruit in a few days from today)
I've also made 4 more blocks on March 13th 2021 & will be making 4 or 8 more blocks in the next few days because they have been the most reliable mushroom I have grown so far. this strain of Shiitake originally came from a store bought mushroom clone that I paid $0.55 for.
I cloned it on agar, turned it into a 600ml jar of liquid culture.
i currently have about 20 strains of mushrooms, mostly from cloning wild or store bought mushrooms.
I will continue to cultivate Shiitake due to the ease of cultivating (I hope I do not have any of the problems that you have had in the past)
i live in a small apartment in the big city, i get shitty fresh air flow & its working out very well for me.
i'll be uploading a vid to my channel soon as they stop testing the fire alarms.
I'm glad the first 7 shiitake blocks you have grown were easy.
Can u inject shiitake spore right into the 10lb blocks or do u have to use grain spawn ???
I have the same question...I suspect that the grains are much better at getting things going since they are already growing on a strong nutrient source.
Could you, yes, but I'm not sure why anyone would want to use spores.
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 not spores, mycelium via liquid culture. Let's call it direct injection lol
@@jondavies7042 in theory yes but it's extremely difficult
Thanks for that. Stock with the tried and true unless you are in an experimental mindset!
how about moisture . How much water are you working with ?
I use between 57.5-60%
Awesome. Thanks for the reply . Keep up the great content.
What about humidity please
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No I think it was 3790.
Nah, it was 3790.
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Must have used to much supplement. I have trouble with premature fruiting.
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Let me share a little secret with you that makes all my shiitake colonization really pop. I put a slice of fried bologna in with the substrate. Works every time. ;)
mmmmmm fried bologna. what organism on earth wouldn't be happy eating that.
Great video, I just wish he wasn't yelling the whole time.....
It's a sign of old age, and you probably live in a library.
@@john-smith. nope. I just prefer people to speak and not yell. But good way to try and throw insults.
he's too angry for no reason
What about humidity please
All mushrooms need very much humidity
@@66bigbuds thanks. What percent during all three stages please
There are only 2 stages , incubation and fruiting
No humidity is required during incubation
For fruiting , you need to keep humidity between 80 and 90 percentage and reduce it a day before harvest to 60-70
@@cobrandrewg9995 ok thanks bro