As a big fan of Jason's, from SNL to Ted Lasso, it is heartbreaking to see him digest that and try to not break on camera. You could tell it hurt him terribly. He can rest easy, though, knowing that he is carrying on the Sudeikis name and providing an outstanding legacy to his children, grandchildren and on.
So true. I never knew, I think my grandpa knew and never told us that his mothers first children were twin girls who died at 6 months, a week apart from each other, of tuberculosis. Me and my sister were twins and he was so proud of us as babies. Everyone knew who we were because he had us with him everywhere and told everyone who we were and that we were HIS twins lol. Also found out that up to the 1900’s, one side of my family (French) married each other for about 200 years before. Cousins, sisters and brothers marrying each other 🤮 and on the other we were made to believe we were German when really we are Ukrainian from the Chortitza Mennonite Colony (which were German speaking but not german) 😂 the things you find out can be sad and surprising
I think this is exactly right, and wanted to say so. She basically saved her children from additional, potentially generational, trauma. And Jason owes some part of where and who he is to that choice by his grandmother. Very courageous to attempt to break the trauma chain.
I never met my grandfather because he passed before I was born. Everyone always spoke highly of him but come to find out, he was a veteran with severe ptsd that was very violent towards his family. He had 8 daughters, and wanted sons instead. After each birth, he would take it out on his kids and wife. By the end of his life, he was a sweet man who loved his daughters dearly, he truly regretted his actions because no one loved him more than his daughters. He ended up having a son, but my uncle was never as strong as he hoped he would. But in his elderly years, his girls were really all he had.
I didn't meet my paternal grandparents, my grandfather also suffered from what we now know as PTSD, sadly he took his own life in 1956. His wife, my Grandmother, was apparently a very controlling woman but she too passed away before I was born. Interestingly 3 years after her death, my parents married each other and were devoted to each other.... Dad had his own scars and never spoke about his parents, we only found out about my Grandfather's passing years after Dad passed away...
I grew up in Chicago's Back o' the Yards in the late '50s & early '60s just blocks away from that corner. As can be seen, it is still a rough neighborhood to this day. English is a second language in most homes, still. Ancestry has helped me discover that my father's paternal and maternal grandfathers were both transported from Ireland as furloughed prisoners (1880s Rent Strike evictions) to work in the Union Stockyards under contract to the packers with their wives and children following on steamships up to two years later in the 1890s. Once reunited, both families lived next door to one another on 50th & Racine where my grandfather met my grandmother.
@Nicky L As I understand it they were sentenced to hard labor for participating in "rent rebellion". My grandfather's charges included "taking an oath". They were press-ganged into accepting parole and passage to America. Wives and children then petitioned for steamship tickets through relief agencies and charities, sometimes fronts for Fenian and other Republican Irish groups
So many people suffer with so many demons and sometimes those demons can just consume one's life to the point where they cannot function in society. It is truly a sad story yet, a story that a lot of us experience in one way or another. Guidance and blessings to you and your family Mr Sufdeikis
Curious to know: did his gf serve in WWII? Is it possible he was "shell shocked" and (tho not an excuse, just a way of understanding) a possible reason for his failure as a father & husband?
I wondered the same. I caught a glimpse of a document that I believe said he had served but was discharged or had deserted. Would be interesting to confirm and know why. Who knows what he saw or went through....
I took it that his grandfather found a way out of going to the war. I think they would have mentioned his service, instead of talking about his laziness, had he gone overseas.
Check the history of Lithuania and you’ll see that geographically it’s between Poland and Russia. I imagine historically, it was a hard place to exist-lots of invasions over time.😞
I really like Jason's response to what he found out. On a parallel note, there are multiple videos where Norm Macdonald - referring to the sins or wrongs made by Roseanne and Louis CK - said, and I paraphrase, "Your heart can break for more than one person at the same time. You can feel sorry for the victims, but you can feel sorry for the person that committed the wrong too. Sure, the victim got worse... WAY worse. But the person that committed the wrong has to face consequences ALSO." I have not doubt that there are those whose actions simply cannot be chalked up to "Well, it's all they knew." However, for the vast majority of folks who do wrong to others, they are just exhibiting, by word and action, the only thing they know, based on their upbringing. In that context, they themselves were victims first, and consequently, they victimized others just as they had been victimized. To put it another way, "Hurt people... HURT people and healed people... HEAL people." I believe Norm understood that "cause and effect" dynamic really, really well and based on Jason's reaction here, I'd say Jason understands it too. Forgiveness is more important than vindication.
Alcoholism is a terrible illness and wrecks many families and the irony when you consider Jason's uncle played everyone's favorite bar fly on cheers..but it's nothing to laugh at at is so sad..
@@Marcel_Audubon I honestly thought he was lousy but I didn't like Frasier or Diane or Rebecca and I liked cliff and Carla sam was ok he reminded me of Hawkeye Peirce if he was a bartender..lol
It was surreal to follow this one as my in-laws only lived a couple blocks over from them so they probably knew him or of him and their great uncle died a similar death a year earlier and a few blocks over, dying of exposure sleeping in the park with a head injury and alcoholic 😕
Interesting stuff. It would be nice if the voice over guy sounded a bit more compassionate. Someone cheerfully saying a man had deserted his family is jarring.
At the end of the day addiction is a disease - and I'm certain that wasnt understood at all back then. It's so sad to think about all the lives of all those generations past who didn't have any access or societal tolerance for addiction resources.
Rich can be defined in many ways. I think just maybe your ancestor defined it as family. And when you lose your whole family, what else really matters? Does your minimum wage job matter? When you can't see your children? I mean I can't think of a harder thing to live through then watching your children be taken away because you're the same person you've always been, but because you couldn't magically adapt and overcome to the situation now you don't get to see your kids. I can guarantee you one thing your ancestor tried, and in the eyes of another ancestor that was not enough... and then on top of that you don't get to see your kids anymore. Meanwhile any job you do get they're Takin have your money. If you ask me no wonder he drank himself to death.
Right??! I saw moments where he seemed emotional, but covered over it with humor or physical movement. Otherwise, yes - that was not by any means emotional in the conventional sense.
@@whatoncewas8480 Watch Ted Lasso when he signed his divorce papers. You'll see more pain and emotion in his eyes alone than most actors in their whole body. That's what I saw in this piece also.
Some people can only recognize emotional distress when it's being broadcast externally-- tears, trembling voice and limbs. Others are able to sense it from the most subtle indications-- tightening around the eyes, flattened voice, careful/stilted movements. An individual can be screaming internally and there appear to be such minute physical evidence of their distress as to almost be nonexistent, yet a sensitive human can easily pick up on that individual's inner turmoil. Jason was in deep distress here. He wasn't physically pantomiming that distress as a means of garnering attention and/or sympathy. This is why the emotional distress of many men gets ignored. The signals are often misunderstood or not even noticed. I hope Jason was able to spend some time with a loved one afterwards, someone who would be able to just sit with him or provide a soothing backrub or much needed hug.
Maybe his grandfather had been mentally ill. Plagued with addiction. Remember there were no medication at that time, no studies like now. No rehab. No PTSD diagnosis. Have mercy.
No comments? Well? I do my family's genealogy and I never find detail documents like this. I only find census, birth, death, marriage, baptism or some school and military records. My family's lineage is from Portugal and Spain so I am finding records only from the time they migrated to the USA....records from Europe are more difficult to find unless I visit that country. Some USA records are not free; newspaper records, and you have to pay to get any information.
You also don't have anyone who died in a way that the coroner had to get involved! Not that the involvement of the coroner is in and of itself shameful. Homicides, suicides, accidents, and natural deaths of unidentified persons are always reportable, but so are deaths of children, prison inmates, people not under medical care, and people in the workplace. In the latter cases the coroner's office only investigates a tiny handful of cases; the coroner isn't interested in wasting time and money (and aggravating the families!) by investigating childhood cancer patients or people whose weak hearts happened to give out in the office.
September 25, 1945. 23 days after the war ended. Something tells me Stanley and therefore his family, were more victims of the war. Those kind of war vets were plentiful after coming home...unable to drink their trauma away. Utterly heartbreaking...and solid proof there is no god.
Your grandfather was just caught in the events of his time just like most Southern boys that fought for the South were caught up in the events of their era.
My grandfather never met his father and is buried 40yds from him at the same cemetery. He was the product of an affair that was never talked about/known about until Ancestry DNA came around and all parties were dead. Random people came up as close relatives under my aunts and myself. 1940 census the "lodger" had the same name as the people showing up. It was my namesake great grandfather's best from from their native country. Likely was getting busy with his wife while he was at work. Sad for my grandfather because his namesake "step" father he always thought was his father died when he was 14. The "lodger" died when he was 30. The "lodger's" family wants nothing to do with us. We want nothing from them at all besides medical history so we know. Is what it is.
Interesting. “It seems like there is no familial responsibilities”. Jason’s ex wife Olivia Wilde is accusing him of not paying any support for their children.
What a nice man Mr Stanley is he'd chose liquor over supporting his wife and young children no surprise there still happens today explains high divorce rate😢
We get better mental healthcare in this day and age than we did back when Mr. Stanley was still alive. Back in those days, treatment for alcoholism or mental breakdowns from trauma, etc., were practically nonexistent. So how Mr. Stanley lived was, sadly, very common. Especially after WWII.
Unfortunately, life is difficult for some people. anger and judgment isn't as productive as empathy and understanding, especially when so much time has passed
my children just decided to cut me out of their lives, while I took care of them since the divorce with the ex that never showed up, until she smelled money, again...
he refused to work leaving him incapable of supporting his own children, mooched off his cousin, staggered around drunk and you get the warm and fuzzies for him and lash out at his wife???
Sounds like there's two sides to the story, and it's none of our business what they're currently going through, IMO. The public think they have way too much freedom to judge celebrities when they themselves would not want themself or their family to be put in the spotlight.
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As a big fan of Jason's, from SNL to Ted Lasso, it is heartbreaking to see him digest that and try to not break on camera. You could tell it hurt him terribly. He can rest easy, though, knowing that he is carrying on the Sudeikis name and providing an outstanding legacy to his children, grandchildren and on.
Everyone's genealogy throws up something horrific you only need to go back 2 generations and infant mortality is absolutely shocking.
So true. I never knew, I think my grandpa knew and never told us that his mothers first children were twin girls who died at 6 months, a week apart from each other, of tuberculosis. Me and my sister were twins and he was so proud of us as babies. Everyone knew who we were because he had us with him everywhere and told everyone who we were and that we were HIS twins lol. Also found out that up to the 1900’s, one side of my family (French) married each other for about 200 years before. Cousins, sisters and brothers marrying each other 🤮 and on the other we were made to believe we were German when really we are Ukrainian from the Chortitza Mennonite Colony (which were German speaking but not german) 😂 the things you find out can be sad and surprising
It really is. Some of my great×3+ grandparents had more deceased children than ones that made it to adulthood. So sad.
Found out my Gma had 10 children. 5 were living in the census.
You’re right… Just two generations back for me I have multiple murderers… I don’t think infant death is a big crazy thing to find though.
You’re right… Just two generations back for me I have multiple murderers… I don’t think infant death is a big crazy thing to find though.
His Grandma basically saved her children and her grandchildren from suffering under his alcoholism....strong woman that is.
I think this is exactly right, and wanted to say so. She basically saved her children from additional, potentially generational, trauma. And Jason owes some part of where and who he is to that choice by his grandmother. Very courageous to attempt to break the trauma chain.
I never met my grandfather because he passed before I was born. Everyone always spoke highly of him but come to find out, he was a veteran with severe ptsd that was very violent towards his family. He had 8 daughters, and wanted sons instead. After each birth, he would take it out on his kids and wife. By the end of his life, he was a sweet man who loved his daughters dearly, he truly regretted his actions because no one loved him more than his daughters. He ended up having a son, but my uncle was never as strong as he hoped he would. But in his elderly years, his girls were really all he had.
I didn't meet my paternal grandparents, my grandfather also suffered from what we now know as PTSD, sadly he took his own life in 1956. His wife, my Grandmother, was apparently a very controlling woman but she too passed away before I was born. Interestingly 3 years after her death, my parents married each other and were devoted to each other.... Dad had his own scars and never spoke about his parents, we only found out about my Grandfather's passing years after Dad passed away...
Well, he at least tried to make up for the harm he caused, so that's nice.
@@MrGksarathy• Sometimes it is too late, and nobody cares.
@@cynthiadickerson5403 True, but a lot of people don't even do that, and recognizing the harm you've done does take some integrity.
I wish he could’ve went back further found out about his grandfather parents and what he did as a young man
....could've gone back.....
@@bobapbob5812
Feel better now, Bob?
I grew up in Chicago's Back o' the Yards in the late '50s & early '60s just blocks away from that corner. As can be seen, it is still a rough neighborhood to this day. English is a second language in most homes, still.
Ancestry has helped me discover that my father's paternal and maternal grandfathers were both transported from Ireland as furloughed prisoners (1880s Rent Strike evictions) to work in the Union Stockyards under contract to the packers with their wives and children following on steamships up to two years later in the 1890s. Once reunited, both families lived next door to one another on 50th & Racine where my grandfather met my grandmother.
@Nicky L As I understand it they were sentenced to hard labor for participating in "rent rebellion". My grandfather's charges included "taking an oath". They were press-ganged into accepting parole and passage to America. Wives and children then petitioned for steamship tickets through relief agencies and charities, sometimes fronts for Fenian and other Republican Irish groups
I can relate to his empathy toward his grandfather. I feel the same way about my uncle.
So many people suffer with so many demons and sometimes those demons can just consume one's life to the point where they cannot function in society. It is truly a sad story yet, a story that a lot of us experience in one way or another. Guidance and blessings to you and your family Mr Sufdeikis
Curious to know: did his gf serve in WWII? Is it possible he was "shell shocked" and (tho not an excuse, just a way of understanding) a possible reason for his failure as a father & husband?
That’s a very good question. WW2 took more victims for decades after the combat ended.
I wondered the same. I caught a glimpse of a document that I believe said he had served but was discharged or had deserted. Would be interesting to confirm and know why. Who knows what he saw or went through....
I took it that his grandfather found a way out of going to the war. I think they would have mentioned his service, instead of talking about his laziness, had he gone overseas.
Check the history of Lithuania and you’ll see that geographically it’s between Poland and Russia. I imagine historically, it was a hard place to exist-lots of invasions over time.😞
Was he in military? Did he suffer PTSD? We never know. I recently found out my own families secrets. I guess they felt I didn’t need to know.
Excellent points.
I really like Jason's response to what he found out. On a parallel note, there are multiple videos where Norm Macdonald - referring to the sins or wrongs made by Roseanne and Louis CK - said, and I paraphrase, "Your heart can break for more than one person at the same time. You can feel sorry for the victims, but you can feel sorry for the person that committed the wrong too. Sure, the victim got worse... WAY worse. But the person that committed the wrong has to face consequences ALSO."
I have not doubt that there are those whose actions simply cannot be chalked up to "Well, it's all they knew." However, for the vast majority of folks who do wrong to others, they are just exhibiting, by word and action, the only thing they know, based on their upbringing. In that context, they themselves were victims first, and consequently, they victimized others just as they had been victimized.
To put it another way, "Hurt people... HURT people and healed people... HEAL people."
I believe Norm understood that "cause and effect" dynamic really, really well and based on Jason's reaction here, I'd say Jason understands it too.
Forgiveness is more important than vindication.
Alcoholism is a terrible illness and wrecks many families and the irony when you consider Jason's uncle played everyone's favorite bar fly on cheers..but it's nothing to laugh at at is so sad..
he wasn't my favorite barfly, I found the character repugnant
We only saw him in the bar, but I don't think he was a barfly. He was employed.
@@lizlee6290 true but a barfly can still be employed and just hangs around after work
@@Marcel_Audubon I honestly thought he was lousy but I didn't like Frasier or Diane or Rebecca and I liked cliff and Carla sam was ok he reminded me of Hawkeye Peirce if he was a bartender..lol
50th and Honore?!!! Unknowingly got street cred hanging out in one of the toughest parts of chicago. 💪🏽
It was surreal to follow this one as my in-laws only lived a couple blocks over from them so they probably knew him or of him and their great uncle died a similar death a year earlier and a few blocks over, dying of exposure sleeping in the park with a head injury and alcoholic 😕
Interesting stuff. It would be nice if the voice over guy sounded a bit more compassionate. Someone cheerfully saying a man had deserted his family is jarring.
The dates make me curious if he was in the war. PTSD could explain a lot of his behaviour.
At the end of the day addiction is a disease - and I'm certain that wasnt understood at all back then. It's so sad to think about all the lives of all those generations past who didn't have any access or societal tolerance for addiction resources.
wow, so sad for jason
and he had plenty of family there. it's telling that they were not willing to take him in.
Damn I’m surprised they had him go to that area & film there. That is a pretty rough area of Chicago.
I recognized them street signs immediately, which is why I clicked.
Where do you find court testimonies?
Courthouses
@Loving Mayberry In person or can you write to them?
@@sr2291 it might be helpful to speak with your local library to see if they have any leads :))
Addiction is so rough
Rich can be defined in many ways. I think just maybe your ancestor defined it as family. And when you lose your whole family, what else really matters? Does your minimum wage job matter? When you can't see your children?
I mean I can't think of a harder thing to live through then watching your children be taken away because you're the same person you've always been, but because you couldn't magically adapt and overcome to the situation now you don't get to see your kids. I can guarantee you one thing your ancestor tried, and in the eyes of another ancestor that was not enough... and then on top of that you don't get to see your kids anymore. Meanwhile any job you do get they're Takin have your money. If you ask me no wonder he drank himself to death.
That was “emotional?” I think he was pretty stoic.
Restraint is as powerful as open grieving emotionally
Right??! I saw moments where he seemed emotional, but covered over it with humor or physical movement. Otherwise, yes - that was not by any means emotional in the conventional sense.
@@whatoncewas8480 Watch Ted Lasso when he signed his divorce papers. You'll see more pain and emotion in his eyes alone than most actors in their whole body.
That's what I saw in this piece also.
Some people can only recognize emotional distress when it's being broadcast externally-- tears, trembling voice and limbs. Others are able to sense it from the most subtle indications-- tightening around the eyes, flattened voice, careful/stilted movements.
An individual can be screaming internally and there appear to be such minute physical evidence of their distress as to almost be nonexistent, yet a sensitive human can easily pick up on that individual's inner turmoil.
Jason was in deep distress here. He wasn't physically pantomiming that distress as a means of garnering attention and/or sympathy.
This is why the emotional distress of many men gets ignored. The signals are often misunderstood or not even noticed. I hope Jason was able to spend some time with a loved one afterwards, someone who would be able to just sit with him or provide a soothing backrub or much needed hug.
Who is Jason s uncle?
George Wendt aka Norm from Cheers is his maternal uncle
Why tf would they put him in the exact spot his grandpa slammed his head on the concrete? 🤣
WWII wasn't kind to many vets.
Maybe his grandfather had been mentally ill. Plagued with addiction.
Remember there were no medication at that time, no studies like now. No rehab.
No PTSD diagnosis.
Have mercy.
No comments? Well? I do my family's genealogy and I never find detail documents like this. I only find census, birth, death, marriage, baptism or some school and military records. My family's lineage is from Portugal and Spain so I am finding records only from the time they migrated to the USA....records from Europe are more difficult to find unless I visit that country. Some USA records are not free; newspaper records, and you have to pay to get any information.
you don't have a team of television producers doing the pre-work for you as he does
Where in Portugal and Spain? There are records online.
You also don't have anyone who died in a way that the coroner had to get involved!
Not that the involvement of the coroner is in and of itself shameful. Homicides, suicides, accidents, and natural deaths of unidentified persons are always reportable, but so are deaths of children, prison inmates, people not under medical care, and people in the workplace. In the latter cases the coroner's office only investigates a tiny handful of cases; the coroner isn't interested in wasting time and money (and aggravating the families!) by investigating childhood cancer patients or people whose weak hearts happened to give out in the office.
Also cities listed from could be instead neighboring small town,
Sleeping in the park with a church directly across the street. 😢
Was he in the wars? This is just a portion.
September 25, 1945. 23 days after the war ended. Something tells me Stanley and therefore his family, were more victims of the war. Those kind of war vets were plentiful after coming home...unable to drink their trauma away. Utterly heartbreaking...and solid proof there is no god.
Sad he died alone with nothing. Many people are living that life unfortunately
I would like a book or movie adaptation of his father's life from birth to death to know what happen from other family members perspective
The genealogists name is gene?
Your grandfather was just caught in the events of his time just like most Southern boys that fought for the South were caught up in the events of their era.
Damn, his grampa was a drunk and probably had mental issues. It's a sad story.
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You know who else isn’t getting support. Olivia Wilde. Mic drop.
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My grandfather never met his father and is buried 40yds from him at the same cemetery. He was the product of an affair that was never talked about/known about until Ancestry DNA came around and all parties were dead. Random people came up as close relatives under my aunts and myself. 1940 census the "lodger" had the same name as the people showing up. It was my namesake great grandfather's best from from their native country. Likely was getting busy with his wife while he was at work. Sad for my grandfather because his namesake "step" father he always thought was his father died when he was 14. The "lodger" died when he was 30. The "lodger's" family wants nothing to do with us. We want nothing from them at all besides medical history so we know. Is what it is.
If this is the worst in your family history, you got a pretty lucky draw.
Not so famous family stuff of famous people.
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He seemed to be self medicating...
Makes you wonder what happened to him to make him do that.
@@Meli1380 I was just wondering the same. Stanley didn't turn out that way for no reason.
@@Meli1380 His father most likely.
@@sr2291 Did they have information on Stanley's father ?
@@Odo55 I have no idea.
Xanax, very much !, Jason...
I keep waiting for the audience to laugh.
So, this man's granddad became a derelict drunk.
Interesting. “It seems like there is no familial responsibilities”. Jason’s ex wife Olivia Wilde is accusing him of not paying any support for their children.
@suzannelabatt9151 - We only know tabloid rumors.
What a nice man Mr Stanley is he'd chose liquor over supporting his wife and young children no surprise there still happens today explains high divorce rate😢
Nobody “chooses” to be an alcoholic.
We get better mental healthcare in this day and age than we did back when Mr. Stanley was still alive. Back in those days, treatment for alcoholism or mental breakdowns from trauma, etc., were practically nonexistent. So how Mr. Stanley lived was, sadly, very common. Especially after WWII.
@@lunaholiday8585 unfortuneately they do if they refuse help
I doubt there was anywhere to get help in the 1940s.
Unfortunately, life is difficult for some people. anger and judgment isn't as productive as empathy and understanding, especially when so much time has passed
I laugh whenever I see him because I know he got beaten by his wife.
Ironic considering his battle with his now ex wife.
Weird comment
@@chillarypuff why weird?
She did recently make an accusation of he not being an equal provider..😢
my children just decided to cut me out of their lives, while I took care of them since the divorce with the ex that never showed up, until she smelled money, again...
I like this guy.I don't like and or appreciate how the mother of his children treated him.
You have no idea how he treated the mother of his children. Alcoholic, wouldn’t work, probably very abusive.
he refused to work leaving him incapable of supporting his own children, mooched off his cousin, staggered around drunk and you get the warm and fuzzies for him and lash out at his wife???
Pretty sure Camille's comment was about Jason, not his grandfather.
Sounds like there's two sides to the story, and it's none of our business what they're currently going through, IMO. The public think they have way too much freedom to judge celebrities when they themselves would not want themself or their family to be put in the spotlight.
@@audibletapehiss3764 You're right, It definitely was 😂 Always good to read things thoroughly before commenting.
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BOT. BOTTING. Y'all... Seriously. This is a bot botting.
So crappy relationship behaviour runs in his family. Some things never change.
she could be lying, just because her words are in a court transcript doesnt mean its the truth
Looking at records from the 1920’s it looks like she was telling the truth
Clearly never been near anyone who wasn't middle class