Pokemon’s Most One-Sided Ban Vote.

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • Pokemon Competitive Singles has been turned on it's head with the release of the "Hidden Treasure of Area Zero" DLC. Bloodmoon Ursaluna sure is an all new Ursaluna. This one uses special attacks though.
    Bloodmoon Ursaluna artwork by VIKworks:
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    The move "Blood Moon" has a very high base power and thanks to "Mind's Eye" also known as "Scrappy 2", nothing can switch in against it. Woohoo!
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    Some will never figure out how to get Bloodmoon Ursaluna in Pokemon Scarlet and Pokemon Violet. But famous player Jim Cool is well aware of the Best Bloodmoon Ursaluna Moveset in Competitive, and even how to Bloodmoon Ursaluna Shiny Farm. Many aren't and never will be. That's just the unfortunate reality of the world.
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Комментарии • 707

  • @jimothycool
    @jimothycool  11 месяцев назад +60

    I'm hosting a $3000+ Gen 3 OU Tournament. Check out the commentary here:
    www.youtube.com/@jimothygaming/videos

    • @BETTER.THANYOU.
      @BETTER.THANYOU. 11 месяцев назад

      :)

    • @jackhammer4499
      @jackhammer4499 11 месяцев назад

      Like, he's in the replies to my comment on this very same video. I honestly find it difficult to believe anyone would ever fall for it, but yeah, that is a thing that is currently transpiring.

    • @Mystic_DW
      @Mystic_DW 11 месяцев назад

      ?@@jackhammer4499

  • @The_Cooler_Nari
    @The_Cooler_Nari 11 месяцев назад +3217

    I can’t believe it. 8 gens after gen 1 and “bulky normal type just firing hyper beam” is back to being meta.

    • @otttimon5654
      @otttimon5654 11 месяцев назад +372

      Aside from the fact that blood moon is 10x better than hyper beam

    • @wadewillson9220
      @wadewillson9220 11 месяцев назад +105

      It's not hyper beam tho as you had a turn where you did nothing and were vulnerable. This you just can't use the move twice. Huge difference.

    • @qweschuning
      @qweschuning 11 месяцев назад +254

      You guys have never had a Tauros mirror every round of a tournament and it shows...

    • @SlothoftheSun
      @SlothoftheSun 11 месяцев назад +381

      @@wadewillson9220 Not in Gen 1. In Gen 1 if you got a kill with hyper beam there was no rest turn.

    • @SlothoftheSun
      @SlothoftheSun 11 месяцев назад +240

      @@otttimon5654 Gen 1 hyper beam was way more broken lmao. If you got a KO with it then there was no rest turn making mons like Tauros absolute monsters.

  • @ultimatechiller
    @ultimatechiller 11 месяцев назад +1103

    you know you are a problematic pokemon when people run the most niche checks to it and those checks still can be beaten

    • @breloommaster12
      @breloommaster12 11 месяцев назад +88

      Beaten by BLuna itself no less with just minor tweaks; a speed invested Taunt BLuna can 1v1 Clefable, whereas a BLuna that also carries Hyper Voice for dual Normal STAB can completely circumvent Sub/Protect opponents wanting to play around Blood Moon's cooldown

    • @wentoneisendon6502
      @wentoneisendon6502 11 месяцев назад +3

      What does a check mean?

    • @asierx7047
      @asierx7047 11 месяцев назад +61

      The most niche check for BLuna i've seen was an Assault Vest Arboliva on a Grassy Terrain team, whose strat was to tank Blood Moon, set up terrain, then OHKO with a Giga Drain and get all its health back.

    • @boop53
      @boop53 11 месяцев назад +10

      back when ogerpon-h was in the format, I was using banded lokix and slither wing first impression to deal with it lmao, but even that was sketchy
      for bmluna i was running shit like spdef corv, but nothing is stopping bmlune from just cming on you

    • @scarab5648
      @scarab5648 11 месяцев назад

      ​​@@wentoneisendon6502a pokemon that can "challenge" the opponent, checks are normally what balances out extremely versatile pokemon!!
      N.t:Sorry for the bad english

  • @iseegreen5297
    @iseegreen5297 11 месяцев назад +130

    freddy fadbear finally reached the five night 😥😥😥😥

    • @陳嘉宇-y4q
      @陳嘉宇-y4q 11 месяцев назад +9

      And we finally saw the daylight of the 6th ray

  • @socialistrepublicofvietnam1500
    @socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 11 месяцев назад +528

    This is the second special Normal-type move with a 150 BP and a drawback to dominate OU

    • @MrOofio64
      @MrOofio64 11 месяцев назад +18

      ​@@PudcupHyper Beam in gen 1

    • @undeadmyth9977
      @undeadmyth9977 11 месяцев назад +64

      Well Hyper Beam was physical in gen 1 but whatever I think everyone gets the point.

    • @MelodyLumina
      @MelodyLumina 11 месяцев назад +18

      @@undeadmyth9977tbf no physical special split was wacky

    • @michael_betts
      @michael_betts 11 месяцев назад +2

      Hyper beam was only good when it was physical

    • @lolidemon3163
      @lolidemon3163 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@michael_betts um u realize then theres giga impact, basically physical hyper beam

  • @exa_eille
    @exa_eille 11 месяцев назад +644

    Never forget Skymin 100% 🙏

    • @fabiaaquino2207
      @fabiaaquino2207 11 месяцев назад +36

      I was just using skymin in ubers and i missed 3 seed flares in a row😭(also unban him its not that cancerous)

    • @thanoscarssbu153
      @thanoscarssbu153 11 месяцев назад +229

      Bro said 60% flinches and 80% spdef drops ain't that bad😭

    • @boop53
      @boop53 11 месяцев назад +180

      “not that cancerous”
      >127 speed
      >80% chance to harshly lower spdef
      >60% chance to flinch
      okay

    • @hayyan958
      @hayyan958 11 месяцев назад +37

      @@thanoscarssbu153 honestly the spdef drops aren't that bad but the 60% flinch is cancer but covert cloak exists.

    • @ck11032
      @ck11032 11 месяцев назад +106

      ​@@hayyan958if it requires every pokemon to run covert cloak to have a consistent shot at checking it, it should probably be banned

  • @gregorymirabella1423
    @gregorymirabella1423 11 месяцев назад +859

    Amazing how Blissey rose all the way up to OU to counter Bloodmoon.
    A Pokemon that learns Body Press.

    • @amiablereaper
      @amiablereaper 11 месяцев назад +73

      Oh my god

    • @wonderfulrose477
      @wonderfulrose477 11 месяцев назад +29

      It was also dealing with manaphy

    • @Uohhhh777
      @Uohhhh777 11 месяцев назад +4

      Blissey can't do anything to it I've taken out them easily unless they terra steel or something

    • @wonderfulrose477
      @wonderfulrose477 11 месяцев назад +34

      @@Uohhhh777 bliss needs toxic back to be why threat to anything

    • @Uohhhh777
      @Uohhhh777 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@wonderfulrose477 terra poison ursaluna with grassy surge rillaboom and Grassy seed is nearly impossible to beat

  • @bhizzle64
    @bhizzle64 11 месяцев назад +172

    I think that if bloodmoon came out before regular ursaluna it would have gotten quickbanned. But the fact that ursaluna came out and then turned out to be underwhelming despite the sky high expectations of it, gave some people pause about the strength of bloodmoon. As it turns out, there were enough differences between the two for a drastic shift in power. I think it’s good that time was taken to definitively determine these differences

    • @acekun6493
      @acekun6493 11 месяцев назад +20

      I think speed is usually a big factor when it comes to Pokemon being broken, the main difference is that normal Ursaluna wears itself down and Bloodmoon is really bulky and has good recovery options. When you look at slower offensive Pokemon that were banned in some tiers like Mega Mawile, Melmetal, Kingambit and Magearna they all spend some time in their tiers prior to a ban because its always reasonable to assume that you can simply defeat them by being faster and disrupt or outoffense them.

    • @goldenhydreigon4727
      @goldenhydreigon4727 11 месяцев назад +2

      Like I said
      The Virgin Ursaluna vs The Chad Eviolite Ursaring

  • @sharpfang3660
    @sharpfang3660 11 месяцев назад +272

    i have some words for the person that decided that blood moon can hit ghost types, as if it wasn't powerful enough

    • @homerman76
      @homerman76 11 месяцев назад +43

      I mean that wouldn't be so bad if BM wasn't a base 140 power stab move, it's the combination of everything that makes it a problem

    • @bigmonke3348
      @bigmonke3348 11 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@homerman76blood Moon isn't that busted tbh it's basically a slightly better hyper beam. The problem was the bulk

    • @noukan42
      @noukan42 11 месяцев назад +58

      ​@@bigmonke3348i am againist 99% of Smogon quickbans and even i took a good look at Bloodmoon and went "no this shit is actually broken".

    • @goobingtons
      @goobingtons 11 месяцев назад +51

      ​@@bigmonke3348"a slightly better hyper beam" he says. Meanwhile it literally does everything except power better and is exclusive to a mon with scrappy LMAO

    • @captain_buggles
      @captain_buggles 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@goobingtonsI mean you can't really add the last thing on as a reason why they're wrong when hitting Ghosts is inherent to the mon, not the move.
      And less bulk and worse recovery really would mean that it would be significantly easier to just kill this thing before it has a chance to just sit there alternating between nuking, boosting, and healing.

  • @nharviala
    @nharviala 11 месяцев назад +79

    I remember when this got revealed, and people were saying it was going to be worse than base Ursaluna, with a lower attacking stat, worse speed bracket, and... I don't remember the other reason. Either way, I remember laughing to myself at that video, thinking this mon is what happens when Tinkaton gets good attack.

    • @aldolibreri791
      @aldolibreri791 11 месяцев назад +21

      Regular Ursaluna is basically immune to status because everyone runs the guts/flame orb set.
      That is something that BM doesn’t have. But BM has set up, healing, and a broken ability instead.
      People also though that BM would be less bulky on the special side because BM has less health and special defense, but Calm Mind fixes that. A single Calm Mind boost also boost it’s special attack to similar levels to what Base has with a flame orb. So with all of that, BM becomes substantial better than base.

    • @Poondaedalin
      @Poondaedalin 11 месяцев назад +7

      The Smogon forum for it is pretty hilarious. There were people who thought it would be UU at best, and that Blood Moon was bad because, in singles, it’s Boomburst but worse.

    • @goobingtons
      @goobingtons 11 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@aldolibreri791your first point is moot because to accomplish that it kills itself, L. BMU has a better attacking profile for it's typing, a better ability and recovery that isn't rest or leftovers+protect.
      It was always going to be as good as the other one, especially once we saw it's movepool

    • @MacZephyrZ
      @MacZephyrZ 11 месяцев назад +6

      I was one of the skeptics of Ursaluna classic. I pointed out that without speed or priority it'd struggle as an offensive threat, and without recovery it'd struggle as a defensive one. Old Rampardos theorem struck again - people never learn.
      Then Blood Moon came along and had both priority and healing, as well as a way to hit ghosts on the switch because why freaking not.

    • @dr.dylansgame5583
      @dr.dylansgame5583 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@goobingtons To be fair people always ignore Bulk Up and Rest combination on Base Ursaluna. With this Setup you can fully invest into HP and Spdef. And Rest even negates the Burn Damage while asleep. Once you get a boost or two especially on Tera Normal the only way to really stop it is either. The Strongest Fighting Types in the game with High Base Power Moves to boot which have there own drawbacks 90 percent of the time. Or again on the Opposite Side Strong Fighting Special Attackers but how many of those are actually good?

  • @AmoniPaleo
    @AmoniPaleo 11 месяцев назад +121

    As time goes on, and more of these basic broken pokemon that are keep getting created only for them to be banished to Ubers *(and proceed to not have any niche there whatsoever)* an UUbers doesn't seem so bad afterall.

    •  11 месяцев назад +31

      And then OUbers, NUbers and RUbers.

    • @XParasiteOctoling
      @XParasiteOctoling 11 месяцев назад +34

      I think there’s an unofficial format named that right now, a youtuber named chompy went over it a little bit

    • @scrunkore
      @scrunkore 11 месяцев назад

      OU 2

    • @andrejg4136
      @andrejg4136 11 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@scrunkorehonestly I'm open to renaming the tiers like divisions in high school sports in America. Division 1, 2, etc.

    • @jacksonhoiland2664
      @jacksonhoiland2664 11 месяцев назад +2

      UUbers is a good idea if you think about it, a lot of Ubers suck in Ubers and would need UUbers to be used in any format legally. This makes it pretty clear UUbers are good seeing as how they cannot hurt and they make more pokemon able to be used.

  • @alexman159
    @alexman159 11 месяцев назад +123

    Blood moon is insane. No immunity switch ins. No dodging it. It’s also special which is extremely relevant given that it’s resistances, steel and rock, tend to be defense oriented rather than special

    • @lordquastheonly
      @lordquastheonly 11 месяцев назад

      You know zamezenta exist

    • @Gnolte
      @Gnolte 11 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@lordquastheonlyIt's in ubers (unless you're talking about hero form which isn't steel type) but anyway neither of them are special oriented (base 140 of both defenses) and even if it they were OP said "tend" not "always are"

    • @austinjordan8308
      @austinjordan8308 11 месяцев назад

      Wouldn't celesteela wall Ursaluna?

    • @Gnolte
      @Gnolte 11 месяцев назад

      @@austinjordan8308 I assume it's the same case as 1:35

  • @amb1ance
    @amb1ance 11 месяцев назад +200

    Not related to the video but ADV revival matches have been all bangers

    • @why3994
      @why3994 11 месяцев назад

      True, everyone reading this should subscribe to Jimothy Gaming

    • @jazzercise300
      @jazzercise300 11 месяцев назад +6

      Yea I love all his videos, but there's a buncha other poketubers doin gen 9. I like jimothys breakdown more than most but I mostly watch this channel for adv OU content. I love learning that mediocre pokemon like lunatone, glalie, banette, etc are all very usable in gen 3 (if you know what you're doing, I usually do not)

    • @mondooowada3537
      @mondooowada3537 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@jazzercise300Don't forget learning about the most common and reliable OU threats, like Mixed Poliwrath, Butterfree, and the Duskull + Dusclops Curse Core.

  • @n00bgamer97
    @n00bgamer97 11 месяцев назад +65

    I disagree with the ban. I will not be explaining further. Cheers.

    • @Trollrijas
      @Trollrijas 11 месяцев назад +14

      -disagrees
      -refuses to elaborate further
      -leaves

  • @BlaqueT
    @BlaqueT 11 месяцев назад +108

    That Bloodmoon art at the start was pretty cool. Not surprised by the banning, I've been racking my brain for counters that can endure its coverage

  • @jamesgiles4517
    @jamesgiles4517 11 месяцев назад +53

    Calyrex shadow was also very one sided this gen 😂

    • @moeeyeguy531
      @moeeyeguy531 11 месяцев назад +5

      I don’t think he was ever suspected. At least, I don’t remember it ever being legal this gen.

    • @memedaddy7098
      @memedaddy7098 11 месяцев назад +30

      Fun fact. Bludmoon beat Calyrex Shadow by 0.12%.

    • @jamesgiles4517
      @jamesgiles4517 11 месяцев назад +14

      ​@moeeyeguy531 it was quickbanned first, then it was suspect tested to see if it was healthy
      The results should shock no-one

    • @becausesakamoto5938
      @becausesakamoto5938 11 месяцев назад +19

      ​@@jamesgiles4517for sure, the only thing keeping Calyrex in check in SS was Yveltal and now it's gone so it's way too fast and strong

    • @sshuckle
      @sshuckle 11 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@becausesakamoto5938Even if yveltal was here it wouldn't help. Tera Fairy Caly-S is completely unstoppable

  • @mobius1185
    @mobius1185 11 месяцев назад +22

    The power creep this gen is insane lol

  • @generallytrash
    @generallytrash 11 месяцев назад +25

    This is one of those pokemon that really feels designed around VGC where the fact that you can double into it and that its most threatening options are single target (-hyper voice which isn't really a guranteed part of the set) make it a scary but quite managable mon outside of trick room (and even then it still can be played around in all the usual trick room ways). Kind of an unfortunate side effect of pokemon leaning into vgc as an appeal for the games in the singles environment

    • @jericho86
      @jericho86 11 месяцев назад +7

      I think it’s more designed around giving children a broken Pokémon to sweep NPCs with.

    • @generallytrash
      @generallytrash 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@jericho86 good for you man

    • @1stCallipostle
      @1stCallipostle 11 месяцев назад +14

      ​@@jericho86Children don't do dex completion. I don't think they've even tried since gen 2.
      And given you have to do some major dex filling to get Bloodmoon (who has quite literally zero ingame content to use it on after for the time being), no child will ever use it unless it's traded to them

  • @thatanonwholurksmoar7386
    @thatanonwholurksmoar7386 11 месяцев назад +44

    I'm not mad. Im happy that our silly bear got such powerful form and broke into Ubers. Look at em go

    • @jianchristian1367
      @jianchristian1367 11 месяцев назад +8

      Har Har har har har harr har Harr har Harr

    • @BHRA78
      @BHRA78 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@jianchristian1367Freddy fazbear????!!!!

    • @The_Moodi
      @The_Moodi 11 месяцев назад +14

      I swear to god imagine explaining to someone from 2003 that Goldfish, Primeape evolution and teddy bear will be banned to Uber while tyranitar is in UU.

    • @thatanonwholurksmoar7386
      @thatanonwholurksmoar7386 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@The_Moodi ttar dropping to UU was tragic

    • @The_Moodi
      @The_Moodi 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@thatanonwholurksmoar7386 even more tragic when he was in RU and gyarados was the one to get quick ban, not ttar

  • @Maszt14
    @Maszt14 11 месяцев назад +23

    I absolutely love bloodmoon ursalunas design and clicking blood moon and 2 shotting a corviknight is fun but it sure is a problem

  • @canaldecasta
    @canaldecasta 11 месяцев назад +71

    Iron Mugulis rigged the ban, as BM Ursaluna is the only one capable of stoping such a foe.

  • @maxmucci3170
    @maxmucci3170 11 месяцев назад +14

    In its favor, it might as well be a legendary considering the way you obtain it in game

  • @Slimeonian
    @Slimeonian 11 месяцев назад +98

    Random idea, what if all recharge moves like Hyper Beam, Rock Wrecker, Roar of Time etc… were changed so that instead of forcing a recharge turn, they simply can’t be used twice in a row? 🤔 how would that change things?

    • @SpaceFrog999
      @SpaceFrog999 11 месяцев назад +74

      They would instantly become viable options just like blood moon, its pretty much draco meteor at that point except you dont have to switch out and back in to use it again you just have to stall a turn

    • @Slimeonian
      @Slimeonian 11 месяцев назад +90

      @@SpaceFrog999 Hyper Beam Adaptability Porygon-Z go Brrrr

    • @GoldtisticYT
      @GoldtisticYT 11 месяцев назад +3

      Is blast burn still in the game

    • @Slimeonian
      @Slimeonian 11 месяцев назад +32

      @@GoldtisticYT Ah yeah Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant and Hydro Cannon are still in the game. I just forgot to mention them

    • @ronaid-with-an-i
      @ronaid-with-an-i 11 месяцев назад +25

      Multiple pokemon learn 2 recharge moves
      Unless it's made so no "can't be used twice in a row" moves can be used during cooldown, it would be funny

  • @mika5109
    @mika5109 11 месяцев назад +28

    Ursaluna is one of the coolest new evolutions kinda ruined the vibe by making an even more OP special version of it

    • @balancemaster55
      @balancemaster55 11 месяцев назад +6

      Yeah as a balanced hackmons player I rarely see non legendaries used but ursaluna was used a bit by a few players high ladder which is very rare in a meta game where legendary base stat totals + access to almost all moves+ almost all abilities.

  • @Uohhhh777
    @Uohhhh777 11 месяцев назад +4

    Guys is that freddy fazbear?
    hor hor hor hor hor hor hor hor hor

  • @demi-femme4821
    @demi-femme4821 11 месяцев назад +10

    -Near-perfect STAB coverage
    -Calm Mind to boost its bulk and break past the one thing that resists its STAB
    -Fuckload of good tools.

    • @mr.sandman7339
      @mr.sandman7339 11 месяцев назад +4

      Worth mentioning that 2 of those good tools were reliable recovery to go with that boosted bulk OR a priority move that patches up its bad speed and takes on just about anything that resists Blood Moon
      Might be just a little overtuned

  • @silvesta5027
    @silvesta5027 11 месяцев назад +55

    I swear there are so many strong Pokemon being introduced this generation that soon enough, (maybe next generation?) they might need to be a tier between OU and Ubers

    • @kimotokirby1601
      @kimotokirby1601 11 месяцев назад +31

      technicaly there is, uubers. It's new but it's basicaly what UU is to OU but with Ubers

    • @homerman76
      @homerman76 11 месяцев назад +14

      Yeah, the power creep is getting very real lately Ttar and Garchomp's fall from grace is proof of that, especially when you realize that Dragonite is the only pseudo, not from the two most recent gens, to be in OU and above, with Dragapult being in OU and Baxcalibur in Ubers. It's honestly kind of crazy just how much the meta has shifted in these last two gens

    • @kimotokirby1601
      @kimotokirby1601 11 месяцев назад +20

      @@lordmew5 Who cares, UUbers is being develop

    • @bluesoda6379
      @bluesoda6379 11 месяцев назад +17

      ​@@kimotokirby1601you really hit them with the don't care + ratio + uubers is in development

    • @Blanktester685
      @Blanktester685 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@lordmew5 no one cares buddy. nothing you said makes any sense.

  • @EggscellentTree
    @EggscellentTree 11 месяцев назад +28

    I think it would have been nice if his signature move worked like gen 1 hyperbeam cause the current drawback doesnt seem that severe

    • @digitaltailsmon4096
      @digitaltailsmon4096 11 месяцев назад +13

      My thoughts exactly! Like that kinda drawback and power works for tinkaton because it's one of few times game freak thought to give a pokemon a good type and move but not make it's states ridiculously high

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 11 месяцев назад +4

      It really isn't. You can get punished by spamming Gen 1 Hyper Beam recklessly.

    • @socialistrepublicofvietnam1500
      @socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 11 месяцев назад +11

      Remember how Sirfetch'd signature move got blocked by a full recharge while Blood Moon on this OP beast gets barely any punishment?

    • @mainzer45
      @mainzer45 11 месяцев назад

      It'd certainly constrain its movepool a bit more, but I think it might end up as powerful if a bit less versatile in moveset. Something like bm, calm mind, earth power, vacuum wave/hyper voice instead of potentially running moonlight.

    • @1stCallipostle
      @1stCallipostle 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@digitaltailsmon4096It does not work for Tinkaton. She's seriously undertuned and went to generic support hell.
      Tink's stats OR move should've had a drawback, both is too much for it to ever be truly great offensively like was the seeming intention of it's design.
      Either remove Gigaton's drawback, or give it a +20 base attack and then it'll finally cook properly

  • @Aflay1
    @Aflay1 11 месяцев назад +3

    Gorbachev wishes he was as legendary as this wallbreaker.

  • @hammdogporkington3058
    @hammdogporkington3058 11 месяцев назад +3

    Was that the Ban of '23?!

  • @shoogles_
    @shoogles_ 11 месяцев назад +2

    Disgusting that Chi-Yu would have the audacity to swear on the thumbnail. We demand a full and frank apology

    • @Rarest26
      @Rarest26 11 месяцев назад +2

      All you’d get is “252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD you in Sun: 780-918 (197.9 - 232.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO”

  • @RiverWilliamson
    @RiverWilliamson 10 месяцев назад +3

    You only get one, so it kinda is a legendary.
    But really, this Pokemon showed us how terrifying Tinka could have been

  • @fiendish9474
    @fiendish9474 11 месяцев назад +6

    Ursaluna really came out of nowhere this gen and started swinging

  • @ShatteredQvartz
    @ShatteredQvartz 11 месяцев назад +4

    Ursaluna ended up really not being like your average bear...

  • @EllipticalReasoning
    @EllipticalReasoning 11 месяцев назад +4

    shoutout to shaymin-sky for being so infuriating it got a higher ban vote than deoxys-attack and darkrai (uber staples) despite being quite bad in ubers.

    • @HowlingOneify
      @HowlingOneify 11 месяцев назад

      ??? Skymin was good in Ubers for its first two generations.

  • @slader6079
    @slader6079 11 месяцев назад +3

    FNAF fans are in shambles once again.

  • @Mudkip971
    @Mudkip971 11 месяцев назад +3

    Regular Ursaluna lives another day

  • @unfunniestman
    @unfunniestman 11 месяцев назад +2

    "But unlike Tinkaton, this pokémon has stats"
    ouch

  • @stuckinabucket6873
    @stuckinabucket6873 11 месяцев назад +4

    This pokemon might as well be legendary you can only get 1 per game,i its acts as an in game boss fight, very high power stats, insane moveset. The only thing making this not legendary is gamefreak deciding to give the title to ovgrepon instead

    • @rizkidary837
      @rizkidary837 11 месяцев назад

      Or maybe in mythical

    • @CarmenLC
      @CarmenLC 11 месяцев назад

      literally unbreedable

  • @nhantran9378
    @nhantran9378 11 месяцев назад +4

    Blood moon is technically a Mythical Pokémon that only available one in each game, and can only be capture after a story gameplay

  • @nameputhpong9041
    @nameputhpong9041 11 месяцев назад +10

    And so begins the hunt for the five that voted don’t ban….

  • @Kuroo39
    @Kuroo39 11 месяцев назад +2

    You know that jimothy made it to the big leagues when you see bot accounts impersonating him in the comments

  • @stainmaster2630
    @stainmaster2630 11 месяцев назад +3

    What if Pokémon could do big damage with stab moves 🤔

  • @skillhunter4804
    @skillhunter4804 11 месяцев назад +4

    Playing around it with air balloon tera flying gholdengo dueing my suspect run made me sweat a lot, glad that it's near unanimous and thus likely never getting tested in future games

  • @milesandrews6711
    @milesandrews6711 11 месяцев назад +1

    Okay but who were the 2 people who thought it was okay to leave Deoxys A in OU
    No actually, who thought it was even remotely okay to leave a Hydrogen bomb in a land of coughing babies

  • @Alola_love7119
    @Alola_love7119 11 месяцев назад +10

    Will you be doing a video on that new UUbers tier that's been made? It seems pretty interesting and would like to hear your take on it.

    • @undercoverweeb
      @undercoverweeb 11 месяцев назад

      OU if people weren't bitchmade
      Nuff said

    • @GoldGuard
      @GoldGuard 11 месяцев назад

      I can’t find it or any mention of it online. And it’s not even on Showdown. Is it real?

    • @zadarok359
      @zadarok359 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@GoldGuard yeah @chompy_YT did make a video with the guy behind it

    • @GoldGuard
      @GoldGuard 11 месяцев назад

      @@zadarok359Thanks

  • @user-fz9vk4js5l
    @user-fz9vk4js5l 11 месяцев назад +8

    Dont play OU but im very surprised that something this slow was unanimously banned. Especially with common weaknesses

    • @Nobody-su9km
      @Nobody-su9km 11 месяцев назад +3

      that's how you figure out the community devolved as a whole.

    • @Mingha0
      @Mingha0 11 месяцев назад +28

      @@Nobody-su9km-someone who hasn’t played ou in months

    • @Nobody-su9km
      @Nobody-su9km 11 месяцев назад

      does OU stand for "Our own Unique calculator"? Imagine playing a calculator emulator and still banning everything, pitfull honestly...@@Mingha0

    • @andrejg4136
      @andrejg4136 11 месяцев назад +13

      It has Moonlight and is bulky as fuck. You are near guaranteed a KO once it gets in and you don't have to do much to get 3. If one Mon can basically take half another team by itself regardless of that other team then it deserves to get kicked upstairs.

    • @user-fz9vk4js5l
      @user-fz9vk4js5l 11 месяцев назад

      @@andrejg4136
      Yeah I clarified i dont play OU to clarify i dont have any opinions on it being banned, just surprised to see it. I only play random battles and past gens really

  • @mesiveloni
    @mesiveloni 11 месяцев назад +1

    252+ SpA Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Blood Moon vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Ice Scales Frosmoth: 66-78 (23.4 - 27.6%) -- 81.5% chance to 4HKO
    Suprise motherfu-

  • @raikaria3090
    @raikaria3090 11 месяцев назад +2

    So; 4 pokemon have out-voted Ursaluna. So it's not Pokemon's most one-sided vote. So the title is clickbait and lies. Disliked for misleading title.

  • @sirmrman1
    @sirmrman1 11 месяцев назад +3

    yeah im surprised it took THIS long for it to happen, the only check he had was Blissey, and even that had some counterplay

  • @oldoutlet6946
    @oldoutlet6946 11 месяцев назад +1

    I can get over Gamefreak making ridiculous mons like this if their actions were consistent. Yet they give Tinkaton weak stats, take away moves from mons like Weavile, and nerf already weak mons that needed buffs.

  • @ChannleForProjects
    @ChannleForProjects 11 месяцев назад +1

    While i support the motivation and theory behind this ban as well as the overall ban structure of high level play, i personally feel that such bans should be restricted from affecting such handsome pokemon who deserve our attention and inclusion

  • @Lamsaturn
    @Lamsaturn 11 месяцев назад +1

    What if bear had a Big Button he could push

  • @bengoodwin2141
    @bengoodwin2141 11 месяцев назад +11

    It baffles me that this is banned but Kingambit isn't. Tera doesn't make the rest of the meta completely broken, but it does for kingambit. Yes, neither one of them is entirely the problem, but I would rather keep the mechanic than the one pokemon

    • @hoovybeast0594
      @hoovybeast0594 11 месяцев назад +8

      Tbh, Kingambit doesn't need tera to win. To me it's an auto win, no brain, just throw pokemon and watch as it murders

    • @yarc9
      @yarc9 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@hoovybeast0594gambit is 4 time weak to fighting you need to run vacuum wave empeloen to beat it one hit

    • @duyminh2803
      @duyminh2803 11 месяцев назад +1

      dragapult should be banned along if gambit is banned and every one loves dragapult

    • @bunnywaaah8091
      @bunnywaaah8091 11 месяцев назад +3

      you probably can't ban gambit without making pult and the ghosts overpowered
      But ehh who knows what's gonna happen
      Maybe we'll see the rise of ttar

    • @yarc9
      @yarc9 11 месяцев назад

      @@duyminh2803just run vacuum wave empeleon to beat it with one hit

  • @chess_fella
    @chess_fella 11 месяцев назад +2

    This is insane.

  • @LifeOrbes
    @LifeOrbes 11 месяцев назад +1

    I just think of the poor VGC folk having to deal with this behemoth

  • @thekillakrook1764
    @thekillakrook1764 11 месяцев назад +3

    Darkrai should be tested in OU..I'm just curious to see how it'll fair in the new meta

  • @MysticZefer
    @MysticZefer 11 месяцев назад +1

    ah yes smogon the worst ranking system ever created.

  • @ThePauperGuy
    @ThePauperGuy 11 месяцев назад +1

    My Favorite pokemon is Excadrill, Doryuuzu is such a cool name that I never knew about

  • @kevinbraibant2618
    @kevinbraibant2618 11 месяцев назад +8

    We need a move like how freeze acts in Arceus. Frostbite, same effect as Will-o-wisp but for Spatk. Would help in this situation (depending on how many Pkmn would get access to Frostbite).

    • @WhtCrstlJudgmntDrgn
      @WhtCrstlJudgmntDrgn 11 месяцев назад +2

      I agree, but the problem is what you listed: Ice types. We know they are in a terrible place overall.

  • @finalGambitShedinja
    @finalGambitShedinja 11 месяцев назад +1

    giving vacuum wave was so out of pocket. i think priority is what sends it over the edge of uber. the later in the game you get, vacuum wave invalidates more and more revenge killers as they are weakened or ursaluna is boosted.

  • @rotomRASENGAN
    @rotomRASENGAN 11 месяцев назад +1

    0:20 Damn, Doryuuzu got banned so hard it’s never been seen again. I wonder why Excadrill wasn’t on the list though.

  • @TunaBear64
    @TunaBear64 11 месяцев назад +1

    Man, the bears can't catch a break from being banned
    Ursaluna-Bloodmoon: Banned from OU
    Ursaluna: Banned from NDOU
    Ursaring: Banned from PU
    Beartic: Banned from ZU (twice)
    Urshifu (both forms) Banned from OU

  • @Thomas-ev4gm
    @Thomas-ev4gm 11 месяцев назад +1

    I always think anybody who is complaining about bans should just go okay Ubers or anyrhing goes, there no Pokémon are banned

  • @fluffybug229
    @fluffybug229 11 месяцев назад +2

    I remember learning about this pokemon and thinking "Oh! Assault Vest Tyranitar might be able to counter some sets!" And then I saw Vaccuum Wave.

    • @porgeporgeporge
      @porgeporgeporge 11 месяцев назад

      Do you mean Body Press? STAB Earth Power is like 1.7x stronger than Vacuum Wave against Ttar

  • @puffnstuff7905
    @puffnstuff7905 11 месяцев назад +1

    Not gonna lie, this ban might have been necessary. I was absolutely clapping other teams with a bulky calm mind set, once i got at least one or two cm's up it was basically gg lol

  • @tecul1
    @tecul1 11 месяцев назад +3

    nothing like skymin

  • @tarunyadav3567
    @tarunyadav3567 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hyper voice beats gliscor and clef anyways.

  • @shanegale6143
    @shanegale6143 11 месяцев назад +2

    "they voted no right?" very topical jim dont forget to vote next week or you get a fine

  • @imn_fauler6098
    @imn_fauler6098 11 месяцев назад +1

    People are talking about blissey and how rose to counter bloodmoon, but also rose to counter manaphy

  • @nameputhpong9041
    @nameputhpong9041 11 месяцев назад +1

    Extremely banned is so fucking hilarious.

  • @abtinbarzin8369
    @abtinbarzin8369 11 месяцев назад +4

    I don't usually pay attention to banlists (or competitive in general for that matter), but I feel in cases like these that it would be better to try a smaller ban first, no? Like if Ursaluna couldn't run Blood Moon on its moveset in OU instead of being outright banned, that way you're able to test if the Mon as a whole is the problem, or only a specific component of it.

    • @enderluckjarmg985
      @enderluckjarmg985 11 месяцев назад

      You think they would do it like they did with bascu and the grave dog but sht Im not a competitive player too so what do Ikr 🏳

    • @SPZ-gv2on
      @SPZ-gv2on 11 месяцев назад +12

      If you just ban parts of a pokemon it's debatable if it's even the same pokemon anymore. By the logic of banning the move blood moon, you could ban darkrai from using nasty plot or iron bundle from freeze dry. Unless a move or ability is CLEARLY broken by itself, the pokemon is banned. There needs to be consistancy for this, or tiering does not work.

  • @Boamere
    @Boamere 11 месяцев назад +1

    Darkrai could unironically go to OU

  • @gigalodon14
    @gigalodon14 11 месяцев назад +11

    Well yes, this might have been a quickban but I think it’s still better if we take our time with those bans. Walking Wake turned out to be pretty fine but back then everyone screamed for a quickban

    • @andrejg4136
      @andrejg4136 11 месяцев назад +7

      Quickbans are pretty much only used on hilarious steamrollers like Chi-yu and Ogrepon-H. Do we need to play 1-2 months of it breaking whole teams over its knees?

    • @AleXand4life
      @AleXand4life 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@andrejg4136Didnt it take a month for Chiyu to get banned? That thing damn near traumatized me 😢

  • @Geta92
    @Geta92 11 месяцев назад +1

    Blood Moon truly feels like the spiritual successor of Gen 1 Hyper Beam.

  • @clark5426
    @clark5426 11 месяцев назад +1

    B-Ursuluna has counters to Fighting by Fairy moves, counter to Steel by Ground moves, has recovery by Moonlight/Protect, can hit Ghost by Minds eye ability.

  • @Joshuaskehan-mk8cj
    @Joshuaskehan-mk8cj 11 месяцев назад +1

    This Pokémon is just so versatile at overcoming counters. Blissey? Tera poison/steel with cm or body press. Corv comes in? Bulky cm outpaces it with moonlight recovery. And the examples keep on going.
    Sure it does gave counters especially since it can only run one set at the end of the day so while it could counter one pokemon it is still weak to others, but if you pressure your openent and take out the right counters then its hard to stop.
    Very easy to finish a game with bloodmoon or come in early/mid game and blow away a few pokemon for other teammates. Requires too much to counter and it's very monoploizing.

  • @Zo3yX
    @Zo3yX 11 месяцев назад +5

    I really enjoy this pokemon design. Its strong yes but for what its suppose to be its should be strong

  • @isnanesavant
    @isnanesavant 11 месяцев назад +1

    Bloodmoon feels like another pokemon designed to speed up vgc matches but won't warp their meta game too much, but just be a perfect noob check that can make rounds go fast ala fluttermane chi yu
    Singles is an afterthought in terms of their design, but with moves like scald and recover it seems pokemon did care a BIT about singles

  • @tymunster
    @tymunster 11 месяцев назад +1

    BMLuna is just GSC Snorlax with an ability, special attack instead of attack, defense instead of special defense, and the best stab any normal type has ever had ever

  • @meme_lover.69
    @meme_lover.69 7 месяцев назад +1

    blud had *ASSAULT VEST* on his Ursaluna-Bloodmoon with *CALM MIND* ☠

  • @spiritblox1
    @spiritblox1 11 месяцев назад +1

    That title is wrong and you literally proved it in video what
    Also what is a doryuuzu

  • @Gold_Gamer_100
    @Gold_Gamer_100 11 месяцев назад +1

    Blood Moon Ursaluna is basically RBY Tauros with more overtuned stats, a boosting and healing move, a better and Safer Hyper Beam and can hit ghost types

  • @maskofthedragon
    @maskofthedragon 11 месяцев назад +2

    6am

  • @wigglytuffenjoyer
    @wigglytuffenjoyer 11 месяцев назад +1

    Very much deserved, this bear has been so haunting on OU, he may as well been Freddy Fazbear himself!

  • @ruok6506
    @ruok6506 11 месяцев назад +1

    A sun team ursaluna would be great since sunny day boosts and drought boost healing moves like synthesis moonlight and morning sun

  • @ronrich3k546
    @ronrich3k546 11 месяцев назад +2

    I think if they just put every mon in the game, we could have a really fun and broken OU metagame. Hopefully there wouldn't be as many bans to Ubers because there could be a lot more answers to some of the more broken mons. The idea of balance by picking which mons to keep in and leave out is a bit lazy if you ask me. Just give us ALL the options and let the games begin.

    • @andrewg254
      @andrewg254 11 месяцев назад +1

      Just play ubers?

    • @theschnozzler
      @theschnozzler 11 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@andrewg254I think he's talking about the dex cut limiting options

    • @gengarchan6986
      @gengarchan6986 11 месяцев назад +3

      nat dex ou:

    • @Nadid_Dhrabb
      @Nadid_Dhrabb 11 месяцев назад +2

      Bro thinks natdex ag is a balanced tier

    • @ronrich3k546
      @ronrich3k546 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Nadid_Dhrabb Never implied that. Clearly we would still have the tiers we have now (AG, UBERS, OU Etc) but maybe UBERS wouldn't be littered with mons that are only ubers because they are too strong against the currently available selections. To simplify it, make Nat Dex a thing overall, and we'll naturally weed out the extremely broken mons. This leaves room for a lot more counterplay, and hopefully a lot less bans.

  • @GoldGuard
    @GoldGuard 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great! Now I can finally play OU in peace🚫🐻

    • @mr.sandman7339
      @mr.sandman7339 11 месяцев назад

      If by peace you mean "continuing to play around Kingambit mind games to avoid getting reverse swept", yeah it's downright zen

  • @jimtsap04
    @jimtsap04 11 месяцев назад +1

    Gen 9 competitive keeps setting new records lol, I don't think anything even needs to be said at this point lol

  • @fortniteblevins7058
    @fortniteblevins7058 11 месяцев назад +1

    It was fun while it lasted, but no more fazballs 😢

  • @marioblaze2723
    @marioblaze2723 11 месяцев назад +1

    Damn never tought Nightmare Fredbear was this powerful

  • @Heartache1470
    @Heartache1470 11 месяцев назад +1

    The fact they gave this beast a healing move is nuts to me

  • @SpaceFrog999
    @SpaceFrog999 11 месяцев назад +1

    They need to add frostbite into the game, i am sick of special attackers

    • @Gold_Gamer_100
      @Gold_Gamer_100 11 месяцев назад

      Is that the status from LA that lowers Special Attack?

    • @SpaceFrog999
      @SpaceFrog999 11 месяцев назад

      @@Gold_Gamer_100 yes. I understand them not replacing sleep with drowsy, but WHO likes freeze, its so lame and its so separate from the rest of the statuses

    • @Gold_Gamer_100
      @Gold_Gamer_100 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@SpaceFrog999I don't think Freeze should outright be removed (though I wouldn't mind) but adding the Frostbite status sounds cool.
      Adding more counterplay to S. Attackers is always welcome

  • @dannyflintstone7003
    @dannyflintstone7003 11 месяцев назад +1

    It's like a reverse version of gen 2 snorlax

  • @idkputsomerandomname9657
    @idkputsomerandomname9657 11 месяцев назад +1

    Imo Darkrai should be allowed in Gen 9 OU

  • @keneor4468
    @keneor4468 11 месяцев назад

    Don't get me wrong. I'm a huge normal type enjoyer, my casual ass just loves the idea that thanks to tera I can run any mon I want into tera normal and use hyperbeam/giga impact because funi.
    But this ain't it, as much as I would like normal stab to be viable this isn't the way to go, what the hell were they thinking. It didn't need to be able to hit ghosr type, it didn't need to learn an extremely powerful and poorly distributed priority move. We can do better with normal stab. (Well first things first it kinda needs return to return but I wouldn't get my hopes up...)

  • @aidenwalsh4797
    @aidenwalsh4797 8 месяцев назад

    Just coming back to pokemon and this is an identical problem we have in Competitive EDH in magic. Some things are so good they coil around the meta and variety of gameplay and choke out creativity.

  • @ahaemsinghania8420
    @ahaemsinghania8420 11 месяцев назад

    I cant understand why ursuluna is UU but Ursulanuna - BloodMoon is Ubers. Both have good moves( facade, Blood Moon) Same type and Normal Ursulana has more power

  • @poppyfrancis7338
    @poppyfrancis7338 5 месяцев назад

    Its unsurprising to me that a special attacker with scrappy+keen eye and the second best special normal move behind boomburst would be so good

  • @Mammel248
    @Mammel248 11 месяцев назад +1

    I hear stickerbrush symphony I click like