even though I already know my way around the KO pretty good I enjoyed watching this _and_ learnt that playing samples more quickly makes the auto-slicing better and not the other way round! (and you get more extra seconds for more sampling!) Thanks!! :D
Might be difficult to explain here but, one thing I've learned with the PO KO was, to avoid sound cancellation on a slot during playback when theres a sound overlapping, I recommend to record samples sorted in four separated drum kits (say, slot 12, 13, 14, and 15) and sample Kicks and hi-hats in one, claps and snares in 14, congas in 15, as an example. Often, when you record a drum kit sample using one single recording, you cannot use a piece of that record into the same slot, otherwise sound will cancel each other. Since kick and hi-hats in a edit mode music creation structure probally won't be overlapped, pieces of that recording will be succesfully placed on separate slots without cancelling. The same will happen with snares-claps.
Thanks man! My buddy introduced me to PO's a few weeks ago and I just gave in and ordered a KO today. I'm trying to learn as much about the UI as I can before it arrives so I can hit the ground running as much as possible. This video gave me a lot of clarity for how these things are set up.
i'm so glad i found your channel. it's so cool to see a drummer walk through how he lays down beats and how you feel your way through ideas. thanks for making this!
Of course, if you wanna cheat a little, I think it’s more than possible to make separate takes of recordings, mix them together via video editing, and make songs that way when the usual method is too repetitive or limiting. I plan on doing it with a few of my future videos and songs.
Thanks for putting this video up and I'm aware it's a year old, but I was surprised you were programming in all the beats (write mode then using the grid as a step sequencer) rather than playing them in. If you know how you want the rhythm to sound you can just hold down the write mode button while the pattern is playing and play the sounds in. It's good for drums but really essential for melodies where programming them in one pitch at a time is the ultimate ball ache. For drums it also means you don't need to switch between drum sounds as long as they're in the same bank (and you are able to play whilst holding down write with a spare digit!)
This is a wonderful guide! You presented it clearly, quickly, and still thoroughly covered much of the system, and explained some real-world applications. I appreciate you!
I’ve had my Rick and morty po for a while now. Your videos would have been super helpful when I first got it. But even now they are extremely helpful. I honestly put it down, but when I found you earlier this morning, I’m getting the itch again. Still saving for my op1
Kind of cool that 36k people of the world have taken the first step towards taking their PO drums to the next level by watching this. Thanks for sharing dude
Cool video man, loved it ! I don't think you mentioned it, but if you old a step on the sequencer and tap BPM, you can makes rolls, and that's pretty cool 🙂
Finally own a po-133 and a po-128; so going thru these videos from you (and other PO using RUclipsrs) is muuuuuch more satisfying. Thanks for sharing/making this. :D
I definitely want to try one of these, my eyes are on the PO-20 atm... I'm also waiting the delivery of an OP-1, that's why I landed on your channel killing the time until I receive it. Keep it up man, your videos are great !
@@LiamKillen Always looking for inspiration. These devices are tricky. I'm from the era of cutting ✂️ recording magnetic tape and splicing 😲 Thanks for sharing your knowledge 😉
So happy you got some PO stuff out! I'd like to think my suggestion had a little something to do with it 😁 but further, I hope TE sent you all that stuff as a content creator! Cheers, excited to see what else you bring!
So do you have multiple banks with different drum sounds? Within a bank you can only apply one sound per slot. So I think some of the questions asked about "over writing" may apply to this. Hope that makes sense. If you only recorded multiple sounds to One bank, you would be limited correct?
@@LiamKillen I got laid off a week ago and am waiting for my last check plus severance. I'm taking a grand of that and getting a few affordable and portable items so Im always creating, taking field recordings, these will be fun! I don't care if they're toys, they're freaking awesome!!!
So, when you said "ANY" you mean "PO-3x". Could you solve the transfer with PO-1x and PO-2x series? Maybe the 2x6 JTAG connector on the back is applicable to change the patterns burned into their memory...
Thanks a lot! I just watched your video on op-z drums. That’s was so useful. I think you might have found something that lots of people need namely how to make the drums sound so great. Most youtubers focus on the sounds. When I do music my drums sucks I would say all of the time, so your content is very helpful. Thanks.
It's a bit of a shame it's all done in analogue, although perhaps that's a "philosophy" more than a practical idea. Cos if PO's could communicate digitally they'd be able to send digital samples without converting them to analogue and then back to digital again, inevitably losing quality. Would be nice, maybe not USB cos that's too conventional, but maybe a fast serial port over, like, a DIN plug. Or else an LED that flashes really fast and a nearby unit has a sensor, and an LED of it's own, so they can communicate that way. In the '90s, laptops had infra-red serial ports to communicate, with each other, and some printers supported it. It was the infra-red USB. Not much use as Wifi, tho, was only ever 1-to-1. The DIN plug I mention because it's something '80s computers had, and it's unused now, so would be perverse and quirky on purpose. You can get mini-DINs too so they're still practical. Or else, it could just use the existing audio in and out, and encode data into audio. Same was '80s computers did with cassette tapes. And then people would record those encoded beeps as sound and try and make tunes out of them! Anyway point is, needs a digital interface. I can see they're resisting having a PC connection and supporting software, that's against the philosophy too I suppose. I'd just go with LEDs, because they cost almost nothing, and to see an LED flickering lets you know it's working.
It lets you back up the full config via some weird audio-based data dump that I've not yet tried and restores from backup the same way. I assume that is done digitally with some error correction or the parameter changes would be too vulnerable to noise surely. If It is digital someone might be able to reverse it and generate a tool to create backups from scratch.
@@LiamKillen thanks for answer, i was thinking about sampling from fl studio, ni maschine, vinyl and smartphone/youtube. Second question is it possible to save final project on po ko 33 and play it after switch off and next switch on?
With ANY pocket operator? Or really just with the KO and maybe the Voice and the Rick & Morty? Don't forget that seven other pocket operators aren't samplers!
How do you select a sound, like before you apply it to a step on the sequencer? It’s just playing a random thing on each step instead of what I want it to.
hey man, nice video. thanks! and i got a question: your samples sound so clean, when you transferred them from the op. whenever i load samples from my daw or any other input via line, i get a lot of noise with it. usually i can filter it out but i wonder if there's anything else i could do?
@@LiamKillen welcome bud, keep up the great work. I'm into the pocket operator and MPC one videos. I also like the OP1 and Z demos. Do you have a Boss RC-505 or 202 video?
@@LiamKillen it's a pleasure, thank you! Really loved that drum pattern in pocket operator. I've seen a video by a Spanish guy who made some great DnB beat into it, and your video here let's be make a different style, but justiciary love the fill/bridge bits you demonstrated earlier in the video. Whether you meant to our not it got my creative this going and that's why I had to say thank you ♥️✌️🇬🇧☮️😎🎉
@@LiamKillenso many POs so little time. I like adding cool beats and stuff to bagpipe music… of all things. Added you on FB, I see you know a few local drummer friends of mine no surprise!!
That's weird that you have to play them "nice and quick" - I would think it would just register the sound waves and start them at a certain point based on some sort of algorythym (algorythym?? I did.)
Can anyone tell me how to record what what a PO is playing, like in this video? Is there just a mic off screen picking up the speaker from the PO, or was an audio interface used?
@@LiamKillen usually you can only play one drum sound at a time since it's monophonic, I've only been able to stack drum samples when I load them into the melodic slots
even though I already know my way around the KO pretty good I enjoyed watching this _and_ learnt that playing samples more quickly makes the auto-slicing better and not the other way round! (and you get more extra seconds for more sampling!) Thanks!! :D
Exactly! It’s a good lil tip- thanks for watching 🙂
@@LiamKillen Oh and may OP-1 get well soon.. poor thing :')
Thank you! It should be okay- i hope haha- still under warranty so should be fine.
fancy seeing you here... ;)
👾👾👾👾👾
Might be difficult to explain here but, one thing I've learned with the PO KO was, to avoid sound cancellation on a slot during playback when theres a sound overlapping, I recommend to record samples sorted in four separated drum kits (say, slot 12, 13, 14, and 15) and sample Kicks and hi-hats in one, claps and snares in 14, congas in 15, as an example. Often, when you record a drum kit sample using one single recording, you cannot use a piece of that record into the same slot, otherwise sound will cancel each other. Since kick and hi-hats in a edit mode music creation structure probally won't be overlapped, pieces of that recording will be succesfully placed on separate slots without cancelling. The same will happen with snares-claps.
Thanks for this!
I'm just getting into synths, and find programing drums to be particularly hard. Your beat boxing technique to lay down drums is amazing!
If you can sing it you can play it! Thanks for watching 🙂
If you have a thing for designing drums then go for it, otherwise it gets in the way of grooving
I watched a tutorial from Timbaland. He said that's how he starts every beat.
This is excellent! For us non-drummers, there's a lot of little things to pick up here, your instincts for how to develop a rhythm are awesome.
Thank you! I’ll be doing some more of these in the future 🙂
Yeah man helped me lots, cheers 👍
✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼
Hell yeah dude, your production value is going up up up!
Thank you!! 🙂
Oh boy, my Pocket Operator gods commenting each other.
bro this video was more informative than any other drumming video I've watched! thank you so much!!
Glad to help Diesal- cheers
Thanks man! My buddy introduced me to PO's a few weeks ago and I just gave in and ordered a KO today. I'm trying to learn as much about the UI as I can before it arrives so I can hit the ground running as much as possible. This video gave me a lot of clarity for how these things are set up.
So happy to hear that and happy to help! Cheers
Always saw these at guitar center never knew what they were great job explaining and walking through how to use one of these 🙏🏽
My pleasure! Glad it helps 🙂
i'm so glad i found your channel. it's so cool to see a drummer walk through how he lays down beats and how you feel your way through ideas. thanks for making this!
My pleasure! Glad you enjoy my drummerness!
Of course, if you wanna cheat a little, I think it’s more than possible to make separate takes of recordings, mix them together via video editing, and make songs that way when the usual method is too repetitive or limiting. I plan on doing it with a few of my future videos and songs.
I love how unusual your room is. Small, but with enormous ceiling height!
It’s also the cam haha- wide angle distorts a little
It’s always nice finding someone before they’re famous, can’t wait to follow you to that point!
Haha thanks man- we’ll see where this goes. I’m definitely not stopping anytime soon and it would be great to get to that point.
Apart from clearly explaining the programming this was also a great drum tutorial. Thanks!
Glad to help!
"If you can sing it, you can program it"👍. Most my beats start with humming and drumming.
yup!
Thanks for putting this video up and I'm aware it's a year old, but I was surprised you were programming in all the beats (write mode then using the grid as a step sequencer) rather than playing them in.
If you know how you want the rhythm to sound you can just hold down the write mode button while the pattern is playing and play the sounds in. It's good for drums but really essential for melodies where programming them in one pitch at a time is the ultimate ball ache. For drums it also means you don't need to switch between drum sounds as long as they're in the same bank (and you are able to play whilst holding down write with a spare digit!)
Thanks for your input!
This is a wonderful guide! You presented it clearly, quickly, and still thoroughly covered much of the system, and explained some real-world applications. I appreciate you!
Thx for watching!!
Very useful tut, especially the layered hits
You have a way of explaining in a simple cool way. Thanks
I’m glad it’s helping! 🙂
I’ve had my Rick and morty po for a while now. Your videos would have been super helpful when I first got it. But even now they are extremely helpful. I honestly put it down, but when I found you earlier this morning, I’m getting the itch again. Still saving for my op1
Awesome! I'm always glad to help!
Kind of cool that 36k people of the world have taken the first step towards taking their PO drums to the next level by watching this. Thanks for sharing dude
I always appreciate the love 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
that was so helpful to see how you were counting the beats.. makes a lot of sense
glad to help :-)
Cool video man, loved it ! I don't think you mentioned it, but if you old a step on the sequencer and tap BPM, you can makes rolls, and that's pretty cool 🙂
Did i know this? I don’t think i did. Thank you for this!!
@@LiamKillen Of course you know, you just forgot ! (i'll not tell anyone)
Yeah we’ll just pretend
@@LiamKillen 😁😁
0:36 just an overall general delight
😏
Finally own a po-133 and a po-128; so going thru these videos from you (and other PO using RUclipsrs) is muuuuuch more satisfying. Thanks for sharing/making this. :D
Thanks Nathan! Glad to gear it!
Love my PO 33 KO and... love this video! Love the drummer’s perspective. Thanks Liam.
My pleasure! Cheers
Yisssss!!! Do more of those man! I loved it! :)
Some more interesting ideas coming from this guy soon haha.
Great drum programming tips that would help any producer. Very nice!
cheers!
Cant wait to get mines, record into it as fast as possible, then pitch it down. It seems to give it alot of flavor
So funnnnn!!
I definitely want to try one of these, my eyes are on the PO-20 atm... I'm also waiting the delivery of an OP-1, that's why I landed on your channel killing the time until I receive it. Keep it up man, your videos are great !
LAlways! Thx for watching
following with your finger and counting out loud to do the programming is smart.
Essential!
I’ve watched a fair few of your vids, you explain things very well, me likey!
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Keep up the good work, Fella!
Always! Thank u ❤️
Awesome. Thanks. I think I’ll get the PO back out of the bottom of my bag now - cheers. Lee
Cheers Lee!
Killer kickstart tips!
Glad it helps!!
What a great tutorial, i don't own a pocket op, but the general tips and tricks i picked up in this video are going to be a tremendous help.
Glad to help! Cheers
Handsomest youtuber thus far. And makes music? Priceless❤😁❤
😊 thanks for watching
@@LiamKillen Always looking for inspiration. These devices are tricky. I'm from the era of cutting ✂️ recording magnetic tape and splicing 😲 Thanks for sharing your knowledge 😉
Clean, nice intro, also a drummer and into POs - instant follow!
Thank you! I’m working on a TE series in coming weeks which will include some PO videos. Also BIG giveaway! Thank you for subbing!
@@LiamKillen Excellent! Have you already "spread the word" in the Facebook group for POs or general TE stuff? Looking forward to your videos!
Thank you!
cheers.
Thank you for sharing.
pleasure as always!
This is fantastic. I am a complete beginner and this really helped.
So glad that it helped :-)
wow super underrated channel. well done!
Youngblood, you are like educational! Thank you!
Glad to help! lol
very cool tutorial, inspiring and effective. Thanks for sharing.
It’s my pleasure. cheers
Another slam dunk .. cheers indeed !
Cheerio
I’m so glad I found your channel.
Manuel! Glad to help! And thank u 🙂
So happy you got some PO stuff out! I'd like to think my suggestion had a little something to do with it 😁 but further, I hope TE sent you all that stuff as a content creator! Cheers, excited to see what else you bring!
They’ve been great! OP1 is busted for the time being- so more Po stuff coming for sure!
@@LiamKillen Yeah, that's sad. Is it going to Sweden for repair? I'd kind of like to see a video about the TE customer service/repair process....🤔
@@nocallnoshow6878 from what ive seen, its NOT GOOD
Very cool tutorial, thanks!
My pleasure!
So do you have multiple banks with different drum sounds? Within a bank you can only apply one sound per slot. So I think some of the questions asked about "over writing" may apply to this. Hope that makes sense. If you only recorded multiple sounds to One bank, you would be limited correct?
That is correct!
Thank you! Subscribed! 🙋
My pleasure Kale
This is awesome man. Can’t wait to try some of these tricks out
Thanks! Polish up those drums! 🙂
That's just great.
Thanks! 🙂
This is such a helpful video! I just am curious if getting a PO KO is best for live drums or if I should get the PO Tonic
Glad to help :-)
I enjoyed that. Thanks for sharing!
Anytime! 🙂
Yo Liam you just Killend it! 👍
Lolololol
Ok. Im getting some of these for going around.
Do iittt!
@@LiamKillen I got laid off a week ago and am waiting for my last check plus severance. I'm taking a grand of that and getting a few affordable and portable items so Im always creating, taking field recordings, these will be fun! I don't care if they're toys, they're freaking awesome!!!
Beat boxing like a true b-boy, impressive 👏
boom ta tikatika boom ta
AWESOME DUDE!
Cheers!
So, when you said "ANY" you mean "PO-3x". Could you solve the transfer with PO-1x and PO-2x series? Maybe the 2x6 JTAG connector on the back is applicable to change the patterns burned into their memory...
🤔🤔🤔
@@LiamKillen :D
Any news since then?
I don't think you could even do this stuff with the po-35, pretty sure it's just the KO
Thank you for knowing that was a bo didely fill. :) met him back in 2003. Nice man
That’s so awesome! Cheers
Dope!!! Love it man great tip regarding the beat boxing I never thought of that
If you can hear it you can program it!
Great tutorial. You should do more drum tutorials. How about how program the ”finger” sequencer on op-1? Thanks
ruclips.net/video/MBEL5zsoilk/видео.html Here ya go!
Thanks a lot! I just watched your video on op-z drums. That’s was so useful. I think you might have found something that lots of people need namely how to make the drums sound so great. Most youtubers focus on the sounds. When I do music my drums sucks I would say all of the time, so your content is very helpful. Thanks.
Thanks for watching! I do love drums
got the Huh-Duh Six-Hungeo's by old mate Sennie
oh noice
real good stuff. very helpful info. thanks bunches for this, sir.
My pleasure! Glad to help 🙂
You are seriously upgrading my game bro. Keep at it I love these videos as a newbie to op-1 po-33
Glad that they’re helping you out! 🙂
Its the fart sampler of the 2020s, a spiritual succesor to the Casio SK-1 of the 80s!
lol! You can sample fart noises into it if you want, yeah 😂
That beat is awesome
Thank you!
It's a bit of a shame it's all done in analogue, although perhaps that's a "philosophy" more than a practical idea. Cos if PO's could communicate digitally they'd be able to send digital samples without converting them to analogue and then back to digital again, inevitably losing quality. Would be nice, maybe not USB cos that's too conventional, but maybe a fast serial port over, like, a DIN plug. Or else an LED that flashes really fast and a nearby unit has a sensor, and an LED of it's own, so they can communicate that way.
In the '90s, laptops had infra-red serial ports to communicate, with each other, and some printers supported it. It was the infra-red USB. Not much use as Wifi, tho, was only ever 1-to-1.
The DIN plug I mention because it's something '80s computers had, and it's unused now, so would be perverse and quirky on purpose. You can get mini-DINs too so they're still practical. Or else, it could just use the existing audio in and out, and encode data into audio. Same was '80s computers did with cassette tapes. And then people would record those encoded beeps as sound and try and make tunes out of them!
Anyway point is, needs a digital interface. I can see they're resisting having a PC connection and supporting software, that's against the philosophy too I suppose. I'd just go with LEDs, because they cost almost nothing, and to see an LED flickering lets you know it's working.
It lets you back up the full config via some weird audio-based data dump that I've not yet tried and restores from backup the same way.
I assume that is done digitally with some error correction or the parameter changes would be too vulnerable to noise surely.
If It is digital someone might be able to reverse it and generate a tool to create backups from scratch.
Dont forget to swing your kicks too!
The whole beat swings together! 🙂
Good shit LK 👌
Thank you! 🙂
Do you have a video that simplifies getting your samples into the PO-33?
It’s super simple! And there are instructions on how to do it on the back of each PO
More po33ko content!!!!
I’ve got a few others here’s a playlist!
ruclips.net/p/PLE5yApCgtOwAyvfvMIGeFhzFX1dFSzGV7
Drum programming gave me a Streets of Rage vibe 🔥🔥🔥
🤜🤛
Bro, you’re a godsend. I swear since I got my po32 I thought I needed the software to import sounds to it. Thanks for this tutorial.
It’s my pleasure
very interesting , thanks
Pleasure- cheers
The distant future year 2024 checking in here, this video is still useful. Thanks!
Yayyy :-)
love it
❤️ 😊
do u think the bpm setting affects the sample "uptake" rate? like does it receive at that speed?
Good question! TBH i'm not 100% sure!
I thought the PO 33 wouldn’t let you put two drums in the same step. Is there a tip to getting the clap layered on top of the snare?
You'd have to load it onto a different kit!
@@LiamKillen makes sense, thanks for the pointer!
cheers
I think you can go max 4 samples deep as long as they're on different kits
Great video
Thanks Max! Cheers
DAMN nice!! i really wanna cop that rick and morty one!
Yes it’s funnn!
Could you make a slower video how to load sound on the pocket operator
Have you considered slowing down the playback speed?
WHAT A GREAT VIDEOOO
cheers!
I can't believe I've never thought of verbalising beats to make them easier.
It works so flippin’ well
@@LiamKillen game changer. Subbed for that alone!!
Very appreciated! 🤝
The brain is the most powerful sequencer :)
💪🏼
Hi. I have a question. Could i record sample sounds to po 33 from computer pc by jack tsr cable? For example sounds from fl studio?
yup! as long as it's got a 3 mm male adaptor you can record from any source into your PO 33
@@LiamKillen thanks for answer, i was thinking about sampling from fl studio, ni maschine, vinyl and smartphone/youtube. Second question is it possible to save final project on po ko 33 and play it after switch off and next switch on?
With ANY pocket operator? Or really just with the KO and maybe the Voice and the Rick & Morty? Don't forget that seven other pocket operators aren't samplers!
Yes, you can layer on any PO
@@LiamKillen seems to me that since the ones without a record function only have one drum bank that you can use for two layers, it’s very limited
There are limits for sure but the concept of layering exists on every PO
fantastic
Thx for watching :-)
How do you select a sound, like before you apply it to a step on the sequencer? It’s just playing a random thing on each step instead of what I want it to.
you can record sounds into it-
hey man, nice video. thanks! and i got a question: your samples sound so clean, when you transferred them from the op.
whenever i load samples from my daw or any other input via line, i get a lot of noise with it. usually i can filter it out but i wonder if there's anything else i could do?
I put the op1 drive down to 0, which seems to clean them up a little.
I subscribed… thank you for this! You got rhythm bro, lol 🙌🏾 #Salute
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Great video! You have yourself another subscriber ☮️✌️
Appreciate it! ❤️
@@LiamKillen welcome bud, keep up the great work. I'm into the pocket operator and MPC one videos. I also like the OP1 and Z demos.
Do you have a Boss RC-505 or 202 video?
I don’t! Thnks for watching 🙂
@@LiamKillen it's a pleasure, thank you!
Really loved that drum pattern in pocket operator. I've seen a video by a Spanish guy who made some great DnB beat into it, and your video here let's be make a different style, but justiciary love the fill/bridge bits you demonstrated earlier in the video. Whether you meant to our not it got my creative this going and that's why I had to say thank you ♥️✌️🇬🇧☮️😎🎉
Cheers!
Killen it
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Can you do blast beats or d beats with it?
They won’t sound authentic that’s for sure- unless you sample it
is it normal to always have a melody in the slots?
I’m not totally sure what you mean
the heavynes is probably from thge po 33 kos bbateries not being as full as the po 137
Yeah you're probably right.
Wow! He´s got the silicon case! He must be rich!
Rich AF !!
And the op 1
I’m like Bill Gates rich
Dude this video is sick. Thanks!!🙏🏽
(Had to rewatch it, trying to get my PO game up)
*Sees last comment was 3 years ago*
My guy - it's really my pleasure. Thank you for watching :-)
@@LiamKillenso many POs so little time. I like adding cool beats and stuff to bagpipe music… of all things. Added you on FB, I see you know a few local drummer friends of mine no surprise!!
🎉
❤️
That's weird that you have to play them "nice and quick" - I would think it would just register the sound waves and start them at a certain point based on some sort of algorythym (algorythym?? I did.)
I wish I knew what you were referring to but thank you for watching in any case!
Dotted 8ths big fella.
It will haunt me for life
Can anyone tell me how to record what what a PO is playing, like in this video?
Is there just a mic off screen picking up the speaker from the PO, or was an audio interface used?
Recording into my DAW and then syncing that audio to the visual
@@LiamKillen my man! Thank you! Excellent video :)
My pleasure 🙂
how did you not over write the notes?
I’m not sure exactly what you mean.
@@LiamKillen usually you can only play one drum sound at a time since it's monophonic, I've only been able to stack drum samples when I load them into the melodic slots
Yeah that’s a good way to do it for sure!