Flexing the stick - Wristshot, Slapshot and Snapshot - Complete Shot video 5

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    In this video I teach how to flex the hockey stick to get more power. The flex happens in the wristshot, snapshot and especially the slapshot to add speed and power to all shots.
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  • @dragster178
    @dragster178 9 лет назад +70

    I've learned so much from your last few videos. All hail Jeremy!

  • @thundersports3614
    @thundersports3614 9 лет назад +11

    Thank you, this was very useful especially the advanced way to shoot I will surely try that. This channel and howtohockey are like my online library of never ending hockey tips

  • @pt3682
    @pt3682 5 лет назад +3

    seriously, thanks coach, i try to use these brilliant advices,, never used composite stick before, and too stiff '85, but ya know hockey is the greatest sport ever.

  • @sloanmoore3453
    @sloanmoore3453 8 лет назад +32

    85 flex will do anybody good.. I'm now 27 and have played hockey my whole life competitively and have tried 75, 85, 90, 95, and 100 flex over the years.. The brands have different ratings for each flex.. For example an Easton 85 vs CCM 85 flex might not feel the same flex wise.. You also have to take into account kick points and figure out which that you like.. They say lower kicks is good for wrists / snaps and mid kicks are good for clappers.. I found this to be partially true.. But overall I found the 85 flex to be my favourite.. Over the past 4 years it's all I've been using and I've gotten a good feel for it. Find what you like and stick with it.. 👍🏽

  • @evandicks3762
    @evandicks3762 7 лет назад +9

    This video is the best thing that has ever happened to my shot! Thank you so much!

  • @J355UP21
    @J355UP21 9 лет назад +5

    Great videos Jeremy, thanks for spreading the knowledge to this "late bloomer!"

  • @thehockeyfreak6825
    @thehockeyfreak6825 9 лет назад +2

    Great video Jeremy. Although I know how to use the flex on my stick properly, it is awesome for guys looking to take that next step in their game. I won't lie this did help me brush up on wrister :)

  • @Wolf_The_Dentist_Stansson
    @Wolf_The_Dentist_Stansson 7 лет назад +36

    Who remembers the aluminum sticks? I remember rocking those in mini-tyke and tyke.

    • @benkeating3053
      @benkeating3053 3 года назад

      Easton aluminum

    • @Joshbrodnan
      @Joshbrodnan 3 года назад +3

      My dad still uses his because it’s the only thing he doesn’t break😂

    • @rydergreenslade4218
      @rydergreenslade4218 3 года назад

      I still have mine

    • @tysonkeenan4031
      @tysonkeenan4031 3 года назад

      I sill have my those where the bast

    • @Ravenzoom
      @Ravenzoom Год назад

      I used to have a blaster from the point with one of those. Now, I'm having trouble with my shots. Hence the reason I'm here after the 35 plus years of playing...

  • @MicBergsma
    @MicBergsma 4 года назад +10

    😄🙌🏼🙌🏼 if you ever come to Maui... play online hockey!

  • @zensema
    @zensema Год назад

    These videos are so good!

  • @lukerisser9163
    @lukerisser9163 5 лет назад

    big fan of this series

  • @2LTE__
    @2LTE__ 6 лет назад

    I just love your videos!

  • @basterisk
    @basterisk 9 лет назад +4

    Best shot instruction ever. I wish these videos existed when I was completely clueless and searching youtube for shot tutorials. But my shots still need a lot of work, so I'm still going to rewatch all these vids over and over until the principles are wedged deep in my cerebellum.

  • @brennenfisher6278
    @brennenfisher6278 5 лет назад

    Love the Kearny hockey pad at the park. Such a great place for ball hockey.

  • @JustinW71
    @JustinW71 9 лет назад

    Very helpful as a refresher of the fundamentals.

  • @bluejay337
    @bluejay337 9 лет назад

    Thanks for the video series

  • @nintendovspcuniverse
    @nintendovspcuniverse 9 лет назад +60

    problem is whn im on the ice and try to flex it it just slides from under me

    • @tehzelmo3633
      @tehzelmo3633 8 лет назад +2

      me too

    • @eerikkan13gas65
      @eerikkan13gas65 4 года назад +11

      You have to do the whole thing fast enough to get it work. Slower the thing is done, easier it slides under you

    • @tombarni6009
      @tombarni6009 4 года назад +4

      Teh and Nintendo, you might wanna try (perhaps first off ice) to put gradually more of your body's weight onto the shaft in order to get a good idea of how to flex the stick

  • @lah6iv146
    @lah6iv146 3 года назад

    thanks jeremy
    this helped a lot

  • @andyandbeyond
    @andyandbeyond 5 лет назад

    Great demo.

  • @blueboyz2342
    @blueboyz2342 5 лет назад

    Thanks for learning me to shoot. One more subscriber on you

  • @evanrandall1675
    @evanrandall1675 Год назад

    Thanks this was great I'd been having trouble loading up the stick on wrist shots

  • @nathanl8665
    @nathanl8665 6 лет назад +4

    Thanks Jeremy I tried this and I dented my nets frane

  • @doncorleone36
    @doncorleone36 9 лет назад +2

    Man I figured all this out on my own.. but it took a good couple years. Wish I'd seen this video sooner! Great stuff.

  • @revileno1
    @revileno1 4 года назад

    great tips

  • @userrnamenotavailabl
    @userrnamenotavailabl 7 лет назад +1

    Hi Jeremy, this series got me working on different components of my snapshot... It kind of worked in the garage but open ice was different. I found I had to simplify the shot and take a couple of the more finicky steps out. And found in games I almost never had the time to pull the puck towards my body so I took that step out. But after a lot of practice I found I got a good feel for getting the snap power/control from the top hand and now I shoot from the mid/toe rather than the heel. Wondering if the choice of blade curve has more of an influence than most people realise... Im on P3/E3/sakic/P92 but want to try something like the old Yzerman as I think the P92 is a bit too open. Which curve did you use for the video? And thanks for sharing the knowledge. (my experience is 7 years playing organised adult rec league if that gives some perspective)

  • @chevalfuret
    @chevalfuret 5 лет назад

    big thanks my friends

  • @thierrychaubet4400
    @thierrychaubet4400 6 лет назад

    Hi Jeremy
    Thanks for slap,snap wristshot vidéo .
    Does it the same mouvements in roller hockey ?

  • @anyutubenamesleft
    @anyutubenamesleft 4 года назад

    This guy is great

  • @FlanTVlv
    @FlanTVlv 9 лет назад

    Can u make a vid about choosing your first hockey equipment?

  • @mbmass
    @mbmass 9 лет назад

    Great video! One big thing you didn't mention though was make sure to keep your hands wide enough apart, which you do very well. If your hands are too close it makes it much harder to flex the stick.

  • @jesperandersson748
    @jesperandersson748 5 лет назад

    Your channel have help me so much thanks

  • @sillymitch8492
    @sillymitch8492 7 лет назад +1

    I watched this video a couple days before a game... had a Fricken bullet come off my wrist shot to the point where the goalie didn't move... and I hit the top 90 leaving me a bar down. I've notice my game get much better just taking some basic pointers and thinking about it while I'm on the ice! thanks Jeremy!!

  • @sukaboy00
    @sukaboy00 9 лет назад +1

    Jeremy what is the flex and kick point of that stick you use. Can you mention that in your videos in the future?

  • @swissfloorball3027
    @swissfloorball3027 8 лет назад

    nice video

  • @teezbar
    @teezbar 9 лет назад +1

    what other players do you know other than Phil Kessel :P jk love your videos man, learning a lot from them

  • @jackquinnes
    @jackquinnes 5 лет назад +2

    Could you say that a) a snapshot is always shot from the inside leg (weight on it) while b) you can shoot a wristshot on any of them. Is the differentiating factor, thus, in the length and quickness of the release before the actual eh release and follow throug (meaning you can do both from the inside leg but only the longer lasting wristshot from the outside leg)? Thanks in advance, coach.

  • @hasnakhan2436
    @hasnakhan2436 5 лет назад +3

    Coach Jeremy >> physics prof

  • @ericzhang9993
    @ericzhang9993 3 года назад

    this video is so gooda

  • @caseyjones3750
    @caseyjones3750 6 лет назад

    Damn Jeremy back at it again with the white Vans😂👌🏻

  • @lcrbelivo
    @lcrbelivo 7 лет назад

    Awsomme vid

  • @lukazcalls
    @lukazcalls 4 года назад +1

    Jeremy rockin the af1's lmao

    • @frostyyszn3979
      @frostyyszn3979 4 года назад

      yeah i knew i wasnt the only one seeing this

  • @adirtykid
    @adirtykid 9 лет назад +3

    Great Video, What video Camera do you use? Love the slow motion. Thanks

  • @TormodSteinsholt
    @TormodSteinsholt 9 месяцев назад

    Great video series, but was there supposed to be a video or article in the description about finding the correct stick flex for you?

  • @amanda_1021
    @amanda_1021 8 лет назад

    how do you determine what flex in the stick to get? Also, just curious where do you guys shoot these videos from?

  • @SuperCarrotKing
    @SuperCarrotKing 9 лет назад +1

    Thx man my slap shot is way better i wasn't pushing downwards on the ice i was just hitting the puck.

  • @mushkaleuppal7186
    @mushkaleuppal7186 9 лет назад

    Jeremy For so e reason even when I don't want to the puck flips of my stick and behind me.I'm a fast guy so if that happens on a breakaway then I'm screwed. So can you do a video on how to control the puck while at top speed or something like that. Thanks.

  • @nalsra0
    @nalsra0 8 лет назад +68

    I'm about 6'10 and I weigh 635 pounds, recommendation on stick flex?

    • @nalsra0
      @nalsra0 8 лет назад +16

      I'm looking into getting one of the Raven sticks

    • @JavierCespedes90
      @JavierCespedes90 8 лет назад +6

      +Blur Icy Are you sure you weigh 635 pounds?

    • @nalsra0
      @nalsra0 8 лет назад +16

      +Mustang12431 yes, just a little overweight, I'm 15 btw

    • @jimbo0o0o
      @jimbo0o0o 8 лет назад +48

      +Blur Icy Back when the NHL first began to get players that were 635 pounds and 6'10 they would take trees and basically use them. Since you are 15 you will grow to probably 8'9 so I say you find a tree around that height. I hope this helped, coming from a guy that is 7'9 800 pounds and uses a tree as a stick!

    • @BPoweredLove
      @BPoweredLove 8 лет назад +31

      +Blur Icy What about for me, guys? I'm about 7'7", 1165 lbs. Can I get info on stick flex too? I'm 12 btw.

  • @mikewong6004
    @mikewong6004 9 лет назад

    do you use a shorter stick for off-ice training?

  • @j.nicolasphillips3167
    @j.nicolasphillips3167 3 года назад

    Where, exactly, on the blade of the stick do you hit the puck? Center, toward the toe, or toward the heel?

  • @JonJon-sm2nh
    @JonJon-sm2nh 5 лет назад +1

    Hi coach Jeremy. My name is Gustavf from Brooklyn. I want to learn from the best.

  • @steelo136
    @steelo136 6 лет назад

    Something ive learned is that you dont drive down, you drive towards the net. The way your stick is angled, by pushing forward it has the right amount of forward and downward force.

  • @thetazchan
    @thetazchan 9 лет назад +2

    hey guys, great vid as always ! I'm 34 and started to play hockey(roller) a year ago I have a question about stick flex, I've read the guide, and according to that I should be using a 85 flex, (i weight 187 p ) but I still find it hard to flex, so as a begginer would it be better to use and intemediate 75 flex stick ? or would it be too weak for me ? thanks !

    • @danmackay9959
      @danmackay9959 9 лет назад +1

      Im similar in weight to you and have no problems flexing 85 flex sticks(which I use for ice hockey) but I still use a 77 flex for ball hockey. .. if I were you I would get a senior 77 flex.

    • @nathanielfitch5451
      @nathanielfitch5451 Год назад

      I am 112lb and I use a 55 and can flex it

  • @JudgeNaughtBand
    @JudgeNaughtBand 9 лет назад +1

    From a skating perspective, when you take the snap shot it looks like you have most of your weight to the outside so would a snapshot require the place to be on their outside edge?

    • @eerikkan13gas65
      @eerikkan13gas65 4 года назад

      Yeah, it is easier if you are on your outside edge. But it is harder to goalie if you shoot quickly when being on the inside edge because goalie wouldn't expect it

  • @tigerftw3408
    @tigerftw3408 8 лет назад

    Im 45kg and my stick is int about 70 flex bacause i cut it so should i buy a new on or just play with the 70 flex stick?

  • @ignasjakutis
    @ignasjakutis 9 лет назад +1

    Hi Jeremy , I cannot find a video , when camera is facing front , all videos about shooting technique are taken from a side of body . I hadn’t find any video on RUclips that explains shooting technique when the camera is in front .It is very interesting what angle i should lean on my stick and what level I should keep my shoulders.

  • @HotSauceStain
    @HotSauceStain Год назад

    Will a $70 Canadian tire CCM stick do this? I find I can’t do this flex technique, maybe with a slap shot only.

  • @arthurdelambre-hassenforde7016
    @arthurdelambre-hassenforde7016 6 лет назад

    Hello Jeremy ! I have a problem, everytime I tried to flex my stick on the ice with a snapshot, I lost my edge when I try to pull my weight on the stick. What is the problem ? Lack of shoulders/arms strengh ? My shots are okay but I'd like to give them more power. When I'm on the ground on a shooting pad, I can flex the stick with all my weight, but not on the ice, is it because I have more stability on my shoes rather than on my skates? Thanks a lot !

    • @n.b1956
      @n.b1956 5 лет назад

      Hem Popo lower your flex or bring the flex up and don't 'try' when I say that don't push down the stick if it's right for flex it will do that on its own and maybe practice on rollerblades if you want to improve your technique on skates

  • @vxfgcgvhbyuu
    @vxfgcgvhbyuu 6 лет назад

    how many sticks did you break while filming this

  • @BESTBULLDOGUSA
    @BESTBULLDOGUSA 6 лет назад

    What flex is stick used in video?

  • @seanthomas6421
    @seanthomas6421 5 лет назад

    At the beginning of the video you kicked out your right leg and used the stick to hold your weight. But at the end you stood on your right leg and put the weight on your stick. Which one is the "proper" way? I'm new to hockey but I think kicking it the right leg like at the beginning of the video would be best so you aren't hanging over to much after your shot and can keep up right to Attack the puck IF you missed

  • @_vexity_
    @_vexity_ 4 года назад

    I don't actually play hockey yet, but I find when I take slap shots it hurts both of my hands. is this just because I don't have gloves?

  • @cheesyballer
    @cheesyballer 6 лет назад +1

    Peep the afs on Jeremy what a beauty

  • @reereh502
    @reereh502 3 года назад

    How do u lift the puck while doing a clapper

  • @kyles_wrld3675
    @kyles_wrld3675 2 года назад +1

    I always feel like flexing it will break my stick😂

  • @jackslaten1882
    @jackslaten1882 6 лет назад

    Hi coach Jeremy my dad is Justin in the beach video

  • @josepheisan2151
    @josepheisan2151 3 года назад

    Just saying it is Potential energy into kinetic energy

  • @KeithWhittingham
    @KeithWhittingham 8 лет назад +5

    What's missing from this series is the back hand

  • @derickmarchand6390
    @derickmarchand6390 7 лет назад

    if I measure 5.7 and weighs 105 ? What lie I should choose between 5.0 , 5.5 or 6 ?

  • @hoksidablacksmith7428
    @hoksidablacksmith7428 5 лет назад

    At 2:56 why did you switch sticks?

  • @yaks2745
    @yaks2745 8 лет назад

    I use 85 Flex for my Easton Stealth CX, is that a sufficient amount of flex for me?
    I am 6'0 and 205 lbs

    • @yaks2745
      @yaks2745 8 лет назад

      ***** It feels pretty good, but I should move up in flex, I am still putting on more muscle mass so I may need more flex.

  • @luxcky
    @luxcky 8 лет назад

    Your video was awesome can you do won fore me my name is Nicholas Luxton

  • @bobbysmith6533
    @bobbysmith6533 9 лет назад

    What is the best street hockey puck for gravel street it is really annoying to have you puck bouncing around when you are trying to stick handle

  • @neilschanbusch7957
    @neilschanbusch7957 7 лет назад +3

    freezeframe + slow-mo always has such low quality :(

  • @jacksonreinke2713
    @jacksonreinke2713 5 лет назад +3

    2019 anybody??

  • @themuirs8491
    @themuirs8491 9 лет назад

    how come u use a different stick for shooting ?

  • @MiniBuscusYC
    @MiniBuscusYC 9 лет назад +2

    Jeremy Rupke i am having trouble lifting the puck on my slapshot

    • @ytgravitiys9861
      @ytgravitiys9861 8 лет назад

      +Mini Buscus i CANT LIFT IT EITHER HOW DO YOU LIFT IT ON THE SLAPSHOT

    • @ytgravitiys9861
      @ytgravitiys9861 8 лет назад

      +todd279910 I am 100 lbs and I got a 60 flex which is a little high but I got the right technique is a little extra flew make that much impact

    • @hockeyavenue2666
      @hockeyavenue2666 8 лет назад

      +Bob Bbnnbbnn get some knee bend and finish with your blade high also have some leg kick.

    • @ytgravitiys9861
      @ytgravitiys9861 8 лет назад

      Hockey Avenue
      ok

    • @Stonedzioba
      @Stonedzioba 6 лет назад

      so was i but try hitting behind the puck only an inch not a foot

  • @ytgravitiys9861
    @ytgravitiys9861 8 лет назад

    im 5'4 a 100 lb i take lots of slap shots do you recomend a 60,55,50,or 45 flex ?

    • @WhiskyBeard
      @WhiskyBeard 8 лет назад +1

      +Bob Bbnnbbnn Depends entirely on your strength. It's all about flexing it properly. So say a college player bench presses 200 pounds. He will have a better slapshot with a stick that has 80 flex than a stick with 95 flex, because he can properly flex the 80 stick. But a player who benches 300 pounds will have a better slap shot with a 95 flex over an 80 flex. You should try flexing different sticks to see what sticks aren't too hard to flex or too easy, and from that range, pick the one that feels the best.

    • @ytgravitiys9861
      @ytgravitiys9861 8 лет назад

      i am not that strong and my dad orderd a 60 flex instead of a 50 wich i told him will i still be able to use the 60 like normal

    • @MaximePilon18
      @MaximePilon18 8 лет назад

      50

    • @nalsra0
      @nalsra0 8 лет назад

      +PBirds76 it does not really have to do with strength, you just have to transfer your weight onto the side that your stick is on, and bob I recommend maybe a 60 flex stick, because if you get 55 flex or lower the stick will be too short. Go with the 60 flex

    • @snink778
      @snink778 8 лет назад

      150

  • @diehealing
    @diehealing 8 лет назад

    I'm 171 pounds what flex should I use to get a decent shot

  • @frostyyszn3979
    @frostyyszn3979 4 года назад

    are those air forces

  • @user-ee5cy3md1c
    @user-ee5cy3md1c 4 года назад

    2:00

  • @michaeleast4979
    @michaeleast4979 7 лет назад

    Can you do this if you have a wooden stick

    • @blacktuxedoes1312
      @blacktuxedoes1312 6 лет назад

      Electric Wild no lmao wood sticks don't have any flex capability dude get a composite

    • @elikedrowski6181
      @elikedrowski6181 5 лет назад

      Sure they flex. They're just heavy and a bit fragile

  • @user-kc8pj3cc8k
    @user-kc8pj3cc8k 9 лет назад

    Hi! I'm 6ft, 146 pounds, i use 80flex stick, but I could flex it only a half an inch. Should i go for intermediate stick (which will be too short for my height)? help me please

    • @TheSomeHockey
      @TheSomeHockey 9 лет назад

      Typical rule is to use flex half your weight. So you should be using a 70 or 75 flex

    • @adambusch4017
      @adambusch4017 9 лет назад

      Add an extention

  • @cucacook8478
    @cucacook8478 6 лет назад

    I am 9 4 foot 1

  • @swiszle
    @swiszle 8 лет назад

    Do you feel your stick flex when you are taking wristers and snap shots?

  • @Jaakkogaz
    @Jaakkogaz 7 лет назад

    I'm 12 and i didn't even know i was using the advanced way to shoot

  • @cameronminke8588
    @cameronminke8588 9 лет назад

    GOOOOO CANADAAAAAAAAAA,WEEEEEE ARRREEEEEE THEE NOOOORTTTHHHHHH

  • @baruerman224
    @baruerman224 8 лет назад

    im 150 i use 67 flex

  • @baileyjohnson9725
    @baileyjohnson9725 9 лет назад

    Sup

  • @hockeysnipes1853
    @hockeysnipes1853 8 лет назад

    I'm about 110 pounds and just got a int. 67 flex stick (I cut it so it's about 80 flex) should I go back to my old stick or just use this one? Because I don't want to waste that money

    • @CrazedGwonam97
      @CrazedGwonam97 8 лет назад

      +Deflections thats really stiff for you..maybe you could sell it or something?

    • @nalsra0
      @nalsra0 8 лет назад

      80 flex should work pretty well for 110 pounds, it will be a little stiffer but it will still get a little flex

    • @brandonnykyforak
      @brandonnykyforak 8 лет назад +1

      +Blur Icy Your stupid. 80 flex is way to stiff for him.....he would have to weight 160 pounds to be able to get just a bit of flex out of it.

    • @nalsra0
      @nalsra0 8 лет назад

      +Brandon Nykyforak calm down douchebag

    • @hockeysnipes1853
      @hockeysnipes1853 8 лет назад

      Everyone calm down I actually got a ccm tacks a couple weeks ago 40 flex. ( Ik its whippet but I really like it and I have gotten good shots off) so please just stop.

  • @professional7603
    @professional7603 2 года назад +1

    the flex of my stick is supposed to be right... but still when I do various shots, I dont feel flexing at all....anyone?

  • @BPoweredLove
    @BPoweredLove 8 лет назад

    What about for my nephew? He's 3'3", 45 lbs. What flex?

    • @alip82
      @alip82 7 лет назад

      10

    • @miningcharizardnew2073
      @miningcharizardnew2073 7 лет назад

      About 20 check out sticks from raven hockey they have special ones for kids

  • @jacksonritchie1620
    @jacksonritchie1620 8 лет назад

    would 205 to 210be about 85 or flex 90?

  • @calmcloughlin1763
    @calmcloughlin1763 7 лет назад

    Why do u use all the worst sticks

  • @cmonroe6027
    @cmonroe6027 8 лет назад +1

    My stick doest have a curve on the blade

    • @miningcharizardnew2073
      @miningcharizardnew2073 7 лет назад +2

      Gumball17 23 then u better drive to Canadian tire or something like that and grab one

  • @yaniszerkhfaoui8820
    @yaniszerkhfaoui8820 9 лет назад

    i'm 120 pounds so i should get a 60 flex but i'm almost 6 feet... so i gotta have a senior cuz the intermediate are to small and wippy, broke two of em the same day.. so my question is: i want a 60-65 flex but in à senior lenght, how could i get one?

    • @torinmcgonigal7833
      @torinmcgonigal7833 9 лет назад

      custom order bud at your LHS. 75 flex might work if your snapping them that easy. that's what Kessel Briere and Ennis use.

    • @yaniszerkhfaoui8820
      @yaniszerkhfaoui8820 9 лет назад

      tanks alot

    • @tannertatum7844
      @tannertatum7844 9 лет назад

      I have the same problem! I'm 6 foot and 115.

    • @nikokip2911
      @nikokip2911 9 лет назад +6

      tanner tatum go to mcdonalds and never leave until your weigh 150 pounds

    • @tannertatum7844
      @tannertatum7844 9 лет назад

      I eat you idiot

  • @maddox4542
    @maddox4542 4 года назад

    2019?

  • @zanderreacts5546
    @zanderreacts5546 7 лет назад +6

    Who's watching in 2017

  • @flaws4744
    @flaws4744 8 лет назад

    what is the best flex stick to get?

    • @nalsra0
      @nalsra0 8 лет назад

      Depends on your weight

    • @flaws4744
      @flaws4744 8 лет назад

      135 lol

    • @TuxedoPug
      @TuxedoPug 8 лет назад

      +flaws you want flex to be ABOUT half your weight in flex. in your case, about 60-70ish

  • @thomastanguay4334
    @thomastanguay4334 5 лет назад

    im 6'3 tall and I weight 135 pounds is a 65 flex stick okay

    • @hockeyfan888akajoker
      @hockeyfan888akajoker 5 лет назад

      Yes gain more weight though I'm 6'4 used to weight 170 now I'm 205 and now use my flex I prefer 95 over 80

  • @gangstagangsta9081
    @gangstagangsta9081 4 месяца назад

    I dont think this is true. It is a misconception that you push down on the stick but you dont. When you pull the puck toward you because your stick is back and your top hand is out your actually pushing forward not down