Ron Simmons and Butch Reed were two of my favorites coming up. That's when you had to look like you could kick some ass in real life to get over as a wrestler.
I loved Doom with Teddy Long, such an underrated tag team, their theme music was badass. Funny enough I used to think Ron Simmons was the older of the two simply because facially at the time Butch Reed just looked like the younger guy and Simmons looked like the seasoned veteran.
@@DoktorRockszo That was when Doom was with Woman-Love that Seger tune. Those 3 shouldn't have clicked, but damned if they didn't-just because Nancy Sullivan (Benoit) was so damned hot!
I remember that match..No one could beat Luger at the time when he had Harley Race as his manager,but when Luger lost I was happy to see Ron win the title...
Stormy Davis The Steiners were legit amateur wrestlers in college. I doubt when both of them were together they were scared of anything. I am sure they had a lot of respect for guys like Haku/Ming and Simmons but scared?
The Steiners were jocks. So were Simmons, Williams, Reed, etc. These were the kinds of guys they understood and liked being around. "Respect" doesn't always mean "fear."
I'm glad Jim put Woman over. She is the most sexiest woman ever to be in wrestling. My top 5 are 1. Woman 2. Sable 3. Trish Stratus 4. Sunny 5. Missy Hyatt What say you?
Butch Reed in mid 1985 was in the AWA, though he probably had an open contract. I remember this, because the first card I went to was in the summer of 1985, and on that card was "Hacksaw" Butch Reed vs. "The Claw Master" Baron Von Raschke. It was a great match.
Ron Simmons had one of the best gimmicks ever in the early 2000’s. Remember when he would stumble across something random happening and he would just say “DAMN” in that deep hard ass voice of his? Awesome tv. I think they could have done much more with that.
Saw the Steiners and Doom go at it a lot at WCW house shows in '89 and '90, those were always great matches. Just no bullshit, physical as hell matches. Good times.
Started going to the NWA shows in late summer/early fall of 1990 & saw Doom face all sorts of teams from the Rock & Roll Express to Sting & Luger. Also various members of the Horsemen. I was among the small portion of the audience that cheered loud for Doom lol.
Remember back in the day when Doom came on the scene as a pair of masked guys brought in by Woman to feud against The Steiners and along the way Steiners won the NWA Tag Team Titles from The Freebirds and they did some where Doom lost a match and ended up unmasking where they were exposed to be Ron Simmons and Butch Reed then they got brutal and winning the tag team titles from The Steiners with the help of Teddy Long and reigned for a good 9 months and having a feud with The Horsemen over the titles and having feuds with The Road Warriors as well . They lost the titles to The Freebirds in February '91 therefore the team breaking up and feuding with eachother with Simmons becoming a babyface . Always liked Doom . Just thought the masks were unnecessary cause they were 2 legit badass wrestlers that could kick the crap out of you .Would have liked to have seen a longer title reign out of them cause when they were champions they dominated the competition . Simmons was a legit badass and Reed with his feud with Junkyard Dog and the Ghetto Street Fight is legendary .
craig strachan like Corny said the masks were used because it wasn’t like either of them just showed at WCW. Individually they were placed way way down the card. It would have been tough to call them even mid-carders. Taking 2 guys like that and all of a sudden they are both super dominant in a tag team WCW had to do something to show they were different. That’s why they had the masks and since everyone knew who they were, why they lost the masks so quickly.
@@robschumann9665 Well good thing they lost the masks cause they weren't helping their cause . Iget the point that they were characters as Woman's tag team in a feud against The Steiner Brothers and whatnot and were involved in a feud with The Road Warriors as well but once the masks were gone they were awesome as a tag team and winning the titles .Obviously they weren't going to just walk in a dominate the tag team division of the bat . Had to pay their dues before the big push .
I remember like it was yesterday. I was just a month or a few weeks until my freshman year in high school when Ron Simmons became WCW champ. I was really excited for him.
I saw Doom vs Road Warriors at the Ft. Bragg arena. Ron Simmons attacked a fan ( or vice versa ) on the way out after their loss. I'll never forget all the MPs that came rushing in to break it up. I was the most excited 10 year old on Earth at that moment.
@@erictoniaschwab1009 I think the fan snacked him on his back on the way out and for some reason that set off Ron. He snatched him over the guard rail. It was so crazy and so long ago, I sometimes question if it really happened.
Tough guys in wrestling that can take or hold their own on with shooters...Simmons, Dick Slater, Dr. D Shultz, Hawk, Haku, Peter Mavia, Blackjack Mulligan, Rude, Harley Race. Maybe Race had some High School wrestling in his background if I remember.
Butch Reed is underrated grew up watching him in mid south some of the best matches I've seen in tag team wrestling was Doom vs the Steiners . Teddy long was hilarious with the team to what a great Hill they were
Didn't Steve Austin say that only Ron could have walked around in that ridiculous blue helmet and nobody would say a thing about it, he was not only intimidating but very well respected and if the Steiners don't fuck with u that means u r a total badass
Jim, Brian, thank you for taking my question on this week's Drive-Thru. (I'm sorry it was so long, I'll try to remember to keep it short next time I write in.) I was really happy to hear about all that backstory on Butch Reed, especially since a lot of people seem to kind of overlook him in a lot of cases, particularly his time in WCW with Ron Simmons. It's just nice to know that Butch's name is still kept out there among some of the great wrestling stars from Florida from that time period, along with other big names like JYD and Ernie Ladd. Thanks again for taking my question this week, guys.
One thing Ron Simmons never lacked--a KILLER INSTINCT! He always had a violent style in the ring, a legit tough guy out of the ring. I remember seeing Ron Simmons and Dr Death team once or twice in WCW, and I thought they were more badass than the Road Warriors
YEP! Ron was a BEAST in the ring. He made basic wrestling moves look LETHAL! His bodyslam, clothesline, dropkick, spine-buster, power-slam and pile-driver, all had Good Night written on them The explosive power he had, made them all look like finishers. As J.R loved to say "That will jar your innards" He accidentally broke Ken Shamrock's Ribs with a spine buster.....dam! Not surprised that the Steiner's would not mess with Ron. He was a SuperStud!
LOVED Ron Simmons! Doom were one of my favourite ever Tag Teams, and I loved his World Title run in 1992. I didn't mind the APA, what little I saw of it, but the Farooq Asaad character was just terrible!
There is a interview with Bradshaw about the formation of the APA. Says someone came to them and "they told us we want you to sit in the back and drink a lot of beer. Ron said..."that's the best idea I've ever heard" I didn't realize Teddy was managing that far back. See I remember him as the ref at first.
Man! You have the timeline of the Nation all jacked up. Lol! First incarnation was Cursh & Savio Vega. Then, when it became Black Power/Nation of Islam, Mark Henry was the 4th. Rock didn’t join till like a year later, when he was IC Champ.
Jim Cornette was the freaking man. I don't care what anyone says, he and Jj Dillon were freaking awesome. They were actually intelligent in their promos. Him weilding that tennis racket around was priceless. I love you Jim Cornette. Wrestling wouldn't be what it is without him.
Off topic, but The Nation was the best thing to happen to the Rock's career. I don't wanna say it literally "saved him" cause someone as talented as the Rock would've probably broken through the glass ceiling, but hey NOD might've just saved him. And if it didn't disband, it might've saved Owen too.
Doom was awesome. I missed the masked time period, by the time I saw them Woman was gone. I do think that WCW made a mistake by not putting the tag belts in Ric and Arn at least once - They deserved those belts
Butch reed was also doing rodeo and would take time off for that, which interrupted his career, more than once. That is another reason why he gets forgotten. I first saw him as a babyface, in Georgia and he was fantastic.
Hmm just had a thought that could have worked had the timing worked out, Doom vs MEX run, first w/ Woman, then Long picks them up and to make a name once they won the tag titles claiming they're the greatest tag team ever in front of COrny - BIG MISTAKE and leads to a run. I think it could have worked.
In a shoot interview, Brickhouse Brown says that he and "Iceman" King Parsons were sought out by Ole Anderson to be Doom but turned it down because they were on national television in memphis and making money. He also hated Ole Anderson which was part of the reason for turning it down. Of course, he considers it the biggest mistake of his career.
I miss the name Farooq but thanks to terrorists, WWE had to change his name to his real name Ron Simmons. When Farooq was the leader of the NOD, he definitely should have won the WWF championship.
The name Farooq only worked when he was in the NoD because of the Nation of Islam similarities. Otherwise, it was stupid and would only work as a heel unless he was actually Muslim. Though I do agree he should've won the WWF title in the NoD
And Ron also injured Johnson's knee. He kicked it so hard it bent backwards, had to get surgery on it. I swore as a kid watching their feud it was real static between them.
If you are listening to this and haven't heard the Steve Austin show with Mark Henry you need to. Mark said Ron is the only person he has ever been scared of. That is huge praise from a man who was one of the strongest people on the planet at one time.
@@dertwerk-bossoftheundrwrld8090 It's actually not. A whole bunch of American slang originally does come from the Bay Area but I dont think this is one of them. It's a really old term that has roots in other places. Here is an article on it. www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2018/05/wolf-tickets.html
It bugs me that if Dan Severen had been wrestling literally any other time than when he was in the WWF he probably would have got over much more. Like think about it before that shooters tended to get over in some territory and they built Brock Lesnar partly on his UFC record when he came back. Timing really is everything.
I only watched WWF as a kid in the 80's and 90's so I didn't really see Ron Simmons until he was Farooq later, but one thing that always struck me about him was that he just looked like a badass, like a guy you wouldn't want to mess with. Not only was he obviously pretty well-built, but he just had a kinda "mean look" to him, lol.
Yes but let's be serious the Master Blaster's where just glorified jobbers I know Nash made it big but what happened to the other one what ever his name was.
I have doom Number 4 of all Times,,, I know how good the midnight express was at 8, ( first us , world) and about the belts , Doom was a dominant World Tag Team with Teddy Long, ... Back to Roh ,, see big men are important to have .....
I don't agree with Jim's assessment of the Skyscrapers. Spivey's shit looked much better than Sid's. How, Sid is the one who got over because of his look. That's just my opinion. Incidentally, Cornette's podcasts are the best.
Doom is still so underrated & wish they could have lasted a bit longer as team & had another Tag Title run or 2. Although I know Butch Reed was worse for wear with knees etc.
I'm not having a hard time believing this at all. He was a freak of nature. I could look at him in the ring and tell in real life he was a force to be reckoned with.
I'm certain that Simmons-Ahmed story is wrong. When Simmons made his WWF debut on RAW, he kicked Ahmed while he was on the floor and messed up his kidney. He was out for several months and had to vacate the IC title. If Ahmed injured Ron after he came back, I'm not aware of it. But Ron injured Ahmed his first night in. That was in late summer 1996, and Ahmed didn't leave the company until early 1998.
From WIKI on Ranger Ross.... In February 1996, Ross was arrested at his home in Acworth and formally charged with bank robbery as the "Motorcycle Bandit", an unidentified man who made his escape on a Honda motorcycle. Following the robbery of a bank in downtown Acworth, Ross surrendered to federal agents on February 9.[16]
Whoever is drawing these caricatures are awesome. They are insanely good.
I would love to have any of these drawings as a shirt
Insanely funny too
Underdog, put that on a t-shirt!!
Travis Heckel..
His or her brother love drawing is 😂😂😂😂
Ron Simmons and Butch Reed were two of my favorites coming up. That's when you had to look like you could kick some ass in real life to get over as a wrestler.
WHAT?! you don't think they haven't used baby oil to get out of holds?!
The thing is they could kick a lot of asses in real life.
I met them in Mobile AL at Expo Hall with Woman when I was a kid. Even when they were heels, Simmons was the nicest guy to a random kid ever.
I loved Butch Reed and Ron Simmons back in the day
So no orange Cassidy? Lmao
"Why can't we let people be themselves?"
Because Vince can't trademark "Ron Simmons"
& because Vince didn't create Ron Simmons.
at least he didn't have polka dots.
since former WORLD CHAMPIONS got polka dots...
@@Gravydog316 ;-----)
well change the name not the charecter
@@Gravydog316 but he was a gladiator....a black gladiator
@@madddoggnogood1491 with a blue plastic helmet...
Butch Reed's face turn against Buddy Landell and Skandaar Akbar in Mid South was awesome.
;-------------)
I saw that for the first time a few years ago, and man, Bill Watts was such a great booker. Virtually no-one gets good storytelling anymore.
Both of them guys need to be in the Hall of Fame Ron Simmons and Butch Reed
Butch had some great matches with Jim Neidhart in Mid-South as well.
I loved Doom with Teddy Long, such an underrated tag team, their theme music was badass. Funny enough I used to think Ron Simmons was the older of the two simply because facially at the time Butch Reed just looked like the younger guy and Simmons looked like the seasoned veteran.
If you didn't know, their theme was basically "Her Strut" by Bob Seger.
Used to love hear Gary Michael Cappetta say "Soul Brother Ron Simmons! Soul Brother Butch Reed! The team of Doooooom!"
@@DoktorRockszo That was when Doom was with Woman-Love that Seger tune. Those 3 shouldn't have clicked, but damned if they didn't-just because Nancy Sullivan (Benoit) was so damned hot!
The funny part about that is it seems like butch probably had 5+ years experience over ron.
Shank Montgomery
Eight years. Though the age difference was only four.
Lex Luger vs Ron Simmons fued in the 90s was near n dear to my childhood heart. Cultivated to Ron beating Lex for the title. Good stuff...
I remember that match..No one could beat Luger at the time when he had Harley Race as his manager,but when Luger lost I was happy to see Ron win the title...
Ron beat Vader for the WCW title not Luger
Ron never beat Lex for the title.....
Redacted: ron didnt beat em
@@thetreblerebel lol.... Its all good .
Rick & Scott WERE scared of Simmons, along with Doc and Meng, they were friends but the Steiners were smart enough not to screw with certain people.
Stormy Davis The Steiners were legit amateur wrestlers in college. I doubt when both of them were together they were scared of anything. I am sure they had a lot of respect for guys like Haku/Ming and Simmons but scared?
I wouldn't say scared. But they were just looking to rib in a bully type of way. And ribbing ron would be a fucking problem
The Steiners were jocks. So were Simmons, Williams, Reed, etc. These were the kinds of guys they understood and liked being around. "Respect" doesn't always mean "fear."
And don't forget Butch Reed.
"Got over like a fart in church"...gotta love corny🤣🤣🤣
I'm glad Jim put Woman over. She is the most sexiest woman ever to be in wrestling. My top 5 are
1. Woman
2. Sable
3. Trish Stratus
4. Sunny
5. Missy Hyatt
What say you?
Butch Reed in mid 1985 was in the AWA, though he probably had an open contract. I remember this, because the first card I went to was in the summer of 1985, and on that card was "Hacksaw" Butch Reed vs. "The Claw Master" Baron Von Raschke. It was a great match.
Hearing him talk about Doom and Nancy really makes me wanna a WWE produced Woman tribute. Lots of good memories there.
Ron Simmons had one of the best gimmicks ever in the early 2000’s. Remember when he would stumble across something random happening and he would just say “DAMN” in that deep hard ass voice of his? Awesome tv. I think they could have done much more with that.
THAT WAS STUPID
He was already done wrestling then. The whole reason the APA broke up the second time was for him to retire.
"in that deep hard ass" you said
Saw the Steiners and Doom go at it a lot at WCW house shows in '89 and '90, those were always great matches. Just no bullshit, physical as hell matches. Good times.
With 2 of the best tag teams, that should have been expected!
Started going to the NWA shows in late summer/early fall of 1990 & saw Doom face all sorts of teams from the Rock & Roll Express to Sting & Luger. Also various members of the Horsemen. I was among the small portion of the audience that cheered loud for Doom lol.
Remember back in the day when Doom came on the scene as a pair of masked guys brought in by Woman to feud against The Steiners and along the way Steiners won the NWA Tag Team Titles from The Freebirds and they did some where Doom lost a match and ended up unmasking where they were exposed to be Ron Simmons and Butch Reed then they got brutal and winning the tag team titles from The Steiners with the help of Teddy Long and reigned for a good 9 months and having a feud with The Horsemen over the titles and having feuds with The Road Warriors as well . They lost the titles to The Freebirds in February '91 therefore the team breaking up and feuding with eachother with Simmons becoming a babyface . Always liked Doom . Just thought the masks were unnecessary cause they were 2 legit badass wrestlers that could kick the crap out of you .Would have liked to have seen a longer title reign out of them cause when they were champions they dominated the competition . Simmons was a legit badass and Reed with his feud with Junkyard Dog and the Ghetto Street Fight is legendary .
craig strachan like Corny said the masks were used because it wasn’t like either of them just showed at WCW. Individually they were placed way way down the card. It would have been tough to call them even mid-carders. Taking 2 guys like that and all of a sudden they are both super dominant in a tag team WCW had to do something to show they were different. That’s why they had the masks and since everyone knew who they were, why they lost the masks so quickly.
@@robschumann9665 Well good thing they lost the masks cause they weren't helping their cause . Iget the point that they were characters as Woman's tag team in a feud against The Steiner Brothers and whatnot and were involved in a feud with The Road Warriors as well but once the masks were gone they were awesome as a tag team and winning the titles .Obviously they weren't going to just walk in a dominate the tag team division of the bat . Had to pay their dues before the big push .
Doom is one of my favorite tag teams in wcw/nwa history! Love hearing these stories and insights from Jim Cornette.
Damn, this episode gave me the urge to watch some Mid-South rasslin'.
....I wish I could see Ron Simmons vs Stan Hansen in a match in both in Japan and the USA; especially Texas or Georgia/Florida.
Doom! One of my favorite tag teams back in the day.
Ron Simmons had one of the BEST natural physiques of anyone! People say he rarely lifted weights!
He was such a gifted athlete. I don’t know anyone else that could have had a 275 pound physique of all muscle with a diet of beer lol
He had that Apex predator slave DNA
I remember like it was yesterday. I was just a month or a few weeks until my freshman year in high school when Ron Simmons became WCW champ. I was really excited for him.
I saw Doom vs Road Warriors at the Ft. Bragg arena. Ron Simmons attacked a fan ( or vice versa ) on the way out after their loss. I'll never forget all the MPs that came rushing in to break it up. I was the most excited 10 year old on Earth at that moment.
Julez John My goodness Army MP’s, Doom and the LOD sounds like a powder keg!
@@erictoniaschwab1009 Hell yeah! I told the entire school about it the next day. It was insane
@@erictoniaschwab1009 I think the fan snacked him on his back on the way out and for some reason that set off Ron. He snatched him over the guard rail. It was so crazy and so long ago, I sometimes question if it really happened.
I got to see Ron's first match in Florida. He started in a tag team with a guy named Dewey Forte, who passed away a few years ago.
Flamethrower Fluf Salisbury Dewey was in Wild West Wrestling too
I remember that! Dewey Forte was a football player in the USFL and with the Dolphins for a cup of coffee.
Saw it too
Met Mr Simmons at fan axxess in Orlando for WrestleMania. Very awesome experience asking him questions about his time at FSU ( I’m a FSU grad)
Tough guys in wrestling that can take or hold their own on with shooters...Simmons, Dick Slater, Dr. D Shultz, Hawk, Haku, Peter Mavia, Blackjack Mulligan, Rude, Harley Race. Maybe Race had some High School wrestling in his background if I remember.
Bad News Brown. He was a judo expert that competed in the Olympics. And he challenged Andre the Giant to a legit fight.
True
No , Race learned how to hook in the circus .
@@pooddescrewch8718 really? I never knew that.
Butch Reed is underrated grew up watching him in mid south some of the best matches I've seen in tag team wrestling was Doom vs the Steiners . Teddy long was hilarious with the team to what a great Hill they were
Ron Simmons was always a favorite of mine. I wish he'd have gotten bigger spots.
He was in World title matches from 1991 through 1998 in the two biggest companies in the hottest decade in wrestling history...
Didn't Steve Austin say that only Ron could have walked around in that ridiculous blue helmet and nobody would say a thing about it, he was not only intimidating but very well respected and if the Steiners don't fuck with u that means u r a total badass
Jim, Brian, thank you for taking my question on this week's Drive-Thru. (I'm sorry it was so long, I'll try to remember to keep it short next time I write in.) I was really happy to hear about all that backstory on Butch Reed, especially since a lot of people seem to kind of overlook him in a lot of cases, particularly his time in WCW with Ron Simmons. It's just nice to know that Butch's name is still kept out there among some of the great wrestling stars from Florida from that time period, along with other big names like JYD and Ernie Ladd.
Thanks again for taking my question this week, guys.
the partner of Ray Candy in the commandos was called in the WWC " Grizzly Boone".
No relation with Brady?
I love this period of time in the NWA as well!
One thing Ron Simmons never lacked--a KILLER INSTINCT! He always had a violent style in the ring, a legit tough guy out of the ring. I remember seeing Ron Simmons and Dr Death team once or twice in WCW, and I thought they were more badass than the Road Warriors
Doc and Ron would destroy the Road Warriors in a shoot
YEP! Ron was a BEAST in the ring.
He made basic wrestling moves look LETHAL!
His bodyslam, clothesline, dropkick, spine-buster,
power-slam and pile-driver, all had Good Night written on them
The explosive power he had, made them all look like finishers.
As J.R loved to say "That will jar your innards"
He accidentally broke Ken Shamrock's Ribs with a spine buster.....dam!
Not surprised that the Steiner's would not mess with Ron.
He was a SuperStud!
LOVED Ron Simmons! Doom were one of my favourite ever Tag Teams, and I loved his World Title run in 1992. I didn't mind the APA, what little I saw of it, but the Farooq Asaad character was just terrible!
Butch Reed promo on dark journey is a you tube classic.
There is a interview with Bradshaw about the formation of the APA. Says someone came to them and "they told us we want you to sit in the back and drink a lot of beer. Ron said..."that's the best idea I've ever heard"
I didn't realize Teddy was managing that far back. See I remember him as the ref at first.
You should see the Table For 3 with the APA on the Network.
Man! You have the timeline of the Nation all jacked up. Lol!
First incarnation was Cursh & Savio Vega.
Then, when it became Black Power/Nation of Islam, Mark Henry was the 4th. Rock didn’t join till like a year later, when he was IC Champ.
Jim Cornette was the freaking man. I don't care what anyone says, he and Jj Dillon were freaking awesome. They were actually intelligent in their promos. Him weilding that tennis racket around was priceless. I love you Jim Cornette. Wrestling wouldn't be what it is without him.
Butch Reed is underrated and was great on the stick.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪🏾🏋🏾🏅
Off topic, but The Nation was the best thing to happen to the Rock's career. I don't wanna say it literally "saved him" cause someone as talented as the Rock would've probably broken through the glass ceiling, but hey NOD might've just saved him. And if it didn't disband, it might've saved Owen too.
off topic, but the sky is blue.
Off topic but Stone Cold was a better gimmick than The Ringmaster. Not necessarily the most popular opinion but there you go.
+Ciarran Murren Damn we are super snarky today 😂😂😂. Oh well, somebody gotta be Captain Obvious sometimes 😂
+John Baird Speak for yourself. Ringmaster with Ted was the GOAT 😂
+Gorilla of Destiny That Rolex gift segment was incredible. The whole slow burn turn on Farooq with Rock usurping his power bit by bit was so good.
Ron Simmons is a beast, and a great guy! Always my favorite black wrestler
Doom was awesome. I missed the masked time period, by the time I saw them Woman was gone. I do think that WCW made a mistake by not putting the tag belts in Ric and Arn at least once - They deserved those belts
Butch reed was also doing rodeo and would take time off for that, which interrupted his career, more than once. That is another reason why he gets forgotten. I first saw him as a babyface, in Georgia and he was fantastic.
Doom was an awesome tag team. They were split up way too early.
Best spinebuster in the business
Never seen Arn Anderson then?
@@mathewbarrie9149 only at flair vs undertaker at WrestleMania 18 when he delivered one to undy
Hmm just had a thought that could have worked had the timing worked out, Doom vs MEX run, first w/ Woman, then Long picks them up and to make a name once they won the tag titles claiming they're the greatest tag team ever in front of COrny - BIG MISTAKE and leads to a run. I think it could have worked.
Doom is still one of my favorite tag teams all around...
In a shoot interview, Brickhouse Brown says that he and "Iceman" King Parsons were sought out by Ole Anderson to be Doom but turned it down because they were on national television in memphis and making money. He also hated Ole Anderson which was part of the reason for turning it down. Of course, he considers it the biggest mistake of his career.
The Natural Butch Reed
I loved the old WCW in the 80's
Doom was awesome - but.. I feel that WCW goofed in not giving WCW Tag belts to Ric / Arn once... Doom could have regained them back
I miss the name Farooq but thanks to terrorists, WWE had to change his name to his real name Ron Simmons. When Farooq was the leader of the NOD, he definitely should have won the WWF championship.
The name Farooq only worked when he was in the NoD because of the Nation of Islam similarities. Otherwise, it was stupid and would only work as a heel unless he was actually Muslim. Though I do agree he should've won the WWF title in the NoD
Jim and brian, keep up the great work!!!👍
It was Ahmed who got his kidney lacerated... not sure how Mark got that story turned around like that.
well he eats shit sandwiches so he isnt the smartest guy
It was a receipt for Ahmed being stiff with everyone
That's correct it was Ahmed who got injured.
when he repeated that it didn’t click with me
And Ron also injured Johnson's knee. He kicked it so hard it bent backwards, had to get surgery on it. I swore as a kid watching their feud it was real static between them.
Unfuckwithable
Doom and L.O.D. best 80's tag teams ever more badass dudes never looked so damn strong and legit
We gotta add Steiner Brothers to that.
@@dang2320 my bad 3rd team is definitely needed
If you are listening to this and haven't heard the Steve Austin show with Mark Henry you need to. Mark said Ron is the only person he has ever been scared of. That is huge praise from a man who was one of the strongest people on the planet at one time.
Ron is a amazing guy !!! Just a amazing guy to hang with and be out with. Jim is right, they f'd with Ron at wwf at first .
Excellent video, I appreciate the story.
Ron Simmons should have been the Ron Simmons WCW Champion in WWE. He was a stud dominating wrestlers. Vince why with the "DAM" gimmick. It was boring.
Faarooq was over... after dropping the plastic blue gladiator outfit
Gravydog316, yes he was over but not at level of the Ron Simmons character.
uh...because ron couldn't talk to save his life.
Yes I thought of Nick Diaz when Jim said “Wolf tickets” too
Adam Brian Jones that’s Bay Area terminology
@@dertwerk-bossoftheundrwrld8090 It's actually not. A whole bunch of American slang originally does come from the Bay Area but I dont think this is one of them. It's a really old term that has roots in other places. Here is an article on it.
www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2018/05/wolf-tickets.html
Explain to the folks at home who the Zambuie Express were.
They were part of Paul Jones army and i think they wrestled at Starrcade 84 or 85
Love 2 hear jimmy rant on jim herd🤣🤣🤣
THUMBNAIL PICTURE
RON SIMMONS
HAS PROBABLY DONE THAT
TO SOMEONE AT LEAST ONCE
The artist of the thumbnail is pretty damn good.
I loved Ranger Ross as a kid.
I had such a crush on Woman. She was so smoking hot back then.
ANS NOW SHES IN A GRAVE.
The Commandos were Ray Candy and Grizzly Boone
It bugs me that if Dan Severen had been wrestling literally any other time than when he was in the WWF he probably would have got over much more. Like think about it before that shooters tended to get over in some territory and they built Brock Lesnar partly on his UFC record when he came back. Timing really is everything.
You "Don't Step to Ron!"
I have all the respect for this guy he was and still is a powerhouse.
I would hate to see anyone take his beer from him..lol
I only watched WWF as a kid in the 80's and 90's so I didn't really see Ron Simmons until he was Farooq later, but one thing that always struck me about him was that he just looked like a badass, like a guy you wouldn't want to mess with. Not only was he obviously pretty well-built, but he just had a kinda "mean look" to him, lol.
Butch Reed was Stone Cold before Steve Austin
I say Bad News Brown was
The Skyscrapers were better than the Master Blasters 🤣
Yes but let's be serious the Master Blaster's where just glorified jobbers I know Nash made it big but what happened to the other one what ever his name was.
I think he worked for WCW long after that..and I'm pretty sure he worked at the Power Plant too
Which version takers or sid?
@@romierome8385 Taker and Sid to me would of been a better version Sky Scrapers.
That's a pretty low bar, ese.
There needs to be a Dark Side of The Ring episode on Jim Herd. That would be really interesting.
U wouldn't be able to hear any of Jim's thoughts on him. They would have to bleep out all of the curse words
I have doom Number 4 of all Times,,, I know how good the midnight express was at 8, ( first us , world) and about the belts , Doom was a dominant World Tag Team with Teddy Long, ... Back to Roh ,, see big men are important to have .....
just the pure level of disdain when he said, "creative services". lmao i agree, wwf really sucks at creating a lot of characters.
1989 NWA was crazy, when you had Gilbert & Sullivan as your booking committee.
Doom,Road Warriors ,Steiner Brother's & British Bulldogs the most popular tag teams ever imo
Great Shoot Today Jim!!😎🐐🐐
Got over like a fast in church...oh holy shit the bed that's funny!!
you botched the message
I did. Holy shit the bed I did
It's a fart in church not a fast in church
Yes a "fart" in church...I botched the message holy shit the bed granny I botched the message...fasting does not go over well in church either though
This is one of your best podcasts.
Always liked Doom. Simmons & Reed we're awesome.
Travis Heckel, bravo!
Iceman Parsons & Brickhouse Brown The Blackbirds were supposed to be Doom originally
That would have been a bad ass tag team even if Parsons was the worst member of the free birds
I don't agree with Jim's assessment of the Skyscrapers. Spivey's shit looked much better than Sid's. How, Sid is the one who got over because of his look. That's just my opinion. Incidentally, Cornette's podcasts are the best.
Farooq - Nation Of Domination 👨🏾
Doom was Bad ass
Doom is still so underrated & wish they could have lasted a bit longer as team & had another Tag Title run or 2. Although I know Butch Reed was worse for wear with knees etc.
DAMN!
I'm not having a hard time believing this at all. He was a freak of nature. I could look at him in the ring and tell in real life he was a force to be reckoned with.
Have Doom number 4 and they both get their day as singles wrestler.....
Only thing about that thumbnail.... Nobody's ducttaping Butch Reed to a wall lol.....
Doom was the shit
Ron Simmons!
Dam!
I really was a big fan of Teddy Long and Doom!!!
Idk what scott hall was doing in 89 but i think he woulda been a better choice 2 team w sid 4 the Skyscrapers
I could be wrong but I think he was in Japan or Puerto Rico
@@matthewjenkins7488 Hall was in the NWA/WCW in 89 as "Gator" Scott Hall.
I always felt like the Farooq Asad outfit was an inside joke based on the Ric Flair Spartacus thing.
Brian talking about how talented Missy Hyatt was made me chuckle about what she is very well known for being talented at. Paying lip service.
What a clusterfuck of a booking committee, just past around
I'm certain that Simmons-Ahmed story is wrong. When Simmons made his WWF debut on RAW, he kicked Ahmed while he was on the floor and messed up his kidney. He was out for several months and had to vacate the IC title. If Ahmed injured Ron after he came back, I'm not aware of it. But Ron injured Ahmed his first night in. That was in late summer 1996, and Ahmed didn't leave the company until early 1998.
From WIKI on Ranger Ross.... In February 1996, Ross was arrested at his home in Acworth and formally charged with bank robbery as the "Motorcycle Bandit", an unidentified man who made his escape on a Honda motorcycle. Following the robbery of a bank in downtown Acworth, Ross surrendered to federal agents on February 9.[16]