It seems like a common “progressive” tactic to say: “we’re not trying to do X, just Y” and then push for Y after they get X and act like ot never happened. Remember when we the lockdown was “just 2 weeks” or “we don’t want to change your personal beliefs”?
@@thetruej7872 no, no... they love it. They scream to be in the streets with crippling debts and broke. They're pleading us to take them out of their misery
It's a common commie tactic - change the definition of something that they're constantly doing, so they can't be accused of doing it. Sensitivity reading, racism, fascism, et cetera. The list is very long.
Imagine a restaurant saying that hungry people isn't their audience and instead cooking for plants and just dumping the food they make on the ground. Then they act like they just saved the culinary arts while their food goes untouched and rots.
@BelMarduksBizarreBazaar lol like they wanted to make sure it was only for plants, so they added a bit of toxicity to it so nothing else touches it and only the plants will.
As 57 year old female gamer here’s what I see in SBI: I see people who know nothing about gamers and gaming. I’ve been gaming since Pong started. They fail to see that all these men they hate have bought and played millions of copies of Tomb Raider, Bayonetta, Metroid Prime, etc. Those amazing gamers had an ability to do something SBI and the like cannot do. See the world outside of themselves. They appreciate strong characters and a well crafted story, regardless! But SBI, well if it is not about them, then it’s not only irrelevant, it’s to be destroyed. I believe that is the definition of narcissism.
SBI also fails the checks for whatever social justice they are trying to promote: - Speaking for 'the group' is never a good sign, as you cannot speak for multiple and diverse groups of peoples whose ideals and needs are not necessarily the same as your own - Racism and discrimination on top of throwing insults toward another group of people - Not understanding that you can't just "change the color of people's skin" and call it a day for diversity - Probably not even bothering to address the potential issue of Cultural Appropriation/Misappropriation when dealing with other cultures
Madam, as an Old Gamer Myself(still not on your level, but Maybe one Day), SBI seems to misunderstand what a gamer is, back when it was about enjoying games, when 20 pixels were a character, I could as a kid see Samus face, and marvel at the character story, it was all in my head, her face had around 3 pixels, but I enjoyed it, SBI seems to be the evil woman trying to prevent cinderela from going to the ball, it strips the magic from games, and throw only badly formed stuff at us, thanks to Companies like SBI, games went from magical journeys to other worlds, into terror games that arent fun at all, all respect for all gamers, be them from Consoles, Smartphones, PC, GAMERS ASSEMBLE!!!!
A fellow old school legend! Pong and Drag racer on the commodore were some of my first as well, played and own everything today, sadly literal there lol. I like your post though, your absolutely right. So rare to meet some old gamers like me, I always feel left out lol Cheers
49 year old straight white male gamer here. I LOVE diversity when it makes sense, I thought shows like The Expanse did a fantastic job of showing how various cultures and peoples might exist in an age of space exploration. I support gay rights and gay marriage and will actively blacklist any politician or friend who objects to it. What I have _zero_ support for, is a company/studio shoehorning something into a game/show/movie for the purposes of checking off ESG boxes. It's as blatant as paid product placement (looking at you Burn Notice and Hawaii Five-O). What I have zero support for is being called a racist when you object to their ham fisted agenda pushing. Look at characters like Judy Alvarez in CP2077. Her story was _fantasic_, and it covered a lot of topics such as exploitation and prostitution without going into a far-left feminist rant designed to belittle male players.
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They tell you exactly what their intentions are, then gaslight you.
Yeah, it really blows my mind. Even if you use their warped definition of racism, they're smugly proud of the fact that they're bigots, by their own argument. It's insane.
All racism is bigotry, but not all bigotry is racism. Racism is bigotry and unfair biases again a race. Misogyny is bigotry against women Misandry is bigotry against men Paganphobia is hatred of Pagans There is also things like hatred of the educated, hatred of certain body shapes, etc They are all forms of bigotry. Requiring a power to do harm base don your bigotry only makes sense if you are only concerned with punishing of shunning those who act on their hate, as opposed to those who dislike and do nothing. Problem is no a days to many7 people want to shun and punish based on beliefs and feelings rather then actions.
It's almost like the people they are catering to are the kind of casual players who will play any game for 2 hours, go haha funni game, then never touch it again.
Rooster Teeth just finally went out of business after calling their fans racist for years. It's a proven fact, when you slander people and call them racist, they will stop supporting you. Then the company goes out of business and says "see!? it was those racists the whole time!" Pathetic!
That’s honestly hilarious, me and a few friends dropped RWBY after season 3-4 because it started losing itself and it took a massive shit on what Monty originally created. It’s no surprise RoosterTeeth fell off hard, more than half its fanbase stopped giving a fuck about them and the content they were trying to sell was either mediocre garbage or shit that was ruined. For example: AchievementHunter had taken down all the offensive and rage induced gaming videos they did, and they made it more family friendly. Apparently, it was due to cancel culture and SJW's bitching about pointless crap.
They're probably the same people who went pikachu face when actually good games outsold theirs and got awards, but to this day didn't connect the dots.
😂if we are not a target audience then why don't they put lgbtq stamp or sweet baby logo in the game they collab with then? i mean they won't get mad if retailer regardless of whether online digital or phisycal put them on there product and inform buyers like you need to be either a lgbtq or woke supported to play this! Then lets see how many people going to buy it surely it not a crime for sellers to tell that info about the game itself hehe or put sticker to indicate it has lgbtq rating different from the m rating done in other games like mk?
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 regardless of the point we still the onet o decide to buy them or not, there is no meaning to a product if it is not bought or sold.
what's with this "want to be represented in games" thing, in the first place anyways. I'm asian and i dont care if i see asians in game or not. I swear these people who call for "diversity" are only doing it for attention and self recognition, capitalizing on the rather-easy-to-manipulate sweet-baby supporters. If someone hand me over that survey i would probably choose diversity is good too, BUT NOT WHEN IT IS FORCED. Also, their kind of diversity is a bit toxic. These same people make very hate-able characters like that girl in forspoken. JUST LET US PLAY THE GAME WITHOUT YOUR AGENDA. Gamers ARE your target audience. You are preaching to a gamer community. The customer is always right and the gamers are the customers. Imagine creating "diversity" by alienating groups of people. These people who support these types of companies probably dont even play these games
Bingo brother. Its a grift! Like any grift they do it for money! THey have likely also convinced their egos that its for the good of the world and not their own selfish "saviour" complexes.
REMINDER: 1- Do not purchase any products that Sweet Baby, Inc has touched. 2- Do not purchase games from the developers that use Sweet Baby, Inc. 3- Do not support streamers that play games that SBI has touched.
Me since 2015 : doesn't buy games from western studio only asia or indie or old western games i ad before like darksider assassin creed til unity dark cloud 2 etc
@@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905 Unfortunately, a lot of Japanese companies have been claimed as well. Capcom, Bandai, SEGA, and Square-Enix should all be on the list as well.
Gaming “journalists” jumping in front of sweet baby because that is ultimately where they want to be in three years. Writing awful stories, and getting paid for it, but officially. 🎩 🐍 no step on snek 🇺🇸🇭🇰
@@Defhrone I probably bought PC Gamer every month when I was 12. The Demos were fun but the magazine? Even then always hyped sht AAA games and never cared about all the fun me and my friends were having. Hype hype hype. Those demo discs were fun though back in 56k dialup days.
@@Drak976Some of the articles were good, and it was always neat to see the games I played get featured. They also had a lot of articles or ads for games not available in my area which forced me to try and find out more about them. Even if it was paid advertising, it was still something fun and interesting and kept you connected to what was going on in the world of gaming.
the easy way to circumvent this issue is simply not buying ANY game from western game studio, indie or corporate Japanese studio have its own kind of infestation, but they always manage this issue because they know what makes money, so there's compromise, but its not exactly clean from social justice trash
the only games ive bought in the past couple years are indie games and elden ring. if they think theres some big woke audience waiting to play games until they add leftist propaganda let them stop buying their games they are fools bc they will make no money and money isnt infinite. just quit listening when they complain who cares what these freaks say anyway no one likes them anyway. lol
14:17 Ian Hamilton's intention behind his stats on white males tragically misses the fact that the demographic opposing identity politics in games are NOT just white males. We'll vote with our wallets and support groups like SBI Detected. However, let's keep it civil and not harass or try to cancel the individuals in the other group the same way they do to us. These people are prisoners of their own machinations.
funny if he thinks more than 10% of people across the world support modern gender theory lol. 90% of the world is religious so we know his stats are bs.
It just occurred to me what that guy did with the numbers is that same manipulative misinformation that that SBI woman talked about! "Scare the marketing team." So that they think that they need consultants like SBI. Then when things like this happen they minimize the issue. "Oh you think these people are the voices of the players? Look at this they only have this many people in their little group. That's .00004% of the gamers. A drop in the bucket guys. And look 66% of gamers actually want diversity in games. So who are you going to trust? A number of people in an online group (ignoring that those who agree and support them are an unrecorded number) or this poll (where we use a rather broad term and you don't exactly know the sample size or where that sample was taken for the poll). We're winning!" They are sneaky.
Very poor attempt at being sneaky given the current buybacks, extremely poor player count of “inclusive” games, and current status of companies that worked with SBI. 3 of them are closed
@@asteropax6469 current buy backs I agree should make investors think twice about trusting such numbers is they aren't paying attention to the voices of the people. Poor player count just happens in bad games or games with very little replay value, they can say that it being inclusive has nothing to do with it, which is true. They can throw out examples like OW and Fortnite which is inclusive, then point to something like Anthem or that latest postal game. Plus some of the studios shut down was going downhill long before hand. I've been watching Volition closely for years (I don't think they worked with sbi as originally implied, an interview said they had their own in house dei team) and they were going down hill over a decade ago before this was a big deal. They didn't want to give players what they wanted even though they were listening to them and even interacting with them. They wanted to move away from Saints Row's origins. Once the reboot trailer hit I knew they weren't ever getting out of the hole they dug.
but they can't event be sniky and cunnin, cus they give enop¿ugh information to make out the data if we take all the statement at face value, the sample is around 2B people lel, that is like 1/3 of total population. how in the name of Jesus did you mange for 1/3 of the population to full your questionary??? and like 1.2ish billion support diversity, which is obviously a big fuking lie hahaha
These people really think the impact of SBI detected is small? B r u h. The group now has (at the moment of writing) 242,700 followers. If every single follower from the group refuses to buy a AAA at 60 dollars, that's around 14 MILLION DOLLARS AND A HALF that the game won't receive.
You forgot the other part. That is the lowest possible net loss, requiring presuming that is 100% of the people who refuse to buy are only on steam and have steam accounts that know about and will follow the list. Also for only avoiding one game released, and only for one year. Given the language barrier threshold has been crossed, this has become a global boycott where they are using English-only people who still use steam after their own data breach scandal as the entire population. The game sales lost just for being in the same vicinity as SBI is looking to have a market loss of trillions over time, not billions in a single year.
The real question that needs to be considered, how many of the groups members are the one who buy games day 1, how many are the ones who wait a few months for patches and reviews to see if it is worth playing or not, and many are the sale only players, and how many are others? as well, how many are going to track it but not leave themselves as members? The steam player base is not just 1 group, any if you want to judge the impact of the curator you really need to know the break down of those different groups both as members and as a par t of Steam users as a whole. Most of my steam library is stuff bought based on on reviews or sales. Only about 5% of it is games bought full price without checking reviews.
@@sjmcc13 It's not just avoiding the games that are out now that have SBI or other consultancy groups involved, it's also about training Steams algorithm to not recommend this shit to anyone else either. Mass 'ignoring' games will push them further and further down the listings.
And not everyone against this has the time to join Steam groups but are still connected enough to know what games to stay away from. Like me. I'm not joining Steam groups(I have Steam off unless I'm playing a Steam game like Rust). But I hear right quick today if a game is being sketchy or anti gamer in the tiniest way. Especially since the Battlefield bs yrs ago where they gaslit us for being annoyed about that lady ww2 soldier with the cyborg arm calling us misogynists etc. If I even hear a cultural Marxist aka woke person or phrase is heard from anyone from any game or show or movie today I don't give them my money. To think they're all joined that Steam group and that is all the gamers who hate this insanity killing games today is juvenile of them. They just don't leave their echo chambers and prob only play with their peers who all think the same as them or alone. I actually play with a massive diverse group in Guild Wars 2. Normal gamer bros, gay dudes and chicks, trans, young adult to 50s and from literally all over the world and they all hate that forced diversity shit and hate it as much as anyone. 250+ ppl of all kinds. These SB defenders also thinking it's all "white men" and all that white shit are just so detached or new to actual gaming. It's every legit gamer who hates this stuff. Any child can see it's killing games.
@@asdadsgsaadasf6043 But honestly the real problem is the incompetence. I honestly don't think people give that much of a damn about it being "woke", it's just that those who insert such things in this tend to be such talentless hacks that they ruin the games so much people are done with it and anything associated with it.
@@Dice-Z I mean that is what it comes down to when everything is said and done. These people are extremely incompetent they wouldn't know how to do stuff with subtlety if it beat them about the head and shoulders. It's like the old do things with a scalpel not with a chainsaw. If they did their jobs correctly no one would be aware of their existence at this point which tells you they failed on all levels.
Game urinalists have no credibility left. They've had none for quite some time now. This is just farming rage to get clicks at this point. Pathetic grifting like the rest of these people.
glad some ppl see pass the fogs. lot of ppl still see them as moron that didnt know what ppl want, instead bunch of vile creatures that know what they doing to push their agenda
Each Gamer pays for what they care about. Last Time i checked these "Game Journos" never asked me about the Games i like to play. Their Antics got Senran Kagura destroyed. I am so pissed at them for it, i will try to became a Dev myself. Famous Villain Oneliner aside, but can recall, that i never asked them for anything outside of the Game Reviews.
@@vancomycinb1193 Yeah. I will show them, how it's done. In Life, unlike Boxing, there are no Ko's. To me, a 24+ Hour Days mean nothing. Struggling to get out of Bed each Day? Couldn't care less about it. As long as get up each following Day, i'll keep trying. I will get where i want to go, if need be on Barefoot. Which is why these Game Journo's Attitude... That of Silver Spoon fed Jester Wannabes, thinking they can boss around their Customers, are the one Thing i can't stand. These Noobs can go home, Now! Let's see, how that Story goes.
@@Ashurman666 It really isn't, games shouldn't have a checklist of human tropes required. Priorities should be making a good game in whatever vision the creator wants.
@@gimpxors3 While I do agree, I respectfully, would like it if there were games that were diverse but not tarnishing the creators vision, unlike what SBI is doing here.
@@Ashurman666 i agree in the fact that you cannot exclude people from anything because of their origin/race/group, but diversity these days has evolved into something that makes it a requirement to have atleast one of race/gender etc etc. If done in a correct way i really dont mind. But these days it just feels like people try to force their agenda onto us at every medium possible.
Anyone in the gaming industry defending Sweet Baby Inc is never a good sign. I think I heard someone working on The Insomniac Wolverine game defended them. If that's the case, then well I know what game I'm not buying. Honestly after Spider-Man 2 PS5, I shouldn't be surprised.
I think it was in one of these SBI videos from Rev. The narrative director on Wolverine is a they/them slug who is openly racist/sexist against cis white males. Yeah... that bodes well for a game centered around a cis white male.
@thetruej7872 Should have known not to buy it just by the fact it's made by Insomniac... Spiderman 2, remember? It was infested with woke crud. Wolverine will be, too, I'd bet money on it.
Screw that noise. We shouldn't even do that. What we gamers should do is not give these companies even the smallest iota of attention. Just boycott everyone on that list. If no one is playing their games, not even pirating the games , they will finally know they fucked up.
@@АндрейНеугодников-м6еBlackrock's funds aren't limitless. The companies that made the woke Saints Row and Forespoken went out of business because people didn't buy their garbage.🤷♂️
I wish they'd tell us just who this 'modern audience' is coz they never seem interested in supporting the entertainment designed for them. When a property tanks we're told 'it wasn't for you'. The 'you' apparently being the vast majority.
No one. When game devs who also gamers make games for themselves, Helldivers 2 happen because other gamers can enjoy it too. But woke assholes game devs (and they much more happens to be in charge because they lick asses their way to the top) do not understand or enjoy games, so if they also dont even try to listen to actual gamers, then their games will be as detached from reality and playability as Forspoken and Gotham Knights.
😂if we are not a target audience then why don't they put lgbtq stamp or sweet baby logo in the game they collab with then? i mean they won't get mad if retailer regardless of whether online digital or phisycal put them on there product and inform buyers like you need to be either a lgbtq or woke supported to play this! Then lets see how many people going to buy it surely it not a crime for sellers to tell that info about the game itself hehe or put sticker to indicate it has lgbtq rating different from the m rating done in other games like mk?
Always those double standards. SBI Detected: Simply informs which games are affiliated with SBI, nothing more. SBI: Calls for massreporting SBI Detected Yet they claim Karrutus is the one leading a harassment campaign... Any other company would be hyped about the free advertisement, only if you know you're doing something shady, would you be so upset about someone letting the world know in which projects you were involved in.
Big assumption to make by Ian Hamilton that the 64% of gamers who care about diversity (assuming that's accurate) will accept slop as long as it's diverse slop. I'd also question whether that statistic means what he thinks it means - diversity in games can mean a lot of things to a lot of different people, and even if it's universally interpreted as ethnically/culturally diverse, I would question how many of that 64% would accept a game that shoehorns diversity in where it doesn't make sense, or where it is the only thing that is positive about the game. Would that 64% buy a game that has bad writing, bad gameplay and is a buggy mess, but ticks all the diversity boxes? I doubt it.
Do you think it should be illegal for there to be a black character in a video game? If you answer "No", you're in the 64%. That's how surveys work and why you should never take their results seriously.
Seriously no one would even know about them if they hadn't been in all these big games and also done a really crap job. If people can easily see what you've done then you failed at the very job you were hired for.
"We have to understand who the target audiences are"... So they keep targeting literally no one? 'cause there's like no one playing that shitty Suicide Squad game, and very VERY few people even bought it in the first place.
These people are deluded into thinking that they're the majority, look at the Bud Light fiasco for instance, the reason why that whole thing blew up wasn't even because of Dylan Mulvaney but because the CEO made the most snide contemptuous comments about how Bud Light needs to "move on" from the "bro" demographic and replace them with hip young woke and queer demos. They openly fantasize about replacing you, but they don't get that most of the people they think they represent are nothing like them. These people really think that the whole damn world is ultra progressive like them and that a small collection of stubborn white conservative holdouts are the reason why we don't have a socialist utopia yet, they're living on another planet.
As far as i know its "very few" for a AAA game, i heared that after 1 million Sales, it took a hard nosedive, so i guess 1,5-2 million over the span of its life? But yeah, they didnt make their money back at all. When you add in the Servercosts and Marketing it will never make a profit.
@@neinne6693that means they probably lost tens of millions from it. alas, they won't attribute that to the shitty writing that SBI had a big influence in...
Suicide Squad could have the best writing of all time and it would still be hot garbage. Would you really accept unfiltered dog slop if triple A devs painted it your favorite color? Standards people, have them.
I absolutely detest the absolute trash that is NEWZOO's dataset that voids any and all merits of anyone bringing it during a discussions about the PC/Console market. Here's what NEWZOO entirely failed at: Their dataset doesn't disclose that it doesn't take into account the dichotomy of today's gaming world. There's 2 gaming worlds: Long form PC/Console games and Short form Mobile Games and their demographics DO NOT MINGLE. 50% of players are women, yes, BUT 80% of that 50 will never, EVER, play anything other than Candy Crusher, Bejeweled type games. Which is fine. But why are they then included in a discussion about the bad effects of SBInc on Alan Wake 2, Kill the Justice league, etc? Because their inclusion massages the numbers in the right way.
I dabble in games mostly Switch but I have a Steam Account and over 1000 hours in Starbound man I think I played it in early access! But… I still don’t like looter shooters and I don’t like SBI ruining what is supposed to be a break from modern nonsense talk. And it is it really is just nonsense talk. They will go on and on how much the love women when FMLA by law still does not have to be payed by law and you got moms opening saving accounts so they can take off time to take care of their newborns. So even if there are women gamers besides myself omg I still don’t care! I don’t want to talk social issues in my video game! Plus these hacks only rehash the battles that have already been won hence why I brought up FMLA where are you on that feminists?
And why they wanna make the number mingle that way? So they can get investors to stick around. Especially those that have the most shares in them like Blackrock.
Thats like the problem of any statistics, datamining and its the first ERROR that gets mentioned whenever someone teaches any of this shit. People dont want datasets to describe reality they just make the Data to compell to their wishfull thinking. I bet my ass someone gave them actual reasonable gamers statistic but they didnt like it so after that it was remade to included mobile trash too so it looks more pleasing etc etc. Literally same shit as with Wage gap!
I like how the question that got 64% support was "Diversity in games is important to me" without any context. If you asked someone who doesn't pay attention to this stuff online they could easily be confused by that question. E.g. "uh.. sure? It'd be boring if they're all first person shooters"
This whole situation has been wild and elucidating. The amount of open racism and hate in this industry IS significant, and to no surprise, is coming from those who are loudest about being against it. Honestly, it just saves me money. We now have names, not just organizations, to recognize in order to avoid buying schlock in the first place. Turns out that huge spotlights on horrible behavior is actually useful. Who knew!
Someone PLEASE create a curator page for all those in the gaming industry who DEFENDED Sweet Baby Inc. They need to be boycotted all the same as any company with SBI involvement.
SBI: "You are not the target audience lol" Gamers: "Ok!" SBI: "WHY IS NOBODY BUYING GAMES WE WERE INVOLVED WITH" Game Companies: "Its okay babe, I'll lost another billion to you"
meh.... they can defend SBI all they want by calling us "not their target audience" , but dont be surprised when the sales wont reach the expected target
Sales isn't the point; inflating the company's ESG score so Blackrock will invest in them is the point. In essence, Larry Fink is their target audience.
@@astronomybrainiac And look where it got Disney. And what happened to Rooster Teeth. This is only profitable in the short term. Either that or only the big boss benefits from it.
now are you able to make the connection to other journalists? do you realize how they lie to us as well in many topics? Are you able to make the connection that those who the journalists hate like Trump are likely the best for the people just for the simple fact that the journalists hate them?
As a Newer Game dev, this entire situation is way the fuck out of hand. My goal as a game dev is to make a game that people can enjoy. if possible make several. I was taught that many devs do the same, but the state of game dev studios are corrupting that aspiration and turning it into agendas. Diversity is great, but if it conflicts with the story or if it feels forced. Its not worth having in. I don't care if the person who plays is white, black, asian, male, female or anything in between. As long as they enjoyed my game even a little bit. I am happy.
Dude we devs are working our ass off with the absurd amount of standard for a regular game today, and then somehow these people with literally no knowledge whatsoever come and drown our hard work with their agendas. Companies need to learn that these people won't bring them any nickel nor dime.
Me a European: Defuq are they doing over there? No seriously, as someone who mainly plays JRPG's, Fighting Games and Platformers i just can't.....What? I work for a few Weeks with little Internet, come back and the first thing i see these last few days is, the Internet on fire because of Wokeness, Racism, Game Journalysm, Virtual RUclipsr drama ,a giant bunch of scams ,and controversies.
I’ll try and summarise for you. Several AAA games have been disappointments, being not fun to play, ruining beloved characters, or having their stories focus on diversity with the subtlety of an anvil to the face. A gamer in Brazil noticed a trend with these games having consultation work by Sweet Baby Inc, who offer ESG loan money to companies that hire them.The gamer created a Steam forum page listing all the games he can be certain they worked on. An employee from Sweet Baby Inc tried to shut down his forum page and get his Steam account wiped. That pretty much kicked the hornet’s nest, and now we are learning more about how SBI operates. With things like how their strategy if managers won’t listen to them is to terrify marketing into complying, their leader wanting to remove white men from the protagonist role, and tweets where people have said it’s not racism if you’re target white people. Considering they advertise themselves as being all about equality and tolerance, finding out how intolerant they are of people who disagree with them has only made gamers madder.
also adding to what the other commentor said. One of the creators of SBI is the sister (Eileena Holowka) of the dev that offed himself (Alec Holowka) because Zoe Quinn accused him of some SA stuff. The sister backed Zoe Quinn, and IIRC they got money from the brother's death which was in turn used to fund the company that loans ESG money. the name of the other company they have is Baby Ghost, but they might also have ANOTHER one, I just can't remember off the top of my head. add in: Weird ghost was the other name. and Alec Holowka started infinite ammo, another company that "donates" to Eileena's companies, even though the brother passed away. Minimal effort gaming put out a good video on it titled "Sweet Baby Inc Was Originally FUNDED By Deceased Developer Alec Holowka's Game Studio?!" at the 7 minute mark, it discusses what I listed above, if you are curious.
@TheBrahOfTheWeek It's basically leftist politics v everyone else. Gender theory, critical race theory, socialism, backed by corporatism. All while the rest of us only want to play a game like we used to back in the early 2000's. Sad thing is we won't win because blackrock the company supporting sbi and similar ones is too powerful. The CEO of that company has said, "You have to force behaviors." Movies, tv shows, and video games is how blackrock is doing it. Worse blackrock is in good with the Chinese government.
I will forever comment. How are these people able to conduct themselves this way in public and antagonize consumers.and still have a job and professional relationships
It's part of the Cathedral. They're not lying when they say you, gamers, are not the target audience. The king, whose ring they are kissing, is the target audience. Thus, these midwits, who already lost a competency crisis about 8-10 years ago, are trying to virtue signal for the crumbs for their actual handlers, various political interests. Note that games journalism and cushy tech jobs are on the chopping block. You'll then see why they're allowed. Critical mass at the cathedral where there are no competent people to guide the midwits anymore, cure that Spongebob trying to remember his name scene from you know what, just replaced with soyjack people.
1) gamers are dumb 2) industry higher ups are dumb 3) investors are dumb 4) most of these dumb twitter activists are trying their hardest to invade every part of the industry 5) people fall for this BS, casual players and random workers in the industry who aren't particularly alligned with their values, but get it shoved down their throat so much they start believing it and thinking most people actually care about that, doesn't help if not doing so will have the activists and radicals attempt to ostracize and guilt you into submission and more
LMAO I'm a disabled gamer, they don't fucking care, I've seen so many games with fixed controls and very little options I have to use external programs and hacks to play comfortably (and if it's online hope that I don't get banned for using said programs), but hey I don't complain cause I know I'm in the minority. Even if you make your game accessible I won't pay a dime if it is woke garbage.
I mean you always hear about this legendary "modern audience" but I have yet to ever see them. They must be like spirits or ninjas or something. Or like I assume people who simply don't buy the product that are supposedly made specifically for them.
@@JohnDoe-wq5euI’ve seen them. They do exist, but from what I can tell, there just isn’t enough of them (which is great for us, obviously). You will tend to see them on otherwise normie channels that are dipping their toes in this whole debacle. Mutahar’s video on SBI for instance. He doesn’t normally cover culture war stuff, so things like ESG and DEI haven’t been mentioned in any of his videos until that one. The majority of the comments appeared to be on our side, but I saw quite a few dissenters that were trying to defend not just SBI, but the DEI stuff in general. One even flat out admitted that they would prefer to see “crappy diversity in their games” than “no diversity”.
@@gobalbucs I mean the problem is the modern audience does exist but it's just an audience it's not a paying audience. What these people are doing is trying to force people into eating what they've made by trying to hide it and once you've swallowed it it's too late. And as for "any diversity is good diversity" yeah I've seen that said to and we have a word for that it's called tokenism. It used to be basically stereotyping but apparently we just call it something different now. You would think you would prefer to have diversity shown in a positive light not shoved down people's throats aggressively in a way that guarantees people will push it away like a "picky baby".
Just wanting to enjoy games without a pushed incentive towards woke nonsense shouldn't even be a hot take. But it's from game journalists and posts on Twitter, so I can't even pretend I'm shocked. Also, I find it ironic how they're all "we support minorities and are all inclusive" and then go "well your opinion is in the minority, so get the hell out". Honestly, it should just show they're not even worth listening to. These employees handled this with all the professionalism of a 12-year-old.
There are several types of those people who "care about diversity": those who wish to kick out the current dominating group (cis white or whatever) and *be the next themselves*, those that are profiting from it, those that are just simply trolling, and those who actually care (and sadly have their voices drown in some of those previous ones).
@@voidmain7902 They all believe that they will be in control once the power structure which they perceive to be dominant is toppled, but they are nothing but useful idiots being manipulated from far above, by people that will stamp them out of existence once they cease being necessary. Watch the 1988 interview of ex-KGB member Yuri Bezmenov. It is VERY enlightening as to why things like this are happening, and how it will end.
@@voidmain7902 "those who wish to kick out the current dominating group (cis white or whatever) and * be the next themselves * " THIS. It is specifically this, mostly for people in positions of authority. Notice how many of them outright say that you cannot be r@cist against white people. What kind of hostile actions against white people have they already normalized in their own heads? As far as I'm concerned, those who say this are very much racist, and are actively trying to create a social climate where such bigotry is normalized and encouraged. Beware these types if they enter the legal world, because the easiest way to make evil concepts into law is to have popular support backing it.
Why are game devs are so detached from gamers? Most game-devs have progressed in the industry by pleasing other game-devs, not by pleasing gamers. So when there's a situation like this, where they are made to pick a side. They will dismiss and insult gamers, to show loyalty to their fellow devs. The devs who do show loyalty to gamers over game-devs, will find themselves blacklisted. Or find more roadblocks in their career.
People treat academics too seriously? I knew that professionals who grew naturally and the professionals who were only in for the money and obtained their expertise solely by studying the subject can be very different and the latter could technically be more disconnected from, or even rewrite the industry.
@@voidmain7902 Not referring to academia at all. What I'm speaking, applies to people who are self taught. And end up as either solo-indie devs, or with a small studio. Picture a gamer who just wants to make games. So they start learning, and start hanging around in game dev communities. This type of solo-dev, slowly becomes detached from gamers in this environment. And find easier success, by 'saying the right things' to get connected with the right people. With connections, who can get them jobs, or make them part of a game studio or team. Where they can actually start making games. Once the dev is there, they have to be loyal to their game dev friends who got them there. They won't be loyal to gamers. Most game devs (in my experience), go this route. And end up corrupted, by the things they have to do, to reach their dreams of making games. And become detached from gamers. The other route is a much more harder one (on skill, effort & finances). Where the solo dev makes game on their own (or with a team they set up themselves) and then markets the game, creates a following. And does it all successfully. This way, they are independent, and their focus and loyalty, is exclusively to the gamer audience. This situation, is rarer. These devs, are rarer.
@@NetBattlerThey're both. There are quite a few developers who are on the Left; if you want to get ahead you follow the lead and become Woke since it's what most rich people seem to believe in. Don't think about as a set of rational beliefs and more as a social contagion.
Her death threat is so real that it looks like she got an image on google, added text on top, and screenshot it without any effort to properly edit the image and add any interface whatsoever to make it more believable
I love that devs and whatnot all openly jump in the same ship together. Its like, ok... I wont buy your games, your games, your games, or anything you have been apart of. Thank you for letting us know :D Is someone making a more thorough steam list of all the past and present gamergate people so we can avoid them like the plague too?
The failure of games like Suicide Squad proves they cant even get their target audience to buy their games. If we're such a minority of gamers, shouldnt our dollar not matter? Shouldnt their games be successes regardless?
I want a mod into The Binding of Isaac that changes Blubaby boss into Sweetbaby lol so i can annihilate him by some op brimstone combo with even greater pleasure
Imagine looking at 14 million dollars and wanting nothing to do with it at all. There's over 200,000 people on that list now and games are $70 a piece. Do the math.
Devs in the 90s: We can turn our passion. Our love of gaming, into a business! Devs today: We can make money, and inject our ideals at the same time. When's lunch time?
I literally had to google how to join a steam group since I'd never even heard of groups before this controversy. I assume I'm not the only one so the group only represents a fraction of people who dislike Sweet Baby Inc.
Wonder how many people in the hidden replies pointed out that, as Rev said, since all the curator group does is tell what games SBI worked on, they should be happy for it if they were proud of their work? I don't use twitter but don't think Rev showed any replies to someone mentioning it
My favorite part is them saying all gamers are racist and not their target audience, yet somehow, 64% of us think diversity is important and we matter. Like please, choose your poison ?
I looked up the Newzoo study being cited. The DEI section is paywalled, but it states a sample size of 74,295, which is less than a third the number of subscriptions of the SBIDetected list. This does not reflect poorly on Newzoo's data or methodology, but rather our friend Ian's inability to understand statistics.
Hold on. I need to check Ian Hamilton's math here. 200k people is .007% of gamers? So 2 million would therefore be .07%, 20 million would be .7%, and 200 million would be 7%. So 100% of "gamers" would be 3.2 billion people. Is he really trying to claim that almost half the world's total population are computer gamers and would call themselves such? I find that a little hard to believe.
If you wanna do some more math, he claims that 64% of players want equality. However, a more careful inspection of that graph he shows from Newzoo shows that poll only took into account 58,040 participants. 37k is somehow bigger than 200k in that guy's mind.
Those same stats are likely the ones they use to say over 50% of women play videogames because they have Angry Birds on their phone. Gaming is still a big market and likely is over a billion users especially thanks to Asian countries where it's been more socially acceptable for longer. That said, even his numbers are hilarious. 40% of US gamers are white men, he said, and 30% of US pop are white men. He's still stating that white men are disproportionately gamers than other groups (I suspect women are largely the group not playing games). Also just noticed that YT says gamers isn't a real word.
At this rate, we should compile lists of people who side or work with Sweet Baby Inc. (and woke individuals in general) and send them to companies to ensure that they don't hire these people.
@@ChainedFeiif we do that then we're no better does sweet baby ink or the woke mob that tries to cancel people and get other people fired and barred from employment if we do that there were no better than the enemy we're trying to fight
Belittling and insulting the paying customers is a business model that only really works for dominatrixes. And even then they have the morality to atleast have safe words.
I can't believe more effort is being put into making games "diverse" instead of *accessible*. Y'know, full key rebinding, ESPECIALLY CONTROLLER, with all button prompts (xbox/ps/nintendo), and to a lesser degree arbitrary resolution and framerate support. I can't even play some games because of their lack of input support (and most are AAA, ironically). Meanwhile, crowds like SBI and related "wokeism" are infinitely louder than people in my position struggling to even enjoy our lifelong hobby because of disability issues. It's genuinely insulting.
I won't forgive them after what they've done to the late Akira Toriyama. I don't want sweet baby Inc to have anything to do with the Chrono trigger remake
I really don't understand how me finding blatant racism distasteful turns me into an alt right yatze... But ok go off game journo, I won't interrupt my enemy while they are making a mistake
@@casualcausalityy That was what I used to think but someone once said that people in or near the center cannot bring about change and I am starting to agree. Fence-sitting doesn't help at all and both sides can use them as an argument to garner more people on their side. So, if you see something you hate you should just go on the extreme opposite until it doesn't serve your purpose.
@@Natsukashii-Records Oh I agree having identified as a centrist most of my life. Finding a comfortable place between the center and extremes is the best option. Being a polite and reasonable centrist often gets exploited by these thieves who say the right things without meaning. We need to defend our principles
@@casualcausalityy Well I mean they talk about "moving the goalpost" but in this case we're talking about moving where the line is that delineates people in the middle. I always kind of considered myself extremely liberal technically speaking even though I mostly did fall in the middle with my opinions. But then the left really started getting crazy and I pretty much had no choice but to start going the opposite direction because it was literally becoming what it is now a left-leaning fascist movement. That's literally what I see with companies supporting and sweet baby themselves. You're either with us or you're the enemy.
I for one will always take to the high seas to test the waters before putting down my anchor on islands to look for adventures. Who knows, you just might find some hidden treasures.
Bellular has nothing to gain from this, they've always positioned themselves as switzerland and their audience is all over the place. No matter which position they took, taking a position on it (or even seeming to) would only harm their channel. Yong Yea likes to think of himself the same way but everybody knows he isn't neutral.
Be sure to leave (honest) negative reviews on all sweet baby games if you have any, especially if it could pertain to their specific contributions to the game! Just don't mention SBI by name so they can't wave it off as review bombing.
I did try and warn people against this I really did but no one wanted to listen to the "if you keep doing the same thing it'll happen again." well, certainly is fun to see more things burning...
Even if we take his numbers as true, that's not how it works. Not being in the SBI Detected group does _not_ equal blind support for SBI and others like them. If the vast majority of people supported them, surely they wouldn't need to private their twitter accounts, hide replies and they wouldn't get community noted on their BS.
i genuinely can't understand corpos pulling the "if you don't like it, don't get it" card. i don't mind if they use it as long as they don't bother outside their target audience. But these people pull that card and get angry when people actually not interacting with their products.
Right off the back of failed games and studio shutdowns, I hope they continue to do what they are doing, and I'll give my money and time to the amazing Indie, AA, and Asian markets who deserve it.
@@АндрейНеугодников-м6е they insulted basically the guy who made the modern series (anime western anything) said that dbz sucked... and then said it had bad black chars essentially pissing on his grave
@@АндрейНеугодников-м6еThe main instigator, the SBI employee that started the harassment campaign against the SBI Detected Steam page, essentially said that Toriyama made the best and worst black characters in anime all in one show. Obviously by "worst" she was likely referring to Mr. Popo who many people wrongly assume to be based off of black stereotypes, but he is probably actually based off of Djinn or the Hindu god Mahakala.
Didn't another big company try pulling that whole "if you don't like it don't buy it" shtick? Last I remember, it didn't work out too well for them and they never did it again (looking at you DICE).
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SJWs, years ago: "No one's trying to take your games away!"
SJWs, now: "Everyone report this guy's Steam account so we take his games away!"
It seems like a common “progressive” tactic to say: “we’re not trying to do X, just Y” and then push for Y after they get X and act like ot never happened. Remember when we the lockdown was “just 2 weeks” or “we don’t want to change your personal beliefs”?
Same people that tell you to just let people enjoy what they want while actively working to deny everyone else access to what they enjoy.
I knew they would accept nothing less when they went after the dev of Kingdom Come, for daring to be historically accurate.
@@diomedes7971 Ghost of Tsushima as well.
Also SJWs sometimes: No one is going for your kids, you're making things up !"
SJWs now:
Game companies be like "You're not our target audience"
Ok, then create content for your target audience and see what happens lmao
They're not gonna like the low sales percentage 😂
They already know what happens. They lose lots and lots of money, the masses reject and crap all over it, and it gets generally ignored otherwise.
@@thetruej7872 no, no... they love it. They scream to be in the streets with crippling debts and broke. They're pleading us to take them out of their misery
They've literally been doing that, and then shutting down because their audience of "no one" couldn't buy enough copies to keep them afloat.
Lol
I hate how racists try and change the definition of racism so that they can’t be called racist for their racism
It's a common commie tactic - change the definition of something that they're constantly doing, so they can't be accused of doing it.
Sensitivity reading, racism, fascism, et cetera. The list is very long.
They think we have no brains just like them
What baffles me is that even if you DO use their warped definition of racism, by their own argument they'd be bigots.
And they're PROUD of that.
Newspeak only matters to people who think newspeak matters. Normal people can see their blatant racism and bigotry for what it is.
Same.
Imagine a restaurant saying that hungry people isn't their audience and instead cooking for plants and just dumping the food they make on the ground. Then they act like they just saved the culinary arts while their food goes untouched and rots.
But the food doesn't decompose and even dogs and ants won't touch it
@BelMarduksBizarreBazaar lol like they wanted to make sure it was only for plants, so they added a bit of toxicity to it so nothing else touches it and only the plants will.
As 57 year old female gamer here’s what I see in SBI: I see people who know nothing about gamers and gaming. I’ve been gaming since Pong started. They fail to see that all these men they hate have bought and played millions of copies of Tomb Raider, Bayonetta, Metroid Prime, etc. Those amazing gamers had an ability to do something SBI and the like cannot do. See the world outside of themselves. They appreciate strong characters and a well crafted story, regardless! But SBI, well if it is not about them, then it’s not only irrelevant, it’s to be destroyed. I believe that is the definition of narcissism.
SBI also fails the checks for whatever social justice they are trying to promote:
- Speaking for 'the group' is never a good sign, as you cannot speak for multiple and diverse groups of peoples whose ideals and needs are not necessarily the same as your own
- Racism and discrimination on top of throwing insults toward another group of people
- Not understanding that you can't just "change the color of people's skin" and call it a day for diversity
- Probably not even bothering to address the potential issue of Cultural Appropriation/Misappropriation when dealing with other cultures
Madam, as an Old Gamer Myself(still not on your level, but Maybe one Day), SBI seems to misunderstand what a gamer is, back when it was about enjoying games, when 20 pixels were a character, I could as a kid see Samus face, and marvel at the character story, it was all in my head, her face had around 3 pixels, but I enjoyed it, SBI seems to be the evil woman trying to prevent cinderela from going to the ball, it strips the magic from games, and throw only badly formed stuff at us, thanks to Companies like SBI, games went from magical journeys to other worlds, into terror games that arent fun at all, all respect for all gamers, be them from Consoles, Smartphones, PC, GAMERS ASSEMBLE!!!!
A fellow old school legend!
Pong and Drag racer on the commodore were some of my first as well, played and own everything today, sadly literal there lol.
I like your post though, your absolutely right.
So rare to meet some old gamers like me, I always feel left out lol Cheers
@@DROK278 cheers mate!
49 year old straight white male gamer here. I LOVE diversity when it makes sense, I thought shows like The Expanse did a fantastic job of showing how various cultures and peoples might exist in an age of space exploration. I support gay rights and gay marriage and will actively blacklist any politician or friend who objects to it.
What I have _zero_ support for, is a company/studio shoehorning something into a game/show/movie for the purposes of checking off ESG boxes. It's as blatant as paid product placement (looking at you Burn Notice and Hawaii Five-O). What I have zero support for is being called a racist when you object to their ham fisted agenda pushing.
Look at characters like Judy Alvarez in CP2077. Her story was _fantasic_, and it covered a lot of topics such as exploitation and prostitution without going into a far-left feminist rant designed to belittle male players.
They tell you exactly what their intentions are, then gaslight you.
The bailey is overrun! Flee to the motte!
It's the standard "it's not made for you". Then they blame you for not buying it.
Why is that a standard its even sounds insane?
“It’s not happening.”
“Ok it’s happening but here’s why it’s a good thing.”
Their intentions is to gaslight you.
That person saying, "I'm not racist, I'm just a bigot" is the most weirdest thing I ever heard. That's like saying, "I'm not a moron, I'm an idiot!"
Aren't both words are just a compliment for being a discriminating customer that does not put up with bullshit these days?
I feel like game journalists are suffering from autism or incompetence virus
Yeah, it really blows my mind. Even if you use their warped definition of racism, they're smugly proud of the fact that they're bigots, by their own argument. It's insane.
@@АндрейНеугодников-м6е Like how "nazi" has been bastardized so these days it just means "person who disagrees with you".
All racism is bigotry, but not all bigotry is racism.
Racism is bigotry and unfair biases again a race.
Misogyny is bigotry against women
Misandry is bigotry against men
Paganphobia is hatred of Pagans
There is also things like hatred of the educated, hatred of certain body shapes, etc
They are all forms of bigotry.
Requiring a power to do harm base don your bigotry only makes sense if you are only concerned with punishing of shunning those who act on their hate, as opposed to those who dislike and do nothing. Problem is no a days to many7 people want to shun and punish based on beliefs and feelings rather then actions.
Its funny that they say 200k isnt a significant number of people that are against sweet baby yet they cant even keep 10'000 players in suicide squad
they can't even keep a thousand people in it lmao, average daily player count is >500 lmao
@@triton199400 ish now
@@triton199 lmao that's even funnier
It's almost like the people they are catering to are the kind of casual players who will play any game for 2 hours, go haha funni game, then never touch it again.
@@Dice-Z
And they somehow think that there are enough of them to increase profits.
Rooster Teeth just finally went out of business after calling their fans racist for years. It's a proven fact, when you slander people and call them racist, they will stop supporting you. Then the company goes out of business and says "see!? it was those racists the whole time!"
Pathetic!
Think a better metric is the owning company. In this case WB.
That’s honestly hilarious, me and a few friends dropped RWBY after season 3-4 because it started losing itself and it took a massive shit on what Monty originally created.
It’s no surprise RoosterTeeth fell off hard, more than half its fanbase stopped giving a fuck about them and the content they were trying to sell was either mediocre garbage or shit that was ruined.
For example: AchievementHunter had taken down all the offensive and rage induced gaming videos they did, and they made it more family friendly. Apparently, it was due to cancel culture and SJW's bitching about pointless crap.
Hilarious considering their dumpster fire of a racism allegory in RWBY.
Didn't know about that. Only watched Red vs Blue Series when it was on netflix and some episodes on site. All the episodes are gone now?
Or Warner Brothers could have used them as a tax right off. lol
If the asses aren't making games for gamers, gamers should ignore anything they make.
thankfully, there is a recent steam curator group that was willing to point that out for us to make such informed purchases
I know they hate me. But that's ok, I hate them too. Even if you write 100s of shitty articles, I'm still not gonna buy your infected games.
Not even pirating it😂
Kotaku burned it's creditably years ago. They have no power anymore. Hell the editor is begging Hasan (aka Hamas) piker on Twitter
@@npcimknot958 "I wouldn't even pirate your game." xD
@@npcimknot958They're not even worth pirating.
Bro, Jesus love you!
If Gamers and people who enjoy video games aren't the target audience: Congratulations, you've made a game for no one.
I suspect their target audience just aren't into games.
So essentially the same result.
They're probably the same people who went pikachu face when actually good games outsold theirs and got awards, but to this day didn't connect the dots.
😂if we are not a target audience then why don't they put lgbtq stamp or sweet baby logo in the game they collab with then? i mean they won't get mad if retailer regardless of whether online digital or phisycal put them on there product and inform buyers like you need to be either a lgbtq or woke supported to play this! Then lets see how many people going to buy it surely it not a crime for sellers to tell that info about the game itself hehe or put sticker to indicate it has lgbtq rating different from the m rating done in other games like mk?
A corporations customer is the share holder, or you'd be called a customer... Not consumer
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 regardless of the point we still the onet o decide to buy them or not, there is no meaning to a product if it is not bought or sold.
The same people who defended Zoe Quinn….which makes sense since Sweet Baby Inc is tied to that 🅱️itch
Yep, Very concerning For us the gamers
Yuup
Oh a murderer. 100% people should be investigating her
japan should deport that shit
Defending a murderer? These people belong in an asylum
what's with this "want to be represented in games" thing, in the first place anyways. I'm asian and i dont care if i see asians in game or not.
I swear these people who call for "diversity" are only doing it for attention and self recognition, capitalizing on the rather-easy-to-manipulate sweet-baby supporters.
If someone hand me over that survey i would probably choose diversity is good too, BUT NOT WHEN IT IS FORCED. Also, their kind of diversity is a bit toxic. These same people make very hate-able characters like that girl in forspoken.
JUST LET US PLAY THE GAME WITHOUT YOUR AGENDA. Gamers ARE your target audience. You are preaching to a gamer community. The customer is always right and the gamers are the customers. Imagine creating "diversity" by alienating groups of people. These people who support these types of companies probably dont even play these games
The Spyro series must have died because there aren't enough dragonkins.
Inclusivity by alienation is just forced exclusivity.
I want my good games back..
It's western virus mindset.
Bingo brother. Its a grift! Like any grift they do it for money! THey have likely also convinced their egos that its for the good of the world and not their own selfish "saviour" complexes.
A diverse character whose only personality trait is their diversity is not a character, at best they are a caricature
REMINDER:
1- Do not purchase any products that Sweet Baby, Inc has touched.
2- Do not purchase games from the developers that use Sweet Baby, Inc.
3- Do not support streamers that play games that SBI has touched.
And Blackrock that allows SBI to happen.
or any other services that are similar to sbi. the hydra has many heads.
Me since 2015 : doesn't buy games from western studio only asia or indie or old western games i ad before like darksider assassin creed til unity dark cloud 2 etc
@@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905 tbh the last time I bought a mainstream video game and actually felt that it was worth every penny: Elden Ring.
@@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905 Unfortunately, a lot of Japanese companies have been claimed as well. Capcom, Bandai, SEGA, and Square-Enix should all be on the list as well.
The oldest law of Twitter: No matter how horrendous something is someone will defend it with their life
That's just rule 1 of the internet
Nah. These people are simply getting paid. By you know who
Yeaa
@bashamd96 no, Rule 1 of the internet is don't talk about rules 2-33
Social Media is giving every potential Hitler, a voice.
Gaming “journalists” jumping in front of sweet baby because that is ultimately where they want to be in three years.
Writing awful stories, and getting paid for it, but officially.
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🐍 no step on snek 🇺🇸🇭🇰
Yeah, there is not such thing as "games journalism", that went away around the time when games magazines were paper.
@@lareolanKFPah yes, the good old days, where a magazine told you about 'clapaucius' and that it changed to 'rosebud' in the Sims 2
@@Defhrone I probably bought PC Gamer every month when I was 12. The Demos were fun but the magazine? Even then always hyped sht AAA games and never cared about all the fun me and my friends were having. Hype hype hype. Those demo discs were fun though back in 56k dialup days.
@@Drak976Some of the articles were good, and it was always neat to see the games I played get featured. They also had a lot of articles or ads for games not available in my area which forced me to try and find out more about them. Even if it was paid advertising, it was still something fun and interesting and kept you connected to what was going on in the world of gaming.
Journalism hasn't been good, ever.
You can go back as far as you want, it's always exceptions that are "good."
They tell us we're "not the target audience" then get mad when we don't buy their games.
Like bruh... 🙄
....Ghostbusters 2016 says hi and they warmed a seat in the void of failure for them
the easy way to circumvent this issue is simply not buying ANY game from western game studio, indie or corporate
Japanese studio have its own kind of infestation, but they always manage this issue because they know what makes money, so there's compromise, but its not exactly clean from social justice trash
Because you're consumers, not customers. The cattle don't talk back
the only games ive bought in the past couple years are indie games and elden ring. if they think theres some big woke audience waiting to play games until they add leftist propaganda let them stop buying their games they are fools bc they will make no money and money isnt infinite. just quit listening when they complain who cares what these freaks say anyway no one likes them anyway. lol
They really thought that was a burn, when these games are such financial failures that made studios shut down.
14:17 Ian Hamilton's intention behind his stats on white males tragically misses the fact that the demographic opposing identity politics in games are NOT just white males.
We'll vote with our wallets and support groups like SBI Detected. However, let's keep it civil and not harass or try to cancel the individuals in the other group the same way they do to us. These people are prisoners of their own machinations.
funny if he thinks more than 10% of people across the world support modern gender theory lol. 90% of the world is religious so we know his stats are bs.
It just occurred to me what that guy did with the numbers is that same manipulative misinformation that that SBI woman talked about!
"Scare the marketing team." So that they think that they need consultants like SBI. Then when things like this happen they minimize the issue.
"Oh you think these people are the voices of the players? Look at this they only have this many people in their little group. That's .00004% of the gamers. A drop in the bucket guys. And look 66% of gamers actually want diversity in games. So who are you going to trust? A number of people in an online group (ignoring that those who agree and support them are an unrecorded number) or this poll (where we use a rather broad term and you don't exactly know the sample size or where that sample was taken for the poll). We're winning!"
They are sneaky.
Very poor attempt at being sneaky given the current buybacks, extremely poor player count of “inclusive” games, and current status of companies that worked with SBI. 3 of them are closed
Damn. If even a smaal amount if us bought Suicide Squad we could be the majority...lmao. 😂
@@asteropax6469 current buy backs I agree should make investors think twice about trusting such numbers is they aren't paying attention to the voices of the people.
Poor player count just happens in bad games or games with very little replay value, they can say that it being inclusive has nothing to do with it, which is true. They can throw out examples like OW and Fortnite which is inclusive, then point to something like Anthem or that latest postal game.
Plus some of the studios shut down was going downhill long before hand.
I've been watching Volition closely for years (I don't think they worked with sbi as originally implied, an interview said they had their own in house dei team) and they were going down hill over a decade ago before this was a big deal. They didn't want to give players what they wanted even though they were listening to them and even interacting with them. They wanted to move away from Saints Row's origins. Once the reboot trailer hit I knew they weren't ever getting out of the hole they dug.
@@StarAllKungfu SS looked like cluttered ass and more of the same Injustice plot. I just wasn't interested in it. It didn't grab my attention.
but they can't event be sniky and cunnin, cus they give enop¿ugh information to make out the data
if we take all the statement at face value, the sample is around 2B people lel, that is like 1/3 of total population. how in the name of Jesus did you mange for 1/3 of the population to full your questionary???
and like 1.2ish billion support diversity, which is obviously a big fuking lie hahaha
These people really think the impact of SBI detected is small? B r u h.
The group now has (at the moment of writing) 242,700 followers. If every single follower from the group refuses to buy a AAA at 60 dollars, that's around 14 MILLION DOLLARS AND A HALF that the game won't receive.
You forgot the other part.
That is the lowest possible net loss, requiring presuming that is 100% of the people who refuse to buy are only on steam and have steam accounts that know about and will follow the list. Also for only avoiding one game released, and only for one year.
Given the language barrier threshold has been crossed, this has become a global boycott where they are using English-only people who still use steam after their own data breach scandal as the entire population.
The game sales lost just for being in the same vicinity as SBI is looking to have a market loss of trillions over time, not billions in a single year.
I have not joined the group because I'm not really on steam too much but I'll be fully supporting the boycott.
The real question that needs to be considered, how many of the groups members are the one who buy games day 1, how many are the ones who wait a few months for patches and reviews to see if it is worth playing or not, and many are the sale only players, and how many are others? as well, how many are going to track it but not leave themselves as members?
The steam player base is not just 1 group, any if you want to judge the impact of the curator you really need to know the break down of those different groups both as members and as a par t of Steam users as a whole.
Most of my steam library is stuff bought based on on reviews or sales. Only about 5% of it is games bought full price without checking reviews.
@@sjmcc13 It's not just avoiding the games that are out now that have SBI or other consultancy groups involved, it's also about training Steams algorithm to not recommend this shit to anyone else either. Mass 'ignoring' games will push them further and further down the listings.
And not everyone against this has the time to join Steam groups but are still connected enough to know what games to stay away from. Like me. I'm not joining Steam groups(I have Steam off unless I'm playing a Steam game like Rust). But I hear right quick today if a game is being sketchy or anti gamer in the tiniest way. Especially since the Battlefield bs yrs ago where they gaslit us for being annoyed about that lady ww2 soldier with the cyborg arm calling us misogynists etc.
If I even hear a cultural Marxist aka woke person or phrase is heard from anyone from any game or show or movie today I don't give them my money. To think they're all joined that Steam group and that is all the gamers who hate this insanity killing games today is juvenile of them. They just don't leave their echo chambers and prob only play with their peers who all think the same as them or alone.
I actually play with a massive diverse group in Guild Wars 2. Normal gamer bros, gay dudes and chicks, trans, young adult to 50s and from literally all over the world and they all hate that forced diversity shit and hate it as much as anyone. 250+ ppl of all kinds. These SB defenders also thinking it's all "white men" and all that white shit are just so detached or new to actual gaming. It's every legit gamer who hates this stuff. Any child can see it's killing games.
Rev: "it's either malice or incompetence"
Me: "Why not both"
Definitely both
**Both.*
and it's *NOOOOOOOT* GOOOOOD .....
man.
@@asdadsgsaadasf6043 But honestly the real problem is the incompetence. I honestly don't think people give that much of a damn about it being "woke", it's just that those who insert such things in this tend to be such talentless hacks that they ruin the games so much people are done with it and anything associated with it.
But is it incompetent maliciousness or malicious incompetence?
@@Dice-Z
I mean that is what it comes down to when everything is said and done.
These people are extremely incompetent they wouldn't know how to do stuff with subtlety if it beat them about the head and shoulders. It's like the old do things with a scalpel not with a chainsaw. If they did their jobs correctly no one would be aware of their existence at this point which tells you they failed on all levels.
The game journalists cries out in pain, as it strikes you.
yea
Oy vey
I gradually began to hate them
Game urinalists have no credibility left.
They've had none for quite some time now. This is just farming rage to get clicks at this point. Pathetic grifting like the rest of these people.
glad some ppl see pass the fogs. lot of ppl still see them as moron that didnt know what ppl want, instead bunch of vile creatures that know what they doing to push their agenda
They really are trying to create GamerGate 2.0.
And they think it's a GOOD THING
Elections are coming up so they need a new word to slander the competition.
Each Gamer pays for what they care about.
Last Time i checked these "Game Journos" never asked me about the Games i like to play.
Their Antics got Senran Kagura destroyed.
I am so pissed at them for it, i will try to became a Dev myself.
Famous Villain Oneliner aside, but can recall, that i never asked them for anything outside of the Game Reviews.
"I am so pissed at them for it, i will try to became a Dev myself."
And thus a villain (to some people) origin story has just begun.
@@vancomycinb1193
Yeah.
I will show them, how it's done.
In Life, unlike Boxing, there are no Ko's.
To me, a 24+ Hour Days mean nothing.
Struggling to get out of Bed each Day?
Couldn't care less about it.
As long as get up each following Day, i'll keep trying.
I will get where i want to go, if need be on Barefoot.
Which is why these Game Journo's Attitude...
That of Silver Spoon fed Jester Wannabes, thinking they can boss around their Customers, are the one Thing i can't stand.
These Noobs can go home, Now!
Let's see, how that Story goes.
@ToxicIdeaStorage Go get 'em, tiger!
"64% of players think diversity is important" ~ source, trust me bro
@@Ashurman666 It really isn't, games shouldn't have a checklist of human tropes required. Priorities should be making a good game in whatever vision the creator wants.
Diversity is important, diversity of gameplay.
@@gimpxors3 While I do agree, I respectfully, would like it if there were games that were diverse but not tarnishing the creators vision, unlike what SBI is doing here.
You are pure evil if you support diversity
@@Ashurman666 i agree in the fact that you cannot exclude people from anything because of their origin/race/group, but diversity these days has evolved into something that makes it a requirement to have atleast one of race/gender etc etc. If done in a correct way i really dont mind. But these days it just feels like people try to force their agenda onto us at every medium possible.
"bold to assume you are the target audience"...then why take already existing brand?
And my followup question would be "then who is cause there sure as hell nobody buying your game"
Anyone in the gaming industry defending Sweet Baby Inc is never a good sign. I think I heard someone working on The Insomniac Wolverine game defended them. If that's the case, then well I know what game I'm not buying. Honestly after Spider-Man 2 PS5, I shouldn't be surprised.
Writer she looks like you expect
I think it was in one of these SBI videos from Rev. The narrative director on Wolverine is a they/them slug who is openly racist/sexist against cis white males. Yeah... that bodes well for a game centered around a cis white male.
@thetruej7872
Should have known not to buy it just by the fact it's made by Insomniac... Spiderman 2, remember? It was infested with woke crud. Wolverine will be, too, I'd bet money on it.
Yeah shes part of the cult
I mean, sweet baby has their grubby paws in insomniac, so...
imagine if doctors were like "bold of dying people to assume they are the target audience" you'd think they are mental
It's fine to target a niche audience with your game, you just shouldn't expect Pokemon levels of profit when you do so.
They ARE mental. Just not for the reasons they want to project onto us. They're just flat out insane.
The AAA game costs billions to make, and the "developers" on Twitter try to convince you that they were only targeting a niche indie audience.
I never actually thought so many people would genuinely be this bothered and even feel threatened by my mere existence as a white male gamer.
Talk with your wallets, a merchant that looks like a "pirate" will always be there for us
Screw that noise. We shouldn't even do that. What we gamers should do is not give these companies even the smallest iota of attention. Just boycott everyone on that list. If no one is playing their games, not even pirating the games , they will finally know they fucked up.
Blackrock will fund them our wallets arent amount to much
@@АндрейНеугодников-м6еBlackrock's money is drying out
not if blackrock doesn't recieve funding itself @@АндрейНеугодников-м6е
@@АндрейНеугодников-м6еBlackrock's funds aren't limitless. The companies that made the woke Saints Row and Forespoken went out of business because people didn't buy their garbage.🤷♂️
If _Gamers_ are not the target audience in the first place then who is it? The mythical creatures "modern audience"? 😂
The day when they finally pray THAT into being will be the day i take my own life
I wish they'd tell us just who this 'modern audience' is coz they never seem interested in supporting the entertainment designed for them. When a property tanks we're told 'it wasn't for you'. The 'you' apparently being the vast majority.
No one. When game devs who also gamers make games for themselves, Helldivers 2 happen because other gamers can enjoy it too. But woke assholes game devs (and they much more happens to be in charge because they lick asses their way to the top) do not understand or enjoy games, so if they also dont even try to listen to actual gamers, then their games will be as detached from reality and playability as Forspoken and Gotham Knights.
😂if we are not a target audience then why don't they put lgbtq stamp or sweet baby logo in the game they collab with then? i mean they won't get mad if retailer regardless of whether online digital or phisycal put them on there product and inform buyers like you need to be either a lgbtq or woke supported to play this! Then lets see how many people going to buy it surely it not a crime for sellers to tell that info about the game itself hehe or put sticker to indicate it has lgbtq rating different from the m rating done in other games like mk?
@@tkps 🤣🤣🤣
Always those double standards.
SBI Detected: Simply informs which games are affiliated with SBI, nothing more.
SBI: Calls for massreporting SBI Detected
Yet they claim Karrutus is the one leading a harassment campaign...
Any other company would be hyped about the free advertisement, only if you know you're doing something shady,
would you be so upset about someone letting the world know in which projects you were involved in.
Big assumption to make by Ian Hamilton that the 64% of gamers who care about diversity (assuming that's accurate) will accept slop as long as it's diverse slop. I'd also question whether that statistic means what he thinks it means - diversity in games can mean a lot of things to a lot of different people, and even if it's universally interpreted as ethnically/culturally diverse, I would question how many of that 64% would accept a game that shoehorns diversity in where it doesn't make sense, or where it is the only thing that is positive about the game.
Would that 64% buy a game that has bad writing, bad gameplay and is a buggy mess, but ticks all the diversity boxes? I doubt it.
64%?! WOW!,,,
And yet Forspoken, Saints Frow reboot, and Suicide squad failed...
Do you think it should be illegal for there to be a black character in a video game? If you answer "No", you're in the 64%. That's how surveys work and why you should never take their results seriously.
The irony of them calling anyone else bad faith when they only got where they are through bad faith all these years.
Rules for radicals
Bro that mf sounds like vaush
Seriously no one would even know about them if they hadn't been in all these big games and also done a really crap job. If people can easily see what you've done then you failed at the very job you were hired for.
they will never have the moment "ARE WE ZE BAD GUYS?"
@@GhostAeonWolf Yeah that would take self awareness.
"We have to understand who the target audiences are"... So they keep targeting literally no one? 'cause there's like no one playing that shitty Suicide Squad game, and very VERY few people even bought it in the first place.
And Sony was refunding it, IIRC.
These people are deluded into thinking that they're the majority, look at the Bud Light fiasco for instance, the reason why that whole thing blew up wasn't even because of Dylan Mulvaney but because the CEO made the most snide contemptuous comments about how Bud Light needs to "move on" from the "bro" demographic and replace them with hip young woke and queer demos.
They openly fantasize about replacing you, but they don't get that most of the people they think they represent are nothing like them. These people really think that the whole damn world is ultra progressive like them and that a small collection of stubborn white conservative holdouts are the reason why we don't have a socialist utopia yet, they're living on another planet.
As far as i know its "very few" for a AAA game, i heared that after 1 million Sales, it took a hard nosedive, so i guess 1,5-2 million over the span of its life? But yeah, they didnt make their money back at all. When you add in the Servercosts and Marketing it will never make a profit.
@@neinne6693that means they probably lost tens of millions from it.
alas, they won't attribute that to the shitty writing that SBI had a big influence in...
Suicide Squad could have the best writing of all time and it would still be hot garbage. Would you really accept unfiltered dog slop if triple A devs painted it your favorite color? Standards people, have them.
I absolutely detest the absolute trash that is NEWZOO's dataset that voids any and all merits of anyone bringing it during a discussions about the PC/Console market. Here's what NEWZOO entirely failed at: Their dataset doesn't disclose that it doesn't take into account the dichotomy of today's gaming world. There's 2 gaming worlds: Long form PC/Console games and Short form Mobile Games and their demographics DO NOT MINGLE. 50% of players are women, yes, BUT 80% of that 50 will never, EVER, play anything other than Candy Crusher, Bejeweled type games. Which is fine. But why are they then included in a discussion about the bad effects of SBInc on Alan Wake 2, Kill the Justice league, etc? Because their inclusion massages the numbers in the right way.
Lies deceit and provocation
I dabble in games mostly Switch but I have a Steam Account and over 1000 hours in Starbound man I think I played it in early access! But… I still don’t like looter shooters and I don’t like SBI ruining what is supposed to be a break from modern nonsense talk. And it is it really is just nonsense talk. They will go on and on how much the love women when FMLA by law still does not have to be payed by law and you got moms opening saving accounts so they can take off time to take care of their newborns. So even if there are women gamers besides myself omg I still don’t care! I don’t want to talk social issues in my video game! Plus these hacks only rehash the battles that have already been won hence why I brought up FMLA where are you on that feminists?
And why they wanna make the number mingle that way? So they can get investors to stick around. Especially those that have the most shares in them like Blackrock.
Thats like the problem of any statistics, datamining and its the first ERROR that gets mentioned whenever someone teaches any of this shit. People dont want datasets to describe reality they just make the Data to compell to their wishfull thinking.
I bet my ass someone gave them actual reasonable gamers statistic but they didnt like it so after that it was remade to included mobile trash too so it looks more pleasing etc etc. Literally same shit as with Wage gap!
I like how the question that got 64% support was "Diversity in games is important to me" without any context.
If you asked someone who doesn't pay attention to this stuff online they could easily be confused by that question. E.g. "uh.. sure? It'd be boring if they're all first person shooters"
"We asked 200 gamers in SoCal: do you think it's important for games to try new things? 64% said yes"
This whole situation has been wild and elucidating. The amount of open racism and hate in this industry IS significant, and to no surprise, is coming from those who are loudest about being against it. Honestly, it just saves me money. We now have names, not just organizations, to recognize in order to avoid buying schlock in the first place. Turns out that huge spotlights on horrible behavior is actually useful. Who knew!
when kotaku is pissed at you, you are doing something right
A true badge of honor.
We enjoy our games free from the sweet baby stink
u seem to understand the true nature of gaming journalists but are you able to make the connection to mainstream media and mainstream journalists?
@@atomanni-k5m the fact that they're the same thing, and effectively the propaganda wing of the regime?
Someone PLEASE create a curator page for all those in the gaming industry who DEFENDED Sweet Baby Inc. They need to be boycotted all the same as any company with SBI involvement.
These people were losers in school and they’re losers now
SBI: "You are not the target audience lol"
Gamers: "Ok!"
SBI: "WHY IS NOBODY BUYING GAMES WE WERE INVOLVED WITH"
Game Companies: "Its okay babe, I'll lost another billion to you"
meh.... they can defend SBI all they want by calling us "not their target audience" , but dont be surprised when the sales wont reach the expected target
They do not need sales people who fund have more money than they can spend all they need is more souls to corrupt
Sales isn't the point; inflating the company's ESG score so Blackrock will invest in them is the point. In essence, Larry Fink is their target audience.
@@astronomybrainiac And look where it got Disney. And what happened to Rooster Teeth.
This is only profitable in the short term. Either that or only the big boss benefits from it.
Just to show you who these “Gaming Journalists” really are. Pure, unadulterated, DESPISE FOR GAMERS. They truly deserve the utter backlash…
now are you able to make the connection to other journalists? do you realize how they lie to us as well in many topics? Are you able to make the connection that those who the journalists hate like Trump are likely the best for the people just for the simple fact that the journalists hate them?
As a Newer Game dev, this entire situation is way the fuck out of hand. My goal as a game dev is to make a game that people can enjoy. if possible make several. I was taught that many devs do the same, but the state of game dev studios are corrupting that aspiration and turning it into agendas.
Diversity is great, but if it conflicts with the story or if it feels forced. Its not worth having in. I don't care if the person who plays is white, black, asian, male, female or anything in between. As long as they enjoyed my game even a little bit. I am happy.
Dude we devs are working our ass off with the absurd amount of standard for a regular game today, and then somehow these people with literally no knowledge whatsoever come and drown our hard work with their agendas. Companies need to learn that these people won't bring them any nickel nor dime.
Diversity isn't great, it's essentially a slang word for anti-white.
Remember, they need us WAY MORE than we need them...
All we have to do is NOT buy their games and then we win - it's as simple as that.
Me a European: Defuq are they doing over there?
No seriously, as someone who mainly plays JRPG's, Fighting Games and Platformers i just can't.....What?
I work for a few Weeks with little Internet, come back and the first thing i see these last few days is, the Internet on fire because of Wokeness, Racism, Game Journalysm, Virtual RUclipsr drama ,a giant bunch of scams ,and controversies.
I’ll try and summarise for you.
Several AAA games have been disappointments, being not fun to play, ruining beloved characters, or having their stories focus on diversity with the subtlety of an anvil to the face. A gamer in Brazil noticed a trend with these games having consultation work by Sweet Baby Inc, who offer ESG loan money to companies that hire them.The gamer created a Steam forum page listing all the games he can be certain they worked on. An employee from Sweet Baby Inc tried to shut down his forum page and get his Steam account wiped. That pretty much kicked the hornet’s nest, and now we are learning more about how SBI operates. With things like how their strategy if managers won’t listen to them is to terrify marketing into complying, their leader wanting to remove white men from the protagonist role, and tweets where people have said it’s not racism if you’re target white people.
Considering they advertise themselves as being all about equality and tolerance, finding out how intolerant they are of people who disagree with them has only made gamers madder.
@@cybertramon0012 Blackrock is even worse. But it was games like God of War and Baldur's Gate 3 that allows SBI and Blackrock to limp along in games.
also adding to what the other commentor said. One of the creators of SBI is the sister (Eileena Holowka) of the dev that offed himself (Alec Holowka) because Zoe Quinn accused him of some SA stuff. The sister backed Zoe Quinn, and IIRC they got money from the brother's death which was in turn used to fund the company that loans ESG money. the name of the other company they have is Baby Ghost, but they might also have ANOTHER one, I just can't remember off the top of my head.
add in: Weird ghost was the other name. and Alec Holowka started infinite ammo, another company that "donates" to Eileena's companies, even though the brother passed away. Minimal effort gaming put out a good video on it titled "Sweet Baby Inc Was Originally FUNDED By Deceased Developer Alec Holowka's Game Studio?!" at the 7 minute mark, it discusses what I listed above, if you are curious.
@TheBrahOfTheWeek It's basically leftist politics v everyone else. Gender theory, critical race theory, socialism, backed by corporatism. All while the rest of us only want to play a game like we used to back in the early 2000's. Sad thing is we won't win because blackrock the company supporting sbi and similar ones is too powerful. The CEO of that company has said, "You have to force behaviors." Movies, tv shows, and video games is how blackrock is doing it. Worse blackrock is in good with the Chinese government.
I will forever comment. How are these people able to conduct themselves this way in public and antagonize consumers.and still have a job and professional relationships
Because people refuse to meet them on the low road.
It's part of the Cathedral. They're not lying when they say you, gamers, are not the target audience. The king, whose ring they are kissing, is the target audience. Thus, these midwits, who already lost a competency crisis about 8-10 years ago, are trying to virtue signal for the crumbs for their actual handlers, various political interests. Note that games journalism and cushy tech jobs are on the chopping block. You'll then see why they're allowed. Critical mass at the cathedral where there are no competent people to guide the midwits anymore, cure that Spongebob trying to remember his name scene from you know what, just replaced with soyjack people.
Nepotism and connections.
Consequences of losing ww2
1) gamers are dumb
2) industry higher ups are dumb
3) investors are dumb
4) most of these dumb twitter activists are trying their hardest to invade every part of the industry
5) people fall for this BS, casual players and random workers in the industry who aren't particularly alligned with their values, but get it shoved down their throat so much they start believing it and thinking most people actually care about that, doesn't help if not doing so will have the activists and radicals attempt to ostracize and guilt you into submission
and more
2:30 There is only one group of people who are angry about SBI:
Normal People
"Support me by buying good bones!"
Don't mind me, just adding that to my ignored list.
literraly what i did while watching this video.
@@TheNlghtmareDid that when I read this comment.
LMAO I'm a disabled gamer, they don't fucking care, I've seen so many games with fixed controls and very little options I have to use external programs and hacks to play comfortably (and if it's online hope that I don't get banned for using said programs), but hey I don't complain cause I know I'm in the minority.
Even if you make your game accessible I won't pay a dime if it is woke garbage.
It’s basically like a fast food worker saying “bold of hungry people to assume they were our target audience”.
Imaging admitting that you're catering your games, out loud, to NO ONE. Couldn't be me.
I mean you always hear about this legendary "modern audience" but I have yet to ever see them. They must be like spirits or ninjas or something. Or like I assume people who simply don't buy the product that are supposedly made specifically for them.
@@JohnDoe-wq5euI’ve seen them. They do exist, but from what I can tell, there just isn’t enough of them (which is great for us, obviously). You will tend to see them on otherwise normie channels that are dipping their toes in this whole debacle. Mutahar’s video on SBI for instance. He doesn’t normally cover culture war stuff, so things like ESG and DEI haven’t been mentioned in any of his videos until that one.
The majority of the comments appeared to be on our side, but I saw quite a few dissenters that were trying to defend not just SBI, but the DEI stuff in general. One even flat out admitted that they would prefer to see “crappy diversity in their games” than “no diversity”.
@@gobalbucs
I mean the problem is the modern audience does exist but it's just an audience it's not a paying audience. What these people are doing is trying to force people into eating what they've made by trying to hide it and once you've swallowed it it's too late.
And as for "any diversity is good diversity" yeah I've seen that said to and we have a word for that it's called tokenism.
It used to be basically stereotyping but apparently we just call it something different now. You would think you would prefer to have diversity shown in a positive light not shoved down people's throats aggressively in a way that guarantees people will push it away like a "picky baby".
Just wanting to enjoy games without a pushed incentive towards woke nonsense shouldn't even be a hot take. But it's from game journalists and posts on Twitter, so I can't even pretend I'm shocked. Also, I find it ironic how they're all "we support minorities and are all inclusive" and then go "well your opinion is in the minority, so get the hell out". Honestly, it should just show they're not even worth listening to. These employees handled this with all the professionalism of a 12-year-old.
They support no one they are just grifting
They're double standards and complete lack of self-awareness lead to an absolute world class clown show.
There are several types of those people who "care about diversity": those who wish to kick out the current dominating group (cis white or whatever) and *be the next themselves*, those that are profiting from it, those that are just simply trolling, and those who actually care (and sadly have their voices drown in some of those previous ones).
@@voidmain7902 They all believe that they will be in control once the power structure which they perceive to be dominant is toppled, but they are nothing but useful idiots being manipulated from far above, by people that will stamp them out of existence once they cease being necessary. Watch the 1988 interview of ex-KGB member Yuri Bezmenov. It is VERY enlightening as to why things like this are happening, and how it will end.
@@voidmain7902 "those who wish to kick out the current dominating group (cis white or whatever) and * be the next themselves * "
THIS. It is specifically this, mostly for people in positions of authority. Notice how many of them outright say that you cannot be r@cist against white people. What kind of hostile actions against white people have they already normalized in their own heads? As far as I'm concerned, those who say this are very much racist, and are actively trying to create a social climate where such bigotry is normalized and encouraged. Beware these types if they enter the legal world, because the easiest way to make evil concepts into law is to have popular support backing it.
Why are game devs are so detached from gamers?
Most game-devs have progressed in the industry by pleasing other game-devs, not by pleasing gamers.
So when there's a situation like this, where they are made to pick a side. They will dismiss and insult gamers, to show loyalty to their fellow devs.
The devs who do show loyalty to gamers over game-devs, will find themselves blacklisted. Or find more roadblocks in their career.
So...bite your nose to spite your face situation?
These aren't game devs, they're activists.
People treat academics too seriously?
I knew that professionals who grew naturally and the professionals who were only in for the money and obtained their expertise solely by studying the subject can be very different and the latter could technically be more disconnected from, or even rewrite the industry.
@@voidmain7902 Not referring to academia at all.
What I'm speaking, applies to people who are self taught. And end up as either solo-indie devs, or with a small studio.
Picture a gamer who just wants to make games. So they start learning, and start hanging around in game dev communities.
This type of solo-dev, slowly becomes detached from gamers in this environment. And find easier success, by 'saying the right things' to get connected with the right people. With connections, who can get them jobs, or make them part of a game studio or team. Where they can actually start making games.
Once the dev is there, they have to be loyal to their game dev friends who got them there. They won't be loyal to gamers.
Most game devs (in my experience), go this route. And end up corrupted, by the things they have to do, to reach their dreams of making games. And become detached from gamers.
The other route is a much more harder one (on skill, effort & finances). Where the solo dev makes game on their own (or with a team they set up themselves) and then markets the game, creates a following. And does it all successfully. This way, they are independent, and their focus and loyalty, is exclusively to the gamer audience. This situation, is rarer. These devs, are rarer.
@@NetBattlerThey're both. There are quite a few developers who are on the Left; if you want to get ahead you follow the lead and become Woke since it's what most rich people seem to believe in. Don't think about as a set of rational beliefs and more as a social contagion.
Her death threat is so real that it looks like she got an image on google, added text on top, and screenshot it without any effort to properly edit the image and add any interface whatsoever to make it more believable
I love that devs and whatnot all openly jump in the same ship together. Its like, ok... I wont buy your games, your games, your games, or anything you have been apart of. Thank you for letting us know :D Is someone making a more thorough steam list of all the past and present gamergate people so we can avoid them like the plague too?
They must virtue signal to their peers, but that only makes them all the easier to avoid.
Alt title: Subhumans SHAMELESSLY Defend Sweet Baby Shit.
Another Alt Title: Cartel adds another person to their hitlist for disrespecting Toriyama Sensei
Or "Reptilians support SBI as they bash costumers; Mexican Cartels are getting their passports and Visas to visit SBI CEO and employees ASAP"
Oy vey, that is anti-semetic!
Its gotten to a point where these subhumans call others subhumans for being white straight males.
The failure of games like Suicide Squad proves they cant even get their target audience to buy their games. If we're such a minority of gamers, shouldnt our dollar not matter? Shouldnt their games be successes regardless?
Sweet Baby inc more like Dead Baby Inc.
stillborn inc
Aborted because of detected brain rot at 12 weeks.
Yeetus Deeletus the Fetus.
I want a mod into The Binding of Isaac that changes Blubaby boss into Sweetbaby lol
so i can annihilate him by some op brimstone combo with even greater pleasure
Based Goku
About 12 years ago I didn't think anyone would dare try to top Don Mattrick in PR Gaming failures, but here we are.
It's great to see some gave devs opposing them too, like Running with Scissors joining It with a pic of the Postal Dude pissing on their logo.
Imagine looking at 14 million dollars and wanting nothing to do with it at all. There's over 200,000 people on that list now and games are $70 a piece. Do the math.
shitload of money this Malicious crybaby costs the companies.
Devs in the 90s: We can turn our passion. Our love of gaming, into a business!
Devs today: We can make money, and inject our ideals at the same time. When's lunch time?
Making Money seems to be the complete opposite of Injecting their Ideals.
If the group is small why are they afraid??
They also fail to account for the huge amount of POC gamers who oppose their cringe agenda
I literally had to google how to join a steam group since I'd never even heard of groups before this controversy. I assume I'm not the only one so the group only represents a fraction of people who dislike Sweet Baby Inc.
Kotaku sucks anyway. Nobody actually cares what they have to say about anything. There's a reason certain publishers have blacklisted them
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Sweet Baby Inc and their defenders just keeps shooting themselves in the foot. Great video Rev.
Wonder how many people in the hidden replies pointed out that, as Rev said, since all the curator group does is tell what games SBI worked on, they should be happy for it if they were proud of their work?
I don't use twitter but don't think Rev showed any replies to someone mentioning it
My favorite part is them saying all gamers are racist and not their target audience, yet somehow, 64% of us think diversity is important and we matter. Like please, choose your poison ?
I looked up the Newzoo study being cited. The DEI section is paywalled, but it states a sample size of 74,295, which is less than a third the number of subscriptions of the SBIDetected list. This does not reflect poorly on Newzoo's data or methodology, but rather our friend Ian's inability to understand statistics.
Hold on. I need to check Ian Hamilton's math here.
200k people is .007% of gamers?
So 2 million would therefore be .07%, 20 million would be .7%, and 200 million would be 7%.
So 100% of "gamers" would be 3.2 billion people.
Is he really trying to claim that almost half the world's total population are computer gamers and would call themselves such?
I find that a little hard to believe.
Bro can't even do math. I'm not referring to you.
"Oh, you played Candy Crush one time on your phone? That makes you a gamer!"
Safe bet those ststistics are utter bs. Seriously, what sources and data are they citing?
If you wanna do some more math, he claims that 64% of players want equality. However, a more careful inspection of that graph he shows from Newzoo shows that poll only took into account 58,040 participants. 37k is somehow bigger than 200k in that guy's mind.
Those same stats are likely the ones they use to say over 50% of women play videogames because they have Angry Birds on their phone. Gaming is still a big market and likely is over a billion users especially thanks to Asian countries where it's been more socially acceptable for longer. That said, even his numbers are hilarious. 40% of US gamers are white men, he said, and 30% of US pop are white men. He's still stating that white men are disproportionately gamers than other groups (I suspect women are largely the group not playing games).
Also just noticed that YT says gamers isn't a real word.
At this rate, we should compile lists of people who side or work with Sweet Baby Inc. (and woke individuals in general) and send them to companies to ensure that they don't hire these people.
Yeah. Should have been done ten years ago.
@@ChainedFeiif we do that then we're no better does sweet baby ink or the woke mob that tries to cancel people and get other people fired and barred from employment if we do that there were no better than the enemy we're trying to fight
I honestly fully agree with this. Like a SO do not contact EVER list, but for horrible people in a different way.
Belittling and insulting the paying customers is a business model that only really works for dominatrixes. And even then they have the morality to atleast have safe words.
😂 hahhahahaha, never though about that one !
I hand craft shoes. People with feet are not my target audience....this is how ludicrous they sound.
I can't believe more effort is being put into making games "diverse" instead of *accessible*.
Y'know, full key rebinding, ESPECIALLY CONTROLLER, with all button prompts (xbox/ps/nintendo), and to a lesser degree arbitrary resolution and framerate support. I can't even play some games because of their lack of input support (and most are AAA, ironically). Meanwhile, crowds like SBI and related "wokeism" are infinitely louder than people in my position struggling to even enjoy our lifelong hobby because of disability issues.
It's genuinely insulting.
R.i.p. akira toryama
I won't forgive them after what they've done to the late Akira Toriyama. I don't want sweet baby Inc to have anything to do with the Chrono trigger remake
I really don't understand how me finding blatant racism distasteful turns me into an alt right yatze...
But ok go off game journo, I won't interrupt my enemy while they are making a mistake
Its a super knotseye god super knots eye you want?
Then its what you get!
Has been my response since day one.
@@TT09B5Which is ironic because political extremists end up touching ideological tips.
@@casualcausalityy That was what I used to think but someone once said that people in or near the center cannot bring about change and I am starting to agree. Fence-sitting doesn't help at all and both sides can use them as an argument to garner more people on their side. So, if you see something you hate you should just go on the extreme opposite until it doesn't serve your purpose.
@@Natsukashii-Records Oh I agree having identified as a centrist most of my life. Finding a comfortable place between the center and extremes is the best option.
Being a polite and reasonable centrist often gets exploited by these thieves who say the right things without meaning. We need to defend our principles
@@casualcausalityy
Well I mean they talk about "moving the goalpost" but in this case we're talking about moving where the line is that delineates people in the middle.
I always kind of considered myself extremely liberal technically speaking even though I mostly did fall in the middle with my opinions. But then the left really started getting crazy and I pretty much had no choice but to start going the opposite direction because it was literally becoming what it is now a left-leaning fascist movement.
That's literally what I see with companies supporting and sweet baby themselves. You're either with us or you're the enemy.
I checked and sbi detected curator is in the 6th place of all steam curators
How does pc gamer has so many subscribers?
I for one will always take to the high seas to test the waters before putting down my anchor on islands to look for adventures. Who knows, you just might find some hidden treasures.
Alyssa "HACKERMAN" Mercante , the infiltrator who clicked the public discord link with her mouse
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Touch some grass, was a nice touch hahahha Ty for the cover this hole thing Rev. Regards from Brazil
Its funny that supposed gaming "news" channels like Bellular and YongYea absolutely refuse to acknowledge this at all.
Bellular has nothing to gain from this, they've always positioned themselves as switzerland and their audience is all over the place. No matter which position they took, taking a position on it (or even seeming to) would only harm their channel. Yong Yea likes to think of himself the same way but everybody knows he isn't neutral.
If anyone stays silent on this, assume they are compromised shills and/or closes activists themselves. Case in point, the 2 names you mentioned.
Yong's from LA now. Of course he won't talk about it
Yong is actually evil, terrible voice actor too
Don't expect anything from closet activists/compromised shills like those 2;
Be sure to leave (honest) negative reviews on all sweet baby games if you have any, especially if it could pertain to their specific contributions to the game! Just don't mention SBI by name so they can't wave it off as review bombing.
I did try and warn people against this I really did but no one wanted to listen to the "if you keep doing the same thing it'll happen again."
well, certainly is fun to see more things burning...
These people are going to learn the hard way. When their games don't sell they'll literally go into a panic and they'll be FORCED to change.
Sweet Baby Inc is a Blackrock company , Blackrock have lots of money to give to gaming industy ... See why
But considering the mass layoffs, he's not giving much of that money to them.
This is why these companies don't care about customer experience, it's only their second source of income.
@@iburuma3621 But that first source not enough on the long term.
Just look at what's happening to Disney and what happened to RT.
Even if we take his numbers as true, that's not how it works. Not being in the SBI Detected group does _not_ equal blind support for SBI and others like them. If the vast majority of people supported them, surely they wouldn't need to private their twitter accounts, hide replies and they wouldn't get community noted on their BS.
i genuinely can't understand corpos pulling the "if you don't like it, don't get it" card.
i don't mind if they use it as long as they don't bother outside their target audience.
But these people pull that card and get angry when people actually not interacting with their products.
We live in age of "Great Idiocracy"
Honestly i think its malice
They're like the kid in school that'd kick you so you'd push them and they can go running to the teacher.
bold of them to assume this will keep them from loosing a lot of money
Rev: "Are they unethical or incompetent". I say they're both.
Right off the back of failed games and studio shutdowns, I hope they continue to do what they are doing, and I'll give my money and time to the amazing Indie, AA, and Asian markets who deserve it.
They deserve everything they get.the whole Toriyama situation was the last straw for me.
What did they even say?
@@АндрейНеугодников-м6е they insulted basically the guy who made the modern series (anime western anything) said that dbz sucked... and then said it had bad black chars essentially pissing on his grave
@@АндрейНеугодников-м6е Some were calling him racists while others are just trolls using Toriyamas death as some sort of..."hate clout"
@@turbobrent9435 i do not understand this "hate clout"
@@АндрейНеугодников-м6еThe main instigator, the SBI employee that started the harassment campaign against the SBI Detected Steam page, essentially said that Toriyama made the best and worst black characters in anime all in one show. Obviously by "worst" she was likely referring to Mr. Popo who many people wrongly assume to be based off of black stereotypes, but he is probably actually based off of Djinn or the Hindu god Mahakala.
The person claiming to infiltrate the public discord server is probably my favorite
Didn't another big company try pulling that whole "if you don't like it don't buy it" shtick? Last I remember, it didn't work out too well for them and they never did it again (looking at you DICE).