These modes should be this (or 2v10) instead of 1v5, the map is too big and split pushing too easy for 1v5 to work (outside of a specific few heroes like BB)
In the first game, you had more then enough dmg, all you needed was more survivebility... just get heart so you can survive the stunlock and then kill them. Also killing rax instead of trying to go for towers would really help. I know big creeps are not scary for heroes at all, but at least your creeps would be able to kill their creeps, push lines and make some buffer for you if they kill you.
This is such a great idea for a video, i would love to see more. I think it has a lot of replay value with all the heroes and strats you can do, especially with a few tweaks to the balance
i feel like every time, the problem with every 1v5 thing is splitpushing, backdooring, ratting, and getting disabled. I don't know if making buildings stronger would fix the issue, because the problem is that its always a *base race*. maybe if the map was like a single-lane all-mid type thing, so you cant push without killing the enemy(s)
The problem with 1v5s is that the map is naturally 3 lanes. So while you defend a lane, another is being pushed and farmed. Whole enemy team gets farm uncontested and all you can do is cry as you get strong when they have megacreeps. That being said. I think you could only have a chance with Razor. The ultimate alone just wins you the game even without damage upgrades lol
There really needs to be quite a lot of additional rules for this type of mode to work. Otherwise its just constant weiner picks/strats by the 5 such as doom, bane, full team of stuns, backdooring, etc. Doom and bane in particular are just the worst heroes to allow in this type of mode and should straight up be perma banned from it because they remove the 1 from the game. Both are individually just straight up 10-15 seconds of 5v0 because the 1 cant do anything meaningful to prevent it, both together on the 5 is just straight up weiner behaviour.
there are few heroes that can win this mod easily: - alchemist, focus on acid - puck with slowing down the orb speed then max orb damage, distance, etc. - sandking max out sandstorm and sandstorm's effect - necro max aura in short, any hero that have a skill that set certain place into an aoe
Question: What when the 1 player picks treant? You upgrade the duration of living armor and the healing and armor, you metorhammer the enemy tower over and over again and they will never be able to get to your ancient. Its a 4 hour game but in theory it would work
Yep, it is. Baumi even played it like that a few days ago, maybe you can find the video if interested. Towers with 400 armor and 200hp/sec regen are unbeatable :D
@@joelhaupt1795 Aha, good idea. I think he would be able to protect T3 in time, so they wouldn't be able to push them. But treant also can't push back or TF the whole team. So they would probably just farm enough items and then dive him into the base, trying to kill him enough, so he wouldn't be able to protect the towers enough. But then Baumi could TP out and hide in the trees somewhere. Probably infinite game where no one can end for like 2 hours. Then after baumi would boost his Q enough to fight them, he could push and finish :D What do you think?
Probably not, they were chain stunning him so maybe if he had a slight opening but it didnt look like they gave him any. Really I think he needed to keep refresher in his inventory to at least let the cd tick while he’s dead or just let it refresh completely, he really couldnt fight without it. Even at the end, I think he could have bkb refresher to end the game tbh or just build more tanky with s&y and enough hp to tank through it all, thought that would be hard with necro on the enemy team
stun is always biggest problem in mod like this, so should go for heroes that 1) can't be stunned(ex. lifestealer) 2) do something while stunned(ex. lesh)
yup just as i said before the 5 man team can just rat down the one hero and/or stomp him before he boosts enough. need some kind of anti rat measure for the solo hero, that being said baumi being allergic to the glyph button doesnt help either. probs wouldnt have saved his games but would of certainly slowed down the pushes
As oracle u can make rain of destiny (aghanim skill) global, apply heal reduction 100%, and deal super high damage + last for minutes. This means everyone on map is doomed if they didn’t manage to recive 100% mag resist by buffing some neutral items
The edict duration completely ruined Baumi's DPS :D That was the game-losing mistake. Instead of the duration (anything above 20-25 sec was harming instead of helping), pick ulti boosts or stun boosts and it's much easier to fight, push quickly etc.
You should do a rematch but your side has stronger buildings to prevent/delay the easy rat which made the game honestly really boring despite your efforts. Aside from your questionable build items, the rat was just too strong.
I propose the same game mode but towers are much more stronger and invulnerable for the first 20mins that way you won't get ratted and no pussy play cause this game was just plain boring lmao
Just dont play 1v5 anymore man, this looks really unfair considering they have 5 brains and you have 1. They can select any counter heroes no matter what you pick and they can split push easy. The worst gamemode imo.
BOOOOO SUCH WEINER PICKS - doom and bane vs just one hero is just rude. Just shows that most of the scaling that matters here is items and the 5 man gets farm just as fast if not faster than poor Baumi.
Holy shit that was painful to watch All the wrong items all the wrong plays You didn't even try to win Surely you were trolling right? How many hours do you have in dota and you still don't know the basics
Petition for baumi to try this again
seconded, this is so fun to watch
We do need a part 2 of this
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Absolutely. I feel like Bristleback could be a good way to maybe actually win some team fights, just through sheer staying power and AOE damage.
I propose a 2 vs 8 with the same premise!
These modes should be this (or 2v10) instead of 1v5, the map is too big and split pushing too easy for 1v5 to work (outside of a specific few heroes like BB)
Or do it again as 1v5 but use the small map
In the first game, you had more then enough dmg, all you needed was more survivebility... just get heart so you can survive the stunlock and then kill them. Also killing rax instead of trying to go for towers would really help. I know big creeps are not scary for heroes at all, but at least your creeps would be able to kill their creeps, push lines and make some buffer for you if they kill you.
I think the play on the shadow fiend was to go full tank. Get a ton of status resistance and hp, you can still kill them quickly with the upgrades.
Baumi: it's impossible to defend
*proceeds to defend anyway*
Baumi: I deal a million damage and can push way faster
*proceeds to defend anyway*
This is such a great idea for a video, i would love to see more. I think it has a lot of replay value with all the heroes and strats you can do, especially with a few tweaks to the balance
Maaan! Immediate Zeus and necro against you. This is gonna be hard...
i feel like every time, the problem with every 1v5 thing is splitpushing, backdooring, ratting, and getting disabled. I don't know if making buildings stronger would fix the issue, because the problem is that its always a *base race*. maybe if the map was like a single-lane all-mid type thing, so you cant push without killing the enemy(s)
The problem with 1v5s is that the map is naturally 3 lanes. So while you defend a lane, another is being pushed and farmed. Whole enemy team gets farm uncontested and all you can do is cry as you get strong when they have megacreeps.
That being said. I think you could only have a chance with Razor. The ultimate alone just wins you the game even without damage upgrades lol
That was amazing, what a breath of fresh air, need 3h version of this
There really needs to be quite a lot of additional rules for this type of mode to work.
Otherwise its just constant weiner picks/strats by the 5 such as doom, bane, full team of stuns, backdooring, etc.
Doom and bane in particular are just the worst heroes to allow in this type of mode and should straight up be perma banned from it because they remove the 1 from the game. Both are individually just straight up 10-15 seconds of 5v0 because the 1 cant do anything meaningful to prevent it, both together on the 5 is just straight up weiner behaviour.
I agree. i also would expand that rule to heroes like NP or lycan, all heroes that will just permapush and never engage
there are few heroes that can win this mod easily:
- alchemist, focus on acid
- puck with slowing down the orb speed then max orb damage, distance, etc.
- sandking max out sandstorm and sandstorm's effect
- necro max aura
in short, any hero that have a skill that set certain place into an aoe
Too many upgrades needed, those are maybes
Just like the frustration not being able to win a game to show in the video.
Herald gameplay?
Question: What when the 1 player picks treant?
You upgrade the duration of living armor and the healing and armor, you metorhammer the enemy tower over and over again and they will never be able to get to your ancient. Its a 4 hour game but in theory it would work
Yep, it is. Baumi even played it like that a few days ago, maybe you can find the video if interested. Towers with 400 armor and 200hp/sec regen are unbeatable :D
@@papuce2 yes, he played that build in normal boosted, i was wondering about how effective it is in this 1v5 scenario
@@joelhaupt1795 Aha, good idea. I think he would be able to protect T3 in time, so they wouldn't be able to push them. But treant also can't push back or TF the whole team. So they would probably just farm enough items and then dive him into the base, trying to kill him enough, so he wouldn't be able to protect the towers enough. But then Baumi could TP out and hide in the trees somewhere. Probably infinite game where no one can end for like 2 hours. Then after baumi would boost his Q enough to fight them, he could push and finish :D What do you think?
@@papuce2 he would never engage, buy blink windwaker and meteor hammer. Just chip their buildings slowly until after like 4 hours he wins
The fact that baumi keep putting mkb in backpack and always miss an attack that would 1 shot them otherwise hurt
i think if each team have a hero that can boost, it would be cool, so other 4 player on each team would focus on supporting the boosted hero
damn playing as rats even on 5v1 the level of tryhard is on another level
for that sf game i swear wind waker would have solved every one of his problems instead of disperser
Probably not, they were chain stunning him so maybe if he had a slight opening but it didnt look like they gave him any.
Really I think he needed to keep refresher in his inventory to at least let the cd tick while he’s dead or just let it refresh completely, he really couldnt fight without it. Even at the end, I think he could have bkb refresher to end the game tbh or just build more tanky with s&y and enough hp to tank through it all, thought that would be hard with necro on the enemy team
3rd game reminds me of navi grand finals at TI.
stun is always biggest problem in mod like this, so should go for heroes that
1) can't be stunned(ex. lifestealer)
2) do something while stunned(ex. lesh)
I definitely recommend Manta Style for dispel/pushing illusions on SF
yup just as i said before the 5 man team can just rat down the one hero and/or stomp him before he boosts enough. need some kind of anti rat measure for the solo hero, that being said baumi being allergic to the glyph button doesnt help either. probs wouldnt have saved his games but would of certainly slowed down the pushes
Yeah i was screaming to glyph so many times
We NEED a part 2 baumi please
As oracle u can make rain of destiny (aghanim skill) global, apply heal reduction 100%, and deal super high damage + last for minutes. This means everyone on map is doomed if they didn’t manage to recive 100% mag resist by buffing some neutral items
Dude 5 counter heros lol 5 targeted ulti.. They all rats too what a toxic bunch 😂
with buffed towers this should be playable
what about attack/dmg cast spells 1v5 normal heroes?
All you need to continue increase explosion for kills and then only duration so you could get more tickets for more upgrades
Should buy deso or cuirass for pushing
Passive bloodstone as always
Wonder how it would go if towers were a lot sturdier and stronger
Do this more!
Baumi can we try dota 2 but dire can consume items and radiant can upgrade abilities like boosted?
1 hour vid
I loved this
Batrider firefly would go so hard
The edict duration completely ruined Baumi's DPS :D That was the game-losing mistake. Instead of the duration (anything above 20-25 sec was harming instead of helping), pick ulti boosts or stun boosts and it's much easier to fight, push quickly etc.
Why he first chose max soul in grey box instead yellow? Yellow max soul is better +5%
this was a fun mode.
do 10 h of this xd i like it
Play again with spirit breaker, spectre Medusa, phantom lancer, necrophos, undying, OD, lifestealer
I think with hurricane pike it would be more viable and maybe end in a win with SF
You should do a rematch but your side has stronger buildings to prevent/delay the easy rat which made the game honestly really boring despite your efforts. Aside from your questionable build items, the rat was just too strong.
I love this.
Just upgrade requiem dmg at death an its a free rampage every time you die
I think they had a shorter death cd but i cant rmb exactly
Items vs abilities edition...
the unluckiest game of boosted lol
I like it!
44:49 what was that max hp increase ??
he leveled up to lvl 3
that lesh gameplay, you're playing too defensively.
had you been more aggressive you can win that match
do this again please
2 boosted vs 5?
mb boosted, but you win if your base destroyed?
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I think bloodseeker is to strong to fail
I propose the same game mode but towers are much more stronger and invulnerable for the first 20mins that way you won't get ratted and no pussy play cause this game was just plain boring lmao
Bleebloop
Leshrac rematch
nice
Viper 1vs5 please
😂you lost but gg
Painful to watch, please make rules so they can only atk building when you're dead.
Just ban meteor hammer. 1vs5 and meteor is stupid :v
Redo this but 3 vs 8 or something
Just dont play 1v5 anymore man, this looks really unfair considering they have 5 brains and you have 1. They can select any counter heroes no matter what you pick and they can split push easy. The worst gamemode imo.
10:06
Lmao boost will win
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BOOOOO SUCH WEINER PICKS - doom and bane vs just one hero is just rude. Just shows that most of the scaling that matters here is items and the 5 man gets farm just as fast if not faster than poor Baumi.
1h pure waste of time 🎉🎉🎉 you have to be happy! 😒
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Enemy was annoying. Pushing coz they couldnt win the fight. Team of babies
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SF - gets Zuse and necro
Mars- literally cant do anything
Less- doom and Game just said NOPE.
truely a game of RNG.
Holy shit that was painful to watch
All the wrong items all the wrong plays
You didn't even try to win
Surely you were trolling right?
How many hours do you have in dota and you still don't know the basics
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