The problem with equating outward appearance to holiness is it always requires man made standards. A women is to have long hair and men should have short hair. what makes the hair long? Uncut. Than what makes hair short? Women should not wear pants because that’s what men wear. But men can’t wear shorts. Not to mention men having facial hair where does that come from? It’s just a lot of man made standers
The beard issue became a problem in the sixties. Simply put it came from prejudice against the hippie movement. A lot of church organizations started adopting grooming standards that would keep those kinds of people out of the church and we need to be wise enough to put those things aside. Jesus said that the leaders of his people taught the teachings of men and that his people loved it, so we know where he stands on this issue. Jesus Christ never minced words. UPCI often does. I watched this organization split over television with the WPF and I'm going to be blunt ... both sides were wrong. I said it then and I'll say it now, if you're going to teach pastoral worship and demand that you never stand up to leadership then that rule applies to ministry as well not just the laity, Flash! I had a pastor one-time preach the all it because of the times about dividing the word and dividing the church. Someone needs to put a bug in the Apostle Paul's ear as well because he was stood Peter to his face in front of everybody. Here we teach it should be done in a board meeting in private if it all. Depends on what your credentials are. But now they'll vote TV into the church, but will ostracize a man with a beard and God forbid that you let one in the Pulpit with a beard! We need to put this hypocritical nonsense to rest. We also need to be flat-out honest about the prejudices some of our older members had and stop trying to throw a stumbling block in front of our brother who for whom Christ died. Do I have a beard? No I don't. Have I grown one yes many times after I got out of the military. It's a biblical non-issue for me. Where it is going to become an issue is on Judgement Day for all the Pentecostals who rejected a brother walking in the church getting baptized in Jesus name filled with the Holy Ghost ... but he had a beard so they wouldn't associate with him or rejected him because he wouldn't cut it. God help the hypocritical Pastor who stepped in the pulpit and stomped all over that lamb because of a non-biblical standard that he established in his church. I'll be blunt, because they won't ... their's going to be a brutal day in hell for those types of pastors and aints alike. I'm currently in one of the fastest-growing churches in my state. They are doing outreach heavily to the drug and alcohol communities and helping people with addictions and it is hair-lipping all the Pentecostal preachers around the area who don't like that this church has baptized over 900 people in the past 4 years in a very small town and the church is full of new converts who haven't put on the UPCI catechism yet. One of those psstors snarkily asked me, "Did they kept all 900?" I told him, "No ... but you didn't either with your 20, so leave the man alone!" Also going to be a cold day in judgment for those judgmental pastors that want to stomp on another preacher's Revival. God needs to deliver us of our jealousy.
Praise God! This is one of my favorite videos. Your daughter is precious and I pray I can show my daughter how to value holiness and live by what the bible says ❤
Why UPC celebrates December 25, pagan belief..?I I just heard from this man he saved ...oh! Did God come already? Judgement is not yet come or finished? He that endureth till the SHALL (present tense)
Very good discussion. I've seen people absolutely destroyed by a tyrannical pastor that went way overboard with holiness standards enforced without love.
Yeah most upc church's can can go overboard when it comes to the whole thing of holiness i think what's missed today is that once you hear about holiness now there's a time that you need to walk it out Romans 12:1-2 has been one of my favorite scripture where vs 1 is of utmost importance but vs 2 says be no longer or do not copy the patterns of this world so the whole thing of sanctified life is soooo important and i have to agree with them but at times it or they can go overboard i'm watching a church service from Austin TX they're united pentecostal church so they're oneness doctrine Jesus Only baptism holiness is important to them a person if they're saved and holy ghost filled will say that you can't do certain things if your saved and holy ghost filled they're big into being seperated from the world they go by the apostle doctrine that jesus 🙏 for his disciples about being in the world but being seperated from the world meaning don't participate in ungodly activities not to be equally yoked together with unbelievers to them that's important so they take the word of God seriously and that's good it is but it can become a works mentality if were not careful most of your other denominations mostly dont teach much on the holiness they do some church's teach sanctification and justification but to be honest some minister's believe that you can go to movies go to dance clubs watch 📺 or even have a drink here and there but won't say if it's wrong or not that's why we need to know our doctrine
This video is excellent! Being an Apostolic Pentecostal all my life this gives me joy to see it explained so beautifully, I pray everyone will take this to heart and live for God in our separation to Him and from the world. This world needs us to be strong and do! They will come to us. ❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Excellent discussion! Clarifying many questions the general public may have about the Christian lifestyle. We are all a work in progress to meet our maker.
I love it! I love it! We must address these (unpopular) topics HEAD-ON. If we don't they will slip. And the boarders of our surrender to God will retreat, until very little will be left. God bless Bro. Bernard & the UPCI fellowship.
Sounds like this video was edited quite a bit, so addressing issues was not communicated well. Dressing modestly can vary even for those in this denomination. Addressing women's fashion choices seriously needs to be re-visited and discussed . Women's clothing , attire, and accessories has changed since the early 1900's when many of these rules were implemented for women. There are plenty of contradictions. Why tell a woman she can't wear jewelry, but yet her dress, shoes, and even her hair can be adorned with beads, rhinestones, barrettes, and ribbons? There are modest pants that don't have to fit tightly like leggings. Why could a woman not wear those? I've also seen UPC women wear tight fitting skirts and dresses just above the knee, yet they look down on pants? Costly array? Please. The dresses worn and the shoes worn in this denomination look expensive. I know many women who buy designer clothing. Is there seriously a cost limit on how much women can spend on their clothes? When will the judgmentalism against women end?
Thank you so much for such videos.I’m a Pentecostal in Zimbabwe that appreciates the word of the Lord as it is.I’m liking how you are quoting scriptures as they are and not modernizing them.Holiness does not evolve or is not dynamic everything we do we need to revert to the Bible.
It's quite some years I've been battling, confused, and been asking thousands of questions about this matter. But it's right, instead of trying to prove ourselves, reason out for our principle, or whatever we believe is right to live in, why not try to change our motivation? what or who am I really living for? what can I give more to glorify Jesus? It was been said unless we die, Christ cannot live ----- it includes our passion, it cost even our desire as an individual, and much, even more, our lives. As an apostolic Pentecostal for 12 years now, I received a lot of criticism, but here's my testimony-- IT'S WORTH FIGHTING & LIVING FOR. Living for Christ is the best life I ever lived. At the end of this life--- It's not about me, IT'S ABOUT MY PRECIOUS JESUS. So if somebody here is still having a hard time believing and following --- keep searching & keep praying. Holy Ghost is the best teacher. God bless us all.
In reference to the Afghanistan comment: Some years ago brother Bernard shared with the general conference that there were missionaries in many of the declared Islamics state countries. But, it could not be revealed who they were, or the countries they were in for safety sake. And I would imagine for the spread of the gospel sake as well. Lest they be hindered in their work or even persecuted.
Amen. Holiness is who God is..... The devil tries to act and copy many things that God has made to deceive people, but he fails to copy and act Holiness because that is who our God is; and he cannot be God. Being partakers of Jesus's (our God) Holiness is a greater victory, not only to triumph over the enemy but also to see God even as pilgrims in this world.
What I don't like about this type of denominations is that you have to agree and believe everything they say, otherwise they won't let you participate in their congregations, or be their members but, they love taking your tithes and offerings from your pockets.
A person who has been filled with the Holy Ghost won't have so much bad to say about this video. God said to be Holy. So be holy in all manner even conversation.
No church should have standards of holiness. Those are rules. Each person needs to discern what the will of God is in their own lives. One woman believes holiness means skirts to her knees. Another woman believes it means skirts to her ankles. One woman can wear a wedding ring only, another believes that earrings are acceptable. This discussion quickly evolved into outward holiness primarily. 35By this everyone will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another.” Not by your dress. Did they even touch on the fruit of the Spirit which is an outflow of Christs Spirit in a believer? I must have missed it.
I am sorry that you have had a bad experience. I have been in the apostolic church since 1986 and never look back. Don’t know why you would consider especially after being one of us that we are a cult. I have noticed that sometimes but not often those that leave us are against us but not often thank God. It reminds me when king Saul was anointed by God and then he fell away to the point of killing the priest of God. He became an enemy of God and David took his place.
Great teacher of the Word of God: I have his book 'The Oneness Of God' which I highly recommend: great discussion with these two, God bless in Jesus name
The word of God says, " be Holy , because I am holy " . This doesn't mean Christians looking different outwardly, but through our fruit . I can wear skirts to the floor and be a jerk ! I can wear pants , makeup , and jewelry with holiness standards. I agree with him , there is a time and place for clothing . I believe these old fashion standards needs to be clarified toward ladies . The reason I am saying this is because ..wear bling on their headbands, apple watches, and wedding rings . But on my ..gosh if she wears a pair of earrings ! These standards set a precedence that Christianity only looks ONE WAY !
In my experience, many upci women promote self-righteousness, gossip, passive-aggressive behaviors, and constant drama, which makes their holiness of the heart appear anything but Christ like. It's a very telling witness.
The context of one of the primary scriptures: Hebrews 12: 6 For whom the Lord loveth he *chasteneth* , and scourgeth every son *whom he receiveth* . 7 If ye endure *chastening* , God dealeth with you as with sons.... 9 ...shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? 10 ... for our profit, that we might be *partakers of his holiness* . 11 Now no *chastening* for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable *fruit of righteousness* unto them which are exercised thereby. *God* corrects anyone he receives as sons (and daughters).... He corrects / chastens / sourgeth so that *we might be partakers of his holiness* In other words - God makes you Holy, through correction, reproof, instruction (2 Tim 3:16-17). 12 Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees; 13 And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed. 14 Follow peace with all men, and *holiness* , without which no man shall see the Lord: (the context of holiness). 18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched.... {Mt. Sinai in Exodus had perimeters that could not be passed under penalty of death} ..... 20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart: But God desires to commune with us, and partake of his Holiness: (22) But *ye are come unto mount Sion*, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, (23) To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Some years ago brother Bernard shared with the general conference that there were missionaries in many of the declared Islamics state countries. But, it could not be revealed who they were, or the countries they were in for safety sake. And I would imagine for the spread of the gospel sake as well. Lest they be hindered in their work or even persecuted.
It seems any time when the subject comes up about women wearing pants, Deut.22:5 gets brought into the conversation in order to prove women shouldn't wear pants because they pertain to a man and then explain how immodest pants are. This teaching causes some confusion, which is, does a woman never put on at any time a pair of pants even in the privacy of their own home, such as sweatpants? What do you do? Deut says, Don't and Paul says to dress Modestly. What do you do? You begin to now make the Scriptures fit your interpretation is what you do. If Deut. says "Don't" then you DON'T, right? Or maybe Deut. isn't saying what you want it to say, Maybe it's saying, women and men Don't Cross Dress, don't wear clothes that the opposite sex wears to look like them. Pretty obvious doing such is perverted. This verse doesn't mean for women not to wear pants otherwise you better not even wear them at home..... and that goes for you men too, don't wear your wife’s sweatpants, lol.
No, just no. The trauma the UPCI did to me was and still is hurtful to me. A female can wear pants, cut her hair etc.... and still go to heaven. This group/ cult did more damage than good to me and so many other people.
Yup. They teach men's standards. Their emphasis is on outward appearance like make up, uncut hair, jewelry, skirt length. To think these things are a holiness issue is to miss the point. What they do is try to do things that have good principles and then distort them. I've seen women use those holiness standards in a self righteous way to look down on others.
See I was ok till I got into the Apostolic church I’ve been in a Christian church I’ve always seeking God’s presence I became confused because I see doctrine over God in the church and I do believe that God looks at the heart of man so I do believe up to a point the Apostolic but I don’t believe to the fullness of the doctrine and I have prayed to God what does He want from me
@@mikeeagan1307 First we are saved by grace thru faith in JESUS CHRIST.2nd JESUS said if we love him we will keep his commandments.Now we are not saved by keeping the commands but we can't live in habitual sin.This guides us what GOD calls sin and he does not want us to live in sin.If we do sin we need to repent and turn back to JESUS CHRIST.Christianity is a life style to follow JESUS CHRIST.
Explain “ holiness “ from the Bible. Two great commandments, love god love people period. Only thing Jesus ever did was love people. Having a relationship w/ god is all he wants. Use common sense, book of proverbs
Holiness starts by obedience to Acts 2:38: “Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost” Acts 2:38 KJV. The sign is speaking in tongues (Mark 16:17, Acts 2:4, Acts 4:31, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 10:43-48, Acts 19:4-6) 2Corinthians 7:1: Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. Jude 1:20: But ye beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost. 1Peter 1:16: because it is written, be ye holy for I am holy
Holiness is very important but this video is more on cultural acceptance than on God's Holiness. Your glorifying western culture from the past and applying such as Holiness. That's not Holiness that isn't a renewing of mind. I'll never ever return to the UPCI, 40 years was enough and I'm freed from carnal mind based doctrine. Thank you Jesus for my freedom.
Can a girl wear a wet suit they surf? Is a tight wet suit too revealing?? If its not ok with God then will God throw her into hell to burn for all of eternity? Ive talked to alot of girls and they feel like athletics and sport is such a hard thing to get into because of dress.
We need to drastically learn the difference between the concept of what Holiness is and what righteousness is. Anybody that God has filled with the Holy Ghost and has been baptized in Jesus name is Holy because God has made them holy. If you're talking about the outward physical appearance and how they dress and conduct themselves that is righteousness not holiness. That is a product of a walk with God over a period of time and not something that church members or pastors can shove down a person's throat. Too often people use what they believe is their "standard of Holiness" which is nothing more than an outward appearance of righteousness as a measuring tool to beat their brother over the head. And no that's not legalism either (although there's a lot of people out there that would claim it is). Paul said not to place of stumbling block or any type of offense in front of a brother or sister to Make Them Fall. Too often we see this in our churches and to be blunt we've aborted more babies than Planned Parenthood ever thought about killing. I've always been a firm believer that what gets allowed in the church gets propagated into the world and since we've permitted people to kill babies in the church it's now part and parcel across the planet. When we let spiritual corruption into our churches and Leadership we allowed it in our countries. We need to understand that our righteousness is as filthy rags. If we esteem ourself more righteous and somebody else because of the length of our sleeves dresses pants shorts Etc and a laundry list of places that we will not go or people we won't hang out with we have become no better than the Pharisees who stood on the street corners. Is Holiness important? Yes it is ... but that happens WHEN they received the Holy Ghost and not when they decide to wear the clothing list that you approved. Our problem is we have too many people that want to fix things for God. 42 years in this movement and it has not changed.
@@Hunter-bo3ci i am simply saying being set apart. I can't help what someone else wear i have to work out my own salvation, plus Jesus said we shall know them by their fruits.
@аварийный монтер Hunter Exactly. This cult preys on putting fear into others for their own personal gain (bring in more members through fear of going to hell thus more money through tithing and donations so the leaders can profit from their fearful members) wearing pants is not going to make me go to hell.
Thank you so much for such videos.I’m a Pentecostal in Zimbabwe that appreciates the word of the Lord as it is.I’m liking how you are quoting scriptures as they are and not modernizing them.Holiness does not evolve or is not dynamic everything we do we need to revert to the Bible.
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Hallelujah. I m yearning for biblical Holiness.
The problem with equating outward appearance to holiness is it always requires man made standards. A women is to have long hair and men should have short hair. what makes the hair long? Uncut. Than what makes hair short? Women should not wear pants because that’s what men wear. But men can’t wear shorts. Not to mention men having facial hair where does that come from? It’s just a lot of man made standers
The beard issue became a problem in the sixties. Simply put it came from prejudice against the hippie movement. A lot of church organizations started adopting grooming standards that would keep those kinds of people out of the church and we need to be wise enough to put those things aside.
Jesus said that the leaders of his people taught the teachings of men and that his people loved it, so we know where he stands on this issue. Jesus Christ never minced words. UPCI often does.
I watched this organization split over television with the WPF and I'm going to be blunt ... both sides were wrong. I said it then and I'll say it now, if you're going to teach pastoral worship and demand that you never stand up to leadership then that rule applies to ministry as well not just the laity, Flash! I had a pastor one-time preach the all it because of the times about dividing the word and dividing the church. Someone needs to put a bug in the Apostle Paul's ear as well because he was stood Peter to his face in front of everybody. Here we teach it should be done in a board meeting in private if it all. Depends on what your credentials are.
But now they'll vote TV into the church, but will ostracize a man with a beard and God forbid that you let one in the Pulpit with a beard! We need to put this hypocritical nonsense to rest. We also need to be flat-out honest about the prejudices some of our older members had and stop trying to throw a stumbling block in front of our brother who for whom Christ died.
Do I have a beard? No I don't. Have I grown one yes many times after I got out of the military. It's a biblical non-issue for me. Where it is going to become an issue is on Judgement Day for all the Pentecostals who rejected a brother walking in the church getting baptized in Jesus name filled with the Holy Ghost ... but he had a beard so they wouldn't associate with him or rejected him because he wouldn't cut it. God help the hypocritical Pastor who stepped in the pulpit and stomped all over that lamb because of a non-biblical standard that he established in his church. I'll be blunt, because they won't ... their's going to be a brutal day in hell for those types of pastors and aints alike.
I'm currently in one of the fastest-growing churches in my state. They are doing outreach heavily to the drug and alcohol communities and helping people with addictions and it is hair-lipping all the Pentecostal preachers around the area who don't like that this church has baptized over 900 people in the past 4 years in a very small town and the church is full of new converts who haven't put on the UPCI catechism yet. One of those psstors snarkily asked me, "Did they kept all 900?" I told him, "No ... but you didn't either with your 20, so leave the man alone!" Also going to be a cold day in judgment for those judgmental pastors that want to stomp on another preacher's Revival. God needs to deliver us of our jealousy.
Praise God! This is one of my favorite videos. Your daughter is precious and I pray I can show my daughter how to value holiness and live by what the bible says ❤
I love being Apostolic and I don't care what other people say. I love walking in holiness.💕😊🙌
Amen
I appreciate UPCI for creating videos like this. It's great to see that they reach this social platform. Watching from Philippines. 🙌 Glory to God
Why UPC celebrates December 25, pagan belief..?I I just heard from this man he saved ...oh! Did God come already? Judgement is not yet come or finished? He that endureth till the SHALL (present tense)
Excellent discussion. Holiness starts inwardly and includes my entire lifestyle. So important.
Amen Amen brother!!
That's a biggie most church's dont preach mostly on sanctification and justification which is upmost for the christian life
Holiness starts with God, not in you. Having the mind of Christ and true reverence towards God will transform you within.
No it's not.
“For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.” 1 John 5:3
Amen!!! Glory to God...Obedience is the key!!!
Very good discussion. I've seen people absolutely destroyed by a tyrannical pastor that went way overboard with holiness standards enforced without love.
Yeah most upc church's can can go overboard when it comes to the whole thing of holiness i think what's missed today is that once you hear about holiness now there's a time that you need to walk it out Romans 12:1-2 has been one of my favorite scripture where vs 1 is of utmost importance but vs 2 says be no longer or do not copy the patterns of this world so the whole thing of sanctified life is soooo important and i have to agree with them but at times it or they can go overboard i'm watching a church service from Austin TX they're united pentecostal church so they're oneness doctrine Jesus Only baptism holiness is important to them a person if they're saved and holy ghost filled will say that you can't do certain things if your saved and holy ghost filled they're big into being seperated from the world they go by the apostle doctrine that jesus 🙏 for his disciples about being in the world but being seperated from the world meaning don't participate in ungodly activities not to be equally yoked together with unbelievers to them that's important so they take the word of God seriously and that's good it is but it can become a works mentality if were not careful most of your other denominations mostly dont teach much on the holiness they do some church's teach sanctification and justification but to be honest some minister's believe that you can go to movies go to dance clubs watch 📺 or even have a drink here and there but won't say if it's wrong or not that's why we need to know our doctrine
This video is excellent! Being an Apostolic Pentecostal all my life this gives me joy to see it explained so beautifully, I pray everyone will take this to heart and live for God in our separation to Him and from the world. This world needs us to be strong and do! They will come to us. ❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Excellent discussion! Clarifying many questions the general public may have about the Christian lifestyle.
We are all a work in progress to meet our maker.
I love it! I love it! We must address these (unpopular) topics HEAD-ON.
If we don't they will slip. And the boarders of our surrender to God will retreat, until very little will be left. God bless Bro. Bernard & the UPCI fellowship.
Hello, i'm from UPCI in Democratic republic of the congo
Sounds like this video was edited quite a bit, so addressing issues was not communicated well. Dressing modestly can vary even for those in this denomination. Addressing women's fashion choices seriously needs to be re-visited and discussed . Women's clothing , attire, and accessories has changed since the early 1900's when many of these rules were implemented for women. There are plenty of contradictions. Why tell a woman she can't wear jewelry, but yet her dress, shoes, and even her hair can be adorned with beads, rhinestones, barrettes, and ribbons? There are modest pants that don't have to fit tightly like leggings. Why could a woman not wear those? I've also seen UPC women wear tight fitting skirts and dresses just above the knee, yet they look down on pants? Costly array? Please. The dresses worn and the shoes worn in this denomination look expensive. I know many women who buy designer clothing. Is there seriously a cost limit on how much women can spend on their clothes? When will the judgmentalism against women end?
Thank you so much for such videos.I’m a Pentecostal in Zimbabwe that appreciates the word of the Lord as it is.I’m liking how you are quoting scriptures as they are and not modernizing them.Holiness does not evolve or is not dynamic everything we do we need to revert to the Bible.
Thank you Bro. BERNARD for this video. You come across as very kind and biblical. I'm not UPC but I do respect your quest for holiness.
It's quite some years I've been battling, confused, and been asking thousands of questions about this matter. But it's right, instead of trying to prove ourselves, reason out for our principle, or whatever we believe is right to live in, why not try to change our motivation? what or who am I really living for? what can I give more to glorify Jesus? It was been said unless we die, Christ cannot live ----- it includes our passion, it cost even our desire as an individual, and much, even more, our lives. As an apostolic Pentecostal for 12 years now, I received a lot of criticism, but here's my testimony-- IT'S WORTH FIGHTING & LIVING FOR. Living for Christ is the best life I ever lived. At the end of this life--- It's not about me, IT'S ABOUT MY PRECIOUS JESUS. So if somebody here is still having a hard time believing and following --- keep searching & keep praying. Holy Ghost is the best teacher. God bless us all.
Amen sister! 🙏
Great message!
What a precious video with Brother Bernard and his daughter... excellent discussion...
In reference to the Afghanistan comment: Some years ago brother Bernard shared with the general conference that there were missionaries in many of the declared Islamics state countries. But, it could not be revealed who they were, or the countries they were in for safety sake. And I would imagine for the spread of the gospel sake as well. Lest they be hindered in their work or even persecuted.
Great info. Appreciate the Word that both of you shared.
Amen. Holiness is who God is..... The devil tries to act and copy many things that God has made to deceive people, but he fails to copy and act Holiness because that is who our God is; and he cannot be God. Being partakers of Jesus's (our God) Holiness is a greater victory, not only to triumph over the enemy but also to see God even as pilgrims in this world.
What I don't like about this type of denominations is that you have to agree and believe everything they say, otherwise they won't let you participate in their congregations, or be their members but, they love taking your tithes and offerings from your pockets.
Thank you 🙏🏾
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Soooo so good
I saw a guy in a full length skirt at the University here. And you see these things happening.
💙🙏💙 Thank U 4 Representing A Holy Apostolic Lifestyle On RUclips...That Concept Is So Very Lacking, (2 say the least) Bless U All IN JESUS NAME! 💙🙏💙
A person who has been filled with the Holy Ghost won't have so much bad to say about this video. God said to be Holy. So be holy in all manner even conversation.
No church should have standards of holiness. Those are rules. Each person needs to discern what the will of God is in their own lives. One woman believes holiness means skirts to her knees. Another woman believes it means skirts to her ankles. One woman can wear a wedding ring only, another believes that earrings are acceptable. This discussion quickly evolved into outward holiness primarily. 35By this everyone will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another.” Not by your dress. Did they even touch on the fruit of the Spirit which is an outflow of Christs Spirit in a believer? I must have missed it.
Brother David Bernard I really love you but your daughter is amazing, she is definitely holding back.
Probably because she is afraid of her father but could never publicly admit it. THIS IS A CULT and very destructive in many ways.
@@xzAllisonxz have you ever been in this so called cult?
@@benb4282 Yes
I am sorry that you have had a bad experience. I have been in the apostolic church since 1986 and never look back. Don’t know why you would consider especially after being one of us that we are a cult. I have noticed that sometimes but not often those that leave us are against us but not often thank God. It reminds me when king Saul was anointed by God and then he fell away to the point of killing the priest of God. He became an enemy of God and David took his place.
@@benb4282 so only those that are like the UPCI CHURCH are going to make it in? You really think that? Kingdom of God won't have many there then huh?
Great teacher of the Word of God: I have his book 'The Oneness Of God' which I highly recommend: great discussion with these two, God bless in Jesus name
The word of God says, " be Holy , because I am holy " . This doesn't mean Christians looking different outwardly, but through our fruit . I can wear skirts to the floor and be a jerk ! I can wear pants , makeup , and jewelry with holiness standards.
I agree with him , there is a time and place for clothing . I believe these old fashion standards needs to be clarified toward ladies . The reason I am saying this is because ..wear bling on their headbands, apple watches, and wedding rings . But on my ..gosh if she wears a pair of earrings ! These standards set a precedence that Christianity only looks ONE WAY !
In my experience, many upci women promote self-righteousness, gossip, passive-aggressive behaviors, and constant drama, which makes their holiness of the heart appear anything but Christ like. It's a very telling witness.
It keeps skipping parts :(
The context of one of the primary scriptures:
Hebrews 12:
6 For whom the Lord loveth he *chasteneth* , and scourgeth every son *whom he receiveth* .
7 If ye endure *chastening* , God dealeth with you as with sons....
9 ...shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10 ... for our profit, that we might be *partakers of his holiness* .
11 Now no *chastening* for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable *fruit of righteousness* unto them which are exercised thereby.
*God* corrects anyone he receives as sons (and daughters).... He corrects / chastens / sourgeth
so
that
*we might be partakers of his holiness*
In other words - God makes you Holy, through correction, reproof, instruction (2 Tim 3:16-17).
12 Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;
13 And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.
14 Follow peace with all men, and *holiness* , without which no man shall see the Lord:
(the context of holiness).
18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched.... {Mt. Sinai in Exodus had perimeters that could not be passed under penalty of death}
..... 20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:
But God desires to commune with us, and partake of his Holiness:
(22) But *ye are come unto mount Sion*, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, (23) To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Why did the WPF break away from UPCI?
What are your thoughts about Afghanistan and are there missionaries there to help? Is there a preacher there?
Some years ago brother Bernard shared with the general conference that there were missionaries in many of the declared Islamics state countries. But, it could not be revealed who they were, or the countries they were in for safety sake. And I would imagine for the spread of the gospel sake as well. Lest they be hindered in their work or even persecuted.
It seems any time when the subject comes up about women wearing pants, Deut.22:5 gets brought into the conversation in order to prove women shouldn't wear pants because they pertain to a man and then explain how immodest pants are. This teaching causes some confusion, which is, does a woman never put on at any time a pair of pants even in the privacy of their own home, such as sweatpants? What do you do? Deut says, Don't and Paul says to dress Modestly. What do you do? You begin to now make the Scriptures fit your interpretation is what you do. If Deut. says "Don't" then you DON'T, right? Or maybe Deut. isn't saying what you want it to say, Maybe it's saying, women and men Don't Cross Dress, don't wear clothes that the opposite sex wears to look like them. Pretty obvious doing such is perverted. This verse doesn't mean for women not to wear pants otherwise you better not even wear them at home..... and that goes for you men too, don't wear your wife’s sweatpants, lol.
Why does video cut out when separation terms are used? In heaven men will wear dresses aka robes. Similar to middle eastern customs
Amen.
No, just no. The trauma the UPCI did to me was and still is hurtful to me. A female can wear pants, cut her hair etc.... and still go to heaven. This group/ cult did more damage than good to me and so many other people.
Yup. They teach men's standards. Their emphasis is on outward appearance like make up, uncut hair, jewelry, skirt length. To think these things are a holiness issue is to miss the point. What they do is try to do things that have good principles and then distort them. I've seen women use those holiness standards in a self righteous way to look down on others.
@@andys3035 Yup
See I was ok till I got into the Apostolic church I’ve been in a Christian church I’ve always seeking God’s presence I became confused because I see doctrine over God in the church and I do believe that God looks at the heart of man so I do believe up to a point the Apostolic but I don’t believe to the fullness of the doctrine and I have prayed to God what does He want from me
Without holiness no one will see GOD.John3:3 and Acts 2:38 a must to be saved.
Holiness? Okay, what is Holiness?.... Church Standards, is that what you are saying?
@@mikeeagan1307 First we are saved by grace thru faith in JESUS CHRIST.2nd JESUS said if we love him we will keep his commandments.Now we are not saved by keeping the commands but we can't live in habitual sin.This guides us what GOD calls sin and he does not want us to live in sin.If we do sin we need to repent and turn back to JESUS CHRIST.Christianity is a life style to follow JESUS CHRIST.
@@ernestdaigle9319 Okay then, its not Church standards
That's right church standards are religion defiles the body of Christ or the church that is built on JESUS CHRIST.
Beautiful video!
Explain “ holiness “ from the Bible. Two great commandments, love god love people period. Only thing Jesus ever did was love people. Having a relationship w/ god is all he wants. Use common sense, book of proverbs
Holiness starts by obedience to Acts 2:38:
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost”
Acts 2:38 KJV.
The sign is speaking in tongues (Mark 16:17, Acts 2:4, Acts 4:31, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 10:43-48, Acts 19:4-6)
2Corinthians 7:1: Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
Jude 1:20: But ye beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost.
1Peter 1:16: because it is written, be ye holy for I am holy
Exactly. Jesus never once mentions women shouldn’t wear pants, etc.
Holiness is very important but this video is more on cultural acceptance than on God's Holiness. Your glorifying western culture from the past and applying such as Holiness. That's not Holiness that isn't a renewing of mind. I'll never ever return to the UPCI, 40 years was enough and I'm freed from carnal mind based doctrine. Thank you Jesus for my freedom.
Can a girl wear a wet suit they surf? Is a tight wet suit too revealing?? If its not ok with God then will God throw her into hell to burn for all of eternity? Ive talked to alot of girls and they feel like athletics and sport is such a hard thing to get into because of dress.
I see major Christian need to hold a Bible rather than laptop and mobile
Mobile has become idols nowadays
Beware we need to have holy Bible
its Holiness or Hell..... And im chosing holiness
We need to drastically learn the difference between the concept of what Holiness is and what righteousness is. Anybody that God has filled with the Holy Ghost and has been baptized in Jesus name is Holy because God has made them holy. If you're talking about the outward physical appearance and how they dress and conduct themselves that is righteousness not holiness. That is a product of a walk with God over a period of time and not something that church members or pastors can shove down a person's throat.
Too often people use what they believe is their "standard of Holiness" which is nothing more than an outward appearance of righteousness as a measuring tool to beat their brother over the head. And no that's not legalism either (although there's a lot of people out there that would claim it is). Paul said not to place of stumbling block or any type of offense in front of a brother or sister to Make Them Fall. Too often we see this in our churches and to be blunt we've aborted more babies than Planned Parenthood ever thought about killing. I've always been a firm believer that what gets allowed in the church gets propagated into the world and since we've permitted people to kill babies in the church it's now part and parcel across the planet. When we let spiritual corruption into our churches and Leadership we allowed it in our countries.
We need to understand that our righteousness is as filthy rags. If we esteem ourself more righteous and somebody else because of the length of our sleeves dresses pants shorts Etc and a laundry list of places that we will not go or people we won't hang out with we have become no better than the Pharisees who stood on the street corners. Is Holiness important? Yes it is ... but that happens WHEN they received the Holy Ghost and not when they decide to wear the clothing list that you approved.
Our problem is we have too many people that want to fix things for God. 42 years in this movement and it has not changed.
@@Hunter-bo3ci i am simply saying being set apart. I can't help what someone else wear i have to work out my own salvation, plus Jesus said we shall know them by their fruits.
@аварийный монтер Hunter Exactly. This cult preys on putting fear into others for their own personal gain (bring in more members through fear of going to hell thus more money through tithing and donations so the leaders can profit from their fearful members) wearing pants is not going to make me go to hell.
Thank you so much for such videos.I’m a Pentecostal in Zimbabwe that appreciates the word of the Lord as it is.I’m liking how you are quoting scriptures as they are and not modernizing them.Holiness does not evolve or is not dynamic everything we do we need to revert to the Bible.
Amen