Thank you, your review was awesome and it was just what I need it. I also have a lenovo x1 laptop and I wanted to be able to charge it on my car, but I hadn't found any useful nor reliable information about this charger, but your video was great. You now have a new subscriber.
If the case is aluminium, does that mean that the only thing preventing a direct short on the input pins is the anodization...? Also, it would be interesting to see a video explaining architecturally inherent efficiency differences between buck and boost converters.
For a proper soak test of these chargers, an obvious choice would be to use that thermal camera to look at not just the PSU’s, but also the cables under the high load! 😎
Thank you for such an in-depth review! Not being able to reach the total advertised 100W is a bummer. I expected it to be reach at least 60W for the USB C PD :(
This special 100w car charger by Xiaomi (the Apple of China) is a true 100w power delivery. It is specially made for Xiaomi phones capable of charging 120w feature and it truly delivers. Got it and tested it for my Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G 120w phone and when connected into my cigarette lighter in my BMW, the phone suddenly displays "100w MAX" charging speeds. The cable's inside the type C connections is orange color and it has a special pin layout that when connected to a supported Xiaomi phone it will trigger the signal to the charger to start charging at full 100W speed. Also Baseus and Essager both a under division of Xiaomi also make very high quality chargers and cables top notch electronics certified with Xiaomi's premium quality and QC in every product and at very cheap prices!
I'd love to see a review of the Thermal Imaging Camera. I'm currently looking to buy one and juggling which is best in terms of performance, price, software updates, warranty etc.
Try running this device at something a typical nominal 24V automotive electrical system (e.g. on commercial style trucks). If this device can't safely run at a constant 30V input voltage without major issues, it's technically NOT suitable for nominal 24V automotive applications. Cars charge at between 14V to 15V regularly nowadays when there's not enough load to overwhelm the alternator and enough engine RPM (typical max output rpm is around 3000rpm IIRC). For a 24V system, it's reasonable to expect voltages to max out at just under 30V.
Thank you for your review, some of the chargers that support 20V, deliver the peak watt only when they connect to 24V input, but they don't mention that in specs. the other problem it didn't see any official inpormation that this charger support PD 3.0 so it may not be suitable for iPhone iPads or Macs.
I have this charger and it is great. This and my ugreen (which was more expensive) are the only car chargers I've personally come across that will step-up voltage to do 20V output with 12V input, and so are able to charge my Asus Zenbook OLED, though only at ~45W with PD as you observed. My Poco F5 Pro, though phone itself is 67w max, is able to get full speed charging through it. However Xiaomi/Poco use a proprietary protocol to do this which they make quite unclear. Though that is why the manual states that only their devices can utilize the full capability of the charger. It is not USB-PD nor PPS, so the usual trigger devices will not be able to activate this full power mode. When it is running in USB-PD mode, which is indicated by the charger glowing blue (glows orange in Xiaomi full power mode), it is presumably "supposed" to be capped at 45W (the typical 20V - 2.25A), but has a bit of extra headroom before the protection trips. They also explicitly say to use the included cable because their protocol requires an extra pin and wire to work. A regular USB 2.0 C-C cable (4 wire) can't trigger the full power mode, however I have a Aukey USB 3.0 C-C that will, presumably as it's a 9 wire so it does connect the extra pin (and then some).
Awesome testing! Here are other ones: - Baseus Car Charger USB+USB-C Together Cigarette 120W - Baseus Share Together PPS with extension cord 120 W Do you have some tests for them?...
what do i check to know if the car charger has a boost circuit? (12v to 20V PD) there are a lot of car chargers being sold that it says its capable of 20V but most sellers won't mention that it needs a 24v supply. (so its a step down not a boost)
Great video.. Maybe you should describe performance with internal components. And if that have good quality like generics vs apple chargers .. This is a very little charger for 100w if they really can get it
Does yours make high pitch noise when charging a high power device? I got mine today and it makes noise when in blue light mode, but not in green light mode.
My dell 7400 says it gets only 45w charge, there was no problem when I used my previous HAMA charger, unfortunately, it is broken now. The laptop is charging but I get the message that I plugged low-speed charger:(
que pena que no lo probaste su funcionamiento con teléfonos que es para lo que principalmente lo utilizarán la mayoría de los compradores It's a pity you didn't test it, it works with phones, which is what most buyers will mainly use it for.
Thanks for the review and test. Still impressive to draw 55 Watt out of that. On the other hand USB standards. Something about the word 'standard' is starting to trigger me. How many standards do we have now? The thermal camera, there is no need to ask us if you need to review it. Yes, of course , but I will keep 1 eye closed keeping my bank account in mind.
The USB 'standards' are just a joke, It really didn't help when the USB - IF renamed a lot of protocols for the USB 3.2 rollout, so now we have a situation where you have an old device marked as one protocol and a new device marked as a different protocol, when in fact they are the same and completely compatible... So frustrating 😠
You don't need to worry about burning cables; without eMarker chip the output is limited to 60W. You don't need PPS to get to 100W, just a proper cable.
Tell me please, I've bought a 65w car charger from baseus, it's almost the same as your 100w Xiaomi charger, but I am little confused about voltage. It also uses PD 3.0 protocol, and it also can work with 12 and 24v car instalations. Is there any chance that any of those small chargers will be able to boost 12v input to 20v output? To be precise, i am wondering will it be able to charge my a huawei USB C charged laptop. Wall charger has a 65w output (at 20V). I am using a small car, so I don't have 24v electrical instalation.
These small chargers are not meant for continuous usage at 60W so they're not the solution you are looking for. For a quick charge it might do the job, but for prolonged usage it will get hot.
Some USB C car chargers will boost 12v to 20v, and some will not. The fine print might tell you. I have a Satechi 60W car charger, which I have used with my MacBook Pro for many, many hours without it failing.
baseus has a 100-160w type C car charger. But there is no charger that charges 20v/5A with 12V input voltage. Which requires a voltage greater than 20V. Xiaomi too, because this is the charger with the largest charging current of xiaomi already.
Sorry, the xiaomi 100w car charger can charge 20v/5v with the included 100w cable at 12v input voltage. I read the Baseus charger catalog it needs an input voltage of 20V or more (24v truck) it can have 20v/5v output. ruclips.net/video/mb0uqd6z8ck/видео.html
I have been looking for a good quality (safe) USB-C car charger for my ThinkPad X270 (very similar to your X1) Although this may save the day in an emergency, for the price it is selling I may look for something that can do better. One note of relevance, I once tried to charge my X270 with an Apple 20W USB-C charger and got an error message saying that it was not powerful enough. That was to be expected but what was not expected is that message got stuck now, every time I turn the X270 on, it is displayed even before the BIOS splash screen, telling me to press ESC to continue to boot. I can't get rid of it no matter what I tried... So, beware when testing USB-C chargers with your X1.
What can this be used to did its support powerdelivery v3 or 9 volt 3 amp? How much amp with ulefone power 5? Will model BYM-128 12 volt 10 amp be enoth for this?
i have 2-Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC phones, my house chargers are the fast charging 33W type. Currently I have to use a cigarette lighter charger and get slow charging at 18w and when using the power outlet in my vehicle with the stock charger I get the 33 watts. So I'm looking for a solution where I can charge both of my phones at 33w. I suppose it can either we lighter or outlet, what do you recommend?
Cool! Now I can charge my phone in 10min but I would have to buy a new one every 3 months, because my battery probably would have bit the dust by then. Smart marketing from Xiaomi.
Yeah, 100W into a phone battery sounds like it's going to affect battery life significantly Personally, I would use a 10 to 20W charger whenever I could, having the ability to fast charge @ 100W is nice if you forget to charge and you need to leave in a hurry but I would use it sparingly
I would probably think the same but at the same time they are offering warranty with their phones so you would expect the battery to last at least 1 year with daily charging at those rates. Just 1 year you must say? and I would agree, my batteries last much longer because I take good care of them but to be honest if you look around, the majority of people don't take care of their batteries and they have already lost at least 25% capacity by the time they reach 1 year.
@@voltlog For the '1year then throw it away crowd' I suppose this is fine, personally I like phones to last 2 to 3 years, You're quite right though, many people care far more about convenience than longevity of a device... Sad really
Hi there! Just letting you know that the link for the USB PD Decoy doesn’t work. (On my end anyway.) 👍 --- Oh.. I also noticed that you didn’t add a link to the Baseus 65W GaN Charger.
Thanks! I fixed the link for the PD Decoy, mixed search results, you will have to go through them to select one. The links for the Baseus charger were already in the description.
Thank you, your review was awesome and it was just what I need it. I also have a lenovo x1 laptop and I wanted to be able to charge it on my car, but I hadn't found any useful nor reliable information about this charger, but your video was great. You now have a new subscriber.
Same!!!
Glad this review exists! Thank you.
Thank you for the link to the charger tear down website.. Will be spending some time looking at that later... Very interesting.. thanks
yes! please review the uni-t hand held thermal camera. thanks!
Working on that review video, thanks!
If the case is aluminium, does that mean that the only thing preventing a direct short on the input pins is the anodization...? Also, it would be interesting to see a video explaining architecturally inherent efficiency differences between buck and boost converters.
Please review the thermal camera if you can.
Working on the review video! Thanks!
For a proper soak test of these chargers, an obvious choice would be to use that thermal camera to look at not just the PSU’s, but also the cables under the high load! 😎
Sure, the cable would also get warm at those high loads.
Thank you for such an in-depth review! Not being able to reach the total advertised 100W is a bummer. I expected it to be reach at least 60W for the USB C PD :(
This special 100w car charger by Xiaomi (the Apple of China) is a true 100w power delivery. It is specially made for Xiaomi phones capable of charging 120w feature and it truly delivers. Got it and tested it for my Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G 120w phone and when connected into my cigarette lighter in my BMW, the phone suddenly displays "100w MAX" charging speeds. The cable's inside the type C connections is orange color and it has a special pin layout that when connected to a supported Xiaomi phone it will trigger the signal to the charger to start charging at full 100W speed.
Also Baseus and Essager both a under division of Xiaomi also make very high quality chargers and cables top notch electronics certified with Xiaomi's premium quality and QC in every product and at very cheap prices!
Can we expect a future detail video on Type-C PD like through datasheet and handshake process?
PD is not really on my list but you can expect a follow-up on this charger once I get a new PD decoy module to try and get it to output full 100W.
@@voltlog You can try to update the firmware of your ruideng tc66c usb power meter, maybe they fixed negotiation part?
@@LevonAvagyan That is something I did not try but will look into it.
Gracias. Agradecido por tan valioso vídeo.
I'd love to see a review of the Thermal Imaging Camera. I'm currently looking to buy one and juggling which is best in terms of performance, price, software updates, warranty etc.
Working on the review video 👍
the pin went inside in the ending , how to fix?
Try running this device at something a typical nominal 24V automotive electrical system (e.g. on commercial style trucks). If this device can't safely run at a constant 30V input voltage without major issues, it's technically NOT suitable for nominal 24V automotive applications. Cars charge at between 14V to 15V regularly nowadays when there's not enough load to overwhelm the alternator and enough engine RPM (typical max output rpm is around 3000rpm IIRC). For a 24V system, it's reasonable to expect voltages to max out at just under 30V.
From the teardown: caps are 35V, FETs are 30-40V, ICs 28/32/36V but unsure what connects where. Based on that I don't think I would take the risk.
There is also transients to consider so I would probably not trust this on a 24V system.
Thank you for your review, some of the chargers that support 20V, deliver the peak watt only when they connect to 24V input, but they don't mention that in specs.
the other problem it didn't see any official inpormation that this charger support PD 3.0 so it may not be suitable for iPhone iPads or Macs.
Is ok for samsung?
I have this charger and it is great. This and my ugreen (which was more expensive) are the only car chargers I've personally come across that will step-up voltage to do 20V output with 12V input, and so are able to charge my Asus Zenbook OLED, though only at ~45W with PD as you observed.
My Poco F5 Pro, though phone itself is 67w max, is able to get full speed charging through it. However Xiaomi/Poco use a proprietary protocol to do this which they make quite unclear. Though that is why the manual states that only their devices can utilize the full capability of the charger.
It is not USB-PD nor PPS, so the usual trigger devices will not be able to activate this full power mode. When it is running in USB-PD mode, which is indicated by the charger glowing blue (glows orange in Xiaomi full power mode), it is presumably "supposed" to be capped at 45W (the typical 20V - 2.25A), but has a bit of extra headroom before the protection trips.
They also explicitly say to use the included cable because their protocol requires an extra pin and wire to work. A regular USB 2.0 C-C cable (4 wire) can't trigger the full power mode, however I have a Aukey USB 3.0 C-C that will, presumably as it's a 9 wire so it does connect the extra pin (and then some).
I need link to buy this charger please. Thanks
I cant even find this charger on aliexpress. Was it recalled?
What new tester did you order?
Does it charge my 65w phone or not?
Sooo... if it's a car charge then it needs a booster circuit to double voltage which increases the amps drawn way past just 5 amps..
Awesome testing!
Here are other ones:
- Baseus Car Charger USB+USB-C Together Cigarette 120W
- Baseus Share Together PPS with extension cord 120 W
Do you have some tests for them?...
Tihs Charger Good or Bad. Tell Plz.
This Charger Any Leptop Work.
Not work with my dell XPS 13 9350
Could i power this device from 8s lifepo4 ?
what do i check to know if the car charger has a boost circuit? (12v to 20V PD) there are a lot of car chargers being sold that it says its capable of 20V but most sellers won't mention that it needs a 24v supply. (so its a step down not a boost)
Nice 👍🏻
Can both these Car & Wall plug chargers, charge 2 phones at 25w each ?
Like 2 Samsung phones
Thank you
Great video.. Maybe you should describe performance with internal components. And if that have good quality like generics vs apple chargers .. This is a very little charger for 100w if they really can get it
Can it chrge relme supper vook
Does yours make high pitch noise when charging a high power device? I got mine today and it makes noise when in blue light mode, but not in green light mode.
My dell 7400 says it gets only 45w charge, there was no problem when I used my previous HAMA charger, unfortunately, it is broken now. The laptop is charging but I get the message that I plugged low-speed charger:(
hi! does this support dash/warp charging for oneplus phones? thanks
que pena que no lo probaste su funcionamiento con teléfonos que es para lo que principalmente lo utilizarán la mayoría de los compradores
It's a pity you didn't test it, it works with phones, which is what most buyers will mainly use it for.
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Thanks for the review and test. Still impressive to draw 55 Watt out of that. On the other hand USB standards. Something about the word 'standard' is starting to trigger me. How many standards do we have now?
The thermal camera, there is no need to ask us if you need to review it. Yes, of course , but I will keep 1 eye closed keeping my bank account in mind.
The USB 'standards' are just a joke,
It really didn't help when the USB - IF renamed a lot of protocols for the USB 3.2 rollout, so now we have a situation where you have an old device marked as one protocol and a new device marked as a different protocol, when in fact they are the same and completely compatible... So frustrating 😠
The thermal camera is not cheap but as you will see in the review video, if you need those thermal pixels, there is nothing similar on the market.
You don't need to worry about burning cables; without eMarker chip the output is limited to 60W. You don't need PPS to get to 100W, just a proper cable.
That is the standard and the case on the Baseus charger, couldn't confirm it with the Xiaomi charger.
Tell me please, I've bought a 65w car charger from baseus, it's almost the same as your 100w Xiaomi charger, but I am little confused about voltage. It also uses PD 3.0 protocol, and it also can work with 12 and 24v car instalations. Is there any chance that any of those small chargers will be able to boost 12v input to 20v output? To be precise, i am wondering will it be able to charge my a huawei USB C charged laptop. Wall charger has a 65w output (at 20V). I am using a small car, so I don't have 24v electrical instalation.
These small chargers are not meant for continuous usage at 60W so they're not the solution you are looking for. For a quick charge it might do the job, but for prolonged usage it will get hot.
Some USB C car chargers will boost 12v to 20v, and some will not. The fine print might tell you.
I have a Satechi 60W car charger, which I have used with my MacBook Pro for many, many hours without it failing.
baseus has a 100-160w type C car charger. But there is no charger that charges 20v/5A with 12V input voltage. Which requires a voltage greater than 20V. Xiaomi too, because this is the charger with the largest charging current of xiaomi already.
Sorry, the xiaomi 100w car charger can charge 20v/5v with the included 100w cable at 12v input voltage. I read the Baseus charger catalog it needs an input voltage of 20V or more (24v truck) it can have 20v/5v output.
ruclips.net/video/mb0uqd6z8ck/видео.html
I have been looking for a good quality (safe) USB-C car charger for my ThinkPad X270 (very similar to your X1) Although this may save the day in an emergency, for the price it is selling I may look for something that can do better. One note of relevance, I once tried to charge my X270 with an Apple 20W USB-C charger and got an error message saying that it was not powerful enough. That was to be expected but what was not expected is that message got stuck now, every time I turn the X270 on, it is displayed even before the BIOS splash screen, telling me to press ESC to continue to boot. I can't get rid of it no matter what I tried... So, beware when testing USB-C chargers with your X1.
Have you tried clearing the BIOS settings? Or maybe doing a BIOS upgrade? That might help clear the error.
@@voltlog I tried clearing the settings, did not work. I have the latest BIOS but I will try to re-flash the same.
What can this be used to did its support powerdelivery v3 or 9 volt 3 amp? How much amp with ulefone power 5? Will model BYM-128 12 volt 10 amp be enoth for this?
i have 2-Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC phones, my house chargers are the fast charging 33W type. Currently I have to use a cigarette lighter charger and get slow charging at 18w and when using the power outlet in my vehicle with the stock charger I get the 33 watts. So I'm looking for a solution where I can charge both of my phones at 33w. I suppose it can either we lighter or outlet, what do you recommend?
Cool! Now I can charge my phone in 10min but I would have to buy a new one every 3 months, because my battery probably would have bit the dust by then. Smart marketing from Xiaomi.
You mean planned obsolescence, right?
@@4G12 Yep!
Yeah, 100W into a phone battery sounds like it's going to affect battery life significantly
Personally, I would use a 10 to 20W charger whenever I could, having the ability to fast charge @ 100W is nice if you forget to charge and you need to leave in a hurry but I would use it sparingly
I would probably think the same but at the same time they are offering warranty with their phones so you would expect the battery to last at least 1 year with daily charging at those rates. Just 1 year you must say? and I would agree, my batteries last much longer because I take good care of them but to be honest if you look around, the majority of people don't take care of their batteries and they have already lost at least 25% capacity by the time they reach 1 year.
@@voltlog For the '1year then throw it away crowd' I suppose this is fine, personally I like phones to last 2 to 3 years,
You're quite right though, many people care far more about convenience than longevity of a device... Sad really
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Not work with my lab top dell XPS 13 9350
Hi there!
Just letting you know that the link for the USB PD Decoy doesn’t work. (On my end anyway.) 👍
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Oh..
I also noticed that you didn’t add a link to the Baseus 65W GaN Charger.
Thanks! I fixed the link for the PD Decoy, mixed search results, you will have to go through them to select one. The links for the Baseus charger were already in the description.
I think you need to use a car battery with a charger attached to give real-world usage and a true test
How to turn the USB A port into a 30 watt USB C PD port? Without a special Chinese phone, it is nothing but capped at 2.4 or 3.0 amps.
That is for smart phones only and you can anything else
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Why are you so willing to give them the benefit of the doubt? Chinese products routinely fail to meet specs, you know this, but you are too timid.
Xiaomi is a higher tier company so I don't think they're lying about the specs but I will investigate this further when I get a new PD decoy module.
@@voltlog, any observations with the new tester? Have you noticed any improvements?