There's a definite shift among older bikers back to more simple, fun bikes and these two probably deliver that. They look like proper bikes and they sound like proper bikes, and if they can do 100 mph then they go like proper bikes. 👍🇦🇺
I've not ridden either but I have looked at both and the quality question, in my opinion, is very nip and tuck. It very much depends on what jumps out to you individually I think. I personally do like the polished ally cases on the Enfield and don't like the use of stickers on the BSA but then I really don't like the stamped out flat steel rear brake and gear levers on the Enfield and think the ones on the BSA look better quality. I also prefer the Alloy rims on the BSA (which I seem to remember were also standard on the first interceptors). That USB socket on the BSA is really bad and looks like something ordered aftermarket from Ali Express but then I think I prefer the indicators on the BSA. I believe the suspension is better quality on the BSA and I think it's quite surprising after a few years in the market that RE still has the misting clocks issue. I think how you perceive the quality of these bikes is going to come down to where they have chosen to save money and where they have chosen to spend a bit more and how important you as an individual think those areas are. Either way round I think we should all applaud the fact that RE and BSA are delivering really nice bikes that are not falling apart at the first sign of British weather and they are doing that at affordable prices.
Having just purchased a INT 650 Mark II, I can say that it is everything I hoped it would be!! The gearbox, the seat, the fact that there is no vibration at any speed or RPM, I love it so far. I wont say anything negative about the BSA, having not ridden one. Solely based on looks, joy of riding and beautiful sound. I’m going with the Enfield. With that said, the BSA is beautiful. Great review mate. PS, I’m only 150 miles in on the Enfield, but already looking forward to putting many more.
Just don't get the fake British classic thing ?. I'm 58 years of age and grew up riding good reliable japanese bikes which have served me well from 2 stroke twins of the late 70's and 80's up to modern smooth 4 strokes of today. I have no fond memeries of when British Bikes were the best in the world but if this type of thing is all you need enjoy-- but they are not cheap for what you get and resale value is going to be shocking. Now if Yamaha could make a RD 350 YPVS or a modern 4 stroke version i would be first in the queue. To me a Honda CB650R is a modern classic and not much more than these in cost but a lot better value.. Ride safe and enjoy.
My RE 650 GT did not come with a centre stand (but all the mounting points are there for the centre stand that comes with the Interceptor so one can be fitted if you wish, but it will cost extra).
Great review and it's down to personal preference at the end of the day. I wish BSA every success but for me based on quality and looks it's the Royal Enfield for me.
The Enfield has a track record. I would let the BSA be out there for a year or so before hopping on board. It isn’t until the machines have been for sale and ridden by customers for at least a year to see what problems arise and how the factory deals with complaints/warranty issues.
The RE has good aftermarket backing and you can customise it till your heart is content. It’s early days for BSA and I’ll be watching to see how it turns out. The Interceptor is a real head turner as well. Even the Bonnieville owners can’t help but look😂. Mind you I live in the Highlands and I haven’t met anyone else with an RE yet. The BSA does look the part though
Really great review! Thanks Nathan (and Jack and Ian and Dave!) The most honest and fair review that has been on the BSA, all the others seem to be "bestest-bike-ever-please-keep-me-on-your-pr-list-bas-thanks". Really want to go and ride both Inty and BSA back to back now. I'm glad it's not just me that feels the BSA could be better built. I think the sum up is "has potential, could be better build, but rides well".
Really enjoyed your down to earth, say it as you see it review without pandering to the dealers, manufacturers thus now subscribed 😊. I was considering the BSA to join the Triumph and RE in the garage but really not sure those dull agricultural engine casings would give me the pride of ownership the other two marques provide, of all the reviews watched you were the only one to mention this huge elephant in the room as I perceive it, hopefully will not be so bad when I see it in the flesh. Once again good job. Thanks
That was a great review, best I’ve seen so far. Two great bikes to choose from and not a bad situation to be in if you’re looking for a bike in this category. For me I’d go for the RE until the BSA has a few more months under its belt and has a proven dealer support network.
Good honest reviews and fair comparisons. Thank you. The big negative for ne for the BSA is no centre stand and with no lugs to attach one to it doesn't look like an after market option will be available.
There's a definite shift among older bikers back to more simple, fun bikes and these two probably deliver that. They look like proper bikes and they sound like proper bikes, and if they can do 100 mph then they go like proper bikes. 👍🇦🇺
I've not ridden either but I have looked at both and the quality question, in my opinion, is very nip and tuck. It very much depends on what jumps out to you individually I think. I personally do like the polished ally cases on the Enfield and don't like the use of stickers on the BSA but then I really don't like the stamped out flat steel rear brake and gear levers on the Enfield and think the ones on the BSA look better quality. I also prefer the Alloy rims on the BSA (which I seem to remember were also standard on the first interceptors). That USB socket on the BSA is really bad and looks like something ordered aftermarket from Ali Express but then I think I prefer the indicators on the BSA. I believe the suspension is better quality on the BSA and I think it's quite surprising after a few years in the market that RE still has the misting clocks issue. I think how you perceive the quality of these bikes is going to come down to where they have chosen to save money and where they have chosen to spend a bit more and how important you as an individual think those areas are. Either way round I think we should all applaud the fact that RE and BSA are delivering really nice bikes that are not falling apart at the first sign of British weather and they are doing that at affordable prices.
Having just purchased a INT 650 Mark II, I can say that it is everything I hoped it would be!! The gearbox, the seat, the fact that there is no vibration at any speed or RPM, I love it so far. I wont say anything negative about the BSA, having not ridden one. Solely based on looks, joy of riding and beautiful sound. I’m going with the Enfield. With that said, the BSA is beautiful. Great review mate. PS, I’m only 150 miles in on the Enfield, but already looking forward to putting many more.
I'm loving my Interceptor as I have for the last 3 years.
As an Interceptor owner, I admire the Goldstar as well. I hope they succeed.
Just don't get the fake British classic thing ?. I'm 58 years of age and grew up riding good reliable japanese bikes which have served me well from 2 stroke twins of the late 70's and 80's up to modern smooth 4 strokes of today. I have no fond memeries of when British Bikes were the best in the world but if this type of thing is all you need enjoy-- but they are not cheap for what you get and resale value is going to be shocking. Now if Yamaha could make a RD 350 YPVS or a modern 4 stroke version i would be first in the queue. To me a Honda CB650R is a modern classic and not much more than these in cost but a lot better value.. Ride safe and enjoy.
Just can't live with that radiator. Shame.
My RE 650 GT did not come with a centre stand (but all the mounting points are there for the centre stand that comes with the Interceptor so one can be fitted if you wish, but it will cost extra).
Great review and it's down to personal preference at the end of the day. I wish BSA every success but for me based on quality and looks it's the Royal Enfield for me.
The Enfield has a track record. I would let the BSA be out there for a year or so before hopping on board. It isn’t until the machines have been for sale and ridden by customers for at least a year to see what problems arise and how the factory deals with complaints/warranty issues.
What a renaissance of Indian-made British bikes we’re going through! Hoping TVS does a similarly cracking job with the new Nortons. 🇮🇳 🇬🇧
I like your honesty, Nathan. Even if you can’t really make your mind up! Thanks mate, and have a good Xmas.
Another excellent insightful review and infused by your humour and enthusiasm. Keep up the good work 👍
The RE has good aftermarket backing and you can customise it till your heart is content. It’s early days for BSA and I’ll be watching to see how it turns out. The Interceptor is a real head turner as well. Even the Bonnieville owners can’t help but look😂. Mind you I live in the Highlands and I haven’t met anyone else with an RE yet. The BSA does look the part though
Great review, Nathan. Both bikes are so evenly matched its almost impossible to pick a winner. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Really great review! Thanks Nathan (and Jack and Ian and Dave!) The most honest and fair review that has been on the BSA, all the others seem to be "bestest-bike-ever-please-keep-me-on-your-pr-list-bas-thanks". Really want to go and ride both Inty and BSA back to back now. I'm glad it's not just me that feels the BSA could be better built. I think the sum up is "has potential, could be better build, but rides well".
Excellent review Nathan. No BS, nice one mate
Really enjoyed your down to earth, say it as you see it review without pandering to the dealers, manufacturers thus now subscribed 😊. I was considering the BSA to join the Triumph and RE in the garage but really not sure those dull agricultural engine casings would give me the pride of ownership the other two marques provide, of all the reviews watched you were the only one to mention this huge elephant in the room as I perceive it, hopefully will not be so bad when I see it in the flesh. Once again good job. Thanks
That was a great review, best I’ve seen so far. Two great bikes to choose from and not a bad situation to be in if you’re looking for a bike in this category. For me I’d go for the RE until the BSA has a few more months under its belt and has a proven dealer support network.
Good honest reviews and fair comparisons. Thank you. The big negative for ne for the BSA is no centre stand and with no lugs to attach one to it doesn't look like an after market option will be available.