As always very good video! Very true about the usefulness of Aikido and as you have said before, the opinions that you have.. complete destruction not always necessary! And moving close to the attacker, most unexpected. Best Aikido channel on the tube. Big love and hope you well Azu. Thank you for the shout 🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️👊
I think Aikido took a weird turn when people started to romantisize the concept of a "non-violent" martial art, similar to Judo. They just liked the unrealistic idea of defeating an opponent with little to no effort and the aim to creating a frustrating situation for the attacker to not be able to actually even touch and therefor hurt you. So there were a lot "masters" who abstracted the original execution of Aikido to something highly impractical and almost useless, but it is important to mentian, that not all Aikido masters took that route, there is till enough "schools" that teach it in the original, aggressive and highly functional way. And no matter how much of a joke Steven Segal is as a person, his Aikido is totally legit and I am glad he puts that to proof with his latest public demonstrations. And now with the emergence of MMA and people exploring and mixing different concepts, the original Aikido became more relevant again, because it is indeed functional if you are lucky enough to find an Aikido school that doesn't teach the BS-Aikido.
@@deathbare5306 Yes, he is what you described him as, I wouldn't argue with that. But his Aikido is absolutely legit. Everything else is highly questionable.
A very good analysis. Well put. It is good to see. Leverage = TORIFUNE", the internal energy generator, where the vertical "Body Weight" meets leverage, + the tanden, here we have "internal power" Aikido. This moves the strength away from the shoulders completely, minus pinning and throws, giving us energy/ki to work with. Sensei's stopped learning/teaching Aikido half way in. All of the info is there if we go back and have a look. The Aikido we learn exists to learn/study Aikido. Now we have to put it back together from where it came. The Human Anatomy. The body moves at the same speed as the "cut" it is not a cut sepereated from the body. Check, when posture is broked all the time = no body weight is used. It goes on. Critical thiking must be part of the thought/taeaching processe. Grunt Aikido doesn't work. Aikido works because the Human Anatomy exist.
Hey!! It's Heckel and Jeckel😅!! Seriously, it's good to see you fools again. You guys are very entertaining (and I mean that), I was worried about you guys, but your back up again!! It's fun to watch you guys, and it's also fun to watch people try to functionalize Aikido, but keep making this great content, I love you guys, and the comments are kind of fun too.
Nice one guys 👍 Like any martial art, as you say in the video it's relevant depending on how you train it. Thanks for giving a shout out to Luton Aikido club 🙏 it's always nice to see you there 🥋👊
Get OFF that line of attack ! You never want to be on the receiving end of someone's full force...... that's what Aikido has taught me. And you're right, you can't dodge forever. Better to move in to his blindspot. Take him off balance
If your a true practitioner of Aikido you know that it's still relevant. I didn't even know what Aikido was until Steven Segals 1st movies in the mid 80s. He's the reason i studied Aikido for 10 years. Azu its like you said in one of your earlier videos yrs ago. Aikido gives you choice. Keep up the good work Aikido Flow family.
In my Dojo, I have trained under different masters, they all have added yo the techniques. They have included stuff from Karate, boxing, judo, and what not. That is the crux of any martial art. It has to keep evolving.
@Aikidoflow Hi, what ranks are you? I love yer videos. I reckon that Riyuji Shirakawa Sensei has a fine and efficient Aikido that has been tested against various martial arts artists. He is in Britain on tour for workshops I think. Cheers from Brussels, Belgium Thomas
I think it's all good. I've been studying Qigong and I'm starting to get a better understanding of the health benefits of Ki. I guess you could compare it to Tai Chi where the source of moves are practical but you wouldn't train in some styles of Tai Chi for self-defence.
Most amazing thing about this video is the Sun is actually shining for once 😂 as someone living in Ireland its promising to see sun out somewhere so near lol
Ueshiba knew more than what he taught in my opinion. He was a student of classical Jujitsu. He had a lot more knowledge than what is taught in Aikido. I wouldn’t say he was holding back but he had streamlined it. Hence Aikido. Aikido needs Judo. It needs actual sparring and a ground game.
It's never been the art, more the way it is trained. Pre WW2 Aikido/Aikijutsu involved a practical outcome as the focus, and randoori often ended on the floor. Modern Aikido has become cooperative nonsense from a practical sense, and very few dojo's pressure test anything, spar, or even formally teach absolute martial basics like punching, kicking, basic takedowns and takedown defences etc. That's fine but dont call what you do a "martial Art" because it patently isnt. There are a growing number of groups out there like ourselves thankfully that are entirely focused upon employing traditional Aiki "principles" but with efficient and reliable outcomes.
Training becomes the objective. A good training partner allows their partner to do the technique. I wish I had system near me like you do here. I get hurt on ground and your use standing grappling might work for me.
The title implies it actually was relevant at some time ;-) It's best and really only example practicioner is Steven Seagal and that is a poor lot to toss your hat in with. It was never shown off in the UFC - which was shameful that was the test for all the traditional arts back in the day. To the founder - he was a master of several arts and Aikido was his combination, which was brutally effective. What you see when you watch and read about him is a master at work, not easy to duplicate, and not easy to train towards. Aikido is not for the feint of heart if you are 'doing it right'
I have to disagree with what you said about O Sensei. He was very big on atemi. He is quoted as saying "atemi is 70% and technique is 30%" and that "one strike can kill". I think the 'floatiness' problem came from ukes becoming TOO cooperative over time. It's a difficult line because, of course, ukemi is about protecting yourself but we are all guilty of taking it too readily sometimes to help tori look/feel good. Often you watch aikido and it seems like uke is practically throwing themselves.
If you look at nippon kenpo which along with kudo is the most brutal of Japanese martial arts its ancestry is from the same well as Aikido a lot of NK practioners also do aikido and use it as their "soft" training. The trouble is in the west where people seem to stay in one martial arts camp and see their art as "best" and the contrast between hard and soft martial arts doesn't seem to be as appreciated as much.
I'm kinda feeling Lucky to NOT be one of the people that started Aikido because of Seagul or because I thought it was like magic. Before starting Aikido I actually read the Fucking Brochure 🤣👍
Personally I believe that Aikidoka need to practice with a partner that is not cooperating all of the time. The practice of Hikitategeiko teaches Aikidoka how to change from on techniques to anothef if a technique fails.
Aikido never done it believe its had bad press. But sure it has its uses. But are more populat arts out there like judo kung fu, karate etc. Until covid i did genbukan traditional jujitsu thaijitsu and nimpobugi. I enjoyed it at the time did this 10 years off and on. Then did 10 days of bjj, then they had to close due to covid too.
Dont forget guys they are making movies, its not real. Not a fan of segal but does do good things. Bruce lee or jean claude vandam like in caned heat for example very good.
Gozo Shioda was plenty relevant - he was pretty much Ueshiba's number one student; Seagal lied about his ranking at some point in time, or belt, and so on; i wouldn't consider him at all; if you want relevant - there are so many others, Christian Tissier is one of my favorites, for AIkikai.
MOST martial arts are WATERED DOWN CRAP compared to the ORIGINALS of each art. These arts were for SURVIVAL and NOT the " sweet passive sport waterered down BS" that they are now!!! Aikido--- came from aikijutsu and is now TEN SHIN Aikido--- extremely powerful and works GREAT on the streets...
Seagal's movie choreography is not Aikido. It's a mix of techniques, mostly Jujutsu. And he has almost never user the main Aikido principle in movies. BTW, Aikido is indeed not relevant for the street. But its principles are and have always been relevant. Timinig, positioning, body relaxation, disbalancing. A few masters like Rick Hotton understand their value.
Once again!! Excuse me But! you are starting at the wrong premise - www.youtube.com/@fudo9/videos This is "KI" Everything you see in these vids begins at "the feet" Leverage = TORIFUNE", the internal energy generator, where body weight meets leverage, + the tanden, we have "internal power" Aikido. You know half Aikido. You never continued it. It stopped. Excuse me But! you are starting at the wrong premise - You are talking the Aikido broken down so that normal people can study and learn it. Then we are supposed to put it back together to use with experience, using Aikido/Budo principles. I don't see thay here. You are in the box talking/teaching about everything 'in the box.” All is fiction. From out-side the box Aikido we see only how study Aikido, broken down to study. Aikido exist because our anatomical shape exist. That how it was found. What is the greatest weapon we all, of all sizes, posses? The vertical gravitational body weight "Body Weight" which you never mention or use. I can see/hear what you say. A punch is only as good as the weight/strength behind it/? Correct? Body weight knocks out, throws and kills. You never use it. You use just fists and shoulders. Where does the Ki exist in your Aikido?? I see Ki in a kicked football, a flying tennis ball, a frizbie even. Where is the/your ki?? Internal Aikido Ki!? A small persons body can walk strait through a big strong person at the Chudan level anytime taking them with them. “Leverage” - leverage is far more powerful than muscle power anytime, anywhere! this is correct? Yes it is! “Leverage” - leverage is everything!! more powerful than muscle power anytime, anywhere! this is correct? Show me where/when it isn’t. You never use leverage as a stand alone attack, or know how too! “WALKING IS LEVERAGE!! You don't take ballance, or use "one" centre, or drop your body weight onto the attaker. It's all shoulders and fists. You are showing us “grunt” Aikido. Why is that!?
The name of the movie was above the law yes I remember when he done that to the big boy Steven put him right on his back with 1 Swift punch to the midsection !!!
Love it to the max guys! Love how after Azu tells his security story, how Jason says, "Hopefully there isn't any police watching this video!" LMAO🤣
Iv been watching you guys for 8 years if there is something i learned and i use it in my daily life is to not have a big Ego. Great video as always!
Well said.... since I learned from a professional how to fight I have never been forced into a fight since! more than 20 years now.
As always very good video! Very true about the usefulness of Aikido and as you have said before, the opinions that you have.. complete destruction not always necessary! And moving close to the attacker, most unexpected. Best Aikido channel on the tube. Big love and hope you well Azu. Thank you for the shout 🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️👊
Had to mention you guys. Easily one of the best dojo's out there.
Thank you 🙏 @@azuspointofview5110 ps I just noticed options not opinions as auto correct changed for me!! 🤦🏻doh!
I think Aikido took a weird turn when people started to romantisize the concept of a "non-violent" martial art, similar to Judo. They just liked the unrealistic idea of defeating an opponent with little to no effort and the aim to creating a frustrating situation for the attacker to not be able to actually even touch and therefor hurt you. So there were a lot "masters" who abstracted the original execution of Aikido to something highly impractical and almost useless, but it is important to mentian, that not all Aikido masters took that route, there is till enough "schools" that teach it in the original, aggressive and highly functional way. And no matter how much of a joke Steven Segal is as a person, his Aikido is totally legit and I am glad he puts that to proof with his latest public demonstrations. And now with the emergence of MMA and people exploring and mixing different concepts, the original Aikido became more relevant again, because it is indeed functional if you are lucky enough to find an Aikido school that doesn't teach the BS-Aikido.
💯 agree
Yeah agree, (with all except the Steven Seagal comment that guys a fat joke) unfortunately good luck finding a dojo that isn't BS Aikido.
@@deathbare5306 Yes, he is what you described him as, I wouldn't argue with that. But his Aikido is absolutely legit. Everything else is highly questionable.
A very good analysis. Well put. It is good to see.
Leverage = TORIFUNE", the internal energy generator, where the vertical "Body
Weight" meets leverage, + the tanden, here we have "internal power" Aikido.
This moves the strength away from the shoulders completely, minus pinning and throws, giving us energy/ki to work with.
Sensei's stopped learning/teaching Aikido half way in.
All of the info is there if we go back and have a look. The Aikido we learn exists to learn/study Aikido. Now we have to put it back together from where it came.
The Human Anatomy. The body moves at the same speed as the "cut" it is not a cut sepereated from the body. Check, when posture is broked all the time =
no body weight is used. It goes on. Critical thiking must be part of the thought/taeaching processe. Grunt Aikido doesn't work. Aikido works because the Human Anatomy exist.
Hey!! It's Heckel and Jeckel😅!! Seriously, it's good to see you fools again. You guys are very entertaining (and I mean that), I was worried about you guys, but your back up again!! It's fun to watch you guys, and it's also fun to watch people try to functionalize Aikido, but keep making this great content, I love you guys, and the comments are kind of fun too.
Great video again guys. Keep’em coming
Great advice,thank you!💯👍!
Nice one guys 👍
Like any martial art, as you say in the video it's relevant depending on how you train it.
Thanks for giving a shout out to Luton Aikido club 🙏 it's always nice to see you there 🥋👊
Love the house and trees in the garden behind
Made you a better person. A fantastic result
Get OFF that line of attack !
You never want to be on the receiving end of someone's full force...... that's what Aikido has taught me.
And you're right, you can't dodge forever. Better to move in to his blindspot. Take him off balance
Love your content. Best wishes from Toronto Canada.
Love from Portugal!❤
👍👍👍👍walk at peace and be ready when you have too
Those are damn good points. Great video.
If your a true practitioner of Aikido you know that it's still relevant. I didn't even know what Aikido was until Steven Segals 1st movies in the mid 80s. He's the reason i studied Aikido for 10 years. Azu its like you said in one of your earlier videos yrs ago. Aikido gives you choice. Keep up the good work Aikido Flow family.
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In my Dojo, I have trained under different masters, they all have added yo the techniques. They have included stuff from Karate, boxing, judo, and what not. That is the crux of any martial art. It has to keep evolving.
@Aikidoflow
Hi, what ranks are you?
I love yer videos.
I reckon that Riyuji Shirakawa Sensei has a fine and efficient Aikido that has been tested against various martial arts artists.
He is in Britain on tour for workshops I think.
Cheers from Brussels, Belgium
Thomas
Good to see you lads back
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I think it's all good. I've been studying Qigong and I'm starting to get a better understanding of the health benefits of Ki. I guess you could compare it to Tai Chi where the source of moves are practical but you wouldn't train in some styles of Tai Chi for self-defence.
Yes Aikido is good!
Any martial art i.e., Aikido, Judo, Jeet Kun Do, etc., is relevant.
Well said. If you can make it work for you, it doesn't matter what it is called or if it is what the masses deem popular.
Most amazing thing about this video is the Sun is actually shining for once 😂 as someone living in Ireland its promising to see sun out somewhere so near lol
Laugh out loud....
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Ueshiba knew more than what he taught in my opinion. He was a student of classical Jujitsu. He had a lot more knowledge than what is taught in Aikido. I wouldn’t say he was holding back but he had streamlined it. Hence Aikido. Aikido needs Judo. It needs actual sparring and a ground game.
It's never been the art, more the way it is trained. Pre WW2 Aikido/Aikijutsu involved a practical outcome as the focus, and randoori often ended on the floor. Modern Aikido has become cooperative nonsense from a practical sense, and very few dojo's pressure test anything, spar, or even formally teach absolute martial basics like punching, kicking, basic takedowns and takedown defences etc. That's fine but dont call what you do a "martial Art" because it patently isnt. There are a growing number of groups out there like ourselves thankfully that are entirely focused upon employing traditional Aiki "principles" but with efficient and reliable outcomes.
You guys are amazing. Treaters & great people.. Ghanii from Morocco
Training becomes the objective. A good training partner allows their partner to do the technique. I wish I had system near me like you do here. I get hurt on ground and your use standing grappling might work for me.
top vid
It will always be with proper training.
I just do the chop, All the way to the ground,Saved my life when I was living on the beach
The axe hand is the best strike, I'm glad that technique saved your life.....
The title implies it actually was relevant at some time ;-) It's best and really only example practicioner is Steven Seagal and that is a poor lot to toss your hat in with. It was never shown off in the UFC - which was shameful that was the test for all the traditional arts back in the day. To the founder - he was a master of several arts and Aikido was his combination, which was brutally effective. What you see when you watch and read about him is a master at work, not easy to duplicate, and not easy to train towards. Aikido is not for the feint of heart if you are 'doing it right'
Set up your randori with tsuki or strikes.
I have to disagree with what you said about O Sensei. He was very big on atemi. He is quoted as saying "atemi is 70% and technique is 30%" and that "one strike can kill". I think the 'floatiness' problem came from ukes becoming TOO cooperative over time. It's a difficult line because, of course, ukemi is about protecting yourself but we are all guilty of taking it too readily sometimes to help tori look/feel good. Often you watch aikido and it seems like uke is practically throwing themselves.
Now it makes sense why you would comment
If you look at nippon kenpo which along with kudo is the most brutal of Japanese martial arts its ancestry is from the same well as Aikido a lot of NK practioners also do aikido and use it as their "soft" training. The trouble is in the west where people seem to stay in one martial arts camp and see their art as "best" and the contrast between hard and soft martial arts doesn't seem to be as appreciated as much.
REAL Aikido jutsu was always relevant to me. It helped me in my boxing as well! Ya, there are haters, but the Martial aspect is real and does work!
works against? toddlers?
I'm kinda feeling Lucky to NOT be one of the people that started Aikido because of Seagul or because I thought it was like magic.
Before starting Aikido I actually read the Fucking Brochure 🤣👍
What happened to the Jo staff and bokken?
Personally I believe that Aikidoka need to practice with a partner that is not cooperating all of the time. The practice of Hikitategeiko teaches Aikidoka how to change from on techniques to anothef if a technique fails.
Speaking of Lenny Sly, where is the guy now? I really like his version of Aikido.
Aikido never done it believe its had bad press. But sure it has its uses. But are more populat arts out there like judo kung fu, karate etc.
Until covid i did genbukan traditional jujitsu thaijitsu and nimpobugi. I enjoyed it at the time did this 10 years off and on.
Then did 10 days of bjj, then they had to close due to covid too.
Steven Seagal was cruel on set, didn’t pull punches with his fellow actors. No one, including myself, wanted to work with him.
Nice vidéo i did 5 years of aikijitsutsu now i am doing bjj my aikijitsutsu moves dont work there
Dont forget guys they are making movies, its not real. Not a fan of segal but does do good things.
Bruce lee or jean claude vandam like in caned heat for example very good.
Gozo Shioda was plenty relevant - he was pretty much Ueshiba's number one student; Seagal lied about his ranking at some point in time, or belt, and so on; i wouldn't consider him at all; if you want relevant - there are so many others, Christian Tissier is one of my favorites, for AIkikai.
MOST martial arts are WATERED DOWN CRAP compared to the ORIGINALS of each art. These arts were for SURVIVAL and NOT the " sweet passive sport waterered down BS" that they are now!!! Aikido--- came from aikijutsu and is now TEN SHIN Aikido--- extremely powerful and works GREAT on the streets...
I have always thought ura techniques will not work, what does anyone else think
Seagal's movie choreography is not Aikido. It's a mix of techniques, mostly Jujutsu. And he has almost never user the main Aikido principle in movies.
BTW, Aikido is indeed not relevant for the street. But its principles are and have always been relevant. Timinig, positioning, body relaxation, disbalancing. A few masters like Rick Hotton understand their value.
What if someone like you is the attacker
Has Aikido stopped working? For the love of all things Holy, When did it ever start? Good for a choreographical dance & show but thats it
Aikido means im kidding.
first
cuz u rellay couldnt got a grip???
Once again!!
Excuse me But! you are starting at the wrong premise -
www.youtube.com/@fudo9/videos
This is "KI" Everything you see in these vids begins at "the feet"
Leverage = TORIFUNE", the internal energy generator, where body
weight meets leverage, + the tanden, we have "internal power" Aikido.
You know half Aikido. You never continued it. It stopped.
Excuse me But! you are starting at the wrong premise -
You are talking the Aikido broken down so that normal people can
study and learn it. Then we are supposed to put it back together to use
with experience, using Aikido/Budo principles. I don't see thay here.
You are in the box talking/teaching about everything 'in the box.” All is fiction.
From out-side the box Aikido we see only how study Aikido, broken down to study.
Aikido exist because our anatomical shape exist. That how it was found.
What is the greatest weapon we all, of all sizes, posses?
The vertical gravitational body weight "Body Weight"
which you never mention or use. I can see/hear what you say.
A punch is only as good as the weight/strength behind it/? Correct?
Body weight knocks out, throws and kills. You never use it. You use just fists
and shoulders. Where does the Ki exist in your Aikido??
I see Ki in a kicked football, a flying tennis ball, a frizbie even. Where is the/your ki??
Internal Aikido Ki!?
A small persons body can walk strait through a big strong person at the
Chudan level anytime taking them with them.
“Leverage” - leverage is far more powerful than muscle power anytime, anywhere!
this is correct? Yes it is!
“Leverage” - leverage is everything!! more powerful than muscle power anytime, anywhere! this is correct?
Show me where/when it isn’t. You never use leverage as a stand alone attack, or know how too! “WALKING IS LEVERAGE!!
You don't take ballance, or use "one" centre, or drop your body weight onto the attaker.
It's all shoulders and fists.
You are showing us “grunt” Aikido. Why is that!?
After 50+ years, I still feel aikido has never been relevant
Nope it's not.
Why are you even watching it if it is not relevant?
The name of the movie was above the law yes I remember when he done that to the big boy Steven put him right on his back with 1 Swift punch to the midsection !!!
That's right.