A brilliant video froggy. Once again you show why this is the best ww2 sim by a mile. Quite cool to see that debris and wreckage is able to cause damage to you after aircraft has been shot down.
Why the bombers in the game act like they have no rear gunner and the P-47 is just sitting in the air like duck waiting to be shot down without a slighest reaction to the enemy behind?
That's the modern AI for you. Both Il-2 and DCS suffers from it, unfortunately. Il-2 1946's old, streamlined AI could kinda cheat a little, but at least it was a challenge to fight. Then again, he isn't flying like a sitting duck either. The bombers' gunners *are* firing, you can see the tracers. They just can't seem to hit him either way.
Due to shortages of metal supply, the germans used wooden propellars late in the war. This also wouldn't break or bent the crankshaft of the engine and thus making the engine reusable, in case of emergency wheel up landings...
@@gpmurf Well, that might very well be, but I learned this from the guys of the Messerschidt corp., the day before Rote 7 fell out of the sky in Roskilde. The idea was apparently, to reuse nondestroyed materials...
Dear Il2 Pilots; I'm a DCS Pilot, and I love the WW2 birds.. except that some planes in DCS are almost unlandable and are very difficult to not stall all the time in dogfights. How is IL2 compared to that? easier? more enjoyable?
Name a DCS module that is not "landable". They are all fine flight models that do take a bit of time to learn, but they are all excellent. IL2 BOS etc., I own almost all of them, and they are very detailed but honestly the DCS WWII planes are of higher fidelity. It is worth the time and effort to fly them correctly if you like that sort of thing.
Hi Cult, very simply - DCS is excellent with modern aircrafts, but DCS WWII is not so good as IL2 GB series. Of course it is only my personal opinion. I have all modules for DCS (F14 included :)) and i can compare Dora and Kurfurst as well. D9 and K4 in IL2 have not clicable cockpit, but in all other things are better than the same planes in DCS. Big difference is in MP - never saw in DCS so great battles like in IL2 servers. DCS is rather an aircraft systems trainer while IL2GB focuses on simulating the flight itself. DCS is a great game without any doubt, but IL2 is simply more fun. As I wrote above, it's just my personal opinion. P. S. Sorry for my scarry english.
The dreaded tip stall. Some planes are worse than others. After a while you notice the onset early and avoid a full stall. The P51 is a reet bastud for it, and gives no warning. The Me109K4 is quite benign, but the Tempest V is the best in the turning dogfight.
Amazing! Quick questions, at what realism level was this game set at when u played? And can that be increased further? I ask because I’m interested in playing it at max realism and although it looked quite fun, some maneuvers towards the end seemed a bit fantastical. Thanks for posting it.
Not a pilot, Just like 30 mins or so in a Cessna with a pilot friend who let me bank and turn. I understand the fundamentals. So what is your experience with this sim’s reality settings? I assume since you could do all that you must be familiar with it’s config?
The skins on these new planes are 4k and Im at 144op which is the next step down from 4k, so yes some elements are 4k or close to. Cheers, yeh its pretty amazing haha.
How did you get the damages on the Propeller? It Looks like you have shot it away yourself with your own guns. Btw, the 1st mechanic will you kick the ass if you bring back him the Dora in such a stage.
Wel I chopped the tail clean off that thunderbolt by firing at it with several cannon and heavy MG - that tail would have colided with thw prop and my tail plane for as well...
haha yeh its the wingspan of the listed aircraft to adjust the gun sight, for example, if a bomber has a winspan of 25 meters, you set 25 on you sight and then you decide what range you want and set that ie 500 meters or 100 meters etc. Then once the wingtips of the target fill the reticle you know you will score some hits.
May have to get il2 again. Played original for so many years. Never got the new one when cliffs came out. Been addicted to dcs though. And now that f14 is out I am just in love. Even though you could probably best me in the dcs warbirds against me in the f14 at this point. Lol
Is the P-47 really that bad in comparison to this bird? I mean it I know its speed advantage is negated at low alts but at high speeds it should outturn the dora, as FW190s were notorious for their high wing loading and attrocious turning...
Yeh I think the Dora's got the massive edge, BUT Ill be exploring this exact question in my next vid :) Im gonna fly the 47 against some Doras and see what happens haha.
I think the D was supposed to have slightly better turn characteristics than the A owing to the longer wing. That said, FW190A pilots said that if flown with determination, a FW190A could successfully turn with a Spitfire, so the initial turn would not be such an issue. Frog only engaged for a partial turn and coming in from behind, so the overall turning capability might not be such an issue in that tactical situation. :)
The P-47 always gets a bad rap because the engine is so under-rated. The P-47D was rated at 62" of Mercury. But, read about Johnson or any other pilot of the era, they routinely boosted to 72 inches of mercury. Johnson said at 32,000 feet he could do 470 mph in a P-47D-5. Many others said the sam thing. P&W rated the engine at 62" so they could guarantee payment but they knew it would take over 70". There reps went out to the field and told the P-47 mechanics how to tune up the turbo waste gates to get it
So far ,in my experience, the Dora 9 is the best performing fighter in the sim although it is a bit twitchy in tight high speed turns. Flying any German fighter,( including the Me110 !!) I can pretty much control the engagement. When flying the 'Bolt it seems if I do anything but B&Z I find myself struggling for altitude .
Oh yeh they were gonna release both at once, Im inclined to reckon the Dora was available earlier than expected, I think the 262 is gonna be ready real soon. What a trip it will be to fly that thing haha :)
The aircraft was stationed at me 262 fields to defend the 262's while taking off and landing, when they were most vulnerable. The bottom paint scheme was to identify it so anti aircraft guns wouldn't shoot at it by mistake.
In servers the things are much differents .Try for example the Berloga server and see what it will be happen.But the point is that was an exxelent plane and if hit the enemy with this weapons there is no luck for the enemy.
@Petr Vrána An aircraft without an engine is not a glider. I've been on board an aircraft losing his engines, its amazing how much altitude it loses and you have to find a place to land quickly, everything is a one shot deal.
When landing this way pilots shooting cannons - speed down faster ( if have bullets in it) Machine guns are useless. Nope , dora too heavy and weak motor - la5fn on the top ww2. And may be better all american & english jugers
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Dora.....the destroya! One of my favorite WWII aircraft. From either side.
Same here one of the best planes ever :)
A brilliant video froggy. Once again you show why this is the best ww2 sim by a mile. Quite cool to see that debris and wreckage is able to cause damage to you after aircraft has been shot down.
Thanks I appreciate it :) Yeh it is an amazing sim - and a super product, I actually regard IL-2 as the best flight sim of them all at this time.
Nice stuff, though no pilot in his right mind would try a wheels down landing with that kind of damage :)
That was damn fine flying, man.
Thanks :) And she's definitely a 'pilots' plane.
Damn this is a beautiful game with an amazing physics engine. How have I not heard of it?
Never heard of any of the IL-2 games? It's been the best WW2 flight sim series for the last 19 years.
@@Ditch901 it requires extra equipment and has a huge learning curve though.
Brilliant landing, reducing speed by going up then going down.
Funnest lander ever. lol :)
One LUCKY SOB pilot!! ☺️
Gutsy move to lose airspeed 👍
lol
Great video !!!!! It was so much fun to watch !!!!! :-)
thanks man
love the german gyro sight :D
какой игровой сервер ? combat box red flight ?
single player.
@@FroggyFrog9000 ruclips.net/video/FLhNVN0S7IQ/видео.html
my video
1:57 what is the table with allied fighters, respetively what mean those numbers?
target wingspan
5:03 "You should see the other guy!"
hell of a landing.. thumbs up.
Hi! Is it me or the texture, the lighting and reflection effects on that Dora are much more beautiful than on the previews aircraft?
Yes, some aircraft including Dora are starting to get 4k quality texture skins, much more awesome haha :)
gyroscope on fw190? noice
I have seen almost all your video are amazing!!!! What your favorite plane? And what are these numbers on gunsight?
Thanks man. I like them all. numbers I dunno some kind of aiming thing. lol.
Beautiful...
Why the bombers in the game act like they have no rear gunner and the P-47 is just sitting in the air like duck waiting to be shot down without a slighest reaction to the enemy behind?
That's the modern AI for you. Both Il-2 and DCS suffers from it, unfortunately. Il-2 1946's old, streamlined AI could kinda cheat a little, but at least it was a challenge to fight.
Then again, he isn't flying like a sitting duck either. The bombers' gunners *are* firing, you can see the tracers. They just can't seem to hit him either way.
That radial is still going on the p47 even with a missing tail and wing falling in a flat spin! Lol
THAT is a reliable engine haha
Dora Dora Dora the -explorer- *_destroyer_*
Excelent pilot yessss
Красава! Посадка- блеск, аплодирую!
Hello from Brasil.I buy a D-9 1:32 Revell model in 1986, but don't have inks for assemble. Very super slow motion
Cool! I had a model D-9 too haha :)
Did Dora's propeller make from wood??
Yeh ruclips.net/video/qH8oE-UGk9A/видео.html
The Carbon Fiber of the day was just too new of a technology so they often relied on the tried and true wood. LOL
Due to shortages of metal supply, the germans used wooden propellars late in the war. This also wouldn't break or bent the crankshaft of the engine and thus making the engine reusable, in case of emergency wheel up landings...
@@lugatzmajr4714 Any engine which has a sudden stop, regardless of the prop material, will require a complete rebuild before re-entering service.
@@gpmurf Well, that might very well be, but I learned this from the guys of the Messerschidt corp., the day before Rote 7 fell out of the sky in Roskilde. The idea was apparently, to reuse nondestroyed materials...
Dear Il2 Pilots; I'm a DCS Pilot, and I love the WW2 birds.. except that some planes in DCS are almost unlandable and are very difficult to not stall all the time in dogfights. How is IL2 compared to that? easier? more enjoyable?
very much so. Join the dark side!
Name a DCS module that is not "landable". They are all fine flight models that do take a bit of time to learn, but they are all excellent. IL2 BOS etc., I own almost all of them, and they are very detailed but honestly the DCS WWII planes are of higher fidelity. It is worth the time and effort to fly them correctly if you like that sort of thing.
Hi Cult,
very simply - DCS is excellent with modern aircrafts, but DCS WWII is not so good as IL2 GB series. Of course it is only my personal opinion. I have all modules for DCS (F14 included :)) and i can compare Dora and Kurfurst as well. D9 and K4 in IL2 have not clicable cockpit, but in all other things are better than the same planes in DCS. Big difference is in MP - never saw in DCS so great battles like in IL2 servers. DCS is rather an aircraft systems trainer while IL2GB focuses on simulating the flight itself. DCS is a great game without any doubt, but IL2 is simply more fun. As I wrote above, it's just my personal opinion.
P. S. Sorry for my scarry english.
The dreaded tip stall. Some planes are worse than others. After a while you notice the onset early and avoid a full stall. The P51 is a reet bastud for it, and gives no warning. The Me109K4 is quite benign, but the Tempest V is the best in the turning dogfight.
Beautiful plane
I would love to play this but I don't have a good setup haha. I dont think I could do it with a mouse and keyboard either.
yeh nah hav a look here froggyfrog9000.com/my-rig/
In my language, the title rhymes as "Dora la destructora :0".
lol
Аплодирую стоя!
Sorry for stupid question but... To fly the Prokhorovka tanks map, you have to buy tanks.. Right?
Yes, except for MP where you can join a server that is hosting that map. For SP you need to own Tank Crew.
@@cbz3237 Thank you
Amazing! Quick questions, at what realism level was this game set at when u played? And can that be increased further? I ask because I’m interested in playing it at max realism and although it looked quite fun, some maneuvers towards the end seemed a bit fantastical. Thanks for posting it.
Have you ever flown a plane in real life?
Not a pilot, Just like 30 mins or so in a Cessna with a pilot friend who let me bank and turn. I understand the fundamentals. So what is your experience with this sim’s reality settings? I assume since you could do all that you must be familiar with it’s config?
Bravo !
What is that list with the planes for?
target wingspans
Beautiful game
Do you play in 4K? The graphics are so sharp and crispy. Brilliant!
The skins on these new planes are 4k and Im at 144op which is the next step down from 4k, so yes some elements are 4k or close to. Cheers, yeh its pretty amazing haha.
How did you get the damages on the Propeller? It Looks like you have shot it away yourself with your own guns. Btw, the 1st mechanic will you kick the ass if you bring back him the Dora in such a stage.
Wel I chopped the tail clean off that thunderbolt by firing at it with several cannon and heavy MG - that tail would have colided with thw prop and my tail plane for as well...
BOSS.
your post is awesome.
nice landing
The thing dives well at high speed with no propeller or tail plane left haha
What are the numbers for on the HUD padding?
Thats how much steins of beer you gotta drink after you shoot down each plane...
woah, better not have a flight in the next week then. LOL
haha yeh its the wingspan of the listed aircraft to adjust the gun sight, for example, if a bomber has a winspan of 25 meters, you set 25 on you sight and then you decide what range you want and set that ie 500 meters or 100 meters etc. Then once the wingtips of the target fill the reticle you know you will score some hits.
Figured it was something like that. Thanks for confirming.
May have to get il2 again. Played original for so many years. Never got the new one when cliffs came out. Been addicted to dcs though. And now that f14 is out I am just in love. Even though you could probably best me in the dcs warbirds against me in the f14 at this point. Lol
Is the P-47 really that bad in comparison to this bird? I mean it I know its speed advantage is negated at low alts but at high speeds it should outturn the dora, as FW190s were notorious for their high wing loading and attrocious turning...
Yeh I think the Dora's got the massive edge, BUT Ill be exploring this exact question in my next vid :) Im gonna fly the 47 against some Doras and see what happens haha.
@@FroggyFrog9000 Great! Ill be subbed and waiting :))
I think the D was supposed to have slightly better turn characteristics than the A owing to the longer wing. That said, FW190A pilots said that if flown with determination, a FW190A could successfully turn with a Spitfire, so the initial turn would not be such an issue.
Frog only engaged for a partial turn and coming in from behind, so the overall turning capability might not be such an issue in that tactical situation. :)
The P-47 always gets a bad rap because the engine is so under-rated. The P-47D was rated at 62" of Mercury. But, read about Johnson or any other pilot of the era, they routinely boosted to 72 inches of mercury. Johnson said at 32,000 feet he could do 470 mph in a P-47D-5. Many others said the sam thing. P&W rated the engine at 62" so they could guarantee payment but they knew it would take over 70". There reps went out to the field and told the P-47 mechanics how to tune up the turbo waste gates to get it
So far ,in my experience, the Dora 9 is the best performing fighter in the sim although it is a bit twitchy in tight high speed turns. Flying any German fighter,( including the Me110 !!) I can pretty much control the engagement. When flying the 'Bolt it seems if I do anything but B&Z I find myself struggling for altitude .
Cool
patiently waiting for the Me-262...
Oh yeh they were gonna release both at once, Im inclined to reckon the Dora was available earlier than expected, I think the 262 is gonna be ready real soon. What a trip it will be to fly that thing haha :)
@@FroggyFrog9000 gonna be boom and zoom city
Sweaty palms on the duck @ 2:24 !
I now know the elevator definitely works at high speed haha.
strange paint scheme...but what a beauty!
The aircraft was stationed at me 262 fields to defend the 262's while taking off and landing, when they were most vulnerable. The bottom paint scheme was to identify it so anti aircraft guns wouldn't shoot at it by mistake.
Some say the P-47 engine is still running.
Where was the rest of the P47 squadron to nail that Fw190?
In servers the things are much differents .Try for example the Berloga server and see what it will be happen.But the point is that was an exxelent plane and if hit the enemy with this weapons there is no luck for the enemy.
Oh yeh I tried online yesterday - I sucked, but it was pretty fun haha
@@FroggyFrog9000 Try with K4 ...exxelent performance.... i prefer it....
You use such a cheap stick?
0Turbox it’s not that cheap I paid like $70 at jb hi fi. But I hear thrustmaster is the high end, so I’ll probably get a warthog at some point.
@@FroggyFrog9000 I clicked your rev. and it shows me 34,00 $ at Amazon. I never tried the Warthog, I'm still tied to my two MS FF II's ;) No rudders?
Yeh way cheaper online, its the way to go. lol. Rudder pedals are optional, in my opinion, but can add to the overall experience.
Finest single engine aircraft of any war.
Good joke
Bull shit!
Dora the
Zerstörer (might as well be in German)
он че сам себе лопастя отстрелил?
Reality is you lose an engine or the propeller, you bail out, you're going down fast.
Exactly. Not realistic at all with many of the flight maneuvers. No red or black out at all...Still entertaining, but lets be real...or not.
@Petr Vrána An aircraft without an engine is not a glider. I've been on board an aircraft losing his engines, its amazing how much altitude it loses and you have to find a place to land quickly, everything is a one shot deal.
FIGO😃
This game makes looks like the aircraft is being hunged by the engine...
Well, every airplane is....
rigidly ... :)
yeh
When landing this way pilots shooting cannons - speed down faster ( if have bullets in it) Machine guns are useless. Nope , dora too heavy and weak motor - la5fn on the top ww2. And may be better all american & english jugers
the Rhineland map is very poorly optimized especially when flying near big cities, do not use this map, it is full of freezes and stutters
you spammer you said this a year ago and you pasted this comment on three of my viddos right now.