An Abridged History of Japanese Typing Games: From Typing Lesson to Typing Fighter II
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- Опубликовано: 15 дек 2023
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Apologies for any audio gaffes, I am uploading this from a hotel.
A video covering typing tutors in Japan, starting with type-in games in magazines, with focus on Harumi Takahashi, and also covering notable works in that genre such as a Ozawa-Ken, Toku-uchi Gunfight With Keyboard, Sword of Kumdor, Typing of the Dead, many licensed anime games, and others.
Apologies for any image quality - some of the sources for this one were quite old. Contains some flashing lights.
Sword of Kumdor's translation page:
foldr.moe/kumdor/
Videos mentioned at the end of the video:
DDMooogz' channel:
www.youtube.com/@ritsuwins/vi...
Curious Arcade's excellent video on Typing Tutors:
• A Brief History of Typ...
Yay! When I started watching this video, I was wondering if you would mention The Typing of Ys. It's a bit surreal to see footage of it here, as I'm the guy who translated Zwei: The Arges Adventure, and Typing of Ys with it! Dunno how much Zwei you played to get that footage, but it remains one of my proudest works as a localizer to this very day.
Really fascinating video -- Sword of Kumdor had somehow flown completely under my radar, but it looks and sounds absolutely FANTASTIC, and is definitely a game I'll need to look into more!
Looking forward to your deep dive into Relics, as I'm pretty fascinated by that series. What really intrigues me, actually, is RINNE -- the Relics game Bothtec had Falcom develop for them, but which Falcom conspicuously never mentions on their website, even in their exhaustive release history timeline. The only acknowledgment of it I've ever seen is in the reveal trailer for Xanadu Next, which uses a track from RINNE's OST -- though it's not credited as such, instead finding its way onto the official Xanadu Next soundtrack as trailer music, as if it were composed specifically FOR Xanadu Next and not taken from an unrelated game. I'm wondering what the story might be behind that whole situation, as I feel like there must be one.
Yep. Relics was a suggestion from a viewer so that'll have a "this video was suggested by" right at the start, but I will be looking into the many oddities surrounding it. RIN:NE, the new fansub, why the heck a series inspired by HR Giger had children's events, etc.
Also, THAT'S YOU? Comment pinned.
@@f_t_b2238 Bit of an odd choice for pinning on a video about typing tutors, but hey, I'll take it! ;)
Yeah, I worked at XSEED for about eight and a half years, and was initially brought on partially due to my obsessive Falcom fandom, so I had a hand in most of the Falcom titles XSEED released (though I was less involved in the Trails games than the others). For most of them, I was working as a localization reviewer/editor, though I was given both Zwei: The Arges Adventure and Brandish: The Dark Revenant as solo localization projects, basically -- which suited me just fine, as I absolutely ADORE both of those games, and thoroughly enjoyed my time with them. Zwei especially, since Pokkle and Pipiro are literally the best protagonists I could ever imagine writing for -- one a dorky punster with a thing for cougars, and the other an absolutely filterless spitfire. SO much fun trying to capture their quirky personalities in English!
I don't think I have much insight I can really give about anything relating to any of these titles, but hey, if you ever have any questions pertaining to the localizations of Falcom games prior to the NISA Falcom era, I'm happy to answer (provided that answer doesn't delve into heavily NDAed territory, of course).
@@Wyrdwad I picked up a boxed copy of RINNE a few years ago and have meant to try it out someday. I had no idea it was related to the RELICS series. And, I believe the reason Falcom never lists it is because it was published by SoftBank instead of Falcom.
@@BasementBrothers I think Falcom lists third-party games published under license from them in their timeline, though, don't they? (I could look it up before replying, but figure the lazier thing to do is just claim as such based on decades-old memories and leave it at that! Heheh.)
I'm in kind of the same boat as you with RINNE, though: I've had the game for ages, but have never actually sat down and played it. I tried once, but it takes SO LONG before you get to a point when you can save, and I happened to die before then, so I had to start the whole game over from scratch, which I really didn't feel like doing. So I moved on to Dinosaur: Resurrection instead, and wound up becoming obsessed with that game for so long that I kind of just put RINNE by the wayside, and never did get back to it.
Also, nice to see you here! I really appreciate being able to interact with you, F_T_B, and others who post such amazingly informative and interesting videos. One of these days, I'll finally start making videos of my own on some of the MSX obscurities I know and love, I just need to get motivated (and work out my capture setup!) -- but every time I see videos from you guys, it brings me another step of the way there! Thanks for doing what you do -- and that goes for F_T_B as well, of course!
@@Wyrdwad The only other game I can even think of that was developed completely by Falcom but published by another company in Japan is the Famicom version of Dragonslayer IV, but I might be forgetting something really obvious.
I suppose the other reason could be that it's considered part of the RELICS series, which isn't their own.
At any rate, it is pretty weird that RINNE exists and that it was developed by Falcom.
Came from Basement Bros., and that was really great. Videogame history is the best.
This is so fascinating, I always though Im deep in the rabbit hole but nope, there is always something else deeper, amazing video
Incredible work. There's few areas of gaming i am completely unaware of, but you've managed to find it.
Wow this is way more information about Japanese typing software than I ever thought I would learn anywhere! Also, thanks for the shoutout... though I feel I probably wasn't quite enough help to warrant it. :)
First time I have ever found a youtube channel talking about Typing Fighter II.
It's a shame it's so weirdly...bad. Given that Higo was *right there and consistently making stuff*, imagine if he had a crack at it instead of Apcom.
All of your videos are amazing
Interesting video as usual.
Thank you for exploring such unique topics and games in ways only you are to, you are a true gem and I feel so lucky to have found you and can only hope that others are able to find you as well.
Until I saw 8:26, if someone had asked me to make up a typing tutor with a stereotypically-Japanese name, 'Nyan-Nyan Type Commander' is almost certainly what I would have come up with.
Sadly, Nyan Nyan Type Commander had some weird coding and I couldn't get it to work, but I imagine the cat pops up on each keystroke. Knowing these type-in games, there may be a Nyan Nyan series lol
Love your videos!
Fascinating stuff. Thanks for the insight.
Amazing video. Definitely going t9 binge all your videos. Please keep making more!
Thanks! The next one is almost done but some complications due to jaw injury necessitated travel and have impaired my speaking voice. Hopefully within the next week or so :)
@@f_t_b2238 I hope you have a speedy recovery and look forward to your new video :)
Can't get enough of your videos. So well researched & presented and a great cozy voiceover.
I've been into vidja for about 30 years now so when it comes to obscure video games I thought I'm pretty deep. However so far there haven't been a single video of yours where I haven't learned something new.
Entertaining, educational and comfy vid as always, keep up the great work.
Nice
Who knew the typing genre was this huge?
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There’s a part of me that wants to dive into it, but what else can be done?
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Overall, another amazing video.
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I even missed a bunch lol / couldn't use them for copyright reasons / other folks covered them in such a way I couldn't add much. Puyo Puyo has a typing game, Godzilla has one but I couldn't find it on auction / im pretty sure Toho would not like if i used , and I skipped initial D due to prior more famous coverages.
There's actually a seller on Buyee that sells them, that's how I found the Lupin one, so I'll link that seller when I can.
Some of the licensed ones are pulled from demos from DOS/V magazine. i did wayback SSI Tristar's website but available old files are spotty.
How long you've been learning Japanese? You seem to have a profound understanding of the language, dealing with highly ideomatic texts with ease and being able to see allusion or innuendoes that most would miss.
It's self-taught and spotty, and comes from growing up with friends deeply fluent and being in a college that had no TOEFL requirement, so that's why it's peaks and valleys. So I'll know something culturally complex and then bungle an ascending/ descending pronunciation lol
That Evangelion one looks, ummmm... Interesting....
Some years ago a friend of mine worked in a prototype for a typing based rpg in college. It was a very simple and short demo but I always found it very fun, so maybe I should check out some of these someday.
There's a good vid on it I'll link when I find it, that goes over all the minigames in detail. I just found the EoE scene in a typing game to be funny, but to be fair Asuka vs the mass produced EVAs shows up in a lot of stuff.
Kumdor is a legit great rpg, it just has a *nasty* spike at the end
Here you go, much deeper dive than my quick joke
ruclips.net/video/B4LlccT4IF0/видео.htmlsi=VsRrrq9Xlt-FWI26
@@f_t_b2238 Hah, thank you for taking the time to send this! I always found NGE tie-in videogames to be extremely interesting regardless of my feelings for source material, even within (and beyond!) the expected typing and dating sims they seemed to have carte blanche to do whatever they wanted, which is something that could make licensed videogames shine if they were allowed to do more often, rather than just bland fighting games and (nowadays) gacha purgatory. Even the NGE fighting game got weird letting you play as nearly all of the abstract angels!
Has anyone ever figured out how to enable 2 players(two keyboards) in the PC port of Typing of the Dead?
This bugs me for years now since i always wanted to play it with my brother.
IIRC the Windows version only supports networked multiplayer so there's no couch co-op with 2 keyboards. The Dreamcast one does though, so maybe emulation would be a logical path there.
@@f_t_b2238 i dont have pc capable of good Dreamcast emulation.
Shame nobody made a hack for the PC version.
Am i going crazy or did you have an Ashguine video essay that you made in the past that's not online anymore. I was actually actively looking for it.
Yes, that video was taken down due to bad crediting and citation, improper music usage, and errors in the content.
I might repair it in the future and generally revise the earliest videos, but I want to make sure I do it correctly.
@@f_t_b2238 That's awesome! I'm genuinely interested to see what you do with it.
nothing beats Initial D typing in my book.
That one almost made it in, specifically the sequel. I do think that one has some amusing moments in that they actually talk about typing as a process as if it making them race faster.
I remember getting the original Beatmania typing game and being disappointed to find that it didn't support any USB keyboards aside from the official Konami one (is this right?). Eventually I found one in a shop and picked it up, only to be even more disappointed by how much the game absolutely sucked.
The folks on the typing blog would 10,000% agree with you. They *absolutely hated it* even though they were way kinder to some of the shovelware ones. I was able to get it to work in a VM but it was unpleasant lol. Thankfully Inis would go on to better things.
SECOND! er- First! Er- Third!
Given the revisions on this video, all three could be true. Hopefully this time it'll stick.
Patreon bonuses will be out shortly as well - moving has caused a bit of chaos in getting stiff ready on schedule