I have the same kind of feelings about the 'magic' of physical film, but for photography (: the anticipation for how it will turn out and the wonderful (or horrific, haha) surprises you get sometimes. Getting those pictures or that footage back just makes you more fond of the memory somehow.
It's very reassuring to see someone around my age genuinely passionate about celluloid and not due to the whole Instagram and Tumblr thing. I've to buy or even shoot on film/super 8 but I've been interested for a while now. Your videos may have just given me the push I needed. Thanks!
With so many people stuck on this idea of 'digital is better' there are some amazing bargains to be had with film-based cameras. They may require more effort in respect of film processing and the like, but they can also be so much more rewarding compared to something where you just point and shoot.
Ray, Thank you for posting these three videos as they have inspired me to broaden my horizons and be a better filmmaker and person. I have recently invested in a Super 8 camera and a super 8 projector and am excited to start some new projects with it. Thank you, Grant
I'm looking at getting one as as a family we watch my grand parents super 8 films, there's just something about it. Thank you for a great and knowledgable video, now going to buy one!
The key to tuning one of these cheaper older Super 8's with the limited 25/100 daylight and 40/160 film options is to first get that Wratten 85 filter removed from inside the camera. It's a cheap plastic disc that is usually covered in dust/mold/etc... Once that internal filter is pulled, you can treat the camera like a 4-speed film camera and then screw a quality wratten 85 filter onto the front lens as needed. (The internal plastic filter disc is usually held on a movable holder with tiny clips. I pried it loose on mine with a small screwdriver and dumped it out.) Here is an example: I'm running a Chinon 722P XL that can be found cheap and plentiful on eBay. It has a single tab sensor in the cartridge bay that switches between 25/40 or 100/160 film speeds, depending on the tab cut-out on the film cartridge. The camera does not have a daylight/bulb switch, but rather relies on mounting a movie light in the 1/4"-20 thread socket on top. This mounting of the movie light in that threaded hole actually presses a pin down that changes the exposure range by 2/3 stop and it also moves the internal daylight filter in and out (of course, no longer now that I took the filter out). Since I don't use a movie light for indoor filming, I simply cut myself a 1/4"-20 threaded bolt to a very short length, about a 1/2" long. When I shoot tungsten film, I screw the little bolt in the top. This adjusts the camera speed range to handle 40 or 160 ASA depending on what the cartridge notch switch detects. If I remove the bolt, then the camera can select between 25 and 100 ASA. The nice thing about the bolt is that when I am not using it, the bolt can be stored in the tripod mount hole, which is also 1/4"-20 thread. Because I removed that plastic internal wratten 85 filter from the camera, it is now possible to use a range of modern Super 8 films AND also install a nice quality glass wratten 85 filter on the lens, as needed. This will improve your filming quality. Luckily, these wratten 85 filters are only a couple dollars on eBay. The Chinon 722P XL uses a 46mm size filter. Here are a few modern Super 8 film configurations you can use in the Chinon 722P XL... - Kodak 200T (200 ASA tungsten film) used for artificial lighting: Screw bolt is installed on top. No Wratten 85 filter. Film speed will be set to 160 for the auto-exposure on the camera. More than close enough for this 200 speed tungsten film. - Kodak 200T (200 ASA tungsten film) used for daylight filming: Screw bolt installed. Wratten 85 filter screwed on lens front. Auto-exposure will be set to 160, but the filter installed on the front will reduce light down 2/3 of a stop, making this film perform more like a 100 speed film. That is more than close enough for this 200T (it's listed as 125 speed when daylight color corrected). Note also that because the external glass wratten filter is screwed to the front, the auto-exposure system in the camera will correct this automatically with no special changes needed. Before this modification was made, the cheap plastic internal wratten filter was after the auto-exposure and lens, thus requiring a 2/3 stop adjustment to the auto-exposure by removing the bolt. - Kodak 50D (50 ASA daylight film) used for daylight filming: Here again, the screw bolt is installed. No Wratten 85 filter needed. Film auto-exposure will be set to 40 ASA. More than close enough for 50 speed daylight film. The description inside the film compartment reads like this: Daylight 25 100 Artificial light 40 160 As you can see, the camera doesn't know anything about daylight and artificial light anymore without that internal plastic wratten 85 filter. It just knows how to shift film speeds based on the sensor tab in the cartridge bay and whether I insert that bolt in the "movie-light" hole on top. With the bolt in, it works with the bottom 40/160 speed range. With the bolt out, it works with the 25/100 speed range. You have to determine whether you need a wratten 85 color correction filter installed on the lens front, and at what speed range to use it with. A side-note: Many of these older cameras may have had leaky batteries in them. Alkaline batteries are an alkaline(base) and not acid like a car battery. You can easily clean out the dry white crusty alkaline paste by using simple white vinegar (it's acetic acid) and some cotton swabs. It's surprising how quickly vinegar melts away the alkaline by neutralizing it. The battery compartment will look like brand new afterwards. Give it a try; you'll be amazed. Finally, check out Pro8mm on Amazon or their own web site. Pro8mm sells a package that includes the Kodak Vision3 film cartridge, film processing via an included mailer envelope, digitizing of the film for downloading to your computer, and returning the developed film on a reel to you for archiving. It's a great package deal and the easiest way to try out Super 8 filming. Hope this helps somebody out there wanting to try Super 8. Steve
This makes me so happy :-) hopefully doing a tv and film production degree next year and super 8 has interested me in such a long time. Can't wait to purchase my own!
Thanks! Very informative. Just found an auto zoom 814 for $8 at an estate sale and I'm very excited to learn how to use it. Unfortunately I'm in the states so I'm sure using Gauge will be crazy expensive shipping wise, but I'm sure I can find a more local company.
Hi I am a long time user of Super 8mm and a big fan found a site called the old film company they can add stripe to those of you who have sound projectors also EVT Magnetics also do this keep the thing alive folks !
1 thing I bumped into though, there are also quite a lot of camera's out there that require mercury cells for the light meter which are not being sold anymore. You can get them to work with adapters for coincells or alkaline replacement batteries but really, it could get quite expensive and may not even work (some camera's dont like alkaline for the light meter). So I'd avoid them.. Learned that the hard way, I came here because I found a Ricoh Super 8 800z in my local thriftstore and wanted to get into super 8 because of that, but now I own a Canon Autozoom 814E which does not require those pesky mercury cells :D
Ray.... YOU ARE GREAT.....NOT AT ALL CRAZY!!! DELIGHTFULLY ENTERTAINING TO WATCH! YOUR INTEREST IN FILM IS EXTRAORDINARY FOR YOUR AGE.... KEEP ENJOYING YOUR FILM INTEREST..... I HAVE AND I AM 63 YEARS OF AGE. Oh, by the way, I am from the U.S.A and what is the dollar conversion for 20 to 40 pounds.??
Thank you for your advice to testing a super 8 because of you I already found a untested super 8 in thrift store and I tested it and it’s run thank you
Hi Ray. You seem to be an expert in Super 8, so I have questions for you, I hope you (or someone) can answer. I just bought a super 8mm camera, the Bell and Howell Director Series Zoomatic, and along with it 2 packages of old unexposed film from eBay. I wasn't sure what type of film to get exactly, and I asked the seller but she didn't know much about it, what I was able to ascertain was that it uses "double 8mm rolls" (is this true?) so that's what I got - I got 1 roll of 100ft, and 3 rolls of 25ft (Kodachrome). The 100ft just arrived today (since eBay is shipping them separately), and I tried to put it in the camera, but the spool won't fit, it's too big. I looked at the film and it seems like it is the type of film the camera accepts, the only problem is the spool is too big. Question 1: I reviewed my eBay orders and checked pictures of the 25ft, and from what I can tell the boxes seem smaller than the 100ft I just got. Is this true? Would the size of the spool depend on the feet of the film? If so, would it mean that the 25ft might fit in the camera? They are not the regular 8's, that's for sure - cause I know they don't have sound. Question 2: If ever the spools of the films really won't fit the camera, can I still use the film? Re-spool it, maybe? If I could find a spool that will fit, if not, is there some way I can still use them? I would really hate it if I can't use these films, as, even though they weren't that expensive, international shipping from eBay cost a lot. And I mean *A LOT* (way more than the price of the item itself). Plus I will be using them for my (experimental) thesis film, by the end of this month hopefully. Thanks to you or to anyone who can answer my questions (and forgive my ignorance, but this is the first time I'm touching film - my major is in *digital* film), it's hard to find solid answers from google. EDIT: I've done some more researching and found out that this cam might not be a super 8, but in fact a standard 8mm. I have found also that there is film available on B&H - it is labeled as "double standard 8mm" - I am guessing, this is the type of film the camera accepts, but can anyone corroborate, just to be sure?
How does one choose to go about editing their final project. Can one feed it into a computer? Or are you strapped to the confines of manual editing on a machine? It'd be helpful if you could expound a bit on the marriage of the digital process in regards to the post-prodution of an 8mm film project.
One big thing to check whether the film stock the camera uses is still in production and being developed. For example a lot of cameras used Kodachrome 40 and nowhere processes it anymore.
I like your videos dude. Recently I buy a Bell and Hower Super 8 Soundstar 4. With all the accesories and the instructions book. Completly funcional and beautiful and cost me only 50 dolars! Can you believe that!!
To alchicago123 sound film is no longer available for sound cameras but you can have your silent films striped for sound edge and balance in the old days armature film makers would use sync units to keep tape in step with the projector some devised DIY cardboard strobe methods old cine books and movie maker magazines are a good place to look hope this helps !
i purchased a "Yashica Super 8 10" in a second hand store. for about 2£, it's condition was unknown. Looks good though and the motor and mechanism works flawlessly. However, it looks like there's a built in filter glass that's missing from it holder.
Hey man, watching this has inspired me to go out and buy myself a super 8 camera just to goof around with.. Although I don't want to spend too much money on the projector and stuff so is there a few cheap but still fairly decent projectors out there I can aim to look at Thanks!
what is the resolution of the film after you have it digitized? My soul purpose of buying a super 8 is because i want to make movies and share them online. If you think there is a better camera out there id love to hear it. I just knew that Super 8 is a cheap camera still used today and still looks good. Has a look to it that says a lot with very little words
Fubizz12345 I also have the new Galaxy S6 and its camera works pretty dam well. Only problem is stability. Shaky cam and equipment to isolate it can cost more that a Super 8
do you know of any cheap places for digitizing it in america? i emailed gauge and they told me to try 8mmpro, but it's like 90$ which is way too much for me.
Hi, a few years late, but question about lens focus-- I have a truly vintage Bauer C2m that appears to focus sharply only at short depth of field. No matter which direction I turn the focus lens all objects appear blurry that are beyond 1 meter away. I don't suppose this is due to the lens it came with (1:1,8/8-40)? There is simply nonexistent information about this model of camera on the internet + I'm a beginner so struggling a bit. Any advice would be appreciated!
I just got a minolta autopack d10 it works I was so excite what do you suggest going about to film for me Like what kind of film Or what processing ideas Or how could I see my footage Just please reply thanks
I'm now the new owner of one of the Bell & Howell 1225 filmsonic, recently acquired from a colleague for free. My question is, does anyone know whether this particular camera is suitable for Kodak Super 8 film stocks? I cant find much information on this camera so if someone could help, that'd be great!
I just found a Canon E440 selling for $50 with carrying case so is it worth going for? And where to buy 8 mm cassette for it? I just looked around Canon website and they say this thing used to cost 225,000 yen with accessories holy crap!
You suggest finding a camera that supports 24fps, what about 18-20fps? I've a perfectly working Chinon 255xl, however it auto senses the film, with no manual control over the shutter speed. The last time I used it in 2008, the results were ok, albeit under exposed when shooting indoors. Are there any films out that might work better?
I have a Canon 814 autozoom that worked then the light meter battery's died and i took them out but now when I put AA batteries in the camera won't run anymore what's the problem is it because of the other battery's not being there
Hello dude i was wondering if you could help me out on where to find a good deal on a super 8 camera i was looking to spend 45 pounds or something like that but im not that big of an expert on these and im quite lost on what model and where to look for like ive looked for the canno 1014 and 814 but the 1014 has a huge price and 814 i cant really find
Do the cameras automatically set themselves to the correct ASA/ISO speed? I was researching the link you posted about the Braun Nizo 156 and it stated that it reads 25/40T and 100/160T cartridges. Does this mean it will not correctly expose modern films such as the Vision3 200T? I do not have experience with Super 8 (yet) so I apologize if my question is an easy one.
Yes most super 8 cameras either have pins or a slide (like the nizo) that automatically detect the Asa of the film. This is because there are notches on the cartridges. If you set the nizo to tungsten with Kodak vision3 200T in, you will get a correct exposure of 160 asa. Negative super 8 films like a little bit of overexposure so 160asa will be perfect. However, there are some super 8 cameras that have a manual asa setting option. Like the Beaulieu 4008. Those are usually a lot more pricey than a Nizo though.
Also, because of the tungsten setting on the camera disables the internal 85B daylight filter, if you want to shoot v3 200T outdoors you have to buy a 85B filter to screw on to the lens of the camera. Otherwise you will get a very very blue picture because of the Tungsten film was made for tungsten lighting.
+Christopher Lee thanks for your reply. so if I use agfachrome 200D, I should be able to just leave it at tungsten (disabling the filter), since the film is already daylight balanced, and still get the correct exposure? is that correct?
Brandon Ly For reversal its best to get the asa spot on or even a little underexposure. But with the Agfa 200D i believe it has around 3 stops of latitude so ideally 160asa should be okay. Maybe use an ND filter when filming in bright sunlight. You should check out cinematography.com, its a great forum with many professionals and people with a lot more knowledge on super 8 than me that are willing to help beginners out. It's where i get most of my knowledge and info.
Ray from what I see on your youtube video regarding super 8 camera's, I see blur, fog and horrible color coming from the Super 8 camera that you are exposing here. Who would want to purchase and make a film with this camera when one has to view on a screen and jump thru hell and high water to post anywhere else? I'm baffled. A simple phone camera will do same or more in this day in age.
RayRay! just wondering, i'd like a super 8 camera or standard, how long does one film/catridge record for? do i NEED to get a projector, are these things easy to use? thanks for the vids. Great job!
Much like cocaine, you got me so excited about super 8, my balls shriveled up!(or it may have been all the coffee I drank) Can't wait to get my hands on one of these bad boys. Thanks for making these videos.
I did a little bit of research and the Canon 518 only shoots at 18 fps while the Canon 814 can shoot at 12, 18, or 24 fps. I hope this helps although I dont think that this is still relevant as of 10 months ago lol
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It's great to see that motion film is still alive and people still use it.
omg you dont understand how much this super 8 series helped ive been looking at them on ebay for ages but never actually had a clue - but now i do !
I have the same kind of feelings about the 'magic' of physical film, but for photography (: the anticipation for how it will turn out and the wonderful (or horrific, haha) surprises you get sometimes. Getting those pictures or that footage back just makes you more fond of the memory somehow.
dude i have to say congratulations for your knowledge at this age and for the passion you have..keep the great job you are doing.
It's very reassuring to see someone around my age genuinely passionate about celluloid and not due to the whole Instagram and Tumblr thing.
I've to buy or even shoot on film/super 8 but I've been interested for a while now. Your videos may have just given me the push I needed. Thanks!
With so many people stuck on this idea of 'digital is better' there are some amazing bargains to be had with film-based cameras.
They may require more effort in respect of film processing and the like, but they can also be so much more rewarding compared to something where you just point and shoot.
You get an instant like for that big lebowski poster. Well done Ray. You have exceeded my expectations.
A clear, uncontrived and informative series. Well done boyo!
Ray,
Thank you for posting these three videos as they have inspired me to broaden my horizons and be a better filmmaker and person. I have recently invested in a Super 8 camera and a super 8 projector and am excited to start some new projects with it.
Thank you,
Grant
I'm looking at getting one as as a family we watch my grand parents super 8 films, there's just something about it. Thank you for a great and knowledgable video, now going to buy one!
Ray you are absolutely delightful to watch in these videos!!! Keep producing these videos ((( YOUR GREAT!! )))
The key to tuning one of these cheaper older Super 8's with the limited 25/100 daylight and 40/160 film options is to first get that Wratten 85 filter removed from inside the camera. It's a cheap plastic disc that is usually covered in dust/mold/etc... Once that internal filter is pulled, you can treat the camera like a 4-speed film camera and then screw a quality wratten 85 filter onto the front lens as needed. (The internal plastic filter disc is usually held on a movable holder with tiny clips. I pried it loose on mine with a small screwdriver and dumped it out.)
Here is an example: I'm running a Chinon 722P XL that can be found cheap and plentiful on eBay. It has a single tab sensor in the cartridge bay that switches between 25/40 or 100/160 film speeds, depending on the tab cut-out on the film cartridge. The camera does not have a daylight/bulb switch, but rather relies on mounting a movie light in the 1/4"-20 thread socket on top. This mounting of the movie light in that threaded hole actually presses a pin down that changes the exposure range by 2/3 stop and it also moves the internal daylight filter in and out (of course, no longer now that I took the filter out). Since I don't use a movie light for indoor filming, I simply cut myself a 1/4"-20 threaded bolt to a very short length, about a 1/2" long. When I shoot tungsten film, I screw the little bolt in the top. This adjusts the camera speed range to handle 40 or 160 ASA depending on what the cartridge notch switch detects. If I remove the bolt, then the camera can select between 25 and 100 ASA. The nice thing about the bolt is that when I am not using it, the bolt can be stored in the tripod mount hole, which is also 1/4"-20 thread.
Because I removed that plastic internal wratten 85 filter from the camera, it is now possible to use a range of modern Super 8 films AND also install a nice quality glass wratten 85 filter on the lens, as needed. This will improve your filming quality. Luckily, these wratten 85 filters are only a couple dollars on eBay. The Chinon 722P XL uses a 46mm size filter.
Here are a few modern Super 8 film configurations you can use in the Chinon 722P XL...
- Kodak 200T (200 ASA tungsten film) used for artificial lighting: Screw bolt is installed on top. No Wratten 85 filter. Film speed will be set to 160 for the auto-exposure on the camera. More than close enough for this 200 speed tungsten film.
- Kodak 200T (200 ASA tungsten film) used for daylight filming: Screw bolt installed. Wratten 85 filter screwed on lens front. Auto-exposure will be set to 160, but the filter installed on the front will reduce light down 2/3 of a stop, making this film perform more like a 100 speed film. That is more than close enough for this 200T (it's listed as 125 speed when daylight color corrected). Note also that because the external glass wratten filter is screwed to the front, the auto-exposure system in the camera will correct this automatically with no special changes needed. Before this modification was made, the cheap plastic internal wratten filter was after the auto-exposure and lens, thus requiring a 2/3 stop adjustment to the auto-exposure by removing the bolt.
- Kodak 50D (50 ASA daylight film) used for daylight filming: Here again, the screw bolt is installed. No Wratten 85 filter needed. Film auto-exposure will be set to 40 ASA. More than close enough for 50 speed daylight film.
The description inside the film compartment reads like this:
Daylight 25 100
Artificial light 40 160
As you can see, the camera doesn't know anything about daylight and artificial light anymore without that internal plastic wratten 85 filter. It just knows how to shift film speeds based on the sensor tab in the cartridge bay and whether I insert that bolt in the "movie-light" hole on top. With the bolt in, it works with the bottom 40/160 speed range. With the bolt out, it works with the 25/100 speed range. You have to determine whether you need a wratten 85 color correction filter installed on the lens front, and at what speed range to use it with.
A side-note: Many of these older cameras may have had leaky batteries in them. Alkaline batteries are an alkaline(base) and not acid like a car battery. You can easily clean out the dry white crusty alkaline paste by using simple white vinegar (it's acetic acid) and some cotton swabs. It's surprising how quickly vinegar melts away the alkaline by neutralizing it. The battery compartment will look like brand new afterwards. Give it a try; you'll be amazed.
Finally, check out Pro8mm on Amazon or their own web site. Pro8mm sells a package that includes the Kodak Vision3 film cartridge, film processing via an included mailer envelope, digitizing of the film for downloading to your computer, and returning the developed film on a reel to you for archiving. It's a great package deal and the easiest way to try out Super 8 filming.
Hope this helps somebody out there wanting to try Super 8.
Steve
Also in the Canon AUTO ZOOM1014 ELETRONIC model and the 1014 XL-S ELETRONIC model can you remove the filter to get cleaner images?
Keep on spreading this so well! Waiting for new videos. Congratulations
This makes me so happy :-) hopefully doing a tv and film production degree next year and super 8 has interested me in such a long time. Can't wait to purchase my own!
Kayleigh Platt how did it go I want to do that at uni too
Well, you've just inspired me to buy a Super 8 film recorder and make my home movies on it from now on! This will be fun. Thanks! Subbed.
Thanks! Very informative. Just found an auto zoom 814 for $8 at an estate sale and I'm very excited to learn how to use it. Unfortunately I'm in the states so I'm sure using Gauge will be crazy expensive shipping wise, but I'm sure I can find a more local company.
Hi I am a long time user of Super 8mm and a big fan found a site called the old film company they can add stripe to those of you who have sound projectors also EVT Magnetics also do this keep the thing alive folks !
1 thing I bumped into though, there are also quite a lot of camera's out there that require mercury cells for the light meter which are not being sold anymore. You can get them to work with adapters for coincells or alkaline replacement batteries but really, it could get quite expensive and may not even work (some camera's dont like alkaline for the light meter). So I'd avoid them..
Learned that the hard way, I came here because I found a Ricoh Super 8 800z in my local thriftstore and wanted to get into super 8 because of that, but now I own a Canon Autozoom 814E which does not require those pesky mercury cells :D
Gotta love that la dolce vita poster...favourite Fellini picture of me
Ray.... YOU ARE GREAT.....NOT AT ALL CRAZY!!! DELIGHTFULLY ENTERTAINING TO WATCH! YOUR INTEREST IN FILM IS EXTRAORDINARY FOR YOUR AGE.... KEEP ENJOYING YOUR FILM INTEREST..... I HAVE AND I AM 63 YEARS OF AGE. Oh, by the way, I am from the U.S.A and what is the dollar conversion for 20 to 40 pounds.??
Great video. I just recently purchased one of these bad boys.
Thank you for your advice to testing a super 8 because of you I already found a untested super 8 in thrift store and I tested it and it’s run thank you
hey Im new to rolling film and I really enjoyed this video, Im definitely going to use guage film
well done mate, very informative
Great video, Ray. Really interesting and specific. Cool posters, btw ;)
Hi Ray. You seem to be an expert in Super 8, so I have questions for you, I hope you (or someone) can answer. I just bought a super 8mm camera, the Bell and Howell Director Series Zoomatic, and along with it 2 packages of old unexposed film from eBay. I wasn't sure what type of film to get exactly, and I asked the seller but she didn't know much about it, what I was able to ascertain was that it uses "double 8mm rolls" (is this true?) so that's what I got - I got 1 roll of 100ft, and 3 rolls of 25ft (Kodachrome).
The 100ft just arrived today (since eBay is shipping them separately), and I tried to put it in the camera, but the spool won't fit, it's too big. I looked at the film and it seems like it is the type of film the camera accepts, the only problem is the spool is too big.
Question 1: I reviewed my eBay orders and checked pictures of the 25ft, and from what I can tell the boxes seem smaller than the 100ft I just got. Is this true? Would the size of the spool depend on the feet of the film? If so, would it mean that the 25ft might fit in the camera? They are not the regular 8's, that's for sure - cause I know they don't have sound.
Question 2: If ever the spools of the films really won't fit the camera, can I still use the film? Re-spool it, maybe? If I could find a spool that will fit, if not, is there some way I can still use them?
I would really hate it if I can't use these films, as, even though they weren't that expensive, international shipping from eBay cost a lot. And I mean *A LOT* (way more than the price of the item itself). Plus I will be using them for my (experimental) thesis film, by the end of this month hopefully.
Thanks to you or to anyone who can answer my questions (and forgive my ignorance, but this is the first time I'm touching film - my major is in *digital* film), it's hard to find solid answers from google.
EDIT: I've done some more researching and found out that this cam might not be a super 8, but in fact a standard 8mm. I have found also that there is film available on B&H - it is labeled as "double standard 8mm" - I am guessing, this is the type of film the camera accepts, but can anyone corroborate, just to be sure?
Love the poster of Big Lebowski ^^
Great video man! Subscribed.
How does one choose to go about editing their final project. Can one feed it into a computer? Or are you strapped to the confines of manual editing on a machine? It'd be helpful if you could expound a bit on the marriage of the digital process in regards to the post-prodution of an 8mm film project.
One big thing to check whether the film stock the camera uses is still in production and being developed. For example a lot of cameras used Kodachrome 40 and nowhere processes it anymore.
I like your videos dude. Recently I buy a Bell and Hower Super 8 Soundstar 4. With all the accesories and the instructions book. Completly funcional and beautiful and cost me only 50 dolars! Can you believe that!!
Ps: regards from Colombia!
This was so awesome, thank you
can't wait to see your paris video in super 8 :)
To alchicago123 sound film is no longer available for sound cameras but you can have your silent films striped for sound edge and balance in the old days armature film makers would use sync units to keep tape in step with the projector some devised DIY cardboard strobe methods old cine books and movie maker magazines are a good place to look hope this helps !
thank you ray, good job!
Thanks dude this was handy!
Great video! Thanks for all the info! Feeling inspired! :)
Can you make a tutorial on editing film and how to come across a splicer? Thanks.
By the way, nice wall.
i purchased a "Yashica Super 8 10" in a second hand store. for about 2£, it's condition was unknown. Looks good though and the motor and mechanism works flawlessly. However, it looks like there's a built in filter glass that's missing from it holder.
It's such a same Kodak got rid of ektachrome 100d. I'm going to shoot my last roll next weekend! :(
I bought the same camera as you but when I put the batteries in, nothing happens. Any suggestions and any places that can look/fix them?
I think I just found my new favourite youtuber...
find these videos really interesting :) you planning on uploading any videos you have shot in super 8?
"I can't help you, you're silly" I've wanted to say this to people every day of my life.
I think it's still one of my greatest lines
Hey man, watching this has inspired me to go out and buy myself a super 8 camera just to goof around with.. Although I don't want to spend too much money on the projector and stuff so is there a few cheap but still fairly decent projectors out there I can aim to look at
Thanks!
Still haven't found a decent on, I'm gonna half to settle for my 97' Fisher camcorder. Wish I knew a sight with tested cams
what is the resolution of the film after you have it digitized? My soul purpose of buying a super 8 is because i want to make movies and share them online. If you think there is a better camera out there id love to hear it. I just knew that Super 8 is a cheap camera still used today and still looks good. Has a look to it that says a lot with very little words
Fubizz12345 I also have the new Galaxy S6 and its camera works pretty dam well. Only problem is stability. Shaky cam and equipment to isolate it can cost more that a Super 8
I have the Canon autozoom 1014 electronic!
It works but I camt find film, and do you know how much it costs?
do you know of any cheap places for digitizing it in america? i emailed gauge and they told me to try 8mmpro, but it's like 90$ which is way too much for me.
Hi, a few years late, but question about lens focus-- I have a truly vintage Bauer C2m that appears to focus sharply only at short depth of field. No matter which direction I turn the focus lens all objects appear blurry that are beyond 1 meter away. I don't suppose this is due to the lens it came with (1:1,8/8-40)? There is simply nonexistent information about this model of camera on the internet + I'm a beginner so struggling a bit. Any advice would be appreciated!
I got a Canon 310 XL on eBay for about $150, but you said between 20 and 40 pounds. Now I feel kind of ripped off...
Artexerxes101 this was 4 years ago, the film craze bumped the prices up
So for every 3 minute cartridge, you have to pay £12 for the processing, then a further £12 for Telecine?
You bet! Film is expensive, but its well worth it.
I just got a minolta autopack d10 it works I was so excite what do you suggest going about to film for me
Like what kind of film
Or what processing ideas
Or how could I see my footage
Just please reply thanks
how much run time would you expect this one thing of film you can get from gauge film?
I'm now the new owner of one of the Bell & Howell 1225 filmsonic, recently acquired from a colleague for free. My question is, does anyone know whether this particular camera is suitable for Kodak Super 8 film stocks? I cant find much information on this camera so if someone could help, that'd be great!
I just found a Canon E440 selling for $50 with carrying case so is it worth going for?
And where to buy 8 mm cassette for it?
I just looked around Canon website and they say this thing used to cost 225,000 yen with accessories holy crap!
You suggest finding a camera that supports 24fps, what about 18-20fps? I've a perfectly working Chinon 255xl, however it auto senses the film, with no manual control over the shutter speed. The last time I used it in 2008, the results were ok, albeit under exposed when shooting indoors. Are there any films out that might work better?
i bought a canon 310 xl Ray but where i can find some pellicule ? because if i understand on gaugefilm it's like just processing
Dope video thanks bro!
I have a Canon 814 autozoom that worked then the light meter battery's died and i took them out but now when I put AA batteries in the camera won't run anymore what's the problem is it because of the other battery's not being there
Colton McGinnis i think the light meter on that model works with a little battery like a clock battery
does anybody know; what is the difference between the canon 518 and the canon 518 SV
do i need a super 8mm sound cartridge in order to have a sound ? i am a beginner here and i need some information . thank you
Excuse me i was wondering what to look for when buying super 8 film cartridges
Hello dude i was wondering if you could help me out on where to find a good deal on a super 8 camera i was looking to spend 45 pounds or something like that but im not that big of an expert on these and im quite lost on what model and where to look for like ive looked for the canno 1014 and 814 but the 1014 has a huge price and 814 i cant really find
ijust buy mine
are you familiar at all with the yashica su 40 e?
Do the cameras automatically set themselves to the correct ASA/ISO speed? I was researching the link you posted about the Braun Nizo 156 and it stated that it reads 25/40T and 100/160T cartridges. Does this mean it will not correctly expose modern films such as the Vision3 200T? I do not have experience with Super 8 (yet) so I apologize if my question is an easy one.
Yes most super 8 cameras either have pins or a slide (like the nizo) that automatically detect the Asa of the film. This is because there are notches on the cartridges. If you set the nizo to tungsten with Kodak vision3 200T in, you will get a correct exposure of 160 asa. Negative super 8 films like a little bit of overexposure so 160asa will be perfect. However, there are some super 8 cameras that have a manual asa setting option. Like the Beaulieu 4008. Those are usually a lot more pricey than a Nizo though.
Also, because of the tungsten setting on the camera disables the internal 85B daylight filter, if you want to shoot v3 200T outdoors you have to buy a 85B filter to screw on to the lens of the camera. Otherwise you will get a very very blue picture because of the Tungsten film was made for tungsten lighting.
+Christopher Lee thanks for your reply. so if I use agfachrome 200D, I should be able to just leave it at tungsten (disabling the filter), since the film is already daylight balanced, and still get the correct exposure? is that correct?
Brandon Ly For reversal its best to get the asa spot on or even a little underexposure. But with the Agfa 200D i believe it has around 3 stops of latitude so ideally 160asa should be okay. Maybe use an ND filter when filming in bright sunlight. You should check out cinematography.com, its a great forum with many professionals and people with a lot more knowledge on super 8 than me that are willing to help beginners out. It's where i get most of my knowledge and info.
Nice video. I got a bit confused while watching, because you sound a lot like Bing (slomovozo)
can you just scan the super 8 footage into Digital format and edit it digitally?
Ray from what I see on your youtube video regarding super 8 camera's, I see blur, fog and horrible color coming from the Super 8 camera that you are exposing here. Who would want to purchase and make a film with this camera when one has to view on a screen and jump thru hell and high water to post anywhere else? I'm baffled. A simple phone camera will do same or more in this day in age.
Do super 8 cameras work with tripods?
do super8 record the audio?
RayRay! just wondering, i'd like a super 8 camera or standard, how long does one film/catridge record for? do i NEED to get a projector, are these things easy to use? thanks for the vids. Great job!
where do you get super 8 developed these days? (UK based) thanks
many thanks
where did you get the skateboarding footage ?
Do you know a US alternative to Gauge Film Store?
I have a Bell and Howell Super Eight Perpetua Auto-Load Operonic model 311 and i cant tell if it works or not. Could you help me in any way at all?
So how much footage would you get from a standard reel?
Much like cocaine, you got me so excited about super 8, my balls shriveled up!(or it may have been all the coffee I drank) Can't wait to get my hands on one of these bad boys. Thanks for making these videos.
Cool vid
You live in Paris?
is the highest frame rate for super 8 18 or 24? I just bought a Canon 310 xl
i would defer to any answer Ray gives, but I've seen other super 8 cameras with FPS rates as high as 54 for slow motion.
thx!
What do you think about canon 312xl-s?
does guage film not exist anymore :(
Quarz 2M is a good one?
..very cool Boy !...
I don't want anyone to find you or this channel... Or this video.
What's the difference between the Canon 518 and the 814?
Sick
I did a little bit of research and the Canon 518 only shoots at 18 fps while the Canon 814 can shoot at 12, 18, or 24 fps. I hope this helps although I dont think that this is still relevant as of 10 months ago lol
Wrong.. the 518 SV can also shoot at 18-24fps.
awesome :)
ray you are adorable and i love you
i'm filming super 8 stuff this summer! romantic ones. ooooo
How do you scan them
+lapigo10 Check my response out above in the comments.
song name??
background music is a little bit distracting
Any americans have any suggestion for film process and digitizing
5:51.... Ouch
I got my Eumig Mark 502D for £39.
Ok
I thought the same
What is your favorite 8mm camera?
the only thing turning me off is the quality of the film clips that you used, those film clips looked horrible
I'd bought a protector a few years back and its just sadly broke, i guess it couldn't stand the widths of time
Alternatively just buy a working one and start filming. For the money you can afford a collection.
+Ja Kooistra Also, a bunch of guys in my school started their own developement line I think. They even got a little outdoor garden cinema going.