Yeah Mario and pokemon are more popular, Fire Emblem didn't really grow super heavy until Smash Bros Melee showing off Marth and Roy. Which opened up fire emblem to a wider audience. Fire Emblem Awakening saved the studio from shutting down.
@@Ryzeer2 Really? Most Fire emblem fans hated Corrin, but liked Byleth. Byleth being a silent protagonist made sure they couldn't repeat the mistakes they made with Corrin. People just didn't want him taking last spot in the smash dlc. Me personally, I'm fine with Byleth.
Mario characthers should be that represented because it's the name of the game Also pokemon have VASTLY DIFFERENT movesets and TYPES Think about that Also FE is shit
Really feel bad for the peeps who actually wanted Byleth. Seeing all the negativity on Twitter must really bum them out...There ARE people who wanted Byleth in Smash guys. Let them enjoy it. Also did you just say Raid Shadow Legends? We lost another one. Damn..
As someone who really wanted Byleth, I pretty much expected it. I just decided to have fun with it and meme on Twitter (yes that also includes the annoying Hoes Mad thing. I didn’t care. I wanted to enjoy myself on Twitter to block out all the negativity.)
@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE you got the character, what are you sad about dude? It's fine if you like a character, but obviously some people don't want a character from a well-supported franchise. Don't let other people's opinions on characters in a video game bring you down.
I actually thought everyone was mad at corrin. *Not even* the Fire Emblem community likes Corrin. Fates was easily the worst fe game ever, and that's in no small part thanks to Corrin's nonexistent personality, even compared to other FE avatar characters.
Dedue to ashe in their support convo: "careful, or you will oversalt it" super hyped for them though!!! Fire emblem has such a long history, just dont forget that :3
Most people: WHO WANTED THIS ANIME WEEB HEADASS CHARACTER? Me: *raises hand slowly in corner* I understand why people are upset and it’s justified. I just like 3H’s lol. If they changed the order the characters were released for the Fighter’s Pass there wouldn’t be anywhere near as much backlash tbh.
4:20 just about everyone hated corrin when he got his trailer, it was just a 30% lighter version of what happened with byleth because bayonetta showed up later.
Was abouta say. I remember people disliking Corrin. And for a fair point. Corrin is LAME as hell. Even Byleth is a little bit cooler just because they aren't a complete bitch in their game.
@@MickeyYeahbaby No one knew how lame Corrin was in his game since the game wasn't out. And most people were made until the gameplay part where most switched from "fuck that" to "they look fun".
With all this Byleth “controversy” this man had to pull up with classic Raid shadow legends ad when most people are already at their breaking point 😂😂 get your bag sir!!!
@Trex 2402 Maximillian, top Twitch streamer who is well recognized in the FGC but not a smasher but likes the game casually didnt like the reveal, but I guess that makes him toxic for not agreeing immediately to everything Nintendo releases.
IDK what people expected especially after they big up Fire Emblem 3 houses This isn't going to be some NRS situation where you get some wild ass guest characters.
@Trex 2402 Yo, can we talk about this real quick? Why do you do this? Why not let others express their disappointment (as long as they do so in a healthy manner) if they feel that way, instead of labeling them as "toxic" for not aligning with your opinion? It's just _words._ Won't kill anyone if I say "Man, I really don't like Byleth".
am i the only one that wanted byleth or edelgard to get into smash just so that the three house's godlike music can get into the game? *rip god shattering star*
All three leaders as echo fighters with Bylad and Bylass would have been neat.. but nope. Still I'm actually pretty glad Byleth was included all the same.
People....Having ONLY one of the Three Houses leaders will be unfair. Imagine if instead of Corrin, they added Azura ffs (actually bad example, a dancer will be a nice addition, I meant Takumi).
sakurai: we heard about the complaints about fire emblem/sword characters. So we decided to add hector but instead of his trademark axe we decided to give him his sword.
Don't worry, in the next smash when the same thing happens again Byleth will be in Corrin place and he will be "Why is Byleth there? People weren't mad when he came in smash"
Emmanuel Mondesir Oh really? Here I heard that Awakening, Fates and especially Three Houses were successful. Awakening and 3H getting more popular because of Smash but selling well before their Main Characters were in Smash. Either way though the series also has a long history too so the inclusion isn't unfounded.
@@shadedhydra6674 They are the most successful in the serie but the serie itself isnt really one of Nintendo top seller. Again as a whole, its still under Splatoon 1+2. Just like Earthbound(a game that I love) its a serie that was included in Smash more for promotion than based on actual sales.
@@emmanuelmondesir1314 Dude Splatoon 1 and 2 both sold like absolute crazy. The only thing other than Splatoon that has outsold FE3H is Mario games and Zelda. Its sold way more than Dragon Quest 11.
This post reeks of American bias. Fire emblem is a pretty big series overall in Japan. Like Fe3 was a major seller back in the snes days and remained so till 9-12 which were plagued by by release dates and marketing. Series is over 30 years old with 17 entries and pretty much one of the forerunners of SRPGs. Like serious after Zelda, Pokemon and Mario Fire emblem is overall one of the biggest impacting Nintendo series in Japan
@@kai_824 ah yes, my favorite character, marth with links neutral special, hatchet man, ssf2 luffy's up special, and one move that uses a spear...so original. Your pfp makes your opinion invalid.
Wait a minute this man said Hero recently came out... In Smash sure but over in Japan anything you can say for Link you can probably say for the beloved DQ protagonists.
That was a weak way to excuse Link, because DQ is way older than Link and like you said it's beloved and even a tradition in Japan. The excuse he used applies more to Hero than Link.
@@MichaelLawrence-dv3dn Yeah you're right, I found out about that later on, but that still doesn't defeat the point that the Hero is a classic character, and that the DQ series is more popular in Japan. Plus still, same year.
Lol you said "who didn't like corrin". The reaction was literally the same thing as it is now. Everyone not a fire emblem fan got mad and complained they wasted a slot. History repeats itself.
@@theyellowflash26 Fate's story was written by an outside writer that had no experience with games, but the problem is that Intelligent Systems didn't have enough writers for three campaigns.
There's a touching story about Blyeth the dog, the siblings who adopted dog is Edelgard, Dimitri and Claude.. The dog have most of it's fun with siblings and ended up pregnant with two of it's child during her lifetime. It called Rhea and Lady Sothis... Cute little puppys with bright future waiting them both. And they happily grown up with Blyeth for 2 years. But Both of them have been taken away by siblings because the crest inside Blyeth potentially killing them slowly as the their furs turn into light green. They left her at usual place never came back. Blyeth waiting them, Waiting and waiting till she's collapse from exhaustion.. The Siblings came back after 2 years later and see Blyeth still alive but barely.. they all cried how miserable she's become.. The dog lick theirs face happily and died shortly after that.. Then, The old man Sakurai said that Blyeth have went to the better place.. one thing the siblings feel so wrong is actually..... Who the fuck is this guy?! Old Man: *MAY THE SALT COMPELLING YOU WHORES!!* Tearing his face off revealing a Dog skeleton with Smash emblem eyes. Haters: *AHHHHHHHHHHRRRGGHHH!!* *Kick and yeet the radio at 2 A.M*
Love how you can just shit on hero for being "way newer than link" when dragon quest was like the first jrpg ever and came out the same generation as legend of zelda. We grew up with the heroes of DQ and developed a personality for them to fall into just as link. Infact, i felt way more atachmemt to hero then i ever felt for link.
You don't understand how significant it is for the FE community that Byleth is coming to Smash. For the longest time the FE community has been divided amongst itself hating on each other over noth fates and awakening for alot of various reasons that that we'll just label "Conservative old school fans" and "liberal newcomers"(yes i know these labels sound very political that is because the divide really felt that way). Three houses was the game that brought the community together much like how awakening saved the franchise financially. So when you saw that meme of Corrin getting hated on for being in smash it wasn't *entirely* from of the smash community more so than it was a character choice hated by FE fans for putting in fates.
" Link was introduce when we were kids" But so is Hero. Only different is that he's more japan inclusive. I respect your point of view keef, but please don't say misinforming things like this
well technically, that would mean Marth too, he means Link has stuck with us Hero was revealed as Eleven, they are all technically different incarnations and thus your point is very invalid, when was the last time you saw the same exact Hero and in how many titles how many times did you see the name Link associated with a green tunic, a sword with a blue hilt, and three triangles technically, Link has stayed consistent and thus we are attached to him in the same way with every outing Hero on the other hand has never shared a name between entries, for the most part, they don't even have canon names, hence the name Hero and for the most part, people weren't mad about where Hero came from, they were more so mad about his rng mechanics that's since cooled down, so no, you can't make the same arguments for Hero Link has stayed consistent (for the most part) I know you're gonna say "but they are technically different incarnations as well" I doubt that's how most people saw it while they were playing, it was still the same blonde haired sword and shield wielding grunting adventurer they'd seen the last time to them, I mean why bother keeping the look if it means nothing at all? because it does mean something, it was iconic and it meant we could see Link as Link, even through art style changes and age differences he's kept his iconic green tunic, his blonde hair, and his green cap, breath of the wild even has these things if you look hard enough (it's also referenced in his alts) bottom line, in an attempt to keep misinformation from spreading you had spread misinformation, there was no point in trying to call him out in the first place, it's not misinformation, it's actually true, when people say they like Link, they don't mean, I like this Link in particular, they mean they like the Link they had an adventure with, and having the same name and appearance means most people who've played Zelda and like Link can have diversified opinions on what Link's personality is, meanwhile the different Hero's have had a few games throughout a long period of time, never staying around long enough to make a name for themselves, hence why Dragon Quest fans can attached to them more then most can, and hence why people dislike Byleth's lack of personality.
@@6IX-369 You entire essay are ignoring by the 1 simple fact. I say "hero is more japanese inclusive. " everything you have said is only applied for the west. So my point still stand. 3 is the most iconic rpg character of all jrpg in japan and to a lot of asian country too. "Hero doesn't have a name" because you never played 1. The entire premise of DQ is that you passed down the name. Edrick is the title given to the first 3 protag and is basically a household name of jrpg protag. You can't say people weren't mad about hero getting in because they exist and they do mad about hero. Just because it's not byleth problem, doesn't mean it's not happening. "Misinforming" as in, he stated hero is not as emotionally attached as link because again, subjectivity. You can't sound like you play 1 DQ and expect every hero to act the same. It's not how it work. I said i respect his point of view already so if he wants to think like that, i will have no comment. Again, tl;dr. Your entire essay are ignoring the "japanese inclusive" i added from my original comment. Just because link was more familiar to some, doesn't mean hero is suddenly voided. Hero has his legacy and his legacy is def big enough to be noticed. If people want to say marth is emotionally attached to them. Go ahead. I only want to disprove the fact that keef ignoring hero's first apperance
I think it was bad timing. It was the last character and people thought it was going to end with a bang but it was just some FE character. I could care less who it is because as long its a new fighter im good but I think some people go to far because they are rumors where people have been sending death threats to Sakurai. The character I want most tho is Master chief especially with the Halo 2 main theme.
@@saucymongoose7246 byleth and terry more like Banjo and botw 2 were nintens big e3 announcements and byleth wouldve probly made ppl more mad than happy. Terry was kinda just there, no one expected much, perfect spot for byleth
I think the timing actually made a lot of sense, considering TMS#FE was just ported to switch, and they also dropped the trailer for the last dlc wave of 3 houses. However, I think that isolated from other Nintendo things, purely talking about smash, it would have been way more hype to have banjo close the fighter pass.
Yeah, this bit confused me. It's like, Zelda showed in Feb 1986, Dragon Quest showed up in May 1986. The DQ protagonist characters have more than enough time to leave an impression on it's fans. Personally, I don't mind Silent Protagonists, Link, Samus,Joker,Byleth etc. But hey, his opinion
Mxyzptlk91 deffo, I’m super excited about byleth even though I wanted Dante more, three houses was easily my goty last year so some representation is nice.
@@Rin_ku And that's completely okay. Like, it is one hundred percent fine to prefer other characters, I love DmC. It's just the blind hate that has me miffed
Mxyzptlk91 Same, I completely get why people are disappointed (and I’m a little disappointed too), but making threats online and trying to get someone fired is not how you go about dealing with it.
Sakurai: *Has Fries with no salt* hm... these french fries don't seem to have any salt on them... *Announces Byleth in Smash* Smash Community: *Produces Salt* Sakurai: *Gets Salt from Smash Community and uses it on the fries* Ahh, much better!
Everyone punked themselves! They got super excited for Dante, for no reason and are now salty that Byleth is here, despite them arguably being a pretty unique FE character.
Ikr? It's like when peole make theories about about a show but then get angry when it's wrong. It's not the show's fault, and it's not Sakurai's fault people thought it was gonna be Dante, wth?
Honestly though.. Hero did get that pass from Japanese players that grew up with Dragon Quest more than westerners did, so.. It's a good analogy regarding Link that can be applied to the Hero to some extent.
Aka "i want another character that both looks distinctually different to the rest from their series and anyone else in the game, that can also have a creative, fun to use moveset over 6 marths, marth with book, and furry marth"
@@Aa-dc2xu lol thats because your little mind is too narrow. He made a fucking plant fun to play, how cant he make a character who is known for playing tennis,being rotten, and being a HUGE cheater awesome to play?
@@ceriani1234 I'm not doubting that Sakurai can't make a fun character. He made Byleth even more fun than I thought he would be. Just feel like there could be more interesting characters he could add, not just 3rd party, but also 1st party characters like Bandanna Dee.
This amount of hate came from everyone's expectations being so high due to him being the final character in the fighters pass. Had he been third or fourth, then the backlash wouldn't have been this huge
If he were 3rd or fourth, i wouldnt of gotten the fighter pass in the first place, i would just get hero, banjo,and terry seperately and been on my way. But now im stuck with this shit.
That's why you don't buy the pass without information. You buy single characters that way you save money, and don't get your hopes up. Thanks Fighter pass 1 for teaching me how to be happy about the first 4 characters and hating the last character even though I'm a FE fan myself 👍
pokemon has 10 (soon to be 11 mmw) not couting the pokeball roster also way more than 100 character in fire emblem there's like 50 per game. Also how many characters are there in mario ?
@@GDKsan we have most of the major mario characters already. I purposely didnt mention it because i feel its a more fair comparison. But omitting the context of pokemon specifically was just ignorant on OPs part.
There is a difference between an avatar character, and a created character. You are implying that things like the courier and bayleth are the same thing. Thats like comparing an empty canvas with a color by the numbers book.
ceriani1234 listen to how Keef describes an Avatar character and think back to what the Hunter did in the cutscenes in Monster Hunter World. Exactly the same, just with a few more action scenes in it.
@@ceriani1234 The differences are pretty minuscule, and Keith's dislike for Avatar characters comes from their lack of personality and yet even Byleth has more personality than a created character.
There’s nothing wrong with Byleth in Smash. The problem was how they unintentionally built up fighter pack 5 after four third party characters. Had they started with Byleth, things would have gone much better.
Thanks for having a sense of humor about the whole thing, Keef. Even if Byleth wasnt what you wanted, I am glad to see some SmashTubers and streamers show actual appreciation for the content we got. Instead of, well, throwing a temper tantrum. 😂
Honestly, the generic "Hoes Mad" memes and posts got stale for me after seeing several hundred, but the clever ones and ones with actual effort still make me smile.
I love the Hoes Mad Meme because it’s throwing back the same type of repetitive dogshit the Smash community throws at Fire Emblem (“all the same character” “too many swordfighters” “weeb trash” “nobody plays FE”) and when presented with the same sort of shit they bully FE fans with, they suddenly can’t take it. Hypocrisy.
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged and FE fanboys bombared normal People that just wanted other Charakters instead of Byleth with the hOeS MaD and act suprised that they get shit on. There are People who don't like FE(me includet) but still respect Sakurais Choice and like the Moveset of Byleth. I wanted Dante or the Monster Hunter and because we still got 6 Slots and Byleth is using many different Weapons like them my Hopes are still up. Just remember: "Not all Hoes are Mad......some are just dissapointed" -Meme from some dude on Twitter
I played DQ8 as a kid, so I do have the same effect of that skin for Hero as Link =b and then many also played the other 2 skins as a kid as well. Especially in Japan, but I do agree that the Avatar protags lack personality and are greatly inferior to the other protagonists.
To be fair, link does tend to have text based dialogue, especially in 3D Zeldas. There's also the fact that each specific link from the newer games is often characterized in cutscenes. Skyward Sword, Twilight Princess, Breath of the Wild, Wind Waker, etc. Even Hyrule Warriors made sure you knew what he was feeling. Some of the cutscenes in SS were legitimately gut wrenching.
8:22 EXACLY. Byleth has absolutely 0 personality and is as interesting as my vacuum cleaner. I dont get why even fire emblem fans like him so much. At least put in a fire emblem villain like Black Knight or heck i'd even be happy with sothis instead.
The reason FE fans like him is because he has ZERO personality. Avatar characters have been a big iffy subject for FE fans. Robin was ok but FE fans hated Corrin's guts and personality and were fed up with Avatar's like him. So a silent protagonist was really appreciated, not to mention that Byleth does the silent protagonist thing really well cuz he does speak in his games, just not often.
@@aguyfromtheinternet9432 Interesting. I didn't get too in-depth with Byleth's character but he is a bit of an emotionless husk for the first half of the game due to spoiler reasons, but teaching the students and interacting with them makes him gain emotions in a way. I was wary that I wouldn't like him in the beginning cuz he's silent but he grew on me. Joker is probably different from this (don't have a ps4 to play P5) in that he has some positive personality traits, but I could be wrong.
I think the reason why Byleth’s announcement is being met with such a mixed response is because the previous four characters in the Fighter’s Pass have been guest characters from other companies. Ending with a character Nintendo owns will naturally be a disappointment, since guest characters are inherently hype.
The thing about Pokémon and Mario too compared to fire emblem is that all the fighters are unique, and Fire emblem has 4 characters that are really similar
True, I think another problem is the fact that Ultimate is a game with all the characters from previous games, this means that Sakurai can't just cut characters like Roy or Corrin anymore, and it would be unfair to FE fans to not add anymore FE characters, especially with how popular Three Houses is. Though, I will say that all the FE characters feel unique in Ultimate since they all have different properties which makes them competitively different.
Pikachu,Pichu,Mewtwo and Lucario are/were all clones of each other and Mario has 2 versions of himself * technically 3 if you count Luigi which if Roy is considered a Marth clone I think is fair * and Peach and Daisy who are literally just palette swaps. Bruh don't try to pull that shit.
5:00 the real issue isn’t that people don’t like FE characters. It’s that there are 8 characters that are very similar in many ways. Mario and Pokémon have tons of characters that look differently from an visual standpoint, but also play differently. And that’s not to say that FE characters all play and look the exact same, but having 8 sword-bro’s from a single franchise is kind of redundant.
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Yeah Mario and pokemon are more popular, Fire Emblem didn't really grow super heavy until Smash Bros Melee showing off Marth and Roy.
Which opened up fire emblem to a wider audience.
Fire Emblem Awakening saved the studio from shutting down.
Let the man make his cheddar. It's Raid's fault for making a bad game.
Oh god they got you too keef no RUclipsr is safe
@@meme-san1379 well they gotta make even if they have to sell out, though I have seen to youtubers call Raid out on their bs.
"raid sha-"
*double taps side of screen 6 times*
How did you know that's what I did?
@@Rex13013 hehe
Ah yes, a fellow mobile user.
(Ahem)
KING CRIMSON
Gentlemen, allow me to introduce myself...
Keef “I like Corrin”
*FEET FETISH CONFESSION INTENSIFIES*
I felt that
RUclipsr: Is sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends
Everyone: *KING CRIMSON!*
Alejandro Espinoza IT JUST WORKS
Alejandro Espinoza
Internet Historian as Giorno: *stabs himself with the requiem arrow*
Emperor crimson
@SandboxArrow Switch Fortnite and Minecraft
Alejandro Espinoza I watched the whole thing
My dude really reaping the rewards of this controversy
He's not the only one
Byleth was the best surprise because everyone’s expectations were over the roof and Byleth came in to ground everyone LMAO
They hit everyones expectations with that big ass down air.
It's like Sakurai dropped a Tactical Nuke against the fans.
This is ironic since byleth is a teacher... HE CAN GROUND EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM!!
Alrox97 yeah tell that to Joker bud
@@babylonreef OMG I GET THE REFERENCE XD
*Everywhere I look... I can still see it. Every ear I plug... I still hear it...*
"This video is sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends..."
but they need to eat
Chang Siah Lim BuT i ThOuGhT yOuTuBeRs WeRe RiCh?!?!
@@rosemclean2519 not all of as
“Who didn’t like Corrin?”
Bruh lol
"Who didn't like Corrin"
Fire emblem fans that's who
@@connorbell7301 Byleth is the only Smash character to be hated in both Smash and their Main Franchise
EDIT: Meant to say Corrin woops
@@Ryzeer2 Really? Most Fire emblem fans hated Corrin, but liked Byleth. Byleth being a silent protagonist made sure they couldn't repeat the mistakes they made with Corrin. People just didn't want him taking last spot in the smash dlc. Me personally, I'm fine with Byleth.
@@Ryzeer2 People love saying Byleth critical hit quote: "Here's something to believe in" all the time. Trust me, he's just hated in smash.
@@Ryzeer2 Incorrect. That title goes to Corrin.
I'm so upset that Raid: Shadow Legends didn't make it into smash, like hasn't Sakurai heard of it???
Even though there a shit ton of Mario characters and Pokémon characters but hey whatever
You mean raid: fire emblem
Mario characthers should be that represented because it's the name of the game
Also pokemon have VASTLY DIFFERENT movesets and TYPES
Think about that
Also FE is shit
@@hobbsscott9189 “Mario characters should be more represented because that’s the name of the game” you... are stupid... right?
Really feel bad for the peeps who actually wanted Byleth. Seeing all the negativity on Twitter must really bum them out...There ARE people who wanted Byleth in Smash guys. Let them enjoy it.
Also did you just say Raid Shadow Legends? We lost another one. Damn..
That's how i felt personally with when Terry Bogard got shitted on by the Smash Community so i feel 'em on that level
As someone who really wanted Byleth, I pretty much expected it. I just decided to have fun with it and meme on Twitter (yes that also includes the annoying Hoes Mad thing. I didn’t care. I wanted to enjoy myself on Twitter to block out all the negativity.)
Yeah. I’m one of those people Who wanted Byleth and it’s really disheartening.
I prefer Byleth more than that abominable cartoon cup.
@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE you got the character, what are you sad about dude? It's fine if you like a character, but obviously some people don't want a character from a well-supported franchise. Don't let other people's opinions on characters in a video game bring you down.
Thank you lord for these memes I get to digest.
Yeet
You know hero and fire emblem is as old as zelda
I actually thought everyone was mad at corrin.
*Not even* the Fire Emblem community likes Corrin. Fates was easily the worst fe game ever, and that's in no small part thanks to Corrin's nonexistent personality, even compared to other FE avatar characters.
@@howyoudoinggrim yes, but his point was that link is more or less 1 character, while almost every DQ and FE have a whole new protagonist each game.
Dedue to ashe in their support convo:
"careful, or you will oversalt it"
super hyped for them though!!! Fire emblem has such a long history, just dont forget that :3
Most people: WHO WANTED THIS ANIME WEEB HEADASS CHARACTER?
Me: *raises hand slowly in corner*
I understand why people are upset and it’s justified. I just like 3H’s lol. If they changed the order the characters were released for the Fighter’s Pass there wouldn’t be anywhere near as much backlash tbh.
Of course the weeb
Man with the Pyra thumbnail, still holdin our hope for her and our boy Rex!
Manny Campos I wouldn’t say I “wanted” them more than some other characters but I knew this would happen at some point so I was always prepared lol
Purpose driven Talents if we can get Byleth we can still get Rex I have faith still!
WEEB ALERT
4:20 just about everyone hated corrin when he got his trailer, it was just a 30% lighter version of what happened with byleth because bayonetta showed up later.
Was abouta say. I remember people disliking Corrin. And for a fair point. Corrin is LAME as hell. Even Byleth is a little bit cooler just because they aren't a complete bitch in their game.
I was ecstatic when Corrin was announced. He was a decently cool character.
Even FE fans weren't happy
@@MickeyYeahbaby No one knew how lame Corrin was in his game since the game wasn't out.
And most people were made until the gameplay part where most switched from "fuck that" to "they look fun".
bruh you timestamped at 4:20
Keef over here: “Corrin was good who didn’t like Corrin?” Me in JJJ’s voice: You serious?
With all this Byleth “controversy” this man had to pull up with classic Raid shadow legends ad when most people are already at their breaking point 😂😂 get your bag sir!!!
Most streamers: "We all knew this was coming eventually and I liked 3 Houses so I'm cool with this"
Smash Players:"AnOtHeR fIrE eMbLeM cHaRaCtEr?!?"
? Some of the most popular streamers were super deflated after seeing the reveal, and they weren't even regular smashers but they appreciate the game.
This is funny, but it's not the craziest thing in the world to not want more fire emblem characters or sword fighters
@Trex 2402 Maximillian, top Twitch streamer who is well recognized in the FGC but not a smasher but likes the game casually didnt like the reveal, but I guess that makes him toxic for not agreeing immediately to everything Nintendo releases.
IDK what people expected especially after they big up Fire Emblem 3 houses This isn't going to be some NRS situation where you get some wild ass guest characters.
@Trex 2402 Yo, can we talk about this real quick?
Why do you do this? Why not let others express their disappointment (as long as they do so in a healthy manner) if they feel that way, instead of labeling them as "toxic" for not aligning with your opinion?
It's just _words._ Won't kill anyone if I say "Man, I really don't like Byleth".
6:12
Big Keef: "I'm not watching this TRASH youtuber"
Lil' Keef in the video: "...why?"
Byleth is now the biggest meme of the Smash Community XD
Good
Im okay with this. I actually wanted Byleth in Smash since I first played 3 Houses.
And it actually happened. The salt has been delicious. 😋
Years of research will always be my favorite
The butt of the jokes alongside Corrin 😂
@@ZeroHero3d good for you. :)
Mighty Keef is being blessed.
First sword and shield, and now Bayleth in Ultimate.
Boy that’s just crazy
Don't forget about raid shadow legends
Byleth*
am i the only one that wanted byleth or edelgard to get into smash just so that the three house's godlike music can get into the game?
*rip god shattering star*
Smash couldn't handle the sheer POWER of that song. Only those who fought to the end of the GD route were rewarded with it.
dimitri would have been better in smash
I honestly would have been less pist if it was Edelgard.
All three leaders as echo fighters with Bylad and Bylass would have been neat.. but nope. Still I'm actually pretty glad Byleth was included all the same.
People....Having ONLY one of the Three Houses leaders will be unfair. Imagine if instead of Corrin, they added Azura ffs (actually bad example, a dancer will be a nice addition, I meant Takumi).
I AIN'T EVEN MAD.
6 more slots boyz. Stay frosty.
HELL YEAH BROTHER
6 more fire emblem characters
Yeah boi!
sakurai: we heard about the complaints about fire emblem/sword characters. So we decided to add hector but instead of his trademark axe we decided to give him his sword.
Yup. Three for Edelgard, Dmitri, and Claude, and then the other three can be whatever.
*when u joins smash but everyone hates u*
byleth: *sad noises*
Corrin: First time?
Roy: am I a joke to you?
@@LSmashUlt i wouldn't say roy was that hated. if anything, people were overjoyed that he returned..
@@maibignutt6434at the time when people unlocked him and marth in melee we was like "WHO?"
I don't
The hygiene meme and Bylith in the sky of DMC 3 got me good.
"why is Corrin there? People weren't mad when he came in smash"
You're new at fire emblem, aren't you?
Don't worry, in the next smash when the same thing happens again Byleth will be in Corrin place and he will be "Why is Byleth there? People weren't mad when he came in smash"
You know what I can actually relate to Dragon Quest fans even more now, whether you like this inclusion or not the memes will always be good.
Except dragon quest is legendary. FE is a serie that nintendo has been shilling since Melee yet the franchise cant even outsold splatoon 1 and 2
Emmanuel Mondesir Oh really? Here I heard that Awakening, Fates and especially Three Houses were successful. Awakening and 3H getting more popular because of Smash but selling well before their Main Characters were in Smash. Either way though the series also has a long history too so the inclusion isn't unfounded.
@@shadedhydra6674 They are the most successful in the serie but the serie itself isnt really one of Nintendo top seller. Again as a whole, its still under Splatoon 1+2. Just like Earthbound(a game that I love) its a serie that was included in Smash more for promotion than based on actual sales.
@@emmanuelmondesir1314 Dude Splatoon 1 and 2 both sold like absolute crazy. The only thing other than Splatoon that has outsold FE3H is Mario games and Zelda. Its sold way more than Dragon Quest 11.
This post reeks of American bias. Fire emblem is a pretty big series overall in Japan. Like Fe3 was a major seller back in the snes days and remained so till 9-12 which were plagued by by release dates and marketing. Series is over 30 years old with 17 entries and pretty much one of the forerunners of SRPGs. Like serious after Zelda, Pokemon and Mario Fire emblem is overall one of the biggest impacting Nintendo series in Japan
But Dante is also a swordsman with multiple weaponry on his side just like "who shall not be memed"...
Lol except dante would have an interesting moveset and not look like a fucking echo fighter for marth.
@@ceriani1234 ah yes my favorite character Marth who has a spear, axe and bow. And only uses his sword for up attacks and jab
@@kai_824 ah yes, my favorite character, marth with links neutral special, hatchet man, ssf2 luffy's up special, and one move that uses a spear...so original. Your pfp makes your opinion invalid.
@@ceriani1234 Bruh I don't even want this new guy. But you think Smash U us copying moves from ssf2 luffy?
@@Brandonious15987 no, im saying to all the people who say they are completely "original" that its not.
After the initial rage comes the memes.
Thank God for the memes.
And glad I have Mortal Kombat 11 which is getting THE GOD DAMN JOKER. Hell yea.
We got a Joker too!
Wait actually, does he tell any jokes?
This Boi can't even speak sentences!
*0 H • • •*
Didn't think I wanted him.....until that trailer dropped.
@@clutchcake7717 RIGHT?! Now i'm like GIVE ME JAN 28TH DAMMIT lol
I'm gonna grab that game for Spawn. I feel you though.
Imagine if insted of joker we would have gotten a fire emblem character😂
"Who didn't like Corrin?"
Bruh
Lol Link was given a personality. All I can imagine is a little elf doing grunts, always hungry and saying: "Well, excuuuuuuuuse me, Princess."
I WONDER WHAT GANON IS UP TO?!?!??!
I'm just sitting here waiting on Byleth the weeb I am
I am sitting here too
I kinda feel guilty because I was waiting for this
@@infamoussim4418 I slick wanted him in too after playing Three Houses but didn't think it would happen
Me too I got 6 dollars ready
Amen
Bro did Dante just pull a Roy Mustang lol? "It's only the rain" I'm weak
NOT Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series
Keef: this video was sponsored by R A I D S H A D O W L E G E N D S
Me: heavy breathing* I cAn'T eScApE iT!!!
but they need to eat
Let them get paid bruh
Wait a minute this man said Hero recently came out... In Smash sure but over in Japan anything you can say for Link you can probably say for the beloved DQ protagonists.
That was a weak way to excuse Link, because DQ is way older than Link and like you said it's beloved and even a tradition in Japan. The excuse he used applies more to Hero than Link.
@@Rex13013 it's not older than Link. They both came out the same year, but The Legend of Zelda is older by three months.
@@MichaelLawrence-dv3dn Yeah you're right, I found out about that later on, but that still doesn't defeat the point that the Hero is a classic character, and that the DQ series is more popular in Japan. Plus still, same year.
@@Rex13013 oh, I know. I've watched a whole lot of anime and it's been referenced a lot, especially in the isekai genre.
I have counter for "hoes mad"
It's...
"Bitches yell"
The memes are actually entertaining af. It's the part when their sending death threats that bothers me.
I completely agree. That Ginyu Tokusentai meme is pure gold!
Any proofs of deaths threats tho? Seems like a thing everyone throws around with no proof
Markos Koutmanis search for it, you’ll find it
@@markoskoutmanis8902 Twitter exists 👍🏾
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged I search for them and can't find them. Can you send a link?
Lol you said "who didn't like corrin". The reaction was literally the same thing as it is now. Everyone not a fire emblem fan got mad and complained they wasted a slot. History repeats itself.
To be fair, even the FE community hates Corrin. The community was just happy to see everyone else salt
@@alguidoemblema153 i like corrin in smash. Fates is another story lol
It actually seems to me as though Smash only players actually like Corrin more than Fire Emblem fans.
@@theyellowflash26 Fate's story was written by an outside writer that had no experience with games, but the problem is that Intelligent Systems didn't have enough writers for three campaigns.
Ah yes... another video sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends.
but they need to eat
@@changsiah2 we get it
@@darkstar4450 oh good
9:09 Hero doesn’t get that
Japanese people who played DQ3 in 1988 would like to have a world with you
Do they come with subtitles?
Love the gintama lookin faces on the thumbnail lmfao
MrDmoney156 Same, great call back to this: ruclips.net/video/vIbjgaWHo9g/видео.html
There's a touching story about Blyeth the dog, the siblings who adopted dog is Edelgard, Dimitri and Claude..
The dog have most of it's fun with siblings and ended up pregnant with two of it's child during her lifetime.
It called Rhea and Lady Sothis... Cute little puppys with bright future waiting them both. And they happily grown up with Blyeth for 2 years.
But Both of them have been taken away by siblings because the crest inside Blyeth potentially killing them slowly as the their furs turn into light green. They left her at usual place never came back.
Blyeth waiting them, Waiting and waiting till she's collapse from exhaustion..
The Siblings came back after 2 years later and see Blyeth still alive but barely.. they all cried how miserable she's become.. The dog lick theirs face happily and died shortly after that..
Then, The old man Sakurai said that Blyeth have went to the better place.. one thing the siblings feel so wrong is actually..... Who the fuck is this guy?!
Old Man: *MAY THE SALT COMPELLING YOU WHORES!!* Tearing his face off revealing a Dog skeleton with Smash emblem eyes.
Haters: *AHHHHHHHHHHRRRGGHHH!!*
*Kick and yeet the radio at 2 A.M*
I actually had a gut feeling we would get another FE character. Smash 4 gave us 4 (Robin, Lucina , Roy returning, and Corrin).
I'm loving the Gintama thumbnail
I mean, if we're talking memes, we have to address the greatest one of all in this video
which was sponsored by Raid: Shadow Legends.
That Kagura face is on point
Wow, the thumbnail made me realize that the Gintama troll face is a really good Byleth meme.
No one realizes that now there are 8 FE characters. Meaning each one can be on a single stage at the same time.
Love how you can just shit on hero for being "way newer than link" when dragon quest was like the first jrpg ever and came out the same generation as legend of zelda. We grew up with the heroes of DQ and developed a personality for them to fall into just as link. Infact, i felt way more atachmemt to hero then i ever felt for link.
You don't understand how significant it is for the FE community that Byleth is coming to Smash.
For the longest time the FE community has been divided amongst itself hating on each other over noth fates and awakening for alot of various reasons that that we'll just label "Conservative old school fans" and "liberal newcomers"(yes i know these labels sound very political that is because the divide really felt that way). Three houses was the game that brought the community together much like how awakening saved the franchise financially.
So when you saw that meme of Corrin getting hated on for being in smash it wasn't *entirely* from of the smash community more so than it was a character choice hated by FE fans for putting in fates.
6:46 is best seen without context.
*Chris Hansen wants to know your location*
" Link was introduce when we were kids"
But so is Hero. Only different is that he's more japan inclusive. I respect your point of view keef, but please don't say misinforming things like this
well technically, that would mean Marth too, he means Link has stuck with us
Hero was revealed as Eleven, they are all technically different incarnations and thus your point is very invalid, when was the last time you saw the same exact Hero and in how many titles
how many times did you see the name Link associated with a green tunic, a sword with a blue hilt, and three triangles
technically, Link has stayed consistent and thus we are attached to him in the same way with every outing
Hero on the other hand has never shared a name between entries, for the most part, they don't even have canon names, hence the name Hero
and for the most part, people weren't mad about where Hero came from, they were more so mad about his rng mechanics
that's since cooled down, so no, you can't make the same arguments for Hero
Link has stayed consistent (for the most part) I know you're gonna say "but they are technically different incarnations as well"
I doubt that's how most people saw it while they were playing, it was still the same blonde haired sword and shield wielding grunting adventurer they'd seen the last time to them, I mean why bother keeping the look if it means nothing at all? because it does mean something, it was iconic and it meant we could see Link as Link, even through art style changes and age differences he's kept his iconic green tunic, his blonde hair, and his green cap, breath of the wild even has these things if you look hard enough (it's also referenced in his alts)
bottom line, in an attempt to keep misinformation from spreading you had spread misinformation, there was no point in trying to call him out in the first place, it's not misinformation, it's actually true, when people say they like Link, they don't mean, I like this Link in particular, they mean they like the Link they had an adventure with, and having the same name and appearance means most people who've played Zelda and like Link can have diversified opinions on what Link's personality is, meanwhile the different Hero's have had a few games throughout a long period of time, never staying around long enough to make a name for themselves, hence why Dragon Quest fans can attached to them more then most can, and hence why people dislike Byleth's lack of personality.
@@6IX-369 You entire essay are ignoring by the 1 simple fact. I say "hero is more japanese inclusive. " everything you have said is only applied for the west. So my point still stand. 3 is the most iconic rpg character of all jrpg in japan and to a lot of asian country too.
"Hero doesn't have a name" because you never played 1. The entire premise of DQ is that you passed down the name. Edrick is the title given to the first 3 protag and is basically a household name of jrpg protag.
You can't say people weren't mad about hero getting in because they exist and they do mad about hero. Just because it's not byleth problem, doesn't mean it's not happening.
"Misinforming" as in, he stated hero is not as emotionally attached as link because again, subjectivity. You can't sound like you play 1 DQ and expect every hero to act the same. It's not how it work. I said i respect his point of view already so if he wants to think like that, i will have no comment.
Again, tl;dr. Your entire essay are ignoring the "japanese inclusive" i added from my original comment. Just because link was more familiar to some, doesn't mean hero is suddenly voided. Hero has his legacy and his legacy is def big enough to be noticed. If people want to say marth is emotionally attached to them. Go ahead. I only want to disprove the fact that keef ignoring hero's first apperance
7:42 that‘s the best one 😂
I think it was bad timing. It was the last character and people thought it was going to end with a bang but it was just some FE character.
I could care less who it is because as long its a new fighter im good but I think some people go to far because they are rumors where people have been sending death threats to Sakurai.
The character I want most tho is Master chief especially with the Halo 2 main theme.
Doesn't matter the timing tbh, they'd still complain
Honestly Byleth and Banjo and Kazooie should have switched announcements.
@@saucymongoose7246 byleth and terry more like
Banjo and botw 2 were nintens big e3 announcements and byleth wouldve probly made ppl more mad than happy.
Terry was kinda just there, no one expected much, perfect spot for byleth
I think the timing actually made a lot of sense, considering TMS#FE was just ported to switch, and they also dropped the trailer for the last dlc wave of 3 houses. However, I think that isolated from other Nintendo things, purely talking about smash, it would have been way more hype to have banjo close the fighter pass.
Keef:"THIS VIDEO IS SPONSORED BY-"
Me: Say sike right now
9:13 I think you forget that people grew up playing DQ8 too lmao.
Yeah, this bit confused me. It's like, Zelda showed in Feb 1986, Dragon Quest showed up in May 1986. The DQ protagonist characters have more than enough time to leave an impression on it's fans.
Personally, I don't mind Silent Protagonists, Link, Samus,Joker,Byleth etc. But hey, his opinion
Mxyzptlk91 deffo, I’m super excited about byleth even though I wanted Dante more, three houses was easily my goty last year so some representation is nice.
@@Rin_ku And that's completely okay. Like, it is one hundred percent fine to prefer other characters, I love DmC. It's just the blind hate that has me miffed
Mxyzptlk91 Same, I completely get why people are disappointed (and I’m a little disappointed too), but making threats online and trying to get someone fired is not how you go about dealing with it.
Sakurai: *Has Fries with no salt* hm... these french fries don't seem to have any salt on them... *Announces Byleth in Smash*
Smash Community: *Produces Salt*
Sakurai: *Gets Salt from Smash Community and uses it on the fries* Ahh, much better!
That's a no chief
Everyone punked themselves! They got super excited for Dante, for no reason and are now salty that Byleth is here, despite them arguably being a pretty unique FE character.
Ikr? It's like when peole make theories about about a show but then get angry when it's wrong. It's not the show's fault, and it's not Sakurai's fault people thought it was gonna be Dante, wth?
The ad before the video: “LETS PLAY RAID SHADOW LEGENDS”
Keef: Says the video is sponsored by Raid Shadow legends
Me: never would’ve guessed
“How you make these so fast”
Memes aren’t a joke anymore, it’s our culture sir.
Honestly though.. Hero did get that pass from Japanese players that grew up with Dragon Quest more than westerners did, so..
It's a good analogy regarding Link that can be applied to the Hero to some extent.
I can't imagine a better Dragon Quest rep than the main character, and multiple ones at that.
"I want Waluigi in Smash!"
*8 Mario characters*
Edit: Geno too.
Aka "i want another character that both looks distinctually different to the rest from their series and anyone else in the game, that can also have a creative, fun to use moveset over 6 marths, marth with book, and furry marth"
We need Ashley to rep WarioWare.
FE gets 8 but Wario can't even have Ashley come along?
@@ceriani1234 Even if Waluigi was added to the game, I don't think he would be that interesting. Unless Sakurai tried to go all out in his moveset.
@@Aa-dc2xu lol thats because your little mind is too narrow. He made a fucking plant fun to play, how cant he make a character who is known for playing tennis,being rotten, and being a HUGE cheater awesome to play?
@@ceriani1234 I'm not doubting that Sakurai can't make a fun character. He made Byleth even more fun than I thought he would be. Just feel like there could be more interesting characters he could add, not just 3rd party, but also 1st party characters like Bandanna Dee.
"Not a lot of people wanted"
Japan looking at you right this instant.
8:49 Wasn't dragonquest made in 1986 same time as LoZ? I forget.
This amount of hate came from everyone's expectations being so high due to him being the final character in the fighters pass. Had he been third or fourth, then the backlash wouldn't have been this huge
If he were 3rd or fourth, i wouldnt of gotten the fighter pass in the first place, i would just get hero, banjo,and terry seperately and been on my way. But now im stuck with this shit.
This is the Smash community at its finest, even if they do what you suggested, they will always hate something that is fire emblen
@@heichiro091 I'm aware. I know that even if what i said did happen that people would still be hating but the backlash would definitely be much less
Order didn't save Hero from getting backlash. Doubt it would've made a difference
@@xyenia0122 but hero isn't from fire emblem. Byleth got more hate because he's from a series that's way more notorious in the smash community
We all know that the entire second pass is just gonna be Raid Shadow Legends.
Not any specific characters, just the game itself.
I love the faces from Gintama in the thumbnail
I see you are a man of quality
"How dare they add Byleth, a swordfighter?! I realy wanted Dante, the swordfighter!"
Dante has over 20 different close and long range Weapons.
@@kingknightisbestknight7398 Byleth has access to far more than 20 different weapons as well as a variety of magic.
anyone else wanna bet we getting another fire emblem for the second season pass probably gonna be a character from the new dlc they announce lol
Wouldn't mind it
That's why you don't buy the pass without information. You buy single characters that way you save money, and don't get your hopes up. Thanks Fighter pass 1 for teaching me how to be happy about the first 4 characters and hating the last character even though I'm a FE fan myself 👍
17 game series with 100+ characters
8 game series with 900+ characters
8 smash characters each...
Yeah one makes more sense than the other
pokemon has 10 (soon to be 11 mmw) not couting the pokeball roster also way more than 100 character in fire emblem there's like 50 per game. Also how many characters are there in mario ?
@@GDKsan we have most of the major mario characters already. I purposely didnt mention it because i feel its a more fair comparison. But omitting the context of pokemon specifically was just ignorant on OPs part.
8:17 „i would really like to have Monster Hunter in the game“
- Keef
There is a difference between an avatar character, and a created character. You are implying that things like the courier and bayleth are the same thing. Thats like comparing an empty canvas with a color by the numbers book.
ceriani1234 listen to how Keef describes an Avatar character and think back to what the Hunter did in the cutscenes in Monster Hunter World. Exactly the same, just with a few more action scenes in it.
@@ceriani1234 The differences are pretty minuscule, and Keith's dislike for Avatar characters comes from their lack of personality and yet even Byleth has more personality than a created character.
There’s nothing wrong with Byleth in Smash. The problem was how they unintentionally built up fighter pack 5 after four third party characters. Had they started with Byleth, things would have gone much better.
0:49
MEMES! DNA OF THE SOUL!
6:03 that jumpcut was just crazy
9:24 Scooby Doo Smash DLC Inc.
0:45 HAMON
Thanks for having a sense of humor about the whole thing, Keef. Even if Byleth wasnt what you wanted, I am glad to see some SmashTubers and streamers show actual appreciation for the content we got. Instead of, well, throwing a temper tantrum. 😂
When Byleth's Down B has Armor but Hero's Hatchet Man doesn't, Boy that's just crazy.
Eh Hero's FSmash animation. His leg has no hurtbox on it. Now that is just crazy.
Honestly, the generic "Hoes Mad" memes and posts got stale for me after seeing several hundred, but the clever ones and ones with actual effort still make me smile.
Here's a better one "tough talk for someone who never takes a shower"
@@thegamingdoggo9519 >has Reinhardt pfp
A true Thracian
I love the Hoes Mad Meme because it’s throwing back the same type of repetitive dogshit the Smash community throws at Fire Emblem (“all the same character” “too many swordfighters” “weeb trash” “nobody plays FE”) and when presented with the same sort of shit they bully FE fans with, they suddenly can’t take it. Hypocrisy.
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged I understand, but I just find it petty and hypocritical
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged and FE fanboys bombared normal People that just wanted other Charakters instead of Byleth with the hOeS MaD and act suprised that they get shit on.
There are People who don't like FE(me includet) but still respect Sakurais Choice and like the Moveset of Byleth. I wanted Dante or the Monster Hunter and because we still got 6 Slots and Byleth is using many different Weapons like them my Hopes are still up.
Just remember: "Not all Hoes are Mad......some are just dissapointed"
-Meme from some dude on Twitter
As someone who never played KH I see sora as another anime sword character
I played DQ8 as a kid, so I do have the same effect of that skin for Hero as Link =b and then many also played the other 2 skins as a kid as well. Especially in Japan, but I do agree that the Avatar protags lack personality and are greatly inferior to the other protagonists.
7:11 Not only is it egregious, it's also the wrong Corrin.
To be fair, link does tend to have text based dialogue, especially in 3D Zeldas. There's also the fact that each specific link from the newer games is often characterized in cutscenes. Skyward Sword, Twilight Princess, Breath of the Wild, Wind Waker, etc. Even Hyrule Warriors made sure you knew what he was feeling. Some of the cutscenes in SS were legitimately gut wrenching.
Fighterz getting another Goku so be prepared for that lol
No dante for you. We ain't got time for fake rumors like the grinch.
Wow, I just love Dante from the Ratatouille franchise.
'Who didn't like Corrin?'
The world, Keef Crew, the world.
8:17
Says he doesn't like avatars characters in fighting game.
Wants the monster hunter in Smash
bruh
I still can't get over the infamous Ken with a Hat bit when you did your Terry video
8:22 EXACLY.
Byleth has absolutely 0 personality and is as interesting as my vacuum cleaner. I dont get why even fire emblem fans like him so much. At least put in a fire emblem villain like Black Knight or heck i'd even be happy with sothis instead.
The reason FE fans like him is because he has ZERO personality. Avatar characters have been a big iffy subject for FE fans. Robin was ok but FE fans hated Corrin's guts and personality and were fed up with Avatar's like him. So a silent protagonist was really appreciated, not to mention that Byleth does the silent protagonist thing really well cuz he does speak in his games, just not often.
@@Aa-dc2xu In Persona 5 Joker follows this rule too
a guy from the internet Joker’s mannerisms and dialogue options show personality. He isn’t truly an empty avatar.
@@aguyfromtheinternet9432 Interesting. I didn't get too in-depth with Byleth's character but he is a bit of an emotionless husk for the first half of the game due to spoiler reasons, but teaching the students and interacting with them makes him gain emotions in a way. I was wary that I wouldn't like him in the beginning cuz he's silent but he grew on me. Joker is probably different from this (don't have a ps4 to play P5) in that he has some positive personality traits, but I could be wrong.
@@UltimatePower01 never said he was empty. Just silent, in fact I really like his personality with all the sarcastic options you get with him
“Hero doesn’t get that, UHhh.... UHhhh... What’s his name? BYLETH!” 9:07
It’s ok we’ve all should’ve seen this coming ever since the grinch leak
The video of that kid saying BRUH was so hilarious 😂.
Hold up, keef calm down these memes on the thumbnail r killing me already, ima need that gintama one asap
Corrin DEFINITELY got hate. He was the last DLC pick for Smash 4 alongside Bayo.
I’m not annoyed with Byleth but after watching these memes I’m now depressed it isn’t Dante
I think the reason why Byleth’s announcement is being met with such a mixed response is because the previous four characters in the Fighter’s Pass have been guest characters from other companies. Ending with a character Nintendo owns will naturally be a disappointment, since guest characters are inherently hype.
The thing about Pokémon and Mario too compared to fire emblem is that all the fighters are unique, and Fire emblem has 4 characters that are really similar
True, I think another problem is the fact that Ultimate is a game with all the characters from previous games, this means that Sakurai can't just cut characters like Roy or Corrin anymore, and it would be unfair to FE fans to not add anymore FE characters, especially with how popular Three Houses is.
Though, I will say that all the FE characters feel unique in Ultimate since they all have different properties which makes them competitively different.
Pikachu,Pichu,Mewtwo and Lucario are/were all clones of each other and Mario has 2 versions of himself * technically 3 if you count Luigi which if Roy is considered a Marth clone I think is fair * and Peach and Daisy who are literally just palette swaps.
Bruh don't try to pull that shit.
Dang my opinions 8 months ago were somethin else huh lmfao I don’t even play this game anymore, just to collect video
What I actually find funny is that people actually forgot that they are also mad when Hero is announced. :P
K S T P L T yep they all said only banjo madderd but they also say thanks I will never ask anything from you again do what you want
Keef: This is a meme video, what other memes can we throw here..
R A I D S H A D O W L E G E N D S
5:00 the real issue isn’t that people don’t like FE characters. It’s that there are 8 characters that are very similar in many ways.
Mario and Pokémon have tons of characters that look differently from an visual standpoint, but also play differently.
And that’s not to say that FE characters all play and look the exact same, but having 8 sword-bro’s from a single franchise is kind of redundant.
Visually they look no more alike than Mario, Luigi, Dr Mario, and Wario do. Or Peach, Daisy, and Rosalina,