"The old iron days have gone, the days when the weakling died as the penalty of inability to hold his own in the rough warfare against his surroundings. We live in softer times. Let us see to it that, while we take advantage of every gentler and more humanizing tendency of the age, we yet preserve the iron quality which made our forefathers and predecessors fit to do the deeds they did. It will of necessity find a different expression now, but the quality itself remains just as necessary as ever." -Theodore Roosevelt, The Strenuous Life: Essays and Addresses
As your former student of yours and as a current student at another university. MY biggest fear is that I am stuck in a "helpless" place, because one of my peers has decided to hurt individuals. While I'm unsure of what I would actually do as I have not been in that situation. I feel in the deepest parts of me that I will always fight my own fight. I will not let someone get me, despite the sideways looks I may get for saying so. I may run, I may hide, but I will certainly fight.
I think training is so important as it's the confidence you have from being prepared mentally that makes you dangerous. Just having the tool but not training makes it even worse for you. You have to put yourself in situations where you have to choose to act so that when those moments come you don't just freeze up or take flight. Like you said Training is required. You need that to choose fight mode and be able to do that effectively while in the situation. Excellent video.
I for one have always been a proponent of what I call the One Punch Rule. That is, if someone deserves a punch, you punch them. You don't beat them senseless, you don't grab a baseball bat or get your friends together; just one punch. A civil but firm expression of displeasure. I will gladly die defending the right to say and do what you want. But that comes with the responsibility to be respectful, and being disrespectful should have consequences.
Thank you for making all these new videos MVH. I am in the time of my life(17) where I need these video's. It is helping me understand everything that is going on in my head and how I feel about life.
I honestly wish they would legalize formal duels again. From a behavior standpoint, bullying may not be pleasant, but it is an important trial you need to experience & understand as a child. Having the heart to face an adversary is admired. My dad always told me, as I'm sure many other boys my age heard, 'don't start trouble, but never let it go unfinished'. We need a new code of chivalry.
Regardless of what our Prey Society preaches, I have always believed a man should be a hero when needed. That means you have to be prepared to be one when the time comes.
*I can highly recommend any fighting sport,* or anything in which you get more in touch with your own body, explore your pain levels, and knowing what you are capable of. It will give you a lot more courage and almost a zen state when not being afraid to face confrontations. It will help you against modern mental violence such as your boss trying to trick you in giving away your self-worth for the good of the company, some drunk stepping over you by bothering your girl, or confronting some hustling kids to take their dealings away from the playground. Know that even though you can fight, you don't need too. *Streetfights are still dangerous and can be accidentally lethal.* It's about your presence, that you're calm and friendly confrontation is supported by the silent knowledge that you are capable for something worse. People will often listen to you if they feel this. _Speak softly and carry a big stick_
I have always felt this way during the shooter drills,however, I would like you to expand on the church as an institution for pasification. There are lots of sects that preach itemization,however, in my experience, they preach the necessity of masculinity in the modern age
Sure thing. Many churches focus on a man being a 'good man’, but pay little heed to him being 'good at being a man'. Being a 'good man' is a philosophical ideal based on living the higher moral virtues. While being ‘good at being a man’ is an anthropological reality based on performing the three pillars of manliness competently (protect, provide, and procreate). This focus on promoting the 'good man' has, over time, made Christian men more sensitive & gentle, but also (dare I say) timid & effeminized. There's no doubt a balance to be struck here- that is, sensitivity and gentleness are valuable attributes to incorporate into our nature, but must, in my opinion, be equally balanced with attributes of a stronger nature- such as steadfast strength, heroism, and resolved will. There's a Scottish-born Baptist minister from the 1800s named Alexander Maclaren whose sermons cover this well. If possible, try and find a copy of the sermon he preached at Union Chapel in Manchester, England in 1872. It's epic. All of this is simply my opinion of course, from decades in the church, years of working at church camps, and having a Methodist minister for a father. I think church is important though, and I think more men should incorporate it into their (and their family's) lives. Surely some churches are not effeminizing their parishioners. And that's great. But some certainly are. Which, imo, isn't great. But I'm not alone in noticing such things. See John Eldredge's "Wild at Heart" or Mike Yarbrough's "Tending the Fire", both of which are excellent. Hope that clarifies some things!
I think for a man to be courageous is much more important and is commonly overlook by men thinking they need to be violent. Violence, although necessary is not natural. PTSD exists for this very reason. Men don't want to be violent, they want to be capable. Being capable in the situation you describe could mean defending yourself violently (as necessary) but also it could mean reacting quickly and courageously to step up and lead the innocent or those incapable out the back door to safety, or barricading them in a safe area while you distract the active shooter. I agree with your explanation overall, but many men who here this mantra of "men should be violent" that has been repeated by those who they consider in intellectual positions, usually only hear the first part of the saying and ignore the second part. I highly advise reading about Audie Murphy, a man of great courage who unfortunately had to use necessary violence which is a distinct difference in just being violent. Thanks for the video, definitely something to think about.
I recently finished a book on Murphy (couple months back), titled "Against All Odds", and it was excellent. He was an amazing warrior, but the weight of his experiences (PTSD) definitely changed him forever, both during and after the war. Being a controlled, but dangerous man with the capacity (and capability) to use violence for good, when necessary, is important. But it's certainly not all men should strive for. But it is the limited subject of this video, which I think most folks understand. As you mentioned, courage should also be cultivated, as it's one of the most treasured virtues among men throughout history (along with others, such as strength, honor, mastery, industry, etc). Proficiency, strength, and experience can provide confidence in various scenarios which might require courage, but there's certainly other factors that can manifest courage... but that's a whole separate topic to unpack. As for whether violence is natural or not, I tend to hold a different view, but I understand your perspective and think it's rational. I think back to early human encounters with violence, from hunting large ungulates unkindly disposed to us, to defending carcasses from predators, to quarreling with other tribes over range and resources. I believe that violence was present, and a natural part of this life. I'm not saying we mentally/ emotionally were unaffected by it (I can't help but think we were), but I wonder if our experience of it was different due to the circumstances?... That is, hunting for food. Defending food and resources for survival. Consistent exposure to the often violent cycle of life, etc. I also wonder about the difference in killing technology both wielded and used against Audie Murphy, compared to humans hundreds of thousands of years ago... and the psychological impact of that... such as Audie's friends being minced by machine gun fire and vaporized by artillery. Perhaps we're more effected by conflicts with humans than we are with animals? Lots to explore there. Thanks for the comment!
Ha! You bet, brother. There’s no virtue in harmlessness- but there is in peacefulness. The other day I heard a different, reinterpreted translation of Jesus’ famous statement that “the meek shall inherit the earth.” This translation is something more akin to “those who have swords and know how to use them but keep them sheathed shall inherit the earth.” Interesting shift, and something to ponder if it’s a more accurate translation.
They started doing this in the UK now for some reason too. I finished college a year ago, but was there one of them. I pointed out with a friend to the tutors that an mdf table would do fuck all to protect is if we were getting shot at. I suggested that we would be better of rushing an armed attacker as 1 person wouldn't be able to shoot 30 at the same time. For this comment, we were told that if we weren't going to take it seriously we would be temporarily excluded and and given a warning on our college records. It's absolutely nuts that the only strategy for this is hiding and getting shot at like fish in a barrel.
Exactly. If in the classroom the protocol was to simply shut the lights off and all huddle up in the corner, and again, hope that nothing happened. So much wrong with that.
For me it's strange to hear that you 'only had four campus polica' on campus. I'm going to a campus here in Sweden at the moment and we don't have any campus police and I've never heard of any violence or crime at the campus. I think something is broken from the beginning if that's even needed. Not saying that there's no risk for violence but it's just so unthinkable. I've hardly ever even seen a fight even if I was out drinking a lot in my youth. Sure there's always a good thing to be prepared for the worst. As you know you can't carry weapons here and it's mainly just hunters and poliecemen that has weapons here in Sweden. Not saying that we do everything right because Sweden is in many ways a weird little country. haha. But it seems like America is a much more violent place and I don't really know why that is.
Sweden has 10.4 million people, the US has 332 million. Sweden's crime rate in 2019 was 15,064 per 100,000 citizens. in the US, the 2019 crime rate was 381 per 100,000 citizens. Per capita, the US is much safer. According to Statista, anyways.
I mean the whole thing was built ground up through violence and inhumane conditions and was continued as such until not so long ago. It'll take a whole lotta time to fix that, if it doesn't all collapse in itself first
Exactly! as Dr Jordan Peterson said, "a harmless man is not a good man, a good man is a very, very dangerous man who has that under voluntary control." I think its so important as a man to be capable in any situation, I want to be able to walk into a room and know I'm the biggest, smartest guy there, and if something went down I could protect the people I'm with. something else I want to touch on is physicality, throughout history it has been a very important trait in men, if our ancestors were getting attacked by a wild animal they would stand up and make loud noises and try to appear as big as possible to scare away the threat. and in the modern day that can be translated into working out and having visible muscles, think about it, if you're walking alone at night for example and you look like a strong guy, you are less of a target to potential attackers. I'm not saying you have to look massive like a powerlifter, but having noticeable muscle definition and having the strength and skills to back that up could stop a fight before it even starts. also I find the topic of gun control an interesting debate, people often say that guns should be banned as if that would fix the problem, but like you said in the video they are just tools, if I were to smash someone's head in with a hammer should all hammers be banned? of course not! unfortunately firearms are heavily restricted here in the UK so its not possible to casually go to a shooting range, but I definitely agree that it would be a good skill to have. finally I want to talk about school shootings, I've heard it argued by feminists that "toxic masculinity" is the cause of these kinds of violent attacks, but I think its the opposite, modern men are told to be weak and act on their emotions, and its acting on those emotions that causes violent outbursts. rather than being told to cry more and talk about our feelings, I think schools should teach philosophy classes about stoicism, and teach boys to recognise, but still control their emotions, and to let them out in a healthy way like martial arts and boxing. I have so much to say on these kind of topics but this is kinda starting to feel like an essay (which is ironic since writing an essay like that in a college would get you expelled for having a "harmful ideology"). keep up the videos I'm loving this new direction of the channel.
Thanks for the response, Thomas! Yeah, the physicality you mention is often called 'threat display'. I actually discuss it in one of the modules of my men's program. Simply looking strong, regardless of whether you actually are or aren’t, is a physical advertisement that you’re a formidable man. In short, men will respond to you more respectfully, and hold you in higher esteem, if you look like you could kick their ass. Of course muscularity doesn’t necessarily make one a good fighter- but it does, ironically, help deter fights in the first place, thanks to one’s appearance as a formidable opponent. Of course if one develops true strength, and couples it with technique (martial arts, etc), they're the real deal. And that's something we should all strive for. I concur with your other perspectives as well. Thanks for chiming in, brother!
Dr. Irenäus Eibl-Eibesfeldt. I believe it's in his book, 'Human Ethology', though I originally came across it in Dr. Randall Eaton's "From Boys to Men of Heart".
@@user-ve5ei2xe8h You bet! If you can find Eaton's book (no longer in print) I strongly recommend that you purchase and read it. One of my absolute favorites. I interviewed him on the channel over a year ago. Awesome dude.
The only major problem I have with this assessment is that you (seem to) expect only men to be "dangerous" as you put it. Women should also be capable of defending themselves and be as effective in that as they can be. I would also suspect we have 2 very different reasons why we feel men should be trained for "violence" as you put it, which doesn't pertain too much to this topic.
Modern humans in general are very quick to have someone else or a governing body be the protectors of society. It has not gotten us far. People, men in particular must be the protectors and guardians of what they hold dear. The absence of this societal attitude is one of the reasons why community, familial structure and masculine norms have been eroded away.
Jordan Peterson said this once, something about a dangerous man is a good man with his danger under voluntary control. I absolutely agree. It’s why carrying just makes sense to me, it’s not there because I want to kill someone, it’s there to defend myself and others from someone who wants to hurt us.
I carry a firearm wherever I go. I literally NEVER leave home without it. I pray to god that I never have to use it. But I won’t hesitate to use it to defend the lives of my wife, kids and myself.
I totally agree with you here unfortunately for me I live in the uk so its a lot harder to purchase a firearm. and if you did use it here you would probably end up like Anthony Martin
I just looked that up,he went to jail for shooting a burglar even tho he didn't have a firearm license pretty stupid and unfair to put him in jail Luckily I live in Texas No problems here 🔫 🦬
Seems like a lot of people on here are from America well you will know the film Braveheart William Wallace I am Scottish I believe in respot unfortunately the true reality of Scotland these days are people here are mostly snowflakes lightweights they are too busy with more oestrogen in their body and more relying on their comforts and conveniences and use the excuse of I am too old or I am injured or one thing or another well if I can do it at my age and show people age is just a number if I can do these things were completely washing my eyesight and did remain determined to raise enough funds or awareness to get my eyesight the store and be as good of a role model and spray see Nan and motivational person for people in other people can do it there is no excuse you can do it people you just need to man up and stop being afraid of the politically correct indoctrination nonsense you are hearing from big corporations media and I like it is nothing wrong there is nothing wrong with masculinity and testosterone nothing at all as long as you treat people with love and kindness and be as good as you can be only use your strengths and your knowledge and power when you need to defend yourself or in competition people time to quiet shut up and man up lol
A Scotsman! Welcome, brother. My family's originally from Luss, on Loch Lomond. So what's going on over there in Scotland, Jay? I've heard bits and pieces on the news about it here in the US. Just went super woke then?
Maybe the best thing we should do is instead of trying to defend ourselves against dangerous people, we should try to change society so these dangerous people don't develop. This all starts in the home which is reflective of the systems snd traditions of that society
Personally? I don’t believe the police should come to your house to protect you. They should be a body bag delivery service after I put two into some guy breaking into my house
I think if you break into a home you’re fair game. That should be the law. I don’t know or care what your intentions are, and I’m not waiting to find out.
Jordan Peterson talks about the bible quote "Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth." It's his theory that this is a mistranslation and it's something more like "Blessed are those with sheathed swords, for they will inherit the earth." He has also said that the weak cannot be virtuous. I completely agree. A civilized dangerous man is the only thing that can stop an uncivilized one and while he might lose that contest, he certainly won't be a victim.
Absolutely. It's funny, I mentioned the 'sheathed swords' translation to another person in the comments yesterday. I'd love to see JP dive deeper into that. Awesome stuff.
@@ManvsHistory Yeah for sure, his ability to articulate these concepts are next level. But I'd say you do an excellent job too, you do it in a very accessible way for the average person to parse and understand. I've been watching your videos since the Mountain Man RDO stuff and it's really cool to see you transition to covering very real and pertinent topics. I grew up without a father past the age of 9 and since then I've had to cobble one together from the writings of the great men of history, philosophers, modern thinkers and videos on RUclips. Trust me when I say that this kind of content is very much needed and appreciated. Thank you for your hard work and please keep it up!
@@cuthred116 I appreciate that, Cuthred! Thank you. Based upon your reference to JP, it seems to me that you've managed to cobble together some solid guidance. If only all fatherless men could find such mentors...
Being strong is just like conceal carrying. You are doing something the average guy isn't and thus gives you an advantage. Second note... I teach my kids to run away from a fight unless they are protecting others or are cornered. Once cornered, make them regret they ever started it. I highly recommend Judo. Traditional Judo is great from standing or ground positions. Street fighting is best not done on the ground.
@@bafelix89 I’m familiar with that interview! If I remember correctly, he’s pointing out the complications involved with sexual signals in the workplace. Rouge (or blush) intentionally mimics physiological displays of fertility in women (flushed cheeks). Lipstick mimics increased blood flow in the lips, present during sexual arousal. High heels adjusts posture to enhance a woman’s bust size (and also impacts calves and behind). JP doesn’t (again, if memory serves me correctly) say they shouldn’t be allowed, but rather that there should be a discussion on how the freedom to display such signals coexist with simultaneous training about sexual harassment in the workplace. Don’t get me wrong- it doesn’t excuse sexual harassment in the workplace, but there’s lots of layers to this… biology, evolution, freedom, etc.
@@bafelix89 Yeah, somehow this conversation just went from 1 to 11. Hmmm… As a historian who has written about sexual signals and pair bonding in early humans I think it’s an ‘interesting’ conversation due to the biological/historical/ anthropological angles. It’s something that’s been discussed by reputable evolutionary biologists as well, because they too found it interesting. It doesn’t mean we agree with the premise, but bounce around the idea for the sake of intellectual exercise/ exploration. But if you feel so strongly about JP or his ideas then I suggest you let him know. Or just be at peace that there’s folks out there in the world who hold different opinions and perspectives. Either way, I wish you the best, Brock.
@@bafelix89 Yeah, have to disagree with you here. I simply see things very differently. As for my channel I’m going to stay my course. But if that’s not a journey you’re interested in coming along on I understand and I wish you the best.
@@bafelix89 I'm very curious about your beliefs regarding the freedoms of speech and expression protected by the First Amendment of the Constitution. Those are the freedoms that let people bring "harmful ideologies" to the table, they also protect your right leave comments expressing your own ideas. Nobody lets anybody's ideology go unchallenged in 2023. I would like to point out that JP is a strong supporter of those freedoms and your right to challenge his beliefs.
Andrew Arrabito (Navy SEAL) and I had this conversation in our interview that's posted on the channel. If you haven't listened, I definitely recommend you check it out.
"The old iron days have gone, the days when the weakling died as the penalty of inability to hold his own in the rough warfare against his surroundings. We live in softer times. Let us see to it that, while we take advantage of every gentler and more humanizing tendency of the age, we yet preserve the iron quality which made our forefathers and predecessors fit to do the deeds they did. It will of necessity find a different expression now, but the quality itself remains just as necessary as ever."
-Theodore Roosevelt, The Strenuous Life: Essays and Addresses
Better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war.
As your former student of yours and as a current student at another university. MY biggest fear is that I am stuck in a "helpless" place, because one of my peers has decided to hurt individuals. While I'm unsure of what I would actually do as I have not been in that situation. I feel in the deepest parts of me that I will always fight my own fight. I will not let someone get me, despite the sideways looks I may get for saying so. I may run, I may hide, but I will certainly fight.
Every man should avoid conflict while simultaneously being prepared to punish any person who intends to violate your safety I get you
Speak softly and carry a big stick
"Speak softly but carry a big stick; you will go far" - Teddy Roosevelt
As old Teddy said, "speak softly and carry a big stick."
I think training is so important as it's the confidence you have from being prepared mentally that makes you dangerous. Just having the tool but not training makes it even worse for you. You have to put yourself in situations where you have to choose to act so that when those moments come you don't just freeze up or take flight. Like you said Training is required. You need that to choose fight mode and be able to do that effectively while in the situation. Excellent video.
I for one have always been a proponent of what I call the One Punch Rule. That is, if someone deserves a punch, you punch them. You don't beat them senseless, you don't grab a baseball bat or get your friends together; just one punch. A civil but firm expression of displeasure.
I will gladly die defending the right to say and do what you want. But that comes with the responsibility to be respectful, and being disrespectful should have consequences.
What 'deserves' a punch?
No one owes you respect, though.
@@realalaskanlegends That's the great thing; you get to decide what deserves a punch.
@@TheNotoriousCheeto Are you saying you will punch someone who disrespects you? That's illegal in the US.
@Real Alaskan Legends Sadly, yes, it is. Which is why, no, I don't do it.
But sure is fun to think about.
Thank you for making all these new videos MVH. I am in the time of my life(17) where I need these video's. It is helping me understand everything that is going on in my head and how I feel about life.
A good man is not one who is not dangerous. A good man is a very dangerous man who keeps their emotions in check.
I honestly wish they would legalize formal duels again.
From a behavior standpoint, bullying may not be pleasant, but it is an important trial you need to experience & understand as a child. Having the heart to face an adversary is admired. My dad always told me, as I'm sure many other boys my age heard, 'don't start trouble, but never let it go unfinished'.
We need a new code of chivalry.
Regardless of what our Prey Society preaches, I have always believed a man should be a hero when needed. That means you have to be prepared to be one when the time comes.
This is just awesome, but more than that it is needed.
*I can highly recommend any fighting sport,* or anything in which you get more in touch with your own body, explore your pain levels, and knowing what you are capable of.
It will give you a lot more courage and almost a zen state when not being afraid to face confrontations. It will help you against modern mental violence such as your boss trying to trick you in giving away your self-worth for the good of the company, some drunk stepping over you by bothering your girl, or confronting some hustling kids to take their dealings away from the playground.
Know that even though you can fight, you don't need too. *Streetfights are still dangerous and can be accidentally lethal.* It's about your presence, that you're calm and friendly confrontation is supported by the silent knowledge that you are capable for something worse. People will often listen to you if they feel this.
_Speak softly and carry a big stick_
Well said.
Ain't nothing more dangerous than Florida man
I have always felt this way during the shooter drills,however, I would like you to expand on the church as an institution for pasification. There are lots of sects that preach itemization,however, in my experience, they preach the necessity of masculinity in the modern age
Sure thing. Many churches focus on a man being a 'good man’, but pay little heed to him being 'good at being a man'. Being a 'good man' is a philosophical ideal based on living the higher moral virtues. While being ‘good at being a man’ is an anthropological reality based on performing the three pillars of manliness competently (protect, provide, and procreate). This focus on promoting the 'good man' has, over time, made Christian men more sensitive & gentle, but also (dare I say) timid & effeminized. There's no doubt a balance to be struck here- that is, sensitivity and gentleness are valuable attributes to incorporate into our nature, but must, in my opinion, be equally balanced with attributes of a stronger nature- such as steadfast strength, heroism, and resolved will. There's a Scottish-born Baptist minister from the 1800s named Alexander Maclaren whose sermons cover this well. If possible, try and find a copy of the sermon he preached at Union Chapel in Manchester, England in 1872. It's epic.
All of this is simply my opinion of course, from decades in the church, years of working at church camps, and having a Methodist minister for a father. I think church is important though, and I think more men should incorporate it into their (and their family's) lives. Surely some churches are not effeminizing their parishioners. And that's great. But some certainly are. Which, imo, isn't great. But I'm not alone in noticing such things. See John Eldredge's "Wild at Heart" or Mike Yarbrough's "Tending the Fire", both of which are excellent. Hope that clarifies some things!
@ManvsHistory, thanks,this would make an interesting vido,however youtube probably wouldn't like it
Excellent video!!
I'm loving these types of videos man 👍
I think for a man to be courageous is much more important and is commonly overlook by men thinking they need to be violent. Violence, although necessary is not natural. PTSD exists for this very reason. Men don't want to be violent, they want to be capable. Being capable in the situation you describe could mean defending yourself violently (as necessary) but also it could mean reacting quickly and courageously to step up and lead the innocent or those incapable out the back door to safety, or barricading them in a safe area while you distract the active shooter. I agree with your explanation overall, but many men who here this mantra of "men should be violent" that has been repeated by those who they consider in intellectual positions, usually only hear the first part of the saying and ignore the second part. I highly advise reading about Audie Murphy, a man of great courage who unfortunately had to use necessary violence which is a distinct difference in just being violent. Thanks for the video, definitely something to think about.
I recently finished a book on Murphy (couple months back), titled "Against All Odds", and it was excellent. He was an amazing warrior, but the weight of his experiences (PTSD) definitely changed him forever, both during and after the war. Being a controlled, but dangerous man with the capacity (and capability) to use violence for good, when necessary, is important. But it's certainly not all men should strive for. But it is the limited subject of this video, which I think most folks understand.
As you mentioned, courage should also be cultivated, as it's one of the most treasured virtues among men throughout history (along with others, such as strength, honor, mastery, industry, etc). Proficiency, strength, and experience can provide confidence in various scenarios which might require courage, but there's certainly other factors that can manifest courage... but that's a whole separate topic to unpack.
As for whether violence is natural or not, I tend to hold a different view, but I understand your perspective and think it's rational. I think back to early human encounters with violence, from hunting large ungulates unkindly disposed to us, to defending carcasses from predators, to quarreling with other tribes over range and resources. I believe that violence was present, and a natural part of this life. I'm not saying we mentally/ emotionally were unaffected by it (I can't help but think we were), but I wonder if our experience of it was different due to the circumstances?... That is, hunting for food. Defending food and resources for survival. Consistent exposure to the often violent cycle of life, etc. I also wonder about the difference in killing technology both wielded and used against Audie Murphy, compared to humans hundreds of thousands of years ago... and the psychological impact of that... such as Audie's friends being minced by machine gun fire and vaporized by artillery. Perhaps we're more effected by conflicts with humans than we are with animals? Lots to explore there. Thanks for the comment!
Well spoken
So we'll said thank you
Can you link the researches that you quote in the video? That would be appreciated
Great advice brother
Thank you, Douglas! Appreciate that!
"If you're not capable of violence, you're not peaceful...you're just harmless" - Preach it, my brother!
Ha! You bet, brother. There’s no virtue in harmlessness- but there is in peacefulness. The other day I heard a different, reinterpreted translation of Jesus’ famous statement that “the meek shall inherit the earth.” This translation is something more akin to “those who have swords and know how to use them but keep them sheathed shall inherit the earth.” Interesting shift, and something to ponder if it’s a more accurate translation.
They started doing this in the UK now for some reason too. I finished college a year ago, but was there one of them. I pointed out with a friend to the tutors that an mdf table would do fuck all to protect is if we were getting shot at. I suggested that we would be better of rushing an armed attacker as 1 person wouldn't be able to shoot 30 at the same time. For this comment, we were told that if we weren't going to take it seriously we would be temporarily excluded and and given a warning on our college records. It's absolutely nuts that the only strategy for this is hiding and getting shot at like fish in a barrel.
Exactly. If in the classroom the protocol was to simply shut the lights off and all huddle up in the corner, and again, hope that nothing happened. So much wrong with that.
Fascinating
I couldnt agree more
For me it's strange to hear that you 'only had four campus polica' on campus. I'm going to a campus here in Sweden at the moment and we don't have any campus police and I've never heard of any violence or crime at the campus. I think something is broken from the beginning if that's even needed. Not saying that there's no risk for violence but it's just so unthinkable. I've hardly ever even seen a fight even if I was out drinking a lot in my youth. Sure there's always a good thing to be prepared for the worst. As you know you can't carry weapons here and it's mainly just hunters and poliecemen that has weapons here in Sweden. Not saying that we do everything right because Sweden is in many ways a weird little country. haha. But it seems like America is a much more violent place and I don't really know why that is.
You guys keep absorbing the rest of the world's er, "scraps" like you are, you'll find out what it's like the live in the U.S. real soon.
Sweden has 10.4 million people, the US has 332 million.
Sweden's crime rate in 2019 was 15,064 per 100,000 citizens.
in the US, the 2019 crime rate was 381 per 100,000 citizens.
Per capita, the US is much safer.
According to Statista, anyways.
I mean the whole thing was built ground up through violence and inhumane conditions and was continued as such until not so long ago. It'll take a whole lotta time to fix that, if it doesn't all collapse in itself first
Malmo.
I'll go rhythm
Exactly! as Dr Jordan Peterson said, "a harmless man is not a good man, a good man is a very, very dangerous man who has that under voluntary control." I think its so important as a man to be capable in any situation, I want to be able to walk into a room and know I'm the biggest, smartest guy there, and if something went down I could protect the people I'm with. something else I want to touch on is physicality, throughout history it has been a very important trait in men, if our ancestors were getting attacked by a wild animal they would stand up and make loud noises and try to appear as big as possible to scare away the threat. and in the modern day that can be translated into working out and having visible muscles, think about it, if you're walking alone at night for example and you look like a strong guy, you are less of a target to potential attackers. I'm not saying you have to look massive like a powerlifter, but having noticeable muscle definition and having the strength and skills to back that up could stop a fight before it even starts.
also I find the topic of gun control an interesting debate, people often say that guns should be banned as if that would fix the problem, but like you said in the video they are just tools, if I were to smash someone's head in with a hammer should all hammers be banned? of course not! unfortunately firearms are heavily restricted here in the UK so its not possible to casually go to a shooting range, but I definitely agree that it would be a good skill to have.
finally I want to talk about school shootings, I've heard it argued by feminists that "toxic masculinity" is the cause of these kinds of violent attacks, but I think its the opposite, modern men are told to be weak and act on their emotions, and its acting on those emotions that causes violent outbursts. rather than being told to cry more and talk about our feelings, I think schools should teach philosophy classes about stoicism, and teach boys to recognise, but still control their emotions, and to let them out in a healthy way like martial arts and boxing.
I have so much to say on these kind of topics but this is kinda starting to feel like an essay (which is ironic since writing an essay like that in a college would get you expelled for having a "harmful ideology"). keep up the videos I'm loving this new direction of the channel.
Thanks for the response, Thomas! Yeah, the physicality you mention is often called 'threat display'. I actually discuss it in one of the modules of my men's program. Simply looking strong, regardless of whether you actually are or aren’t, is a physical advertisement that you’re a formidable man. In short, men will respond to you more respectfully, and hold you in higher esteem, if you look like you could kick their ass. Of course muscularity doesn’t necessarily make one a good fighter- but it does, ironically, help deter fights in the first place, thanks to one’s appearance as a formidable opponent. Of course if one develops true strength, and couples it with technique (martial arts, etc), they're the real deal. And that's something we should all strive for.
I concur with your other perspectives as well. Thanks for chiming in, brother!
Ooh, someone is a jordan peterson fan
Agree
Can anyone provide a link to that german study? I did not quite catch the name of the Author.
Dr. Irenäus Eibl-Eibesfeldt. I believe it's in his book, 'Human Ethology', though I originally came across it in Dr. Randall Eaton's "From Boys to Men of Heart".
@@ManvsHistory thanks a lot!
@@user-ve5ei2xe8h You bet! If you can find Eaton's book (no longer in print) I strongly recommend that you purchase and read it. One of my absolute favorites. I interviewed him on the channel over a year ago. Awesome dude.
Might just be the best thing a 21 year old college man could hear at this very moment. Thank you MvH
Hey mvh I know you stoped playing red dead but I was wondering if you can make a historically accurate fisherman outfit guide btw great video
Great stuff man
The only major problem I have with this assessment is that you (seem to) expect only men to be "dangerous" as you put it. Women should also be capable of defending themselves and be as effective in that as they can be. I would also suspect we have 2 very different reasons why we feel men should be trained for "violence" as you put it, which doesn't pertain too much to this topic.
Very good video bud!! Keep them coming!
Reminds me of some Jordan Peterson Philosophy lol
Might just be me but I have loves seeing this Chanel transform from fascinating history/RDR2 content to these incredible philosiphcal videos
Modern humans in general are very quick to have someone else or a governing body be the protectors of society. It has not gotten us far. People, men in particular must be the protectors and guardians of what they hold dear. The absence of this societal attitude is one of the reasons why community, familial structure and masculine norms have been eroded away.
Thith ith eckthellent!
Do you have a dog named Ruckus?
Jordan Peterson said this once, something about a dangerous man is a good man with his danger under voluntary control. I absolutely agree. It’s why carrying just makes sense to me, it’s not there because I want to kill someone, it’s there to defend myself and others from someone who wants to hurt us.
I carry a firearm wherever I go. I literally NEVER leave home without it.
I pray to god that I never have to use it. But I won’t hesitate to use it to defend the lives of my wife, kids and myself.
Seems like this could be applied to anyone, not just a man.
Thanks for this gem of a video
Great content as usual. I really like the talks about masculinity 👍
Ha! Thanks brother! Love your handle, btw.
I totally agree with you here unfortunately for me I live in the uk so its a lot harder to purchase a firearm. and if you did use it here you would probably end up like Anthony Martin
I just looked that up,he went to jail for shooting a burglar even tho he didn't have a firearm license pretty stupid and unfair to put him in jail
Luckily I live in Texas
No problems here
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Yeah, in the UK you'll want to focus on the other two options!
Throwing knives! 🍻
Seems like a lot of people on here are from America well you will know the film Braveheart William Wallace I am Scottish I believe in respot unfortunately the true reality of Scotland these days are people here are mostly snowflakes lightweights they are too busy with more oestrogen in their body and more relying on their comforts and conveniences and use the excuse of I am too old or I am injured or one thing or another well if I can do it at my age and show people age is just a number if I can do these things were completely washing my eyesight and did remain determined to raise enough funds or awareness to get my eyesight the store and be as good of a role model and spray see Nan and motivational person for people in other people can do it there is no excuse you can do it people you just need to man up and stop being afraid of the politically correct indoctrination nonsense you are hearing from big corporations media and I like it is nothing wrong there is nothing wrong with masculinity and testosterone nothing at all as long as you treat people with love and kindness and be as good as you can be only use your strengths and your knowledge and power when you need to defend yourself or in competition people time to quiet shut up and man up lol
A Scotsman! Welcome, brother. My family's originally from Luss, on Loch Lomond. So what's going on over there in Scotland, Jay? I've heard bits and pieces on the news about it here in the US. Just went super woke then?
Maybe the best thing we should do is instead of trying to defend ourselves against dangerous people, we should try to change society so these dangerous people don't develop. This all starts in the home which is reflective of the systems snd traditions of that society
Personally? I don’t believe the police should come to your house to protect you. They should be a body bag delivery service after I put two into some guy breaking into my house
I think if you break into a home you’re fair game. That should be the law. I don’t know or care what your intentions are, and I’m not waiting to find out.
Jordan Peterson talks about the bible quote "Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth." It's his theory that this is a mistranslation and it's something more like "Blessed are those with sheathed swords, for they will inherit the earth." He has also said that the weak cannot be virtuous. I completely agree. A civilized dangerous man is the only thing that can stop an uncivilized one and while he might lose that contest, he certainly won't be a victim.
Absolutely. It's funny, I mentioned the 'sheathed swords' translation to another person in the comments yesterday. I'd love to see JP dive deeper into that. Awesome stuff.
@@ManvsHistory Yeah for sure, his ability to articulate these concepts are next level. But I'd say you do an excellent job too, you do it in a very accessible way for the average person to parse and understand. I've been watching your videos since the Mountain Man RDO stuff and it's really cool to see you transition to covering very real and pertinent topics. I grew up without a father past the age of 9 and since then I've had to cobble one together from the writings of the great men of history, philosophers, modern thinkers and videos on RUclips. Trust me when I say that this kind of content is very much needed and appreciated. Thank you for your hard work and please keep it up!
@@cuthred116 I appreciate that, Cuthred! Thank you. Based upon your reference to JP, it seems to me that you've managed to cobble together some solid guidance. If only all fatherless men could find such mentors...
The correct title: The Importance of Being a Defensive Man
Being strong is just like conceal carrying. You are doing something the average guy isn't and thus gives you an advantage.
Second note... I teach my kids to run away from a fight unless they are protecting others or are cornered. Once cornered, make them regret they ever started it.
I highly recommend Judo. Traditional Judo is great from standing or ground positions. Street fighting is best not done on the ground.
Jordan Peterson says you should be a monster. A monster with self control.
I agree. I heard him speak in Denver back in 2018/19. He's a good man.
@@bafelix89 I’m familiar with that interview! If I remember correctly, he’s pointing out the complications involved with sexual signals in the workplace. Rouge (or blush) intentionally mimics physiological displays of fertility in women (flushed cheeks). Lipstick mimics increased blood flow in the lips, present during sexual arousal. High heels adjusts posture to enhance a woman’s bust size (and also impacts calves and behind). JP doesn’t (again, if memory serves me correctly) say they shouldn’t be allowed, but rather that there should be a discussion on how the freedom to display such signals coexist with simultaneous training about sexual harassment in the workplace. Don’t get me wrong- it doesn’t excuse sexual harassment in the workplace, but there’s lots of layers to this… biology, evolution, freedom, etc.
@@bafelix89 Yeah, somehow this conversation just went from 1 to 11. Hmmm… As a historian who has written about sexual signals and pair bonding in early humans I think it’s an ‘interesting’ conversation due to the biological/historical/ anthropological angles. It’s something that’s been discussed by reputable evolutionary biologists as well, because they too found it interesting. It doesn’t mean we agree with the premise, but bounce around the idea for the sake of intellectual exercise/ exploration. But if you feel so strongly about JP or his ideas then I suggest you let him know. Or just be at peace that there’s folks out there in the world who hold different opinions and perspectives. Either way, I wish you the best, Brock.
@@bafelix89 Yeah, have to disagree with you here. I simply see things very differently. As for my channel I’m going to stay my course. But if that’s not a journey you’re interested in coming along on I understand and I wish you the best.
@@bafelix89 I'm very curious about your beliefs regarding the freedoms of speech and expression protected by the First Amendment of the Constitution. Those are the freedoms that let people bring "harmful ideologies" to the table, they also protect your right leave comments expressing your own ideas. Nobody lets anybody's ideology go unchallenged in 2023. I would like to point out that JP is a strong supporter of those freedoms and your right to challenge his beliefs.
I love these masculinity videos, MVH!
An armed society is a safe society, and that includes schools.
Andrew Arrabito (Navy SEAL) and I had this conversation in our interview that's posted on the channel. If you haven't listened, I definitely recommend you check it out.