System Dynamics and Control: Module 27b - Choosing State Variables

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  • Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025

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  • @arguspanoptes1469
    @arguspanoptes1469 3 года назад +10

    That was the best and most clear intro to State Variable representation.!! If I understand it then everybody in this planet will do as well. I've watched many other videos, ending up more confused, frustrated and pissed off. Well done Dr Hill for your contribution, I will have a big bier for you!!

  • @andruha1067
    @andruha1067 8 лет назад +15

    You make this stuff so intuitive. I love it. Before your lectures I couldn't really grasp how transfer functions and state space could represent the same thing. Also, you make the process of putting the DE's into state-space form so systematic so that it becomes almost effortless to do it. Huge thanks.

  • @BoZhaoengineering
    @BoZhaoengineering 4 года назад +19

    your video is understandable. I was introduced here by MATLAB video of state space

    • @worshipgod4202
      @worshipgod4202 10 месяцев назад

      I'm also from matlab video 😂

  • @danielakanji8551
    @danielakanji8551 2 года назад +1

    Good work Rick, this video helped me a lot. Thanks

  • @sherevanalhamy9898
    @sherevanalhamy9898 7 лет назад +4

    Thanks so so much. I finally understand this concept.

  • @mohammedhammad2113
    @mohammedhammad2113 5 лет назад +1

    we should be able to give a super like!! Thank you so much, Sir! Great explanation.

  • @kowyo
    @kowyo Год назад +1

    Thank you so much for the video!

  • @happyhippr
    @happyhippr 8 лет назад +2

    this is a great lecture.. thank you very much.. saved me much time & mental frustration..

  • @LoganLovell
    @LoganLovell 5 лет назад +1

    absolute king. thank you

  • @abdelz1617
    @abdelz1617 2 года назад +1

    Great video, thank you so much!

  • @kksal4375
    @kksal4375 7 лет назад +1

    Very helpful.... I'm very thankful for it

  • @MrTjengo
    @MrTjengo 6 лет назад +1

    Great explanation, thank you!

  • @andrewvictor1489
    @andrewvictor1489 4 года назад +3

    If l connect a dc motor to a certain electric circuit ; can l suppose this motor be an energy storage element ?

    • @hillrickc
      @hillrickc  4 года назад +3

      Yes, you can. Specifically, if you assume a standard model of the DC motor, energy will be stored in the mechanical inertia of the motor as well as in the inductance of the motor. Therefore, you would need two state variables to model the DC motor.

    • @andrewvictor1489
      @andrewvictor1489 4 года назад +2

      @@hillrickc yeah l get it one state for inductance of motor (La) and the second state for mechanical inertia (J ) ; thanks so much , sir

  • @joshuawallace1065
    @joshuawallace1065 4 года назад +3

    Hey Rick,
    Could you expand a little more on why some using the minimum number of state variables may not be able to express the equation?
    Is this something that will happen in the output state equation?

  • @trueroughly1691
    @trueroughly1691 4 года назад +1

    so the main difference between the modern control theory and the classical control theory is that for the modern control system we look the system from the energy point of view, but the classical control system we look the system from the "raw" physics DE point of view?
    we massage DE to the form that has a minimum set of variables that describe the whole system.
    I get that if we use this method we can decrease the number of variables. is this why we use this method?
    If so then is this method always preferred?

  • @IvanDwiO
    @IvanDwiO 3 года назад

    from the results of the spring and damper equation, how to find the eigenvalue and eigenvalue?

  • @amirhosseindavazdahemami7268
    @amirhosseindavazdahemami7268 5 лет назад +1

    thank u so much

  • @yomama78ify
    @yomama78ify 4 года назад +2

    how did you determine what goes in the C matrix?

    • @hillrickc
      @hillrickc  4 года назад +2

      The C matrix is determined by the system's output. The output employed in the model is a choice of the engineer/analyst. What is it you are trying to control? What variable do you want to analyze the response of? Consider a DC motor. You could desire to control its position, its speed, or its torque, for example.

  • @ghanshyamshinde6007
    @ghanshyamshinde6007 Год назад

    Sir, Is 3 the minimum number of state variables?
    As the system is 2nd order
    I can able represent its dynamics using only two states
    x1 = y-z
    x2 = ydot-zdot
    x1dot = x2
    x2dot = (1/m1+1/m2)*(bx2+kx1) + u/m2
    Is it right?

    • @hillrickc
      @hillrickc  Год назад

      For your set of variables, you would not be able to determine the "state" of the system because you can't distinguish between the kinetic energy stored in mass1 and the kinetic energy stored in mass2.

  • @ProgramIT-p1v
    @ProgramIT-p1v Год назад

    why is m1*y"" positive in equation? It should be opposite of damper and sprig force.

  • @Aguvika
    @Aguvika 8 лет назад +1

    Dow it mater if X =(y-z) or X=(z-y) procived we are consistent throughout our formulation??

    • @hillrickc
      @hillrickc  8 лет назад +1

      No, it doesn't matter. It is important to remember that the state-space representation of a system is not unique.

    • @Aguvika
      @Aguvika 8 лет назад +1

      ahh ok, thanks!!!! I thought so.

    • @israrullah791
      @israrullah791 7 лет назад

      AGUVIKA can you have module 1 of rick hill?

  • @jayeshbalpande3894
    @jayeshbalpande3894 4 года назад

    hello sir where i can find lecture series of 23 ,24,25 of
    yous

  • @Robson-dh3un
    @Robson-dh3un 6 лет назад

    Thanks !
    And if the outputs where Y and Z ? How would it be to describe the output matrix ?
    Thanks

    • @hillrickc
      @hillrickc  6 лет назад +3

      If desired to have Y and Z as outputs, then you would need to choose a set of state variables that allows them to be separated, such as our original choice. In that case, the output matrix would have two rows. One for the equation for an output of Y and the other for the equation for an output of Z.

  • @calvinpinto7369
    @calvinpinto7369 6 лет назад

    what if z is the asked outtput??

  • @muhammadomarkhayyamkhan3593
    @muhammadomarkhayyamkhan3593 2 года назад

    Need to drive equation !!! Not explain equations 😊