The Homestuck Iceberg EXPLAINED
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- The moment I saw the Homestuck Iceberg, I knew this video would be the next thing on my channel. After countless hours of tireless work, here we are. This was very much a passion project for me, and I'm so happy to be sharing it with you all now.
I know I gave a special thanks to everyone who helped out at the end, but once again, I'd like to give them all a shoutout. If I gave you anyone's twitter handle in this video, they're worth a follow.
@LHuxlux
@miomancer
@PudinDiPreda
@p0werzzzzz
@joojada325
@gamicAbsinthism
@wifiboyfriend
@itsMasonAmadeus
@Quurlybug
@ColinMparker
@xamag_ve
SONG LIST (IN ORDER OF APPEARANCE)
Homestuck Anthem- Clark “Plazmataz” Powell- Homestuck Volume 5
John’s Theme ("sometimes i call andrew hussie 'andy' and so far he hasn't corrected me")-James Roach- Pesterquest
Hussie Hunt-Malcolm Brown-Homestuck Volume 8
How Do I Live (Bunny Back In The Box Version)-Michael Guy Bowman, guitar solo by Nick Smalley-Homestuck Volume 5
MeGaLoVania-Toby "Radiation" Fox, Joren "Tensei" de Bruin- Homestuck Volume 6: Heir Transparent
Vriska’s Theme-Toby “:Radiation” Fox-Alterniabound
Tribal Ebonpyre-Erik "Jit" Scheele, Toby "Radiation" Fox-Homestuck Volume 6: Heir Transparent
Davesprite-Toby “Radiation” Fox-Homestuck Volume 8
Sburban Jungle-Michael Guy Bowman-Homestuck Volume 4
Pony Chorale-Michael Guy Bowman-Homestuck Volume 3
Pumpkin Party in Sea Hitler's Water Apocalypse-Malcolm Brown-Homestuck Volume 9
Throguh Song-Toby “Radiation” Fox-The Baby is You: An Opera
Dissention (Remix)-David Ko-Homestuck Volume 3
We Didn’t Start The Fire (Karaoke Mix)-Billy Joel-Storm Front
You Can't Fight the Homestuck-Kylee Henke, WalkingandDead
Descend-Toby “Radiation” Fox-Homestuck Volume 5
Bonetrousle (Trailer)-Toby “Radiation” Fox-Undertale OST
Nillili Mambo-Block B-Blockbuster
English-Toby “Radiation” Fox-The Felt
Joey Claire, Extraordinaire- James Roach, Toby “Radiation” Fox-Hiveswap Act 1 OST
Dance of Thorns-Joren "Tensei" de Bruin-Strife!
Ascend-Joren “Tensei” de Bruin-Homestuck Volume 10
Hate You-Toby “Radiation” Fox-Homestuck Volume 9
Let's Read A Webcomic ~ You're Welcome (Andrew's Theme)-Toby “Radiation” Fox-Homestuck Sound Test
Trickster Mode (Blast Off)-Toby “Radiation” Fox- Homestuck Sound Test
Spazzmatica Polka-Kevin MacLeod-Polka! Polka! Polka!
dESPERADO ROCKET CHAIRS,-Toby “Radiation” Fox-Alternia
Flare-Clark "Plazmataz" Powell-Homestuck Volume 8
iRRRRRRRRECONCILABLE-Michael Guy Bowman,Thomas Ferkol-Homestuck Volume 9
Upward Movement (Dave Owns)-Robert Blaker-Homestuck Volume 2
An Unbreakable Union-Robert Blaker-Homestuck Volume 5
A Baby Legend: The Baby is 2-Toby “Radiation” Fox(?), cool and new music team-Homestuck Volume 11
Battle Tower Theme-Toby “Radiation” Fox-Pokemon Sword&Shield OST
BL1ND JUST1C3: 1NV3ST1G4T1ON !!-Malcolm Brown-Alterniabound
Liquid Negrocity-Toby “Radiation” Fox-Midnight Crew:Drawing Dead
Karkat’s Theme-James Roach-Pesterquest
Cascade (Beta)-Joren “Tensei” de Bruin-Homestuck Volume 8
iCarly Theme midi-Original by Miranda Cosgrove, Drake Bell
Elevatorstuck-Joren “Tensei” de Bruin-Homestuck Volume 6:Heir Transparent
Another Jungle-Michael Guy Bowman-Homestuck Volume 9
Doctor-George Buzinkai-Homestuck Volume 4
Penumbra Phantasm (Piano)-Toby “Radiation” Fox
Run to You-Pentatonix
Eternity Served Cold-Malcom Brown-Cherubim
Calamity-Michael Guy Bowman-Homestuck Volume 8
[S] ACT 6 ACT 6 (Can’t find info on this ANYWHERE)
Duel of the Fates Midi-Original By John Williams for Star Wars
WSW/Beatdown-Erik 'Jit' Scheele,Curt Blakeslee-Homestuck Volume 7:At the Price of Oblivion
The Carnival-Erik 'Jit' Scheele, Mark Hadley-Homestuc Volume 7:At the Price of Oblivion
Black Rose, Green Sun-Malcolm Brown-Homestuck Volume 7:At the Price of Oblivion
Oppa Toby Style-Toby “Radiation” Fox-Collide
Rex English-Toby “Radiation” Fox-Homestuck Sound Test
Also, here are some helpful links:
www.homestuck....
homestuck.net/
bambosh.github...
mspaintadventu...
blog.giovanh.c...
/ remember_lads_hussie_d...
I like to think that my editing of this video somewhat mirrors Homestuck itself, which is to say that it gets better the longer you stick with it. I only realized when I was watching the final product how differently I edited the beginning compared to the end.
Find me on Twitter @Cals_Calzones and find my other projects on scavengersnetwork.com or on their RUclips channel!
Alright ima do some time stamps(and i will edit the heck out of it if i get it wrong on something, pls tell me if i do)
Act 01*
2:55 413
3:15 "Skip To The Trolls"
3:39 Typing Quirks
4:08 Andrew Hussie
4:46 Nic Cage
5:54 Tumblr
6:46 Voxus
6:59 MSPA
7:20 MeGaLoVania
7:48 > Commands
8:24 612
8:38 Vriska
9:42 WP Games
10:03 SBAHJ
Actually fuck it, ima complete this lol
Act 02*
10:54 Toby "Radiation" Fox
11:21 Books
11:54 Flash
12:35 Octopimp
13:26 Homestuck Beta
13:45 Newgrounds Crash
14:29 Music Team
14:58 Paradox Space
15:18 10/25
15:41 The Bucket Video
16:20 The Baby Is You
Act3*
16:48 Sharpie Bath
17:27 MSPA Forums
18:09 The Panty Raid
18:54 You Can't Fight The Homestuck
19:29 Formspring
19:55 Problem Sleuth
20:21 Epilogues
21:06 Undertale
21:41 Toblerone
22:22 Gigapause
22:54 Mambostuck
23:10 Grey Body Paint
Intermission*
23:52 Hs^2
24:36 Hiveswap
25:24 AraKneea
25:43 March Eridan
26:04 Kickstarter
27:24 Real Life Cal
27:35 MSPFA
27:53 Snapchat
28:22 Betty Crocker
29:01 Hs Soundtest
29:42 Caucasian
Act 04*
30:58 Dante Basco
31:50 SBAHJ Origins
32:21 Tavros Doll
32:53 Retcon
33:40 Scrapped Beta Kid Designs
33:58 Extended Zodiac
34:38 Canon Trollsonas
35:23 The Blog Of Dave Strider
Act 05 Act 01*
35:49 Bill Bolin
36:20 The Baby Is 2
37:11 Sarah Z
38:11 Cancelled MC Walkaround
38:35 Slurs
39:15 The Odd Gentleman
39:51 Bro is Abusive
40:42 Cascade Beta
41:05 Weird Shipping
42:43 WP Discourse
Act 05 Act 02*
43:36 Viz Ruined Homestuck.com
44:16 Low Quality Flashes
44:37 TUHSC
45:12 Namco High
45:38 KGTAC
46:00 Discord Raids
46:37 Heinoustuck
47:03 Skyrim Troll Aphabet
Act 06 Act 01*
47:26 Cool and New Webcomic
48:00 George Buzinkai
48:27 Sugoi Quest for Kokoro
49:01 "Hussie Hated Feferi's Typing Quirk"
49:41 Ikea Cosplayers
50:01 Big Mouth Edits
50:15 Joey And Elwurd
50:43 Hussie Is 0 Conspiracy
Act 06 Act 06 Act 01*
51:18 Penumbra Phantasm
51:43 Run To You
52:12 John Karkat
52:40 Chad Buskin
53:01 Snoop Dogg Fanart
53:23 Kanayaphobia
53:41 Catholic Vriska
54:15 Boobstuck Incident
54:38 Gio
55:07 "Tavros Was A Chaser"
Act 07*
55:34 Homestuck Reddit
55:53 Homestuck 2.0
56:16 Skaianet Lore
57:04 Hussie's Mails To The HS Discord
57:59 Mayonaka
58:24 "Hussie Almost Got Into Crypto"
58:57 Troubled Cosmos
59:18 "That Deranged Phoebe Person"
59:50 Beekeeper
1:00:09 Brazilian Jake
1:00:24 Hussie's Instagram
1:00:38 BNHA Signless Dub
1:00:57 Fantroll Black Market
1:01:46 Lost Media
1:02:11 Time Travaler Gamzee Cosplayer
1:02:34 Wizard Malware
Epilogues*
1:02:58 Homestuck Refences In Adventure Time
1:03:24 Piss Aspect
1:03:53 Hiveswap 3D Build
1:04:12 Jake Harley Controlled Hitler
Anyways that's it, sorry i didn't finish it at first
i know i already said it on twitter but you are TRULY the best, thank you!
Legendary, m8 👍🏿
Broadway Karkat not being put on the iceberg is insane
like cmon you cant just ignore GFDI Dave like that
Yeah why is there no KARKALICIOUS DEFINITION
That should qualify as a crime
Death penalty worthy
I like how when you go to the homestuck website the button simply says “Read Homestuck”, sitting in the middle of the page and staring you right in the face. As if you’re about to make a major life decision. Your final chance to not read Homestuck.
Homestuck is basically a cult
Yea basically
I hate, yet find hilarious that the iCarly cast really is the best descriptor for troll romance, especially Freddy and Sam.
Also about the Bro is abusive part, it was also implied that Bro made it difficult for Dave to even get food or drinks
yeah its stated pretty early in that if he wanted food he had to hide it in his closet, I noticed that one on my reread and its pretty fucked up
I mean if you read Dave’s route in pesterquest it’s not so much implied as outright stated iirc
Am I the only one who found it really strange that the comic asks us to take all of that abuse seriously, while at the same time not acknowledging any number of other equally messed up things in the story, which nonetheless are played for laughs because they are so absurd? I will never be able to see all of what Dave went through as anything but a joke and everything after retcon but before epilogues as generally incongruent. A large part of the reason is that no one in real life could ever be subjected to ninja puppet shadow fights involving swords and whatnot, because it is so outrageous. To do so would, to me, cheapen ACTUAL, real abuse that people go through in our world
@@sofielundsskolan I don't know. There's something about a fucked up situation, played for laughs, only to later be shown to really negatively affect the victim that could help people recognize abuse that happens to them and people around them.
I may be wrong because I never been in a seriously abusive situation (to my knowledge), but I dealt with depression and shitty situations, and when in the midst of it, I always felt things were kinda... normal, only recognizing a lot of it as tragic after the fact.
Also he would literally ambush him in the middle of the night just for trying to go to the bathroom
the more i learn about homestuck history the more i wish was born a few years earlier so i could have been part of the fandom from the beginning
it's never too late! I started reading it at the end of act 5. there's still a pretty active fan base nowadays too on discord, Twitter, and reddit
@@CalsCalzones i mean ive read it a few times and im part of the fandom. i just wish i couldve been there when it happened
@@saylemevelyn I get that! when I caught up it was right before cascade. would you be interested in seeing a video about the culture of the time when it was still releasing?
@@CalsCalzones oh yeah, that would be a really cool video! i like knowing fandom history, and the homestuck fandom was WILD.
@@saylemevelyn ill put it on the idea board!
Man, I'm realizing that ANY video about Homestuck seems like an iceberg because of how complex and deep it is.
About Heinoustuck, I'm actually in the official Heinoustuck server with the og creator! They're still updating but they're also doing a massive overhaul of most things, including the troll designs.
that's so cool! is the server open to the public? I'd love to come in and chat with the creator for my follow up vid
>:O YES
they're actually still working on heinoustuck after all these years? that's so cool
Ayo??? That's actually fantastic!!
I'm really glad that homestuck content is still around, even tho most people left the Fandom.
Oh you never leave its like just going dormant
Yeah I always go “omg hs pfp” whenever I see one, even at AnimeExpo in the artists alley there was a Roxy print and I freaked out and told my friend “LOOK THERES A HOMESTUCK RIGHT THERE.”
==>_Reawaken.
As someone who could NEVER finish I'm happy it helps me learn
left? nah, we never left. we're here living our calm adult lives until we hear that music again
I've honestly wanted to ask this question for while: What is actually wrong with Hussie? Guy spends years of his live writing a comic and building up his fame only to disregard it by selling it to Viz media and then give a bunch of hacks complete authority to write whatever the hell they want about his story. Now whenever he adds anything to Homestuck it's always to piss off the fans and make them hate the story even more.
Compare him to Toby for example:
Guy spends years making a game, it gets insanely popular and gets a bunch of money and fame from it, his community loves him. Then he stops making games for years and comes back with another game for which he's getting even more praise for and will eventually make more money from it.
Toby "Radiation" Fox has an arguably better career and success than Hussie nowadays.
Hussie seems to have more contempt for their fans seeing what they inputted in the epilogues/homestuck 2. A lot of stuff seems to be mean spirited towars the fans, making fun of them for caring about homestuck. Otherwise theyre known to be kind of an ass to whatpumpkin employees. Sarahz made an excellent video on it
Hussie has always and will always fucking hate his fans
What's wrong with him is a really good question, but he Does fucking hate you for liking it
@@gameygeemer4142 Yeah I guessed as much seeing as how the epilogues completely butchered the characters.
toby and hussie are the calliope and caliborn of the homestuck fandom (minus caliborn's misogyny and such)
He is a troll that got power so he uses it to laugh at the ones who got him where he is now
I really wanna show this to someone who hasn't seen homestuck because to an outsider this probably sounds batshit crazy
especially with the background images lol
it does.
i never heard of it untill now im 10 mins in and its pretty boringso far but i live a extrema lifestyle online so its going to be very very rare to shock me maybe my opinions will change later in the video
Outsider here and the only thing I know about going into this is the trolls. So watching this is batshit crazy but in a way that I can’t look away cause it just keeps going
Outsider here! I watched one of my exs read homestuck on twitch up to page 600 or something like that so I have no idea what I'm in for
one rumor that lives in my head rent free is that when contacted about when the next homestuck book is coming out, a viz media representative said that the series is done and that there are "six books for six acts"
This video is so underrated!! It's the quality I'd expect from a video with 500,000 views, not 700
so kind of you to say! I have some ideas for more Homestuck content so stay tuned!
@@CalsCalzones :D
There was also the point in Hiveswap act 1 where Joey runs into her dad's (Jake Harley) collection and also gets flustered. Indicating that Joey might have similar taste as her dad. So when they introduced a cerulean-blooded troll called Elwurd there were expectations (which didn't disappoint)
Ohhhh that’s why Jake had a crush on aranea (the cerulean thing)
On the Vriska argument: She's a horrible person, she may have helped a lot, but she is fucking terrible. She is basically the very definition of anti-hero, and in her own words, "You don't have to be a good person to be a hero."
"thou shalt not paralyze a sweet boy by throwing him off a cliff" will be in my brain forever now. thank you
So Snoop Dogg is, in fact aware of Homestuck, due to someone drawing fanart of both Nepeta and Meulin wearing matching weed bikinis on either side of Snoop Dogg in 2015.
yeah, thats exactly the fanart in this video. hes never outright said that he knows where the characters are from though.
I do sometimes wish I had gotten into Homestuck during it's height instead of near it's end because of Undertale
it was okay. the forums were neat, tumblr was pretty active. there was a lot of interest and speculation that seemed to evaporate overnight.
It was chaos. I wasn't reading live for like cascade but for a lot of the part 6 and onwards. What really made it was the fan reaction or really fast cosplay.
Nice to know that in an alternate universe a whole wave of transmen and nonbinary people would be calling themselves Chad.
B33 < I WASS ALMOSST CHAD. I WASS ALMOSST FUCKING CHAD.
No one seems to have mentioned this but the beekeeper troll was scrapped partly because the artist drew some inappropriate art to reveal the troll's sign. The artist claimed Andrew gave her permission to do it, but it seems to be due to a misunderstanding. The team quickly backpedaled and the artist was kicked out.
I would like to add that Snoop Dogg actually DOES know about homestuck! He tagged #homestuck in a comment about that fanart a while ago.
the icarly thing is so genius i immediately understood everything lmao
I'm both impressed and shocked that "The Baby is 2" has breached so far out of the canmt bubble that it's now Homestuck iceberg material. and it's not the very bottom. what kind of nightmare world am I living in
it's certainly come full circle
Truly Caliborn's masterpiece is complete
Holy shit, bro. I've never read Homestuck and yet it keeps showing up in my recommended. Sounds like a wild ride.
it is. buckle in.
So glad to have helped! This turned out so so well! I feel really nostalgic about some of this haha
honestly me too. might be time for a reread!
actually glad that all of these topics were handled with care! i dont often comment on videos but this was a good watch B) ( also looking forward to the mentioned followup )
most of them were handled with care. but there are a few things i think I'll have to address next time. but I'm always trying my best! either way, I appreciate the support. 💖
Extra for the homestuck referenced in different shows: it was actually referenced on bluey a few times. From what I remember, an episode where the main characters went shopping contained the words “prospit” written on one of the banners put up on the products (hopefully I am describing this correctly,,)
yes! i learned about this after posting the video, but it'll be in the follow up!
@@CalsCalzones awesome!!!
23:50 UPDATE: Multiple updates for Homestuck^2: Beyond Canon have released, and James Roach is now in charge of developing the story.
im working on a whole video about this right now! thank you!
@@CalsCalzones Np :3
Ah, finally,, A great iceberg to play in the background while I draw my original fan-made silly little grey alien
50:15 Alright, fellow OP iceberg helper here!
They probably forgot to put "discourse" at the end of this one but it was about a huge unnecessary drama hiveswap fans did bc of these two.
When Act2 came out, a lot of ppl actually got uncomfortable with their interactions since Joey was almost 15 and Elwurd 16 in the game, some even started associating liking Elwurd or shipping her with Joey pr0sh1pp1ng(all of this bc some fans see Joey as still a child due to her naivety she has in the game)
Unfortunately Elwurd is the only character most ppl are low-key afraid to make fan anything out of her bc of this :(
I totally get why you probably didn't know about this while making the video since it mostly happened on Insta and Twitter
OP here (lol): I didn't put "discourse" because there was not enough space. Also because it referred to the the whole age thing and how confusing it was. It looked like Friendsim was that group project where everyone does their part and then put them together even if it doesn't make any sense or resulted hard to interpret for the readers/players
But a 1 year age gap is like? Not bad? Someone please tell me if im missing something
@@LostSwiftpaw No no, it's not about the age gap, it is about how confusing were the ages of the trolls with the events in Friendsim.
@@LHuxlux
Ohh yeah that makes sense!
@@LHuxlux omg i totally forgot i had thought that since she was at the “18+” party selling drugs it meant she was an adult (in human terms)
I was just trying to procrastinate homework, I was reminded of homestuck, was never apart of the Fandom, but oh my God am I glad I wasn't. The amount of THINGS that have happened in the comics entirety (fan works/interactions and all) is deeply terrifying lmao
fun fact; the reason why beekeeper was even replaced because the artist who made her had made public rule34 art of her, or it was leaked idk but that's why beekeeper was scrapped. Whatpumpkin to this day still has ownership of those scrapped characters and don't advise asking the artists for those scrapped characters they may or may not have made
source: trust me, i did my homework plus was there when i found the porn
That's exactly what i wanted to see... and its whole hour long video! I love it!!
i dont know if you heard, but a heinoustuck remake involving the original creator is being made!
Honestly, it’s fitting that a time-traveler going to the past to cosplay as a character that hasn’t been revealed yet would go as one of the most chaotic characters. ( 1:02:11 )
Idarat Catlaz didn't become canonical in Hiveswap from a Toblerone wish, Liquid T. won the Hiveswap comic competition.
thank you for the info! I probably didn't look far enough into idarat, I mainly focused on the other day trolls. appreciate the correction!
@@CalsCalzones No problem!
No clue how I didn't see this video sooner. Really liked it aside from a few details that were kinda wrong or needed some more context.
One of which is the third canon fan troll that was brought up during the canon trollsonas bit, this one was actually the winner of an art contest that was done for Hiveswap Act 2. The grand prize was getting your fantroll into the game.
i used to "homestuck" a danganronpa server i was in by quietly adding cant fight the homestuck into the music queue in a private channel i was a part of and waiting for hell to break loose
homestuck the musical was a fixation of mine after i finished homestuck and was sad abt it being over
jesus christ the fact i can understand most of the iceberg really takes me back lol, damn the early 2010s were weird.
this is the best Homestuck iceberg on RUclips in my opinion
THERE'S OTHERS!?
hey thanks!
j k rowling photos slowly being put on screen while you talked about transphobia was gold, wheird that was have a transphobia icon though. like how did that even happen? how did we end up actually having a patron saint of transphobia?
This will probably never be seen but!! Sugoi Quest for Kokoro is also most likely a parody of Nyan Neko Sugar Girls
I see it!
32:50 he seems like a friendly guy, but I definitely won't go in the same elevator with him. He would do scary things to me and the elevator.
June egbert was already a popular interpretation before the toblerone was found.
right! sorry if I said otherwise. the finding of the toblerone just helped to make her more widespread.
Holy shit 1 hour!! thank you for your work! ^^
thank you for all your help!
deepest part of the ice burg: trying to understand the mage class
LOLLL true😭😭😭
After doing literally one google search, this is my interpretation
Mage is the active version of the seer, which is a passive class. Passive classes benefit others, active benefit themselves, so mage would be like... Looking up a RUclips walkthrough? I guess?
@@heheheiamasuperstarwarrior9281 its a joke dude
@@sagesager7584 oh..
Whoopsie
@@heheheiamasuperstarwarrior9281 its fine lol
Cool video! Amazing in-depth research, very comprehensive. Immensely disappointed you got a copyright strike on this one.
Some additions:
1. MeGaLoVania
The song is hotly contested- People will argue about whether it's a Vriska song since it features her signature instrument (guitar) or Aradia since Wake centers around Aradia.
2. Vriska
There's a lot more Vriska trivia, her Wiki trivia page is really great. Hm- Someone should make a feature length documentary about her 🤔
3. SBAHJ
SBAHJ was loosely based on a webcomic that Hussie intended to mock called "Higher Technology" which is a stereotypical Gamer Comic of that era which originated the :y face. You mention this later on but never the name.
4. Books
The books have ended, they are still in print, but the books will not tell the entire story, tragically.
5. Flash
For some reason, the official renders of the Homestuck flashes on their main youtube channel are incredibly poor quality in spite of flash supporting high-def renders. It's unknown why this is as fans have uploaded better versions prior to the flash discontinuation. You mention this later but it's still wild to me
6. Paradox Space
The final episode of Paradox Space was only released in a hard-copy book that sold out its first day. Vrisky Business is now only viewable if you manage to find scans of it.
7. Formspring
You mention Solluxander but not Eridaniel.
8. Caucasian
The controversy as I remember it was actually the reverse. Andrew seemed to be *making fun of* people who exclusively considered the characters white and people were angry he was making fun of white people. This was during a time that long-time MSPA Forum-goers were embittered to a perceived "SJW" turn Andrew Hussie was taking. "Peachy" was replaced because it was intended to be the joke before the controversy.
9. Dante Basco
Dante voices Rufioh in Voxus's let's read. Pretty cool.
10. Retcon
The Retcon Juju item isn't white- It's actually transparent in the .gif.
11. Beta Kid Designs
There's actually a pic somewhere of Dave with a block-head. I can't find it but I know it exists
12. Dave's Blog
The only canonical place where Dave uses punctuation. Also he says the N word (you mention this i just think its wild)
13. Viz Ruined Homestuck
This one is just sad. The ads are flush with the panels, now. Very bad.
14. TUHSC
The slur replacement project is compatible with this. It's also a resource to read SBAHJ and other obscure related works. The best thing Hussie ever did was let his work slide into unofficial public domain.
15. Namco High
The Homestuck characters were actually paid DLC, interestingly.
16. Hussie Is O
This is one of a few "Hussie Is X" conspiracies, the most prominent other one is "Hussie is Chuck Tingle" which Chuck debunks.
17. Snoop Fanart
If you know the artist you know.
That's all the stuff I could think of. What an amazing video, really great to revisit all this stuff. Thanks for making this.
all of this is very useful info for the update video I intend to make! also a vriska video is certainly on the table. I promised TikTok I would make a leprechaun video next though so look forward to that lol
@@CalsCalzones have you seen the vriskumentary
@@FunkMcLovin omg no what
@@CalsCalzones its on youtube. by the same guy who did he roll biology vid
Dante Basco is a friend of Hussie, from whose image he created Rufio. He also played in the Peter Pan series and looked just like Rufio
Well, now I'm obsessed with Professor Mayonaka, thanks for the introduction to this fascinating character.
I hate that I was born after the fandom had arisen. And just now I've gotten back into it and it's dying-
people don't seem to realize that the retcon powers weren't there to literally fix mistakes hussie thought they made or smthg. homestuck is meta as hell; the author has a self insert, caliborn takes over the story for a while. so while they're calling it a retcon, it's just another goofy time travel mechanic and not some attempt by the author to appease unhappy fans.
they're pretty honest about their takes on fan takes. the Caucasian joke didn't start the race discourse, it was commenting on the already way out of control tumblr-brawling over headcanons
this fucking rocks, i'd love to see more of this series or just iceberg deep dives. amazing content.
i’ve been waiting on one of these
DANTE WAS AT A CON I WENT TO EARLIER THIS YEAR!! I should’ve went up to him and went “oh man I loved you in homestuck” but I DIDN’t . FUCK
16:47 Fun fact, I actually heard of that story way back when, but I had no idea what sharpie was, so I always clicked off any videos which mentioned it, because I assumed they were talking about someone taking a bath with pencil sharpeners. Almost happened to this video too.
Surprised there wasnt mentioned Andrews horse d1ldo. Idk much abt it but ik that some fans sent it to him and its even referenced in horusses sprite
Very nice video! That said, i wish the title was homestuck fandom iceberg instead.
fair. a true Homestuck iceberg would singlehandedly stop global warming with how huge it would be
Rev Scarecrow better be on this iceberg after he had to read the entire thing on stream for charity
f yea! \m/
You did a fantastic job. I'd totally be up for watching a follow-up video!
Yooo this is great dude! Great job!
I don't usually comment but this event lived SO rent free in my head.
The What Pumpkin Discourse lived rent free in my head for DAYS after the whole Sarah Z fiasco and longer after Hussie got involved because it felt a little demoralizing as a fan. Like they both represented the facts about what she said either poorly, or suggested that only haters have such thoughts or opinions. Even though there were plenty of fans who were put off by some of the behavior they've seen from WP.
Like somehow she's the one that originated these thoughts and fans hadn't been discussing them this whole time. I think broadly though everyone has to decide what they are and aren't willing to put up with. And I'm willing to live with the situation as it is because I believe in this community and the people inside of it.
I mean, I'm a fan. I've been one since September 2009. I don't like her video because it isn't about Homestuck as much as it is about Hussie and businesses that emerged around Homestuck. It gives almost zero merit to the comic where it shines, and just doomposts and focuses primarily on drama. It's, objectively, an exercise of focusing on the negative for a good half of the video or more, and less that of the comic and more about business blunders.
Frankly, she doesn't talk about pluses in general very much, but of Homestuck in particular, and for that, I don't think her title on that video is very apt nor is it a very good take overall.
if i recall correctly, in the act 6 intermission 3 walkaround flash, you can find professor mayonaka's amulet
absolutely true! one of two places it appears in canon!
very cool videooooo. also the track used said to be from "the baby is 2" is actually from the first the baby is you
God, I first read homestuck in 2012-13, it's been ten years. Ten. Long. Years. Was deep into the fandom and witnessed the peak and decline. What a ride.
me too. Honestly? Funnest period of my life. Being a young teenager during peak homestuck was so fun
Slurs are okay, It was a product of the time and honestly the gritdiness helps the appeal. These were teenagers/ on the cusp of teenage hood. Going through the most stressful thing anyone could imagine creating and losing a universe. I think it is completely okay for them to say some "horrible" stuff (also Karkat's entire personality is the word. "Fuckass" and I love him)
I like how the first half of this is just explaining what Homestuck is and how it works
Awesome vid!
Not sure it was mentioned as I'm only 1/4 of the way through this video, but Broadway Karkat was a huge fan project at the time, but I feel like gets lost
Guy: woah, how did you get so strong
Me: Every time I didn't understand something I'm homestuck, I did 1 push up
Guy: Jesus
I fell out of the fandom during the mega giga pause and keep telling myself I'll try reading again but the time sink is just so massive.😅
I totally get that! It's really overwhelming, especially considering how long it is and that you'd probably have to re-read the whole thing to better understand everything. That's actually what I'm doing right now and honestly, I'm not regretting it!😊 Once you start with the first few hundred pages, you just... keep going? So yeah I can highly recommend to start reading it again^^
good as video cal !! thorough as hell
I'm sure someone has probably said this before, but the John Karkat person came out and said that was a joke, if I remember correctly.
If Heir of Piss (Peace) exists, then a Heir of Wall (War) exists.
Piss in the Wall
this video needs more love
I somehow managed to get into homestuck when I was 10 for a bit. Wish I could’ve been born earlier so I could’ve actually been part of the fandom, cringey as it was. Reread and finally finished it like a year ago, and it’s really weird and sad just seeing the shadow of the massive fandom it once had. If only they hadn’t completely botched hiveswap, epilogues, HS^2, perhaps it would a still be a weird cultural juggernaut.
I just learned about formspring right now from this video
1:02:39 shadow wizard money gang 🤑💀🤑💀🤑
we love casting spells! 🧙🪄✨
ive watched this 3 times this is very good
meGaLoVania should be so high in the clouds that you can't even see the iceberg and undertale should be eclipsing the entire scene.
I thought i was like 40 minutes in. No i was 10
The pauses jfc. That gigapause was the hardest to wait until I lost interest in the comic. I remember refreshing the page everyday hoping for some snippet on the next act...
im surprised that Broadway homestuck wasn’t on here
I'm sure others have pointed this out, but I was happy to hear "...that comes about at the end of the world" as opposed to the far more common "...that ends the world" in the intro. It doesn't make much of a difference to someone asking what Homestuck is as an outsider, sure, but only because answering "What is Homestuck?" with a blurb about the plot tells them almost nothing actually useful ABOUT what Homestuck is anyways. If you're going to summarize the plot before getting to the good stuff, it should at least be a summary that is accurate, albeit without totally spoiling the plot twist about the end of the world scenario they begin* the story in.
homestuck
Yes
The fact that there are people that skipped to the trolls is outrageous, considering Acts 1-4 is better than the rest of the comic.
im the deranged phoebe person, the "racism" cited was because i made a joke about how my city stopped having bus routes to the "poor" part of town where most of the black and mexican people live. im black myself. bad research.
and the "harassment" was me getting doxxed by the homestuck discord/reddit guys because i pointed out hussie dated a 16 year old
hey, let me personally apologize to you. I'm extremely sorry for any harm done to you by this video. you're 100% correct, I did not look enough into this situation to be able to comment on it, it was really just a single Google search. I'm planning on making a follow up to this video with some corrections, would you be willing to dm me and talk so that I could set the record straight?
@@CalsCalzones i'd love to talk to you one on one! thank you for being understanding. the problem with the server in question is ongoing and they pride themselves on making the fandom unsafe for minors.
@@phoebeisthebest6518 of course! i really feel bad about my reporting here and id like to get your side of everything. are you on twitter? im @Cals_Calzones on there, id love for you to reach out so we can schedule a good time to chat.
@@phoebeisthebest6518 Why I'm not surprised by the "Dated a 16 years old" part?
You deserve more subs ngl :33
you're too kind!!
This is the best video ever uploaded
I've been waiting on a HS iceberg
Valeu Pudin mt foda
Damn, Cal was really in the zone with this one!
i feel different,..,. worse.,,.., thank you for taking the time to put this together omg
Sugoi Quest For Kokoro is the best and a new episode is indeed happenning!
Incomprehensible, I have begun to understand
YESSSS
no karkalicious????
what the fuck???
no way😭
Oh don't worry. I'll be covering karkalicious in the future
@@CalsCalzones :)
@@CalsCalzonesand also the arrow comands probably are the ==> that appears in lots of pages
@@omeg5473 yes, and those are a reference to the old adventure games like I said!
@@CalsCalzones ikr
Mehhh, I sure didn't like the discourse about it... but I'm trans and frankly I never liked June being canon.
If they'd pulled something like, "oh Dave was ftm the whole time, it's part of his toxic machismo," I'd have liked it a lot better.
But just abruptly superimposing being trans over JE with so little contextual support from a character like that felt kind of... insulting?
At the time at least I perceived it that way, now I just think it was a really weird choice during a time where Hussie seemed to be falling out of love with the comics, but stranger things have happened in the multiverse [shrug]
Problem Sleuth iceberg when?
i love this idea. id actaully really like to make a video on the physics concepts of the problem sleuth universe. the fact that every atom is a very small pickle inspector is one of my favorite jokes from any media
jesus christ homestuck iceberg. i’m on my 9th readthrough of homestuck
30:58 - 31:51 You forgot the best part - he voiced Rufioh for Voxus!