This is what a history documentary should be. It's dramatic without being overly sensational, and successfully humanizes both sides. Can't believe the History Channel went from this to aliens and bigfoot.
I found out long ago that there are an amazingly large amount of people who believe much of what they see on TV, no matter how ridiculous it is. RUclips has a lot of garbage but thankfully we can search out some decent educational videos in it. Your original post was spot on!
this is a german history documentary. most of them are like this. old guys sitting around telling the story with some pre filmed clips being played in between. british docus are mostly well known TV hosts running around, for some reason never standing still in front of the camera, telling the story right on location and american history shows are mostly with an off camera narrator with a deep voice and thick american accent, commercial breaks every 8 minutes and constant repeats of the same clip, always exaggerating to make it more dramatic.
it's a german documentary, an old guy (Prof. Dr.) explaining what happened, interspersed with cut scenes of reenactment and maps. if it were a british docu it would have a TV presenter running around constantly, never standing still in front of the camera, interviewing people on location and for some reason repeating every single word they just said back at them. if it was an american docu it would feature dramatic music and constant hyper fatalistic narrative interrupted by a dozen commercial breaks and if it were french it would be a talk round of 5-7 people in a studio talking about it with at least one woman being a hard core feminist/anti-racist being angry at history itself.
There's a saying in my country that translates into: "You can feed the wolf as much as you want, but he will always look towards the forest"...imo this fits really well to describe what happened between Arminius and Rome. Arminius may have taught to be Roman but in his heart he was always a Cheruscan.
This is probably my favorite part of Roman history. Especially Gaias Marius’s war against the Kimbre and the Tuotons. The wars with Germanic tribes are so fascinating and chilling at the same time
"Following World War II, information about Arminius and his victory was omitted from the German textbooks, and many modern Germans don't know about Arminius. The 2,000 year anniversary of the battle was not commemorated by the German government." So sad and pathetic.
I am not racist and am NOT a Nazi. I love Israel and the Jewish people . But I think it is sad Germans don't learn this and Can't enjoy this part of their history
Correction: there was no official state mandate for commemoration. Nationalism was not popular, but Arminius was certainly remembered by a lot of Germans that year, though it was not sure Germany could be unified.
Shawn, two of the educated talking heads are ex Professors from really well respected universities., Alexander Demandt was at Free Uni of Berlin and has a massive list of publications after his name, equally the statues in 54 m tall - not exactly hidden. There are some crazy peeps on here
Not true at all. We learn about this exact battle in secondary school. We call the dude Hermann, though. Keep your bullshit contained to your echo chamber, please.
I can't say I appreciate what the Romans did to my Germanic and Celtic ancestors, but I also admire their strength and intelligence. What can be done? The past is the past.
Imagine being those kids, you're living in a small primitive village then suddenly you arrive in a giant city you could only dream about, you'll probably feel like you stepped onto a different world entirely.
Arminius' story is really incredible. Born barbarian, raised as a roman, betrayed the empire for the sake of his "country", and eventually got killed by its own people. But as a fan of roman history, I feel I can share some useful insights here... Romans adventures across Rhine started to secure the empire's borders, not to conquer more territories. Germanic tribes were often ostile, that is why romans got there and tried to "romanize" them. That is something I think people tend to forget, but it explains a lot if you consider that the power of the two sides were much different. German tribes had to rely on ambushes to cope with roman legions, which were military superior at that time. Teutoburg was an ambush on a thin, long line of legionaries, that had no time to prepare for battle and were marching with their families (yes, there were plenty of women and children as well). That defeat has been avenged as some other users correctly pointed out, but Germanicus Julius Caesar was getting too popular and was sent far away from the emperor... it's always the people who seek power that makes empires ill. After that romans gave definitely up on the romanization of that area, which was deemed not possible anymore. On the other side, romans crossed the rhine whenever they had to. Indeed after that period the empire continued to take slaves from the germanic tribes anyhow. Later on some protectorate were established and romans successfully fought other battles (e.g. Harzhorn)... I believe it's just beautiful how history teach us that the balance among countries is a cycle. No one is the most powerful forever and, sometimes, what goes around comes around =)
Well, there you see how much nationalist myths of the past are untrue, not fitting in today ;) BUT you also can hear here how much Germanic tribes were organised in hierarchial ranks on a personal level, how warriors owed allegiance to the one man... talking about WW2, you should find similarities :D
Yeah, but Germany was fighting the world in world war 2. U.S., Russia, England, France, Canada, Australia, Ukraine, Romania, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungry, and several other smaller European states.
BlauerBooo in only takes about three generations for these kinds of generalities to change in a society ... it has little to do with dna, but a lot to do with conditioning
@rollothewalker5535 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! First of all, interesting username you have because you do realize that the Norse Vikings are closer to Pre-Christian ancient pagan Germany than to ancient Romans? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You're acting like as if the Norse Vikings are closer to Romans than Pre-Christian ancient Germany. 🤣🤣🤣 So what are you really trying to say here? 🤣🤣🤣 Second of all, nobody here knows what Reddit is. Go back to the teenage highschool playground that is Reddit. Mature adults don't talk to teenagers. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Strangest thing I have ever read.
I was stationed in Germany (west) from 1981-83. I like to think I've been to a few places on our blue marble. those 2 years were beyond my dreams and changed my life and perspective. many overdue belated thank yous to the people, especially in aschaffenburg.
Thumbs up to Germany, The message was clear: Fight for liberation (freedom) No matter what has to be done, and Thumbs up to Arminius also. lang lebe Deutchland
+marco brenni Wie kann denn ,,Götterdämmerung, Nihilismus, Apokalypse usw." in den Genen stecken? Hört sich ja schon fast so an wie Rassentheorie oder so'n müll.
+Vincccc : Nee, hat nichts mit Rassentheorie zu tun, sondern mit Kultur, nur Kultur. Abendstimmung, Dr. Faust, fataler Untergang (O. Spengler), Nihilismus (Nietzsche), tragisch-schwarze Romantik usw. usw. gehören ja zur deutschen Kultur , wie zB. Tango zu Argentinien oder Leichtsinn zu Italien
+Suradj bhattoe Not all the tribes were german there was poles frisians and dutch tribes as well many of the tribes in the teutoburg forest battle were dutch.
+Runnin My Own Ting Top Shottas There were no Poles in the battle of the teutoburg forest ;) But Frisians and Dutch are in the same culture group ,,Germanic" and fought in that battle.
I’m making a song commemorating this currently. This documentary is awesome. I don’t know how I’m just seeing this now but I’m stoked. You rule for uploading this whoever.
I love the story of Arminius. As an American with a German last name, I always thought Germany's only history-worthy accounts were their "contributions" in the World Wars. Interesting how "people" like to rewrite history in their favor. I always grew up with shame knowing my family was German, this was before I realized American history books really do a horrible justice for Germans as a people. They only want to define us as animals who will blindly follow any leader who gives us what we want; brutes if you will. Thankfully my family came in the late 1880's and had no part in that shit but it's sad to think that at one point, public schools taught me the German people were monsters. Never even mentioning our struggles to live freely from outside interference and how that was used against us by some Austrian prick as a means to rise to power. I guess when it doesn't fit your story, don't write it. I know now that Germans never had it easy and that's why we're so tough.
WW1 was a different thing than WW2. It would have ended just because of exhaustion if the US hadn't intervened. The Allies and Wilson and the new democratic German government agreed on peace making according to Wilson's 14 points but he and the Allies broke that in Versailles. So they sent the German democrats on the road to ultimate disaster. Because of Versailles the German government couldn't ameliorate the great depression, unlike Roosevelt in the US.
22:01 "Its not easy to make people genuinely committed to a system that may bring them great privileges but also requires a change of identity. Not everyone can do that." And how relevant that statement is to modern Germany and Europe as a whole.
@@Cheeseatingjunlista The founding of the US as a nation goes back a mere 240 years, but our culture goes back to our British origins, we didn't just materialize in North America and wondered what culture we should develop, we already had one.
@@jamesruddy9264 what culture did you have? america has no culture according to the constitution. culturally everybody can do what he wants. it's a melting pot and the biggest ethnic group in the states (the germans) would hardly agree with you that they are of british cultural offspring. they only adapted the language and threw so many other things in themselves.
@@nightwish1000 Culture isn't mentioned in the constitution at all, but it derived from the culture of those who wrote it, who were, British subjects who rebelled against the Crown, and won. The culture of that time has adapted with time and demographic changes. Two of my great-grandparents came to America from Prussia, and you don't get more German than that, so as an ethnic German descendant I can attest that we did adopt the dominant culture here, though they are so closely related it hardly matters.
@@jamesruddy9264 what is the "dominant culture" in the USA? the consitution was written against the british crown and you try to make it an offspring of british culture. it was french and prussian generals who led that fight. the US constitution is completely different from british common law, you have completely different traditions and habits. a brit today is culturewise much closer to a continental european than to an american (language excluded). america unlike european countries is no culture nation, it's a melting pot, becoming predominently hispanic in some decades. it's exactly the non-presence of a defined american culture and certainly the lack of demand to assimilate as there is no basic "ethnic nation" that frightens many americans by feeling that their nation will break apart, that gives many a feeling of not being at home in their own country anymore and that makes them oppose to more foreign influx with all the bad consequences like racism and nationalism.
Tar Aldarion lol at angry white Americans and Northern Europeans! Yes, it was us, the Mediterranean, Southern Europeans who took you out of your fur skirts and mud painted faces! 😂😂
He tricked the germans to get power for him self..... what he done is said no to modernity and pushed germans back into killing each other once the Romans left..... u dont know anything
+conrad robledo : I do respect your friends, but I'm not fond about Germany and the Germans at all. For instance, my father had been arrested by the GESTAPO in Würzburg (1936) and risked also to land in Dachau 's Nazi-Lager if the Swiss diplomacy had not interferred. He was only an innocent student intended to learn better the German language. The paranoic Germans suspectd him to be a spy without any reasons, or better only because he had an " Italian face" and dark hairs (!) No comment..
+Sam Urai : However there is a German culture based on ancient tribal roots. Germans are used to obey to the superiors (the hierarchy or the antique tribal chief) whatever the orders are , without any sense of criticism. A sort of a Prussian "Kasernenmentalität" (H. Hesse). That said , there is also the fact that Germany and Italy had very recent, far too young democracies, so that the criticism and the civil courage to react against a bad authoritarianism was not given at all. Nowadays things have fortunately changed, anyway with the risk that Angela Merkel is perceived as the new Goddess of the postmodern Germany
@@marcob4630 that's blunt racism marco brenni. germans don't "obey to superiors". that's a dumb clichée coming from the last century. next to the french there is hardly a people with that many revolts and revolutions against the ruling elites than the germans.
@@James-nq8eh The US empire has never truly cared about its people to begin with lol, your guns didn't help you get your rights, it was civil disobediance that got you concessions. The US military is invincible,if if a president turns into a Caesar there is no way you're gonna stop him.
@@theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 I am an American and let me tell you that there is no enemy, foreign or domestic that can conquer us, behind EVERY blade of grass, behind EVERY rock and tree there is a gun in the hand of a proud European-American, the REAL Americans. There are no Civilians amongst our folk.
@@LucidWanderer "European-American" oh, so you are a monarchist? It must be hard living as a traitor amongst millions of people who consider themselves to be the inheritors of a state which rebelled against its European overlord and was formed consequently.
There is/should be more to being civilized than being technologically advanced, organized and having infrastructure. Often we overlook the trampling of basic human rights and dignity on the way to becoming civilized. It always amazes me that after so long we still treat other humans the way we always have. We have reached such heights in technology and "civilization" but have made little progress in how we treat our fellow man.
I was really astounded by what young Arminius had accomplished throughout his 37 years of existence. I'm sort of asking myself how I can make an impact in this world in this generation.
***** Very stupid comment. State cannot demand anything from free men - free men are state. You cannot be completely free of course, you have to come to some sort of agreement with other free men. If you are not allowed to carry weapon and nobody actually cares about what you think then you are a slave.
Unless that side of your family was from Roma itself, you're most likely one of the other Italian peoples, which were also enemies of Rome before they were conquered.
Vladimir Lenin no actually they lost a good deal more than that but we're on top for a very long time there quit a few nations they could not subdue and a few they didnt even try
Not really, not always. Whenever it was too cold, or too unprofitable (or depending on the emperor sitting at the throne), Roman forces would leave it. Happened in Germania and the lands we now know as Scotland. It was way more important, to the Empire's stability, to secure profitable regions and trading routes - these were the battles worth winning, and these they certainly won.
"The battles worth winning"??? Yeah, losing 3 crack legions - wiped out - was not big deal... Come off it, already. Let's just fast forward to the Germanics COMPLETELY conquering Rome! And then let's fast forward to Germany military in WW1 and WW2 versus Italians who LOST TO ETHIOPIANS! And then let's fast forward to the economies today! And the cleanliness, too Once more we have German domination. So, enough with the BS, sweetbuns! And you're probably a crypto-Germanic, anyway - sleep on that tight stuff.
+Hokage Minato -Mattix NOTE TO ALL VIEWERS:::: If you want to avoid a spoiler and a dick move by the video director. Please mute between (43:15) and (43:30)
“Varus would become the scapegoat for the greatest military disaster in Roman military history.” Apparently the producers forgot what occurred at Cannae during the Second Punic War.
The thing different about Cannae was that in the end, Rome was still able to beat Hannibal and destroy Carthage and the Senate itself really made no scapegoat and Instead just readied for more battles. Here, the Emperor would not be able to do so and Rome would never be able to push to the Elbe again, even with Germanicus' campaigns against Arminius and the Germans. Imperial Era Rome was a different beast in terms of military and plus, they lost their eagles, something that didn't happen in Cannae. That, in and of itself, was a disaster to Rome.
MikiTiger Gaming and Reading Studios Sure, Rome lost three legions at Teutoburg and were never again able to attempt to conquer Germania. However, Rome lost six or seven legions at Cannae and was threatened with a possible sacking, unlike the events of Teutoburg. Therefore, given the circumstances Cannae seems to me to be the biggest Roman military disaster.
exactly, this is the most insignificant battle,ambush, in Roman history ....battle nr 70 Even against the teutons , before destroying them, the Romans lost way more soldiers in several terrible battles, and there were not so far away from Rome, not to talk about Hannibal Cannae Trebbia Trasimeno .
Germanicus the Arminio Vindicator won to battles after Teutoburg against Arminio but none decisive, the Romans decided then too high the price to pay for a land so far away from Rome ,not posing any danger and cold.Germanicus then growing too strong was poisoned in Asia minor. The romans knew their legions were not in the perfect battlefield in the northern forests and probably calculated rather well the risk reward. After Teutoburg Varo , man of honor committed suicide, like the japanese after ww2...it was not the case of the Nazis after ww2 who sneaked away with fake documents made by the vatican or the red cross...
Arminius got his training in Rome. He knew that his tribal warriors were no match on a wide open plain. Therefore he lured the legions into swamp, jungle and mountain. Yet his early training in Italy fostered the success, because he knew the enemy's tactics.
@@rollothewalker5535 Listen kid, your name is strange. Where do you really side, Romans or the Germanic peoples(which includes the Norse Vikings you worship)? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
It's more complicated than that, though. Even the fact that Rome "fell" is quitye questionable. The western Roman Empire fell, right (ultimately destroyed by one of its barbarian generals, oh the irony), but the "barbarians" quickly adopted roman culture. It was never destroyed - in fact, it even flourished. The "Dark Ages" are bullshit. The legacy of Rome survived and contributed to shape the era we know as the Middle Ages, the era that gave birth to our civilisation. It's more of a slow evolution than a brutal fall.
Lord Shadoko I think everybody agrees that the water sources and other heated baths and such were destroyed by ignorance over time. Modern to non-urban modern you could say that water sources were the eletricity of those many thousand years?
Anyone think the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest would make a good horror movie? Creepy forests, unknown terrain, and bloody thirsty tribesmen lurking behind the trees!
Well it made a fantastic strategic level in the video game Rome II: Total War, so a movie adaptation about Arminius and the The Great Massacre at Teutoburg Forrest could work.
I can't believe Varus led 20,000 men with civilians and baggage trains into that forest. What the hell was he thinking? That seems like the worst choice he could have made, even if he was lied to and told that there was a rebel German force that was waiting for him to cut him off in the open battlefield. He had to have known that he couldn't use his 20,000 soldiers effectively in that German forest. "What madness drove them in there?"
Some historians think that he was literaly in a moral dilemma. He just could not believe that Arminius, a well trustet roman citizen, knight and war-hero could betray him. And why he choosed the way through the forest? It was perhaps the fastest way back.
Romans believed they were invincible and so underestimated their enemy. Never in his wildest dream did Varus imagine that Germans who had no concept of military strategy (as understood in Roman sense) could launch such a well planned ambush.
More the likely Varus trusted Arminus too much, and like many Romans in the occupied territories he treated the native population like trash, and believed that Arminus, having been raised in Roman territory wouldn't harbor any sort of grudge and even if he had suspicion that Arminus was planning on betraying him, he believed Roman military might would win the day. However when the ambush happened the Roman soldiers were exhausted, and disorented...that trust he showed allowed Arminus to pick the battlefield, and in the forest the lightly armed and armored Germans had the advantage of knowing the terrain and were able to move and attack faster then the exhausted Romans
Germanicus has done justice after few years.. crossed the Rhine with his legions, killed Arminius the traitor and anyone else he met on his way, has buried the dead legionaries and, above all, he has recovered the Eagles. This is the end of that story.
lazios: you're right indeed - the revenge by the Romans was tremendous, however they decided not to occupy an useless and cold northern Barbaric land. But I doubt that Arminiuss had been catched and killed by the Romans, in reality he had been assassinated by the German tribes themseves, because of his tirannycal character and the tendency to be a fake, an enormous liar
Fascinating subject... The narrator's statement about one hour in, that the Germanic tribesmen's weapons were 'inferior' is slightly irritating - mainly because it's wrong. The Romans had better armour certainly, and some weapons unavailable to the Cherusci, but in terms of basic combat weaponry, both Celtic and Germanic swords, spears and axes were as good or better than Roman equivalents. (I love how he says the Cherusci had 'wooden spears', as if the shafts of Roman spears were made of something else!)
Oh please ! everyone knows the Romans invented carbon nano tubes and tungsten carbide. The Germanic tribes didn't stand a chance against the many many 27 megaton thermo nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles with multiple re entry vehicles that the Romans had mounted to there nitro methane powered top fuel rail chariots.
@@nickacelvn Ah, now that's a good point. However, the German beer missiles did seem to make everyone generally quite happy and in the mood for fucking.
I had the absolute pleasure to live in the South of Germany, Bavaria. I sipped wine in old Roman baths converted to parks in the heart of the city of Augsburg. I seen countryside so beautiful it made me cry. The Germans were wonderfully kind and after leaving, going back to USA- I was a lost soul. Ive lived in 5 US states- California, Colorado, Alabama, Oregon, Nevada (and a little time in New York)- NOTHING compared to Germany. Germany made USA feel third world. I could never understand how people could define a culture thats over 1000 years by 15 years.Not to make light of the wars, but worst things happened before the Holocaust, during the Holocaust and after the Holocaust. Look up The Killing Fields if you doubt. No peoples has clean hands and the Germans have ALOT to be proud of and still do. Go to South Germany- you will come back with pride to the gills. - American born Italian/Mexican girl.
As a German-American born in 1964, I find this fascinating. I must confess, this humble soul is not as educated as I might think. History is not taught anymore and perceived "bad guys" are everywhere. Bottom line ... we must all learn more history and stop watching what is now called "Network News." War is Hell, but a complex and ugly fact of life.
For those interested, Roman retaliation took form in a series of punitive expeditions led by General Germanicus Julius Caesar. Germanicus utterly crushed the barbarians time after time from 14 AD to 16 AD, less than 10 years after the disaster at Teutoburg Forest.
I had no idea that Hugh Laurie had joined the legions of Rome (17.23) - and still fighting those damn Gerries 1900 years later. What a soldier !!!!!!!!!!.
I've seen Germans reenacting living and working as Roman soldiers. These particular guys actually learned & used the Latin commands while doing things like " falling to formation for roll call, " or " going through the process of firing a ballista or a catapult. " & " maneuvering during a battle. " This served to enhance a sense of realism while they " were fighting for the Empire & the " Eternal City ". While in England for a summer, I got to don the armor & fight against the ancient Britons who were resisting the great civilizing power of Trajan's legions. The reenacting Romans from England simply spoke English. Good for me as I only speak English and rus
@Gott Mit Uns And third, Barbarian occupation of Italy lasted only 100 years whit Ostroghot empire,before Bizantinians come and send your shitty people back to their beloved Germany.
Ag good video! The Celts - the older, hippy/artist brother of the Germans - had imported Greek wares and culture, they were becoming urbanised just as Caesar destroyed them, the Romans could relate to them to a fair degree (and their Latin ancestors were not dissimilar to the Celts) living in a World with centuries of urban culture the dark Teutoburger Forest and it's fierce inhabitants would have been quite a shock. The Romans did come to admire the Germans though, in various respects.
Arminius was German just as birth, him has been raised as a Roman soldier, and it's thanks to this that has been able to defeat Roman Legions. And obviously has taken advantage from the Romans trust and an incompetent commander as Quintilius Varo. Or do you believe that it was a case not to have fought against the Romans in the open field? Arminius knew very well that in a direct fight would have lost, has been smart.. bravo him. What makes me smile is that the "modern" Germans make him as a hero, forgetting that in reality, at the end ..him was defeated. Everyone pretends to not remember what happened a few years later this battle.. The great Germanicus crossed the Rhine with its legions and defeats EVERYONE, putting to fire and sword everything that he met on his way. Recovering the Eagles (2 on 3) of Varus' Legions. This is the REAL end of the story (THIS story). Arminio don't only lost, but didn't even realize his dream, given that the first German unification it happened in reality with the Carolingian Empire before (Charlemagne Emperor of all the Romans) and then with Otto I of Saxony, first Holy ROMAN Emperor (King of German and Italy). Same laws.. same Religion (where were crowned?). Do you really believe that Rome has lost? LOL
nope modern germany doesn't portray him as ahero, simply because the nazis did it. But yes i still believe that they fucked rome right into their little pussies
Rome was the most beautiful society the world has ever seen , Roman standards of medicine were not met for nearly 2000 years in the Victorian era let alone the architecture shame it did not call the whole world it's imperium.
Hard to feel sorry for the Romans considering the amount of cruel things they did in their rise to power and after....Well done docudrama that kept my interest
zoolkhan At least the private channels don't claim to be politically neutral. On the other hand they're economically independent whilst each household and each company in Germany is obliged to finance the public tv and radio stations. So in fact I doubt that the private channels are "worse".
Maxim Kretsch they are not independant - that is exatly the problem. they do what their main sponsor tells them to do, and there is no comitte ensuring neutrality. I can flood you with prime examples of private TV catering for the stammtisch-mainstream, thus dropping important facts under the table that would overwhelm the stammtisch. (people like you)
The only one who is triggered is you pro barbarians telling historical bullshits. Get your facts right. Germania got destroyed by Rome, and this documentary is a joke.
Learning from history is to learn that globalism and multiculturalism such as that which the Roman Empire attempted only leads to conflict and blood. You are a slave and the word "racist" is rhetoric to enforce your enslavement.
There was one. The 20th century had one who understood marxism as the greatest culture destroying force for globalist ends. But for the money grubblers, their printhouse brethren and bought-out buddies all manipulating politicians, contriving events and propagandizing populaces into 2 Great Brother Wars he would have been as victorious as Hermann. Bolshevism/marxism/communism would have been destroyed. The globalists' greatest achievement of the 20th century was successfully dividing Greater Germania into opposing sides and then have them annihiliate each other in 2 money spinning wars in the most treasured and beautiful continent on Earth. International (Globalising) Marxism achieved more in 20 years than its religious (xian) form had done in 1500 years of brutal conversions and interreligious conflicts. This success in decimating the manhood of Europe and traumatising those who made it through left a chasm into which the surrogate marxist culture of tolerance, multiculturism, relativism, nilhilism, disdain for beauty and merit, apathy, militant feminism and diminished masculinism was seeded. The printhouses are still lying about him; the money grubblers are still unceasingly thievng money and accumulating power and the bought-out buddies have multiplied and have useful indoctrinated true believers as acolytes and supporting all this is a dumbed down population with a daddy fixation on big govt as all benevolent. And here we are with 3 camps, the sleepwalkers, the aware and the awakened. With the first lot being useless that leaves the aware with some wishing a someone to take us all in hand and lead us through the greatest fight ever faced by ALL the races of humanknd while others sit back "knowing" the jesus character will soon end it all with his return; OR the truly awakened knowing the above options, in respective order, are futile and fanciful and that the only way to thwart the coming feudal economic, technocratic totalitarian world governance system is grassroots revival of localism and ethnic cultural ways.
Not being able to carry a murder weapon would be positive if somehow you could get everybody to comply, which obviously wouldn't happen. This was a much more primitive and violent time where many 'un-moral' practices were very common. I wouldn't use a Civilisation that used to watch slaves slice each other to death as entertainment, an effective comparison for your argument.
This story is exactly Skanderbeg's story. Skanderbeg (the guy that gave Albania independence from Ottoman empire) was taken to the Ottoman court as a kid, raised to be a military commander and then turned on the Ottoman empire for Albanian (Shqiperi) independence.
+Daryle Cosgrove A good beating ? You are an awkward barbarian admirer. Rome is still now visited by millions of tourists every year, whereas Germany is avoided as being the most unattractive land in Europe !
+marco brenni Are you kidding, Marco? Germany the most unattractive land in Europe? Have you been here, if not shut up! Do you know how many millions of tourists are visiting Germany - even Berlin - per year? Most of the tourists visiting Italy come because of the nice weather that is better in the south of course. I have been in Rome and Sicily some years ago and we were astonished how dirty these places were. More dirty than every other land we visited in south Europe. And not to compare with Scandinavia, Netherlands, England - and Germany. It seems to me that the North is the civilized part of todays Europe. Stop discussing emotionally and nationalistic. Cheers
+Hans Albring. Indeed Germany is far cleaner than Italy , but this is just secondary. Italy has a hudge number of historical cities, monuments, art in general and also good food. I have visited many time parts of Germany, but I ever had this strange uncomofortable feeling of an after-war land. The main cities have been destroyed included the historical places. A few have been rebuilt like Nürnberg or Würzburg (beautiful !) but others are nowadays only banal - trivial with a very anonymous architecture : Köln (except the Dom, Berlin, Hamburg , Ulm-except the Dom, etc.) I've very appreciated Augst, Munich, Freiburg, Lübeck and others which all have a rebuilt historical center; even Dresden (!) In my opinion the best way to visit Germany is to avoid the principal cities.
+marco brenni I agree, most of the historical places have been destroyed during the war and often have been rebuilt with an awful simple architecture in the fifties. The population needed houses immediately and it was a great performance of the German women to build the country up. Italian food? Excellent! I'm just back from my Italian friends and had an excellent dinner...:) I see you have been travelling a lot in Germany, I am in Siena in July and in Rome in October. Like the country.
+Hans Albring : I like Italy too even with all the deficiencies: corruption, filth, indiscipline etc. I'm Swiss living near the Italian border therefore I know Italians very well. As ticinesi we share the same language and culture,moreover also the German culture because of the Swiss-Germans who are the hudge majority. Ticino is a sort of a colony of the Swiss-germans. In facts, we have been colonized since the 16- Centrury.
I think it would have been interesting if they had talked about the connection between the resultant borders of these two cultures and the areas that identify as Catholic vs Protestant. It's a schism with 2000 years of history and it would've been interesting to hear about the fallout from this event
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This is what a history documentary should be. It's dramatic without being overly sensational, and successfully humanizes both sides. Can't believe the History Channel went from this to aliens and bigfoot.
+facetiousbadger Maybe they were seeking a larger audience with a lower IQ.
Dogsfriend73 And unfortunately ruined one of my favorite channels.
I found out long ago that there are an amazingly large amount of people who believe much of what they see on TV, no matter how ridiculous it is. RUclips has a lot of garbage but thankfully we can search out some decent educational videos in it. Your original post was spot on!
this is a german history documentary. most of them are like this. old guys sitting around telling the story with some pre filmed clips being played in between. british docus are mostly well known TV hosts running around, for some reason never standing still in front of the camera, telling the story right on location and american history shows are mostly with an off camera narrator with a deep voice and thick american accent, commercial breaks every 8 minutes and constant repeats of the same clip, always exaggerating to make it more dramatic.
I hate American history documentaries... They are so fucking annoying!!! :P
All cultural rivalries aside, I'm pleasantly surprised! This is a terrific documentary. Beautifully done.
it's a german documentary, an old guy (Prof. Dr.) explaining what happened, interspersed with cut scenes of reenactment and maps. if it were a british docu it would have a TV presenter running around constantly, never standing still in front of the camera, interviewing people on location and for some reason repeating every single word they just said back at them. if it was an american docu it would feature dramatic music and constant hyper fatalistic narrative interrupted by a dozen commercial breaks and if it were french it would be a talk round of 5-7 people in a studio talking about it with at least one woman being a hard core feminist/anti-racist being angry at history itself.
@@swunt10 haha u r right
There's a saying in my country that translates into: "You can feed the wolf as much as you want, but he will always look towards the forest"...imo this fits really well to describe what happened between Arminius and Rome. Arminius may have taught to be Roman but in his heart he was always a Cheruscan.
Great analogy you deserve a cookie
.... Great words "You can feed a wolf etc.," - Very Real, but also Very Moving.
Phil Liverpool UK 🇬🇧
love this saying. Is it a german saying?
When the History Channel (and the greater "History" network) used to show history-related programmes.
+Alejandro Teruel Don't disrespect the hairspray.
You mean to tell me Are 51 documentaries are not serious history????
Konrad Wallenrod We're not saying it's aliens because it's not aliens.
facetiousbadger
it was the aliens, because it was the aliens, even though I am not suggesting it was theb aliens!
Konrad Wallenrod Lies and slander! Next you'll be telling me we've figured out how fuckin' magnets work.
This is probably my favorite part of Roman history. Especially Gaias Marius’s war against the Kimbre and the Tuotons. The wars with Germanic tribes are so fascinating and chilling at the same time
The Hermanns Denkmal (monument) is near my home.
We've been there and in the forest a lot when I was a kid.
I live near the counterpart in the United states
Lucky.
I want to visit
I was stationed in Detmold for many years.
It's 50 miles away from the forest were the battle was.
"Following World War II, information about Arminius and his victory was omitted from the German
textbooks, and many modern Germans don't know about Arminius. The 2,000 year anniversary of the battle was not commemorated by the German government."
So sad and pathetic.
the German government have nothing to do with germany, you do know what, the people who run Germany, same us UK, don't care too much.
I am not racist and am NOT a Nazi. I love Israel and the Jewish people . But I think it is sad Germans don't learn this and Can't enjoy this part of their history
Correction: there was no official state mandate for commemoration. Nationalism was not popular, but Arminius was certainly remembered by a lot of Germans that year, though it was not sure Germany could be unified.
Shawn, two of the educated talking heads are ex Professors from really well respected universities., Alexander Demandt was at Free Uni of Berlin and has a massive list of publications after his name, equally the statues in 54 m tall - not exactly hidden. There are some crazy peeps on here
Not true at all. We learn about this exact battle in secondary school. We call the dude Hermann, though.
Keep your bullshit contained to your echo chamber, please.
When you realize this true story would have made a better film than Gladiator.
+Thor Aackerlund : Indeed: I thought about the same subject
Thor Aackerlund But Jewish Hollywood will never make it. They rather ignore it all. 😂
Perhaps they will in Time .
@House of Savoy because ist germanic patriotism, they still want us feel guilty
Gladiator is also based on a true story.
Respect the Germanic peoples!!!! Salutations from a Roman Latin.
Antonio Brandao 👍
I can't say I appreciate what the Romans did to my Germanic and Celtic ancestors, but I also admire their strength and intelligence. What can be done? The past is the past.
Imagine being those kids, you're living in a small primitive village then suddenly you arrive in a giant city you could only dream about, you'll probably feel like you stepped onto a different world entirely.
He had stepped into a different world entirely
Arminius' story is really incredible. Born barbarian, raised as a roman, betrayed the empire for the sake of his "country", and eventually got killed by its own people.
But as a fan of roman history, I feel I can share some useful insights here...
Romans adventures across Rhine started to secure the empire's borders, not to conquer more territories. Germanic tribes were often ostile, that is why romans got there and tried to "romanize" them. That is something I think people tend to forget, but it explains a lot if you consider that the power of the two sides were much different. German tribes had to rely on ambushes to cope with roman legions, which were military superior at that time.
Teutoburg was an ambush on a thin, long line of legionaries, that had no time to prepare for battle and were marching with their families (yes, there were plenty of women and children as well). That defeat has been avenged as some other users correctly pointed out, but Germanicus Julius Caesar was getting too popular and was sent far away from the emperor... it's always the people who seek power that makes empires ill.
After that romans gave definitely up on the romanization of that area, which was deemed not possible anymore. On the other side, romans crossed the rhine whenever they had to. Indeed after that period the empire continued to take slaves from the germanic tribes anyhow. Later on some protectorate were established and romans successfully fought other battles (e.g. Harzhorn)...
I believe it's just beautiful how history teach us that the balance among countries is a cycle. No one is the most powerful forever and, sometimes, what goes around comes around =)
His story is amazing to know he his a incredible resistance leader 😀.
Ironic that Germany in WW2 was disciplined and organized where as Italy was not so much. They kind of reversed roles.
Well, there you see how much nationalist myths of the past are untrue, not fitting in today ;)
BUT you also can hear here how much Germanic tribes were organised in hierarchial ranks on a personal level, how warriors owed allegiance to the one man... talking about WW2, you should find similarities :D
ok...but without that winning attitude from that time...
Good Old Germany
Yeah, but Germany was fighting the world in world war 2. U.S., Russia, England, France, Canada, Australia, Ukraine, Romania, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungry, and several other smaller European states.
BlauerBooo in only takes about three generations for these kinds of generalities to change in a society ... it has little to do with dna, but a lot to do with conditioning
Wow, what a terrific documentary. Well-acted and realistic.
Germany is such a beautiful country. I lived in Stuttgart for 2+ years and hope to return someday for a visit.
r/nobodyasked
@rollothewalker5535
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
First of all, interesting username you have because you do realize that the Norse Vikings are closer to Pre-Christian ancient pagan Germany than to ancient Romans?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
You're acting like as if the Norse Vikings are closer to Romans than Pre-Christian ancient Germany. 🤣🤣🤣
So what are you really trying to say here? 🤣🤣🤣
Second of all, nobody here knows what Reddit is. Go back to the teenage highschool playground that is Reddit. Mature adults don't talk to teenagers.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Strangest thing I have ever read.
I was stationed in Germany (west) from 1981-83. I like to think I've been to a few places on our blue marble. those 2 years were beyond my dreams and changed my life and perspective. many overdue belated thank yous to the people, especially in aschaffenburg.
I love this story. They should really make a movie about this story. I think it would be better than most.
Thumbs up to Germany, The message was clear: Fight for liberation (freedom) No matter what has to be done, and Thumbs up to Arminius also. lang lebe Deutchland
I am from Russia, but I admire Arminius. What a great man!!!
+marco brenni Wie kann denn ,,Götterdämmerung, Nihilismus, Apokalypse usw." in den Genen stecken? Hört sich ja schon fast so an wie Rassentheorie oder so'n müll.
+Vincccc : Nee, hat nichts mit Rassentheorie zu tun, sondern mit Kultur, nur Kultur. Abendstimmung, Dr. Faust, fataler Untergang
(O. Spengler), Nihilismus (Nietzsche), tragisch-schwarze Romantik usw. usw. gehören ja zur deutschen Kultur , wie zB. Tango zu Argentinien oder Leichtsinn zu Italien
+Suradj bhattoe Not all the tribes were german there was poles frisians and dutch tribes as well many of the tribes in the teutoburg forest battle were dutch.
+Runnin My Own Ting Top Shottas There were no Poles in the battle of the teutoburg forest ;) But Frisians and Dutch are in the same culture group ,,Germanic" and fought in that battle.
I’m making a song commemorating this currently. This documentary is awesome. I don’t know how I’m just seeing this now but I’m stoked. You rule for uploading this whoever.
A lot of Neo Romans on here all mad at Germany.
Jewbear1884
Jewbear1884 Don't only give germans credit all of the germanics did it not just the now called germans
***** I think i understand you
+LithzIII I always thought it was because Ghengis Khan and his Hunnic Empire invaded Germany and breeded Germans out with his Mongoloid dna.
CaesarMaximus1488 No fuck you, you goddamn olive oil drinking shitlord, I'll wreck your provinces.
Arminius waited his entire life jsut to take vengeance in this most decisive and merciless way possible. Absolutely beautiful.
a nice documentary with a good supply of well done pictures and shots!
I love the story of Arminius. As an American with a German last name, I always thought Germany's only history-worthy accounts were their "contributions" in the World Wars. Interesting how "people" like to rewrite history in their favor. I always grew up with shame knowing my family was German, this was before I realized American history books really do a horrible justice for Germans as a people. They only want to define us as animals who will blindly follow any leader who gives us what we want; brutes if you will. Thankfully my family came in the late 1880's and had no part in that shit but it's sad to think that at one point, public schools taught me the German people were monsters. Never even mentioning our struggles to live freely from outside interference and how that was used against us by some Austrian prick as a means to rise to power. I guess when it doesn't fit your story, don't write it. I know now that Germans never had it easy and that's why we're so tough.
WW1 was a different thing than WW2. It would have ended just because of exhaustion if the US hadn't intervened. The Allies and Wilson and the new democratic German government agreed on peace making according to Wilson's 14 points but he and the Allies broke that in Versailles. So they sent the German democrats on the road to ultimate disaster. Because of Versailles the German government couldn't ameliorate the great depression, unlike Roosevelt in the US.
Germans lived in mudhuts while my Roman ancestors were civilised.
This is what I expect to see from a history presentation. This should never have been removed from the History Channel.
22:01 "Its not easy to make people genuinely committed to a system that may bring them great privileges but also requires a change of identity. Not everyone can do that." And how relevant that statement is to modern Germany and Europe as a whole.
I remember watching this when it first aired on the history channel. Back when the history channel made history TV shows
They could easily turn this into an epic and historically accurate miniseries, but that won't happen will it. We know why.
@@Cheeseatingjunlista The founding of the US as a nation goes back a mere 240 years, but our culture goes back to our British origins, we didn't just materialize in North America and wondered what culture we should develop, we already had one.
@@jamesruddy9264 what culture did you have? america has no culture according to the constitution. culturally everybody can do what he wants. it's a melting pot and the biggest ethnic group in the states (the germans) would hardly agree with you that they are of british cultural offspring. they only adapted the language and threw so many other things in themselves.
@@nightwish1000 Culture isn't mentioned in the constitution at all, but it derived from the culture of those who wrote it, who were, British subjects who rebelled against the Crown, and won. The culture of that time has adapted with time and demographic changes. Two of my great-grandparents came to America from Prussia, and you don't get more German than that, so as an ethnic German descendant I can attest that we did adopt the dominant culture here, though they are so closely related it hardly matters.
@@jamesruddy9264 what is the "dominant culture" in the USA? the consitution was written against the british crown and you try to make it an offspring of british culture. it was french and prussian generals who led that fight. the US constitution is completely different from british common law, you have completely different traditions and habits. a brit today is culturewise much closer to a continental european than to an american (language excluded). america unlike european countries is no culture nation, it's a melting pot, becoming predominently hispanic in some decades. it's exactly the non-presence of a defined american culture and certainly the lack of demand to assimilate as there is no basic "ethnic nation" that frightens many americans by feeling that their nation will break apart, that gives many a feeling of not being at home in their own country anymore and that makes them oppose to more foreign influx with all the bad consequences like racism and nationalism.
@@gooberdelbert1414 FACTS!
"My ancestors are better than your ancestors"
So is my people 2500 years and counting.
*were, they are no more
Tar Aldarion lol at angry white Americans and Northern Europeans! Yes, it was us, the Mediterranean, Southern Europeans who took you out of your fur skirts and mud painted faces! 😂😂
Fuck yeah! Freedom Warriors > Droids
@@obabas80 yup
Arminius is a freedom fighter .
osama bin laden had the same title back in the 80s.
Arminius was a traitor
He tricked the germans to get power for him self..... what he done is said no to modernity and pushed germans back into killing each other once the Romans left..... u dont know anything
Nope, he was a terrorist. And a traitor.
At the time. They later over threw him as a tyrant. Guess the real heroes are everyday Germans.
I love germans I have friends that are german LONG LIVE GERMANIA!!!
+conrad robledo : I do respect your friends, but I'm not fond about Germany and the Germans at all. For instance, my father had been arrested by the GESTAPO in Würzburg (1936) and risked also to land in Dachau 's Nazi-Lager if the Swiss diplomacy had not interferred. He was only an innocent student intended to learn better the German language. The paranoic Germans suspectd him to be a spy without any reasons, or better only because he had an " Italian face" and dark hairs (!) No comment..
+Sam Urai : OK !
+Sam Urai : However there is a German culture based on ancient tribal roots. Germans are used to obey to the superiors (the hierarchy or the antique tribal chief) whatever the orders are , without any sense of criticism. A sort of a Prussian "Kasernenmentalität"
(H. Hesse). That said , there is also the fact that Germany and Italy had very recent, far too young democracies, so that the criticism and the civil courage to react against a bad authoritarianism was not given at all. Nowadays things have fortunately changed, anyway with the risk that Angela Merkel is perceived as the new Goddess of the postmodern Germany
+Sam Urai : I hope so - she has to leave after too many years of stubborn policy !
@@marcob4630 that's blunt racism marco brenni. germans don't "obey to superiors". that's a dumb clichée coming from the last century. next to the french there is hardly a people with that many revolts and revolutions against the ruling elites than the germans.
Varus had one year left until retirement. He and his wife were going to travel around the world on a yacht called the "Live 4-Ever."
"Mendosaaaaaaaa!"
"Without a sword a german cannot be free" Sounds like the gun laws
Except the Germans were threatened by the most powerful empire at the time.
@@James-nq8eh The US empire has never truly cared about its people to begin with lol, your guns didn't help you get your rights, it was civil disobediance that got you concessions. The US military is invincible,if if a president turns into a Caesar there is no way you're gonna stop him.
@@James-nq8eh That was a rebellion against England, not the government of the United States, which is the subject of my reply to you, dumbass.
@@theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 I am an American and let me tell you that there is no enemy, foreign or domestic that can conquer us, behind EVERY blade of grass, behind EVERY rock and tree there is a gun in the hand of a proud European-American, the REAL Americans. There are no Civilians amongst our folk.
@@LucidWanderer "European-American" oh, so you are a monarchist? It must be hard living as a traitor amongst millions of people who consider themselves to be the inheritors of a state which rebelled against its European overlord and was formed consequently.
There is/should be more to being civilized than being technologically advanced, organized and having infrastructure. Often we overlook the trampling of basic human rights and dignity on the way to becoming civilized. It always amazes me that after so long we still treat other humans the way we always have. We have reached such heights in technology and "civilization" but have made little progress in how we treat our fellow man.
A very good documentary concerning a period of history that I have always found interesting. Thank you for posting.
I was really astounded by what young Arminius had accomplished throughout his 37 years of existence. I'm sort of asking myself how I can make an impact in this world in this generation.
Germans have always been great fighters! They deserve more praise! They fought off the enslaving monster that was the Roman empire
Wow, this is a great documentary.
The one thing is true - without a weapon man cannot be free. Even barbarians understood this but modern 'civilised' slaves cannot.
"Civilization" is no more than the self-domestication of mankind.
***** Very stupid comment. State cannot demand anything from free men - free men are state. You cannot be completely free of course, you have to come to some sort of agreement with other free men. If you are not allowed to carry weapon and nobody actually cares about what you think then you are a slave.
v ant oooh
Tell that to a good old boy from America!
William hopkins +
Man, this is a tough one for me. I love the Romans so much, but I am ethnically German and I love them too! Wish they could've been friends. Oh well.
I'm half German and half Italian lol
Unless that side of your family was from Roma itself, you're most likely one of the other Italian peoples, which were also enemies of Rome before they were conquered.
Yes, politically. But it was ethnically Latins.
I love Germans but not Romans, I am Turk
@@primstargazer2772 then you are at war with yourself.
In a sense, this documentary is amazing: in the first 10 seconds it completely took away all will I had to watch it.
Perfect example of unconventional tactics defeating a conventional army
one time, the Romans won the other 900 battles.
Vladimir Lenin
no actually they lost a good deal more than that but we're on top for a very long time there quit a few nations they could not subdue and a few they didnt even try
an old saying in war even nature is not neutral
Not really, not always. Whenever it was too cold, or too unprofitable (or depending on the emperor sitting at the throne), Roman forces would leave it. Happened in Germania and the lands we now know as Scotland. It was way more important, to the Empire's stability, to secure profitable regions and trading routes - these were the battles worth winning, and these they certainly won.
"The battles worth winning"???
Yeah, losing 3 crack legions - wiped out - was not big deal...
Come off it, already.
Let's just fast forward to the Germanics COMPLETELY conquering Rome! And then let's fast forward to Germany military in WW1 and WW2 versus Italians who LOST TO ETHIOPIANS!
And then let's fast forward to the economies today! And the cleanliness, too
Once more we have German domination.
So, enough with the BS, sweetbuns! And you're probably a crypto-Germanic, anyway - sleep on that tight stuff.
43:20 ....Thanks for spoiling it all....
+Hokage Minato hahah dick move right
+Hokage Minato Yeah just spoil the end.
your so precious
+Hokage Minato -Mattix dude i know what the fuck
+Hokage Minato -Mattix NOTE TO ALL VIEWERS:::: If you want to avoid a spoiler and a dick move by the video director. Please mute between (43:15) and (43:30)
“Varus would become the scapegoat for the greatest military disaster in Roman military history.” Apparently the producers forgot what occurred at Cannae during the Second Punic War.
The thing different about Cannae was that in the end, Rome was still able to beat Hannibal and destroy Carthage and the Senate itself really made no scapegoat and Instead just readied for more battles. Here, the Emperor would not be able to do so and Rome would never be able to push to the Elbe again, even with Germanicus' campaigns against Arminius and the Germans.
Imperial Era Rome was a different beast in terms of military and plus, they lost their eagles, something that didn't happen in Cannae. That, in and of itself, was a disaster to Rome.
MikiTiger Gaming and Reading Studios Sure, Rome lost three legions at Teutoburg and were never again able to attempt to conquer Germania. However, Rome lost six or seven legions at Cannae and was threatened with a possible sacking, unlike the events of Teutoburg. Therefore, given the circumstances Cannae seems to me to be the biggest Roman military disaster.
exactly, this is the most insignificant battle,ambush, in Roman history ....battle nr 70
Even against the teutons , before destroying them, the Romans lost way more soldiers in several terrible battles, and there were not so far away from Rome, not to talk about Hannibal Cannae Trebbia Trasimeno .
Germanicus the Arminio Vindicator won to battles after Teutoburg against Arminio but none decisive, the Romans decided then too high the price to pay for a land so far away from Rome ,not posing any danger and cold.Germanicus then growing too strong was poisoned in Asia minor.
The romans knew their legions were not in the perfect battlefield in the northern forests and probably calculated rather well the risk reward.
After Teutoburg Varo , man of honor committed suicide, like the japanese after ww2...it was not the case of the Nazis after ww2 who sneaked away with fake documents made by the vatican or the red cross...
Thank you oh so much for uploading this for us....
I really was in need of something very special tonight....
Great documentary, thanks to this event we weren't romanized. Greetings from 🇨🇭 whose ancestors are the alemanni, who were a subtribe of the suebi :)
Funny...the cubans I know call Germany Allimania, and called me Alimanni.
I corrected them, HoiDeutsch, from North Germany. ☺
PUBLIUS QUINCTILIUS VARUS GIVE ME BACK MY LEGIONS
THE REIGN OF THE OLD SHOGUNATE IS OVER!
hell to the no man they dead bruh
Arminius got his training in Rome. He knew that his tribal warriors were no match on a wide open plain. Therefore he lured the legions into swamp, jungle and mountain. Yet his early training in Italy fostered the success, because he knew the enemy's tactics.
Jungle? In northern europe?
@@rollothewalker5535
Listen kid, your name is strange. Where do you really side, Romans or the Germanic peoples(which includes the Norse Vikings you worship)? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Rome fell from within - same as today in Europe.
thx to bilderberggroup.same with America and the majority of the world
***** It's called history.
***** What did Pres. Nixon say about Rome: "Nero married a gay (edited) boy....etc." On the Tapes you would love it. 1972.
It's more complicated than that, though. Even the fact that Rome "fell" is quitye questionable. The western Roman Empire fell, right (ultimately destroyed by one of its barbarian generals, oh the irony), but the "barbarians" quickly adopted roman culture. It was never destroyed - in fact, it even flourished. The "Dark Ages" are bullshit. The legacy of Rome survived and contributed to shape the era we know as the Middle Ages, the era that gave birth to our civilisation. It's more of a slow evolution than a brutal fall.
Lord Shadoko I think everybody agrees that the water sources and other heated baths and such were destroyed by ignorance over time. Modern to non-urban modern you could say that water sources were the eletricity of those many thousand years?
Anyone think the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest would make a good horror movie? Creepy forests, unknown terrain, and bloody thirsty tribesmen lurking behind the trees!
Well it made a fantastic strategic level in the video game Rome II: Total War, so a movie adaptation about Arminius and the The Great Massacre at Teutoburg Forrest could work.
I can't believe Varus led 20,000 men with civilians and baggage trains into that forest. What the hell was he thinking? That seems like the worst choice he could have made, even if he was lied to and told that there was a rebel German force that was waiting for him to cut him off in the open battlefield. He had to have known that he couldn't use his 20,000 soldiers effectively in that German forest. "What madness drove them in there?"
Some historians think that he was literaly in a moral dilemma. He just could not believe that Arminius, a well trustet roman citizen, knight and war-hero could betray him.
And why he choosed the way through the forest? It was perhaps the fastest way back.
Romans believed they were invincible and so underestimated their enemy. Never in his wildest dream did Varus imagine that Germans who had no concept of military strategy (as understood in Roman sense) could launch such a well planned ambush.
More the likely Varus trusted Arminus too much, and like many Romans in the occupied territories he treated the native population like trash, and believed that Arminus, having been raised in Roman territory wouldn't harbor any sort of grudge and even if he had suspicion that Arminus was planning on betraying him, he believed Roman military might would win the day. However when the ambush happened the Roman soldiers were exhausted, and disorented...that trust he showed allowed Arminus to pick the battlefield, and in the forest the lightly armed and armored Germans had the advantage of knowing the terrain and were able to move and attack faster then the exhausted Romans
DangerDan it was common in ancient times there thoughts were easy to defend
DangerDan he heard about the free cookies and couldn't ressist
Varius, GIVE ME BACK MY LEGIONS!!!!!!!!!!
True !
Knowing Roman history, I can say that when it came to Roman defeats and the sack of Rome, they really got what they deserved.
Germanicus has done justice after few years..
crossed the Rhine with his legions, killed Arminius the traitor and anyone else he met on his way, has buried the dead legionaries and, above all, he has recovered the Eagles.
This is the end of that story.
lazios: you're right indeed - the revenge by the Romans was tremendous, however they decided not to occupy an useless and cold northern Barbaric land. But I doubt that Arminiuss had been catched and killed by the Romans, in reality he had been assassinated by the German tribes themseves, because of his tirannycal character and the tendency to be a fake, an enormous liar
+ John Smith - yes they did : read the Roman history !
Honor and glory for Germania !!! And Germany of cause ...
"People should know when they're conquered." -- Quintus
"Would you, Quintus ... Would I?" -- Maximus Decimus Meridius
Exceptional documentary reveals real historical hero of Europe
awesome documentary.
the Decoration and costumes look spot on .
very realistic
i feel like i have seen real ancient Rome in this documentary
The Lost Legions of Varus is what they were discussing at the start of the video. It was one of Rome's worst defeats in their history.
Fascinating subject... The narrator's statement about one hour in, that the Germanic tribesmen's weapons were 'inferior' is slightly irritating - mainly because it's wrong. The Romans had better armour certainly, and some weapons unavailable to the Cherusci, but in terms of basic combat weaponry, both Celtic and Germanic swords, spears and axes were as good or better than Roman equivalents. (I love how he says the Cherusci had 'wooden spears', as if the shafts of Roman spears were made of something else!)
Oh please ! everyone knows the Romans invented carbon nano tubes and tungsten carbide. The Germanic tribes didn't stand a chance against the many many 27 megaton thermo nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles with multiple re entry vehicles that the Romans had mounted to there nitro methane powered top fuel rail chariots.
@@nickacelvn Uhhh one question then... How did barbarians sack Rome then? And, dare I ask, win?
@@svefnhnuturthorgeirsson obviously the suitcase with the launch codes was stuck in traffic on the m25
@@nickacelvn Ah, now that's a good point. However, the German beer missiles did seem to make everyone generally quite happy and in the mood for fucking.
They always lie.
Rome sounds like the EU
NWO
Lol there was already a sort of Brexit like 1700 years ago with Rome as the Eu
USA will fall, England will fall.
Cassius Dio will russia fall????
I had the absolute pleasure to live in the South of Germany, Bavaria. I sipped wine in old Roman baths converted to parks in the heart of the city of Augsburg. I seen countryside so beautiful it made me cry. The Germans were wonderfully kind and after leaving, going back to USA- I was a lost soul. Ive lived in 5 US states- California, Colorado, Alabama, Oregon, Nevada (and a little time in New York)- NOTHING compared to Germany. Germany made USA feel third world. I could never understand how people could define a culture thats over 1000 years by 15 years.Not to make light of the wars, but worst things happened before the Holocaust, during the Holocaust and after the Holocaust. Look up The Killing Fields if you doubt. No peoples has clean hands and the Germans have ALOT to be proud of and still do. Go to South Germany- you will come back with pride to the gills. - American born Italian/Mexican girl.
As a German-American born in 1964, I find this fascinating. I must confess, this humble soul is not as educated as I might think. History is not taught anymore and perceived "bad guys" are everywhere. Bottom line ... we must all learn more history and stop watching what is now called "Network News." War is Hell, but a complex and ugly fact of life.
For those interested, Roman retaliation took form in a series of punitive expeditions led by General Germanicus Julius Caesar. Germanicus utterly crushed the barbarians time after time from 14 AD to 16 AD, less than 10 years after the disaster at Teutoburg Forest.
did you not watch the end? Germanicus didnt avenge anything and Rome never moved past the Rhine
@@theoyanceyGermanicus was called back by the emperor out of fear of another Julius Caesar situation. Similar to what happened to stilicho.
I had no idea that Hugh Laurie had joined the legions of Rome (17.23) - and still fighting those damn Gerries 1900 years later. What a soldier !!!!!!!!!!.
I've seen Germans reenacting living and working as Roman soldiers. These particular guys actually learned & used the Latin commands while doing things like " falling to formation for roll call, " or " going through the process of firing a ballista or a catapult. " & " maneuvering during a battle. " This served to enhance a sense of realism while they " were fighting for the Empire & the " Eternal City ". While in England for a summer, I got to don the armor & fight against the ancient Britons who were resisting the great civilizing power of Trajan's legions. The reenacting Romans from England simply spoke English. Good for me as I only speak English and rus
Wonderful documentary. I enjoyed watching it. Thank you RUclips,
Excellent documentary!
I don't think they all had dirty faces. They swam in rivers. Is it realistic to portray them this way?
No they were obviously all handsome symmetrical gods at all times
@Gott Mit Uns And third, Barbarian occupation of Italy lasted only 100 years whit Ostroghot empire,before Bizantinians come and send your shitty people back to their beloved Germany.
@@DrEcKiGeRDaN88 Go eat your rat meat in the jungle.
@@ernestov1777
We got no jungle in japan my friend.
@@DrEcKiGeRDaN88 A Japanese defending Germans, the joke tells himself.
Ag good video! The Celts - the older, hippy/artist brother of the Germans - had imported Greek wares and culture, they were becoming urbanised just as Caesar destroyed them, the Romans could relate to them to a fair degree (and their Latin ancestors were not dissimilar to the Celts) living in a World with centuries of urban culture the dark Teutoburger Forest and it's fierce inhabitants would have been quite a shock. The Romans did come to admire the Germans though, in various respects.
Where was the steroided up German guy from Gladiator?
You mean Ralf Moeller?
@Klenovvy_Syrop
Copy & Paste this in Google and search it: "Ralf Möller"
Wow, this documentary is amazing.
Most videos about Germania's fight against Rome seem to forget about Arminius's brother. At least this one remembers Flavius.
ARMinius and LEGius
GERMANIA BROTHERS 🇩🇪💪🏼
Arminius was German just as birth, him has been raised as a Roman soldier, and it's thanks to this that has been able to defeat Roman Legions.
And obviously has taken advantage from the Romans trust and an incompetent commander as Quintilius Varo.
Or do you believe that it was a case not to have fought against the Romans in the open field?
Arminius knew very well that in a direct fight would have lost, has been smart.. bravo him.
What makes me smile is that the "modern" Germans make him as a hero, forgetting that in reality, at the end ..him was defeated.
Everyone pretends to not remember what happened a few years later this battle..
The great Germanicus crossed the Rhine with its legions and defeats EVERYONE, putting to fire and sword everything that he met on his way.
Recovering the Eagles (2 on 3) of Varus' Legions.
This is the REAL end of the story (THIS story).
Arminio don't only lost, but didn't even realize his dream, given that the first German unification it happened in reality with the Carolingian Empire before (Charlemagne Emperor of all the Romans) and then with Otto I of Saxony, first Holy ROMAN Emperor (King of German and Italy).
Same laws..
same Religion (where were crowned?).
Do you really believe that Rome has lost? LOL
nope modern germany doesn't portray him as ahero, simply because the nazis did it. But yes i still believe that they fucked rome right into their little pussies
Rome was the most beautiful society the world has ever seen , Roman standards of medicine were not met for nearly 2000 years in the Victorian era let alone the architecture shame it did not call the whole world it's imperium.
Hard to feel sorry for the Romans considering the amount of cruel things they did in their rise to power and after....Well done docudrama that kept my interest
Awesome documentary. Thanks for posting.
good docu, cant believe havent seen it before heh
yay for youtube
"Quintus Varius.......give me back my onions." a severely syphilitic Augustus Caesar was often heard to mutter.
Germaina had dragons, Romans had no chance
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They have drachenlord
@@oscardighton8580 oh dear god....
NICHT DER DRACHENLORD!
@Carmicha3l I'm not sure if the Germanians were that much better...
wales had dragons too, and scotland have a crazy navy and lochness monster aka kraken. Lol
Awesome video. Thank you.
a true hero of his people, thanks for the documentary.
I don't know why,this is remind me of empire vs stormcloack to take Skyrim
Anyone else notice their shields are wrong? They would've used the forearm grip at this point with the handle much closer to the side of the shield
+Tibo Smolders Not necessarily true. Centre grip shields were common in this period.
For Wotan and Donar!
steven03048 and Tiwaz?
That two you said is eren friends?
@@kimput7983 They're the Germanic gods.
Superior video!!! Thank you!!!
Great show. Pieced together from disciplines and evidence.
yep, german state TV - not "history channel" - thats the difference between fact and bullfiction
zoolkhan
"German state TV" and "facts", erm....
Maxim Kretsch nothing is perfect, but private tv is definetely the worst. not even you could argue against that.
zoolkhan
At least the private channels don't claim to be politically neutral. On the other hand they're economically independent whilst each household and each company in Germany is obliged to finance the public tv and radio stations. So in fact I doubt that the private channels are "worse".
Maxim Kretsch they are not independant - that is exatly the problem. they do what their main sponsor tells them to do, and there is no comitte ensuring neutrality.
I can flood you with prime examples of private TV catering for the stammtisch-mainstream, thus dropping important facts under the table that would overwhelm the stammtisch. (people like you)
Is it me or do those roman shields look abit too flat o.o
+Smith Smith As typical in these documentries, the gear is piss poor, and would be refused by 99.9% of the reenactment groups.
So many triggered italians in the comment section
The only one who is triggered is you pro barbarians telling historical bullshits. Get your facts right. Germania got destroyed by Rome, and this documentary is a joke.
Lol proving his point^^
There is so many triggered Italian/Germans in comment section both not right....
Lol Rich coming from a dog-eater. Go eat your noodles fuckin sperg.
@@ernestov1777 Didnt the germanic tribes take over the roman empire? :D
Oh, all the racist comments are too fun to read. Fighting over who's best after all this time. Should we not learn from history rather than fight?
is that so?
No kidding. Human progress? BAHAHA!
NO son there is NO blackness in my DNA...yours maybe not mine...LOL
Anti-Rome s code for anti-white! Fuck Germany!
Learning from history is to learn that globalism and multiculturalism such as that which the Roman Empire attempted only leads to conflict and blood. You are a slave and the word "racist" is rhetoric to enforce your enslavement.
This is an excellent documentary are there any more about ancient history from this source?
Good story love history an great battles an wars an studying many cultures u can learn so much knowledge from such studying.
I love how the Romans just tip over like dominoes when they get hit by the initial charge
Arminius, William Wallace, Spartacus, Leonidas.... symbols of hope against a crushing empire. We are long overdue for another one.
There was one. The 20th century had one who understood marxism as the greatest culture destroying force for globalist ends. But for the money grubblers, their printhouse brethren and bought-out buddies all manipulating politicians, contriving events and propagandizing populaces into 2 Great Brother Wars he would have been as victorious as Hermann. Bolshevism/marxism/communism would have been destroyed.
The globalists' greatest achievement of the 20th century was successfully dividing Greater Germania into opposing sides and then have them annihiliate each other in 2 money spinning wars in the most treasured and beautiful continent on Earth.
International (Globalising) Marxism achieved more in 20 years than its religious (xian) form had done in 1500 years of brutal conversions and interreligious conflicts. This success in decimating the manhood of Europe and traumatising those who made it through left a chasm into which the surrogate marxist culture of tolerance, multiculturism, relativism, nilhilism, disdain for beauty and merit, apathy, militant feminism and diminished masculinism was seeded.
The printhouses are still lying about him; the money grubblers are still unceasingly thievng money and accumulating power and the bought-out buddies have multiplied and have useful indoctrinated true believers as acolytes and supporting all this is a dumbed down population with a daddy fixation on big govt as all benevolent.
And here we are with 3 camps, the sleepwalkers, the aware and the awakened. With the first lot being useless that leaves the aware with some wishing a someone to take us all in hand and lead us through the greatest fight ever faced by ALL the races of humanknd while others sit back "knowing" the jesus character will soon end it all with his return; OR the truly awakened knowing the above options, in respective order, are futile and fanciful and that the only way to thwart the coming feudal economic, technocratic totalitarian world governance system is grassroots revival of localism and ethnic cultural ways.
"Forbidding free men to bear weapons..." "Forcing churuskians to live like slaves..." Sound familiar America?
Not being able to carry a murder weapon would be positive if somehow you could get everybody to comply, which obviously wouldn't happen. This was a much more primitive and violent time where many 'un-moral' practices were very common. I wouldn't use a Civilisation that used to watch slaves slice each other to death as entertainment, an effective comparison for your argument.
This story is exactly Skanderbeg's story. Skanderbeg (the guy that gave Albania independence from Ottoman empire) was taken to the Ottoman court as a kid, raised to be a military commander and then turned on the Ottoman empire for Albanian (Shqiperi) independence.
sometimes i just have a need to watch documentaries idk why
Haha your profile picture- grug
"Quintilius Varus, where are my Legions? Give me back my legions!" - Augustus.
"Quintillius Varus, ubi legionibus meis? Legiones redde!!"- Augustus.
Interesting documentary. Hard to watch as a Rome fan... ;)
I think everyone likes to see Rome get beaten up once in a while and this is a good beating!
+Daryle Cosgrove A good beating ? You are an awkward barbarian admirer. Rome is still now visited by millions of tourists every year, whereas Germany is avoided as being the most unattractive land in Europe !
+marco brenni Are you kidding, Marco? Germany the most unattractive land in Europe? Have you been here, if not shut up! Do you know how many millions of tourists are visiting Germany - even Berlin - per year? Most of the tourists visiting Italy come because of the nice weather that is better in the south of course. I have been in Rome and Sicily some years ago and we were astonished how dirty these places were. More dirty than every other land we visited in south Europe. And not to compare with Scandinavia, Netherlands, England - and Germany. It seems to me that the North is the civilized part of todays Europe.
Stop discussing emotionally and nationalistic. Cheers
+Hans Albring. Indeed Germany is far cleaner than Italy , but this is just secondary. Italy has a hudge number of historical cities, monuments, art in general and also good food. I have visited many time parts of Germany, but I ever had this strange uncomofortable feeling of an after-war land. The main cities have been destroyed included the historical places. A few have been rebuilt like Nürnberg or Würzburg (beautiful !) but others are nowadays only banal - trivial with a very anonymous architecture : Köln (except the Dom, Berlin, Hamburg , Ulm-except the Dom, etc.) I've very appreciated Augst, Munich, Freiburg, Lübeck and others which all have a rebuilt historical center; even Dresden (!) In my opinion the best way to visit Germany is to avoid the principal cities.
+marco brenni I agree, most of the historical places have been destroyed during the war and often have been rebuilt with an awful simple architecture in the fifties. The population needed houses immediately and it was a great performance of the German women to build the country up. Italian food? Excellent! I'm just back from my Italian friends and had an excellent dinner...:)
I see you have been travelling a lot in Germany, I am in Siena in July and in Rome in October. Like the country.
+Hans Albring : I like Italy too even with all the deficiencies: corruption, filth, indiscipline etc. I'm Swiss living near the Italian border therefore I know Italians very well. As ticinesi we share the same language and culture,moreover also the German culture because of the Swiss-Germans who are the hudge majority. Ticino is a sort of a colony of the Swiss-germans. In facts, we have been colonized since the 16- Centrury.
Really good documentary ty
I think it would have been interesting if they had talked about the connection between the resultant borders of these two cultures and the areas that identify as Catholic vs Protestant. It's a schism with 2000 years of history and it would've been interesting to hear about the fallout from this event