German Bombers Over New York City: Junkers Ju 390
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- Опубликовано: 17 апр 2023
- In this video, we discuss the Junkers Ju 390, a seldom photographed prototype bomber from Nazi Germany's Amerikabomber project. We discuss the origins of the project, the creation of the Ju 390, and the great myth of its alleged undetected flight over New York City.
But really, there are only a handful of pictures of the Ju 390, all of them low resolution.
Another use of the Ju-390 would be Bombing the Ural Mountains then refuel in Japanese whole northern China or push it all the way to Sapporo Chitose Airbase in Hokkaido from Germany then back to Germany via the same bombing route they used to reach Japan. To sum it up the German Amerikabomber is the transatlantic version Ural Bomber programme. Excellent video in order to debunk the Myth
Yes,I was going to say that. Germany never envisioned the need for a strategic bomber force,but it could have greatly aided their war effort on the Eastern front.
@mikedunn7795 You are correct but speaking of the Ural Bomber it was planned by General Walther Weaver since he knew that Strategic bombing is in the future. However, he died in 1936 which is why the Germans are left with Tactical Bombers
@@EpicThe112 Germany entered the war with the aim of achieving quick victories,and tactical bombers would be all they needed. Even Hitler believed they would lose if the war became an attritional battle,as Germany did not have the fuel or food for extended fighting.
Thanks. This subject needed debunking. Mission accomplished.
Inclusion of metric would be appreciated (at least in the slides). It really helps people outside of the United States (e.g. if we remember specifications from other aircraft, we can compare them in our heads more easily if we don't have to do a conversion in our heads while the video is playing).
The American have to do the conversions in engineering every day of their working lives, as do most Americans, they perform multiple conversion all the time. They call it American efficiency.
@@user-en9zo2ol4z ha ha!
"American efficiency" is what it says when you Google 'oxymoron'.
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Now you know how the rest of us feel when people start off with metric . Then WE have to do conversions in our heads lol.
So don’t convert. Just revert to normal units. Problem solved.
Where was Germany going to get the fuel for these things?
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Isn’t that why James Chase and the Battlehawks had to destroy that JU-390 facility in “Secret Weapons Over Normandy”?
If the Germans had actually tried this, their first raid or two might have done some damage. After that...well, the Regensberg/Schweinfurt mission shows what might have happened...because the Germans had fighter escort. Unlike the Japanese, the Americans had several types of fighter that performed well at high altitude [p-38, P-47, P-51], and the unescorted bombers would have been savaged.
The vertical tail surfaces look awfully small for such a large machine. The directional stability would probably be marginal, and I don't want to contemplate the asymmetric thrust case.
It's weird, because Canada and the US thought the only feasible route was from Norway across the arctic, and actually prepared air defences in case of such attacks, but Germany didn't seem to really consider that option.
That's an interesting idea. Perhaps the Germans had learned about these defenses and chose the alternate route to avoid them.
Flying at -30 C?
There were certainly FEARS earlier in the war after the terrible bombings of Britain that the Germans MIGHT HAVE THE CAPABILITY to bomb the eastern US since the Japanese had made some attacks on the West Coast that aroused many fears. A dreadful night club fire had occurred in Boston in late November 1942 when my mom was a physician on duty and victims were being brought into the Mass General Hospital. She later remarked that though terrible it was a marvelous training exercise for what might have been an actual attack and how to respond.
Excellent work bro
A very long range Luftwaffe would have been very useful as a recon aircraft at tracking convoys. Fortunately that mission wasn’t a Luftwaffe priority.
Right. Prior to 1939, the Luftwaffe had foreseen no need or concept for strategic bombing.
(By the way, for non- German, their Air Force is pronounced “look-waffa”. Anglesised, it should still be “looft-waff”. Can we agree it’s ok for English speakers, especially Aussies and Yanks, to Anglesise, rather than fighting over how Junkers, Arado and even 99 luftballons?
@@papadopp3870 …. The FW 200 Condor was a terrific asset for locating convoys. Relaying the positions for U-Boats to attack. However the aircraft was adapted from a long range airliner. Into a military configuration which tended to break it’s back on landings. More FW 200’s would have potentiated Doenitz’s anti-shipping campaign to be much more destructive. Thank god for Goering being pig headed!
Maybe if 'D-2600' was painted on V-2s side, she could have been scrapped in Argentina; that big cargo ramp would have been great 4 schlepping Hitler's stolen goodies & Eva's trousseau
I like the looks of the aircraft but have always thought that the New York flight was hogwash. Considering just how difficult it was for the U.S. to develop the B-29 in a country that had nearly unlimited resources and whose defense industries were NOT being attacked, Germany was in NO position to turn this thing into a viable weapon. Why would they risk one of the prototypes in a
pointless, "showboat" mission? The supposed missions to Japan at least would have served a purpose.
Ju 390 use powerplant by BMW 801E engines(deploying about at 1,975hp), They originally planned for BMW 802 or DB 604 or Jumo 223 engine, But three new and over 2,000hp engine has tested to fail and no massive production, They have use BMW 801E engine to give Ju 390, And that try to use BMW 801Q(turbocharger) or 801R(two stage four speed supercharger) give Ju 390 more flying high speed and high altitude to deporting Ju 390 strategic bomber version, But it is never exists upgrade project.
Germany was not the only country trying to develop an intercontinental bomber. The US was developing the B-36 bomber starting in 1941. They feared Britain would be defeated and wanted a bomber that could reach Europe from the US. When it became apparent the Britain would not fall after the US entered the war it was put on the back shelf. Then it was dusted off when it was thought a long range bomber would be needed to reach Japan and development was restarted with more effort. Still it was late in the war and the first B-36 did not fly until August 1946. While deployed to carry nuclear bombs it never saw combat. It was plagued with problems and had a history of engine fires and engine failures.
The trip would have taken two flight crews, and if the chief test pilot knew nothing about the flight, as he is quoted as saying, I think it's a safe bet to assume the flight didn't happen.
Would have been a big shock to the Americans if bombs did rain down on east coast cities, though.
Once. It would only work once.
The Islands are called the az ORS not the azorees or azorays
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There looks to be an awful lot of windows in that 'bomber'...
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IHYLS yes that is true the US would have to strengthen there home defense or do what they did with Japan drop an atomic bomb on berlin in revenge
Eh maybe it made it made it to new york and back but unlike the photo you constantly show I highly doubt it would have been done at such low altitude and it would have made the trip at very high altitude if it made it out of European borders at all
Given how good Bletchley Park became at decoding German radio traffic, I think they would have picked up on this project pretty quickly if the aircraft actually got into the air.
The german subs kept radio silence when on missions, it can be assumed long range bomber flights would do the same.
Really its the lack of photos that makes this questionable.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 And yet the British kept finding U-Boats.
I think the story of the New York flight makes more sense as domestic propaganda than necessarily as a conscious lie by the prisoners. Perhaps even just some rumors going around the troops without any official source or confirmation. Realistically the prospect of bombing mainland U.S. would hardly have any meaningful strategic significance for the war with the resources Germany had at its disposal, but the idea itself enhanced with the soldiers' imagination would certainly boost morale to some extent.
Everything i have seen, the plane did cross the Atlantic to about 28 miles wway from New York. Did it happen. Is questionable, however you can't completely rule it out.
We can. There's simply no evidence of it happening. For one, it would've had to get past Britain without being noticed.
@@anzaca1 Again there are 8ndications of such a flight, whether they are true or not can be debated. As to getting past Britain, the German's conducted long range mairtime recon. The limitations of radar in those days were greater and the locations fewer. Fly south or north of Britain and you fly through holes in radar coverage at the time. So avoiding radar detection was more than possible.
They didn't have a real 4 engine bomber - double engines bomber is not a good working design
Shirley if they had flown to America they woukd have taken some bombs with them. Wasnt that the point
It could be they just wanted to see if they had the range before calculating on how many tons of bombs they would be able to take.
Of course they never made it to NYC. Not even close.
Its pronounced AZOR
Every time you say it, the 3 generations of portuguese in me screams in agony
Anybody that fights merica on its own soil gets 2 free bombs 😀
dude, the W in waffe is like a V ok
No. It’s not. Yours, Alphabet-Gestapo.
@@808bigisland if speaking with a german accent it is like a swedish V i suppose
@@808bigisland Wrong, you do pronounce W's like V, I took a German class, If you say "Was?" You don't say it like was. you say it like "Vvas"
Long-winded B.S. with all still pics. Useless info.
Computerized voice. Had to quit watching due to the numerous mispronunciations of words.