Thank you for the knowledge. Very refreshing to hear someone who provides a professional description about a product’s capability, uses, and limitations.
Ver nice, when I clicked on this video I wasn’t expecting it to be so informative. I learned a lot about Thunderbolt and I finally understand why I can’t find a TB4 dock that supports 3 monitors reliably. I really appreciated that deep dive.
I love the review and what a great explanation you did covering all the different ports. Very nice job man, keep up the good work. I gave it a like and also subscribed, you deserve it 👍🏻
The problem with sleep mode is a PIA. These devices have been struggling wiht that issue for as long as I can remember. It does impact the functionality because you can't really think of your laptop as a desktop fully which is the whole point.
Great technical video Wayne...I had some discussions with another RUclipsr complaining about I/O on the Pluggable TBT3-UDZ (as if 14-to-1 isn't enough), but I told them that TB3 spec makes having additional I/O extremely problematic. Most people aren't aware that the issues they were having is that they were maxing out either the lane or the full bandwidth of the device - it's not that the Pluggable device was the issue, it was that TB3 didn't really provide what they really wanted. This CalDigit dock is amazing...I'm a huge fan of it! Nice in-depth review...really enjoyed the video.
Wayne, this is a very off topic question so please forgive me. I'm a retired computer geek and have taken up photography and printing. Of the tens of thousands of videos on RUclips covering these two topics I find yours have taught me the most. Your series on monitor and print color management was superb. At an early point in my journey it succeeded in shifting my perspective and my approach to learning. I purchased a BenQ and ColorThink Pro to help me produce the best prints I can on my Epson P900. I've accepted that I'm going to be (and have been) wasting a bit more money than I'd like experimenting with different papers to best print my photos but I've hit an intellectual wall, revealed by ColorThink Pro 3D profile graphing, where I have colors in a photo that are wildly out of gamut on any and all papers from the Big Four paper makers not only on my P900 but would also be on your P9570 with its additional inks. Pulling them in so far to get them into gamut ruins the (color) reason the scene drew my eye and my lens in the first place. Why is this? Why can't certain colors be reproduced by state-of-the-art inkjet printers? Is it a technical barrier? A business decision to focus on the sweet spot due to the increased costs of chasing the outer edges of gamut? Once again, very off topic with this video and I apologize but I didn't know how else or where else to ask.
Sry to take so long to get back, I’m so busy being “retired” I don’t get around to answering these fast enough. Regarding your frustration, understand ColorThink is a great educational tool, but really isn’t necessary in a color managed workflow. There is no need to “pull” your colors into an output space,. that’s the entire purpose of color management systems, to map the colors in file to an output space, and if implemented correctly it does it very well. Manually manipulating them into the color space is just asking for trouble. Despite all the amazing science and technology, nothing is close the gamut of human vision, especially on the output side. Nothing can reproduce the colors that are captured by a high end digital camera. However, the brains ability to interpret what it sees does a nice job of compensating. A good example is a well printed book of photographs. The CMYK process to print that book is limited to much smaller color spaces than that of current high end inkjet printers, yet the colors in the book are clear, rich, and are great to view. As I said, a well implemented color management workflow will take care of all of this.
Such an informative thorough video, thank you for the work! I'm trying to understand which hub could replace caldigit ts4 on travel? an option that doesn't need to be powered, small, mostly usb (not type 3)... is there anything you'd recommand?
I have 10 non powered external drives (for photo storage) and wish to know whether I can safely piggyback 1 or 2 hubs to the dock (when editing photo's) without impairing performance of the main dock.
I assume they are USB drives and you you want to daisy chain a USB hub from the Caldigit? As far as bandwidth should be OK in my mind, since you aren’t actually accessing more than one of those devices at a time, and the TB4 bandwidth should be fine handling the USB data. I would mention that I’ve had a little trouble getting a USB dock to be reliable coming out of the USB ports on the cal digit. Some devices I can no longer see (such as my Bose sound, and my Logitech webcam. Some devices work just fine out of the hub. haven’t tested a USB drive.
Great review! Thanks for the video. One question, if you connect some some heafphones via jack to the Caldigit TS4, can it be volume controlled via mac keyboard? Like when you connect directly to the Mac. Thanks for your help
Caldigit finally made a firmware updater available for the Mac. There has been an updater for Windows for quite some time, which is puzzling since this device is probably more common used by Mac users. The updating process is odd, without proper feedback and some puzzling text in the dialog boxes, but I managed to get the new firmware on. As far as whether it fixed the problem, too soon to say, but it does seem to be better. I just installed it a couple of weeks ago and set my system to allow hard drives to sleep when possible. Optimistic it resolves the issue. Still no go with my old USB 2.0 hub. Guess I’ll have to get a new one.
I would be surprised if it worked. I’ve heard of some hacks that get around the 2 display limit, but I think the limit something in the hardware and related to the M1 chip.
Hello, In near future I will buy new macbookpro and I know this will be great product to have. But my question at that moment is next. Can I connect TS4 on old Imac27 that has two Thunderbolt 1 that is limited to 10gbits....I can use minidp cabel to Apple adapter and then to TS4... Will this work for me? On which port on TS4 should I connect the cabel from computer? Thank you
Finally someone who can explain the difference of Thunderbolt 3 and 4.
Thank you for the knowledge. Very refreshing to hear someone who provides a professional description about a product’s capability, uses, and limitations.
thanks
Great review, thank you. It's great that you described the specifications so precisely, never have seen this before :)
Thanks. The whole TB3-TB4 is a little confusing.
Phenomenal review! I really appreciate the comparison to the older model and hitting on some of the issues you've come across.
thanks
Ver nice, when I clicked on this video I wasn’t expecting it to be so informative. I learned a lot about Thunderbolt and I finally understand why I can’t find a TB4 dock that supports 3 monitors reliably. I really appreciated that deep dive.
Thx.
Thanks Mr. Fox - that was an incredibly thorough introduction to the Caldigit TS4!
Well done, Wayne! Absolutely one of the most-informative videos I have seen on any channel.
Thanks 👍
I love the review and what a great explanation you did covering all the different ports. Very nice job man, keep up the good work. I gave it a like and also subscribed, you deserve it 👍🏻
Much appreciated!
Excellent review, Wayne. Clear, logical, and full of platform knowledge, which helped.
Much appreciated!
Thanks Wayne- as usual, you cut to the chase without all the blather. Thanks again!
The problem with sleep mode is a PIA. These devices have been struggling wiht that issue for as long as I can remember. It does impact the functionality because you can't really think of your laptop as a desktop fully which is the whole point.
Great technical video Wayne...I had some discussions with another RUclipsr complaining about I/O on the Pluggable TBT3-UDZ (as if 14-to-1 isn't enough), but I told them that TB3 spec makes having additional I/O extremely problematic. Most people aren't aware that the issues they were having is that they were maxing out either the lane or the full bandwidth of the device - it's not that the Pluggable device was the issue, it was that TB3 didn't really provide what they really wanted. This CalDigit dock is amazing...I'm a huge fan of it! Nice in-depth review...really enjoyed the video.
I agree, the new docks really are designed for TB4, using them with TB3 may be problematic.
One word: accuracy. Thank you
Great video! Have been looking into getting this, the info I’ve been looking for. Keep up the great content
Best review of the ts4 out there. Thanks, Wayne
Wayne, this is a very off topic question so please forgive me. I'm a retired computer geek and have taken up photography and printing. Of the tens of thousands of videos on RUclips covering these two topics I find yours have taught me the most. Your series on monitor and print color management was superb. At an early point in my journey it succeeded in shifting my perspective and my approach to learning. I purchased a BenQ and ColorThink Pro to help me produce the best prints I can on my Epson P900. I've accepted that I'm going to be (and have been) wasting a bit more money than I'd like experimenting with different papers to best print my photos but I've hit an intellectual wall, revealed by ColorThink Pro 3D profile graphing, where I have colors in a photo that are wildly out of gamut on any and all papers from the Big Four paper makers not only on my P900 but would also be on your P9570 with its additional inks. Pulling them in so far to get them into gamut ruins the (color) reason the scene drew my eye and my lens in the first place. Why is this? Why can't certain colors be reproduced by state-of-the-art inkjet printers? Is it a technical barrier? A business decision to focus on the sweet spot due to the increased costs of chasing the outer edges of gamut? Once again, very off topic with this video and I apologize but I didn't know how else or where else to ask.
Sry to take so long to get back, I’m so busy being “retired” I don’t get around to answering these fast enough. Regarding your frustration, understand ColorThink is a great educational tool, but really isn’t necessary in a color managed workflow. There is no need to “pull” your colors into an output space,. that’s the entire purpose of color management systems, to map the colors in file to an output space, and if implemented correctly it does it very well. Manually manipulating them into the color space is just asking for trouble. Despite all the amazing science and technology, nothing is close the gamut of human vision, especially on the output side. Nothing can reproduce the colors that are captured by a high end digital camera. However, the brains ability to interpret what it sees does a nice job of compensating. A good example is a well printed book of photographs. The CMYK process to print that book is limited to much smaller color spaces than that of current high end inkjet printers, yet the colors in the book are clear, rich, and are great to view. As I said, a well implemented color management workflow will take care of all of this.
Wayne, thank you so much. An incredible overview that helped me make the right decision. TS4 it is. Now what to do with my TS3? smile
Man that is a nice office!
FANTASTIC review!!!!!!
thanks
Awesome review, Thank you!
Such an informative thorough video, thank you for the work!
I'm trying to understand which hub could replace caldigit ts4 on travel? an option that doesn't need to be powered, small, mostly usb (not type 3)... is there anything you'd recommand?
just amazing review. Can we connect 3 External monitors to this? 1 via display port , 2 via Thunderbolt to HDMI cables on hub?
Not sure if it supports 3. It may only support 2, regardless of the ports used.
This was practical and awesome..
Thanks.
Very nice informative video !
Thanks a lot
I have 10 non powered external drives (for photo storage) and wish to know whether I can safely piggyback 1 or 2 hubs to the dock (when editing photo's) without impairing performance of the main dock.
I assume they are USB drives and you you want to daisy chain a USB hub from the Caldigit? As far as bandwidth should be OK in my mind, since you aren’t actually accessing more than one of those devices at a time, and the TB4 bandwidth should be fine handling the USB data. I would mention that I’ve had a little trouble getting a USB dock to be reliable coming out of the USB ports on the cal digit. Some devices I can no longer see (such as my Bose sound, and my Logitech webcam. Some devices work just fine out of the hub. haven’t tested a USB drive.
Hello, Thank You For Advice Us. 😊 👍
Great review! Thanks for the video. One question, if you connect some some heafphones via jack to the Caldigit TS4, can it be volume controlled via mac keyboard? Like when you connect directly to the Mac. Thanks for your help
Just tested it. Volume controls on the Mac do control the output volume on the CalDigit.
@@cwaynefox thanks!
great video, thank you
Glad it helped
Any updates on the problem with storage devices getting disconnected on sleep?
Caldigit finally made a firmware updater available for the Mac. There has been an updater for Windows for quite some time, which is puzzling since this device is probably more common used by Mac users. The updating process is odd, without proper feedback and some puzzling text in the dialog boxes, but I managed to get the new firmware on. As far as whether it fixed the problem, too soon to say, but it does seem to be better. I just installed it a couple of weeks ago and set my system to allow hard drives to sleep when possible. Optimistic it resolves the issue. Still no go with my old USB 2.0 hub. Guess I’ll have to get a new one.
@@cwaynefox Interesting. Sounds promising - thank you for the update!
Hi Wayne, with the TS4 and a Mac mini m1 , would I be able to run 3 displays? Thanks. Keep well.
I would be surprised if it worked. I’ve heard of some hacks that get around the 2 display limit, but I think the limit something in the hardware and related to the M1 chip.
You can run 3 displays if you use an iPad though, it works fine for me when plugged via USB-C (has to be a cable capable of sending video data)
Hello, In near future I will buy new macbookpro and I know this will be great product to have. But my question at that moment is next. Can I connect TS4 on old Imac27 that has two Thunderbolt 1 that is limited to 10gbits....I can use minidp cabel to Apple adapter and then to TS4... Will this work for me? On which port on TS4 should I connect the cabel from computer? Thank you
I have this question as well.
It is compatible for iPad Pro 2021 m1? Greetings form mexico, ty
So, the issue you mentioned at the end is still not resolved?
You’re referring to the USB problem?
@@cwaynefox I meant the one about storage devices getting disconnected when the computer goes to sleep (at 15:43).
Oh my, you look like George Carlin :D
Will The TS4 power an Apple Superdrive?
I don’t have one to test, but the USB ports provide standard power so it should work fine.
my interpretation
with power brick = dock
with usb power delivery = hub