Mr Pete , You have many valuable and interesting things but a wife that supports all of them is priceless. Speaking of priceless , thanks again for all your great videos. As a teacher you will never be retired.
Glad to see another lathe find a good home. Jordan appears to be eating his wheaties, and Henry also seems to be interested. Nice to see your grandsons helping. Looking forward to your next video.
Lyle, A friend and I had an early 10 in Atlas/Craftsman lathe follow us home just last week.😆 These things have a habit of doing that. Your comment on the Jones and Laughlin steel plant closing rings true here in Windsor Ontario. Many plants have closed here as well including two GM plants and a large Ford foundry. It is very sad to see our industrial base dissappear in our lifetime. When foundries close it is just a matter of time before the rest of industry follows.
I can't believe how big Jordan has gotten! He's going to be a giant. You're lucky Lyle, I had two daughters, no sons. Maybe I'll get a grandson like Jordan one of these days.
We had a little Craftsman very similar to that when I was a kid. My uncle bought it for completely unknown reasons, because he had absolutely no use for it, and was never seen to use a tool of any sort in his life. He lent it to dad for several years. After getting about 300 mils of rust off of it, it worked quite well, for the size work it could handle. I wish I still had it.
Ah Tubalcain's Home for Wayward lathes it must be the latest one was so cute it even wagged its tail stock at you. Jeepers but Jordan has expanded or grown looking forward to more with the Mini lathes
Thanks you taught me how to be a little more 'supportive' in getting family to help. I am referring, of course, to your comment at 2:00. Good going !! Nice little lathe to boot. Rod
Same as my first restoration. Craftsman 101 = Atlas 618. Same machine, different tags installed for Sears. You can find the vintage of Atlas machines by pressing out the headstock bearing races and looking at Timken's date code. Sears may have a date registry somewhere but I'm not aware of it. This machine is tiny by any standard, and very lightweight. It's biggest design flaw is it uses the halfnuts to drive the carriage even when not threading. However, I wished many times I hadn't sold it before beginning my South Bend 16" restoration--if nothing else you can use a small lathe like this to polish parts for a larger machine. :)
When I told my grandfather I was looking for a lathe this is the sort of thing I had in mind... Instead my grandfather surprised me with a 6 foot long ex factory vintage restoration project, but may I say the best way to learn is to take things apart and put them back together again!
When you get into this lathe, please tell us the vintage, if possible. There is a used machinery shop in my town that has a very similar lathe in their lobby...in pristine condition but appears to be older, simply Atlas, but not Craftsman. The only difference I see is their lathe has the reverse gearbox at the headstock end of the lead screw, like my old Atlas 10d has, with an oil dauber on the tailstock. That one appears new enough to not have the oil dauber hole in the tailstock. There is something quite fascinating about these little old lathes and I understand your attraction. Looking forward to further videos on this lathe. Thanks Mr. Pete.
well it looks like its pretty complete doesn't seem to be anything missing. So it was a good auction item. I have two craftsmen Type 109 one with a short bed and the other a long bed the long one was made in 1937 the other made in 1945. I have been restoring both and they both operate now. Thanks for your instructional videos i love watching them.
After watching this I realized I hadn't checked Craigslist in a few days. I now own lathe number four, a B.C. Ames precision lathe. Mr. Pete, you seem to be my enabler :)
Talk about great timing...I've looked at a couple of these for sale here in Florida but got cold feet because I was not able to assess condition. Want to be sure whatever I end up with will not beyond salvaging. I look forward to your insights. Thanks!
Congrates on your pickup! Probably one of the most versatile lathes at the time and still now. You can find Atlas 618/Crtaftsmans 101's literately everywhere. You call it tiny yet its my biggest of 4........ If you looked on Craig list im sure you could have one for a little cheaper or with more accessories, but certainly not a bad deal.
really looking forward to this series. i don't have the space or the wallet for full sized equipment (everything costs more on the west coast), and would love to equip a shop. thanks Lyle. Lyle
My father always told me "ya don't move a mountain with your back you move it with your brain" That's what my boys are for. And holy mackerel your grandson is growing like weeds on a rainy day. Then some of us old timers still have to make our moves at midnight while she's out like a light, they can see through cement don't cha know....... but I usually get busted. now we now wait for you to fire it up.... sam.
Oh I agree 100% but here in Detroit that used to be that if you drove a foreign car people wouldn't even talk to you or they would key your car in the parking lot or they would not let you park in their driveway. It's getting a little bit better now. I was just surprised because I know Mr. Pete buys only old American iron machinery.
Mr Pete, I commented on a past video about having a Montgomery lathe that needed a home. Well I found one, actually swaped it for a J head Bridgeport mill. need a lot of work and a VFD but for my home shop it will be a great addition to my Lincoln lath.
How to buy a lathe would be a great video. Like what sorts of things to look for in a relatively small "starter" lathe. Things to make sure you have, and things that may not be necessary or as important. Stuff like that. I'd love to see a video like that.
I've got a little 101 with plain bearings...hard to keep the spindle free of play. But the back gears are badly worn too, and the Zamak change gears have disintegrated, as they do in some cases. Wish it didn't have so many issues. It'd be fun to recondition.
That would be a great little lathe for this old woodworker to practice on to determine if I could make the leap from woodworking to machinist. I have watched so many of your videos I think I'd have a bit of a head start. I have never been a fan of Craftsman power tools as generally the low bidder got the deal with Sears for their line. And we know to be low you had to cut corners. But there was a time where some of their tools we better quality. I have my father in laws 1959 era table saw and it is a real nice little rig that sets in my shop as a symbol of the changing times.
I think you would be better off collecting hammers like Tom Lipton. They can be stored in a lot less room. It is a really wonderful thing to have a supportive wife. Your grandson has grown a lot since the first video. Keep on keeping on.
I hope you talk about the economics as well. Many people who must be ashamed of money which comes from the virtue of work (an almost forgotten virtue) fail to share with the audience the cost of machine.
This will be fun Mr. Pete, looking forward to it. As a side note we used to call that "sidewalk supervising". Jordan has become a strapping young man over these years and probably worth the $2k/hour...but does he know where to hit it with the hammer yet? Thanks Much! ~PJ
Hey, looks just like my Atlas 618! The half nut really isn´t the best, the spindle is neither really sturdy nor does it have a sufficient bore through it, but it served me well, that nice little machine. Should find the time to do a rebuild, especially the ways need work. Carriage either fits to loose in the middle or too tight at the end... At least she has the adjustable roller bearings.
Mr Pete, your videos are always so helpful!. One thing I have not found (may have used the wrong search terms), do you have a video explaining anything regarding the milling bits you can use for an atlas 618 lathe? I have one of those that I bought recently (craftsman 618 with milling attachment) but I am not sure yet what type of bits etc to use for milling on it.
I'ld love to have a lathe like that. It would get me started. I think it would do anything i need after somr tlc of course... Someone in the Netherlands trying to get rid of something similar, get in touch please!!!
Is that Craftsman going to be part of Jordan's education? If so, an early lesson might be that these machines handle anything that fits, if you take your time. Tom
I would like your advice. I'm retired and my hobby is tinkering (carpentry, welding, blacksmithing, puzzles, bird houses, etc). I'm adequate at them for my purposes and I've never tried to make money from them. I do a fair amount of good neighbor work for free however. My reason for writing is as follows. I intend to purchase a small lathe and have pretty much settled on a 10 x 22 size (the Grizzly G0602 is in my price range with some nice options included). To change speeds it requires removing and replacing belts. For a few hundred dollars more it can be had with variable speed. In your experience and opinion is the variable speed option a desirable thing to have? Are speed changes all that frequent? I understand slower speeds are desirable for cutting threads. If you have covered this information in a video could you direct me to it (or someone else's video)? Thanks for all the time and effort you put into your videos.
You're very welcome. I love your very informative videos of the last three or four years. I'd like to look at all of them, but so many videos, so little time . . . . . .
How long ago was that series on making lead hammers? Because Jordan [tubalcain Junior] wasnt that big back then. How old is Jordan now and more importantly is he still growing like a weed or what? I dont know how you convinced your lovely bride that you "needed another lathe", but you must be doing something right.
Your wife is as great as mine, my wife do even ask me if "the bigger model over there" wouldn't be better or else I have to get a bigger one before long:-) Please send my regards to your wife:-)
Yes, and I remember when they built it. And the excitement of it all. And how Ford motor company was going to build a stamping plant next to it. And the Bill Road 180 so the trucks Could haul the steel
As a long time loyal subscriber I'm a little disappointed and seeing that you drive a rice burner and then to make the remark about post industrial country is like The pot calling the kettle black. I know the Japanese automakers beat us at her own game but being from Detroit you have to still buy American iron iron.
Fellow Detroiter! You might find this list interesting! kogodbusiness.com/reports/auto-index/ I drive a Toyota Tacoma and get suspicious door dings all of the time. Chances are my Toyota (assembled in the USA) has more domestic content than the Ford they doored me with!
Perhaps if you'd buy an american car, we'd be a little less "post industrial" than we are. What you need is a Dodge Challenger Hellcat. Oh wait, isn't Chrysler owned by Fiat. Never mind. I rekon any profits made by Chrysler go back to Italy. Just as any profits made by Toyota for your american made Camry go back to Japan. I hate using the words profits and Chrysler in the same sentence because Chrysler hasn't been a viable company since Carter stopped selling "little pills" and became president.
Mr Pete , You have many valuable and interesting things but a wife that supports all of them is priceless. Speaking of priceless , thanks again for all your great videos. As a teacher you will never be retired.
"This is how an old man unloads a lathe" ... lol, love it, should be the video title.
Glad to see another lathe find a good home. Jordan appears to be eating his wheaties, and Henry also seems to be interested. Nice to see your grandsons helping. Looking forward to your next video.
"Honestly honey, I only took the trailer out for test run to make sure the bearings were still good, and this lathe just jumped on to it". Ha ha.
I wish there were auction houses that sold machinery like this near me!
Thanks for all of your great videos!
Brad
Wow I can't believe how much your grandson has grown since your earlier videos. He's a big boy! Congrats on the new lathe.
Lyle, A friend and I had an early 10 in Atlas/Craftsman lathe follow us home just last week.😆 These things have a habit of doing that. Your comment on the Jones and Laughlin steel plant closing rings true here in Windsor Ontario. Many plants have closed here as well including two GM plants and a large Ford foundry. It is very sad to see our industrial base dissappear in our lifetime. When foundries close it is just a matter of time before the rest of industry follows.
I can't believe how big Jordan has gotten! He's going to be a giant. You're lucky Lyle, I had two daughters, no sons. Maybe I'll get a grandson like Jordan one of these days.
I like the Atlas-Craftsman lathes, tons of parts and accessories available, easy to maintain. I'm looking forward to the videos.
I love how proud those homemade cranes make us feel. Great shorty mr. Pete
We had a little Craftsman very similar to that when I was a kid. My uncle bought it for completely unknown reasons, because he had absolutely no use for it, and was never seen to use a tool of any sort in his life. He lent it to dad for several years. After getting about 300 mils of rust off of it, it worked quite well, for the size work it could handle. I wish I still had it.
Ah Tubalcain's Home for Wayward lathes it must be the latest one was so cute it even wagged its tail stock at you.
Jeepers but Jordan has expanded or grown looking forward to more with the Mini lathes
Thanks you taught me how to be a little more 'supportive' in getting family to help.
I am referring, of course, to your comment at 2:00. Good going !!
Nice little lathe to boot. Rod
Wow your grandson has really grown up. Looks like he survived after all the smoke and fumes from riding behind that Gravely tractor. Ha!
Jordan has definetely grown. Good health and thanks for all your efforts. Regards
Thanks for doing this series. Looking forward to it. I am a novice so all the professional advice I can get would be great. Thank you.
Same as my first restoration. Craftsman 101 = Atlas 618. Same machine, different tags installed for Sears. You can find the vintage of Atlas machines by pressing out the headstock bearing races and looking at Timken's date code. Sears may have a date registry somewhere but I'm not aware of it.
This machine is tiny by any standard, and very lightweight. It's biggest design flaw is it uses the halfnuts to drive the carriage even when not threading. However, I wished many times I hadn't sold it before beginning my South Bend 16" restoration--if nothing else you can use a small lathe like this to polish parts for a larger machine. :)
The 101 is huge in comparison to the 109.
When I told my grandfather I was looking for a lathe this is the sort of thing I had in mind... Instead my grandfather surprised me with a 6 foot long ex factory vintage restoration project, but may I say the best way to learn is to take things apart and put them back together again!
When you get into this lathe, please tell us the vintage, if possible. There is a used machinery shop in my town that has a very similar lathe in their lobby...in pristine condition but appears to be older, simply Atlas, but not Craftsman. The only difference I see is their lathe has the reverse gearbox at the headstock end of the lead screw, like my old Atlas 10d has, with an oil dauber on the tailstock. That one appears new enough to not have the oil dauber hole in the tailstock. There is something quite fascinating about these little old lathes and I understand your attraction. Looking forward to further videos on this lathe. Thanks Mr. Pete.
well it looks like its pretty complete doesn't seem to be anything missing. So it was a good auction item. I have two craftsmen Type 109 one with a short bed and the other a long bed the long one was made in 1937 the other made in 1945. I have been restoring both and they both operate now. Thanks for your instructional videos i love watching them.
Very nice find, wish I had the ability to look for them. Thumbs up .
Mr.Pete, Dang, What are they feeding your grandson? That young man seems to be growing! No really, nice lathe and nice of your kin to give you a hand.
How any fellow could resist is quite beyond me Mr Pete Sir
Jordan has really grown up and I am sure you are proud
After watching this I realized I hadn't checked Craigslist in a few days. I now own lathe number four, a B.C. Ames precision lathe. Mr. Pete, you seem to be my enabler :)
congratulation
Can't wait to see you make a few videos on the little Craftsman 6" lathe.
I would love to see how to buy a lathe . You do a wonderful job on your videos . I look forward to them . thanks again .
I have one like this that I need to finish. Llooking forward to the next videos on this little lathe
Hey, that's just like one I picked up a few ago. They are great for working with little tiny pieces.
Talk about great timing...I've looked at a couple of these for sale here in Florida but got cold feet because I was not able to assess condition. Want to be sure whatever I end up with will not beyond salvaging. I look forward to your insights. Thanks!
I can't how big and handsome Jordan has turned out!
Congrates on your pickup! Probably one of the most versatile lathes at the time and still now. You can find Atlas 618/Crtaftsmans 101's literately everywhere. You call it tiny yet its my biggest of 4........ If you looked on Craig list im sure you could have one for a little cheaper or with more accessories, but certainly not a bad deal.
thanks Mr Pete, that is the lathe i have, i look forward to seeing what can be done on it and what should not be done on it. keep up the good work.
really looking forward to this series. i don't have the space or the wallet for full sized equipment (everything costs more on the west coast), and would love to equip a shop. thanks Lyle.
Lyle
My father always told me "ya don't move a mountain with your back you move it with
your brain" That's what my boys are for. And holy mackerel your grandson is
growing like weeds on a rainy day. Then some of us old timers still have to make
our moves at midnight while she's out like a light, they can see through cement
don't cha know....... but I usually get busted. now we now wait for you to fire it up....
sam.
Oh I agree 100% but here in Detroit that used to be that if you drove a foreign car people wouldn't even talk to you or they would key your car in the parking lot or they would not let you park in their driveway. It's getting a little bit better now. I was just surprised because I know Mr. Pete buys only old American iron machinery.
You've got a great wife. She's a keeper. Has she been in a video? You needed video of her writing the check! lol
Mr Pete, I commented on a past video about having a Montgomery lathe that needed a home. Well I found one, actually swaped it for a J head Bridgeport mill. need a lot of work and a VFD but for my home shop it will be a great addition to my Lincoln lath.
Sounds like a great trade
I hope so. I work with an ACER at my full time job so most is the same. Someone beat the heck out of this one. But for home DIY it should work fine.
Nice little Lathe.
How to buy a lathe would be a great video. Like what sorts of things to look for in a relatively small "starter" lathe. Things to make sure you have, and things that may not be necessary or as important. Stuff like that. I'd love to see a video like that.
Also how to price a small lathe, or any machine for that matter, so that you pay a reasonable amount.
I just bought a used Atlas 618 last week. I'm looking forward to finding out how good a deal I got with this. Thanks for the videos.
Nice find. Looks to have been working some wood.....
I've got a little 101 with plain bearings...hard to keep the spindle free of play. But the back gears are badly worn too, and the Zamak change gears have disintegrated, as they do in some cases. Wish it didn't have so many issues. It'd be fun to recondition.
Another addition to the "Peterson Industrial Amalgimated".
That would be a great little lathe for this old woodworker to practice on to determine if I could make the leap from woodworking to machinist. I have watched so many of your videos I think I'd have a bit of a head start. I have never been a fan of Craftsman power tools as generally the low bidder got the deal with Sears for their line. And we know to be low you had to cut corners. But there was a time where some of their tools we better quality. I have my father in laws 1959 era table saw and it is a real nice little rig that sets in my shop as a symbol of the changing times.
👍👍
$800 i would tell them to put it back on...lol... Thanks for sharing sir....
He asked "what do I owe you"? Jordan answered, "$800", I think he should pay him!
I think you would be better off collecting hammers like Tom Lipton. They can be stored in a lot less room. It is a really wonderful thing to have a supportive wife. Your grandson has grown a lot since the first video. Keep on keeping on.
I've been trying to snap up a nice one of these for 18 months. I have 8 to 10 (not sure at the moment) Craftsman / Atlas lathes. But, no 6" yet.
I hope you talk about the economics as well. Many people who must be ashamed of money which comes from the virtue of work (an almost forgotten virtue) fail to share with the audience the cost of machine.
If you would stop leaving trails of chips on the highway, the darned things would stop following you home!
Interesting optical effect in the outdoor video; the middle is in focus, but the periphery seems blurry.
...Keith Rucker has acquired your ailment of attracting lathes and mills...
Isn't that cute, I get tears of joy in my eyes
😀
This will be fun Mr. Pete, looking forward to it. As a side note we used to call that "sidewalk supervising". Jordan has become a strapping young man over these years and probably worth the $2k/hour...but does he know where to hit it with the hammer yet? Thanks Much! ~PJ
just can't wait for another belt guard video
Ah-hah! The newest "last lathe" has arrived!! ;)
1:57 Little Henry is reaching for the carriage already!
had one couldnt find gears ..sold it...murphys law free gears at swapmeet...thanks for video
Hey, looks just like my Atlas 618!
The half nut really isn´t the best, the spindle is neither really sturdy nor does it have a sufficient bore through it, but it served me well, that nice little machine.
Should find the time to do a rebuild, especially the ways need work. Carriage either fits to loose in the middle or too tight at the end...
At least she has the adjustable roller bearings.
Mr Pete, your videos are always so helpful!. One thing I have not found (may have used the wrong search terms), do you have a video explaining anything regarding the milling bits you can use for an atlas 618 lathe? I have one of those that I bought recently (craftsman 618 with milling attachment) but I am not sure yet what type of bits etc to use for milling on it.
Sorry, do not
WOW Jordan grew up didn't he! Henry is growing like weed. You should be proud and I'm sure you are.
I'ld love to have a lathe like that. It would get me started. I think it would do anything i need after somr tlc of course... Someone in the Netherlands trying to get rid of something similar, get in touch please!!!
Well that be fun to restore.
Is that Craftsman going to be part of Jordan's education?
If so, an early lesson might be that these machines handle anything that fits, if you take your time.
Tom
We all have our addictions!
THANK YOU...for sharing.
Hi Mr.Pete, thought Id share Im 32 years old in Chicago and work at Shure Inc in the Tool Room.
Awesome--is that the Shure that made the awesome iconic mikes used by Elvis etc??
mrpete222 Yes Sir
I would like your advice. I'm retired and my hobby is tinkering (carpentry, welding, blacksmithing, puzzles, bird houses, etc). I'm adequate at them for my purposes and I've never tried to make money from them. I do a fair amount of good neighbor work for free however. My reason for writing is as follows. I intend to purchase a small lathe and have pretty much settled on a 10 x 22 size (the Grizzly G0602 is in my price range with some nice options included). To change speeds it requires removing and replacing belts. For a few hundred dollars more it can be had with variable speed. In your experience and opinion is the variable speed option a desirable thing to have? Are speed changes all that frequent? I understand slower speeds are desirable for cutting threads. If you have covered this information in a video could you direct me to it (or someone else's video)? Thanks for all the time and effort you put into your videos.
Thanks for watching.
A speed change is VERY desirable. Changing speeds with a step pulley take too much time & effort.
wow! a small lathe and it's not chinese? amazing!!
I would like to have one just like that
Its cute, actually that is about the size I need. 99% of what I use my lathe for is
My heavens! What have you been feeding Jordan?!? He used to be a little bitty guy!!
Hello can you give me any information on a lathe Its a Logan Model 200 it works fine Is it a good one or junk I can buy it for $150 delivered ??
+J K Buy it
mrpete222 Thanks
how many lathes are you up to now?
I'm going to speak Australian here Lyle: I liked the fact you got the young blokes to do the bullocking. No sense in having dogs and barking yourself!
Thats funny. So different from the way we express ourselves. THANKS
You're very welcome. I love your very informative videos of the last three or four years. I'd like to look at all of them, but so many videos, so little time . . . . . .
"No sense in having dogs and barking yourself" - HA HA HA HA HA.
How long ago was that series on making lead hammers? Because Jordan [tubalcain Junior] wasnt that big back then.
How old is Jordan now and more importantly is he still growing like a weed or what?
I dont know how you convinced your lovely bride that you "needed another lathe", but you must be doing something right.
Have you ever heard of a Sebastian Lathe? Please let me know.
Hi Have you seen this :- www.lathes.co.uk/sebastian/ regards.
How do I contact you I need some parts for my craftsman/atlas lathe and some direction to getting it going if you would please
Your wife is as great as mine, my wife do even ask me if "the bigger model over there" wouldn't be better or else I have to get a bigger one before long:-)
Please send my regards to your wife:-)
I don't know where you get all your energy from! What's the secret?
Buy lathes.
I'ts just nice.
u got more lathers than kotter's got oats
off topic, but is the truck ok? i saw a little foreign car and thought i was on the wrong channel.
No, the truck is dead. Lyle had a video of it's demise at the local scrap yard. Really, he needed more rooms for the lathes!!
I scrapped the truck. It is now available at DOLLAR TREE in the form of of worthless trinkets.
The old J&L steel mill is all gone now.
Yes, and I remember when they built it. And the excitement of it all. And how Ford motor company was going to build a stamping plant next to it. And the Bill Road 180 so the trucks Could haul the steel
Nice score, all the junk ya find around this neck-a-the woods wouldn't make a good boat anchor.
It looks like it is becoming a bit of an addiction lol
you will be able to start up a business buying and selling laths well buying them any way lol
If you ever have a garage sale please call me!!
that's tiny? you should see my 7x10 Chinese lathe, you could of put in the front seat and left the trailer home.
As a long time loyal subscriber I'm a little disappointed and seeing that you drive a rice burner and then to make the remark about post industrial country is like The pot calling the kettle black. I know the Japanese automakers beat us at her own game but being from Detroit you have to still buy American iron iron.
the camry has a 65% USA contents same as a ford. also not even one small repair in 150,00 miles
+mrpete222 ++ way to know your vehicle.
Fellow Detroiter! You might find this list interesting! kogodbusiness.com/reports/auto-index/
I drive a Toyota Tacoma and get suspicious door dings all of the time. Chances are my Toyota (assembled in the USA) has more domestic content than the Ford they doored me with!
I think you're a little low at 65%, Cars.com has the Camey listed as the "most American made" car at 80% domestic parts and assembly.
Perhaps if you'd buy an american car, we'd be a little less "post industrial" than we are. What you need is a Dodge Challenger Hellcat. Oh wait, isn't Chrysler owned by Fiat. Never mind. I rekon any profits made by Chrysler go back to Italy. Just as any profits made by Toyota for your american made Camry go back to Japan. I hate using the words profits and Chrysler in the same sentence because Chrysler hasn't been a viable company since Carter stopped selling "little pills" and became president.