The slow walking is because Borg are basically Zombies (classic Romero ones), the shamble towards you and if they "bite" you then you turn into a zombie. Half of all Borg flaws stem from this central thematic choice.
They go into battle with no sense that their bodies are actually their existence. Not like participating in some great democracy while recognizing that you are still you and if there isn't a "you" anymore you are gone. They don't see their own bodies as any more of an extension to themselves than any other drone they receive sensory input from and participate in making decisions for. So they are collectively playing themselves like proxies in a computer game on easy mode where if you "die" you can just spawn another "you" and continue.
I'm glad to see others talking about this Most of the 'flaws' assume they have an individual survival need like humans do. When I go to fix my car, do I consider it a flaw when I lose skin cells scraping my knuckles?
There is a theory that the Borg have realized starfleets tremendous potential for innovation and are basically Farming them, basically letting them survive so they can develop new tech the borg can adapt
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547, that makes sense since the Borg don't actually create anything. This creates a paradox to their stated aim of perfection since a primitive race could, if left alone to develop, greatly enhance the Collective later and there's no way to know beforehand.
Guys, sorry I said T 300 instead of T 800, my bad. Also, don't forget to click in the top right corner of the video to rank the Borg on a scale of 1-5! Happy Xeno hunting!
it's doesn't matter The terminators are not actual cyborgs as they function just fine with out their human skin a true cyborg requires both organic and inorganic components to life.
@ValorJ Omega well, statistically, even in TOS it wasn't even Red Shirts, it was Blue Shirts, by the numbers...Red Shirts are just easier to remember...
#11. They always forget everything they learned to adapt to. Every encounter with the borg that occurs. The borg always adapt to every phaser modulation fired at them.
Yeah, they show why and how the borg have been unstoppable, but constantly hit the reset button. Otherwise it'd be a quick checkmate the moment one Federation ship falls to the borg.
The thing is, the borg always have that info to store, but their organic based minds can only access so much info at a time, so after an encounter, they dump that information to the hard drive. When they are attacked again, they request that info after a couple of shots and are immune again. Plus it would make defeating the federation too easy for the plotlines. Also disabled drones are of no consequence to the borg if it means it gives them the power to destroy their opponents. Sometimes the nanoprobes will repair the phaser damage essentially bringing the drone back to life just like seven does to neelix in voyager. Or the working parts are salvaged and returned to the collective.... Efficiency
You missed one. Going off First Contact, the Borg are completely vulnerable to relatively primitive and (and I say this as someone who's fired a Thompson) fairly crude projectile weapons. Lose the phasers, issue M4A1s and the Borg lose any face to face confrontation.
@@HO-os8ry where are you getting this idea that their shields only block one thing at a time? once they've adapted they've adapted, they don't drop support for a previous weapon when they develop support for a new weapon.
The fact that the Borg are in anyway biological is a flaw. The shape of the ship is because in space the shape is less of an issue. It could also be to show that aesthetics are of little to no concern.
Pluse cubes and spheres are the two best designs to protect criticle systems. They can put as much as possible in the centre and its all well defended from any angle.
The Borg must've have started on species 0001. Undoubly those were biological, and must've assimilated themselves. Tech freaks who implant stuff onto their body and brains. The first Species we get info is the Borg Queens Species 125.. Those seem to stabilize the collective. I am no more expert than that.
What would happen if the Borg encountered a similar Collective/AI with the same goal? Who would assimilate who, and would the Borg agree to be assimilated by a superior collective?
There was a Cross over comic with the Eleventh Doctor and the TNG crew where the Cybermen and Borg had teamed up together. I think it was called Assimilation 2.
the Borg were best when they were an enigmatic force, unknowable etc the more they put em in episodes and the more they/we learned the less scary they became, I would say after Wolf 359 why fear the Borg??? their appearance in Voyager made em out to be the mustache twirling villains of the week type enemy....sure they were more interesting than the Kazon but gods just had to overdo it..... [taps shoulder] oh right, First "goddamn" Contact ugh naww man I totally passed on that one lolz it's like Boba Fett in Star Wars, everyone wants his story yet if we get the whole story then he ceases to be cool and becomes man in cool armor number 1001 you explain your heroes and the primary villains that's it, never every single enemy..... now what we do want is strong antagonists who feel some slight on their character who then go after the heroes for many episodes like Tomolak of Romulus was superb at this, the Duras Sisters were also superb, Voyager enemies could have been cool but they just made the worst characters, Kazon, Malon? basically raiders and slavers? the Vaudwar would have been an awesome antagonist, if they had been at the height of their power, a little crazy and highly territorial? that woulda been perfect for an enemy who'd chase voyager at least half the show's run lol imagine no Borg but the Vaudwar as the main antagonist with the Kazon and Malon as their vassels?? that'd make the whole setup better, I think I just fixed Voyager lolz to be clear I loved the Borg as scary monsters but grew to resent their popularity and overuse cus they got turned into easily defeated foolish foes....
In the beginning the borg seemed like the absolute democracy, completely decentralized. Granted, all drones think in the same pattern but it is still a democracy, in some twisted way. The idea of a borg queen completely undermines the nature of the borg network. Without the queen and a centralized network they would be a threat to all in the Star Trek Universe.
The queen (and Locutus before her) dealt with the primary writing problem of the Borg - you can't get a good actor or actress to play the borg villain if they don't have a leader. They were not intended to be recurring villains as designed.
Very interesting video, definitely draws up some excellent points. However, I feel that you have made an error in that you are looking at the symptoms more than the actual flaws. The issues you have listed are part of the nature of the nature of the borg itself/themselves. One must remember that when it comes down to it, the borg are NOT species or race. The borg collective is a computer program, and more accurately a virus. All of the drones are simply infected hardware. The borg does not seek to conquer as much as it seeks to assimilate, to grow by absorbing more individuals. This is the reason behind many of its poor battle tactics. Also, the Borg cannot evolve on its own. It does little to nothing in the way of research, primarily adapting technology stolen from other races to suit itself. The reason why the photon torpedo trick worked is because no one had disrupted a ship 's shields then transported a bomb on board. No one had done it before so they had no defense against it. As far as the vision goes, I would point out that we see through the eyes of the assimilated Voyager crew members who are resisting assimilation, not through the eyes of fully assimilated borg who might actually have a far more effective vision, somewhat more akin to Geordi's visor.
I love this and completely agree. The flaws he states in the video aren't necessarily flaws, but symptoms like you said. Like the one about being susceptible to viruses b/c they have organic parts. Well...that's literally every single biological life form. Even Species 8472. Using it as a flaw is just naming a way the universe works. So, pointless. One flaw should have been how Picard can use simple 9mm bullets to completely annihilate drones when all their high tech stuff does nothing. Would be a pretty serious flaw when you have a big weakness to low tech. Especially when the Borg Queen has talked about 7 of 9 losing her body armor. They're not really armored if small soft metal projectiles are able to pierce your high tech suits like tissue paper. This all just seems to have not really had any input from fans that have been talking about and discussing these things for decades. There's plenty of other flaws that are much more legit if you were to bring it up to a group of fans that love and live this stuff. Good post, though.
But given their adaptability and high level of technology in other respects, their apparently zero interest in viral protection is a flaw. They don't appear to have any kind of upgraded immune systems that good sense would have suggested that they'd have.
The Borg went downhill once the Borg Queen was introduced for First Contact. Instead they should've made Dr Pulaski the new _Locutas of Borg._ *[WARNING, ESSAY]* {I've posted this elsewhere, but it seems relevant here} The problem was that the filmmakers wanted a *singular protagonist* for the heroes (Picard and Data) to act opposite and for dramatic interaction and dialogue, but the nature of the Borg and what makes them so terrifying is that they are a faceless foe, a force of nature that cannot be argued or engaged with - _"Listen. Understand. That Terminator is out there. It can't be reasoned with, it can't be bargained with. It doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear and it absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead"._ Giving them a Queen would be like making a Zombie King that ruled all the Walkers on *The Walking Dead.* It completely changes the concept of the Walkers and makes them a conventional bad guy, which destroys their essence. Track down and argue, reason, monologue, trick and kill the Zombie King and all the Walkers die, it would _jump the shark_ faster than a zombie sharknado. And at the very basic level the Borg are a horde of Cyberzombies, and should be treated as such for dramatic purposes. That is the problem with making a film for general audiences and not just the fans (and unfortunately if you don't like it, then don't expect big budget films to be made), it tends to accommodate the casual viewer and studios are generally very risk adverse so they went for a traditional narrative and a generic bad guy [The Matrix was originally going to be humans used as computer capacity, our brains are amazing computers. The scene where a battery is held up was going to be some RAM sticks, but the producers didn't think a casual audience could grasp that, so…]. But what could they have done differently to make both groups happy and not dilute the purity of the Borg menace? Remember I mentioned Dr Pulaski, that is where the emotional shock and the interaction with an individual comes in. In The Best of Both Worlds we see Picard get assimilated and turned into *Locutus of Borg,* still a individual, who not only engaged the crew in dramatic dialogue, but did so from the perspective of one of their own turned against them - The bad guy who was a former friend. To continue the Borg are cybernetic undead theme it's like when one of the good guys gets turned into a vampire and now uses their intimacy to hurt the heroes emotionally a well as strategically… _"Your resistence is hopeless...Number One."_ [It can be seen to great effect in season two of Buffy with Angelus, her true love Angel is now her worst enemy through no fault of his own after losing his soul]. Having the Borg once again chose an *'Emissary'* keeps the concept of the Borg pure but allows for one on one dramatic interaction, but why Dr Pulaski? Well having a newly introduced character assimilated lacks dramatic and emotional impact, and it gets into the redshirt trope, which has now become the revolving helmsman, I knew Lt Hawk was Borg fodder as soon as I saw him and it wasn't a shock (I was surprised the helmsman survived in Insurrection). So it's best for a series regular to become the new voice of the Borg, but who? Working through the list I realised instead of killing off a regular cast member why not reintroduce someone who was in the series, that fans knew and that casual viewers would go 'yeh, sorta remember' and most importantly would have a backstory with the characters and a casual familiarity that lets viewers know they're one of the gang (and not telegraph that they're going to cop it). At that describes Dr Pulaski, the only other candidates were either committed to DS9 or off discovering new Dimensions _"shut up Wesley"_ (and too contrived to reintroduce him, and if the Borg assimilated his power it's game over). Dr Pulaski was there for 20 episodes, the only other candidates were Guinan (Whoopi's hair under a bald patch?) but she's got another thousand years at least and they may have thought she could be required for further movies, she can keep turning up in different time periods including the far future. Or Lwaxana Troi, and her problem is she's a comedic character, and a telepath which just makes her overpowered versus Picard (only Data could outwit her). Also neither of these characters are human and the Borg would chose a _human_ to coordinate assimilating Earth. So near the start of First Contact Dr Pulaski is visiting the new Enterprise and her old friends and that seems perfectly normal to the audience, she's just caught up in the battle, there's some fun doctor versus doctor banter between her and Dr Crusher about what's happened since she left regarding relationships and most importantly Dr Pulaski will discuss Data with Dr Crusher. She was always obsessed with the idea of Data's sapience in TNG and had a complicated relationship with him, at times antagonistic but also respectful. This would explain the Borgs new obsession with Data, Locutus considered Data irrelevant. _"The android, Data, primitive artificial organism. You will be obsolete in the new world order."_ With Pulaski at the helm, the Borg would change their assessment of Data. He had a daughter who died, he killed his twin brother and he has emotions, all of which happened after Pulaski left, she would be fascinated by this and it could show in some pre assimilation dialogue where she catches up with him and apologises for her previous attitude and mentions how he's grown as a person or individual. ("That's the nicest thing anyone had ever said to me Doctor"). And that allows for some deeply emotional conversations between Borg Pulaski and Data, about his family and development instead of the *cringeworthy seduction attempt* of the Borg Queen. The scene where it's revealed that she's the new Borg Emissary has the potential for great drama as well, as they learn that their colleague is now the mastermind against them. And maybe she points out that the Borg are no longer vulnerable to being hacked like they did with Locutus ("We have adapted"). The actress who played Dr Pulaski had a thin face that would look suitably sinister as a Borg, and also her eventual death wouldn't effect series continuity (like bumping off one of the core seven and telling that actor "no more big movies for you, sorry about your career and mortgage"). Her removal from the collective would be just too contrived, being assimilated becomes too casual, give it some resonance, they won, but lost a friend. Also what about the moral implications of the Starfleet Borg they killed if they could've been rescued as well? The only issue is they would have to come up with some other way to wipe out all the Borg that just 'they die without the Queen'. But the Borg are not *sullied with individuality,* and it can even become part of their _modus operandi_ - they assimilate an Emissary to lead them in conquering a species, and if it doesn't work, they use a different individual to very their methodology. But it gives them insight into their victims psychology and tactics, and the most appropriate way to assimilate them, and is yet another strength of the Borg. Also with Picard having insights into the Borg, it shows that the best weapon against the Borg is former Drones that have inside knowledge and can still 'feel' what the Borg is up to. He didn't target a particular weak spot that Cubes have (they have no weak spots, that's the basic idea of their design) he was able to intercept information from the Borg about where their systems were damaged, it's not like "maybe we should write that spot down". Seven of Nine could be played the same way, she understands where they are vulnerable, instead of just having Janeway outwit the Queen at every encounter while the Queen sputters _"JANEWAY (curses, foiled again!)"_ Now onto Voyager… [*looks at length of this essay as a RUclips comment and thinks "Frack this, smeghead - May the tl:dr be with you"]. Although briefly (hah!) regarding Voyager, again instead of the Borg Queen they could have had a series regular assimilated as the new Borg Emissary, gives it the interaction without the mediocrity. And for that they could have gone with ensign Kim, (instead of having a death match with his agent using a hottest Asian actor listing in a magazine as a TKO to get rid of Kes) as they had planned to get rid of him in Scorpion. Or promote another actor from background (like Seska was) planning full well to eventually Borgify them. I personally would have had Harry have a relationship near the start with Seven (her being the aggressor, much to the amusement of Paris and concern of Torres), and then in the episode where the Queen 'returns', (when the steal a transwarp coil, although she's not canon now) instead Harry gets assimilated and becomes _Kimatas of Borg._ That gives the crew a major shock, and sets back Seven's emotional development as blame goes round. It also keeps Kes in the cast, no doubt with some saphic undertones to her friendship and concern for Seven. Perhaps Kes can be given the same age slowing treatment the Oncampa travelers had, or she ages and eventually dies near the end of the series. And it could explain why Janeway can beat the Borg, she (and Paris) knows Harry so well and can predict Kimatas's plans and tactics, using the Borg's strength of adopting an Emissary against them. And maybe they later on save Harry/Kimatas (now with PTSD and issues) or Kimatas in Borgspace is a legacy of their voyages. It lessens the *neutering* that the Borg got in Voyager…although having Voyager assimilated in the final episode would have been a great wrap up - see *_BLAKES 7_* Especially if it's revealed that the Borg were stringing Voyager along as plan to get the Doctors 29th century mobile emitter, and the crew destroy it just in time… a pyrrhic victory.
I would have to say that the 3 biggest Borg flaws would be... 1 their reliance on assimilation to reproduce: They possess the genetic templates of many species. They could have easily genetically engineered and cloned genetically superior hosts that were purpose built to interface with Borg technology. The fact that they were grown rather than assimilated would also prevent rebellion as these Superdrones were NEVER individuals. 2 their method of assimilation: Borg drones assimilated victims one at a time. They could have simply disbursed billions of nano probes into a ship's atmosphere processors thus beginning the assimilation process before a ship's crew even knew what was happening. 3 their inability to proactively register threats: Every time their ships are boarded by Starfleet personnel, they cause trouble. The similar uniforms and clear presence of weapons should automatically register them as a potential threat. It's also kind of strange that they can't seem to develop dampening field technology to prevent their weapons from being used in the first place.
borg don't just assimilate they also produce new drones on their own, based on the most suitable genetic traits gathered from other assimilated specimen, not all drones have been individuals,, they also don't assimilate people to increase their numbers (just making new drones themselves is faster), they assimilate in order to gain knowledge and genetic diversity, if they encounter a species that is unlikely to provide either, they'll just destroy it.
Borg - Resistance is Futile Tony Stark - I am Iron Man * SNAP.... *SNAP? Jim Rhodes - TONY YOU'RE WEARING THE MK 64, NOT YOUR INFINITY IRON SUIT! Tony Stark - Who could have guessed it would be Zombies to do me in, I should have made that Anti-Zombie Iron Suit! *Recoils in terror *EXPLOSION REVEALS CAPTAIN MARVEL Carol Danver - Hello BOYS, I am here to tell you about the good word of Truth, Justice, Equity, and Feminism Borg - GET BACK ON THE F^&KING SHIP! * The Borg leave earth faster than time speed.
One major flaw that is overlooked is that their Signal can be easily jammed by subspace jammers, their Collective signal is in the lower wavelengths. Countless times when a subspace blocker is used it has caused the Borg in mass to die, explode which results in death or great injury, or they are knocked out. Ether way, it takes medial care to help people separated from the collective, they wont recover on their own unless they are lucky and one of their collective members has basic medical care skills. Also lost of Gas Clouds and or highly charged space phenomena is dangerous to the borg, its why I think they avoid going into phenomena like that and or have died from doing so like in the Voygager series when they find a dead ship full of dead borg in space. Its because of this weakness the Galactic Empire, the Rebel Alliance, and any faction in any universe that uses ECM or powerful disruptive weapons like SW Ion weapons, that they actually would very easily kill the borg, if not accidentally kill the borg. If a fleet of Cubes flew into a dead zone where the Death Stars Tactical Jammers had created, all the ships will be stopped dead in their tracts. The Jammers dont just completely stop every single subspace signal, its stops all light, life, energy, holonet, radio, radar, radiation, gravity, and the more advanced sensors used in Star Wars ships.
@@Acrosurge They did so in both episodes when they were taking Picard and 7 or 9 away from the Borg. We usually see them avoid nebulas, and we saw them lose their signals in the episodes when a scouting group was forced to make a mini collective that never went back to the collective.
@@lancer737 " They did so in both episodes when they were taking Picard and 7 or 9 away from the Borg." If you are referencing Best of Both Worlds, then no. The Enterprise crew did not jam the Collective's signal to the Borg Cube. They could have blocked Picard/Locutus's personal link to the Collective, but decided against it because it would cause Locutus to immediately self destruct. As for 7 of 9, again, they could not jam the signal to the Borg Collective. Commander Chakotay used his previous Borg implants to establish a link with 7 and then Lieutenant Torres uses that link to send a power surge through 7's Borg transceiver. No jamming. A direct link was necessary to disrupt one drone. "We usually see them avoid nebulas" Do we? The Borg built their transwarp hubs, which allow they to deploy anywhere in the galaxy in minutes, in the middle of nebulae. In what instance do we see them avoiding nebulae because it will disrupt their link to the Collective? "we saw them lose their signals in the episodes when a scouting group was forced to make a mini collective that never went back to the collective" I assume you are referencing the Voyager episode Unity. Here, a single Borg Cube was badly damaged by an electrokinetic storm and its neuro-electric field generator destroyed. This is what severed the Cube's link to the Collective. Again, no jamming. The fact is, the Collective's signal, assuming devices to propagated it, is demonstrably robust, even in the face of such things as nebulae, powerful ion storms, and even temporal distortions. I do not think canon Imperial jamming will fare any better, considering the limits of canon Imperial sensors.
@@Acrosurge You didnt reply, I guess my message is blocked because it has links. I am re-posting my original response without any links. The episode with Picard does have his signal jammed, 7 of 9 was different apparently in that story how she lost her connection, but we still see what happens to Borg that do lose their connection to the Collective and its devastating, including the 8th movie. We see the Borg avoid lots of Nebulas, especially in the episode in which they are trying to abduct Picard. Instead of flat out chasing the Enterprise D. They resort to trying to depth charge the D to get it out. The place with the Trans warp network is obviously not dense enough to hamper their signals. The episode with with making a mini collective was an example used for what happens when they do lose their connection and through means not involving jamming, an Ion weapon like the Super Heavy Ion Cannons on Star Destroyers or Ion Torpedoes should have a similar effect if not much faster than what those storms did to the Borg ships. SW jamming, especially from Imperial ships, especially a Death Star would easily jam the Collective since lesser has blocked the Borgs. Theirs nothing showing that Star Wars sensors are weak, especially since just one type of sensor out of lots that Star Destroyers use have a 100 Light Year FTL range. Them flying right at a Proto Star within a huge nebula of proto stars appear to have next to no effect on the Star Fighter in SW Rebels, let alone a Capital ship.
The Borg are great but did they ever develop resistance to projectile weapons like.........BULLETS?!?! Give me the minigun from Predator and no Borg is safe.
In Voyager, when 7 was being rescued. You hear the doctor say to Janway, every borg has their own communication link. The ability to talk to 7 without the collective knowing.
Transporting weapons aboard enemy vessels in combat is such an obvious tactic that it's amazing we only ever see it used once by Voyager against the borg probe that they apparently wanted to disable rather than destroy. It's just one of the OP uses of the transporter that writers have to ignore in order to stop having the transporter be the solution to all problems.
Like the big guy from Resident Evil 2. He was freaking scary. Slow, but practically unstoppable - and he would suddenly do unexpected things, like break through a wall when you thought you were safe.
@@TheCJUN The original presentation of them was scary. The way the drones made no effort to protect themselves as they went about their duties. Brilliant. Each individual mind in the collective resides in a drone but has no particular identity with its own body as it receives sensory input from all drones. So a drone goes into battle with no more regard for its own body's survival than we have for our proxy in a computer game. But consider also how the Ferengi were presented. They start out as powerful technologically advanced rivals and then just end up comic relief.
One of the interesting problems of the BORG (looking at this episodically as opposed to a canonical time line view) is that as initially presented, the BORG was more of a force of nature than a villain. While this is mutated over time, especially with the introduction of the BORG queen, the initial model of the BORG is more like an ant colony than anything else; intelligent but non-sentient. (Fast forward ten years in earth’s history from the original plot lines of Next Generation and scientific studies confirmed that sensory overload - in the case of the studies of drug effects - can result in a loss of self-identity.) A lot of the flaws of the BORG are based off the ant model; they evolve to solve the problem and if they don’t then the next group will or the one after that and so on and so forth. Most of the real flaws of the BORG was the result of trying to make the BORG a “villain” and not a force of nature, including fascination and species assimilation (the original BORG was technological assimilation, the concept of species assimilation given the divergence of non-carbon based lifeforms in the Star Trek universe has plot holes so large you can pilot a Dyson sphere through them). Both elements were necessary in order to make the BORG a villain which in turn made them easy to defeat.
Flaw 0: They're nothing but an *inferior* rip-off of the Cybermen from _Doctor Who_ But, hey, _Star Trek_ features time travel almost as much as _DW_ so they might as well steal ideas from it... The only reason they haven't ripped off the Daleks is that Terry Nation's estate would boil those responsible in oil.
3:00 If you haven’t played/watched this already, there was a rather excellent game called “Borg” where Q offers your character a chance to save his father who died at Wolf 359. (You’ll just have to excuse the Voyager uniforms.)
Sheltered behind technological advancement. “Whatever happens, we have got The Maxim gun, and they do not” - Hilaire Belloc. But if you consistently enjoy overwhelming technological advantage over whoever you fight you tend to stagnate. They are picking up tech from those they assimmilate - not researching and advancing themselves.
I think the key to Borg shielding is that they rely more on its ability to adapt to the point of being impervious to specific attacks instead of simply tanking the damage.
@@barrybend7189 The original robocop was a badass walking tank but as the films showed if the bad guys got the proper hardware the armor did little to protect him. As bad as the remake movie was the idea of a Robocob that was faster and more agile then a human cop makes much more sense.
1st Flaw, High Blood pressure from being short. 2nd Flaw, They are not on the Empires side. 3rd Flaw, Though they have the un-natural ability to pickup and use any tech they come across, they are still using non-black power weapons, though their edged weapons are obsidian dipped in toxins. 4th Flaw, they never share their magic potions used for making giant sections of land invisible nor themselves when they use it on themselves, its flaw is it can come off easily. 5th Flaw No toilet paper, unless you count their hands and arms. 6th Flaw They look to cute at a distance to want to shoot, ergo, they are not taken seriously. 7th Flaw, up close when its to late is when you can see how horrifying they are, its because they have no dentists. 8th Flaw, No endor plumbing, it all goes right over the side down bellow onto anyone that could be at ground level. 9th Flaw, Plays into the 6th, everyone wants to have you as a pet or stuffed animal 10th Flaw, Being that one Ewok that has to reset ever dam log trap used at the Battle of Endor, poor Speedy never came back home...
Just wear a *gold* lajme suit and the little buggers will all bow down and praise you - while you line up your autofire blaster. Hmm _blaster fried Ewok,_ sometimes the simple recipes are the best. You can overdo it with Porgs as well, just a simple roast, a few herbs at most. Let the flavour of the meat do the talking, not some fancy garnish.
Their slow movements can be easily explained: they're able to overwhelm their prey by sheer numbers alone; likewise, their ships' weaponry is capable of overpowering their prey's defenses.
*Fast Borg* …and how the collective almost had it in First Contact. The liberated Borg of Lore (Data's brother) were fast and had disruptors built in, but they weren't true Borg, being individuals and were _never mentioned again._ Even though Starfleet had contact with a group that had Borg tech, within their region. *_Realistically_* (ha!) Starfleet should have been getting transwarp tech and all the other Borg goodies from them while giving aid. A army of liberated drones that still had all their implants would be a great asset. Federation space crisscrossed with high speed networks, the weapons tech…hmm power creep - it would be like getting slipstream drive, transphasic torpedoes and armour generators all at once. But the first few drafts of *First Contact* also had much more scary and effective Borg in ground combat - partially to counter that Starfleet was going to be getting a serious power up as well. The Borg were going to attack with a Fleet, but Quantum torpedos were going to be anti Borg weapons that were as effective as Transphasic torpedoes on them. And the new Enterprise was going to have twin phaser cannon Gatling guns, on either side of the saucer section [you can see 2 squares on the design where they would've been, although an original look might've been a scaled up Nova class] that work like the Defiants main guns, except in a minigun style with _each individual phaser shot_ being a different frequency (and a different colour for visual effects). Thus the time travel Hail Mary makes more sense as the Federation are now a threat that could attack the Borg, so the plan is to eliminate it before it occurs [basically the Xindi sphere builders plot of Enterprise - the Spheres - the Borg Sphere, 💡!]. But this was rejected because the cost of such a massive battle sequence (thousands of ships) was going to be way over budget. Then it goes to the internal ship fight in the past, [different time periods were discussed, including the medieval, but First Contact was chosen early on] and assimilation of the Enterprise plot. But now the Borg get their power up… The Borg were supposed to be fast, viscous and jump scary in the onboard conflicts. They ambush from concealment inside their tech, which now has a bit more of a Xenomorph Hive feel, with Borg coming out from through the walls. Also cables were supposed to reach out and grab crew to assimilate - alcoves were no longest passive. The Borg were now also armed, with some kind of inbuilt energy weapon that's a powerful stunner (not sure if it fires a assimilating shot, or just leaves you paralysed while they charge forward and tube you). So the advanced parties of the crew get seriously overwhelmed as the Borg behave like Special Forces Xenomorphs with wrist guns. The Starfleet group gets ambushed with a surprise attack from the front with energy weapons fired fast and accurately while Borg reach out through walls and assimilation cables from the structure grab crew. The stunned crew are steamrolled and get injected as the Borg charge forward. The Borg don't really get any casualties. Serious wounds are not an issue, they can get repaired. Imagine Borg that would be a combination of both original and "Lore" Borg. Cyber fast and accurate, using cover and having adaptive shielding as a back up. And having guns and a hive mind… coordinated fire and moving as one, it would be like the Borg were playing a strategic game with a pause button, each drone in optimal firing position. [In the TV series Dollhouse, there was a episode where experimental soldiers get a group link and are incredibly improved for room clearing ect]. But once again it was nixed by the budget as well.
Another borg flaw: They get more weaknesses with each incarnation. They were created near invincible. With the TNG movie they were in, they went from being a collective to a hive mind with a queen bee. With each appearance in ST: Voyager, they grew another weakness. In the STO universe, they have no special abilities aside from you needing to use a borg adapter to reset your weapons to make them work after they adapt.
I cant remember if you mentioned it. But lack of individuality is also a major drawback it doesnt encourage free thinking which is a massive strength of humanity
the borg assimilate knowledge, they don't need individual creativity to invent things because they assimilate someone that has that knowledge and now they all have it.
Number 9. Was a _Hail Mary._ They could have just kept tanking hits till Picard determined their power grid was overloading in one section and coordinated fire. Otherwise they would have eventually destroyed the fleet. The Sphere time travel was a emergency plan that would have worked if Enterprise hadn't been in just the right spot to follow them. Basically the Borg yelled "Curses ̶J̶a̶n̶e̶w̶a̶y̶ Picard, foiled again". But it still has one flaw, the Borg assimilate technology as well as biology, by going back in time they remove the technological advances they would have gotten from humanity and the Federation and the rest of the Alpha quadrant, since it can be assumed that by the time of Enterprise [TV Show] they would have spread out and taken everyone since they were less advanced.
The Borg only have two problems. 1) They are essentially futuristic zombies, and zombies are really harmless. 2) The Borg are in Star Trek, and if they are too formidable, then they always win. In Star Trek, the good guys always win. Well, at least before STD.
Sphere, yes. Cube, probably less so. A sphere minimizes the distance from whatever central control or engines exists to every point and you can kind of see that being helpful, although it does kind of leave aside the issue of where the propulsion is. A cube seems like an odd choice, though. That said, they've also invested zero in putting up outer shells on the ships and just leave whatever conduits and what not exposed. Which is pretty stupid since the drones generally appear to need air to breath (at least most do, otherwise they wouldn't need to put air in the ships) and anyone going out to make a repair needs some sort of protection now. Plus the equipment is exposed to attack. Yeah, outer hulls in Star Trek are generally weak protection (Voyager's upgraded armor and, I believe, Defiant's default state not included), but it's better than nothing at all in the event that shields fail or are compromised.
@@bobbyfeet2240 nobody needs to go outside to make repairs, the borg has nanites that fix any damage done to the ship over time. they also don't need a hull or something like that all systems are spread mostly evenly throughout the structure so the whole thing can continue to function even with large parts missing and loosing half a million of drones doesn't even register as a minor inconvenience to the collective.
Their hoses are exposed thereby allowing their enemies to yank them out of their sockets. Well, that and they could snag on any of the greeblies located throughout the Borg ship.
To be honest I had always assumed they only went back in time in 'First Contact' because they lost the battle over earth They weren't expecting Picard to turn up with exact knowledge of where to hit them.
@@lancer737 Maybe the loss of the Queen screwed them up somehow? Maybe the failure of the mission made the Collective wary of doing it again as they didn't know WHY it failed this time.
Fun and informative video, thank you. With the very first introduction of the Borg on STTNG, and the quick discovery that you could beam anyone & anything on to a Borg vessel, I wondered why it didn’t occur to anyone to simply beam a photon-torpedo, set to maximum yield, onto the Borg vessel, as close to the center of the vessel as possible. 💥
To be fair the Terminator and Robocop we're designed for combat. The Borg are designed to attain information. They don't value combat because they don't honestly perceive anyone as a threat other than species 8472. The Borg actually a very direct and don't usually think tactically, but when they do they usually surprise the enemy. They assimilated Picard to pass through Federation defenses, and they reached out to the Federation for help against 8472. Another reason they probably don't care about how many they lose is because they know they can just make more. The Borg rarely care to be offensive because attaining information is always on their mind.
Additional Borg flaw: Even though it is stated that the Borg always retrieve their lost technology and drones, they fail to do so several times in the show, leaving drones to fend for themselves or form splinter groups. Examples: The people Chakotay encounters on a planet occupied by Ex-drones hell bent on destroying each others factions. The kid drones Voyager rescue from the infected cube. The three drones that come looking for Seven to find out why they are in a three way neural link, and the drones Lore is in control of at one point.
Those three drones trapped in three way neural link were part of Seven of Nine unimatrix cell. After they're cube crashed isolated planet. These Borg begin to remember their individual identities. It was Seven attempts to re-assimiate them which created issues.
@@paulhunter6742 Yes, but they shouldn't have been able to just wander off on their own without being followed by the collective. The only ones I can understand are the Borg kids who were infected and abandoned... but even they and their ship should have been destroyed rather than abandoned.
This is why I prefer the Mirror Borg, although they are Beta canon from one novella: _The Worst of Both Worlds_. They are lead by a Bog King in the novella (but the Botrg King is regenerated every time he's killed and is randomly reborn as a King or Queen each time), and the King thinks like a cold, calculating machine, instead of having all the emotional failings of the Prime Borg Queen. They still use cubes (although even _bigger_), but their drones are quick and agile, dodge often, so they rarely adapt, because even landing a single shot is really hard. They also have an "assimilate on sight" policy. They don't let you walk past until they consider you a threat, as they consider anyone not assimilated a threat. They're everything the P{rime Borg _should_ be. Too bad they only appear in one book.
At the first time we encounter the Borg (Q Who) two things bugged me (not in priority). The Borg ship turned to pursue Enterprise, why the need? The Borg ship (cube) should be corner first versus a face first to bring multiple systems (weapons, tractor beams, etc...) to bear. It's a shame we didn't have the phased cloaking device, we could fly in a small cloaked ship, drop off some cloaked photon torpedoes, then decloak and detonate them. Surprise! The Bork wouldn't know what happened (too fast to warn the hive) or possibly assume it's advanced transporter technology.
Are we not counting the flaw that they can just get snagged on a hook and be debilitated? Or magnetized due to their mass in conductive metals? Covered in plugs that can be yanked? Tools and weapons that have no observed purpose and are just bulky and reduce flexibility and CQC ability? The Borg succeed on screen because the show says so. WE could beat them in combat today! XD
And both in Voyager & Enterprise, depressurizing the deck of the ship renders them helplessly floating around in space, harmless to the ship moving away. Sort of like how a terrorist can do damage to a cruise liner, but once he's overboard treading water he can do nothing as the huge ship moves away faster & faster.
Regarding design flaw no. 9: my thoughts exactly. Go back in time before warp capable civilizations came about and then assimilate them before they become a threat, but then again this plot hole was needed for the movie.
The shield weakness displayed was allowed by the Queen to get the crew aboard the vessel to reclaim Seven of Nine actually. Also it was only a probe ship... Sort of on the weak side.
I remember when the Borg were THE over-powered race in ST:TNG. Then, outsmarting them once... the kings of adaptation, to get a ship to explode, it is assume they cannot be attacked like that again. Then, by the end of ST:TNG, it is assume the Borg decided attacking Starfleet was more effort than what it was worth. Then, Star Trek: First Contact happened. Okay, they became demoted from a continuum to a hierarchy led by a queen with toxic level hubris of that single being. Then ST: Voyager happened, they became mere war-of-attrition high-tech advantage-in-numbers beings. If the original Borg met the later-in-cannon Borg, that single cube would assimilate the later-in-cannon Borg while swatting away any resistance like bugs.
I wouldn't exactly say the Borg's vision is bad, as many of them can see into the infrared and ultraviolet range of the visible spectrum depending on their ocular implants, what might be a disadvantage is the Borg tend to specialize different drones for different purposes during assimilation meaning that not all Borg have the same range of vision. Some might be standard optical spectrum range reaching only beyond human vision while others might have ultraviolet vision, and others yet a type of radiowave vision similar to radar or sonar. So that in itself might be considered a weakness.
The borg always lose against humans because they are illogical, devided and creative and the borg are none of that. Also they always start with "Resistance is futile", as if that sentence alone doesn't make any human work twice as hard just out of pure spite
I don't get how the Borg are supposed to be dangerous anyway. Their energy shields only stop energy weapons which means people who use conventional firearms or even melee weapons can still wreck their stuff.
The Borgs main flaw: Becoming monster of the week. Just to think they started off so intimidating. Their ships self repaired, nothing was centralised and they were almost indestructible. As voyager ran out of ideas in creating new enemies they needed an overall "big bad" to hound the ship. So to make the Borg easier to defeat and understand as an enemy they included things such as the Borg queen, Seven of Nine and drones working at stations, which was at first totally unnecessary because all drones were originally plugged into the hive mind making the entire ship one big computer. For this reason the ships didn't really have "sections" as such so disabling them was that much harder....... to bad the narrative overused them. Sorry rant over.
The Borg can adapt to the brilliant military strategies of the Romulan Star Empire, the Klingons and even the cold logical intellectual prowess of the Vulcans. The Borg weren't prepared for a starship captain to lure them into his film noir detective holo-novel and then machine gun them to death with a weapon made out of hard light.
The Borg really should just send 100 cubes to Earth instead of one. They have 1000s, so if humans are really that annoying, it shouldn’t be a big deal.
Wasn’t 7 of 9 chosen to chase the time traveler captain because of her Borg enhanced vision? In several instances, we get specifications of what Borg can see up to temporal distortions.
I've said it once and I'll say a thousand times over. YOU CANNOT USE VOYAGER'S DEPICTION OF THE BORG. They were extremely nerfed for story line purposes. If you want a taste of what the TRUE essence of the borg is. Watch the Episode "Q who" star trek the next generation. Followed by the " Best of both worlds" that is the Borg collective I associate with. Not the cybernetic call of duty recruit level bots in Voyager. Although I did love voyager as a series tho😂 it's just the Borg SUCKED MAD ASS in that series
This is kinda the saddest thing about Star Trek. It had a lot of stellar episodes, but it also had a lot of crap episodes that had to be considered canon. If the Borg didn't become villains of the week in Voyager, these sort of weaknesses wouldn't have been comprehensible. Slow Borg and similar disadvantages were acceptable due to the hive-mind. Loosing like 16 Borg drones is small potatoes given the amount of numbers on a Borg cube if it meant overwhelming boarding parties. (Though I'm not well versed in the lore, I'd like to think that downed Borg drones could be "repaired" after the conflict was over, like space zombies) But thanks to things like Voyager, I would almost say that Borg Queens are a huge weakness, since they've caused more destruction to the Collective than enemies ships at times. And this is coming from someone who thought the Borg Queens could have been really cool.
Species 8472 remindes me of Tyranids from 40k. Bio ship's can survive in space or without atmosphere. They dotnt meed gravity. Only things you need are unlimited adaptability a hivemind and a galxies worth dead lifeless planet's.
Species 8472 sees some Tyranids; "Oh great - cousin Hive Mind is here. That guy is a total jerk who is giving our kind a bad name. Every species we encounter, it is the same story; shouting, screaming, trying to kill us, all because they think we are drooling monsters looking to consume all biomass on sight. It is terrible PR. At this rate, the only franchise we will ever get in fluidic space is another bloody Starbucks..."
Picard used a hollow deck machine gun with the hollow safety off and killed two drones so I was thinking if some one used a rifle or a machine gun or a grenade would the borg adapt to them it seems that the borg adapt to modulation of the phaser
I always figured that in First Contact, the Borg originally just intended to defeat the fleet and assimilate Earth, and that the time travel plan was a last ditch effort. Being a hive mind, they can come up with solutions and new ideas extremely quickly, so when it became obvious they would lose, they came up with plan B.
@@johnbockelie3899 I can't understand why the USS Voyager didn't have old Transwarp data files in the computer somewhere and begin replicating them Immediately. Really though, if I were making this show, Voyager would have come home looking very different from the original, covered with technology like, IDK... V'GER did?
The shape of the Borg ships are actual simplicity . It doesn't need to be aerodynamic to function properly in the vacuum of space . A quick edit , let me ask you the question , who won the race between The tortoise and the hare ? I think you're missing the point that they don't need to be fast . Most of their assimilation happens in space where they are much faster than most . At least their ships are . once you're on the ship where are you going to run to ? See no need to be fast .
11. The Borg Queen mircromanages EVERYTHING 12. Another aspect of over confidence is underestimating or overestimating their enemy. Planets that put up very limited resistance to them, they'll send 4 ships to as seen in the Voyager episode Dark Frontier, but planets with high resistance, they'll send only one ship to, like Earth 13 The Borg can't create ANYTHING, they assimilate knowledge from others and they can adapt that knowledge to some degree but from there, they can't create anything new. it's like if they assimilated humans in say the year 1800 the only form of aviation they could get from them would be ballooning. not gliders, not planes, not rockets, just ballooning
In the Voyager episode dealing with the Omega particle, didn't Seven say that the Borg were actively researching how to create and use it? I remember one line where she states how many drones were killed in an accidental explosion. That's always confused me, because as you said, I thought they could only assimilate knowledge and couldn't, or didn't, research it for themselves. The only thing that makes sense here, to me anyway, is that some race they assimilated had a theory about the Omega particle, and the Borg liked it so much they decided to actually look into it for themselves instead of waiting to assimilate the finished product from someone else.
@@joshuachase9742 That is my guess as well and since, as you say, their efforts weren't successful to say the least, the people that they assimilated it from probably blew themselves up as well In a way, its much like the cloaking that Annika Hansen's (7 of 9's parents) developed to shield their presence from the borg for two years and the borg assimilated leading to the events of the episode Unimatrix Zero part 1 The acquired the technology from Magnus Hansen but I don't think that if Janeway and her crew had improved upon it, the borg could've adapted to it
@@joshuachase9742 Another thing is Species 8472. They can't assimilate them (as of the end of voyager) so they can;t steal their knowledge That may be why they're interested in both them and the Omega Particle, one is the perfect biological thing in the galaxy, the other is the most perfect thing in the galaxy They probably learned about both from races they assimilated and they've been wanting both in their collective ever since Picard's white whale was the destruction of the borg, their white whale(s) are these two things
Too bad the Krenim never fired one of their Temporal Incursion weapons at the Borg. The Borg would have ceased to exist for all time, and this Trek fan would be a happy camper since he loathes the Borg and would love to see them erased forever.
But the Borg can outrun a cyberman. Those guys were really slow. Thanks to generation films for once again helping to keep the secrets of the Romulan Star Empire.
About Borg battle tactics they just tend to see what their oponents throw at them and adapt the simplest way to ensure immediate victory over them. They also think that panicking the enemies make them easier to assimilate. But Humans arre not the only species they underestimate. Species 8472 was their biggest mistake. As well as the Brunali and a few others (guys with transparent colored panels on the side of their helmet during the Raven wreckage episode if I recall) The Brunali (Icheb species) were the first that we know of who used viruses or genetic engineering to throw off the Borg, Icheb was even bio engineered specifically for this task. Making the Borg sever link with collective because of infected ships. Janeway just used this research in start of season 7 and pulled it further in End Game. As for Endgame, The Borg queen was just arrogant enough to dismiss what she already knew about Janeway trying to pull off a First Contact Temporal strategy... As for First Contact, I think they just used the temporal jump as a back up strat, the main strat was the same as Best of Both Worlds. Send a huge ship and assimilate everything they find and they didn't anticipate Enterprise E to show up and beat them fair and square when Fed ships were being destroyed one by one just as during Wolf 359...
The time travel thing in First Contact was a back up plan that the Borg had as they planned to assimilate Earth the normal way from the Cube. What they did not expect was Picard to overhear different parts of the cubes internal collective reporting that one of their shields was down and that the cube was thus vulnerable in that one small section and subsequently using that knowledge to blast the cube to bits. The Queen realizing their mistake launched the sphere with herself aboard and executed the time travel plan as she was certainly aware that the Sphere if it stayed would be quickly destroyed.
Normal people if a torpedo is beamed onto their ship: "Block the beam! We can't?! Beam it off to a random coordinate away from the ship!" The Borg: "SECURITY BREACH. IDENTIFY: STARFLEET PHOTON TORPEDO-"
I always thought all those tubes and wires all over them sticking out would be a nightmare of getting caught on anything they pass too close by. Plus it looked fuckin' stupid imo.
I have always considered the most obvious flaw is that Borg use control panels. If a drone's brain is directly coupled to the cube's central computer, why should they ever have to look at a display (which is being generated from that computer), and then enter commands at a terminal (which is fed back to the same computer)? They are deliberately adding two levels of interface (three if you consider processing by the individual drone) that require mechanical information transfer (the slowest form of data transfer). It would be much faster for a drone to process neural input directly from the computer (coming from the sensors), and neutrally transmit the processed data back. It would also reduce movement between different parts of the cube, making many of the passages inside unnecessary. The cubes could be built smaller for a given number of drones, or carry more drones, supplies, etc. for the same volume. And what actually motivates the Borg? What does a single individual (or small group) really add to the Borg as a whole? They don't have emotions (as we could understand them), or any real interest in stories, literature, or art; at least so far as any cannon has shown. Once you assimilate your first million or so individuals (and related technology) from any given species, the law of diminishing returns should start to take effect. Continuing to assimilate a species makes no sense, as they are unlikely to have made any real advances beneficial to the Borg (other that perhaps defenses against assimilation) in less than a generation.
It seems the Borg haven't learned an important detail the other powers of the quadrant were very much aware of: attacking Earth directly was not a good idea. Being the capital of the Federation, the Sol system was one of the most heavily guarded systems in the galaxy. Some of you might say that isn't true but it is. Earth's defenses include: - surveillance outposts throughout Federation space, which will alert Starfleet of an incoming threat many light years before they even reach Sector 001; - large defense fleets in Earth orbit as well as the neighboring star systems; - a space based defense perimeter in the orbit between Mars and Jupiter; - orbital weapons platforms throughout the system (non-canon). Because of this, we've never seen any zealous klingon or romulan captains deciding to attack Earth. They knew they stood no chance and such an attack is extremely unwise.
To me the biggest flaw is them getting some sort of queen. The original idea was that there would be no central figure. When the queen turned up I was terribly disappointed. Holywood always need a central big baddy. So predictable, so common, so boring.
Voyager (which used to be the worst of the franchise) tuened the Borg from a credible threat into a threat equal to a wheelchair bound two year old having a temper tantrum :(.
I think there is some credence to the idea that one of the reasons the Borg don't notice individuals until they become a threat is kinda like how you don't notice individual pathogens that might enter you body. The Borg consciousness is operating on a much higher scale, The Collective, and so is unlikely to notice any one individual invader or even any single drone until something goes wrong. View the Borg like a single "super-organism" with individual Borg acting like individual cells in your body. And, yes, this could be considered a weakness of any collective being made up of formerly individual beings.
I think the time travel thing was a back up plan after getting destroyed, which they never thought would happen. What I never understood was if humanity / the federation is such a prize, then why must one cube? We know from voyager they have heaps. So just send like 20 cubes, job done. 😂
If the star trek show had used any of robo cop, or terminator visual data. It would have been Patton infringement. As these are different intellectual properties.
The slow walking is because Borg are basically Zombies (classic Romero ones), the shamble towards you and if they "bite" you then you turn into a zombie. Half of all Borg flaws stem from this central thematic choice.
They go into battle with no sense that their bodies are actually their existence. Not like participating in some great democracy while recognizing that you are still you and if there isn't a "you" anymore you are gone. They don't see their own bodies as any more of an extension to themselves than any other drone they receive sensory input from and participate in making decisions for. So they are collectively playing themselves like proxies in a computer game on easy mode where if you "die" you can just spawn another "you" and continue.
I'm glad to see others talking about this
Most of the 'flaws' assume they have an individual survival need like humans do.
When I go to fix my car, do I consider it a flaw when I lose skin cells scraping my knuckles?
Yep, Borg are Space Zombies, Vulcans are Space Elves (Romulans are Dark Space Elves), Klingons are Space Orcs, and Ferengi are Space Goblins.
@@acedude112 and the Federation are Priests and Paladins (depending what ship you fly)
@@acedude112 What are the Changelings then, .. the slimes? Lol
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
*Starfleet officers beating them every time.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE, STOP RESISTING!
*Sad drone noises
There is a theory that the Borg have realized starfleets tremendous potential for innovation and are basically Farming them, basically letting them survive so they can develop new tech the borg can adapt
Starfleet barely survives them encounters though 😂
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547, that makes sense since the Borg don't actually create anything. This creates a paradox to their stated aim of perfection since a primitive race could, if left alone to develop, greatly enhance the Collective later and there's no way to know beforehand.
Voyager is realised on DVD: Borg have quit STO
@@saiyangod9640 except in Voyager which we all know is BS especially with the Borg.
Guys, sorry I said T 300 instead of T 800, my bad. Also, don't forget to click in the top right corner of the video to rank the Borg on a scale of 1-5! Happy Xeno hunting!
Hiya British Ben welcum back ^_^/
I was just about to say it's a T-800 not aT-300
Also Borg drones don't have built in lasers or stunners.
it's doesn't matter The terminators are not actual cyborgs as they function just fine with out their human skin a true cyborg requires both organic and inorganic components to life.
@@DenverStarkey so even if you're partially organic, you're still inferior. I guess those machines were right.
Admiral Paris : "I want every ship in range..."
Officer " The Enterprise is not in range"
Paris : " Well fuuuuck"
Everyone put on your red shirts.
@ValorJ Omega boy, you sure showed him
@ValorJ Omega well, statistically, even in TOS it wasn't even Red Shirts, it was Blue Shirts, by the numbers...Red Shirts are just easier to remember...
Gladly in Star Trek they do not use such primitive wording like "fuck". They have evolved beyond that. Luckily. Primitives are disgusting.
Anno 2019 can you say Star Trek:Discovery?
11: The Borg Queen has to communicate with her drones using sign language.
They are still somewhat biological right? "Laughs in flood"
No she speaks telepathically.
Happy One Hundred Day ☺
@@SiliconBong Thanks! ;-)
Its more of a telepathic command used. but she has used a hand signal to call the drones off, in the movie.
#11. They always forget everything they learned to adapt to. Every encounter with the borg that occurs. The borg always adapt to every phaser modulation fired at them.
Yeah, they show why and how the borg have been unstoppable, but constantly hit the reset button. Otherwise it'd be a quick checkmate the moment one Federation ship falls to the borg.
If I'm not mistaken dont the phasers operate at different frequencies and later on they run on modulated frequencies
The thing is, the borg always have that info to store, but their organic based minds can only access so much info at a time, so after an encounter, they dump that information to the hard drive. When they are attacked again, they request that info after a couple of shots and are immune again.
Plus it would make defeating the federation too easy for the plotlines.
Also disabled drones are of no consequence to the borg if it means it gives them the power to destroy their opponents. Sometimes the nanoprobes will repair the phaser damage essentially bringing the drone back to life just like seven does to neelix in voyager. Or the working parts are salvaged and returned to the collective.... Efficiency
I love the fact that one of the Borgs weaknesses amounts to going into standby mode.
Windows will update anytime it damn well pleases. Sorry 7... You're now 10 of 9.
That was pretty unique. They literally healed themselves to death.
Just like my computer...
That Borg implant runs on win 98 and not win7 or higher. the new update just renders it malfunction.
You missed one. Going off First Contact, the Borg are completely vulnerable to relatively primitive and (and I say this as someone who's fired a Thompson) fairly crude projectile weapons. Lose the phasers, issue M4A1s and the Borg lose any face to face confrontation.
till the borg adapt their shielding to handle projectiles instead of energy weapons.
@@DanielRichards644 then you pull out a phaser...point is it's only going block one type at a time and ppl have two hands
@@HO-os8ry where are you getting this idea that their shields only block one thing at a time? once they've adapted they've adapted, they don't drop support for a previous weapon when they develop support for a new weapon.
The fact that the Borg are in anyway biological is a flaw.
The shape of the ship is because in space the shape is less of an issue. It could also be to show that aesthetics are of little to no concern.
Yas Borg ships ARE FUCKING TOUGH
Pluse cubes and spheres are the two best designs to protect criticle systems. They can put as much as possible in the centre and its all well defended from any angle.
@@Olochgu Correct.
@@Olochgu exactly. Easy to construct as well
The Borg must've have started on species 0001. Undoubly those were biological, and must've assimilated themselves. Tech freaks who implant stuff onto their body and brains. The first Species we get info is the Borg Queens Species 125.. Those seem to stabilize the collective. I am no more expert than that.
What would happen if the Borg encountered a similar Collective/AI with the same goal? Who would assimilate who, and would the Borg agree to be assimilated by a superior collective?
They probably would allow to be assimilated if the other was superior and had the same goal.
There was a Cross over comic with the Eleventh Doctor and the TNG crew where the Cybermen and Borg had teamed up together. I think it was called Assimilation 2.
@@patroclusilliad233 didn't the Cyberman upgrade the Borg (their [the original] form of assimilation) in that comic?
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Yeah, they integrated each others technology to try and merge...while plotting to overrun and assimilate the others.
They actually did that with the Cybermen
You say a captured drone is a liability, but this list just makes the whole Borg collective, a liability.
the Borg were best when they were an enigmatic force, unknowable etc the more they put em in episodes and the more they/we learned the less scary they became, I would say after Wolf 359 why fear the Borg??? their appearance in Voyager made em out to be the mustache twirling villains of the week type enemy....sure they were more interesting than the Kazon but gods just had to overdo it.....
[taps shoulder] oh right, First "goddamn" Contact ugh naww man I totally passed on that one lolz
it's like Boba Fett in Star Wars, everyone wants his story yet if we get the whole story then he ceases to be cool and becomes man in cool armor number 1001
you explain your heroes and the primary villains that's it, never every single enemy.....
now what we do want is strong antagonists who feel some slight on their character who then go after the heroes for many episodes like Tomolak of Romulus was superb at this, the Duras Sisters were also superb, Voyager enemies could have been cool but they just made the worst characters, Kazon, Malon? basically raiders and slavers? the Vaudwar would have been an awesome antagonist, if they had been at the height of their power, a little crazy and highly territorial? that woulda been perfect for an enemy who'd chase voyager at least half the show's run lol imagine no Borg but the Vaudwar as the main antagonist with the Kazon and Malon as their vassels?? that'd make the whole setup better, I think I just fixed Voyager lolz
to be clear I loved the Borg as scary monsters but grew to resent their popularity and overuse cus they got turned into easily defeated foolish foes....
In the beginning the borg seemed like the absolute democracy, completely decentralized. Granted, all drones think in the same pattern but it is still a democracy, in some twisted way.
The idea of a borg queen completely undermines the nature of the borg network.
Without the queen and a centralized network they would be a threat to all in the Star Trek Universe.
The queen (and Locutus before her) dealt with the primary writing problem of the Borg - you can't get a good actor or actress to play the borg villain if they don't have a leader. They were not intended to be recurring villains as designed.
Very interesting video, definitely draws up some excellent points. However, I feel that you have made an error in that you are looking at the symptoms more than the actual flaws. The issues you have listed are part of the nature of the nature of the borg itself/themselves. One must remember that when it comes down to it, the borg are NOT species or race. The borg collective is a computer program, and more accurately a virus. All of the drones are simply infected hardware. The borg does not seek to conquer as much as it seeks to assimilate, to grow by absorbing more individuals. This is the reason behind many of its poor battle tactics. Also, the Borg cannot evolve on its own. It does little to nothing in the way of research, primarily adapting technology stolen from other races to suit itself. The reason why the photon torpedo trick worked is because no one had disrupted a ship 's shields then transported a bomb on board. No one had done it before so they had no defense against it.
As far as the vision goes, I would point out that we see through the eyes of the assimilated Voyager crew members who are resisting assimilation, not through the eyes of fully assimilated borg who might actually have a far more effective vision, somewhat more akin to Geordi's visor.
I love this and completely agree. The flaws he states in the video aren't necessarily flaws, but symptoms like you said. Like the one about being susceptible to viruses b/c they have organic parts. Well...that's literally every single biological life form. Even Species 8472. Using it as a flaw is just naming a way the universe works. So, pointless. One flaw should have been how Picard can use simple 9mm bullets to completely annihilate drones when all their high tech stuff does nothing. Would be a pretty serious flaw when you have a big weakness to low tech. Especially when the Borg Queen has talked about 7 of 9 losing her body armor. They're not really armored if small soft metal projectiles are able to pierce your high tech suits like tissue paper.
This all just seems to have not really had any input from fans that have been talking about and discussing these things for decades. There's plenty of other flaws that are much more legit if you were to bring it up to a group of fans that love and live this stuff. Good post, though.
But given their adaptability and high level of technology in other respects, their apparently zero interest in viral protection is a flaw. They don't appear to have any kind of upgraded immune systems that good sense would have suggested that they'd have.
The Borg went downhill once the Borg Queen was introduced for First Contact. Instead they should've made Dr Pulaski the new _Locutas of Borg._
*[WARNING, ESSAY]*
{I've posted this elsewhere, but it seems relevant here}
The problem was that the filmmakers wanted a *singular protagonist* for the heroes (Picard and Data) to act opposite and for dramatic interaction and dialogue, but the nature of the Borg and what makes them so terrifying is that they are a faceless foe, a force of nature that cannot be argued or engaged with - _"Listen. Understand. That Terminator is out there. It can't be reasoned with, it can't be bargained with. It doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear and it absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead"._
Giving them a Queen would be like making a Zombie King that ruled all the Walkers on *The Walking Dead.* It completely changes the concept of the Walkers and makes them a conventional bad guy, which destroys their essence. Track down and argue, reason, monologue, trick and kill the Zombie King and all the Walkers die, it would _jump the shark_ faster than a zombie sharknado. And at the very basic level the Borg are a horde of Cyberzombies, and should be treated as such for dramatic purposes.
That is the problem with making a film for general audiences and not just the fans (and unfortunately if you don't like it, then don't expect big budget films to be made), it tends to accommodate the casual viewer and studios are generally very risk adverse so they went for a traditional narrative and a generic bad guy [The Matrix was originally going to be humans used as computer capacity, our brains are amazing computers. The scene where a battery is held up was going to be some RAM sticks, but the producers didn't think a casual audience could grasp that, so…].
But what could they have done differently to make both groups happy and not dilute the purity of the Borg menace? Remember I mentioned Dr Pulaski, that is where the emotional shock and the interaction with an individual comes in.
In The Best of Both Worlds we see Picard get assimilated and turned into *Locutus of Borg,* still a individual, who not only engaged the crew in dramatic dialogue, but did so from the perspective of one of their own turned against them - The bad guy who was a former friend. To continue the Borg are cybernetic undead theme it's like when one of the good guys gets turned into a vampire and now uses their intimacy to hurt the heroes emotionally a well as strategically…
_"Your resistence is hopeless...Number One."_
[It can be seen to great effect in season two of Buffy with Angelus, her true love Angel is now her worst enemy through no fault of his own after losing his soul].
Having the Borg once again chose an *'Emissary'* keeps the concept of the Borg pure but allows for one on one dramatic interaction, but why Dr Pulaski?
Well having a newly introduced character assimilated lacks dramatic and emotional impact, and it gets into the redshirt trope, which has now become the revolving helmsman, I knew Lt Hawk was Borg fodder as soon as I saw him and it wasn't a shock (I was surprised the helmsman survived in Insurrection). So it's best for a series regular to become the new voice of the Borg, but who? Working through the list I realised instead of killing off a regular cast member why not reintroduce someone who was in the series, that fans knew and that casual viewers would go 'yeh, sorta remember' and most importantly would have a backstory with the characters and a casual familiarity that lets viewers know they're one of the gang (and not telegraph that they're going to cop it). At that describes Dr Pulaski, the only other candidates were either committed to DS9 or off discovering new Dimensions _"shut up Wesley"_ (and too contrived to reintroduce him, and if the Borg assimilated his power it's game over). Dr Pulaski was there for 20 episodes, the only other candidates were Guinan (Whoopi's hair under a bald patch?) but she's got another thousand years at least and they may have thought she could be required for further movies, she can keep turning up in different time periods including the far future. Or Lwaxana Troi, and her problem is she's a comedic character, and a telepath which just makes her overpowered versus Picard (only Data could outwit her). Also neither of these characters are human and the Borg would chose a _human_ to coordinate assimilating Earth.
So near the start of First Contact Dr Pulaski is visiting the new Enterprise and her old friends and that seems perfectly normal to the audience, she's just caught up in the battle, there's some fun doctor versus doctor banter between her and Dr Crusher about what's happened since she left regarding relationships and most importantly Dr Pulaski will discuss Data with Dr Crusher.
She was always obsessed with the idea of Data's sapience in TNG and had a complicated relationship with him, at times antagonistic but also respectful.
This would explain the Borgs new obsession with Data, Locutus considered Data irrelevant. _"The android, Data, primitive artificial organism. You will be obsolete in the new world order."_
With Pulaski at the helm, the Borg would change their assessment of Data. He had a daughter who died, he killed his twin brother and he has emotions, all of which happened after Pulaski left, she would be fascinated by this and it could show in some pre assimilation dialogue where she catches up with him and apologises for her previous attitude and mentions how he's grown as a person or individual. ("That's the nicest thing anyone had ever said to me Doctor"). And that allows for some deeply emotional conversations between Borg Pulaski and Data, about his family and development instead of the *cringeworthy seduction attempt* of the Borg Queen.
The scene where it's revealed that she's the new Borg Emissary has the potential for great drama as well, as they learn that their colleague is now the mastermind against them. And maybe she points out that the Borg are no longer vulnerable to being hacked like they did with Locutus ("We have adapted").
The actress who played Dr Pulaski had a thin face that would look suitably sinister as a Borg, and also her eventual death wouldn't effect series continuity (like bumping off one of the core seven and telling that actor "no more big movies for you, sorry about your career and mortgage").
Her removal from the collective would be just too contrived, being assimilated becomes too casual, give it some resonance, they won, but lost a friend. Also what about the moral implications of the Starfleet Borg they killed if they could've been rescued as well?
The only issue is they would have to come up with some other way to wipe out all the Borg that just 'they die without the Queen'.
But the Borg are not *sullied with individuality,* and it can even become part of their _modus operandi_ - they assimilate an Emissary to lead them in conquering a species, and if it doesn't work, they use a different individual to very their methodology. But it gives them insight into their victims psychology and tactics, and the most appropriate way to assimilate them, and is yet another strength of the Borg.
Also with Picard having insights into the Borg, it shows that the best weapon against the Borg is former Drones that have inside knowledge and can still 'feel' what the Borg is up to. He didn't target a particular weak spot that Cubes have (they have no weak spots, that's the basic idea of their design) he was able to intercept information from the Borg about where their systems were damaged, it's not like "maybe we should write that spot down". Seven of Nine could be played the same way, she understands where they are vulnerable, instead of just having Janeway outwit the Queen at every encounter while the Queen sputters _"JANEWAY (curses, foiled again!)"_
Now onto Voyager…
[*looks at length of this essay as a RUclips comment and thinks "Frack this, smeghead - May the tl:dr be with you"].
Although briefly (hah!) regarding Voyager, again instead of the Borg Queen they could have had a series regular assimilated as the new Borg Emissary, gives it the interaction without the mediocrity. And for that they could have gone with ensign Kim, (instead of having a death match with his agent using a hottest Asian actor listing in a magazine as a TKO to get rid of Kes) as they had planned to get rid of him in Scorpion. Or promote another actor from background (like Seska was) planning full well to eventually Borgify them.
I personally would have had Harry have a relationship near the start with Seven (her being the aggressor, much to the amusement of Paris and concern of Torres), and then in the episode where the Queen 'returns', (when the steal a transwarp coil, although she's not canon now) instead Harry gets assimilated and becomes _Kimatas of Borg._ That gives the crew a major shock, and sets back Seven's emotional development as blame goes round. It also keeps Kes in the cast, no doubt with some saphic undertones to her friendship and concern for Seven. Perhaps Kes can be given the same age slowing treatment the Oncampa travelers had, or she ages and eventually dies near the end of the series.
And it could explain why Janeway can beat the Borg, she (and Paris) knows Harry so well and can predict Kimatas's plans and tactics, using the Borg's strength of adopting an Emissary against them.
And maybe they later on save Harry/Kimatas (now with PTSD and issues) or Kimatas in Borgspace is a legacy of their voyages.
It lessens the *neutering* that the Borg got in Voyager…although having Voyager assimilated in the final episode would have been a great wrap up - see *_BLAKES 7_*
Especially if it's revealed that the Borg were stringing Voyager along as plan to get the Doctors 29th century mobile emitter, and the crew destroy it just in time… a pyrrhic victory.
Your changes to Voyager rely on Voyager having good writers.
So where did you post that essay too?
Haven't the producers done what you suggested with human woman who eventually induced to become a new Borg Queen in Picard series?
I would have to say that the 3 biggest Borg flaws would be...
1 their reliance on assimilation to reproduce: They possess the genetic templates of many species. They could have easily genetically engineered and cloned genetically superior hosts that were purpose built to interface with Borg technology. The fact that they were grown rather than assimilated would also prevent rebellion as these Superdrones were NEVER individuals.
2 their method of assimilation: Borg drones assimilated victims one at a time. They could have simply disbursed billions of nano probes into a ship's atmosphere processors thus beginning the assimilation process before a ship's crew even knew what was happening.
3 their inability to proactively register threats: Every time their ships are boarded by Starfleet personnel, they cause trouble. The similar uniforms and clear presence of weapons should automatically register them as a potential threat. It's also kind of strange that they can't seem to develop dampening field technology to prevent their weapons from being used in the first place.
borg don't just assimilate they also produce new drones on their own, based on the most suitable genetic traits gathered from other assimilated specimen, not all drones have been individuals,, they also don't assimilate people to increase their numbers (just making new drones themselves is faster), they assimilate in order to gain knowledge and genetic diversity, if they encounter a species that is unlikely to provide either, they'll just destroy it.
@@windhelmguard5295 Their drones would be WAAAAY better if that was true.
Borg - resistance if futile
Me - but you make it so easy
Borg - Resistance is Futile
Tony Stark - I am Iron Man * SNAP.... *SNAP?
Jim Rhodes - TONY YOU'RE WEARING THE MK 64, NOT YOUR INFINITY IRON SUIT!
Tony Stark - Who could have guessed it would be Zombies to do me in, I should have made that Anti-Zombie Iron Suit! *Recoils in terror
*EXPLOSION REVEALS CAPTAIN MARVEL
Carol Danver - Hello BOYS, I am here to tell you about the good word of Truth, Justice, Equity, and Feminism
Borg - GET BACK ON THE F^&KING SHIP!
* The Borg leave earth faster than time speed.
@Nospam Spamisham that's probably how the Borg came about in the first place
Me playing Star Trek online “Bro I lejit stole your shields and a borg arm which I use as my weapons
I'd love to see the Borg collective vs Skynet vs Cylons vs OCP/Omnicorps.
freeze1 Or Borg vs the Daleks
One major flaw that is overlooked is that their Signal can be easily jammed by subspace jammers, their Collective signal is in the lower wavelengths. Countless times when a subspace blocker is used it has caused the Borg in mass to die, explode which results in death or great injury, or they are knocked out. Ether way, it takes medial care to help people separated from the collective, they wont recover on their own unless they are lucky and one of their collective members has basic medical care skills. Also lost of Gas Clouds and or highly charged space phenomena is dangerous to the borg, its why I think they avoid going into phenomena like that and or have died from doing so like in the Voygager series when they find a dead ship full of dead borg in space.
Its because of this weakness the Galactic Empire, the Rebel Alliance, and any faction in any universe that uses ECM or powerful disruptive weapons like SW Ion weapons, that they actually would very easily kill the borg, if not accidentally kill the borg. If a fleet of Cubes flew into a dead zone where the Death Stars Tactical Jammers had created, all the ships will be stopped dead in their tracts. The Jammers dont just completely stop every single subspace signal, its stops all light, life, energy, holonet, radio, radar, radiation, gravity, and the more advanced sensors used in Star Wars ships.
Erm, when exactly has the Borg Collective signal been easily jammed? What episodes or films?
@@Acrosurge They did so in both episodes when they were taking Picard and 7 or 9 away from the Borg. We usually see them avoid nebulas, and we saw them lose their signals in the episodes when a scouting group was forced to make a mini collective that never went back to the collective.
@@lancer737 " They did so in both episodes when they were taking Picard and 7 or 9 away from the Borg." If you are referencing Best of Both Worlds, then no. The Enterprise crew did not jam the Collective's signal to the Borg Cube. They could have blocked Picard/Locutus's personal link to the Collective, but decided against it because it would cause Locutus to immediately self destruct. As for 7 of 9, again, they could not jam the signal to the Borg Collective. Commander Chakotay used his previous Borg implants to establish a link with 7 and then Lieutenant Torres uses that link to send a power surge through 7's Borg transceiver. No jamming. A direct link was necessary to disrupt one drone.
"We usually see them avoid nebulas" Do we? The Borg built their transwarp hubs, which allow they to deploy anywhere in the galaxy in minutes, in the middle of nebulae. In what instance do we see them avoiding nebulae because it will disrupt their link to the Collective?
"we saw them lose their signals in the episodes when a scouting group was forced to make a mini collective that never went back to the collective" I assume you are referencing the Voyager episode Unity. Here, a single Borg Cube was badly damaged by an electrokinetic storm and its neuro-electric field generator destroyed. This is what severed the Cube's link to the Collective. Again, no jamming.
The fact is, the Collective's signal, assuming devices to propagated it, is demonstrably robust, even in the face of such things as nebulae, powerful ion storms, and even temporal distortions. I do not think canon Imperial jamming will fare any better, considering the limits of canon Imperial sensors.
@@Acrosurge You didnt reply, I guess my message is blocked because it has links. I am re-posting my original response without any links.
The episode with Picard does have his signal jammed, 7 of 9 was different apparently in that story how she lost her connection, but we still see what happens to Borg that do lose their connection to the Collective and its devastating, including the 8th movie.
We see the Borg avoid lots of Nebulas, especially in the episode in which they are trying to abduct Picard. Instead of flat out chasing the Enterprise D.
They resort to trying to depth charge the D to get it out.
The place with the Trans warp network is obviously not dense enough to hamper their signals.
The episode with with making a mini collective was an example used for what happens when they do lose their connection and through means not involving jamming, an Ion weapon like the Super Heavy Ion Cannons on Star Destroyers or Ion Torpedoes should have a similar effect if not much faster than what those storms did to the Borg ships.
SW jamming, especially from Imperial ships, especially a Death Star would easily jam the Collective since lesser has blocked the Borgs. Theirs nothing showing that Star Wars sensors are weak, especially since just one type of sensor out of lots that Star Destroyers use have a 100 Light Year FTL range. Them flying right at a Proto Star within a huge nebula of proto stars appear to have next to no effect on the Star Fighter in SW Rebels, let alone a Capital ship.
You just had to work in a crack at Discovery and its... unique alternative to conventional Warp Drives, didn't you British Ben? ;-)
had to
It was plagiarism by Cbs.
The Borg are great but did they ever develop resistance to projectile weapons like.........BULLETS?!?! Give me the minigun from Predator and no Borg is safe.
and then you realize that they can just keep the drones coming until you run out of bullets.
Personal shields...
@@windhelmguard5295 it's TV. 99% chance I won't even have to change the magazine/belt :)
@@KennethWaites yeah those personal shields seemed to work great against picards tommy-gun.
@@windhelmguard5295 100 round drum mags exist for a reason
After this please do a best mech based armies in sci-fi please. My suggestion is the UN Spacey from SDF Macross.
Or Gundam
Macross is Space Opera, like Flash or Star Wars, it doesn't count as sci-fi.
@@animeturnMMD I'd like to partially disagree there. Its sci-fi enough. Its more Stargate than expanse.
Mass effects systems alliance
@@inquisitordalius3388 no as they only employ atlas powered armor units. No actual mechs.
In Voyager, when 7 was being rescued. You hear the doctor say to Janway, every borg has their own communication link. The ability to talk to 7 without the collective knowing.
Transporting weapons aboard enemy vessels in combat is such an obvious tactic that it's amazing we only ever see it used once by Voyager against the borg probe that they apparently wanted to disable rather than destroy. It's just one of the OP uses of the transporter that writers have to ignore in order to stop having the transporter be the solution to all problems.
These aren't flaws with the Borg... these are flaws with unimaginative , lazy writers who don't know how to write for juggernaut horrors.
Yeah, they were scarier before the introduction of the Borg queen. A ominous hive mind is a far more scary and much more alien concept.
The Star Trek Universe was lazy from day one, and far too silly to contain juggernaut horrors.
Berman and Braga were a cancer. I can sum up nearly every plot to Voyager with one word. Tachyon, tachyon, tachyon, tachyon.
Like the big guy from Resident Evil 2. He was freaking scary. Slow, but practically unstoppable - and he would suddenly do unexpected things, like break through a wall when you thought you were safe.
@@TheCJUN The original presentation of them was scary. The way the drones made no effort to protect themselves as they went about their duties. Brilliant. Each individual mind in the collective resides in a drone but has no particular identity with its own body as it receives sensory input from all drones. So a drone goes into battle with no more regard for its own body's survival than we have for our proxy in a computer game.
But consider also how the Ferengi were presented. They start out as powerful technologically advanced rivals and then just end up comic relief.
One of the interesting problems of the BORG (looking at this
episodically as opposed to a canonical time line view) is that as initially
presented, the BORG was more of a force of nature than a villain. While this is
mutated over time, especially with the introduction of the BORG queen, the initial
model of the BORG is more like an ant colony than anything else; intelligent
but non-sentient. (Fast forward ten years in earth’s history from the original
plot lines of Next Generation and scientific studies confirmed that sensory
overload - in the case of the studies of drug effects - can result in a loss of
self-identity.) A lot of the flaws of the BORG are based off the ant model;
they evolve to solve the problem and if they don’t then the next group will or
the one after that and so on and so forth. Most of the real flaws of the BORG
was the result of trying to make the BORG a “villain” and not a force of
nature, including fascination and species assimilation (the original BORG was
technological assimilation, the concept of species assimilation given the
divergence of non-carbon based lifeforms in the Star Trek universe has plot holes
so large you can pilot a Dyson sphere through them). Both elements were
necessary in order to make the BORG a villain which in turn made them easy to
defeat.
Flaw 0: They're nothing but an *inferior* rip-off of the Cybermen from _Doctor Who_
But, hey, _Star Trek_ features time travel almost as much as _DW_ so they might as well steal ideas from it... The only reason they haven't ripped off the Daleks is that Terry Nation's estate would boil those responsible in oil.
3:00 If you haven’t played/watched this already, there was a rather excellent game called “Borg” where Q offers your character a chance to save his father who died at Wolf 359. (You’ll just have to excuse the Voyager uniforms.)
"Resistance is futile". That phrase alone spells arrogance. And that has been the downfall of many empires and individual leaders of Earth.
Sheltered behind technological advancement. “Whatever happens, we have got The Maxim gun, and they do not” - Hilaire Belloc. But if you consistently enjoy overwhelming technological advantage over whoever you fight you tend to stagnate. They are picking up tech from those they assimmilate - not researching and advancing themselves.
I think the key to Borg shielding is that they rely more on its ability to adapt to the point of being impervious to specific attacks instead of simply tanking the damage.
I was confused about Robocop until I realized you reference remake... WHICH DID NOT HAPPEN, EVER.
That isn't robocop
Not the real robocop
Robocop was slow but menacing. Take it from the original cylons chrome is threatening.
Different version
@@barrybend7189 if it works for Terminators
Thank you!
@@barrybend7189 The original robocop was a badass walking tank but as the films showed if the bad guys got the proper hardware the armor did little to protect him. As bad as the remake movie was the idea of a Robocob that was faster and more agile then a human cop makes much more sense.
I'm still waiting for 10 Flaws of the Ewoks.
1st Flaw, High Blood pressure from being short.
2nd Flaw, They are not on the Empires side.
3rd Flaw, Though they have the un-natural ability to pickup and use any tech they come across, they are still using non-black power weapons, though their edged weapons are obsidian dipped in toxins.
4th Flaw, they never share their magic potions used for making giant sections of land invisible nor themselves when they use it on themselves, its flaw is it can come off easily.
5th Flaw No toilet paper, unless you count their hands and arms.
6th Flaw They look to cute at a distance to want to shoot, ergo, they are not taken seriously.
7th Flaw, up close when its to late is when you can see how horrifying they are, its because they have no dentists.
8th Flaw, No endor plumbing, it all goes right over the side down bellow onto anyone that could be at ground level.
9th Flaw, Plays into the 6th, everyone wants to have you as a pet or stuffed animal
10th Flaw, Being that one Ewok that has to reset ever dam log trap used at the Battle of Endor, poor Speedy never came back home...
@@lancer737 No. 11: They're tasty when barbecued and drizzled with hot sauce or horseradish. 😀
It would be interesting to see them evolve
Just wear a *gold* lajme suit and the little buggers will all bow down and praise you - while you line up your autofire blaster.
Hmm _blaster fried Ewok,_ sometimes the simple recipes are the best.
You can overdo it with Porgs as well, just a simple roast, a few herbs at most.
Let the flavour of the meat do the talking, not some fancy garnish.
The Ewoks have flaws?
Their slow movements can be easily explained: they're able to overwhelm their prey by sheer numbers alone; likewise, their ships' weaponry is capable of overpowering their prey's defenses.
*Fast Borg* …and how the collective almost had it in First Contact.
The liberated Borg of Lore (Data's brother) were fast and had disruptors built in, but they weren't true Borg, being individuals and were _never mentioned again._ Even though Starfleet had contact with a group that had Borg tech, within their region.
*_Realistically_* (ha!) Starfleet should have been getting transwarp tech and all the other Borg goodies from them while giving aid.
A army of liberated drones that still had all their implants would be a great asset. Federation space crisscrossed with high speed networks, the weapons tech…hmm power creep - it would be like getting slipstream drive, transphasic torpedoes and armour generators all at once.
But the first few drafts of *First Contact* also had much more scary and effective Borg in ground combat - partially to counter that Starfleet was going to be getting a serious power up as well.
The Borg were going to attack with a Fleet, but Quantum torpedos were going to be anti Borg weapons that were as effective as Transphasic torpedoes on them.
And the new Enterprise was going to have twin phaser cannon Gatling guns, on either side of the saucer section [you can see 2 squares on the design where they would've been, although an original look might've been a scaled up Nova class] that work like the Defiants main guns, except in a minigun style with _each individual phaser shot_ being a different frequency (and a different colour for visual effects).
Thus the time travel Hail Mary makes more sense as the Federation are now a threat that could attack the Borg, so the plan is to eliminate it before it occurs [basically the Xindi sphere builders plot of Enterprise - the Spheres - the Borg Sphere, 💡!].
But this was rejected because the cost of such a massive battle sequence (thousands of ships) was going to be way over budget.
Then it goes to the internal ship fight in the past, [different time periods were discussed, including the medieval, but First Contact was chosen early on] and assimilation of the Enterprise plot.
But now the Borg get their power up…
The Borg were supposed to be fast, viscous and jump scary in the onboard conflicts.
They ambush from concealment inside their tech, which now has a bit more of a Xenomorph Hive feel, with Borg coming out from through the walls. Also cables were supposed to reach out and grab crew to assimilate - alcoves were no longest passive.
The Borg were now also armed, with some kind of inbuilt energy weapon that's a powerful stunner (not sure if it fires a assimilating shot, or just leaves you paralysed while they charge forward and tube you).
So the advanced parties of the crew get seriously overwhelmed as the Borg behave like Special Forces Xenomorphs with wrist guns. The Starfleet group gets ambushed with a surprise attack from the front with energy weapons fired fast and accurately while Borg reach out through walls and assimilation cables from the structure grab crew. The stunned crew are steamrolled and get injected as the Borg charge forward.
The Borg don't really get any casualties. Serious wounds are not an issue, they can get repaired.
Imagine Borg that would be a combination of both original and "Lore" Borg.
Cyber fast and accurate, using cover and having adaptive shielding as a back up. And having guns and a hive mind… coordinated fire and moving as one, it would be like the Borg were playing a strategic game with a pause button, each drone in optimal firing position. [In the TV series Dollhouse, there was a episode where experimental soldiers get a group link and are incredibly improved for room clearing ect].
But once again it was nixed by the budget as well.
Wow.. Thanks!!!
Sounds like sg1 super soldiers.
I still remember Media Zealots video on this- "and walls, they run into walls"
Another borg flaw: They get more weaknesses with each incarnation. They were created near invincible. With the TNG movie they were in, they went from being a collective to a hive mind with a queen bee. With each appearance in ST: Voyager, they grew another weakness. In the STO universe, they have no special abilities aside from you needing to use a borg adapter to reset your weapons to make them work after they adapt.
I cant remember if you mentioned it. But lack of individuality is also a major drawback it doesnt encourage free thinking which is a massive strength of humanity
the borg assimilate knowledge, they don't need individual creativity to invent things because they assimilate someone that has that knowledge and now they all have it.
Number 9. Was a _Hail Mary._
They could have just kept tanking hits till Picard determined their power grid was overloading in one section and coordinated fire. Otherwise they would have eventually destroyed the fleet.
The Sphere time travel was a emergency plan that would have worked if Enterprise hadn't been in just the right spot to follow them.
Basically the Borg yelled "Curses ̶J̶a̶n̶e̶w̶a̶y̶ Picard, foiled again".
But it still has one flaw, the Borg assimilate technology as well as biology, by going back in time they remove the technological advances they would have gotten from humanity and the Federation and the rest of the Alpha quadrant, since it can be assumed that by the time of Enterprise [TV Show] they would have spread out and taken everyone since they were less advanced.
which is why it was the backup plan and not the primary plan
Three things in star trek that make you scary.
1: when you assimilate the Borg
2: when you scare a klingon
3: when you pass the kobayashi maru
Stargate wraiths next please
The Borg only have two problems.
1) They are essentially futuristic zombies, and zombies are really harmless.
2) The Borg are in Star Trek, and if they are too formidable, then they always win. In Star Trek, the good guys always win. Well, at least before STD.
Realistically a cube or sphere ship is actually a good idea if you plan to get in a fight.
Sphere, yes. Cube, probably less so. A sphere minimizes the distance from whatever central control or engines exists to every point and you can kind of see that being helpful, although it does kind of leave aside the issue of where the propulsion is. A cube seems like an odd choice, though.
That said, they've also invested zero in putting up outer shells on the ships and just leave whatever conduits and what not exposed. Which is pretty stupid since the drones generally appear to need air to breath (at least most do, otherwise they wouldn't need to put air in the ships) and anyone going out to make a repair needs some sort of protection now. Plus the equipment is exposed to attack. Yeah, outer hulls in Star Trek are generally weak protection (Voyager's upgraded armor and, I believe, Defiant's default state not included), but it's better than nothing at all in the event that shields fail or are compromised.
@@bobbyfeet2240
nobody needs to go outside to make repairs, the borg has nanites that fix any damage done to the ship over time.
they also don't need a hull or something like that all systems are spread mostly evenly throughout the structure so the whole thing can continue to function even with large parts missing and loosing half a million of drones doesn't even register as a minor inconvenience to the collective.
a sphere has the largest volume to surface ratio.
Triangles like SW star destroyers are the best to deliver as much forward pointed weapon as possible.
Their hoses are exposed thereby allowing their enemies to yank them out of their sockets. Well, that and they could snag on any of the greeblies located throughout the Borg ship.
To be honest I had always assumed they only went back in time in 'First Contact' because they lost the battle over earth They weren't expecting Picard to turn up with exact knowledge of where to hit them.
Still, as a 3rd attempt, why didnt they just time travel else where and make their way to a defenseless earth?
@@lancer737 Maybe the loss of the Queen screwed them up somehow? Maybe the failure of the mission made the Collective wary of doing it again as they didn't know WHY it failed this time.
Fun and informative video, thank you.
With the very first introduction of the Borg on STTNG, and the quick discovery that you could beam anyone & anything on to a Borg vessel, I wondered why it didn’t occur to anyone to simply beam a photon-torpedo, set to maximum yield, onto the Borg vessel, as close to the center of the vessel as possible. 💥
To be fair the Terminator and Robocop we're designed for combat. The Borg are designed to attain information. They don't value combat because they don't honestly perceive anyone as a threat other than species 8472. The Borg actually a very direct and don't usually think tactically, but when they do they usually surprise the enemy. They assimilated Picard to pass through Federation defenses, and they reached out to the Federation for help against 8472. Another reason they probably don't care about how many they lose is because they know they can just make more. The Borg rarely care to be offensive because attaining information is always on their mind.
The Borg need an aesthetic update. They may have looked advanced in the 80s, but not today.
@ValorJ Omega Both
Additional Borg flaw: Even though it is stated that the Borg always retrieve their lost technology and drones, they fail to do so several times in the show, leaving drones to fend for themselves or form splinter groups. Examples: The people Chakotay encounters on a planet occupied by Ex-drones hell bent on destroying each others factions. The kid drones Voyager rescue from the infected cube. The three drones that come looking for Seven to find out why they are in a three way neural link, and the drones Lore is in control of at one point.
Those three drones trapped in three way neural link were part of Seven of Nine unimatrix cell. After they're cube crashed isolated planet. These Borg begin to remember their individual identities. It was Seven attempts to re-assimiate them which created issues.
@@paulhunter6742 Yes, but they shouldn't have been able to just wander off on their own without being followed by the collective. The only ones I can understand are the Borg kids who were infected and abandoned... but even they and their ship should have been destroyed rather than abandoned.
I noticed in your example of robocup you use the new version and not the old.
Sidenote: I prefer the old version over the new.😎
This is why I prefer the Mirror Borg, although they are Beta canon from one novella: _The Worst of Both Worlds_.
They are lead by a Bog King in the novella (but the Botrg King is regenerated every time he's killed and is randomly reborn as a King or Queen each time), and the King thinks like a cold, calculating machine, instead of having all the emotional failings of the Prime Borg Queen. They still use cubes (although even _bigger_), but their drones are quick and agile, dodge often, so they rarely adapt, because even landing a single shot is really hard. They also have an "assimilate on sight" policy. They don't let you walk past until they consider you a threat, as they consider anyone not assimilated a threat. They're everything the P{rime Borg _should_ be. Too bad they only appear in one book.
At the first time we encounter the Borg (Q Who) two things bugged me (not in priority).
The Borg ship turned to pursue Enterprise, why the need?
The Borg ship (cube) should be corner first versus a face first to bring multiple systems (weapons, tractor beams, etc...) to bear.
It's a shame we didn't have the phased cloaking device, we could fly in a small cloaked ship, drop off some cloaked photon torpedoes, then decloak and detonate them. Surprise!
The Bork wouldn't know what happened (too fast to warn the hive) or possibly assume it's advanced transporter technology.
Are we not counting the flaw that they can just get snagged on a hook and be debilitated? Or magnetized due to their mass in conductive metals? Covered in plugs that can be yanked? Tools and weapons that have no observed purpose and are just bulky and reduce flexibility and CQC ability?
The Borg succeed on screen because the show says so. WE could beat them in combat today! XD
And both in Voyager & Enterprise, depressurizing the deck of the ship renders them helplessly floating around in space, harmless to the ship moving away. Sort of like how a terrorist can do damage to a cruise liner, but once he's overboard treading water he can do nothing as the huge ship moves away faster & faster.
The Borg coustume must be hard to move in. So for the borg to go to the bathroom well.
Borg ships come in almost innumerable amounts of shapes, including tetrahedrons, and dudecahedrons.
Regarding design flaw no. 9: my thoughts exactly. Go back in time before warp capable civilizations came about and then assimilate them before they become a threat, but then again this plot hole was needed for the movie.
The shield weakness displayed was allowed by the Queen to get the crew aboard the vessel to reclaim Seven of Nine actually. Also it was only a probe ship... Sort of on the weak side.
I remember when the Borg were THE over-powered race in ST:TNG. Then, outsmarting them once... the kings of adaptation, to get a ship to explode, it is assume they cannot be attacked like that again. Then, by the end of ST:TNG, it is assume the Borg decided attacking Starfleet was more effort than what it was worth. Then, Star Trek: First Contact happened. Okay, they became demoted from a continuum to a hierarchy led by a queen with toxic level hubris of that single being. Then ST: Voyager happened, they became mere war-of-attrition high-tech advantage-in-numbers beings.
If the original Borg met the later-in-cannon Borg, that single cube would assimilate the later-in-cannon Borg while swatting away any resistance like bugs.
I wouldn't exactly say the Borg's vision is bad, as many of them can see into the infrared and ultraviolet range of the visible spectrum depending on their ocular implants, what might be a disadvantage is the Borg tend to specialize different drones for different purposes during assimilation meaning that not all Borg have the same range of vision. Some might be standard optical spectrum range reaching only beyond human vision while others might have ultraviolet vision, and others yet a type of radiowave vision similar to radar or sonar. So that in itself might be considered a weakness.
The borg always lose against humans because they are illogical, devided and creative and the borg are none of that.
Also they always start with "Resistance is futile", as if that sentence alone doesn't make any human work twice as hard just out of pure spite
I don't get how the Borg are supposed to be dangerous anyway. Their energy shields only stop energy weapons which means people who use conventional firearms or even melee weapons can still wreck their stuff.
The Borgs main flaw: Becoming monster of the week.
Just to think they started off so intimidating. Their ships self repaired, nothing was centralised and they were almost indestructible.
As voyager ran out of ideas in creating new enemies they needed an overall "big bad" to hound the ship. So to make the Borg easier to defeat and understand as an enemy they included things such as the Borg queen, Seven of Nine and drones working at stations, which was at first totally unnecessary because all drones were originally plugged into the hive mind making the entire ship one big computer. For this reason the ships didn't really have "sections" as such so disabling them was that much harder....... to bad the narrative overused them.
Sorry rant over.
well like I always say, in movies, the armies is weak for plot reasons, but in lore-wise, the armies is much more dangerous
The Enterprise E reactor has a warning label saying " NO SHARP OBJECTS SUCH AS ANDROID HANDS ECT."
As a fellow Ben
WE don't talk about THAT Robocop
@Zerebrat Eightyseven I prefer my Robocop as a Jesus allegory but with high explosives
What is the Borgs favourite Beatles song?
"We all sleep in a single sub-routine... A single sub-routine.. A single sub-routine".
The Borg can adapt to the brilliant military strategies of the Romulan Star Empire, the Klingons and even the cold logical intellectual prowess of the Vulcans.
The Borg weren't prepared for a starship captain to lure them into his film noir detective holo-novel and then machine gun them to death with a weapon made out of hard light.
The t-300 screen is actually the t-800
Ah shucks
The Borg really should just send 100 cubes to Earth instead of one. They have 1000s, so if humans are really that annoying, it shouldn’t be a big deal.
Wasn’t 7 of 9 chosen to chase the time traveler captain because of her Borg enhanced vision? In several instances, we get specifications of what Borg can see up to temporal distortions.
I've said it once and I'll say a thousand times over. YOU CANNOT USE VOYAGER'S DEPICTION OF THE BORG. They were extremely nerfed for story line purposes. If you want a taste of what the TRUE essence of the borg is. Watch the Episode "Q who" star trek the next generation. Followed by the " Best of both worlds" that is the Borg collective I associate with. Not the cybernetic call of duty recruit level bots in Voyager. Although I did love voyager as a series tho😂 it's just the Borg SUCKED MAD ASS in that series
This is kinda the saddest thing about Star Trek. It had a lot of stellar episodes, but it also had a lot of crap episodes that had to be considered canon. If the Borg didn't become villains of the week in Voyager, these sort of weaknesses wouldn't have been comprehensible. Slow Borg and similar disadvantages were acceptable due to the hive-mind. Loosing like 16 Borg drones is small potatoes given the amount of numbers on a Borg cube if it meant overwhelming boarding parties. (Though I'm not well versed in the lore, I'd like to think that downed Borg drones could be "repaired" after the conflict was over, like space zombies)
But thanks to things like Voyager, I would almost say that Borg Queens are a huge weakness, since they've caused more destruction to the Collective than enemies ships at times. And this is coming from someone who thought the Borg Queens could have been really cool.
Species 8472 remindes me of Tyranids from 40k.
Bio ship's can survive in space or without atmosphere. They dotnt meed gravity.
Only things you need are unlimited adaptability a hivemind and a galxies worth dead lifeless planet's.
Species 8472 sees some Tyranids; "Oh great - cousin Hive Mind is here. That guy is a total jerk who is giving our kind a bad name. Every species we encounter, it is the same story; shouting, screaming, trying to kill us, all because they think we are drooling monsters looking to consume all biomass on sight. It is terrible PR. At this rate, the only franchise we will ever get in fluidic space is another bloody Starbucks..."
Picard used a hollow deck machine gun with the hollow safety off and killed two drones so I was thinking if some one used a rifle or a machine gun or a grenade would the borg adapt to them it seems that the borg adapt to modulation of the phaser
I always figured that in First Contact, the Borg originally just intended to defeat the fleet and assimilate Earth, and that the time travel plan was a last ditch effort. Being a hive mind, they can come up with solutions and new ideas extremely quickly, so when it became obvious they would lose, they came up with plan B.
Hack one borg (Hugh), and you've hacked them all.
(Assimilating them first is the answer)
The Borg got a hold of the rejected trans warp reactor from the Excelsior project and figured it out.
@@johnbockelie3899 I can't understand why the USS Voyager didn't have old Transwarp data files in the computer somewhere and begin replicating them Immediately. Really though, if I were making this show, Voyager would have come home looking very different from the original, covered with technology like, IDK... V'GER did?
In the STNG the eps "I Borg" Huge is given a picture to look at to cripple the Borg. A picture that does not really exist can bring down the Borg.
It didn't though. The Borg simply isolated the affected vessel and went on about their business.
The shape of the Borg ships are actual simplicity . It doesn't need to be aerodynamic to function properly in the vacuum of space . A quick edit , let me ask you the question , who won the race between The tortoise and the hare ? I think you're missing the point that they don't need to be fast . Most of their assimilation happens in space where they are much faster than most . At least their ships are . once you're on the ship where are you going to run to ? See no need to be fast .
That was just a joke at the beginning, not one of the actual flaws
Remember the tng episode where they took the Borg down in a hologram, with a Thompson 45? Why didn't they use them all the time?
11. The Borg Queen mircromanages EVERYTHING
12. Another aspect of over confidence is underestimating or overestimating their enemy. Planets that put up very limited resistance to them, they'll send 4 ships to as seen in the Voyager episode Dark Frontier, but planets with high resistance, they'll send only one ship to, like Earth
13 The Borg can't create ANYTHING, they assimilate knowledge from others and they can adapt that knowledge to some degree but from there, they can't create anything new. it's like if they assimilated humans in say the year 1800 the only form of aviation they could get from them would be ballooning. not gliders, not planes, not rockets, just ballooning
In the Voyager episode dealing with the Omega particle, didn't Seven say that the Borg were actively researching how to create and use it? I remember one line where she states how many drones were killed in an accidental explosion.
That's always confused me, because as you said, I thought they could only assimilate knowledge and couldn't, or didn't, research it for themselves. The only thing that makes sense here, to me anyway, is that some race they assimilated had a theory about the Omega particle, and the Borg liked it so much they decided to actually look into it for themselves instead of waiting to assimilate the finished product from someone else.
@@joshuachase9742 That is my guess as well and since, as you say, their efforts weren't successful to say the least, the people that they assimilated it from probably blew themselves up as well
In a way, its much like the cloaking that Annika Hansen's (7 of 9's parents) developed to shield their presence from the borg for two years and the borg assimilated leading to the events of the episode Unimatrix Zero part 1
The acquired the technology from Magnus Hansen but I don't think that if Janeway and her crew had improved upon it, the borg could've adapted to it
@@joshuachase9742 Another thing is Species 8472. They can't assimilate them (as of the end of voyager) so they can;t steal their knowledge
That may be why they're interested in both them and the Omega Particle, one is the perfect biological thing in the galaxy, the other is the most perfect thing in the galaxy
They probably learned about both from races they assimilated and they've been wanting both in their collective ever since
Picard's white whale was the destruction of the borg, their white whale(s) are these two things
Too bad the Krenim never fired one of their Temporal Incursion weapons at the Borg. The Borg would have ceased to exist for all time, and this Trek fan would be a happy camper since he loathes the Borg and would love to see them erased forever.
Flaw #11 when attacking Earth or the Federation use more than just one cube...send a fleet!
But the Borg can outrun a cyberman. Those guys were really slow.
Thanks to generation films for once again helping to keep the secrets of the Romulan Star Empire.
Why don't the Borg attack Earth with multiple cubes? Send 10 Cubes and probably no timetravel is needed.
About Borg battle tactics they just tend to see what their oponents throw at them and adapt the simplest way to ensure immediate victory over them. They also think that panicking the enemies make them easier to assimilate.
But Humans arre not the only species they underestimate. Species 8472 was their biggest mistake. As well as the Brunali and a few others (guys with transparent colored panels on the side of their helmet during the Raven wreckage episode if I recall) The Brunali (Icheb species) were the first that we know of who used viruses or genetic engineering to throw off the Borg, Icheb was even bio engineered specifically for this task. Making the Borg sever link with collective because of infected ships. Janeway just used this research in start of season 7 and pulled it further in End Game. As for Endgame, The Borg queen was just arrogant enough to dismiss what she already knew about Janeway trying to pull off a First Contact Temporal strategy...
As for First Contact, I think they just used the temporal jump as a back up strat, the main strat was the same as Best of Both Worlds. Send a huge ship and assimilate everything they find and they didn't anticipate Enterprise E to show up and beat them fair and square when Fed ships were being destroyed one by one just as during Wolf 359...
Was waiting for the *10 advantages* at the end…
Oh, it's not one of those?
Or are we getting a separate 10 advantages video?
The time travel thing in First Contact was a back up plan that the Borg had as they planned to assimilate Earth the normal way from the Cube. What they did not expect was Picard to overhear different parts of the cubes internal collective reporting that one of their shields was down and that the cube was thus vulnerable in that one small section and subsequently using that knowledge to blast the cube to bits. The Queen realizing their mistake launched the sphere with herself aboard and executed the time travel plan as she was certainly aware that the Sphere if it stayed would be quickly destroyed.
Normal people if a torpedo is beamed onto their ship: "Block the beam! We can't?! Beam it off to a random coordinate away from the ship!"
The Borg: "SECURITY BREACH. IDENTIFY: STARFLEET PHOTON TORPEDO-"
I always thought all those tubes and wires all over them sticking out would be a nightmare of getting caught on anything they pass too close by. Plus it looked fuckin' stupid imo.
I have always considered the most obvious flaw is that Borg use control panels. If a drone's brain is directly coupled to the cube's central computer, why should they ever have to look at a display (which is being generated from that computer), and then enter commands at a terminal (which is fed back to the same computer)? They are deliberately adding two levels of interface (three if you consider processing by the individual drone) that require mechanical information transfer (the slowest form of data transfer).
It would be much faster for a drone to process neural input directly from the computer (coming from the sensors), and neutrally transmit the processed data back. It would also reduce movement between different parts of the cube, making many of the passages inside unnecessary. The cubes could be built smaller for a given number of drones, or carry more drones, supplies, etc. for the same volume.
And what actually motivates the Borg? What does a single individual (or small group) really add to the Borg as a whole? They don't have emotions (as we could understand them), or any real interest in stories, literature, or art; at least so far as any cannon has shown. Once you assimilate your first million or so individuals (and related technology) from any given species, the law of diminishing returns should start to take effect. Continuing to assimilate a species makes no sense, as they are unlikely to have made any real advances beneficial to the Borg (other that perhaps defenses against assimilation) in less than a generation.
The Borg are an example of technology taking over and not having any creative thoughts.
Don't forget tin foil hats. The Borg's weakness is tin foil hats.
The Borg vision is far better than any other spices. They can see full 3d image of target.
Better than garlic? Black peppercorn? :)
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏼♂️
It seems the Borg haven't learned an important detail the other powers of the quadrant were very much aware of: attacking Earth directly was not a good idea. Being the capital of the Federation, the Sol system was one of the most heavily guarded systems in the galaxy. Some of you might say that isn't true but it is. Earth's defenses include:
- surveillance outposts throughout Federation space, which will alert Starfleet of an incoming threat many light years before they even reach Sector 001;
- large defense fleets in Earth orbit as well as the neighboring star systems;
- a space based defense perimeter in the orbit between Mars and Jupiter;
- orbital weapons platforms throughout the system (non-canon).
Because of this, we've never seen any zealous klingon or romulan captains deciding to attack Earth. They knew they stood no chance and such an attack is extremely unwise.
To me the biggest flaw is them getting some sort of queen.
The original idea was that there would be no central figure.
When the queen turned up I was terribly disappointed.
Holywood always need a central big baddy. So predictable, so common, so boring.
Voyager (which used to be the worst of the franchise) tuened the Borg from a credible threat into a threat equal to a wheelchair bound two year old having a temper tantrum :(.
Voyager really nutered the Borg.
I think there is some credence to the idea that one of the reasons the Borg don't notice individuals until they become a threat is kinda like how you don't notice individual pathogens that might enter you body. The Borg consciousness is operating on a much higher scale, The Collective, and so is unlikely to notice any one individual invader or even any single drone until something goes wrong. View the Borg like a single "super-organism" with individual Borg acting like individual cells in your body. And, yes, this could be considered a weakness of any collective being made up of formerly individual beings.
11: Their adoptive shields has a flaw that I think Pricard took advantage off as they only captain from Federation
I think the time travel thing was a back up plan after getting destroyed, which they never thought would happen. What I never understood was if humanity / the federation is such a prize, then why must one cube? We know from voyager they have heaps. So just send like 20 cubes, job done. 😂
If the star trek show had used any of robo cop, or terminator visual data. It would have been Patton infringement. As these are different intellectual properties.
So glad British Ben is still making videos.
This channel would suck if left to the likes of American Ben.